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Candy
10-09-2009, 08:00 PM
TT2
R1M1

Gol D. Roger vs. Brandon Heat


Location: Ichigo vs. Kenpachi Battle Area
Distance: Medium (No LOS)

Candy:
bleach fodders are crap
http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr193/deathnote81/bleach/bleach7.gif

Regenerating Hollow - 2
Edorado Leones - 10
Eilfort Grantz - 10
Ichigo Kurosaki (Shikai) - 12
Szayel Aporro (Unreleased) - 16
Luppi - 20
Aaroniero Arruruerie (weakness to sunlight disabled) - 6



Brandon Heat:
Ice Strikes Again
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/Kraylen725/gif.gif


Tōshirō Hitsugaya (42)
Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio (16)
Aaroniero Arruruerie (6)
Findore Carias (6)
Rukia Kuchiki (6)

Sajin
10-09-2009, 08:01 PM
I'm sorry to say that Candy but Hitsugaya takes this alone.

Oh sh- I think I just gave away Brandon's strat :-( Not that it was unexpected...

P.S. Also you forgot to add the rules.

Candy
10-09-2009, 08:08 PM
I'm sorry to say that Candy but Hitsugaya takes this alone.

Oh sh- I think I just gave away Brandon's strat :-( Not that it was unexpected...

P.S. Also you forgot to add the rules.

Screw the rules I have money :kaga


Also, mys strat is going to be better then my szayel strat :wink

Sajin
10-09-2009, 08:14 PM
I'm not sure what strat can you make using just a Mirage Tool, AA's abilities and tons of shikai captain level fighters, but you'd better not disappoint this time :sun

Franky
10-09-2009, 08:38 PM
Haven't you heard? Arroniero is the Bleach version of Wapol!

Otherwise known as, the Waponiero...
http://i35.tinypic.com/2na6ttl.gif

Franky
10-09-2009, 08:43 PM
It's not AA, it's Waponiero...

Candy
10-09-2009, 08:43 PM
Oh, I see what you meant now Candy.

AA solos > Szayel solos :kaga

He might, thats what im trying out in this match :wink

Franky
10-09-2009, 08:44 PM
Why discriminate?:pek

Just let Waponiero eat Szayel.:gar

nick1689
10-09-2009, 08:46 PM
For the love of god, take the spam elsewhere. There's a reason we have a convo thread

Candy
10-09-2009, 08:49 PM
For the love of god, take the spam elsewhere. There's a reason we have a convo thread

They started it,
i just sadi I was useing AA like wapol :)

Brandon Heat
10-09-2009, 11:11 PM
Checking in. I will post a strategy tomorrow morning.

Candy
10-09-2009, 11:38 PM
Knowledge

Tōshirō Hitsugaya - almost full
Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio - full
Aaroniero Arruruerie - full
Findore Carias - none
Rukia Kuchiki - full

Strategy

Phase 1

Strating moves for every one: AA releases, effilfort grants releases. szayel prepares his mirage tool. Ichigo will go into hollow form If he can. I dont think its been banned so if he can, disregard my whole strat and just let him solo, with back up from wapol :hurr.

AA: will eat these people in this order. Regenarating hollow, luppi, and edorado. this will take no time at all due to his huge mouth in his release state. Now AA has 8 tentacles that can blast fire out and can regenareate and break your sword if you touch them. Right after this happens he will use his tentacles to climb above the towers and spam fire blasts.

elifort: Will let szayel get on his back and szayel will direct him to he can do whatever he needs to do. he will do the same for ichigo.

szayel: will bring his fracction with him on his trip with his brother. He ichigo and elifort will eat them if they need to. Szayel will use the mirage tool in what ever way it needs to be used to make the biggest distraction possible to the other team, to delay/distract them. Preferably it will be yamamoto preforming bankai and attacking them with it, his bankai will not reach them but will only try to drive them away (note: this will be done above the towers.) After this has been done szayel will jump/fly all aroundthe place to avoid attacks (on his brother).

Ichigo: he will eb spamming GTs. remember that these are regular GTs and ichigo has massive, massive reiatsu rserves. but if he thinks he useing up to much reiatsu then he will just shoot them when he needs to.

Phaase 2

Theres no needs for a phase 2 since AA is invincible now. hes a 38 point character that can regenarate and can break out of any ice chamber with edwoardos heat thing. DADS was over hyped by me. I LOL at you if you think hes faster then bankai ichigo, he even said that bankai ichigo could have easily beaten him if he didnt have nel, and that ichigo was giving him a curtosy by showing his hollow form.

What ifs

Q: ice
A: fire

Q: DADS
A: The combined reiatsu of around 30000 hollows plus an 2 espada and a fracction member.

Q: everone else on his team
A: Beaten by AA

Q: Whats AA gonna do the whole time
A: honestly hes a juggernuat, theres litterally no way to beat him him. but If you need info you can just ask me.

I guees if anyone got close he could use luppis propeller ablity while spamming flame from the tentacles :hmm

VastoLorDae
10-10-2009, 12:57 AM
...Hitsugaya still solos

Candy
10-10-2009, 12:58 AM
...Hitsugaya still solos

Explain, im at a loss for words :wha

VastoLorDae
10-10-2009, 01:03 AM
Explain, im at a loss for words :wha

How do you try and distract Hitsu away from big ass AA? Hitsu freeze fucks him and the rest of your team will follow.

Candy
10-10-2009, 01:07 AM
How do you try and distract Hitsu away from big ass AA? Hitsu freeze fucks him and the rest of your team will follow.

2 things

1. AA can blast flames out my back due to his absorbtion ability. HE also has luppis reiatsu, luppi was able to break out of the seal that was put on him by hitsu,and he had concisnus while in there. I can blast some fire out of my back and then, look its melted and im out.

2. Ymamotos bankai is a big enough distracyion IMO

Franky
10-10-2009, 01:13 AM
How do you try and distract Hitsu away from big ass AA? Hitsu freeze fucks him and the rest of your team will follow.

If he's using Mirage Tool, he can easily make it to where Waponiero looks like a tower. Yea. lolz at Hitsugaya being dumb enough to attack a tower.

Plus, with Yamamoto, it'll look as if the flames coming from the building aren't from Waponiero, but are coming from Yamamoto's Bankai...

eunique
10-10-2009, 02:11 AM
If he's using Mirage Tool, he can easily make it to where Waponiero looks like a tower. Yea. lolz at Hitsugaya being dumb enough to attack a tower.

Plus, with Yamamoto, it'll look as if the flames coming from the building aren't from Waponiero, but are coming from Yamamoto's Bankai...

Is the mirage tool that strong enough to distract hitsugaya, and does szayel has information about yamamoto's bankai? from what i understand szayel has to have information about the person to perform the mirage tool right, or at least the ability? am i wrong?
may i have the hitsugaya gif? please?

VastoLorDae
10-10-2009, 02:17 AM
2 things

1. AA can blast flames out my back due to his absorbtion ability. HE also has luppis reiatsu, luppi was able to break out of the seal that was put on him by hitsu,and he had concisnus while in there. I can blast some fire out of my back and then, look its melted and im out.

2. Ymamotos bankai is a big enough distracyion IMO

If he's using Mirage Tool, he can easily make it to where Waponiero looks like a tower. Yea. lolz at Hitsugaya being dumb enough to attack a tower.

Plus, with Yamamoto, it'll look as if the flames coming from the building aren't from Waponiero, but are coming from Yamamoto's Bankai...

That stupid machine is not going to work on a high tier...at all. And you cannot convince me other wise. Yama releasing>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>feeling AA release.

Franky
10-10-2009, 02:23 AM
That stupid machine is not going to work on a high tier...at all. And you cannot convince me other wise. Yama releasing>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>feeling AA release.

Then don't vote here. If you truly believe that a mirage won't affect a high tier JUST because he's a high tier, then don't vote.

Kthxbye.

Candy
10-10-2009, 02:28 AM
Is the mirage tool that strong enough to distract hitsugaya, and does szayel has information about yamamoto's bankai? from what i understand szayel has to have information about the person to perform the mirage tool right, or at least the ability? am i wrong?
may i have the hitsugaya gif? please?

Well, I just ordered szayel to make a big distraction, preferably yamaoatos bankai. It could easily be something else though. yamamotos bankai was mostly a joke though

heck, I could just make a giant wall of flames and send them towrd the enemy

eunique
10-10-2009, 02:34 AM
Well, I just ordered szayel to make a big distraction, preferably yamaoatos bankai. It could easily be something else though. yamamotos bankai was mostly a joke though

heck, I could just make a giant wall of flames and send them towrd the enemy

would that hurt the enemy? what are the limitations of mirage tool? im sorry im not very familiar with his mirage tool -its from his unreleased state only right? and with prep?-

Candy
10-10-2009, 02:37 AM
would that hurt the enemy? what are the limitations of mirage tool? im sorry im not very familiar with his mirage tool -its from his unreleased state only right? and with prep?-

No prep, thankfully. Im not trying to hit them, the goal is to distract/Drive-away the enemy. The mirage tool does not hurt them

welcome to the BBD, hope you stick around :amuse

eunique
10-10-2009, 02:40 AM
No prep, thankfully. Im not trying to hit them, the goal is to distract/Drive-away the enemy. The mirage tool does not hurt them

welcome to the BBD, hope you stick around :amuse

thnx
so basically the limitation is that it doesn't hurt, does this mirage tool has reiatsu based attacks or non? where can i find the ability directory for mirage tool? im curious of how it works and if ishida had fallen for that trick as well

Candy
10-10-2009, 02:50 AM
thnx
so basically the limitation is that it doesn't hurt, does this mirage tool has reiatsu based attacks or non? where can i find the ability directory for mirage tool? im curious of how it works and if ishida had fallen for that trick as well

I would say non, just becuase its more of a machine. Nel fell for it, however that does say some stuff.

just go to szayels profile and click on mirage tool. the scan isnt very clear though.

VastoLorDae
10-10-2009, 02:56 AM
Then don't vote here. If you truly believe that a mirage won't affect a high tier JUST because he's a high tier, then don't vote.

Kthxbye.

No thats not going to help candy at all. Telling me not to vote here is not a good argument. In fact it tells me that since you know other way of convincing instead of saying that then I am right in my assumption. I will vote and so far I am leaning towards BH because of this. No not because of this little attitude of yours but because your "argument" is not good.

eunique
10-10-2009, 02:57 AM
yeh i did, but unfortunately making fire just using mirage tool doesn't seem to be possible, and hitsugaya would notice if the fire doesnt emit heat -hitsu is good with temperature, so that part of your strat wont work- 2nd nel was in a state of agitation at that time so she wasnt much aware of her surrounding, but mahhh, pretty good strat, ill wait for BH to have his, if its better or what

Candy
10-10-2009, 03:03 AM
No thats not going to help candy at all. Telling me not to vote here is not a good argument. In fact it tells me that since you know other way of convincing instead of saying that then I am right in my assumption. I will vote and so far I am leaning towards BH because of this. No not because of this little attitude of yours but because your "argument" is not good.

