Hajime no Ippo (Latest Scan 887 IO, Raw 888)

[Moridin]

yeah the build up was something serious, i liked how quickly we suddenly jumped to the actual fight night though :3

[Yak]

So, if I don't support Kimura, I'm a Kimura hater xD

Gotta wonder if Miyata has any specific gameplans against Randy Boy Jr.

Of course he has. Miyata will use confusing tactics to bring Rand Boy down. Randy Boy most likely expects that Miyata has come up with a counter plan to his own style and will use something else than his straight book-boxing.

Naturally, being the genius that Miyata is, he anticipated Randy thinking that! He therefore will do absolutely NOTHING and use straight book-boxing which will confuse the flying bajeezus out of Randy and in the end he will lose thanks to that. Miyata is a genius right. There is absolutely NO WAY it could possibly backfire on him! :LOS :awesome

[Segan]

Of course he has. Miyata will use confusing tactics to bring Rand Boy down. Randy Boy most likely expects that Miyata has come up with a counter plan to his own style and will use something else than his straight book-boxing.

Naturally, being the genius that Miyata is, he anticipated Randy thinking that! He therefore will do absolutely NOTHING and use straight book-boxing which will confuse the flying bajeezus out of Randy and in the end he will lose thanks to that. Miyata is a genius right. There is absolutely NO WAY it could possibly backfire on him! :LOS :awesomeWhat if RBJ is the smarter genius and outwits Miyata somehow? :LOS

On a more serious note, I hope that Miyata loses this fight, then we can see him fighting with Ippo. It would be an epic fight. Just screw Miyata, if he ain't gonna fight with Ippo anyway. Heck, at this point, even a match with Itagaki seems much more likely.

[Yak]

What if RBJ is the smarter genius and outwits Miyata somehow? :LOS

On a more serious note, I hope that Miyata loses this fight, then we can see him fighting with Ippo. It would be an epic fight. Just screw Miyata, if he ain't gonna fight with Ippo anyway. Heck, at this point, even a match with Itagaki seems much more likely.

Just wait till RBJ runs circles around Ichirou and decks him with flickers :LOS

Yeah, I'm with you there. I would hope that Miyata loses so the Ippo match can happen. I dunno, of course its possible that Miyata wins against RBJ and it would be earned in the honest and just course of proving his father's boxing worthy but it just doesn't feel right to me.

I think Miyata needs to learn a lesson. He is currently at a turning point, never before has 'his' boxing, his identity been challenged and questioned as much as in this fight against this opponent. I would love to see Miyata lose - and ultimately be reborn as a new man who has accepted that 'his' boxing was indeed just copying the moves of his father but never his own, real boxing style. Which he would then go into developing, shaping and perfecting, making him a new, better and much stronger Ichirou. I know its a stretch but I would love seeing that.

After that Morikawa better focus on Mashiba, he hasn't been in the spotlight for too long :sun

[Moridin]

miyata is starting normally, it's a given.

i don't think he'll swallow his pride and evolve his style untill later in the fight when it's evident he'll take a pounding if he doesn't.

Itagaki will knock them both out faster than anyone in the arena can see in the 6th round.

[Yak]

miyata is starting normally, it's a given.

i don't think he'll swallow his pride and evolve his style untill later in the fight when it's evident he'll take a pounding if he doesn't.

Itagaki will knock them both out faster than anyone in the arena can see in the 6th round.

:sag Itagaki-fans rejoice :sag

[Segan]

Itagaki is bound to be a real monster. Moreso than Miyata.

[Hangatýr]

JOLT Smash! It's comin'!

[Moridin]

I might go re-read some Itagaki chapters now =p

god speed Itagaki is a serious threat to be reckoned with.

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jolt smash...it won't work.

[Segan]

JOLT Smash! It's comin'!Both techniques already use the full body weight. You can't go beyond that :P

[Yak]

JOLT Smash! It's comin'!

A Jolt-Smash isn't even possible physically because it requires to lay all your body weight into the strike.

The Smash-technique is a vertical upward motion which requires a massive push from legs, shoulders and the sharp turning of the hip. Its not even possible to lay your entire bodyweight into the Smash from that position because the body's center is at a low base from the beginning.

You would have to alter the motion of the technique entirely in order to pull a Jolt and then it wouldn't be the Smash anymore. :sag

[Segan]

A Jolt-Smash isn't even possible physically because it requires to lay all your body weight into the strike.

The Smash-technique is a vertical upward motion which requires a massive push from legs, shoulders and the sharp turning of the hip. Its not even possible to lay your entire bodyweight into the Smash from that position because the body's center is at a low base from the beginning.

You would have to alter the motion of the technique entirely in order to pull a Jolt and then it wouldn't be the Smash anymore. :sagWhat? But I always thought that this was a full body punch :uwah

Regardless, the Smash is just as destructive because of the angle it comes from.

[Yak]

What? But I always thought that this was a full body punch :uwah

Regardless, the Smash is just as destructive because of the angle it comes from.

Its not really. Try performing that the way Sendou does and you will notice its not the same like for example a Jolt-counter which is a straight forward strike with your full body weight put on the front leg at the end of the motion.

The Smash does put body weight behind it at the end of the motion too but that comes mostly from the turning the hip and shoulders forward at the end of the motion, its still way different from a Jolt-strike. Its simply not possible to do a Jolt-move from that position without altering the move since it follows more of an upward motion rather than a forward one like Miyata's counter or a side-to-side one like Ippo's Dempsey Roll (the normal Dempsey Roll, not sure about the improved version, I haven't really tried doing that at home. .... ... Yeah, I actually tried to copy the motion of she Smash at home, so what, sue me :sag)

EDIT:

Its difficult without graphics but I try to explain anyway why the Smash wouldn't work with the Jolt motion.

The Smash is like a weird fusion of a vertical upward straight and a hook. At the end of the motion the body weight is put in via turning in the hip and shoulder sharply but that's also where it ends, in a straight upward motion without a downfall.

Vorg's 'White Fang', which is a two-handed combination of an upward and downward hook offers for something like a Jolt variant thanks to the downward chop of the second strike, it allows for a forward falling motion in which the bodyweight can actually be put onto the front leg for maximum damage (the fact that you leave yourself open and basically stumble into the opponent makes it impractical and dangerous but for the sake of the analysis lets ignore that).

Kimura's jumping fish hook thingy is similar because he two strikes in a half-circled angle which ends at a downward falling motion where he can put all his weight on the front foot. In a sense that's similar to a Jolt-attack too.

