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Absolute Zero
09-26-2004, 11:21 PM
Easily my favorite anime of all time. It's just so...profound.
Anyone else like it?
Sparky
09-26-2004, 11:31 PM
My boyfriend bought me the boxed set for my birthday(*<3's him*), and I liked it a lot. *watched it all in one day*
I wouldn't say it was my favorite, but it was good. :)
Kage_Bunshin212
09-27-2004, 12:23 AM
it was one of my favorites too, but i just cant get over the damn ending, wayyyy too confusing. heard they ran out of money so they needed to put something together with their limited funds
I loved this show but the ending fucked it up for me ( pardon my language, but i get really pissed when i remember evangelion)
Absolute Zero
09-27-2004, 12:43 AM
I'm one of the rare breed who loved both the TV and End of Evangelion endings (which do tell the same story/event, albeit in a much different manner).
First time I saw the entire thing, it was all I could think about for a good week.
mary no jutsu
09-27-2004, 01:25 AM
i enjoed evangelion a lot. i watched it when i was 10 and was like wat the hell. but now i rewatched it and i understand it alot more. its so deep and it was one of the first animes that i watched that had a deep meaning. probably one of the best animes out there. does anyone know that there making a live action movie of evangelion
Hinatalovesme
09-27-2004, 01:57 AM
*Plays "It's Gendo" theme* ooh baby ;D lol
I can easily say that Eva is definately my favorite without a hitch....and the parody ReDeath kicks but as well =D
sekitheifrit
09-27-2004, 02:06 AM
Evangelion is what got me into anime, and it has always been my favorite. I liked the series, and the movies. I also can't wait to see the live action adaptation i use to hear so much about.
otakufan
09-27-2004, 02:07 AM
Evangelion is my favorite anime ever, but FMA is catching up quick.
Eva can't stay on top forever... T_T
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...Please don't let them screw up the live-action movie!!!!!
Kaiosama
09-27-2004, 02:10 AM
The ending in the TV series was just awful, I'm glad that I can only barely remember it. At least End of Evangelion gave you some stuff to think about.
Vaelen
09-27-2004, 10:46 AM
One of the greatest shows of all time.. :) Loved both the TV-ending and the End of-ending.. :D Have to watch it again.. :D
BlackMorpheus
09-27-2004, 05:54 PM
It's one of my favourites, but too short... it should have been longer!
SoulFire
09-27-2004, 05:57 PM
Rei was my first anime love :o I have all eps available on DVD...
I cant believe how they ended the series, but The End of made a lot of things right...eventough i'll never cope with the "death" of Rei 1 ;_;
Mecha-Tama
09-27-2004, 06:53 PM
I love Evangelion and all, but it's a bit overrated IMO
ChibiHannes
09-27-2004, 07:12 PM
I don't like Evangelion, it is boring.
I tried to understand the greatnes with it by reading an article about it in a swedish manga magazine, but I still didn't understand why almost everyone loves it so much >_<
It was only fun when Kauro was there ^__^ It was REALLY fun. The scenes with him and Shinji were the only good in the series. And Shinji's beautiful voice of course ^^
kenris
09-27-2004, 07:48 PM
Everything but the ending was good. I love the End of Evangelion except for the fact that Shinji and Asuka got to live and everyone else dies. The 2 characters I hated most in that anime survive and every character I like dies. Other than that I loved it.
Absolute Zero
09-28-2004, 01:09 AM
Everything but the ending was good. I love the End of Evangelion except for the fact that Shinji and Asuka got to live and everyone else dies. The 2 characters I hated most in that anime survive and every character I like dies. Other than that I loved it.
Shinji and Asuka are not the only ones left alive. A good 10 minutes of dialogue prior to the beach scene is all about how the rest of humanity can come back if they want...we only happen to see Shinji and Asuka. Presumably, Misato and Ritsuko can come back as well, even though they died pre-3I.
fyredriftwood
09-28-2004, 02:57 AM
Good series, probably one of the top 10 created, but not "the best." Definitely very over-rated... though if you can handle Shinji's whining then more power to you.
kyubinaruto75
10-10-2004, 12:05 AM
im sorry... i jus dun get hte ending to this great series... were everyone is congratualing shinji on realizing that he wants to live? isnt kaji, misato,and ritsuko and his mom dead??
mary no jutsu
10-10-2004, 12:50 AM
i didn't not get the ending either don't watch the ending just watch the movies death and rebirth cause those are the real endings. cuase at the time anno hideki (the creator of eva) was going tthrough a depressed state so all his emotions were put into the last episodes so then they are very hard to interpret. the movies have a much more better ending. id have to say that evangelion is probably one of the best animes ever
Harp Heaven
10-10-2004, 04:20 AM
What happens, starting from the rest of the series, is explained in the Evangelion movies (I haven't seen them). The final episodes of the anime, however, are Hideaki Anno's thoughts about his depression. Obviously, he, like many other depressed people, suffered from semi-paranoid thoughts, self-loathing and self-pity (nobody likes me, I'm worthless, I'm pathetic, et.c. et.c.), but analyzed himself and came to the conclusion that these thoughts were wrong and came out on the other side into happiness. Since the characters in NGE are representations of his mental turmoil, it makes sense that if he were to become happy again, the characters would live in a balanced, "normal" world free of the burden of imminent world destruction. I presume that the angel attacks are the more serious bouts of depression, possibly suicide attempts.
I did not like Evangelion at all, so I'm kinda wondering why I'm spending time analyzing it here...
otakufan
10-10-2004, 04:43 AM
The ending of the anime and the ending in the movie are opposites of one another. In the anime, Shinji allows Human Complementation to occur, even though it's not directly said that he does. Thus, everyone is dead, even Shinji. When it shows everyone at the end congratulating, even "dead" characters, it is showing that Shinji gave in, because he is getting what will make him happy, despite the fact that it is not true happiness.
In the movie, however, Shinji rejects Human Complementation, allowing him and Asuka to survive and giving humans the chance to choose whether or not they want to come back, though the movie left off before we find out if anyone does. This makes Shinji sad, understandably, but gives him the chance to find true happiness, rather than the fake happiness that he would have attained otherwise.
Personally, I prefer the movie's ending, as it shows a sense of maturity that Shinji had lacked before.
EMPRA
10-10-2004, 05:19 AM
This is my best anime series, itz just that good any way the movies do tell a story of there own they show more then the series did, explain more facts that needed to be answered and try to get you to understand this whole complex...Like in EOE in the end they were telling you everything making the whole story straight in the end they answer all the questions you just need to under stand it...
jeopardy
10-10-2004, 05:19 AM
hmm.. doesn't shinji strangle asuka at the very end of the movie btw? i seem to remember that he does..
i have heard another version, that what happens in the anime is what goes on inside shinji's head during the movie.. not sure which one is correct though.
otakufan
10-10-2004, 05:27 AM
hmm.. doesn't shinji strangle asuka at the very end of the movie btw? i seem to remember that he does..
He does, but it is more to ensure that he was alive than actually trying to kill her. If he was able to feel guilty for her death, that'd prove to him that he was still alive and able to feel pain.
Luckily, she stopped him before he could finish the job, proving that she could feel it as well and keeping Shinji from suffering and grieving alone for who knows how long.
jeopardy
10-10-2004, 06:55 AM
i was quite confused about one thing though, why was it asuka? i'd have guessed that it would have been rei myself.. i mean i got the impression throughout the series that he had a crush or something on her.
kyubinaruto75
10-10-2004, 12:57 PM
ooo arigato!!! still kinda confusing tho isnt it?? ::off to watch the movie::
dspr8_rugged
10-13-2004, 01:31 AM
What I hate about NGE is that fact that they feature a lot of philosophical crap. End of Eva featured a lot of this. I mean, NGE as a series was reviewed as a "very good anime - you better watch this is you're an anime fan...". But the use of a lot of incomprehensible philosophy - is THAT good?! And I only think that the existence of bishies like Asuka and Rei got some (not all) of the viewers of this series, not to forget that gay pilot of the EVA-01.
At first, NGE got my interest because I thought it was a mecha anime. Eventually, when the next episodes became a little weird and confusing, I suddenly lost interest.
"What the heck was that?!", I kept asking myself.
In the end, I despised NGE because if its very unappropriate end and unforgiving philosophy (that left me depressed for days...).
That's all. Good day and peace out! :)
jquchiha
10-17-2004, 05:50 AM
Evangelion is one of my favorite anime, maybe the second best, after naruto. But it was too short...I love Rei, she's awesome.
ahheng21
10-17-2004, 05:55 AM
i dun like it at all.... boring is the word to samurize the anime
as boring as rahxephon
Hayate
10-17-2004, 10:15 AM
Great series, I wasn't too bothered about the ending of the series. But the EoE ending was the best haha. . damn what a movie. Anyways this is probably my favourite series and was one of the first I watched when I got into anime. . .
ttestagr
10-27-2004, 01:00 PM
rahzephon was a complete rip off of eva...
this is the best series, and as for shinji and asuka being the only ones to surive, anno put in quite a bit of symbolism to show that rei survived as well. if you remember, she was incomplete, lillith's soul in a human/angel body. she united with lillith and became complete during the movie, but anno put in the part with lilliths head getting cut in have as symbolism that rei and lillith had seperated again
is the pick of my sig of that serie :/
i liked to fined some more of that but i couldnt because i didnt know the name of the anime serie where the pic came from but i suspect it is this 1, or am i wrong :confused:
kyubinaruto75
10-27-2004, 06:54 PM
i need to find end of evangelion... T_T i can find it nowere.. i have everythign else on dvd
demon-wind-ninja
10-27-2004, 06:57 PM
i hated evangelion whats his name was to whiny he just quit and quit and quit like 7 times i just didn't like it. sorry if i offend you guys who liked this series but it was so stupid at first it was cool but that was it. I liked the movie though =D
NGE was my first ever anime series ^^v
Am so psyked about the rl movie that they're making of it! imagine, rl Evangelions... :D :D
how come none of you have mentioned 'Death;Rebirth'? even tho it's kinda odd, it is kind of like an 27th ep. a very long ep. ;)
demon-wind-ninja
10-27-2004, 07:23 PM
they already have a movie ryu
cooldark
10-29-2004, 10:01 PM
NGE rocks! :cool:
Bellium
10-29-2004, 10:04 PM
Death and Rebirth was basicly a recap then alittle into the real movie at the end of it, EVA was also my first anime ever, still love it ;)
mcmaster
10-29-2004, 11:02 PM
i think its a very good anime. definitely one of my top 10 favorits the end is a bit peculiar but it is very well done. however it is not everyones cup of tea. if you like mecha stuff and prefer animes that are more thought provoking and indepth thenyou will enjoy this great anime. But its definitely not for audiences who enjoy simpler or cute stories or ones with happy endings.