The mirage tool isnt even a big part of my strat, so whatever


yeh i did, but unfortunately making fire just using mirage tool doesn't seem to be possible, and hitsugaya would notice if the fire doesnt emit heat -hitsu is good with temperature, so that part of your strat wont work- 2nd nel was in a state of agitation at that time so she wasnt much aware of her surrounding, but mahhh, pretty good strat, ill wait for BH to have his, if its better or what

Same as above. I really dont think BH can conjure up anything that can beat an AA that can eneit heat to melt any ice he is captured in. And he has 8 fire blasters to boot.

Franky
10-10-2009, 03:23 AM
No thats not going to help candy at all. Telling me not to vote here is not a good argument. In fact it tells me that since you know other way of convincing instead of saying that then I am right in my assumption. I will vote and so far I am leaning towards BH because of this. No not because of this little attitude of yours but because your "argument" is not good.

No, I'm just avoiding the usual "Franky argues for Candy for 10 pages" situation again.

But, if you want to talk shit, than consider this: Toshiro hasn't shown a single reason why he would be unaffected by the Mirage Tool. In fact, I do believe Nel and Toshiro are in the same tier now, so, by your logic, since Nel was affected, then Toshiro will be affected, too.

The Mirage Tool creates an illusion that you can't differ from reality unless you have knowledge on the tool, and not even Nel, who had the tool used on her, ever figured it out. So, seeing as Toshiro has absolutely no knowledge, and niether does the rest of BH's team, it's impossible to prove that Toshiro can break his way out of the Mirage Tool when you yourself have no basis to your arguement.

Therefore, your "he's a high tier" arguement is void.

Just because he costs a lot of points doesn't mean he can avoid an illusion. So, he sees something, he does not know about the Mirage Tool. So, by process of elimination and common sense, he is going to believe that what he is seeing is real, therefore straying from his original strategy and giving Candy the ideal chance he needs to stab Toshiro through the head.

It's as simple as that. He hasn't shown to be able to get out of the Illusion, and he has no knowledge that would lead him to believe that it is an Illusion, therefore, he is going to believe that the Illusion is real.
So, care to call my arguements shit again?

VastoLorDae
10-10-2009, 04:09 AM
No, I'm just avoiding the usual "Franky argues for Candy for 10 pages" situation again.

But, if you want to talk shit, than consider this: Toshiro hasn't shown a single reason why he would be unaffected by the Mirage Tool. In fact, I do believe Nel and Toshiro are in the same tier now, so, by your logic, since Nel was affected, then Toshiro will be affected, too.

The Mirage Tool creates an illusion that you can't differ from reality unless you have knowledge on the tool, and not even Nel, who had the tool used on her, ever figured it out. So, seeing as Toshiro has absolutely no knowledge, and niether does the rest of BH's team, it's impossible to prove that Toshiro can break his way out of the Mirage Tool when you yourself have no basis to your arguement.

Therefore, your "he's a high tier" arguement is void.

Just because he costs a lot of points doesn't mean he can avoid an illusion. So, he sees something, he does not know about the Mirage Tool. So, by process of elimination and common sense, he is going to believe that what he is seeing is real, therefore straying from his original strategy and giving Candy the ideal chance he needs to stab Toshiro through the head.

It's as simple as that. He hasn't shown to be able to get out of the Illusion, and he has no knowledge that would lead him to believe that it is an Illusion, therefore, he is going to believe that the Illusion is real.
So, care to call my arguements shit again?

yes. :hmm

You give a poor example. When Nel met met up with Noitora and fell for that mirage trick was she in a actual battle ready state or flustered, blinded by rage? I think it was the later. And it was set up way before she got there. You try and convince me AA releasing and giving away his location is going to be long enough to actually even set it up. If at all.

And oh hey, Hitsu mostly attacks long range and here is the kicker, has other pairs of eyes so none of candy's fodder could even get the drop on him. You want me to believe that a high tier who comes into the illusion battle ready will be "distracted" for even a second or 2? Besides those points he is not going to feel an reitsu/heat coming from whatever he has projected anyway.

Franky
10-10-2009, 04:19 AM
Fine... I plan not to rage into Candy's matches... I'd love to continue arguing this, but I'll let Candy take it over...

Besides, I have discovered another interesting development in Bleach that far supasses this arguement...

VastoLorDae
10-10-2009, 04:23 AM
Your right...I should go. I mean I am not taking part in a match and am rarely here to begin with when I am not in one. And still smarting from that lost to sajin, so very much still a sore looser :hurr

Franky
10-10-2009, 04:29 AM
Mocking me because I found something more interesting, hmm?

Well, you are the only person online right now... care to discuss what I've found with me? Not here, of course, prob'ly in PM's...:hmm

Sajin
10-10-2009, 07:21 AM
Candy, if AA eats Luppi it doesn't mean he's a juggernaut.
IIRC hollows stop evolving when they get arrancarized. AA's ability lets him absorb others'abilities, that's true, but his reiatsu should stay (roughly) the same. That said, if he devoured Nnoitra, he would gain his special abilities like extra arms but he still wouldnt be above Grimmjow level. He could've got a boost but I wouldnt count on it on being that large.
That's like saying that eating Neliel and Luppi makes AA Shunsui level because they would have like 1.7x the level of reiatsu of an average captain.

migukuni
10-10-2009, 07:49 AM
i dont think luppy would be eaten by AA that easily, Luppi would already know his abilities from the start seeing that the enemy also has an AA

Sajin
10-10-2009, 07:52 AM
i dont think luppy would be eaten by AA that easily, Luppi would already know his abilities from the start seeing that the enemy also has an AA

They are on the same team... Candy's AA eats Candy's Luppi.

nick1689
10-10-2009, 07:52 AM
AA cant kill his teammates, they wouldnt let him do it IC

migukuni
10-10-2009, 08:07 AM
but this isnt IC right? although i dont think AA would have reiatsu power-up by eating other, just the abilities from what i remember.

Candy
10-10-2009, 12:02 PM
Candy, if AA eats Luppi it doesn't mean he's a juggernaut.
IIRC hollows stop evolving when they get arrancarized. AA's ability lets him absorb others'abilities, that's true, but his reiatsu should stay (roughly) the same. That said, if he devoured Nnoitra, he would gain his special abilities like extra arms but he still wouldnt be above Grimmjow level. He could've got a boost but I wouldnt count on it on being that large.
That's like saying that eating Neliel and Luppi makes AA Shunsui level because they would have like 1.7x the level of reiatsu of an average captain.

He said that he devors the reiatsu of all the hollows he eats, so he should be gaining quite a decent amount of reiatsu :hmm hat is his ability afterall

AA cant kill his teammates, they wouldnt let him do it IC

Yea but they arent IC, they are going by my strat. By that logic wapol could never be used in the OPBD.

Sajin
10-10-2009, 12:07 PM
He said that he devors the reiatsu of all the hollows he eats, so he should be gaining quite a decent amount of reiatsu :hmm hat is his ability afterall


Could you please provide a scan of that?

Candy
10-10-2009, 12:14 PM
Could you please provide a scan of that?

will do :wink


scan of how big the releases mouth is (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/267/12-13/)

heres the reiatsu absobing scan

Sajin
10-10-2009, 12:19 PM
will do :wink


scan of how big the releases mouth is (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/267/12-13/)

heres the reiatsu absobing scan

But the second scan only said "forms and powers", no? :huh

Anyway will look again when I come back.

Candy
10-10-2009, 12:23 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/267/09/

Bottom left panel, at the very bottom of the speaking thing, he says reiasu

Sajin
10-10-2009, 03:42 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/267/09/

Bottom left panel, at the very bottom of the speaking thing, he says reiasu

Went to bleachexile manga reader to confirm that and it does indeed say "all reiatsu" o.o
Dammit AA should be banned for something, I mean you can do a strat like this:

1. AA releases
2. AA eats Luppi, regen hollow and Nnoitra
3. ???
4. PROFIT

And, well, he's unstoppable because he will have like 1.7 reiatsu of an average captain plus his own... hell, that's not even Shunsui level, that's outright Aizen level reiatsu.

Cthulhu-versailles
10-10-2009, 05:35 PM
Went to bleachexile manga reader to confirm that and it does indeed say "all reiatsu" o.o
Dammit AA should be banned for something, I mean you can do a strat like this:

1. AA releases
2. AA eats Luppi, regen hollow and Nnoitra
3. ???
4. PROFIT

And, well, he's unstoppable because he will have like 1.7 reiatsu of an average captain plus his own... hell, that's not even Shunsui level, that's outright Aizen level reiatsu.

AA should not be banned.

The highest ranked 'hollow' are Grim and Noi and they cost 36 points. Now, if AA absorb them his own reiatsu/abilities give very little to the new form. Specifically, the new form would only have the advantage of being able to use shitty Kaien attacks along with the beings he abosrbed and higher reiatsu. More to the point, I don't recall there being a absoulute casual relationship between Higher reiatsu and speed/durability. Grim, Hitsu, Zommari, and basically all the Espada disproved that. So assuming that holds, AA's new form wouldbn't get a significant speed increase from just having higher reiatsu. Note, it would be faster, but not insanely faster then the being he absorbed. Honestly, AA is VC level. Some proof that AA wouldn't suddenly became superfast=/ he absorbed like 33,000 thousand hollows and was barely faster then Rukia. :rotfl --

Oh, alos, lol @him hitting Aizen level. Aizen reiatsu crushed Grimjaw. AA could absorb Grim and Noi and still get oneshotted by Aizen without effort.

-As to the fight, I think Candy's strat was pretty epic. REGENERATING HOLLOW SHOWED ITS AWESOME:Thumbs That said, the being is not unstoppable. DOn't forget what Ryuuken said about Regenerating Hollow!!! Hitsu, with the right strat, could do just that...

Sajin
10-10-2009, 05:45 PM
AA should not be banned.

The highest ranked 'hollow' are Grim and Noi and they cost 36 points. Now, if AA absorb them his own reiatsu/abilities give very little to the new form. Specifically, the new form would only have the advantage of being able to use shitty Kaien attacks along with the beings he abosrbed and higher reiatsu. More to the point, I don't recall there being a absoulute casual relationship between Higher reiatsu and speed/durability. Grim, Hitsu, Zommari, and basically all the Espada disproved that. So assuming that holds, AA's new form wouldbn't get a significant speed increase from just having higher reiatsu. Note, it would be faster, but not insanely faster then the being he absorbed. Honestly, AA is VC level. Some proof that AA wouldn't suddenly became superfast=/ he absorbed like 33,000 thousand hollows and was barely faster then Rukia. :rotfl --

Oh, alos, lol @him hitting Aizen level. Aizen reiatsu crushed Grimjaw. AA could absorb Grim and Noi and still get oneshotted by Aizen without effort.