Ippo to some extend with his Dempsey Roll although I'm not really sure about it, also falls in that category thanks to the circling figure-8 motion which - seeing it from the side - also describes a slight forward-backward weaving, so he can put in his bodyweight when he circles from side to side while also weaving forward and back.

The Smash overall is too static for all that because its an explosive sling-shot like punch from a low base to the top. If you were to put all your body weight in, you'd have to heavily kick the ground beneath you - which eventually would result in a Gazelle-punch more than a Jolt-Smash. XD


I bet no one really understood my explanation. :sag

[Segan]

No one understands your explanation because you make it so complicated :sag

The mechanics of the Smash have been explained in the series already. I believe, it was described as a 3/4 hook (or upper). It's neither a hook nor an upper, because the angle lies between those two punches.

It's beyond obvious that Jolt doesn't work with Smash together.

And now, tell me why the Smash is so dangerous. Without all that complicated stuff :sag

[Yak]

And now, tell me why the Smash is so dangerous. Without all that complicated stuff :sag

Don't tempt me, ass. :sun

But okay. :awesome Imagine a contracted spring being released straight in your face and you get a rough idea why its so dangerous :sag That's not the best analogy since that more describes the Gazelle punch rather than the Smash but its the best I can come up with without sounding too complicated :LOS

Also, since the staring motion is from a low base, you offer minimum target surface for your opponent and it also allows you either punching under the guard or breaking it; for someone like Sendou who has incredible punching and leg strength its a very dangerous strike.

[Gunners]

Didn't a boxer with an impressive KO record use the smash punch, I think his name was Ruddock.

[Segan]

Well, my interpretation was that, while the Smash isn't exactly a simple uppercut, it's still a punch that comes from below. If it connects, it almost always is gonna be the jaw or the whole face.

Has Ippo even been hit by the Smash directly in his rematch against Sendou?

[Yak]

Well, my interpretation was that, while the Smash isn't exactly a simple uppercut, it's still a punch that comes from below. If it connects, it almost always is gonna be the jaw or the whole face.

Has Ippo even been hit by the Smash directly in his rematch against Sendou?

I can't really remember, its been a while since I read that. Maybe like once or so? I'm pretty sure though that when he guarded against it, his guard got knocked off.

[Puar]

regardless of mashiba not being serious he was trying to knock kimura out and finish it, he still wanted to win and win impressively, kimura went in with a gameplan, played on mashibas expectations and almost ended up taking him out.

I didn't want to debate what happened in that fight, he put up a better one than apparently any one else in his weightclass and faced down the monster, he's a boxer who would be worthy of a title.

That's both true and not true in the context you present it. While Mashiba did want to win impressively, he also wanted to win showcasing the strength of his Flicker Jab, because it was his signature and maybe even because of the whole "he who rules with his left" methodology. No matter which way you slice it, a Mashiba who goes, what was it, 8 Rounds(?) without throwing a right is nowhere near as effective of scary as the Mashiba we're used to seeing.

new IO release was good, as expected Guildenstern went down, and given the comments about how it was his worst match ever I become even more convinced that they are about to start turning the corner.

The only notable time I can think of where one won without the other is, early on in the series during the First Class A Tournament, Aoki moves on while Kimura gets the shaft, as he usually does. But I agree with everyone who thinks Aokimura will never get a belt. If they ever did, it'd have to be in some Flash Forward segment at the end of the series and not something we actually see develop. But Aokimura can't or shouldn't get a belt... It goes against their whole schtick, they're good at everything EXCEPT boxing.

[Segan]

That's both true and not true in the context you present it. While Mashiba did want to win impressively, he also wanted to win showcasing the strength of his Flicker Jab, because it was his signature and maybe even because of the whole "he who rules with his left" methodology. No matter which way you slice it, a Mashiba who goes, what was it, 8 Rounds(?) without throwing a right is nowhere near as effective of scary as the Mashiba we're used to seeing.



The only notable time I can think of where one won without the other is, early on in the series during the First Class A Tournament, Aoki moves on while Kimura gets the shaft, as he usually does. But I agree with everyone who thinks Aokimura will never get a belt. If they ever did, it'd have to be in some Flash Forward segment at the end of the series and not something we actually see develop. But Aokimura can't or shouldn't get a belt... It goes against their whole schtick, they're good at everything EXCEPT boxing.That's it. You just won the argument. :omg

[Agmaster]

Aoki lost? No way! I ...I'm shocked.

[The Drunken Monkey]

RBJ time, been waiting for this forever now.

[insi_tv]

aoki lost, it's all over now :D
time for miyata to lose

[Moridin]

Takamura is up first :sag

[Segan]

RBJ time, been waiting for this forever now.
Hey, you're lurking around here, too? :)

Only saw you in the game department.

[The Drunken Monkey]

^I've been here for awhile now, I think. O_o Started reading Ippo a year ago. I just never post here. =/ But RBJ vs. Miyata is going to epic.

[Dream Brother]

Didn't a boxer with an impressive KO record use the smash punch, I think his name was Ruddock.

Razor Ruddock, yep. He's probably best known for fighting Tyson.

Here he is showing (and explaining) the smash itself:

rNo8nXD3xoc

[Moridin]

haha damn that was a pretty epic video, the effects part made me lol xD

[insi_tv]

damn, smash used in a real fight :D, i nearly came ^^
sendo approves :thumbs

[Shroomsday]

Well sure that was good but I was really more blown away by the trash compactor.

[Dream Brother]

I think that the best example (in context to a manga comparison) is from 1:09 to 1:12. The other guy even gets blown completely backwards into the ropes, just like Ippo did when he fought Sendo and got hit by the smash.

Well sure that was good but I was really more blown away by the trash compactor.

Haha, that bit at the end really had me raising my eyebrow.

[Segan]

Saw that a long time ago. But it's nice to rewatch that sequence.

[Puar]

"Say hello to my little friend!"

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[Tracespeck]

Itagaki has a man crush

edit: thanks for the chapter :)

[Segan]

Fuck yes, Ippo's starting to step up more often. You don't see him making a declaration of war all that often.

Thank you for the scans, Puar.

[Moridin]

great chapter, WAR IPPO.

joy, we saw sawamura, static eh, bad news for counter punchers...well I think we already knew that much.

[Lazlow]

Thanks a lot, Puar.

Also, guys:

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=411880

You know what to do. :iria

[Moridin]

already included it in my votes!

[Segan]

Voted for HnI as well.

[Moridin]

can't wait for the next few chapters, seeing how the fight starts out and all, I hope it's explosive :3

[MIHAWK]

Razor Ruddock, yep. He's probably best known for fighting Tyson.