As for the post above, if you dont like EVA you probably wont like rahxephon. however, if you like EVA, you will probably enjoy rahxephon. Some think at first its just a copy of EVA. Even the battle music sounds like EVA music, but its way different and just as "your confused the entire show" But, its a great show. its complex, powerful, intellectual, and very well dont overall. i recommend all EVA fans check it out.
HinataFanBoy
10-29-2004, 11:11 PM
ah my first anime :p I got the box set and the movie, third most goriest anime/manga ive seen/read, absolutely loved it
TrendyNinja
10-31-2004, 11:33 AM
NGe was my 1st anime.Saw it a year ago and can't get over it.I still listen to the Beginning OST A Cruel Angel Thesis every day.I just loved the show.
jarlaxle1771
10-31-2004, 12:07 PM
the best thing abt eva was rei
Kagemaru
11-17-2004, 05:35 PM
I've just seen the first 40 minutes of 'The death of evangelion' movie
The scene where Asuka and EVA-02 were ripped apart made me a little sick, call me strange if you must, but it really did.
Naruto_Uzumaki
11-17-2004, 07:37 PM
who has played the game for N64?
blind51de
11-17-2004, 11:05 PM
^ Probably nobody else. You got a link?
Anyways, I love almost everything about Eva. It's got so much to it that makes it worth watching over and over. It really was a breakthrough series, not only as a giant robot anime but as an anime in general, it really had a serious and intricately philosophical side. You can't help but obsess over it, especially if you're adept at seeing hidden meanings.
Oh, and ADV created a movie branch that's going to produce the live action movie version of Neon Genesis Evangelion (and its possible sequels). Of course, it will not be a straight adaptation at least in terms of characters. But it looks to be very good, even judging by the INITIAL (remember that! the names on the art are not official, since no script details are known) concept art by the same company who did the concept art for the Lord of the Rings movie. A lot of you are behind the times, it seems, so here: http://eva.trivialbeing.net/
Long Shot Hero
11-18-2004, 01:09 AM
i heard theyre making pre evangelion before the contact on antartiaca im not sre though i heard it from a guy in a anime/game shop
omg and did u see that new evangelion unit 1 suit its so awesome i cant wait to see if theres a model of it somewhere her where i live
Drifa
11-18-2004, 01:09 AM
Shinji and Asuka are not the only ones left alive. A good 10 minutes of dialogue prior to the beach scene is all about how the rest of humanity can come back if they want...we only happen to see Shinji and Asuka. Presumably, Misato and Ritsuko can come back as well, even though they died pre-3I.
Yup, they left a few MAJOR hints. Rei said that if people had the will to live, they'd come back, and Yui said that all humans have a will to live. Basically I think that's what they said. Mind you, are we really certain that Rei and Misato aren't still alive some way? At the end, Asuka's bandages were in the same position as Rei's were at the beginning of the series, and her eyes where brown, the same colour as Misato's. Maybe humanity wasn't destroyed. Maybe it was all fused into one being, and that was just Shinji's idea of heaven (man that boy needs a life)
This was my first real anime (provided you don't count Sailor Moon and Pokemon). I think I was about 8 when I saw it, and I was instantly drawn in. Mainly because of the amazingly animated battle scenes. Then as I got older, I began to understand the show more and get more out of it. Definately one of my favourites, a bit overrated maybe, but it's still a great show. The first half is anyway. Anno left the show after the halfway point due to 'personal reasons'. I think I read somewhere he had a breakdown. Then they ran out of money and had to do eps 25 & 26 on a very limited budget. The two movies were what they had orginally intended to do. They made after Anno started receiving death threats...
I adore End of Eva, after viewing 25/26, I wanted to know how Misato and Ritsuko died. And what the hell was happening. But mainly how they died. The movie answered that for me. Misato's death is one of my all-time favourite scenes in an anime. Actually, NGE provides a lot of scenes for that list. It's a great show. From the beginning you can tell it's special. It mixes action, humour, romance, drama and philosophy perfectly at the beginning.
kevin77
11-18-2004, 02:47 AM
I loved that anime too, altho i didn't quite catch the ending. I just didn't understand why Shinji tried to stangle Asuka at the end and suddenly stops, and then Asuka tells him that he's an idiot....
And, Drifa, thx for giving some insight about the movie. Now i'm gonna go rewatch the ending coz i didn't notice Asuja had brown eyes the first time around.
soundnin_Lopaka
11-19-2004, 12:37 AM
twas my first real anime. by real i mean not uber-edited by 4kids. i still havent seen EoE (curse you blockbuster!). also, my friend had shown me only ep. 25/26 so i was like "wtf mate? lemme see the rest!" and he was like "l0lz. pwned!" so i went to blockbuster and rented the dvds.
EMPRA
11-19-2004, 03:26 AM
In the end it shows that shinji understands and has a reason to go on living so0 he has a new life and he understands his problems and struggls...
blind51de
11-19-2004, 12:35 PM
If you mean the TV ending, it's actually supposed to show how Complementation gradually forced him to desire his life to continue. It's both serene in that Shinji's character finally mends, but chilling in the context that he's been twisted.
Many think Episode 26 takes place mentally during a split second before Shinji is reduced to LCL. That all characters undergo the same type of trial to change themselves to a more happy state, and let their AT Fields drop.
Kagemaru
11-20-2004, 07:23 AM
So that's that liquid...
EMPRA
11-20-2004, 07:54 AM
If you mean the TV ending, it's actually supposed to show how Complementation gradually forced him to desire his life to continue. It's both serene in that Shinji's character finally mends, but chilling in the context that he's been twisted.
Many think Episode 26 takes place mentally during a split second before Shinji is reduced to LCL. That all characters undergo the same type of trial to change themselves to a more happy state, and let their AT Fields drop.
Yer but isnt it more towards Shinji? Cauz he looses all hopes in his life...
anbupeter
01-02-2005, 06:53 PM
poor shinji he is so tormented throught out all of the series and movies....... and then he just kills everybody except asuka. P.s he dosen't kill her all the way he just strangles her then stops before he kills her, remember when asuka touches shinji on the cheek? shinji snaps out of his anger and stops,
it has to do with god and the destuction of man kind that is what neon genisis is about just thought you all should know if you did not know before. :smile-big
Forsaken
01-02-2005, 09:25 PM
i was quite confused about one thing though, why was it asuka? i'd have guessed that it would have been rei myself.. i mean i got the impression throughout the series that he had a crush or something on her.
Possible spoiler: Wasn't Rei a sort of recreation or clone of Shinji's mother, Yui? That would have been odd... major Oedipus complex there.
kyubinaruto, I share your confusion with the ending. With the entire series actually.
kevin77
01-04-2005, 12:49 AM
Well, i also went WTF during the last 2 ep of the series, so i just went to see end of eva.
Now, in the series, Shinji does accept the human complementation project. But does that kill humanity or does it rather allow humanity to live on forever? Coz i'm pretty sure Shinji's mom and dad started the project for the good of humanity.
In EoE, I don't think ONLY Asuka and Shinji survived. I've read somewhere that humans who have to will to live will be reborn from the LCL sea (or whatever that sea is called)
I also thought this anime was more religious than philosophical.
niceguy645
01-04-2005, 01:05 AM
Note: after the anime series, the director recived tons of hate mail criticizing him so he relesed End of Evangelion which was basically a big FU to everyone that sent him hate mail also if you freeze frame at certain parts of the movie and if you can read japanese then you can see all the hate mail that everyone sent him so;
End of Evangelion = Major Screw You
Ark 16.5
01-05-2005, 05:28 PM
To see the how evangelion realy ends, you need to see the End of Evangelion.
Chillin
01-05-2005, 08:15 PM
I'm probably like one of ten people in the entire world that liked the ending to both the TV series and the movie. I did prefer the movie's ending. It was a shocker though I'll tell you that much.
Hattori~Hanzo
01-06-2005, 12:58 AM
Yeah, the ending was really confusing. Doesn't really make sense to me.
Human Complementation Project = Major Crap
NGE was good but could have been a whole lot better if the ending and plot makes more sense. It's a shame really.
Ark 16.5
01-06-2005, 09:44 AM
Yes, I diden't get it either.
Does anyone know where i can get neon genesis evangelion either off bitorrent or direct download?
I'm looking for something that's small in size but still has good quality
PLEASE HELP ME
crabman
01-22-2005, 12:25 AM
Lol, good luck, i've got some cds of it, their small but uh... quality is pretty bad. Try to look for it at your local library if all you want is to watch it.
nah, i want a copy of it and i cant find it anywhere
crabman
01-22-2005, 12:35 AM
Ya, adv is pretty bad about bootleg anime. Um... www.sundevildvd.com i think you can get it there for like 30. Try Exeem. or try searching around with filezilla, look for a good ftp worst comes to worst use kazaa lite.
kyubinaruto75
01-25-2005, 07:01 PM
o.O ... i think u woudlnt be able to find it anywere. its been out for awhile (licensed) so u priobably wouldnt find ne from bittorrent. why dont u jus buy it? its pretty old so its not goign to cost as much and u ccan get it in box sets. i have the dvds
Jackal Iscariot
01-25-2005, 07:11 PM
DC+ ;)
hehe...i got it all...
go_squall
07-05-2005, 11:29 PM
any NGE fans?
Ah, the old days for me! NGE was awesome! Although, I usually watched the show with a confused expression and half the time my jaws were hanging, it definitely left a mark on me.
Dannyz
07-06-2005, 01:46 AM
nge is ten years old yet still holds up nicely with today's anime. there is a fc that is dedicated to it, so you may want to check it out.