-As to the fight, I think Candy's strat was pretty epic. REGENERATING HOLLOW SHOWED ITS AWESOME:Thumbs That said, the being is not unstoppable. DOn't forget what Ryuuken said about Regenerating Hollow!!! Hitsu, with the right strat, could do just that...

Aizen is said to have twice the amount of reiatsu that of an average captain.
Grimmjow and Nnoi should have average captain level reiatsu as well. Therefore, their combined reiatsu + AA's = Aizen's.

Cthulhu-versailles
10-10-2009, 05:58 PM
Aizen is said to have twice the amount of reiatsu that of an average captain.
Grimmjow and Nnoi should have average captain level reiatsu as well. Therefore, their combined reiatsu + AA's = Aizen's.

The bird thingy soul cutter i that was going to execute Rukia was said to have the power of millions of Zapakto and yet Ichigo blocked it. Therefore, Ichigo's zapakato can block any attack in the manga. :uwah :pek :notrust Yeah, I think I'll just go by the fact Aizen Reiatsu crushed Grimjaw as the indication of the gap in power. Specifically, Aizen's reiatsu crush was as bad or worse then the one Kenpachi did to Hanatoro/Ganju. Kenpachi is way more then 2x Hanatoro or Ganju...

Candy
10-10-2009, 06:01 PM
Went to bleachexile manga reader to confirm that and it does indeed say "all reiatsu" o.o
Dammit AA should be banned for something, I mean you can do a strat like this:

1. AA releases
2. AA eats Luppi, regen hollow and Nnoitra
3. ???
4. PROFIT

And, well, he's unstoppable because he will have like 1.7 reiatsu of an average captain plus his own... hell, that's not even Shunsui level, that's outright Aizen level reiatsu.

lolz I think it was a good idea to trial AA :hurr


Did I mention that AA regenarates when he is hit becuase of the regen hollow?


Also he cant get captured by hitsu becuase of the volocano arrancar

BlackSmoke
10-10-2009, 06:08 PM
Since when did we have a IC rule?

OH~, that's why we can't clone our own teammates with ink right???

So if AA ate a unreleased Syazel...he would have Syazel inking abilities no?

Nice strategy....The Edorado dude gives him steam abilities...so he could just melt the ice with high temperature steam.

Candy
10-10-2009, 06:10 PM
Since when did we have a IC rule?

OH~, that's why we can't clone our own teammates with ink right???

So if AA ate a unreleased Syazel...he would have Syazel inking abilities no?

nah, szayel unrelesed eaten by AA could not spew ink to to being restricted to base abilities.

Franky
10-10-2009, 06:15 PM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:ryoma

AA GAINS REITSU TOO?!:gar

CANDY. I WANT MY STRAT BACK. PAY UP, I LET YOU USE THIS, NOW I WANT IT BACK. I GAVE YOU THE IDEA WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HAX STRATEGIES, NO GIVE BACK MY WAPONIERO!!!!!:gar

Tell them Candy, reveal my genius that lies behind this strategy. You just took my idea and chose hollows to eat.:hurr

Candy
10-10-2009, 06:17 PM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AA GAINS REITSU TOO?!:gar

CANDY. I WANT MY STRAT BACK. PAY UP, I LET YOU USE THIS, BOW I WANT IT BACK. I GAVE YOU THE IDEA WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HAX STRATEGIES, NO GIVE BACK MY WAPONIERO!!!!!:gar

screw you, you came up with useing AA as wapol. I came up with the scans and supa hax strat :amuse


ITs one of his abilites, so im not really stealing anything from you. You just refreashed the ability into my mind :wink

Sajin
10-10-2009, 06:18 PM
The bird thingy soul cutter i that was going to execute Rukia was said to have the power of millions of Zapakto and yet Ichigo blocked it. Therefore, Ichigo's zapakato can block any attack in the manga. :uwah :pek :notrust Yeah, I think I'll just go by the fact Aizen Reiatsu crushed Grimjaw as the indication of the gap in power. Specifically, Aizen's reiatsu crush was as bad or worse then the one Kenpachi did to Hanatoro/Ganju. Kenpachi is way more then 2x Hanatoro or Ganju...


These were probably very shitty soul cutters :zaru Besides it was only one strike when the bird didnt even see Ichigo.
And Aizen said that himself. 2x is 2x.

Franky
10-10-2009, 06:19 PM
screw you, you came up with useing AA as wapol. I came up with the scans and supa hax strat :amuse


ITs one of his abilites, so im not really stealing anything from you. You just refreashed the ability into my mind :wink

Oh? Providing a scan that supports MY ideas does not make the idea yours, Candy~

The only thing you did was choose which hollows to eat~

THIS IS THE COMBINED RESULTS OF MY GENIUS AND YOUR CREATIVITY!:gar

Candy
10-10-2009, 06:23 PM
Oh? Providing a scan that supports MY ideas does not make the idea yours, Candy~

The only thing you did was choose which hollows to eat~

THIS IS THE COMBINED RESULTS OF MY GENIUS AND YOUR CREATIVITY!:gar

yes, you came up with the idea of eaing things, wait, that was kubo. Honestly though its a stated ability, so its not really copying.

If you made againt army of mr.3 wax soljers and I did the exact same thing then it would be copying.

And yes this is mostlt thanks to you for reminding me of his ability :gar

MY creatility is to awesome for words :quite

Cthulhu-versailles
10-10-2009, 06:24 PM
These were probably very shitty soul cutters :zaru Besides it was only one strike when the bird didnt even see Ichigo.
And Aizen said that himself. 2x is 2x.

How shitty do you think 1million soul cutter would have to be individually to be to fail against SS Ichigo?. Seriously, they'd have to be weaker then real world human children. Soulcutters of out of the womb level:gun :zaru
Aizen was lying too the audience. I don't trust anyone with glasses Besides, lets not forget the clasis" who said the Espada only go from 1-10? :lolkubo

Sajin
10-10-2009, 06:27 PM
How shitty do you think 1million soul cutter would have to be individually to be to fail against SS Ichigo?. Seriously, they'd have to be weaker then real world human children. Soulcutters of out of the womb level:gun :zaru
Aizen was lying too the audience. I don't trust anyone with glasses Besides, lets not forget the clasis" who said the Espada only go from 1-10? :lolkubo

And how does Ulq breathe with a hole in his neck? :zaru
Bleach is inconsistent but Aizen's reiatsu really is only 2x times more than an average captain's. AA really is a juggernaut here.

Candy
10-10-2009, 06:27 PM
How shitty do you think 1million soul cutter would have to be individually to be to fail against SS Ichigo?. Seriously, they'd have to be weaker then real world human children. Soulcutters of out of the womb level:gun :zaru
Aizen was lying too the audience. I don't trust anyone with glasses Besides, lets not forget the clasis" who said the Espada only go from 1-10? :lolkubo

I have to agree you cant trust kubo for manga feats for people by just saying things :capc

But AA will have a super high reiatsu level anyway

Franky
10-10-2009, 06:28 PM
yes, you came up with the idea of eaing things, wait, that was kubo. Honestly though its a stated ability, so its not really copying.

If you made againt army of mr.3 wax soljers and I did the exact same thing then it would be copying.

And yes this is mostlt thanks to you for reminding me of his ability :gar

MY creatility is to awesome for words :quite

You're missing the point~

I'm saying we both had a part in this and I'm complimenting us both~

Let's just cut the Davey Back shit and have a Tag-Team Tournament:hurr

Candy
10-10-2009, 06:30 PM
You're missing the point~

I'm saying we both had a part in this and I'm complimenting us both~

Let's just cut the Davey Back shit and have a Tag-Team Tournament:hurr

agreeing with allof that :gar

btw

OBAMA GOT THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE :wth

:obama

Franky
10-10-2009, 06:34 PM
WTF? WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN?!:wth

Candy, I think we broke Arraniero. His glass head was to fragile.
:obama

Candy
10-10-2009, 06:36 PM
WTF? WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN?!:wth

Candy, I think we broke Arraniero. His glass head was to fragile.
:obama

I was on CNN and saw it :wth


And yes, we can condiere AA banned :ban

Franky
10-10-2009, 06:38 PM
Arraniero is outta here, twas good working with you:thumbs

Cthulhu-versailles
10-10-2009, 06:43 PM
DON'T FORGET NONE OF THIS WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT REGENERATING HOLLOW.
I think this match proves how fucking epic win it is.:gar

Candy
10-10-2009, 06:47 PM
DON'T FORGET NONE OF THIS WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT REGENERATING HOLLOW.
I think this match proves how fucking epic win it is.:gar

Agreed :thumbs

Plus reps my freind :LOS

Sajin
10-10-2009, 06:51 PM
STOP SPAMMING. :pek

Brandon can post an even better strat, who knows. :LOS

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 06:55 PM
How are we spamming so much with only one strategy. :facepalm

Going out in a bit, but will be posting strategy when I get back. It's pretty predictable what I will be doing.

Candy
10-10-2009, 06:57 PM
How are we spamming so much with only one strategy. :facepalm

Going out in a bit, but will be posting strategy when I get back. It's pretty predictable what I will be doing.

remember my szayel strat? this one is even better :gar

BlackSmoke
10-10-2009, 06:57 PM
Brandon you might as well read Candy's strategy :lmao
He gave it away talking with Franky really >.>

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 07:02 PM
I was skimming and I read AA should be banned. I wonder why should he? :LOS

It's a good thing he is not allowed to eat his own team mates. Honestly, why else would he be at 6 points. :zaru

TheOftViewer
10-10-2009, 07:08 PM
Hm, somehow in my procrastinative state I've made my way into this match. Regarding the issue at hand...

Firstly, it says dead hollows, so you'll need team-killing or suicide. Not sure if you have a rule against that like in the Colosseum, but it'll probably be somewhat problematic.

He mentions hollows, not arrancar, so it's entirely possible that he cannot do it to the half-shinigami arrancar.

There is no reason to think the absorption of the ability is quick. It could take days, or just enough time for AA to be frozen.

He's still about the most effing immobile thing ever.

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 07:10 PM
I lied, I can post my simple strategy now.

Knowledge
Regenerating Hollow: None
Edorado Leones: None
Eilfort Grantz: None
Ichigo Kurosaki (Shikai): Full
Szayel Aporro (Unreleased):None, but we know he is an Espada
Luppi: Full
Aaroniero Arruruerie: Full

Preparation
We should know Szayel is a scientist because it should be common knowledge for Espada. We all know we can sense spiritual pressure.

Strategy
Phase 1
Rukia Kuchiki
Rukia activates her shikai and uses Hakuren towards the direction of the enemy. She will continue to fire off Hakuren to cover the whole field with ice.

Findore Carias
Findore releases and fire off pressurized water blast towards the buildings. He will clear the line of sight for my team. Then he will fire water towards DADS.

Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio
Dordonii will release and use Giralda to control the water being released by Findore. Dordonii will send the water cyclones towards the enemy.