Here he is showing (and explaining) the smash itself:

rNo8nXD3xoc

seeing the smash makes me want for ippo to master it,he used it against miyata by accident and sento the first time

he should master that,the heart break shot and the fist of god and get more muscles to complete the dempsey roll and handle the dempsey roll stop :LOS

[Dream Brother]

Finally, the fight arrives.

The only question left is if it can possibly live up to the staggering hype and development...

Quite an audience for this 'un. Sawamura, Sendo, Ippo and Itagaki together? Sweet. Should provide for some interesting exchanges.

[~Mamoru~]

Good chapter. Liked the RBJ, Miyata split page.

Has HnI ever won manga of the month?

[Moridin]

yeah, it's always nice to get the commentary from the spectators on things and we've got an all star line up to do so for us hehe.

[Segan]

All star lineup?

That would be Ricardo Martinez, Takamura, Brian Hawk and David Eagle sitting in a row.

[Yak]

All star lineup?

That would be Ricardo Martinez, Takamura, Brian Hawk and David Eagle sitting in a row.

No Date Eiji for great justice? :(

[Segan]

No Date Eiji for great justice? :(Too much of a difference compared to the top four. Date had to work hard to get his Jesus powers.

The four I mentioned pretty much were superhumans from the get-go.

[Moridin]

All star lineup?

That would be Ricardo Martinez, Takamura, Brian Hawk and David Eagle sitting in a row.

oh you know it was just a usage of a phrase :mad

I don't think I'd include Hawk for commentry on someones fighting though xD

[Yak]

oh you know it was just a usage of a phrase :mad

I don't think I'd include Hawk for commentry on someones fighting though xD

Don't let it get to you, Tom, Segan is famous for being a notorious smartass. :P

[Segan]

Don't let it get to you, Tom, Segan is famous for being a notorious smartass. :PIndeed.

But I'm sure, he knew that already.

[Yak]

Indeed.

But I'm sure, he knew that already.

You did it AGAIN!

[Segan]

You did it AGAIN!And I will do it again.

:del

[Moridin]

it's alright yak, segan is my pet summon, he comes when i call ^^

so are we almost back up with the raws again now? that's cool ;3

[Segan]

it's alright yak, segan is my pet summon, he comes when i call ^^Hush, hush, I summoned myself here regularly, when you weren't around here.

[Moridin]

Oh that's what you think =p

you know...I think I might just give in and read the raw >_>

[Segan]

Oh that's what you think =p

you know...I think I might just give in and read the raw >_>Not much happening. All we see are flashy entrances then both get into the ring.

And then...cliffhanger! xD

[Moridin]

ah I might as well read it then in that case xD

[Segan]

What the hell are you doing? Go vote already :yell

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=413106

[Moridin]

So it seems rbjs father died shortly after contesting for the world title and as a result of accumulated damage. Randy doesn't really care about that nor about the fact that their fathers fought before, he just wants a world title (probably because his father failed) it's only Sakaguchi who keeps pushing that angle. Miyata's entrance was flashy lol, looks like he's going to stick to his fathers strategy to start

[Segan]

Mori, why haven't you voted yet? :C

[Moridin]

I voted xD

actually I thought we were still in the nominations period heh.

[jkingler]

I voted, too.

Realize: I was torn between 20CB, Vagabond, and Ippo. I pimped at least two of them (I forget if I was involved in the 20CB project...XD), so it was a tough choice, especially seeing as I deeply love all three.

However, Ippo has the most mass appeal, the most available content, the most consistent releases and fanscanners, and the best chance of beating that Daa thing (that I guess I should look into, since I like romantic comedies just fine XD). I get the feeling that people might campaign behind that one, so Ippo it is, no doubt. :P

[Moridin]

ah I remember the good old days of the ippo pimp project, that was a great effort :3

[jkingler]

Yeah. I may get into anime pimping again, but the demand isn't really there now re: manga pimping, as there is onemanga and all, and there are so many other projects. :P

[Segan]

Mori, do something about the poll :-(

Mobilize the entire staff or something.

[Moridin]

yeah hehe

man I was reminiscing about those days when IO were on the big catch up drive as well and we were getting a chapter each day, that was beautiful

the staff? fuck the staff.

[jkingler]

It's really not worth any inhuman(e) expenditure of effort. If there's blenderference or the like, do what you can, but don't be too distraught if they simply care more than you do, are willing to waste more time than you, and get more people to vote for that Daa thing as a result. :P

It's not like Ippo would be ineligible for re-nomination or anything, right?

[Dream Brother]

the staff? fuck the staff.

Ow...

It's not like Ippo would be ineligible for re-nomination or anything, right?

Aye, even if this strange Daa thing wins then I'll just be preaching Ippo even more powerfully next time. I've never read Daa, so it may even be worthy of all the praise those guys are heaping upon it.

(Doubtful, but...always possible.)

[Moridin]

not you aamir <3

or most of the staff really xD

[Segan]

But the momentum might be gone by the time the next month comes :uwah

[jkingler]

By all means, rally votes. Just don't get too attached to the idea of the more [insert positive adjective here] option being the more popular one - that almost never ends well.

[Segan]

I'm trying.

Got a neg so far. Looks like there are some bigger assholes outside the OBD :sag

[Moridin]

I'm just trying to work out whether the other one is trolling or not xD

seriously don't worry about it, give it another month and we'll be full swing in the miyata/randy fight, not a big deal and maybe even better.

[IronFist Alchemist]

I've always wondered (and I'm sure it's been brought up)...why hasn't Martinez moved UP a weight class...21 title defenses is ridicioulous, lol...maybe he likes being a big fish in a small pond.

[Segan]

I've always wondered (and I'm sure it's been brought up)...why hasn't Martinez moved UP a weight class...21 title defenses is ridicioulous, lol...maybe he likes being a big fish in a small pond.In Ippo, Featherweight is one of the bigger ponds, if anything.

And if Jr. Lightweight and Lightweight in Japan are any indication of the relative world level, Martinez probably would have had a much harder time to find opponents than in Featherweight.

[IronFist Alchemist]

In Ippo, Featherweight is one of the bigger ponds, if anything.

And if Jr. Lightweight and Lightweight in Japan are any indication of the relative world level, Martinez probably would have had a much harder time to find opponents than in Featherweight.

Well yeah, that's true...the FW division is tremendously deep...but he's ruled it with an iron fist for the past decade...but whatever, he won't be going anywhere until Ippo beats him (eventually)

[Dream Brother]

I've always wondered if Martinez is based upon the real boxer named Ricardo Lopez -- he had 51 wins and 0 losses. He actually successfully defended his title even more times than Martinez by hitting the 22 mark.