NGE is definitly one of my all time favorites. I've rewatched the series about 948320394 times and it never gets old. It's really sucessful at leaving an impression on the watcher. I believe a few episodes had me shaking at the end.
Kucheeky Badkuya
07-06-2005, 04:26 PM
I use to love this show but than I saw more animes and I reliazed that N.G.E is overrated. Its not really that good. Shinji gets really annoying after like the 10 episode, some episodes were good but most of them were okay. A decent series but not the best.
HinataFanBoy
07-06-2005, 04:26 PM
yup, theres an FC here too, im gonna buy the platinum version when it comes out in a box set
staradderdragoon
07-06-2005, 10:54 PM
im a fan. i only have the first 2 on platinum though. its one of my favorite. i love how it makes u think
TenshiOni
07-27-2005, 05:25 AM
Merged all threads about the anime masterpiece, Neon Genesis Evangelion! Carry on!
Uchiha_Sasuke_12
07-28-2005, 09:08 AM
yeah, i got really sucked into the plot. very twisty. i got all confused with the movie and stuff and had to get some explanations from some of my anime guru's to understand. i heard that they ran out of money and that's why some episodes where really wack in graphics, but still, it turned out awesome!
Yeah, the budget for this was really screwed up. I heard that's one of the reasons the TV ending was the way it was and later on the movie came out to compensate for that. Evangelion will always be one of my top 5 animes ever and Misato and Asuka will always be one of my top 5 female characters ever.
Keele
08-11-2005, 03:52 AM
i apologise if this has already been posted
surely one of the greatest anime's ever and at the same time one of the strangest espescially the ending of the series and the movie
ĪNaruto-KunĪ
08-11-2005, 04:15 AM
Overall...it was a great series...crappy ending/movie. I wish there was more to it though.
HinataFanBoy
08-11-2005, 04:31 AM
movie ending and tv ending were different, one focused on the characters n the other on evas and the mecha fights, they both had their strong points and weak points as endings, but it is an AWSOME series, gotta find out when the platnum box set comes out...
Keele
08-11-2005, 04:35 AM
the platinum is already out but i really can't be bothered to get it as i have the whole series and movie on dvd
Chopstickx
08-11-2005, 11:46 AM
hmm ive always wanted to watch this series, but then a friend dis-reccomended it for me o_- ive heard good things about this though...
The Space Cowboy
08-11-2005, 02:06 PM
Eva...is kinda overrated, and kinda disturbing. In my personal opinion, it's brilliantly executed, with horrible content.
Keele
08-16-2005, 07:34 AM
just blew away some cobwebs on my dvd and watched volume 6 - it contained the episode where eva 1 goes berserker,that is the best fight in the whole of evangelion espescially when the eva rips of the angels arm and regenerates itself and starts eating the angel :amuse
Irkhan
08-23-2005, 03:57 AM
That scene was awesome. The fight scene between Asuka and 9 Eva's in The End of Evangelion was another great one.
Pervhermit
08-23-2005, 04:21 AM
personally i thought it was the worse anime ever. terribly plot. crummy character development and every character suffered from bi-polar disease. If you establish a character as fun loving and carefree and happy and nice. you can't have her killing ruthlessly 2 episodes later. bah. i could rant forever about this...and i have on other posts. but i'll save you the drama..definatly wouldn't recommend watching this now, or in the future.
EndlessRain
08-23-2005, 12:57 PM
Eheh i loved it. :oh one of my favs since i can keep on watching the series over and over and never get bored..plus their OST rawks.
Irkhan
08-23-2005, 07:58 PM
No idea how many times I've watched the series, the movies, and listened to the soundtrack. Everything is great!
Religion, cabala, bipolar disorder, it's all mixed in this serie, and I love it!
Not a Ninja
08-23-2005, 08:27 PM
The thing really holding this show back was Shinji. My urge to kill rises every time he says "I mustn't run away". Other than that the only really noticable problem was the poor pacing, with too much time given to some events and not enough given to others. Am I the only one who preferred the TV ending to the movies?
Irkhan
08-24-2005, 12:29 AM
Shinji is the greatest looser of all animes ever. He can fight because, actually, his mother is commanding EVA 01, not him.
I think the film has more action, people like this.
Raistlin-sama
08-24-2005, 02:19 PM
Let me quote what I posted on another forum, and also add a little, if it works for you, the more power to you. But personaly I didn't find it that "deep"
Well, I'm not saying that there is alot of anime that is deeper since their isn't. But the fact is that most anime is not really supposed to be deep, but just entertaining.
Evangelion may be deeper then your average run-off-the-mill show. But that dosen't really make it that deep. In my opinion the philosophical value of Eva is highly overrated. If I want something really deep (which I most of the times don't) I'd properly do something diffrent then watching anime (like reading a philosophy book).
This is not saying that animes can't make you think, since I do think some shows including Eva (personally I favor Serial Experiments Lain) does. But I don't think they are really that philosophical/deep, just like the matrix isn't really that deep.
Personaly I enjoy an anime with a good story, interesting plottwists, Good action and a bit of humor, the same criteria I have for books.
So I think Evangelion tries to hard being deep, when it should focus more on entertainment, which is after all the purpose of anime/manga. And if you want to get something really deep it isn't really suited either.
Since it is in the middle of two and does neither sastifactory (in my opinion) I don't find it anything but medicore.
My opinion, don't hate me for it, I'm not flaming the series, since as I said I found it medicore (Which means I enjoyed it, but nothing special)
Kucheeky Badkuya
08-24-2005, 03:52 PM
Well, NGE is a good series. But, its a highly overrated, its depressing but a depressing of boredom. Its a 26 episodes series that could've been 16 episodes.
All and all, watch RahXephon instead. The season, than the movie.
Nyquist
08-24-2005, 05:21 PM
i liked the beginning of NGE more so than the ending. At the beginning i was able to convince myself that i liked the characters, but towards the end i realized none of them, outside of maybe kaji, actually had any redeemable qualities.
EndlessRain
08-24-2005, 05:44 PM
^ Yeaa i agree..it got waay out there at the end especially w/ the instrumentality project thing. Tho Rei still rakws.
Keele
08-25-2005, 06:53 AM
personally i thought it was the worse anime ever. terribly plot. crummy character development and every character suffered from bi-polar disease. If you establish a character as fun loving and carefree and happy and nice. you can't have her killing ruthlessly 2 episodes later. bah. i could rant forever about this...and i have on other posts. but i'll save you the drama..definatly wouldn't recommend watching this now, or in the future.
terrible plot!:mad evangelion has one of the most solid plots in anime and your are complaining about plots on a naruto site
Blaze of Glory
09-14-2005, 03:45 AM
GReat anime... stupid main character:mad The Director practically torments him with every episode znc movie that comes out. I think the thing that freaks me out most is the last Movie EOE because it reminds me why I was afraid of Berserk.I still haven't found the EOE because everywhere it's gone.:sad But *gasp* thank god Block buster has it in stock! I'm planning to buy it when I earn my allowance or probaly waste all my money on the boxset.
Baka-san
09-14-2005, 05:23 AM
Eh, the premiere on Adult Swim was pretty good... Although I kept skipping in and out of it due to the computer being a distraction, hehe.
Blaze of Glory
09-14-2005, 06:54 PM
What time does it come on Adult swim? :wink I heard that it was gonna show in October but it never said the time.Hopefully they show both EOE and Death and Rebirth cause those were great movies and it will save me the trouble of going to rent it.
Lost profit
09-16-2005, 10:38 AM
Eva is my absolute favourit anime ever. Everything about it is perfect... except shinji. God someone really needed to kick that turds ass.
<terribly plot. crummy character development and every character suffered from bi-polar disease>
What? Are you crazy pervhermit?? Leaving aside the plot (love it or lothe it) the charater developemnt is spot on. So there messed up, but arnt we all?
Did anyone ever read the fan works on eva at eva-r.com. Highly recommended they did a great job.
Danny Lilithborne
09-18-2005, 03:01 AM
I absolutely hate this series. Someone loaned me their copy and it was so bad I involuntarily threw it in the garbage.
I don't usually ask these things but... why, Megumi Ogata, why?!
TheVileOne
09-20-2005, 01:53 AM
In case anyone didn't know, they are going to show Eva on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim.
I wonder which version they will show though. The Plantinum version or the original?
ssouske
09-20-2005, 11:01 AM
In case anyone didn't know, they are going to show Eva on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim.
I wonder which version they will show though. The Plantinum version or the original?
hmmm.... so they're showing eva in CN in the US... i wonder how long will it take for them to do the same here in asia...:oh
A7X HellKnight
11-06-2005, 03:42 AM
anyone here watch it?ive only seen a couple eps on adult swim but its an awsome show
AmenoKitarou
11-06-2005, 06:32 AM
Itz my all time favorite!!!!!
LOVE IT!!
But I'll have to warn you....you would hate the ending if you don't understand the purpose of the series...~
I liked the ending though~ XD
A7X HellKnight
11-06-2005, 08:19 AM
Itz my all time favorite!!!!!
LOVE IT!!
But I'll have to warn you....you would hate the ending if you don't understand the purpose of the series...~
I liked the ending though~ XD
okay.how many episodes are there?
funjat
11-06-2005, 09:46 AM
the std 26 eps i believe. but there is another release for the ending after the 26th one.
Wing-Zero
11-06-2005, 09:42 PM
i have seen it all and both movies
MartialHorror
11-06-2005, 10:33 PM
There are two movies?
I only saw End of Eva.
I thought it had way too much nudity.........which was sort of pointless but it was a very artistic anime and it was amazing to watch.
Shinji sort of whined a bit too much though.
I've seen most of the series.........yeah, its good.
Nakor
11-06-2005, 10:49 PM
^ death and rebirth is the other movie
MartialHorror
11-06-2005, 11:04 PM
ooooh,
when does it take place and what is it about?
Feel free to put spoilers..........
AmenoKitarou
11-09-2005, 06:22 AM
Death and Rebirth is basically a summary of all the best and essential moments of the EVA series, without the last two eps, plus the first 20 minutes of the end of EVA.