Aaroniero Arruruerie
Aaroniero will transform into Kaien Shiba and activate his shikai. He will create a water source for Hitsugaya.

Tōshirō Hitsugaya
Hitsugaya will activate his bankai and take flight. He will control all the ice and water around him for his attacks. First he will fire off Guncho Tsurara towards the enemy. He will then launch multiple ice dragons towards the enemy.

Phase 2
Note: My team will move in closer towards the enemy before entering Phase 2. We will get close enough to continue our onslaught but won't get too close to the enemy to be in their range of attack.

Rukia Kuchiki
Rukia use Tsukishiro to create ice pillars. These pillars will be used to allow my team to gain a height advantage. From the ice pillars, Rukia will continue her onslaught of Hakuren.

Findore Carias and Dordonii Alessandro Del Socacchio
Both will continue their previous actions but on top of the ice pillars. A giant wind water tornado will be sent towards the enemy and will be used for Hitsugaya's attacks.

Aaroniero Arruruerie
He will advance on the enemy and use his water based attacks on the enemy.

Tōshirō Hitsugaya
Hitsugaya will take all the ice and water in the area and use Sennen Hyourou at the enemy. If any enemies attempt to escape the prison, Hitsugaya will fire off Guncho Tsurara towards the enemy. If the enemy attempts to blitz during this phase, Hitsugaya will continue to use his dragons to keep him at range.

Phase 3
If any enemy is still alive, my team will act IC.

What Ifs
Will be handled in rebuttals.

Franky
10-10-2009, 07:18 PM
I was skimming and I read AA should be banned. I wonder why should he? :LOS

It's a good thing he is not allowed to eat his own team mates. Honestly, why else would he be at 6 points. :zaru
That can't possibly be true.

BlackSmoke
10-10-2009, 07:20 PM
you guys should leave on weakness to sunlight llololol

Vote Candy

If Syazel was allowed to use sacrifices of teammates in T1, then AA can eat his teammates. AA then proceeds to rape, once he becomes a massive fire tentacle, regenerative beast.

Tov saying Arrancars are not hollow...come on now, that's stretching it.

Franky
10-10-2009, 07:21 PM
Not really, if he can't eat his own teammates, then his only strength is powering up Toshitro Shitsugaya:-(

Candy
10-10-2009, 07:22 PM
lols I win :LOS

There is no rule that AA cant eat his team mates :pek where did you get that from BH?

AA solos, nothing can beat, seriosly. He has heat based defence and attacks theres no way to beat him with your ice team

BlackSmoke
10-10-2009, 07:25 PM
There is a IC rule in the Konoha Colosseum, I do not see it in our rules :U

Sajin
10-10-2009, 07:27 PM
There is a IC rule in the Konoha Colosseum, I do not see it in our rules :U

This.

Vote Candy because of a techinicality :zaru Thank God it didn't happen during the real thing, that'd be epic fail.

Candy
10-10-2009, 07:28 PM
There is a IC rule in the Konoha Colosseum, I do not see it in our rules :U

Theres an IC rule int the OPBD, and wapol is able to eat people there :zaru

Candy
10-10-2009, 07:28 PM
This.

Vote Candy because of a techinicality :zaru Thank God it didn't happen during the real thing, that'd be epic fail.

You guys are lucky I trailed him :hurr

BlackSmoke
10-10-2009, 07:32 PM
I saw this happening, technically you would have Released abilities from restricted characters. Cuz your eating all their abilities, just because there restricted doesn't mean they don't have the ability in their body, just that they aren't allowed to do it >.>

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 07:32 PM
Wapol eat's people but doesn't kill them. :facepalm

Your killing your team mates. Since when have we allowed that?

Candy
10-10-2009, 07:33 PM
Wapol eat's people but doesn't kill them. :facepalm

Your killing your team mates. Since when have we allowed that?

Whats wrong with killing your own team mates?

Sajin
10-10-2009, 07:34 PM
Wapol eat's people but doesn't kill them. :facepalm

Your killing your team mates. Since when have we allowed that?

I'd assume it's allowed unless it's directly prohibited in the rules. We need to change them.

Candy
10-10-2009, 07:37 PM
I'd assume it's allowed unless it's directly prohibited in the rules. We need to change them.

If I need to kill my team mates to make my strat ork then I shud be able kill my team.

nick1689
10-10-2009, 08:13 PM
You guys a noobs

He said that he devors the reiatsu of all the hollows he eats, so he should be gaining quite a decent amount of reiatsu :hmm hat is his ability afterall



Yea but they arent IC, they are going by my strat. By that logic wapol could never be used in the OPBD.

Theres an IC rule int the OPBD, and wapol is able to eat people there :zaru

AA kills people when he absorbs them, Wapol dosnt - that's a big difference

AA cannot kill his teammates as they wouldnt allow it IC, that has always been a rule, in every BD

The IC rules states (yes, we do have one, I dont know why people are saying we dont): "Characters will do their best to follow a strategy." They will not kills their teammates, as they woudnt do this IC. Plus there's the fact that Luppi and Edorad would just overpower AA if he tried to absorb them

BlackSmoke
10-10-2009, 08:17 PM
T1 Syazel was using teammates for sacrifices.

T1 a Yammy punched right through Allon and was firing Balla while running around using Allon as a shield.

My Trial 24 pt match...I shot a steel feather through Ichigo's chest turning him into a berzerk shikai vizard >.>

No one said anything about the IC rule then.

Sajin
10-10-2009, 08:17 PM
But they do their best to follow it. I don't see why they wouldnt sacrifice their lives, the same exact rules state that they have no fear.

Candy
10-10-2009, 08:20 PM
Theres no reason why I shouldnt be able to kill my own team-mates

nick1689
10-10-2009, 08:22 PM
Granted, it's a contested rule in every BD. Some people say that people like Orochimaru, for example, would gladly kill their teammates as he's just a sadistc bastard, it would be IC for him.

However Ive always believed that you cannot kill or sacrifice your teammates. These tourneys are supposed to represent how the fights happen in the manga, just with a strat made by the user, in a randomised location. Teams woud not kill or sacrifice their teammates in the manga, so it does not happen here either.

edit: candy you have experience in these tourneys, in more than 1 BD, you should know about this rule

BlackSmoke
10-10-2009, 08:24 PM
LOL Nick, sadistic bastard XD
yeah I see your point, and concur.

but let's just ignore this so called "IC rule" for this match.

lol why didn't AA just eat Aizen in the manga,
Final boss would be a black haired obese Ichigo look alike :awesome

Candy
10-10-2009, 08:27 PM
Granted, it's a contested rule in every BD. Some people say that people like Orochimaru, for example, would gladly kill their teammates as he's just a sadistc bastard, it would be IC for him.

However Ive always believed that you cannot kill or sacrifice your teammates. These tourneys are supposed to represent how the fights happen in the manga, just with a strat made by the user, in a randomised location. Teams woud not kill or sacrifice their teammates in the manga, so it does not happen here either.

edit: candy you have experience in these tourneys, in more than 1 BD, you should know about this rule

I thought these tournaments for made so we could use our stratgetic abiliteis with manga verses to win tournaments. not to represetn battles that are from mangas :huh or something like that, I think I worded it wrong

Yea I have experince in all 3, ive had more exp in the KC and BBD then you in fact. but Ive always thought that the IC rule was pointless

BlackSmoke
10-10-2009, 08:31 PM
I thought of this ice team one time except without dads :O
I like it :sag Good elemental synergy, has potential to win a tourney.

nick1689
10-10-2009, 08:31 PM
I thought these tournaments for made so we could use our stratgetic abiliteis with manga verses to win tournaments. not to represetn battles that are from mangas :huh or something like that, I think I worded it wrong

You pretty much said what I did :hurr. Using strats to see how battles would go down in the manga

Yea I have experince in all 3, ive had more exp in the KC and BBD then you in fact. but Ive always thought that the IC rule was pointless

The IC rule is one of the pillars in all BDs, we cant remove it

Candy
10-10-2009, 08:34 PM
The IC rule is one of the pillars in all BDs, we cant remove it

CHANGE, YES WE CAN
:obama

You see what im saying? :hurr



But really, shouldnt there be a ruleing so that AA can eat his team? If he cant do that, then he just plain sucks.

We can keep the IC rule, and I agree thats its very important

BlackSmoke
10-10-2009, 08:35 PM
Well possible uses for him are this ......( Strategy that is legit and would win a tourney using AA and _______________)

bwahahhaa

Candy
10-10-2009, 08:37 PM
Well possible uses for him are this ......( Strategy that is legit and would win a tourney using AA and _______________)

bwahahhaa

grimm and regen hollow and random arrancars jump into AA. GG

nick1689
10-10-2009, 08:40 PM
But really, shouldnt there be a ruleing so that AA can eat his team? If he cant do that, then he just plain sucks.

We can keep the IC rule, and I agree thats its very important

AA always sucked. Plus its not an IC action for AA to eat his teammates, or for his teammates to let him eat them

Sajin
10-10-2009, 08:45 PM
AA always sucked. Plus its not an IC action for AA to eat his teammates, or for his teammates to let him eat them

So if I tell Komamura to sneak on the enemy or tell Grimmjow to run away they wouldn't do that?

Candy
10-10-2009, 08:47 PM
AA always sucked. Plus its not an IC action for AA to eat his teammates, or for his teammates to let him eat them

"Characters will follow the strategy to the best of their abilites"

"Characters will not follow their personalites, ex. sanji will kick and kill women"

nick1689
10-10-2009, 09:02 PM
So if I tell Komamura to sneak on the enemy or tell Grimmjow to run away they wouldn't do that?

Youre making this more difficult than it is :pek

The main reason why AA cant eat his teammates is because they just wouldnt allow themselves to be killed

Candy
10-10-2009, 09:04 PM
AA always sucked. Plus its not an IC action for AA to eat his teammates, or for his teammates to let him eat them

Youre making this more difficult than it is :pek

The main reason why AA cant eat his teammates is because they just wouldnt allow themselves to be killed

Acording to the rule, "PandD would gladly attack nel" so why wouldnt luppi gladly go into AAs mouth?

They do follow my strat to the best of thier abilites

nick1689
10-10-2009, 09:07 PM
Because Luppi would not sacrifice himself IC, to the best of his abilities, he would still not commit suicide

Candy
10-10-2009, 09:09 PM
Because Luppi would not sacrifice himself IC, to the best of his abilities, he would still not commit suicide

AA could easily lie to him and say "it just absords you, ill let you back out after the battle"

useing this I can eat my team, case closed

Also hollows have no personality :P

nick1689
10-10-2009, 09:15 PM
That's an empty argument that all the people who complain about this rule bring up

Candy
10-10-2009, 09:17 PM
That's an empty argument that all the people who complain about this rule bring up

SO if I tell my guys that they will live, andthey dont know of my ability, they will refuse my demands?