Anyway...

I can never imagine Ippo beating Martinez, but he has a long while to improve and gain experience yet, and Martinez is only getting older. Personally, I'm not actually even that interested in the matchup -- not at the moment, anyway. I loved the Date/Martinez match because of the emotional investment I had in it, skilfully conjured through the fleshing out that Morikawa gave to Date's character and the intense struggle we see him go through.

[IronFist Alchemist]

That may be how Ippo will beat him...Ippo will be hitting his prime and Martinez will be on the decline...then in like the last second of the last round, beats him with like a Dempsey Smash or something, lol...we'll see when it gets there.

[Puar]

Found these on another forum. Both are cam raws
http://www.minnanomanga.org/temporaire/raw/hni821.rar
http://www.minnanomanga.org/temporaire/raw/hni822.rar

The 821 Link is for a chapter that says it is Round 822, but is actually 823.
The 822 Link is for a chapter that says it is Round 821, but is actually 822.

Thanks to Doc Terror for the find!

[Segan]

The 821 Link is for a chapter that says it is Round 822, but is actually 823.
The 822 Link is for a chapter that says it is Round 821, but is actually 822.

Thanks to Doc Terror for the find!Thank you.

Holy shit. I didn't expect Miyata to dominate him like this. Did Morikawa pull off a fake build-up? :omg

[SaiST]

Online viewing?... Summary?... Please?

Can't view 'em. :(

[Segan]

Online viewing?... Summary?... Please?

Can't view 'em. :(Chapter 821 is missing, so we have only the raws for 822 + 823.

Miyata basically dominates RBJ and is wailing on him. In the next round, RBJ is starting to chatch up and even keeps up with Miyata's speed and finally manages to corner him. Then he's starting to pound on him, but Miyata actually avoids all the punches while being stuck in the friggin' corner. And on the last page he successfully counters RBJ.

[Gunners]

Miyata will probably burn himself out in the later rounds, cutting his weight like that should lower his stamina, like what happened to Takamura in his fight with Hawk.

He will more than likely get caught with a big blow that fucks up his foot work too.

[Moridin]

pretty much a classic miyata start then

[Dream Brother]

I'd also like everyone to recall how well Date started against Martinez, contrary to virtually all expectations.

...

And then what happened afterwards.

[Moridin]

yeah yeah =p

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anyway, so the approx order seems to be randy reeling from some punches, the ref gets between them and they jump into action again, flashback possibly to the start and how they started so fast then too, randy sticks with miyatas speed and traps him in the corner. He unleashes a barrage of punches all of which Miyata dodges before Miyata catches him with a counter. Randy is reeling.

chapters starts with randy having been punched from the corner, miyata circles him and gets out, randy unleashes a load of punches all of which miyata is dodging. Miyata gets inside his guard and hits and then gets back out of range, again he dodges and then lands a counter. By the end of the chapter he's landing several and picking randy off and we get a shocked randy and a confident Miyata

[MIHAWK]

why isnt there the 821 chapter?

EDIT:

btw the smash was invented by ruddock or rocky marciano? didnt HnI state it was made by marciano?

[Yak]

Guys, the thread title with the information about the chapters is misleading as it currently is.

Whoever zipped those two new cam-raws (thanks by the way) messed up the chapters.

There IS a raw for 821 and the other release is for 822. Go and check the chapter covers, you can see the numbers imprinted there. While the zipped folders might lie, the chapter covers don't. We do in fact have chapters 821 and 822 already.

[Segan]

Guys, the thread title with the information about the chapters is misleading as it currently is.

Whoever zipped those two new cam-raws (thanks by the way) messed up the chapters.

There IS a raw for 821 and the other release is for 822. Go and check the chapter covers, you can see the numbers imprinted there. While the zipped folders might lie, the chapter covers don't. We do in fact have chapters 821 and 822 already.No way.

We still have one chapter missing the first round entry fight. The raws we have already show them in the middle of the fight.

[Yak]

No way.

We still have one chapter missing the first round entry fight. The raws we have already show them in the middle of the fight.

Yes way.

Go and check those two cam raws and take a look at the damn chapter numbers imprinted on it. I'm not fucking blind, maybe you are.

I know that the chapter starts off awkward but as Ammanas said, 821 seems to include a page-spread with BLACK panel borders. It might be a flashback. So, the chapter starts out in the middle of the already ongoing fight but Randy has a flashback to its beginning, then it jumps back to the present, then comes another small flashback. It has a confusing order but this is definitely 821, the number which according to Adam Ries usually follows 820. Hmpf.



EDIT:

Yoink! :P Apparently there is a mistake either made by Morikawa himself or by I-O or whoever scanlated the chapter since for some reason we have TWO chapters with the number 819:


http://i37.tinypic.com/24mrk9w.png
http://i38.tinypic.com/a27zaa.jpg


I take it one of those is actually meant to be chapter 818 or 820. Someone just screwed up.


The two NEW cam raws definitely say 821 and 822 and since no one was doctoring around on them with editting I take that as a fact.


http://i37.tinypic.com/2ch5b0j.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/160rjbr.jpg

[Shroomsday]

The chapter numbering on the magazine has been messed up for a while. It's been one behind since they used the same chapter number twice and never corrected it. It's a mistake the publishers made for some reason, nothing to do with scanlators or raw providers.

At some point it might be easier to just merge a pair of chapters together as one scanlation release.

[Segan]

The chapter numbering on the magazine has been messed up for a while. It's been one behind since they used the same chapter number twice and never corrected it.Just what I wanted to say.

Yaks are stupid :P

[Yak]

The chapter numbering on the magazine has been messed up for a while. It's been one behind since they used the same chapter number twice and never corrected it.

I see, so that's where the problem is coming from. That makes it entirely complicated now. D:

Fuck you Segan. Fuck yourself right up the ass. :P

[Segan]

I see, so that's where the problem is coming from. That makes it entirely complicated now. D:Only if you do the thinking.

Not, if you leave the numbering to Puar. :P

Fuck you Segan. Fuck yourself right up the ass. :PButthurt already? :grin

Ï always wanted to say that at least once

[Yak]

Only if you do the thinking.