HUGE controversy sprouted over the need for this work. Some say, it is a waste of money to buy it because it's everything we've seen and something we will see anyways.
But My view is that the work was abcolutelt stunning, in that some parts were re-animated, redrawn, and some un-included detail in the series was put in. An example is Rei's first smile. Music and setting of the mood in the movie was so good. The fact that it covers the best moments and the most essential facts in EVA re-assures viewers of the series, to get them ready for the final movie I guess....because the time-lapse between the end of the original series and the release of the movies were a whole year, for some countries, 3 years.
Loved it, definitely something to watch. Music is great.
But I'll have to warn you....you would hate the ending if you don't understand the purpose of the series...~ How would you phase the purpose of the series, I would be much oblogied to hear it.....
AmenoKitarou
11-15-2005, 12:13 AM
its purpose is to shoe to inner journey of Shinji, how he grows from indecisiveness, cowardness, and self-consiousness to understanding what makes him happy.
Most people were too drawn into the action part of it which wasn't its main focus...and so, when the real thing came along to end the series everyone either didn't get it, or hated it for not being action.
Lucifer
11-15-2005, 12:29 AM
err.. I don't have Adult Swim (Cartoon NW) on TV... it's pretty sad, damn...
my favorite is 1st eva. I have seen only Eva 26 eps, Eva Death&Rebirth, End of Eva on CDs and DVDs, I have already seen End of Eva like 9+ repeatly times...
P.S. I have reading Eva Manga only scanlations... it was dropped...on licensed.
sorry, my bad english.
Last of the Uchihas
11-15-2005, 05:08 AM
anyone here watch it?ive only seen a couple eps on adult swim but its an awsome show
Itv ts the best series ever in my opinion.
To this day, its the series people try to copy, but can't surpass it.
.
sunshine and gasoline
11-15-2005, 01:39 PM
Evangelion was an awesome watch and I loved it. One of my first animes to watch and the reason why I got hooked to anime in general.
The serias and the movie should be considered masterpieces, and no they are not overrated no matter what people say.
Encronian
11-15-2005, 05:31 PM
i always considered evangelion one of the essentials. definately watch the whole series, multiple times, you'll pick up new stuff every time. also pay attention to the opening credits so much is told in the "random" pictures that you'll be amazed you missed the meaning in them when things start getting explained and revealed later on.
AmenoKitarou
11-16-2005, 07:05 AM
it is the best series ever in my opinion.
To this day, its the series people try to copy, but can't surpass it.
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Ohhh~!!!! I agree with you totally!!!
definitely the best in my opinion too~ and was the main reason I became an anime fan...
I've watched the thing over 40 times now...and I'm still discovering new details....
and OMG u are so rite about ppl copying and shyt....*cough*Rah-Xephon*cough*:mad
but they can't possibly surpass the emotion and depth in eva~:amuse
starwolf
11-16-2005, 09:00 AM
although i disagree about what the purpose of the series was, i did think it was amazing. i thought the implicit message of the series (excepting the last 2 episodes, which were about the specific characters) and especially end of evangelion was more about the human condition and its varying natures, especially cruelty to others (think the last scene in end of evangelion). not only was the plot amazingly creative, but it was told in a way that was visually stunning with numerous treats for those who have studied religion. i feel like that series has so much to offer that no one will ever completely understand every element of it. the death part of death and rebirth was marvelously edited, reminded me of certain avant grade cinema like bruce conner. definately one of the top 3, maybe even the top anime ive seen. if i made anime, i would be severely disheartened after watching that series, i mean, how could anyone ever hope to make such a staggering work like that? anyway, its early in the morning and i am rambling :P~~
Robotkiller
11-16-2005, 09:19 AM
there gonna be a live action movie.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=3123
Lucifer
11-16-2005, 09:45 AM
there gonna be a live action movie.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=3123
it's already 4 or 5 years ago on news.
Robotkiller
11-16-2005, 09:51 AM
it's already 4 or 5 years ago on news.
well I didnt think everybody knew.
Megaharrison
11-16-2005, 12:31 PM
Evangelion is a crrrrrrrazy little series, you need to see the movies Death & Rebirth and End of Evangelion to experience the insanity.
AmenoKitarou
11-17-2005, 12:47 AM
XD......is your "crazy" and "insane" a good thing??
AmenoKitarou
11-17-2005, 12:54 AM
although i disagree about what the purpose of the series was, i did think it was amazing. i thought the implicit message of the series (excepting the last 2 episodes, which were about the specific characters) and especially end of evangelion was more about the human condition and its varying natures, especially cruelty to others (think the last scene in end of evangelion). not only was the plot amazingly creative, but it was told in a way that was visually stunning with numerous treats for those who have studied religion. i feel like that series has so much to offer that no one will ever completely understand every element of it. the death part of death and rebirth was marvelously edited, reminded me of certain avant grade cinema like bruce conner. definately one of the top 3, maybe even the top anime ive seen. if i made anime, i would be severely disheartened after watching that series, i mean, how could anyone ever hope to make such a staggering work like that? anyway, its early in the morning and i am rambling :P~~
Seee!!!
THIS is exactly what so great about evangelion!!
I have my interpretations and you have yours....and it affected me personally differently from how it affected you personally~!!
It is so open to interpretion~ and its great!!!:laugh
There are so many layers to the stroy!!
1. EVA vs angel+ third impact
2. Shinji's self realisation
3. Humans vs humans.
4. the Creator vs the created..
5. other character's self realisation
forgot all the others....
Kabuto_o
11-27-2005, 04:32 PM
Evangelion is a crrrrrrrazy little series, you need to see the movies Death & Rebirth and End of Evangelion to experience the insanity.
The movie is indeed crazy in some aspects. I was pretty mind damaged after I watched the End of Evangelion, really :smile-big
The series was great but everything got really strange in the end, especially the movie, too strange didn't understand everything that much.
Amatsu
11-27-2005, 09:03 PM
meh I hated the movie as I prefer the TV ending myself.
Although now that it's on adult swim people will probably see it as mainstream now whereas it was famous for not being that...
Keele
11-28-2005, 04:15 AM
its purpose is to shoe to inner journey of Shinji, how he grows from indecisiveness, cowardness, and self-consiousness to understanding what makes him happy.
Most people were too drawn into the action part of it which wasn't its main focus...and so, when the real thing came along to end the series everyone either didn't get it, or hated it for not being action.
correct and to be honest i had to watch the ending 2 or 3 times to totally understand it
AmenoKitarou
11-30-2005, 05:13 AM
correct and to be honest i had to watch the ending 2 or 3 times to totally understand it
I first watched Evangelion when I was in year 5....and I couldn't understand the ending so I put it aside for a while....
In year 8 I revisited the series and it instantly became my favorite~
Jackal Iscariot
11-30-2005, 05:23 AM
im a big NGE-fan, love that serie ~<3
damn..was the first anime-serie i ever saw too...took my anime-virginity :oh
ps: i dont regret a thing <3
Malice
11-30-2005, 11:47 AM
It was a great series and I have to say the two end movies puplished by the company Manga were far superior to the sharpie and highlighter ending in the series, though the altertinate universe take was absolutely great. At the end of End of Eva, I thought it was simply perfect when Shinji display's the entire spectrum of human emotion and Asuka says "How disgusting" when she realizes that they have to fuck like mad rabbits to repopulate the earth.
Lacus Clyne
11-30-2005, 11:59 AM
I prefer the TV ending myself...
I thought I was the only one! I liked the movie, I just thought the TV ending better suited the series. Sure, it may have been confusing but, it was patterened after Shinji's feelings which were also confused. I saw the series as a progression of Shinji's emotions so the ending, which resolved this, fit perfectly.
Anyway, this should be in the Konoha TV section, but when I looked, there was already a thread there.
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=54680&highlight=neon+genesis
They should be merged.
Wing-Zero
11-30-2005, 08:09 PM
Well I liked both endings, I agree with Lacus on the anime ending. For the movies I liked it more, because it was more fighting and action, and I like more fighting in an anime lol >.>
Lacus Clyne
11-30-2005, 08:14 PM
Well I liked both endings, I agree with Lacus on the anime ending. For the movies I liked it more, because it was more fighting and action, and I like more fighting in an anime lol >.>
That is understandable. The Evangelions are so cool that I always love seeing more of them. I think the reasons the movies were created was so that the fans of NGE who watched it for action could be satisfied. Between the TV ending and the movies is was assured that everyone could be happy.
Lucifer
11-30-2005, 09:07 PM
actually,
I love NGE about feelings Philosophy and Psychological, not action fightning...
I was child, I really hate my father...
End of Eva is perfect movie.
<<<BIIIIIIIIIIG fan of Kaoru Nagisa and Rei Ayanami.
Anyone know that Mana Kirishima from Girlfriend of Steel for win98/PS/Saturn?..:cool she is cute.
http://www.geocities.com/tdd_evangelion/girlfriend.html
http://www.geocities.com/tdd_evangelion/C306b_1.jpg
I mustn't run away. I mustn't run away. I mustn't run away. I mustn't run away. I mustn't run away. I mustn't run away. I mustn't run away. I mustn't run away.
.....I really doubt the live action movie will get made...
It's alot like what happened with the DBZ movie....
The studio said they were considering it but never happaned for ALOT of reasons
blind51de
12-04-2005, 08:58 AM
.....I really doubt the live action movie will get made...
You do know that ADV has stated frequently that they intend to make it? And that they recently revealed they were half-way to raising the budget?
It's going to happen, the project isn't in development hell.
Encronian
12-08-2005, 11:53 PM
hey anybody knwo what happened with the game that was supposed to come out. did it come out or is it still in the workings. once again this = me being to lazy to google it
Blue_Sky_Protagonist
12-27-2005, 07:24 PM
I really like this series. I just love action animes!:amuse
AmenoKitarou
12-27-2005, 07:44 PM
I love just everything about it.
The original version captured me~
and then I watched the movie~ although it wasn't as complicated as the orginal, and it had action scenes, I liked the original ending just that little bit more because Shinji seemed to grow a little more in the original~
and then I bought the director cuts.....OH MY GODDD they looked so good!!!
and yes... I found out then the movie was the originally planned ending for the series which i thought would've been nice.~
Friend
12-27-2005, 11:00 PM
It's a good series, albeit confusing and I still haven't watched End of Evangelion. I thought The Death Rebirth thing was the ending and I was like "whaaaaaat?" but with a little internet researching I realized I was missing something.