The IC rule we have now is fine. Just leave out the killing your own team mates, thats the only one I have issues with

I had sakura and hinata commit suicide in a practice match in the KC, it was fun

nick1689
10-10-2009, 09:25 PM
The IC rule has always incorporated killing teammates and suicide. Always, in all BDs

Candy
10-10-2009, 09:28 PM
The IC rule has always incorporated killing teammates and suicide. Always, in all BDs

ITs incorpatrated without reason. you keep saying its there as rule just becuase its always been there. :oh

I think its pointless ( the killing part, everything else is fine.)

The IC rule here pretty much sayd, no one is IC and will do whatever you tell them

Franky
10-10-2009, 09:52 PM
Nick, IC is in character, stop bringing up the IC rule. The IC rule is, by my interpretation that "If a character is left without orders, they will attack as they woulld in the manga but without PIS/CIS, as in things like Sanji kicking a girl"

The "no killing of your own team" is, frankly, very stupid. First off, why would you kill your team for a reason that isn't stragetically designed to let you win? If AA's ability dictates that he needs to eat Hollows, and your strat is to eat the hollows who follow your orders, then why wouldn't they? They ARE NOT IC, and therefore will NOT act as they do in manga. They CAN AND WILL gladly jump into AA's mouth if you tell them to.

Vote Candy

If you want to stop AA, don't ban his one creditable ability, just put a cap on how much Reitsu he can gain. As in, don't let him go higher than like, the higher tiers. Why the higher tiers? Because, you have to pay points to make AA stronger, making him overall worth the high tier.

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 10:27 PM
You can't eat your own team mates. Why are we even argueing this. Why would we allow AA for 6 points and still allow him that ability if he was able to eat his team members. We don't know how long it takes for AA to consume someone and when he actually gains the ability. It could take days and there is no manga proof against that.

Candy
10-10-2009, 10:32 PM
You can't eat your own team mates. Why are we even argueing this. Why would we allow AA for 6 points and still allow him that ability if he was able to eat his team members. We don't know how long it takes for AA to consume someone and when he actually gains the ability. It could take days and there is no manga proof against that.

There hasnt been a rule for it yet

And AA is pretty mcuh 6 points to add your characters together

Franky
10-10-2009, 10:32 PM
You can't eat your own team mates. Why are we even argueing this. Why would we allow AA for 6 points and still allow him that ability if he was able to eat his team members. We don't know how long it takes for AA to consume someone and when he actually gains the ability. It could take days and there is no manga proof against that.

AA + Grimmjow = 42 points.

See what I mean? His ammo adds up, like buying equips in Final Fantasy.

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 10:35 PM
You have no manga proof on how long AA needs to consume people of higher levels. It can take him days, to months, to years. Unless you bring manga proof, your basically making a huge assumption that it will happen in a couple of minutes.

I'm not going to argue with you two about if AA can eat his team mates. Obviously he can't but you guys just want to find loop holes in everything.

Franky
10-10-2009, 10:36 PM
Loopholes need to be filled. That's why this is a trial, BH.

Candy
10-10-2009, 10:36 PM
You have no manga proof on how long AA needs to consume people of higher levels. It can take him days, to months, to years. Unless you bring manga proof, your basically making a huge assumption that it will happen in a couple of minutes.

I'm not going to argue with you two about if AA can eat his team mates. Obviously he can't but you guys just want to find loop holes in everything.

We have no manga proof so its just happens instantly, just like wapol.

Cthulhu-versailles
10-10-2009, 10:37 PM
You can't eat your own team mates. Why are we even argueing this. Why would we allow AA for 6 points and still allow him that ability if he was able to eat his team members. We don't know how long it takes for AA to consume someone and when he actually gains the ability. It could take days and there is no manga proof against that.

Grimjaw and his fraccion were shown to consume hollow immediately or even while killing them in some flashback when Grim was a panther.

I think it said AA's ability comes from having eaten Kaien while Metascia was within him. And I believe Metascia didn't show or suggest long lag times for consumming opponents. If anything, he showed the contrary when he "ate" shinigami.

-Errr I know all about the IC rule, but if AA's abilities is focused on eating hollows to get stronger in combat, I could see him trying it if he's left IC to his own devices. More importantly however, things like Menos Grande don't even have personalities or minds to understand the concept of sacrifice. The same kind of applies to chars like Allon, whom left to his own devies would yell and wail attacking anything without hesitation. Not to mention one could argue AA tells his temates they will become a part of a new great power akin to Cell trying to convince C19. :pek

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 10:39 PM
That's flawed logic Candy. You can't compare One Piece with Bleach. We know Wapol's ability happens instantaneously because we see it. We haven't seen AA consume anyone. I can say by the time you finish eating your first victim, my team will already be on top of your team.

Candy
10-10-2009, 10:40 PM
That's flawed logic Candy. You can't compare One Piece with Bleach. We know Wapol's ability happens instantaneously because we see it. We haven't seen AA consume anyone. I can say by the time you finish eating your first victim, my team will already be on top of your team.

See CV's post. Ive shattered the IC rule, belive it :capc

Sajin
10-10-2009, 10:42 PM
You have no manga proof on how long AA needs to consume people of higher levels. It can take him days, to months, to years. Unless you bring manga proof, your basically making a huge assumption that it will happen in a couple of minutes.

:headscrat Why would it take him years to consume? There's no manga proof of that either, so it's up to the voters' choice.

I'm not going to argue with you two about if AA can eat his team mates. Obviously he can't but you guys just want to find loop holes in everything.

But Brandon, there is absolutely nothing on the rules that prohibits it. If you tell Szayel to cossack dance in the middle of enemy forces, he will. If you tell Soi Fon to make love to Omaeda, she will. If you tell Uryu to go FF and fire everything he has at enemy Hanataro, he will do that no matter what he thinks about it.

Basically, any strat decision overrides any IC decision. That's how I understood the rules at the very least.

Franky
10-10-2009, 10:44 PM
Like Cthulhu said, he has Metastacia's absorbing speed...

Cthulhu-versailles
10-10-2009, 10:48 PM
:headscrat Why would it take him years to consume? There's no manga proof of that either, so it's up to the voters' choice.


But Brandon, there is absolutely nothing on the rules that prohibits it. If you tell Szayel to cossack dance in the middle of enemy forces, he will. If you tell Soi Fon to make love to Omaeda, she will. If you tell Uryu to go FF and fire everything he has at enemy Hanataro, he will do that no matter what he thinks about it.

Basically, any strat decision overrides any IC decision. That's how I understood the rules at the very least.

Omeda is too good for a tomboy like Soi Feng. He would find a way to over through those kind of orders on account of being awesome.:pek

And the point of IC in KC is pretty strict (unless they became more loose since the old days). Back in the days they used IC to prevent chars not only from suiciding/killing one another but even to prevent them from doing utterly riddiculous things that would essentially gurantee they die afterwords. I.E. Tsunade would not be allowed to toss Chouji straight into the enemy with the intention of her and the rest of her team running away while Chouji goes Red Pill to cause as much havoc as possible before collapsing.- I don't know about people like Luppi and those who think, but regular hollows are mostly mindless nothing and don't understand shit. So realistically, AA could absorb Menos, Regenerating Hollow, and maybe something else without any kind of objection from them. Though I suppose it's kind of like arguing the pro choice vs no choice in abortion....

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 10:49 PM
Okay, apparently we are allowing people to kill their own team mates all of a sudden. I don't see a reason to argue this flawed idea anymore. We might as well allow Szyael to use his resurrection ability on his own team mates because it's the same logic.

Apparently no one is reading my strategy or believing that I won't stop them from completing his little consumption show. My team is slow and were allowing him all the time to prep his super unbeatable monster.

Candy
10-10-2009, 10:51 PM
Okay, apparently we are allowing people to kill their own team mates all of a sudden. I don't see a reason to argue this flawed idea anymore. We might as well allow Szyael to use his resurrection ability on his own team mates because it's the same logic.

Apparently no one is reading my strategy or believing that I won't stop them from completing his little consumption show. My team is slow and were allowing him all the time to prep his super unbeatable monster.

I used szayel reserection and no-one cared.

btw the consumption is going very fast. they all jumpin his mouth at once

nick1689
10-10-2009, 10:54 PM
How do we know that AA can even consume Arrancar? Theyre not hollows, theyre hollow/shinigami hybrids

I doubt he could absorb them for that reason. Could he absord Vaizards?

Plus as BH has been saying, we dont know how long it takes. We dont knowe how much of a spike in power AA would get. We dont know alot of things

btw the consumption is going very fast. they all jumpin his mouth at once

Proof that he absorbs them immediately?

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 10:54 PM
Do people really believe that Hitsugaya won't be able to defeat his monster with a strong source of water and ice? People never give Luppi credit of him deserving the 6th Espada rank and now people believe he will give AA an insane boost?

Candy
10-10-2009, 10:55 PM
How do we know that AA can even consume Arrancar? Theyre not hollows, theyre hollow/shinigami hybrids

I doubt he could absorb them for that reason. Could he absord Vaizards?

Plus as BH has been saying, we dont know how long it takes. We dont knowe how much of a spike in power AA would get. We dont know alot of things

Refere back to CV's post on the last page about mestalica

Hollow transforms into menos, menos transforms into adjucas then into arrancar.

However they are all refered to as hollows, zommari said the thing between hollows ans hnigami have been going on forever, refering to his fight with byakuya

Cthulhu-versailles
10-10-2009, 10:55 PM
I haven't read ur strat yet (BH) and I know Candy wouldn't be able to Absorb Luppi or Edoward without them contesting with the new IC rule Nick posted in affect. Such would also be illegal under prima facie (probably using it wrong) technicalitY. mEH. I still maintain it would be IC and or a viable tactic for AA to try it though. Anyway, the old IC rule didn't mention such things, so everything Candy did should be technically legal unless I am missing or misinterpreted something....

With new rule Candy's strat= no edit: but AA sucks donkey balls if he can't absorb even things like menos/generic hollow which he should be allowed to anyway

Sajin
10-10-2009, 10:57 PM
Okay, apparently we are allowing people to kill their own team mates all of a sudden. I don't see a reason to argue this flawed idea anymore. We might as well allow Szyael to use his resurrection ability on his own team mates because it's the same logic.

Apparently no one is reading my strategy or believing that I won't stop them from completing his little consumption show. My team is slow and were allowing him all the time to prep his super unbeatable monster.

Oh come on Brandon :(

First of all, I thought Szayel actually can use his ability on his teammates?..

As for your strat, I just don't think AA will spend ages swallowing Luppi and Co. Since you have no LOS and he has shikai Ichigo, Szayel and Yylfordt to stall you, I see AA making it in time to save most of them. Luppi + Edorad + AA combined should have unpatched Kenpachi level reiatsu by then, so I believe that Hitsugaya will eventually lose despite having the water advantage.

This is really the reason we have trials, you aren't losing because your team/strat sucked but because there's a hax we need to remove before the real tournament starts.