Not, if you leave the numbering to Puar. :P

Butthurt already? :grin

Ï always wanted to say that at least once

Excuse me that I utterly LACKED the vital information that the magazine publishers themselves were responsible for the screw-ups, I took it that it could simply have been an error made by I-O which isn't entirely unlikely, you character-cunt :P


YOU will be the one who's mighty butthurt once I'm done raping your little rectum with a telephone pole, fucker :mad :sun

[Moridin]

nownow kids xD

I can't wait to see Randy land his first good hit on Miyata hehe

[Segan]

Should've hopped onto the HnI train sooner, you horny bovine :P

[Yak]

nownow kids xD

I can't wait to see Randy land his first good hit on Miyata hehe

It'll never happen, Tom. :laugh



@Segan: Elitist prick :zaru

[Segan]

It'll never happen, Tom. :laughYes, it will. Remember Gedo? It took a long time for Ippo to land his first blow, but he did it nonetheless.

Randy's gonna beat Miyata to a bloody pulp :pek

@Segan: Elitist prick :zaruSorry, here's a cookie for you.

[Moridin]

Randy will definately give him a beating for at least a round or two, you can guarentee it's not going to be an entirely one sided fight lol.

[Yak]

Yes, it will. Remember Gedo? It took a long time for Ippo to land his first blow, but he did it nonetheless.

Randy's gonna beat Miyata to a bloody pulp :pek

Sorry, here's a cookie for you.

Nah, it won't. Ichiro is the new Sasuke :LOS

But seriously, yeah, I would hope that Randy murderstomps the crap out of Miyata :hehee



With chocolate filling? :iria

[Segan]

Nah, it won't. Ichiro is the new Sasuke :LOS

But seriously, yeah, I would hope that Randy murderstomps the crap out of Miyata :hehee Sooner or later, it will happen.

With chocolate filling? :iriaYou like chocolate, too? I got a bag full of these :iria

Take as much as you want.

[Moridin]

you two make such a good couple >_>

--

I still don't see Miyata losing the fight but he'll definately take a pounding whilst getting to the finish line.

[Yak]

you two make such a good couple >_>

--

I still don't see Miyata losing the fight but he'll definately take a pounding whilst getting to the finish line.

Not you, TOO! :arg


Nah, Miyata MUST lose. It must be an example that he picked the wrong path and Ippo needs to show him how its done. :P

[Dream Brother]

Sweet siggie, Yak. Really sucks that Itagaki was never animated.

I would love for Miyata to lose, but I want Morikawa to put some kind of interesting twist on it.

[~Mamoru~]

It looks like Daa Daa Daa is catching up with HnI. :C

Surely, there can't be more to discuss about a 40 ch series than a 820+ series in it's own sub-forum.

[Jesus Date]

It looks like Daa Daa Daa is catching up with HnI. :C

Surely, there can't be more to discuss about a 40 ch series than a 820+ series in it's own sub-forum.

'the fuck is Daa Daa Daa, and why has it 62 votes? :yell

anyway, awesome fight so far but I expect RBJ to get serious in the next rounds.

[Eloking]

I'm a kinda silent follower of HnI, but I wanted to tell you that you just got my vote :amuse

Elok

[Segan]

I think, RBJ is going to realize sooner or later, that he's going to lose if he keeps trying to keep up Miyata's pace.

That's when he will go back to the stance he used in his spar against Itagaki.

Although, that ass of manager isn't helping him there.

I'm a kinda silent follower of HnI, but I wanted to tell you that you just got my vote :amuse

ElokThat's great. Welcome to the forum.

[Dream Brother]

'the fuck is Daa Daa Daa, and why has it 62 votes? :yell

Gag votes.

For the most part, anyway...

[bugrit]

you know since RBJ is meant to be a world no.1 contender hes got to have more hidden skills. also if we look at the chapters as not a flash back but a natural progression of events RBJ looks like he doesnt want to hold back and can actually match miyatas speed to a certain degree (the shocked look could just be suprise at someone of similar speed).

anyways. looks like RBJ can already corner miyata if he wants, he can also take on miyatas punches if they stand still and slug it out. hes been hit by a few counters already, but tht doesnt mean he cant react to it.

also the cliff hanger of the last chapter (raw) shows miyata doin a serious counter. rules r if it looks one way the next chap will show somethin diff. im guessin miyatas counter will be countered by a right hook of some kind.

im not a translator or nethin so i could be wrong here. but it looks like theres no flash backs at all.

prediction: miyata will win and his dad would have made his point by him using a punch that he (his dad) never had. which would explain the strange training/mitt hitting that his dad did by moving the mitts. suprised no1 mentioned this at all. theres hardly ne waste to serious moments. miyata cant lose. if he does he fights ippo. he needs to win but have some kinda injury or abilty that creats ippo vs miyata a mismatch. ortherwise the chase ends... possibly even miyata goes into deep think tank to relearn his style.

[bugrit]

i guess to be clear. its when his dad moves the mitts about. remember when he kept moving the mitts up and miyata was getting annoyed, then his dad got pissed for his son talking back during miyatas weight training bit.

i think its obvious that its a rematch of the dads with sons for subsitutes. RBJ will use his dads style. and the one knows whats lacking the most will be miyatas dad. thats y i reckon miyata will win.

[TalikX]

ive finally caught up with the manga, it took me awhile but i got it done. anyways after that i have a few opinions...

#1 I think theres too much talking before fights, its always the same old "oh hes good at this and this but im good at this" and "im gonna win etc" kinda bores me out a bit.
#2 i like takamura and all but him never losing is annoying,its not very realistic at all for a japanese fighter to conquer 6 weight classes, i mean come on... his ego is so giant but i guess thats what makes him but still i want him to lose a few more times
#3 well my favourite character of the series is (no surprise) ippo so ive kinda getting tired of waiting and i want him to either perfect the dempsey roll or take a faster route to ricardo martinez, i mean the guy is like 30, and even though he is still a god hes getting old.

[Dream Brother]

/edit

Mistake, oops.

[Gunners]

I think Ippo is 22 or 24.

[Segan]

He was stated to be 23 at some point in the series, so if anything, he's gotta be 24 by now or close to that age.

[Puar]

Can you smeeeeeelllllllll-ellllllll-elllllll-ellll... what the Lightning God is cooking?

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I see, so that's where the problem is coming from. That makes it entirely complicated now. D:

Fuck you Segan. Fuck yourself right up the ass. :P

Only if you do the thinking.

Not, if you leave the numbering to Puar. :P

Butthurt already? :grin

Ï always wanted to say that at least once

Quoted for Truth... and for my Migraine.

why isnt there the 821 chapter?

EDIT:

btw the smash was invented by ruddock or rocky marciano? didnt HnI state it was made by marciano?

To the first question, because Ignition-One is teh sux.