I must come back here to form a valid opinion when I have seen the actual end.
Yami no Takeshi
12-27-2005, 11:08 PM
Eva was good.
There is no doubt in my mind of that.
But is it overrated?
Hell yes.
Rahxephon was a rip off but managed the entire thing so much better.
Especialy the episode where he ended up killing one of his best friends while she was confessing her feelings for him.
The emotion brought up by that single episode pwns the entire Eva series IMO.
Nekomimi
12-27-2005, 11:27 PM
Wow people still talk about Eva hun...Heh its been so long since ive watched my DVD's of it...
Sigh but anyway definatly one of the best anime's ever. Actually one of the first anime series I ever saw. I really dont bother trying to explain much of it to anyone...Its just one of those series that every individual person takes something different from it and thats one of its greatest strengths. :wink
AmenoKitarou
12-28-2005, 10:55 PM
Still like EVA over Rah Xephon though~ Because I like the style and artistic-ness in EVA~
gamesector
12-29-2005, 12:33 AM
Wow people still talk about Eva hun...Heh its been so long since ive watched my DVD's of it...
Sigh but anyway definatly one of the best anime's ever. Actually one of the first anime series I ever saw. I really dont bother trying to explain much of it to anyone...Its just one of those series that every individual person takes something different from it and thats one of its greatest strengths. :wink
I've been watching it all again since I got the platinum dvd's (which are still not all out here :()
blind51de
04-20-2006, 10:10 AM
Does anyone have Volume 10? PM me. I will make it worth your while.
Espada Grimmjaw
04-20-2006, 02:25 PM
Evangelion will always on the top of my list as the greatest anime of all time, I just recently bought the Platinum boxset and I still enjoy watching NGE even now as well as End of Evangelion.
guiltyspark7750
04-20-2006, 09:10 PM
I just watched it fully last night. What impressed me most of the entire series was the biblical (and jewish folklore) references that played heavily in the original and literally in the alternate ending. I really loved the music choices, being Hallelujah chorus by Handel, typically used in scenes with epiphanies, which in her case, is a dark self-realization, Beethoven's infamous 9th, an ode to Joy and the Messiah as well. Bach Air, and Jesu Joy for Man's Desiring also by Bach. Simply excellent.
Hokage Naruto
04-20-2006, 09:40 PM
After watching some great anime classics and works, than watching Neon Genesis Evangelion I have come to the conculsion that NGE is good but not godly. First off the ending, the series was doing great until the last two episodes. They were both a mess inmy opinion, they were random and there wasn't really any big clues indicating something like this will happen. I saw the movie and had some clue what was going on.
Back when this came out, I can see why its great for the animation at the time. I can't see this as a top animated film up to this date. NGE had some loveable characters, moments and symbolistic moments but everything else it didn't appeal to me. Plus, I was at the brink of hating Shinji with his wussy attitude needed to stop sooner or later.
I saw Rahxephon awhile ago. I can't really see how people compare the two since they were made years apart with much differenations. Rahxephon is about tuning the worlds togather, NGE is about saving Earth. Shinji was considered a wuss, Ayato was strong and wanted to protect the poeple close to him and give it his all. The music was better in Rahxephon and I liked it more than NGE music. Plus, BONES made Rahxephon another reason why I like it.
Overall, they are both worthy watches.
Where can I find (english) subtitles for the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion. I only want the subtitles, not the anime because I have it already.
Thanks in Advance.
Catterix
07-27-2006, 07:18 PM
So you mean... subtitles... on their own??
If not, then just search www.anidb.com for Evangelion and it'll give you a list of fansubbers.
blazingshadow
07-27-2006, 07:25 PM
ppl usually dload the anime with the subs at the same time. it's easier that way
Yes, I only want the subtitles on their own. I don't want to download several gigabytes just for the subtitles.
Until now, I haven't found anything.
Ikari Shinji
07-28-2006, 04:57 PM
Subtitles as in ADV's subtitles? They're inaccurate, and I have no idea where a script would be, Reichu has the original script, but she hasn't translated the whole thing, maybe only 4 eps or so
Vodrake
08-12-2006, 06:57 AM
Rumours have it that Anno is going to be doing some new Eva stuff.
Taken from Evamonkey:
The rumour mill is starting to heat up. Apparently a few months ago, a rumor that 4 new Eva movies were being made popped up. Three were to be re-edits of the series, and the fourth was to be new animation. The other day, Hideaki Anno posted a call for animators to work on a new feature at a studio named Khara. Incidentally, that same studio was just added to the copyright for Evangelion on Gainax's official website. From this, it can be suggested that Anno is making new Evangelion anime. In similar news, NewType is making claims that a big Evangelion scoop is coming up in the September issue.
Tantalizing is it not? The possibility that Hideaki Anno might be making more Evangelion?
Read s'more if you like.
http://www.gainax.co.jp/hills/anno/jobmain.html
Neon Genesis Evangelion animated into four movies?
There will be four movies, three movies with re-edited squences from TV series as well as some new sequences, the brand new fourth one. Just like the recent MS Gundam Z movies. The source for this information was kept secret, but there was a comment about a new project during the interview with Famitsu, could that be it?
http://forums.trivialbeing.net/index.php?showtopic=4157
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/moonphase/20060616/p6
On August 1, Evangelion director Hideaki Anno's official website was updated with job listings for key animators and production staff at a studio called Khara.
Meanwhile, Gainax's Evangelion site has added Khara to its copyright line. According to ANS, the Khara.co.jp domain is registered to Ikki Todoroki, with whom Anno performed in the 2005 film Naisu no mori.
ANS incorporates these items and two "rumors" to conclude an Evangelion film (or films) may be in the works. ANN cannot confirm the Evangelion connection.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=9318
September's Newtype Japan advertises an "extra large scoop" on Evangelion in the October issue. Whether it is related to Hideaki Anno's new project is unknown. The issue streets September 10.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=9320
NU-KazeKage
08-12-2006, 07:11 AM
eva is one of the best animes ever ..it was the second one i saw right after gundam wing when i was 10 i think and i hope to god theres more eva
Ikari Shinji
08-12-2006, 07:38 AM
September can't come soon enough, regardless of what it is, Eva fans will watch it
I'm hoping for the complete remake with added scenes and possible new ending, although a prequel seems just as likely [/spaz]
aaasss
08-12-2006, 10:38 PM
14 year olds who wanna get laid---> Evangelion in a nutshell... There are MUCH better anime out there IMO. I mean, I liked the drawing, some of the story and whatnot but the psychology was FAR too unbelievable. Like seriously... how many teenagers think like that?
By the way, the Christian symbology in this anime is admittedly just for show. So all names used like Adam, Eve, Angels etc etc, and the symbology (cross, leaves, staff) have just been picked out to make it look cooler, not for any type of religious overtones at all...
The actual 'symbology' in the anime may be from the music. And even then, you need to recognize the certain piece they are playing and really get it right there...
For example, if they play the Ode to Joy in a fight, you have to not just listen to it as a piece of background music, but wonder why they are playing the ode to JOY!
Adds a bit but not that much to the show...
Ikari Shinji
08-12-2006, 10:45 PM
14 year olds who wanna get laid---> Evangelion in a nutshell... There are MUCH better anime out there IMO. I mean, I liked the drawing, some of the story and whatnot but the psychology was FAR too unbelievable. Like seriously... how many teenagers think like that?You......really didn't understand Evangelion at all did you? It's far from unrealistic, in fact it has some of the most realistic characterization in all of the industry, take a class in psychology if you can't understand it
I mean, if you don't like it, fine, it's an opinion, but you make it seem far too shallow
aaasss
08-12-2006, 10:52 PM
Ive attempted to understand Evangelion many times... Yes, they go over a lot of common complexes. You see the oedipus and electra complex rear many times, a lot of common disorders, even stockholme syndrome in a way if you think of it, but I never found any of it adding that much...
Its not like wow... Its like wtf? Behave normal please...
Ikari Shinji
08-12-2006, 11:18 PM
Ive attempted to understand Evangelion many times... Yes, they go over a lot of common complexes. You see the oedipus and electra complex rear many times, a lot of common disorders, even stockholme syndrome in a way if you think of it, but I never found any of it adding that much...
Its not like wow... Its like wtf? Behave normal please...It's called character development, but I guess it's nothing compared to the oh so realistic development that you get from most shonen stories like Naruto :oh
EMPRA
08-13-2006, 02:31 AM
This series is certaily a fan favourite, it rates one of the best anime series ever created. There's still havent been another series to take this of my number one spot...
Affenotto
08-13-2006, 03:46 PM
Post your thoughts on the the last 2 episodes from the jap. evangelion (not in american evangelion)
shizuru
08-13-2006, 05:32 PM
when i first wathced it i was a bit confused but after a whiel of watching it over and over again i kinda got the idea of the ending... :S i think
Affenotto
08-13-2006, 05:42 PM
lol yah i think everyone is like that first time i saw it i was in a mental lul for like 3 days afterwards trying to figure it out
Prince Leon
08-13-2006, 06:55 PM
I absolutely loved the entire ending. It felt more than appropriate for the type of story that Evangelion was/is.
But in short, it was simply brilliant.
UnknownHero
08-13-2006, 07:04 PM
Watch the movie... forget which one...
But it will blow you away
Crusaious27
08-14-2006, 09:28 PM
NGE is brilliant. I love this series far more than is healthy. The TV series ending was perfect, in my opinion, and it really reached me. However, I thought the EOE ending was only just story tacked on to the true meaning of Eva, made to make money and please the rabid fans who felt that the series needed closure.
DKFize
08-14-2006, 09:48 PM
NGE is brilliant. I love this series far more than is healthy. The TV series ending was perfect, in my opinion, and it really reached me. However, I thought the EOE ending was only just story tacked on to the true meaning of Eva, made to make money and please the rabid fans who felt that the series needed closure.
I thought the TV series ending was horrible. It was practically unrelated to the plot and had no real world contact. Not to mention that it felt like a pathetic attempt at psychology made to make the watcher feel sophisticated.