Candy
10-10-2009, 10:58 PM
Do people really believe that Hitsugaya won't be able to defeat his monster with a strong source of water and ice? People never give Luppi credit of him deserving the 6th Espada rank and now people believe he will give AA an insane boost?

Remeber that im spamming fire blasts with 8 giant tentacles, and I have the fire arrancars fire defence

and that I have the regen hollow as well

nick1689
10-10-2009, 10:58 PM
Refere back to CV's post on the last page about mestalica

And mestalica, or however you speel it, is an arrancar now? AA cna consume hollows, not hybrids

^ I haven't read ur strat yet and I know Candy wouldn't be able to Absorb Luppi or Edoward without them contesting with the new IC rule Nick posted in affect. Though I still maintain it would be IC and or a viable tactic for AA to try it. Anyway, the old IC rule didn't mention such things, so everything Candy did should be technically legal unless I am missing or misinterpreted something....

It's only a suggested rule.

It's IC for AA consume others, so that's fair, however it is not IC for Luppi or Edorad to sacrifice themselves. Chars will follow strats to the best of their ability, but when it comes down to sacrificing ones self, that's an IC motive

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 10:59 PM
Water/Ice > Fire :huh

Candy
10-10-2009, 11:00 PM
Water/Ice > Fire :huh

Fire>ice :huh


arrancar are hollows btw

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 11:02 PM
As if his fire is as strong as Hitsugaya's ice attacks.

Franky
10-10-2009, 11:02 PM
How do we know that AA can even consume Arrancar? Theyre not hollows, theyre hollow/shinigami hybrids

I doubt he could absorb them for that reason. Could he absord Vaizards?

Plus as BH has been saying, we dont know how long it takes. We dont knowe how much of a spike in power AA would get. We dont know alot of things



Proof that he absorbs them immediately?
Kaien Shiba was a Shinigami taken over by a Hollow, that didn't stop AA.

Candy
10-10-2009, 11:03 PM
As if his fire is as strong as Hitsugaya's ice attacks.

not from edorade, but from a super eaiatsu pumped AA with 8 gaint tentacles to shoot it out of, yea

Sajin
10-10-2009, 11:03 PM
It's IC for AA consume others, so that's fair, however it is not IC for Luppi or Edorad to sacrifice themselves. Chars will follow strats to the best of their ability, but when it comes down to sacrificing ones self, that's an IC motive

Neither is it IC for Kenpachi to run away etc etc. Where's the difference?

nick1689
10-10-2009, 11:04 PM
Fire>ice :huh


arrancar are hollows btw

But theyre also shinigami. Theyre hollow/shinigami hybrids

nick1689
10-10-2009, 11:05 PM
Kaien Shiba was a Shinigami taken over by a Hollow, that didn't stop AA.

Yeh. That's one person. Not many chars at once. Plus, metastica (sp) cant absord hollows either. Which brings us back to the hollow/shinigami hybrid

Candy
10-10-2009, 11:06 PM
But theyre also shinigami. Theyre hollow/shinigami hybrids

No they are hollow


For instance vasto lords look completely human but are still hollow

Franky
10-10-2009, 11:07 PM
But theyre also shinigami. Theyre hollow/shinigami hybridsYeh. That's one person. Not many chars at once
errr... what diffrence does it make?

"gulp gulp gulp" "oh hey, just ate three hollow/arrancar people"

nick1689
10-10-2009, 11:09 PM
No they are hollow


For instance vasto lords look completely human but are still hollow

Huh? It's canon Arrancar are hollow/shinigami hybrids

errr... what diffrence does it make?

"gulp gulp gulp" "oh hey, just ate three hollow/arrancar people"

First look at my edit

The difference is is that AA has never shown that ability, it's non canonical

AA absorbs hollows, not hollow/shinigami hybrids

Candy
10-10-2009, 11:11 PM
Huh? It's canon Arrancar are hollow/shinigami hybrids



Scans :quite


The term is hollows who have gained shinigami powers, in other words, still hollows

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 11:11 PM
Vizards and arrancars are hybrid shinigami hollows.

Candy
10-10-2009, 11:12 PM
Vizards and arrancars are hybrid shinigami hollows.

referwe to my earlier post

nick1689
10-10-2009, 11:12 PM
Aizen explained it. You gain more power by crossing the line between hollow and shinigami, to become a hollow/shinigami hybrid

Sajin
10-10-2009, 11:14 PM
Huh? It's canon Arrancar are hollow/shinigami hybrids



First look at my edit

The difference is is that AA has never shown that ability, it's non canonical

AA absorbs hollows, not hollow/shinigami hybrids

Didn't Metastacia absorb Kaien? I don't really remember that well though.

Candy
10-10-2009, 11:14 PM
Aizen explained it. You gain more power by crossing the line between hollow and shinigami, to become a hollow/shinigami hybrid

Yet theyare still holow and he has mestalicas ability to absord/control shinigami

Cthulhu-versailles
10-10-2009, 11:16 PM
Neither is it IC for Kenpachi to run away etc etc. Where's the difference?

Because Kenpachi, despite being bloodlusted all the time, actually has a will to live and would retreat if given the oppourtunity, or if he was ordered to by someone like Yamamoto. We as the strategiest basically get the respect of someone like Aizen/Yamamoto. On the other hand, Luppi would not willing kill himself even if Aizen ordered him to, and neither would most chars. ___Argument has exception 4 gerneric holows, allon + people like Zommari who did die for Aize...., BANZAI AIZEM-SAMA!!!!! Also Ichigo when it comes to Hime or Rukia :pek

Edit: Also Nemu would willing throw her life away for any whim of Mayaori.

nick1689
10-10-2009, 11:19 PM
Didn't Metastacia absorb Kaien? I don't really remember that well though.

Only one at a time though

Yet theyare still holow and he has mestalicas ability to absord/control shinigami

Look above. But then we're back to the problem of metastica consuming a hollow/shinigami hydrid, something we dont know if he can do or not

Franky
10-10-2009, 11:21 PM
Metastacia was a Hollow/Shinigami hybrid and AA absorbed him.

And being able to eat a lot isn't impossible...

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 11:22 PM
But do we know if it is possible and do we know how long it takes? No.

Candy
10-10-2009, 11:23 PM
But do we know if it is possible and do we know how long it takes? No.

Mestalica absorbed them immedeitly

Brandon Heat
10-10-2009, 11:25 PM
How many at a time?

Candy
10-11-2009, 01:18 AM
How many at a time?

First of all AA has a huge mouth, which you already know. so in proportion to the size of mestalica be could fit the people I want to absord inside him

Franky
10-11-2009, 01:21 AM
Omg. Guys. I think I might like Bleach more than One Piece.:-(

Also, AA's ability to eat shit will prob'ly get banned now

Candy
10-11-2009, 01:26 AM
Omg. Guys. I think I might like Bleach more than One Piece.:-(

Also, AA's ability to eat shit will prob'ly get banned now

Yea, I got an ability banned :hurr

Its a good thing I didnt trial "that" :quite

Franky
10-11-2009, 01:29 AM
Yea, I got an ability banned :hurr

Its a good thing I didnt trial "that" :quite

Which "that" do you mean? We have many.:gar:gun

BlackSmoke
10-11-2009, 01:51 AM
Adult Swim is airing Rukia vs AA right now...she just shone the sunlight on him.
"Only Gillian who is an espada, talks about Metastacia "I ATE HIM AND MADE HIS POWERS MINE" was able to absorb both their abilities....
"
-AA
guy is Espada version of Ditto from pokemon.

Franky
10-11-2009, 02:02 AM
His release looks like the R-rated version of Ditto.:hurr

eunique
10-11-2009, 02:23 AM
Vote Brandon Heat

i think i already explained myself before... and reading BH strat, its good hitsugaya basically has xmas in his side.

Franky
10-11-2009, 02:27 AM
Against a Volcano with the highest reitsu known to man?:-(

eunique
10-11-2009, 02:45 AM
from what i remember AA can only eat 1 at a time, atleast that hollow that kaien was eaten by did, and why is he a volcano? brandon's strat makes the battlefield almost like the north pole and hitsugaya's gonna have that in his arsenal

luppi wasn't able to destroy the ice prison by the way, it was an external force known as negacion, by himself he wouldnt be able to release himself

Franky
10-11-2009, 02:50 AM
The Volcano part is because he's eating Edorado Leones, whose shoulder LITTERALLY erupt...

I think his thing he says before his Releases name is "Erupt":-(

eunique
10-11-2009, 03:01 AM
and eldorad is a what? fraccion, his reiatsu increases but is there a proof that the abilities he have eaten increases reiatsu dmg? like for example he used kaien's abilities but rukia wasnt defeated by it and to think that he'd eaten thousands of hollows.

so if the abilities themselves become stronger because of the reaitsu that he ate then he should have been able to one shot rukia, someone who isnt even VC level.

Kaien>rukia and AA ate kaien and his ability and reiatsu and thousand hollows therefore AA should have one shotted rukia.

Is that not so? or are we gonna call this Kubo Troll! Plotkai?

Candy
10-11-2009, 03:05 AM
and eldorad is a what? fraccion, his reiatsu increases but is there a proof that the abilities he have eaten increases reiatsu dmg? like for example he used kaien's abilities but rukia wasnt defeated by it and to think that he'd eaten thousands of hollows.

so if the abilities themselves become stronger because of the reaitsu that he ate then he should have been able to one shot rukia, someone who isnt even VC level.

Kaien>rukia and AA ate kaien and his ability and reiatsu and thousand hollows therefore AA should have one shotted rukia.

Is that not so? or are we gonna call this Kubo Troll! Plotkai?

IT jus so happen the AA vs. rukia fight was on dub just a couple of seconds ago :pimp

AA isnt getting beaten by hitsu becuase of the heat defence and also the fact that im spamming fire blasts. His north pole, turns into the ring of fire.

Plus I have 8 giant tentacles to spam it with :pimp

eunique
10-11-2009, 03:07 AM
which doesnt answer my question ^^

fire isnt necessarily > ice

Candy
10-11-2009, 03:07 AM
Did I forget to mention that I have a vizard shikai ichigo running around soamming GTs?

edit: Fire always >>>>> ice

When I put a match to an ice, the ice melts

eunique
10-11-2009, 03:12 AM
your getting off topic, answer my question first or atleast enlighten me as to why im wrong with what i said

this is bleach we are talking about, ur telling me that fire>ice so that means that

eldorad>hitsugaya oh my what nonsense a fraccion defeats a captain class GG, i aplaud you ^^

and to think ice becomes water and guess what espada #3 is a water type so that means eldorad>hallibel oh wow! a fraccion defeats an espada

Franky
10-11-2009, 03:13 AM
10 bucks you just tested that, too...:urahaha

eunique
10-11-2009, 03:15 AM
10 bucks you just tested that, too...:urahaha

is this directed at me? :(

Franky
10-11-2009, 03:15 AM
CLASSES DON'T MATTER.