To the second question, as seen in the YouTube video a few posts back, it was Ruddock who invented the Smash. Rocky Marciano was one of a few boxers who were the inspiration for the character of Sendo. In the series, Sendo actually aspires to be like Marciano, leading to him getting the Nickname of Naniwa's Rocky.

Nah, it won't. Sasuke is the new Ichiro :LOS

Fixed for truth. Miyata pre-dates Sasuke by almost two decades.

He was stated to be 23 at some point in the series, so if anything, he's gotta be 24 by now or close to that age.

In Current Ippoverse Time, the date is 4/15/97. Ippo was born 11/23/73. Ippo is still 23, almost to the halfway mark of 24.

[Segan]

Great as always, Puar. Thank you.

[Jicksy]

thx Puar :dance

[Dream Brother]

1) Cheers to the IO team.

2) Miyata is a complete badass.

[Yak]

Hm, awesome chapters, thanks Puar.

Can't wait for the equilibrium to break here so that the tides turn in favour of Randy. So far he got his ass beat the entire time.

[Segan]

1) Cheers to the IO team.

2) Miyata is a complete badass.
Hmph...RBJ will step up soon enough :pek

Though, both of them have a father-complex, don't they? :hehee

[Yak]

Its actually cool to have Sawamura giving comments from the audience, gives us some more insight in the typical tactics of a counter boxer. So far we pretty much had every major boxer in Ippo have some sort of say from the audience, right? Save for Vorg, maybe.

[Segan]

Its actually cool to have Sawamura giving comments from the audience, gives us some more insight in the typical tactics of a counter boxer. So far we pretty much had every major boxer in Ippo have some sort of say from the audience, right? Save for Vorg, maybe.You're forgetting Martinez, Hawk and Eagle :zaru

[Dream Brother]

Hmph...RBJ will step up soon enough :pek

Though, both of them have a father-complex, don't they? :hehee

Haha, both true. When the former happens I'll be especially interested to see how Miyata copes.

One thing I really liked about the latest chapter is the concept of the counter-without-throwing-a-counter; the way Miyata used intelligence as the opening jab instead of an actual punch. Sawamura's commentary is already interesting me.

[Majeh]

just rad up to 821. I was a little disappointed that 821 was only 14 pages..=\

[Segan]

just rad up to 821. I was a little disappointed that 821 was only 14 pages..=\
By far not the first time this happened...

[Majeh]

By far not the first time this happened...

yea i never really realised it cause i just kept on clicking while reading it on onemanga. So it was just a continuous click like 1 big chapter until now. :(

[Hangatýr]

That's the problem with Ippo. At first you're intimidated by the sheer number of chapters that keeps getting higher by the week. But once you catch up, you'd wish that you were several volumes behind.

[Jicksy]

^ qft, was the same for me.

on another note, about rbj's father being beaten somewhat badly in the match against big ichiro albeit still winning... gives miyata some chance, no?

[Puar]

just rad up to 821. I was a little disappointed that 821 was only 14 pages..=\

The numerous spreads puts the page count up there at 18...

[PhlegmMaster]

Can someone post a link to the 823 raw, please?

[Kagutsuchi]

Ah 821 was lame lol, who's going to punch first blah blah blah tons of pages later bam, chapter over.

[Moridin]

you thought it was lame? hrm I really enjoyed it as an opening to things

[jkingler]

Judging by his theme, attention span might not be his strong point.

I thought it was awesome, too. :D

P.S. This is a Miyata fight. This is Ippo. You're going to get a lot of meta-fighting and explanation. If that's not to your liking, I'm amazed you've read this far. :P

[Sigbin-Puti]

i really hope this fight is a complete destruction of miyata. to be honest i really want this fight to be over and done with. doesn't really matter who wins but if miyata losses hooray.

[bugrit]

hmmm lookin from a purely fight perspective. rbj should beat miyata, simply because of the sytles maychup.

if you think about it from the storyline. if miyata wins wats stopping him from fighting ippo. and if he does, what happen to the future story arc and all the floating fears of " never destined"

even though id like to say miyata wins because i bet morikwa wants to emphasize the value of having the experience of your dad at your back. miyata will lose so ippo will get a shot at RBJ. 8]

rbj vs ippo will be good stuff. gogo liver blow

[Puar]

COUNTAH! ...UWWWWOOOOOHHHH!!

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[Yak]

Puar = God. :knk

[Jicksy]

COUNTAH! ...UWWWWOOOOOHHHH!!

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yoshaa!!!!!! :yell

[Segan]

Fuck yea, thanks.

By the way, the pages 7 and 8 are in wrong order.

[insi_tv]

COUNTAH! ...UWWWWOOOOOHHHH!!

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you are a god amongst men :thumbs

[rockst☆r sin]

Excellent chapter. Just when Miyata started getting comfortable with the blitzing, Randy Boy goes up a gear or two. After Randy has Miyata back against the wall, Miyata goes up another gear. Beautiful defense by Miyata. Hit and don't get hit back, Whitaker style.

[Puar]

Fuck yea, thanks.

By the way, the pages 7 and 8 are in wrong order.

Erm... No they're not?

[Segan]

Erm... No they're not?Then why is there a panel of Miyata's mouth bleeding before he got an on-panel hit one page later?

[Puar]

You'd have to ask Morikawa on that one, but our Scanner scanned them in the exact order it was printed in... That's for sure! My best answer is that blood was drawn, no pun intended, on that very panel.

[Segan]

Oh, well, no big deal. I just thought it was a little odd.

[Dream Brother]

Whitaker style.

That's what came to my mind too -- the way he dodged all those shots while in the corner, amazing.

[Unrequited Silence]

Chapter was def. really Good. Expect Randy Boy though to step it up again.

[Lord Genome]

NEW SEASON OF HNI THIS JANUARY YAY

Probaly late though :-(

[jkingler]

Are you serious?!?! LINK!

[jkingler]

FUCK! FOUND IT! FUCK YEAH!!!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=633733

:yell

[Lord Genome]

I KNOW ITS AWESOME

90 EPISODES OF WIN

[Jicksy]

awesome news :awesome and 90 eps is just :gar

[insi_tv]

FUCKING YEAH!!!!!11111

FUCK YES!!

... calm down, calm down...
WOW! this is the best news i heard for a long time

[Dream Brother]

DFGKJNFDGKJSLGMLKMDLSFGKSFGNSDLKGJNDFGN

[monkeyfrom_uranus]

FUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKK YESSS YESSS YESSSSSSSSSS

ahhh wooooooooooo that's too awesome!!! what do i do what do i dooo
:naruko

[Unrequited Silence]

wow! thats crazy. best news ever

Takamura = instawin

[insi_tv]

i hope we'll see some itagaki fights and takamura vs. hawk of course :D

[acritarch]

i really hope this fight is a complete destruction of miyata. to be honest i really want this fight to be over and done with. doesn't really matter who wins but if miyata losses hooray.