Brandt
08-14-2006, 10:02 PM
The TV ending basically told the same thing as EoE, though in a less visually pleasing manner if you know what I mean. It wasn't all that great in my opinion, but I didn't find it to be that horrible. I just had to wrap my head around the message of what was being said, though even to this date I'm not sure what the exact meaning of the end is. :S
September can't come soon enough, regardless of what it is, Eva fans will watch it
I'm hoping for the complete remake with added scenes and possible new ending, although a prequel seems just as likely [/spaz]
You already know my thoughts on it, but I'll just state 'em here for kicks. :laugh
I want a prequel. If it's the four movies remake that has been rumored since earlier this summer, then I'll be seriously disappointed as it feels as if Anno is tossing aside the artistic integrity that both the television series ending and The End of Evangelion finale had. Not to mention I don't want another version, I want more insight. If it's an adaption of the Girlfriend of Steel manga (U.S. title Angelic Days), then I'm just going to laugh it off.
HK. WANT. PREQUEL.
14 year olds who wanna get laid---> Evangelion in a nutshell... There are MUCH better anime out there IMO. I mean, I liked the drawing, some of the story and whatnot but the psychology was FAR too unbelievable. Like seriously... how many teenagers think like that?
"Fourteen-year-ols who wanna get laid"? "... But the psychology was FAR too unbelievable. Like seriously... how many teenagers think like that?"?
Dismissing the depth that Anno put into his characters by your first statement is not just ignorant, but disrespectful. I don't give a damn if someone likes or dislikes this show, but when they put the show down on something that is a downright lie, I can't just idly stand by. (Sadly, due to its mass popularity, I see it criticized unjustly often enough to make me disgusted by people not even bothering to look at it objectively.)
As far the believability in the characters, they are arguably the most meaningful and realistic characters that you will find in any anime, period. If you don't think that there are teenagers who act like the ones in Evangelion, then you're a fool. It's pathetic when I see people just dismiss the main characters with Shinji just being an "emo," whiny waste of flesh, Rei being a mute with no personality, Asuka being a bitch who can't being caring at all, and Misato being a slut who only gets drunk. Haters can go running back to their cute harem anime and brawling shounen anime as far as I'm concerned, and if they're not of those types and actually like sophiscated shows but can't at least respect and appreciate Evangelion, then they're missing a lot about the anime as a whole.
By the way, the Christian symbology in this anime is admittedly just for show. So all names used like Adam, Eve, Angels etc etc, and the symbology (cross, leaves, staff) have just been picked out to make it look cooler, not for any type of religious overtones at all...
No fucking shit, Sherlock. Most of the devoted Evangelion fans already know that.
The actual 'symbology' in the anime may be from the music. And even then, you need to recognize the certain piece they are playing and really get it right there...
For example, if they play the Ode to Joy in a fight, you have to not just listen to it as a piece of background music, but wonder why they are playing the ode to JOY!
Adds a bit but not that much to the show...
... Do you have ADD?
Ive attempted to understand Evangelion many times... Yes, they go over a lot of common complexes. You see the oedipus and electra complex rear many times, a lot of common disorders, even stockholme syndrome in a way if you think of it, but I never found any of it adding that much...
Its not like wow... Its like wtf? Behave normal please...
So, to have depth and be truly meaningful, characters have to be likeable, enjoyable, and not act like so many people like we see in the world around us who are so insecure about themselves and contact with others that they use countless facades to just survive day by day?
You're an idiot if you believe that.
I thought the TV series ending was horrible. It was practically unrelated to the plot and had no real world contact. Not to mention that it felt like a pathetic attempt at psychology made to make the watcher feel sophisticated.
A pathetic attempt at psychology? How is that? Nothing presented in the television ending was really pretentious like some would say Lain or Ghost in the Shell are, and it was only something thought up at the last minute due to complications with support and budget for the anime. The original ending was scrapped and then later used in The End of Evangelion. The ending wasn't meant to be done to make it feel "sophiscated" or "mature," but to represent the end of the road for an epiphany that granted not just Shinji, but the viewers and the creator, Hidaeki Anno himself, true worth and the prospect of facing reality.
While the television series ending was absolutely awful as far as an ending to the story, it was amazingly conceived considering it was done nearly on the fly, and it is one of the best character introspections that I've frankly ever seen. Sure, it is somewhat cheesy in its presentation, but I rather enjoyed it. Then again, I appreciate it more in conjuncture with the movie, which was the perfect ending, in my opinion.
Renegade
09-24-2006, 08:00 PM
I loved this series. Unit 01 rocks my socks! :amuse
wherezmytofu
10-18-2006, 05:35 PM
looks like i was posting in the wrong thread, anyhow. is there any thing special with all the students in the class not haivngt a "real" mother figure and being candidates to be eva pilots?
~Zaxxon~
10-18-2006, 09:42 PM
awesome series!...:amuse
awesome movies!!!...smile-big
(and Asuka is strangely alluring...:oh )
KingdomMan
10-18-2006, 10:04 PM
By far one of the best Animes I watched, and the Movies are very good as well.
wherezmytofu
10-19-2006, 12:33 AM
hmm did i just miss interpret the intro scene of EOE or did shinji just wack off to asuka laying unconsious in the hospital bed?!? wtf?
TheBlindHyuuga
10-19-2006, 12:37 AM
:jk.............
Comic Book Guy
10-19-2006, 12:38 AM
hmm did i just miss interpret the intro scene of EOE or did shinji just wack off to asuka laying unconsious in the hospital bed?!? wtf?
No, you didn't mis-interpret the scene.
Ikari Shinji
10-19-2006, 12:45 AM
hmm did i just miss interpret the intro scene of EOE or did shinji just wack off to asuka laying unconsious in the hospital bed?!? wtf?*headdesk*
I swear to god, if I have to explain why it happened...
wherezmytofu
10-19-2006, 01:04 AM
god i hate this shinji character, now he is all emo whinny bitch -_-...
askuka redeemed herself tho, she is pwned every1
question about the ending of EOE, was that asuka that washed up on shore or was it a hybrid asuka/misoto/rei....cuz it was asuka with reis typical bandage and eyepatch with what seemd to be misoto's voice actor
Renegade
10-19-2006, 05:20 PM
What does EOE stand for?
wherezmytofu
10-19-2006, 05:25 PM
end of evangelion
Renegade
10-19-2006, 05:27 PM
end of evangelion
Ooooh. :sweat
AestheticizeAnalog
10-19-2006, 09:22 PM
god i hate this shinji character, now he is all emo whinny bitch -_-...
askuka redeemed herself tho, she is pwned every1
question about the ending of EOE, was that asuka that washed up on shore or was it a hybrid asuka/misoto/rei....cuz it was asuka with reis typical bandage and eyepatch with what seemd to be misoto's voice actor
Shinji is not a whiny emo bitch. How would a regular 14 year old who happens to be quite timid react to being forced to pilot a giant mecha and given the responsibility of saving the world from an alien race. He is not a stereotypical main character that fights for "good" just because that is the right thing to do.
I love Evangelion and EoE, it is not my favourite anime but it is definitely up there. It is a very profound and interesting anime. I dont know if I am the only one. But I loved the last two episodes of the series, they were meant to rmainly resolve shinji's issues. And also allow him to come to grips with the fact that life might just be worth living and realize that a world where he could not be hurt and could not hurt others would not be exactly ideal.
Ikari Shinji
10-24-2006, 02:33 AM
10-19-06 (9:29AM EDT)---- World Exclusive: Rebuild Of Evangelion Updates
Tonight we met up with Evangelion Producer Toshimichi Ootsuki in Akihabara. According to Ootsuki-san the "contents" for the "1st part" of the new Rebuild Of Evangelion movies is now complete. The animation staff is also very close to being fully assembled. Building on past hints (the cover image of the October, 2006 issue of Newtype Magazine) Kaworu Nagisa and Rei Ayanami will be central characters in this new story. The theme of the "first part" movie will feature the characters in a school setting prior to the arrival of the angels.Here are some very hot news (well, rather old, from this years Connichi
convention in Kassel, Germany, in September this year) directly out of Sadamoto's
mouth:
- There will be 3 movies not 4. (They insisted on it.)
- GAINAX will have indeed nothing to do with it.
- It seems Anno came up with the idea. (That's a good thing I believe. First it
wouldn't be the same EVA if GAINAX but not Anno was involved. And I could
believe that he won't do it because of the money but rather because he wants to correct his work once more, at least I hope so.)
- Sadamoto and Tsurumaki will be in the team again.
- The 2nd and 3rd movie will center around EoE - not the TV ending. (Well, a sequel to EoE?? oO wtf??)
- (This isn't from the con, I read it somewhere else, but it sounded plausible)
The 3 movie will be again split into two parts. (So there we have the 4 movies
again. I could imagine 3a will retell new movie 1 and 2 plus give a preview of 3b.)
Here is something about the manga:
- Sadamoto only thinks of the next chapter he's working on. But he plans to
finish the manga with volume 12 or 13.
- He will kind of mix the TV ending and EoE in the manga with an emphasis on EoE if I remember it right.
- The first angel is definitely Adam. The second one is ... Well he leaves it
Anno - who wasn't present. (It seemed, that he doesn't know it either, or Anno wanted him to keep it as a secret.)Discuss/complain
SwimmingTrunks
11-10-2006, 07:33 AM
Hay guys which are the channels where can i download NGE as well as EoE off irc? thx
wherezmytofu
11-10-2006, 08:25 PM
i just grabbed the torrent off mininova
Blaze of Glory
01-21-2007, 09:47 PM
A couple questions y'all? Why is Shinji so damn whiny and why did he pass out in End of Evangelion when he saw a giant naked Kaworu?
Also why did everyone start turning into orang soup when they saw Rei and she transformed into someone else?
megasajan
01-24-2007, 02:00 PM
A couple questions y'all? Why is Shinji so damn whiny and why did he pass out in End of Evangelion when he saw a giant naked Kaworu?
Also why did everyone start turning into orang soup when they saw Rei and she transformed into someone else?