Durr, that should be common sense when Omaeda kills a Fraccion and Ikkaku pulls a Bankai out of his ass.:zaru

Anyway, yeah, ranks don't matter. Hitsu has never faced fire.

Franky
10-11-2009, 03:16 AM
is this directed at me? :(

no, not at all. I meant the whole matches and ice thing:hurr

Candy
10-11-2009, 03:16 AM
IT doesnt really matter becuse your vote is clearly invalid, wouldnt you agee franky?

The vote is like one sentence long and doesnt show that she knows anything about BH's strat or my strat.

Its an invalid vote

Franky
10-11-2009, 03:19 AM
I'll say it's valid.:hurr

You don't disrespect girls. I can't call a technicallity on a girl. I'll just look the other way.:amuse

eunique
10-11-2009, 03:20 AM
please look at page 2, why dont you answer me instead of giving reasons as to why my vote should be invalid? if your so sure of your strat you should be able to answer a question like that no?

Candy
10-11-2009, 03:20 AM
Thats stupid franky, so if a girl says " hold my crack, coke, cheese, heroin, pot, smokes, booze, and vodka!" would you do it?


But seriously, the vote is invalid

Candy
10-11-2009, 03:22 AM
please look at page 2, why dont you answer me instead of giving reasons as to why my vote should be invalid?

I did answer you, but apparntly ice is so majical that it can stop 8 fire blasts that are contrantly being spamed by the most powerfull character to ever be in a match in this BD


But your vote is clearly invalid, theres no getting around it

Franky
10-11-2009, 03:22 AM
Thats stupid franky, so if a girl says " hold my crack, coke, cheese, heroin, pot, smokes, booze, and vodka!" would you do it?

Yes, I would. Then I'd burn it on the ground and stomp on it in front of her and tell her why it's bad for her.

Candy
10-11-2009, 03:27 AM
Yes, I would. Then I'd burn it on the ground and stomp on it in front of her and tell her why it's bad for her.

What about if a girl told you to do a guy?

I think I have you beat :pimp

Franky
10-11-2009, 03:28 AM
What about if a girl told you to do a guy?

I think I have you beat :pimp

edit: don't open jokes for nick... they'll include you too.

eunique
10-11-2009, 03:29 AM
I did answer you, but apparntly ice is so majical that it can stop 8 fire blasts that are contrantly being spamed by the most powerfull character to ever be in a match in this BD


But your vote is clearly invalid, theres no getting around it

why is my vote invalid?

i dont think AA would get soooo strong after eating luppi and eldorad, i mean look he ate like thousands of hollows and he was still defeated by rukia, someone who isnt even a VC, also i remember that it does increase his reiatsu if he eats, but was it ever implied by how much it will increase his reiatsu?

Candy
10-11-2009, 03:30 AM
?

Thats pretty gay :oh and I would edit that out of your post before nick sees it.

What if a girl told you to mass murder your whole family?

Candy
10-11-2009, 03:32 AM
why is my vote invalid?

i dont think AA would get soooo strong after eating luppi and eldorad, i mean look he ate like thousands of hollows and he was still defeated by rukia, someone who isnt even a VC, also i remember that it does increase his reiatsu if he eats, but was it ever implied by how much it will increase his reiatsu?

First off all he gains the reiatsu of everyone he eats, in full. So he has the power of 2 espada.

Its mainly the abilities I want, he can regarte from any attack, and can blast fire form his tentacles and use steam defene to ge out of ice.


Your vote is invalid becuase its like one sentence long :huh

Franky
10-11-2009, 03:33 AM
I'm about to edit it. but you have to edit it out, too. Btw, I still like girls better, I just don't give a fuck if someone flashes a penis at me. In fact, I'd prob'ly hurt them.

If I WERE gay, I would've raped you by now. Considering how perverted I am.

And yes, I would mass-murder them. I despise them, remember?

For my best friend, you seem to forget a lot of things I tell you...

Candy
10-11-2009, 03:35 AM
I'm about to edit it. but you have to edit it out, too. Btw, I still like girls better, I just don't give a fuck if someone flashes a penis at me. In fact, I'd prob'ly hurt them.

If I WERE gay, I would've raped you by now. Considering how perverted I am.

And yes, I would mass-murder them. I despise them, remember?

For my best friend, you seem to forget a lot of things I tell you...

Your extended family?

As for the forgetfullness, ITS 1:30 IN THE MORNING :coffee

Franky
10-11-2009, 03:37 AM
Yeah, sure. I'd kill them all.

You also forget that I'm a Sadist who loves to watch others fight and get angry, showing their true colors and creating beautiful chaos. Being a Sadist, I like to watch others in pain, too, I just don't do it to people who actually make a diffrence to me.

And you know yourself how little they do for me, how little they care, and how badly they treat me.

eunique
10-11-2009, 03:40 AM
First off all he gains the reiatsu of everyone he eats, in full. So he has the power of 2 espada.

Its mainly the abilities I want, he can regarte from any attack, and can blast fire form his tentacles and use steam defene to ge out of ice.


Your vote is invalid becuase its like one sentence long :huh

do you have a scan that he says he get the reiatsu in full?

i dont want to rewrite why i think you'll lose, i already wrote it in page 2, no way am i going to copy paste it

eunique
10-11-2009, 03:40 AM
i dont think this is the place to spam candy and franky...

Franky
10-11-2009, 03:43 AM
i dont think this is the place to spam candy and franky...

We do it a lot, don't worry.

Candy
10-11-2009, 03:45 AM
do you have a scan that he says he get the reiatsu in full?

i dont want to rewrite why i think you'll lose, i already wrote it in page 2, no way am i going to copy paste it

At the moment im useing a computer thats really slow, so getting that scan would heck. Ive already posted it like 5 times :oh

I do know he says "I gain their reiatsu" He didnt say partail, he said that he gains it. hat means he gians all if luppis and edorads reiatsu

If you dont want to re-type then the vote is invalid, sorry but thats just how it goes on here. you could copy and paste it, or quote it

i dont think this is the place to spam candy and franky...

I clearly have this match in the bag so it really doesnt matter

eunique
10-11-2009, 03:59 AM
sigh, first i dont believe that AA would get all the reiatsu, because if so, then he would have kaien's reiatsu + thousand more hollows and having that in mind, he should have been able to one shot rukia since kaien>rukia more so kaien+thousand hollows>rukia, that being said i doubt AA's reiatsu would exponentially get stronger

second as i said before, the mirage tool was only used once, it cant copy attack types and whatnots and it was only used on an outraged nel who isnt in her "fight mode" and thus could easily have been played about. thus it would be only a distraction for like what a second or so? i also think that elifort is not that fast with two guys on his back -ichigo and szayel- he would then be an easy target

third if AA goes up in the pillars i dont think the enemy squad is too stupid to not see him there, that being said the other team could just destroy the pillars if he tries to go up there, thus making him fall and an easier target, also he isn't that mobile and he's fighting against range fighters with decent speed feats that can evade his attacks, thus he is a sitting duck in my opinion

now does that sate you now?

vote Brandon Heat

Candy
10-11-2009, 04:08 AM
sigh, first i dont believe that AA would get all the reiatsu, because if so, then he would have kaien's reiatsu + thousand more hollows and having that in mind, he should have been able to one shot rukia since kaien>rukia more so kaien+thousand hollows>rukia, that being said i doubt AA's reiatsu would exponentially get stronger

second as i said before, the mirage tool was only used once, it cant copy attack types and whatnots and it was only used on an outraged nel who isnt in her "fight mode" and thus could easily have been played about. thus it would be only a distraction for like what a second or so? i also think that elifort is not that fast with two guys on his back -ichigo and szayel- he would then be an easy target

third if AA goes up in the pillars i dont think the enemy squad is too stupid to not see him there, that being said the other team could just destroy the pillars if he tries to go up there, thus making him fall and an easier target, also he isn't that mobile and he's fighting against range fighters with decent speed feats that can evade his attacks, thus he is a sitting duck in my opinion

now does that sate you now?

vote Brandon Heat

Yes, that is a vote :amuse

But a couple of things, kubo and his plot. of course he let rukia win, if he didnt that would just be messed up, he can absord the reistsu of hollows completely ive showed scans


AA has luppis helicopter ability, he can fly

Whats his team doing about vizard shikai ichigo?

His team would not knock over pillars in IC, people in bleach attack head on.

Hes a sitting duck who can:
fly
regenarate at high speeds
Use his 8 giant tentacles to attack
spam fire blasts
use the reaisu of 2 espadas plus an innurable amount of hollows
break your zampakto
absord you


This character is invincible

eunique
10-11-2009, 04:17 AM
then going with kubo plot, he wont get that much reiatsu and vaizard ichigo is not what you have, and as you said he will ride elifort, that would hinder elifort and be an easy target to the enemy team

he can fly~~ nope he cant have you seen how big he is?
regenerate at high speeds => how high and why? from what i remember ulq was the only one with high regen and even he cant regen organs
use his 8 giant tentacles and spam fire blast -> this is from him eating luppi and edorad yes? so what will he look like? can he even use multiple abilities at one time?
use the reiatsu .... -> Troll! Plotkai! i would rather believe in the fact that he was defeated by rukia who has lower reiatsu than even just one of the person he ate and still was defeated, that being said it was self proclaimed and no proof that he can absorb they're reiatsu, being defeated by someone who aint even VC level reiatsu smarts
break your Zanpaktou -> his enemies are long ranged, no breaking from what i can see
absorb you -> how long does absorbing take? and how will he absorb long range fighters?

nick1689
10-11-2009, 04:21 AM
Candy there is no solid proof that what you 'made' would even work, it's made up more of assumptions than fact

Candy
10-11-2009, 04:23 AM
then going with kubo plot, he wont get that much reiatsu and vaizard ichigo is not what you have, and as you said he will ride elifort, that would hinder elifort and be an easy target to the enemy team

he can fly~~ nope he cant have you seen how big he is?
regenerate at high speeds => how high and why? from what i remember ulq was the only one with high regen and even he cant regen organs
use his 8 giant tentacles and spam fire blast -> this is from him eating luppi and edorad yes? so what will he look like? can he even use multiple abilities at one time?
use the reiatsu .... -> Troll! Plotkai! i would rather believe in the fact that he was defeated by rukia who has lower reiatsu than even just one of the person he ate and still was defeated, that being said it was self proclaimed and no proof that he can absorb they're reiatsu, being defeated by someone who aint even VC level reiatsu smarts
break your Zanpaktou -> his enemies are long ranged, no breaking from what i can see
absorb you -> how long does absorbing take? and how will he absorb long range fighters?


Regenarate: he ate the regn hollow

HE can use multipe abilities at once, its in the scan

Rukia was clever and used her smarts to beat a person much stroner then she was.