I agree with you for some odd reason. I just kinda want Miyata to lose, and I want it to happen fast... Miyata needs to learn a lesson or two (well, maybe he already learned and will break it out in this fight but who knows..).

[Puar]

From a generous benefactor who shall remain anonymous:

825
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826
http://www.sendspace.com/file/a6vevk
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QS9FK8ZH

823-824 Scanslations should be finished shortly. And then 825-826 will get the same treatment as soon as either 1) our secret scanner can re-scan in some pages or 2) sorwha's shipment of 825-826 comes in and he's able to re-scan in those pages which need re-scanning, whichever comes first.


Until then... REPPUKEN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db2p0H4pQNg)! ...Okay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sNjvY580ZE)?

[Puar]

Razor Sharp, Baby! NO ONE MESSES WIT DE BAD GUY!!

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[Dream Brother]

Hell yeah. Thanks IO.

That last page really looks like some sort of funky advert for a new Gillette shaving blade...I half expected Miyata to follow that line with: "The best a man can get."

(Expect Randy to learn from this round by going to his corner, shaving his moustache off, and then immediately levelling up.)

To be serious, though:

Awesome round. Arguably the most impressive round that we've ever seen Miyata give in his entire pro career, considering both the level of his opponent and the sheer domination. Beautiful boxing.

Of course, you just know that it's not gonna stay that way. I'm very interested to see how Randy turns the tables here.

[Segan]

I'm starting to get the feeling that if Miyata is going to lose it will not be because of Randy's ability as a boxer, but his own stubborness to prove himself instead of focusing on winning in the best possible way.

You saw what happened with Itagaki when he tried the same shit with Imai. He almost lost.

Sooner or later Miyata's going to get hit if he's sticks to infighting.

[Jesus Date]

Miyata fanboy turning I? :LOS

awesome first round.

[Sigbin-Puti]

damn it 3 chapters in and rbj keeps on looking more and more like a punching bag. i don't care how but i just hope miyata loses.

[Segan]

Holy shit, I just saw the 825 raw.
Miyata used the same punch that won him the comeback fight. The result was just devastating.

[Sigbin-Puti]

Holy shit, I just saw the 825 raw.
Miyata used the same punch that won him the comeback fight. The result was just devastating.

things he's doing to rbj making him look like fodder :arg

[Segan]

things he's doing to rbj making him look like fodder :argYea.

Ippo wouldn't stand a damn chance if he fought Miyata now.

[Moridin]

lol with the ippo subforum it seems all the discussion still happens in here >_>

[Gary]

lol, this thread should be packed with poeple.
;:sag

[Sigbin-Puti]

the way i see it miyata either gonna win uncontested or suffer defeat thru unexpected circumstance. i was hoping rbj to dominate miyata i don't want some random occurrence to defeat him.

[Moridin]

RBJ is gunna switch hit in the next few chapters and I think it'll be Ippo-like in that one punch manages to turn the tide of the match all the way around (for a while)

[Jicksy]

yosha! new chaps :dance much appreciated :amuse

[AbnormallyNormal]

wow it looks like miyata will totally win (as of 823). thats surprising, i figured with so much hype for like 200 chapters straight, randy boy jr would have been miuch scarier in the 1st round.

[The Drunken Monkey]

RBJ is being a let down. =/

Miyata is epic win right now.

[Blizzard chain]

I can't find 824 raw :argh

[Tracespeck]

RBJ is going to land a mega-counter off a switch hit that breaks Miyata's jaw, just like what happened to his father. That's my prediction at least, this fight is a mirror of his father's with the same ending because Miyata is still trying to be his father rather then surpass him. Miyata winning this so easy is just too much of a let down from all the build up to be possible.

[AbnormallyNormal]

yeah but RBJ can take hits and miyata can't. so it makes sense for most of the damage being done to RBJ for it to be a more equal match overall

[Moridin]

new raw :3

http://www.raw-paradise.com/Ritual/Chapitres/Hajime826.zip

[Segan]

new raw :3

http://www.raw-paradise.com/Ritual/Chapitres/Hajime826.zip
Holy shit, a connected Jolt counter and RBJ is still standing? He sure can take damage.

[Jesus Date]

Ok I think thats it for Randy. Miyata is completely dominating him.

[Moridin]

nah the tables are about to turn, Randy is still standing after what Miyata hit him with, I still think he's going to end up being similar to Ippo in that he's going to be able to take damage and deal a lot with a single punch

[Grandmaster Kane]

Miyata is fucking rediculous man

[Puar]

Too tired to make witty comment...

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[Moridin]

thanks puar, much appreciated

[Segan]

Thank you Puar.

Perfect punch, huh? I think we know about that already.

[ampotaness]

the most awesome news yet has come!

http://www.onemanga.com/Hajime_no_Ippo/824/extra/

thanks Puar and IO team..

[MechaTC]

the most awesome news yet has come!

http://www.onemanga.com/Hajime_no_Ippo/824/extra/

thanks Puar and IO team..

fuck yeah! I'm so excited.

I loved the first anime. hopefully they keep the same production quality...or it gets even better! : D

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[Yak]

827 RAW (http://www.raw-paradise.com/Ritual/Chapitres/Hajime827.zip)

Looks like Randy is at the point of cashing out. I hope he pulls through somehow, Miyata also looked worried somehow.

[Moridin]

no mentions on the new raw?

was a curious little chapter, hard to tell what happened from the action alone given there actully wasn't really a lot of action >_>

I saw a couple of people on the DG boards suggesting the leg clash was something that was going to damage Miyata later in the fight injurywise but I think it might actually be meant to serve as a warning that Miyata didn't heed that Randy had switched stance and that he could have been at risk right there (insert your own punctuation).

-mori, waiting for morikawa to switch hit

[Yak]

no mentions on the new raw?

was a curious little chapter, hard to tell what happened from the action alone given there actully wasn't really a lot of action >_>

I saw a couple of people on the DG boards suggesting the leg clash was something that was going to damage Miyata later in the fight injurywise but I think it might actually be meant to serve as a warning that Miyata didn't heed that Randy had switched stance and that he could have been at risk right there (insert your own punctuation).

-mori, waiting for morikawa to switch hit

Might be, although to me it just looked like Randy was desperately squeezing a few more seconds out of the fight to be on the save side for the bell. That eventually saved him from Miyata destroying him to the end of the round, imo.