You only watched EoE,didnīt you? Watch the Anime 2 or 3 Times till you unterstand what is going on there.
Also i dont unterstand why this Thread isnīt getting any Feedbacks since the new Movies were announced :cry oh well,lets start discussing :nuts
NGE was my one of the first Anime i watched,3 or 4 Years ago,and was depressed weeks after when i unterstood the meaning behind it (the deeper one).Iīm writning this because,as we all know,its THE best anime ever produced (in my Eyes,so stop Flaming :notrust ) My concern is,that the New Movies are only made to make Money,and to Boots the Hype of NGE again.
What i wanna say is,NGE was made with very little Money and probably with a very unstable Hideaki Anno. Now he is stable (i think...) and has (very) much Money,so it......uh,well,not as good as NGE,or probably destroy it. Yīknow what i mean?
Gah,dont know how to say it:cry Canīt unterstand my last few sentences myself.
HELP ME!! :oh
RodMack
01-24-2007, 05:23 PM
I've only seen the series so far. I still need to watch EOE. I found it pretty good and enjoyable, even though the last 2 episodes confused the hell outta me.
megasajan
01-24-2007, 11:26 PM
I've only seen the series so far. I still need to watch EOE. I found it pretty good and enjoyable, even though the last 2 episodes confused the hell outta me.
Watch EoE,think about what Shinji discovered for himself,watch everything again,be happy or depressed for weeks until you feed on every FanFiction outta there :nuts
...my Opinion...
In short,you canīt understand what the Anime wants to say to you if you only watch once. And you have to think about it at the End.
wherezmytofu
02-28-2007, 02:39 AM
dub = lose
Ennoea
03-03-2007, 09:30 PM
Okay if theres already thread about this then im sorry but I just watched Nge and I didn't understand the ending one bit? What I thought happened was the third impact and shinji decided the fate of the world? I think...OOOO iM so confused ARRGHHH!!!:mad
Also what I dont get is where do the angels come from? Alternate futures is what my brother said.
megasajan
03-04-2007, 12:36 AM
It was TI,but it was aborted before it could finish completely. I,ll put the Reason why in Spoiler,better that way :P
Shinji realized that Pain,Love,Sadness,all the Emotions that makes Humans unique and different from other Humans,are a Part of Life that you have to accept.TI is something,that a few Humans wanted,so they dont need to feel this things anymore,because you dont need them as a whole beeing (the Primal Soup aka LCL) Because everyone could feel what the others feel and think,there would be nothing that you dont know of the others. But for that,you have to give up your Body,your Soul what belonged only to you,and is unique to you. Shinji grow up/was made to accept the Fact,that he is wordless,that he sould be better of dead and that everything you do would hurt you or others. He was made to accept TI. He realized before it was to late,that all negative is a part of your Life,as is are the positive things. And you can only experience this if you are your own person.
Phew,i hope that it doesnt sound to shabby,didnt think of all that things for awhile.
Ero_Gaki
03-04-2007, 12:55 AM
In Japan, many of the fans were not too happy with the end of the series because of how confusing and anti-climactic it was. Hideki Anno even received death threats in the mail as a result. He responded by coming out with End of Evangelion. It's an alternate ending to the series, replacing the last two episodes. But some believe that it sort of suppliments those two episodes because of the imagery that flashes across the screen in the original ending are present as events in the movie that leads up to those flashing still shots.
Taleran
03-04-2007, 12:57 AM
CONGRATULATIONS!
megasajan
03-04-2007, 01:46 AM
I too think Episode 25/26 are the same as EOE,because they mean the same thing in the end,only with different settings and endings. Though EOE is easier to understand than the last 2 Episodes. In my Eyes anyway.
Most complain that even the Movie left to many things unanswered and is to confusing. I think it was the best way to end it.because you have to think about it,hard,to understand the meanings behind it,which isnt very easy,mind you :laugh
Btw i hope the new Movies that are coming out this year (partly a summary of the Story,the ending and something like: "what comes after" if i remember right) dont destroy what makes NGE...well,unique.
Firedraconian
03-04-2007, 03:07 AM
No one gets it.
It's like anime puberty to watch NGE and be confused by it.
~Zaxxon~
03-04-2007, 03:30 AM
Watch End of Evangelion. :P
staradderdragoon
03-04-2007, 07:37 PM
^true that. EoE makes the most sense out of them all. if u dont understand that, then go read a in depth analysis of it online. it's really quite simple
first, the angels come from no where. no one knows. heaven maybe? anyhow, stuff like that, ur just gonna have to understand through the series. like how adam is the first angel, and how kaworu was an angel made in the image of adam, aka refernce to the bible. its weird stuff like that. as for the end, shinji decides, do i wanna be a pussy, and restart the whole world, and history, or keep it as it is and live life as it was meant to be.
megasajan
03-04-2007, 08:01 PM
^true that. EoE makes the most sense out of them all. if u dont understand that, then go read a in depth analysis of it online. it's really quite simple
first, the angels come from no where. no one knows. heaven maybe? anyhow, stuff like that, ur just gonna have to understand through the series. like how adam is the first angel, and how kaworu was an angel made in the image of adam, aka refernce to the bible. its weird stuff like that. as for the end, shinji decides, do i wanna be a pussy, and restart the whole world, and history, or keep it as it is and live life as it was meant to be.
Theres a Theory,that the Angels were made by Adam,because he grew jealous of Lilith,who createt Humans after he destroyed her first creations (First Impact).He made them to destroy Humans if they cant defeat them in a set Time.Since Lilith couldnīt directly help,she left Instructions in form of the Dead Sea Scolls....Thats what i remember.
There was a written summary of the Religion who is the Base of NGE. Dont know where it was again...hmm
staradderdragoon
03-04-2007, 09:30 PM
well, ur correct about the angels coming from adam and humans from lilith, but i dont think the jealousy thing is right.
Batman
03-04-2007, 11:07 PM
Are you kidding me, the creator doesn't even understand the end of that series.
megasajan
03-05-2007, 02:27 AM
Are you kidding me, the creator doesn't even understand the end of that series.
And if i tell you that....
...NGE is an explanation/or a way to understand "the Meaning of Life"? If you think about it enough,you might come to that conclussion.I did. Theres a Reason why that Anime is unique and whorshiped like Jesus himself.
About that jealousy part,theres an Explanation too. Though there was something about rebelling against his Creator (God),that has to do something with it.
I dont want to go further than that,because i could be wrong until i find that damn "Chaos Theory",which it was called i think, again.
megasajan
03-05-2007, 02:39 AM
Sorry for doublepost,but i think this should be interesting for someone who wants a Backround and/or wants to understand more about NGE;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelion#Inspiration_and_symbolism
mystictrunks
03-05-2007, 03:06 AM
This is the reason Eva is an over rated anime. The lamest ending of any series EVER.
Firedraconian
03-05-2007, 04:14 AM
Face it, he just made the most confusing, nonsensical anime possible, which leaves it completely open to interpretation and allows the fans to fill in whatever meaning they think is coolest.
Comic Book Guy
03-05-2007, 10:12 AM
The 4 upcoming Evangelion movies/specials will hopefully clarify much, especially the 4th one being a new perspective on the ending.
Red Sand
03-05-2007, 12:08 PM
The press release to the movies can be found here:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-02-20/hideaki-anno-releases-statement-about-new-evangelion-movies
shizuru
03-05-2007, 05:38 PM
watch end of evangleion and also death and rebirth... i hope the next movies that are coming out in the following years will explain it better cos i still dont get it to this day...
Ennoea
03-05-2007, 07:19 PM
I watched EoE and I guess most of it made sense but I still have a few questions. Where did the angels come from? How come the 15th was sent by Seele? Why is Shinji such a shit?
The ending was really bad I mean how are shinji and Asuka suppoused to survive theyre the sole reason (because of their stupidity), that humans should die in the first place.
megasajan
03-06-2007, 04:07 AM
I watched EoE and I guess most of it made sense but I still have a few questions. Where did the angels come from? How come the 15th was sent by Seele? Why is Shinji such a shit?
The ending was really bad I mean how are shinji and Asuka suppoused to survive theyre the sole reason (because of their stupidity), that humans should die in the first place.
Phew,have my work cut out here :P I answer the best i can...
Lilims (Humans) were createt by Lilith. The Angels were createt by Adam. The 15th (you mean the 17th?) was made from Adams Embryo by Seele (just like Rei,but without Human DNA i believe),from what is written in The Dead Sea Scrolls. Shinji was made/raised/construcet this way by his Father,so that he is in the right mindset when the Time comes. The only thing Gendo couldnīt foresee was the growth and finally betrayel by Rei and the love from Yui to her Son. That Shinji an Asuka are the only Survivors isnt exactly true. There are the first ones who came out of the Sea of LCL because they were the Key-Factors of Instrumentality (Shinji at least,not sure exactly of Asuka,but she played a Big Role,guess why...) Shinji had the Chance to accept,or to abort. The Conversations with Rei,Koaru and his Mother were a Set Up to decide if Mankind deserves to Die (forever in the Sea of LCL/Primal Soup in the Black Moon) or to be Reborn (THIS Choice was shown at the End of Episode 26) Shinji chose neither. He let Mankind choose for themselves if they want to Return to their true Forms or remain as LCL on Earth till thei decide to return. Shinji was the First. Asuka came Second,because she was in her EVA and could make her Choice too,unlike the Rest who were forced.
Hope that made Sense :huh
staradderdragoon
03-06-2007, 06:22 PM
it makes sense. the thing with NGE is that its supposed to be all abstract and the viewer interprets it the way they think it should be interpreted. i've noticed that people who either read the bible or know the stories in it tend to appreciate the anime more for what it is because they see the similarities and can associate with it. while pure atheists are like wtf is this crap? it definitely is one of my favorite animes.
megasajan
03-06-2007, 09:44 PM
To tell the Truth,i never read the Bible or other such things and dont really believe in such. But what makes NGE Unique is not only the Religious Backround (...though it has a big Role as such...) but the Complexion of how the Main-Charas are involded in all this: Pure Psychology and tearing the Mind apart until everything is out in the open. Anno got that to a Level that is unsurpassed till today.