As for the rest, im just staeing what he can do

eunique
10-11-2009, 04:27 AM
so your saying the regen hollows>ulq regen? well anyways i doubt he's undestructable even with regen hollow
Yes he can use multiple abilities i remember but he would have that humongous form that would be unable to fly and very low mobility.

which part did rukia used her smarts? if AA was telling the truth about the reiatsu, rukia would have died with just one atk, im saying that in this one Kubo Troll wins and AA's self proclamation means nothing

Candy
10-11-2009, 04:37 AM
so your saying the regen hollows>ulq regen? well anyways i doubt he's undestructable even with regen hollow
Yes he can use multiple abilities i remember but he would have that humongous form that would be unable to fly and very low mobility.

which part did rukia used her smarts? if AA was telling the truth about the reiatsu, rukia would have died with just one atk, im saying that in this one Kubo Troll wins and AA's self proclamation means nothing

Still what about vizard shikai ichigo

e697
10-11-2009, 04:46 AM
Sorry to break it to ya, but I am definetely on the AA cant eat people. And dont think either of you 2 were original at all. Plenty of people have mentioned AA eating other people and people have always said it wont work. Darkguy i think made a strat where AA ate his whole team.

Even if he is allowed to, which he is not, he still will be shit. He wont grow tentacles. He could transform into one of those people on top, but thats useless since he is way weaker than hitsu anyway. He didnt show any feats of using anyones ability other than kaens at the same time, so he can only use on persons ability at a time when he transforms, although he has the reatsu of all of them.

He also can not absorb arrancar, because they are not hollows, they are different. Otherwise, why would not he have absorbed a bunch of the privaron hollows or at least some good arrancar and not 10000 shity hollows. If those hollows were not shitty, then that proves when he absorbs them he barely gets stronger in reatsu. So... Hitsu takes it alone. (I didnt even read bhs strat but unless it was worse than IC he wins)

VOTE BH

eunique
10-11-2009, 04:48 AM
you put him on elifort, he'll be taken down along with elifort and szayel, although your strat was good, but your main which is AA; i think youve over estimated him

Candy
10-11-2009, 04:51 AM
Sorry to break it to ya, but I am definetely on the AA cant eat people. And dont think either of you 2 were original at all. Plenty of people have mentioned AA eating other people and people have always said it wont work. Darkguy i think made a strat where AA ate his whole team.

Even if he is allowed to, which he is not, he still will be shit. He wont grow tentacles. He could transform into one of those people on top, but thats useless since he is way weaker than hitsu anyway. He didnt show any feats of using anyones ability other than kaens at the same time, so he can only use on persons ability at a time when he transforms, although he has the reatsu of all of them.

He also can not absorb arrancar, because they are not hollows, they are different. Otherwise, why would not he have absorbed a bunch of the privaron hollows or at least some good arrancar and not 10000 shity hollows. If those hollows were not shitty, then that proves when he absorbs them he barely gets stronger in reatsu. So... Hitsu takes it alone. (I didnt even read bhs strat but unless it was worse than IC he wins)

VOTE BH

He said he was able to use all the abilites of the hollows he had captured in his released form.

To the last paragraph, kubo troll. AA could have, but that would have made the gap between rukia and AA to big

e697
10-11-2009, 04:56 AM
Ya but we want feats here. He said he can use all of them. I agree, just not at the same time, otherwise he would have, and you can not prove me wrong.

Candy
10-11-2009, 05:05 AM
:obama

Obama was here, and hes editing your posts

Brandon Heat
10-11-2009, 10:02 AM
There is no reason to forfeit. We should at least play out the match.

Candy
10-11-2009, 02:11 PM
Sire hwat efer, editing post

nick1689
10-11-2009, 06:49 PM
Goddam candy, learn to type

Atleast read over what you typed before pressing post

BlackSmoke
10-11-2009, 06:52 PM
Ignoring Hax =3=

Candy
10-11-2009, 07:31 PM
Goddam candy, learn to type

Atleast read over what you typed before pressing post

I just type waaaaaaaay to fast. I really dont like goin back and correcting something. :amazed

Whats the vote count, anyone know?

BlackSmoke
10-11-2009, 09:01 PM
Candy, just insult the voters already :D::gun

your trial was a success win or lose, you brought up some good questions.

Sajin
10-11-2009, 09:04 PM
...How the hell did this PRACTICE match get to 11 pages!?

Candy
10-11-2009, 09:06 PM
...How the hell did this PRACTICE match get to 11 pages!?

Argueing about AA :huh

Sajin
10-11-2009, 09:07 PM
Uh... Right, that was a silly question :hurr

Anyways, is the length of these matches 2 or 3 days? If it's 2 then it's over and we can post the two other ones.

Candy
10-11-2009, 09:08 PM
Uh... Right, that was a silly question :hurr

Anyways, is the length of these matches 2 or 3 days? If it's 2 then it's over and we can post the two other ones.

Its 3, so one more day

Franky
10-11-2009, 09:51 PM
...How the hell did this PRACTICE match get to 11 pages!?

I was here:LOS

migukuni
10-12-2009, 03:13 AM
vote Brandon Heat

basically because we havent seen AA do the things candy told him to do atleast in that extent... eat more than one arrancar at one time -i doubt he can eat arrancars- and using multiple abilities at once- and lol at AA flying, he has a huge ass, he wont be flying anywhere

nick1689
10-12-2009, 05:47 AM
Vote for BH for the reason ive mentioned before about why I think the whole AA strat candy is using wont work. Once that backfires, his strat falls apart

That's a good enough vote for a trial :zaru

Candy
10-12-2009, 09:05 AM
vote Brandon Heat

basically because we havent seen AA do the things candy told him to do atleast in that extent... eat more than one arrancar at one time -i doubt he can eat arrancars- and using multiple abilities at once- and lol at AA flying, he has a huge ass, he wont be flying anywhere

Vote for BH for the reason ive mentioned before about why I think the whole AA strat candy is using wont work. Once that backfires, his strat falls apart

That's a good enough vote for a trial :zaru

If hitsu is seriosly stong enough to beat vizard shikai ichigo, then he needs to be torn off the list :oh

Nicks vote is vuage enough to make sence

Vote for ______ for the reason ive mentioned before about why I think the whole _______ strat _______ is using wont work. Once that backfires, his strat falls apart


the other dudes vote confuses me becuase I already covred those points in full :huh

nick1689
10-12-2009, 09:08 AM
Um yeh, not sure if you knew, but Shikai Ichigo is not a vaizard

Sorry to dissapoint

Candy
10-12-2009, 09:09 AM
Um yeh, not sure if you knew, but Shikai Ichigo is not a vaizard

Sorry to dissapoint

There was never a ruleing on it :P

migukuni
10-12-2009, 09:12 AM
do you have a question with my vote candy? :huh

nick1689
10-12-2009, 09:14 AM
There is clearly a rule on it, if you look in the information thread, under Current Guidelines and Assumptions (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=24302112&postcount=5)

Candy
10-12-2009, 09:14 AM
do you have a question with my vote candy? :huh

All of the things you stated he couldnt do (exeapt for flying, hes gonna be climb up places with his tentacles) have been said hes able to do in the manga. manga cannon :pek:gun

migukuni
10-12-2009, 09:15 AM
did he do it? or are they just self proclaimed by AA?

nick1689
10-12-2009, 09:20 AM
Candy, you missed my link :pek

Candy
10-12-2009, 09:24 AM
Candy, you missed my link :pek

I found it


I see wat you did thar :LOS

nick1689
10-12-2009, 09:27 AM
I think I might leave it that way :del

Franky
10-12-2009, 09:50 AM
Keep posting so we can get to 500 /spam

Candy
10-12-2009, 09:57 AM
ho ho :hoho :ho

nick1689
10-12-2009, 10:00 AM
Stop right there :pek:gun

Back to the convo thread for you two

Franky
10-12-2009, 07:09 PM
Is this match over yet?:D:

Candy
10-12-2009, 07:18 PM
Is this match over yet?:D:

never :pek:gun


Vote candy

Hes way to gar to lose :gar

Franky
10-12-2009, 07:36 PM
You've got 25 minutes to prove that point. Find some scans:LOS:gun

Sajin
10-12-2009, 08:05 PM
Sooo... BH wins 4-3? This match should be over by now.

Candy
10-12-2009, 08:06 PM
yup :gar (:()

Brandon Heat
10-12-2009, 08:16 PM
Brandon Heat defeats Gol D. Roger (4-3)
Brandon Heat advances to the next round.

Candy
10-12-2009, 08:17 PM
Lucky brandon. you stoped the most hax strat ever :(

nick1689
10-13-2009, 06:13 AM
It was never hax as it would never work

Candy
10-13-2009, 09:13 AM
It was never hax as it would never work

Thats your opinion isnt it? I mean, 3 people thought it would

nick1689
10-13-2009, 09:22 AM
3 people were ignoring the lack of manga evidence to support this hax of yours :edu

Sajin
10-13-2009, 09:33 AM
3 people were taking into account lack of manga evidence to think otherwise :LOS

Antlion6
10-13-2009, 12:37 PM
3 people were taking into account lack of manga evidence to think otherwise


A valid tactic. Can you prove Bawabawa can die!?!!?!?!?!?

Animus
10-13-2009, 10:20 PM
Killing your own teammates breaks the IC rule, it's like that in every BD. It simply isn't fair strategy to sacrifice your teammates as the cornerstone of your strategy.

Cthulhu-versailles
10-13-2009, 11:04 PM
I don't think Nar/OP Bd has a characters whose entire ability and purpose is to kill a select and distinctive grouop for direct benefits to his being as a fundamanetal to their character. Hence, the comparsion doesn't really work so well. Admittedly, Op BD has wapol who loopholes around that. In a similar vein, NAr Bd has some chars who could potentially gain some hax from killing someone like oro/kakuzu. However, in their cases it is diffrent because 1) it's not a distinct and exact group they target for spurious benefits 2) it's not a distinct part of their being and doesn't define them 3) the gains aren't necessarily direct bolsters or copies of power that people would believe could be acquired in the timeframe of a match, much less controlled..

Franky
10-13-2009, 11:24 PM
Oh hey look, it's Stabby. Hi Stabby.:hurr

Brandon Heat
10-13-2009, 11:30 PM
Please keep all discussions out of threads with matches already completed. We have a general discussion thread for any general comments or opinions.

Candy
10-14-2009, 08:34 PM
Killing your own teammates breaks the IC rule, it's like that in every BD. It simply isn't fair strategy to sacrifice your teammates as the cornerstone of your strategy.

Sorry stabby but you wont srtop my conquest of killing the IC rule :P

Sajin
10-14-2009, 08:43 PM
:facepalm

Whoever posts here after me (hopefully no one) will feel the wrath of my 60 point neg :pek

This match has ENDED. If you want to spam, do it in the convo.

nick1689
10-14-2009, 09:19 PM
LOL, 60 point neg. Bring it on bitch :argh

Sajin
10-14-2009, 09:37 PM
I will pretend I did not see this. :hurr
I never thought I'd say that but Nick, you have to cease your spamming. :pek