NGE is not only an Anime,its a Lesson for the Real-Life if you take the Time to think and understand it. IF you get what Anno wanted to say,you will understand more about youself and your Life.
By the way,i find the Ending good how it is. There wasnt really more to say or show. More and it woul ruin the entire Meaning of the whole Anime. Thats what i fear when the Movies are out.
staradderdragoon
03-06-2007, 09:51 PM
To tell the Truth,i never read the Bible or other such things and dont really believe in such. But what makes NGE Unique is not only the Religious Backround (...though it has a big Role as such...) but the Complexion of how the Main-Charas are involded in all this: Pure Psychology and tearing the Mind apart until everything is out in the open. Anno got that to a Level that is unsurpassed till today.
NGE is not only an Anime,its a Lesson for the Real-Life if you take the Time to think and understand it. IF you get what Anno wanted to say,you will understand more about youself and your Life.
By the way,i find the Ending good how it is. There wasnt really more to say or show. More and it woul ruin the entire Meaning of the whole Anime. Thats what i fear when the Movies are out.
yeah, but u understand where some of the anime is coming from and u acknowledge it right? i mean, if the bible says adam was the first man, then ur gonna see why they chose adam as the first angel. u dont have to believe it, but u see where it relates. but yes, NGE's level of understanding is so complex, the only anime i've ever seen that got close was ghost in the shell stand alone complex. i'm hoping the movies will be redone in high def and explain some of the other stuff like the Sea of Dirac?
Artificial_Sunshine
03-06-2007, 09:56 PM
You don't understand the ending? :rotfl Join the club, sweety. No-one gets it. I'm suspicious when someone claims to comprehend that random mind-f with a plot created via magnetic poetry.
staradderdragoon
03-06-2007, 10:01 PM
You don't understand the ending? :rotfl Join the club, sweety. No-one gets it. I'm suspicious when someone claims to comprehend that random mind-f with a plot created via magnetic poetry.
ok. it's not that hard to understand. its hard to put it into words that for sure. u have to watch it several times before u start to get the hang of it though.
megasajan
03-06-2007, 10:10 PM
You have to understand the whole Anime,the Ending is merely a part of it.
If you say Asuka is a Bitch and/or Shinji a crybaby,watch the Anime again and try to understand WHY they are the way they are. That is also a part of understanding NGE,as is basic-knowledge in Religions.
The Mind of the Main Charas play the Biggest Role,try to understand them first,then you are closer to understand what lies beyond the Anime.
As Kakashi would say: "Look Underneath the Underneath" Very helpfull if it comes to NGE.:wink
Ennoea
03-07-2007, 12:44 PM
Thanks I got all most of the ending its just I didn't get how seele sent the last angel. The anime is seriously screwed up tho it gave me a worse headache than Flcl.
staradderdragoon
03-07-2007, 11:04 PM
haha, FLCL was insane. as for the last angel, it was kaworu. u understood that right? that's how it got in.
Ennoea
03-08-2007, 08:11 AM
No I got that kaworu was an angel its just I didn't get how seele sent him but now I know. Thank god its makes some sense now. Flcl on the other hand?
staradderdragoon
03-08-2007, 05:30 PM
^aight. its imperative that u understand the symbolism behind the last angel being a human being.
staradderdragoon
03-08-2007, 11:43 PM
^yes that is it exactly. Gendo is a rebel. period. about the spear, u mean the Lance of Longinus? its a religious icon. go research on it. the scrolls? another religious icon. they supposedly prophecise about the 3rd impact and what not but in reality, they just are about the gnostic gospels. as for rei, she's a freaking clone.
u have to research ur stuff. its deep but it makes sense.
Firedraconian
03-09-2007, 01:45 AM
He was rebelling... by doing exactly what his masters wanted?
The spear was a spear that stabbed Jesus. I fail to see how this made it several hundred feet long and capable of destroying people's emotional barriers.
megasajan
03-09-2007, 03:19 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelion#Inspiration_and_symbolism
Pointed that Link out before,there are some Infos i.e. Religious Backround i.e. the Spear,Death sea scrolls etc. Read Thread before asking Questions that were already answered :P
staradderdragoon
03-09-2007, 07:40 AM
He was rebelling... by doing exactly what his masters wanted?
The spear was a spear that stabbed Jesus. I fail to see how this made it several hundred feet long and capable of destroying people's emotional barriers.
he was rebelling by doing everything on his own accord and it just so happened that Seele agreed with him on some stuff. as for something like the lance, they're just referencing the name. they're not going to use the real thing. but we can associate with the Lance. i mean in bible black, the lance is used to make this girl come forever, but u think that's what it originally was? of course not. some people take this anime way too literal
megasajan
03-09-2007, 08:23 AM
Assistant Director Kazuya Tsurumaki said of the series, "If a person who can already live and communicate normally watches it, they won't learn anything."
...what means,that people who are completely sane wont understand NGE :laugh
So.....go into a high depressive state and watch again :P
Nuff said...
staradderdragoon
03-09-2007, 08:44 AM
haha. i dunno how true that is. im perfectly sane and i understand it. granted, i cant explain it and i know for a fact that my friend who watched the series with me sees it differently than i do but we both share the same general idea about it.
mystictrunks
03-09-2007, 01:14 PM
NGE is easy to understand as long as you don't over think every little detail....
Comic Book Guy
03-09-2007, 01:58 PM
But when you do, you either go crazy or you investigate.
I'm of the latter.
Ennoea
05-14-2007, 12:49 PM
What does everyone think about the OVA being announced?
Prince Leon
07-10-2007, 01:56 PM
EVA 1st Trailer/Peek! (http://kzi.animeblogger.net/2007/07/10/rebuild-of-evangelion-1st-trailer-peek/) :yell
Juanita Tequila
07-10-2007, 03:10 PM
EVA 1st Trailer/Peek! (http://kzi.animeblogger.net/2007/07/10/rebuild-of-evangelion-1st-trailer-peek/) :yell
OMGOMGOMG!!! I so wanna watch it... To bad for us, we have to wait for the dvd release for a sub. :cry
Lord Yu
07-10-2007, 03:17 PM
Utada Hikaru's version of Fly me to the moon sucks hard.
gabha
07-10-2007, 03:27 PM
I can't believe it took me this long to finally watch NGE!
I was warned about the ending (the first one, not the movie) time and again, but no amount of warning prepared me for the wtf feeling I got from them, the movie ending made things better, but wouldn't have satisfied me. Thank god I watched it after discovering Wikipedia, which gave the answers to about 90% of the questions I had (the rest being simply unanswerable).
Tabris
07-13-2007, 07:19 PM
Better Quality Trailer Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfKp0ujM174
I Also Megauploaded it, so it's available for download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GVB3BEPO
I hope this new movie will not give me another brain damage :oh
Captain Pimp
07-13-2007, 07:50 PM
Sweet, the animation looks nice. Hopefully, this movie won't show us anything out of the ordinary..although NGE already has :arg
GIANT REI SCARED THE HECK OUT OF ME ._.
Pasty
07-13-2007, 11:26 PM
They are never going to stop milking this series are they? That said, this is looking so amazing wow. My god I can't believe how much money I've spent on this series and now I've got more shit to come.
megasajan
07-14-2007, 01:21 AM
Looks awesome...but it looks like that they are retelling the Manga (which is way shorter than the First Anime Series). Would make sense,since the Manga is almost finished :oh
Opinions?
C_Akutabi
07-14-2007, 01:22 AM
Interesting lack of Asuka in things related to the movie. I heard they're not bringing her in til the second
Pasty
07-14-2007, 02:06 AM
I'm still kind of aw'ed by how amazing this looks. Kazuya Tsurumaki is directing it, he did FLCL and gunbuster2, and that just gives me that much more incentive to watch it. He's an amazing director. And the trailer just blows my mind. The angels that are shown look so ridiculously amazing with stunning animation. It also seems like they may be following the manga moreso then the anime with this one. Which is interesting, but it could be disapointing, it's hard to tell. The manga is more of what people wish the anime was, the characters are more likeable, the plot is more coherent, but I almost wonder if having that animated will take away from what Eva was. Either way I'm really looking forward to this, moreso then anything in a number of years.
Juanita Tequila
07-14-2007, 02:58 AM
I'm still kind of aw'ed by how amazing this looks. Kazuya Tsurumaki is directing it, he did FLCL and gunbuster2, and that just gives me that much more incentive to watch it. He's an amazing director. And the trailer just blows my mind. The angels that are shown look so ridiculously amazing with stunning animation. It also seems like they may be following the manga moreso then the anime with this one. Which is interesting, but it could be disapointing, it's hard to tell. The manga is more of what people wish the anime was, the characters are more likeable, the plot is more coherent, but I almost wonder if having that animated will take away from what Eva was. Either way I'm really looking forward to this, moreso then anything in a number of years.
What is FLCL btw, I could never figure it out...:cry
Ballerina
07-14-2007, 03:18 AM
After hearing the song in the trailer I don't have high hopes for the new NGE :( The old series would have been perfect if there had been more episodes to cover all the things we were left wondering about.
A remake with 30-40 something episodes would have been more fitting IMO.
FLCL is a great 6 epsiodes anime, also known as Fooly Cooly and Furi Kuri
Nexas
07-14-2007, 03:45 AM
lol at the angel with the spinning ribcage.
What?! No Asuka? aint watching :(
dspr8_rugged
07-14-2007, 11:54 AM
When I first heard the news about this new Eva thingie, suffice to say, I wasn't really thrilled.
But after seeing the trailer, well, noticeably, animation has definitely improved so much that maybe, I'll give it a try when it comes out.
Razza
07-14-2007, 12:17 PM
It was fine at 26 episodes. Not everything has to be answered.
As for the trailer, by the animation alone it looks like Rebuilt is going to be brick shitting worthy.
Prince Leon
07-14-2007, 12:50 PM
My anxious level is beyond past its limits in anticipation for the first movie. XD
It's no surprise that Asuka wasn't in the trailer though, since she didn't arrive until after the defeat of Sachiel, Shamshel, and Ramiel who we've seen in the trailer (the production team has confirmed already that the first film will end with the defeat of Ramiel. So that'll leave Asuka to appear in the second movie where they'll fight Gaghiel right off the bat.
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