[Segan]

Might be, although to me it just looked like Randy was desperately squeezing a few more seconds out of the fight to be on the save side for the bell. That eventually saved him from Miyata destroying him to the end of the round, imo.Actually, I think that Randy was a little dizzy and changed to southpaw stance subconsciously.

I really don't think he's the kind of boxer to resort to this kind of tactic you described.

[Yak]

Actually, I think that Randy was a little dizzy and changed to southpaw stance subconsciously.

I really don't think he's the kind of boxer to resort to this kind of tactic you described.

Hm, yeah, looking back into the last scene of 826, he still had his left leg in front. Maybe it was just an accident. He might have wanted to dodge the Jolt Miyata was about to throw and then staggered back and got hooked into Ichiro's leg causing them to fall.

Then again, we don't know, Randy is cunning and he is kinda desperate for the victory, too. We'll see soon.

[Segan]

Randy cunning? Maybe, but his boxing doesn't show that, and neither does his character.

[Moridin]

Hm, yeah, looking back into the last scene of 826, he still had his left leg in front. Maybe it was just an accident. He might have wanted to dodge the Jolt Miyata was about to throw and then staggered back and got hooked into Ichiro's leg causing them to fall.

looking at it again it does look like Miyata was perhaps coming from round the side slightly at him, I'm not really sure how the follow on was going. I guess actually understanding the dialogue would help us eh xD

Randy cunning? Maybe, but his boxing doesn't show that, and neither does his character.

wait till it turns out his boxing so far has been leading miyata into trying a big punch so he could unleash a devastating switch hitting chin splitting earth shaking belt stealing punch of his own.

-mori, all about the chin splitting.

[Segan]

wait till it turns out his boxing so far has been leading miyata into trying a big punch so he could unleash a devastating switch hitting chin splitting earth shaking belt stealing punch of his own.

-mori, all about the chin splitting.You're taking that out of context. xD

What you're describing is simply a gameplan. But what Yak referred to was more an attitude of sorts. Cunning as in resorting to somewhat petty, but effective tricks, sorta like Gedo did.

[Moridin]

And you are taking humour too seriously *claps*

You're also making assumptions based on yaks use of the word cunning when it can be used to refer to far more subtle and morally upright things than petty tricks.

Not that I actually disagree with you on your assessment that RBJ hasn't really displayed that much "cunning", I'd just be open to the possibility given that he's got to swing the fight at some point.

-Mori, Arnie was cunning.

[Sigbin-Puti]

maybe rbj is like taka much more dangerous on the brink of defeat and consciousness. just hope so he got to make up for hype that is rbj :cry

[Hibari Kyoya]

Are the raws worth a read?

[Gary]

Any one know, how many chapters are out so far?

[Segan]

Any one know, how many chapters are out so far?828 or so. The official numbering has gone wrong once or twice, so the current latest chapter is labeled 827, I think.

[Moridin]

TO THHEEEE FAAAACCCEEEE

-Mori, TO THEEEE FAAAACCEEE

[Puar]

ZA WARULDO!!

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[Jicksy]

epicness puar thx :whoo

[insi_tv]

thanks Puar, epic chapter! i wonder what randy will do in order to still win this fight... to me it seems that he already lost.
but you know, when he's standing he still can create a miracle :D

[Blind Itachi]

Puaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar!...

OMG chapter was OMG :argh...

[metal_uzumaki]

Just brilliant. An evolve form of the cross counter?

[Dream Brother]

Jesus.

I'm actually rooting for Randy now. This is just complete destruction.

[insi_tv]

Just brilliant. An evolve form of the cross counter?

imho not really a cross counter...
he evaded it completely and then hit him from the side after shifting there! randy didn't see that one coming so he couldn't prepare for the impact....
sawamura(?) explained that the best counter is the one which you don't see coming.

miyata is totally destroying him at the moment, i can't see how randy will overcome this. i can't see ANYONE beating up miyata now unless miyata has some weakness we haven't seen now.

[Segan]

Jesus.

I'm actually rooting for Randy now. This is just complete destruction.Heh, it will get even worse for Randy...

[Grandmaster Kane]

Invisible punch.

BRILLIANT!

[Sigbin-Puti]

i think disaster will strike miyata soon, often in his fights miyata displays godlike boxing skills but something disastrous happens to him near end.

[Dream Brother]

i think disaster will strike miyata soon, often in his fights miyata displays godlike boxing skills but something disastrous happens to him near end.

Aye, Miyata's Achilles’ heel (that Hearns-esque frailty) is just about the only thing that makes his fights interesting to me. Even then it's not really a completely equalising flaw at all -- he compensates for that frailty with a ridiculous level of heart. I think we all pretty much expect disaster to strike Miyata soon -- it seems nearly inevitable when considering some of Mori's past fight structures -- but the real question is whether that disaster will ultimately lead to his defeat (ala Mashiba) or whether he can hang on to deliver that final KO punch (ala Arnie). I'm hoping that it'll be the former, although I'm wondering how that would impact the future plot as a whole.

All I know is that Ippo is very lucky that he's not fighting Miyata right now. This fight (so far) has really emphasised that decisive gap between them, in my eyes.

[The Drunken Monkey]

I love how this fight turned out the exact opposite of what most people, including myself thought.

[Hibari Kyoya]

lol thats gay Miyata is completly raping him, i want Randy to win but u know he won't =[

[Saiko]

Miyata is beating the shit out of Randy.

[TalikX]

So how long will this manga continue? for another 10 years? lol.

[Hibari Kyoya]

Hopefully I dont mind :zaru

but Miyata is so overpowered =[

[insi_tv]

one devastating body blow and his advantage of speed is gone ^_^
maybe he will just crush randy and then it's over :edu from time to time something new and unexpected should be done... this fight was hyped like hell, why not end it after a few rounds with miyata totally destroying randy

[Gary]

where can Iview the new chapter at?

[Hangatýr]

http://ippo-online.confusticated.com/

[Unrequited Silence]

Crazy Chapter. But for those of you who keep up with this manga, should know that how these fights are structured. Miyata is about to get owned to the point where it appears he may lose.

[insi_tv]

Crazy Chapter. But for those of you who keep up with this manga, should know that how these fights are structured. Miyata is about to get owned to the point where it appears he may lose.

miyata must have an INCREDIBLE weakness to fuck up this fight.. he's destroying randy at this point!
the only scenario i see randy winning in is: he invades miyata's space like he did with itagaki's and lands some body blows... miyata will propably lose his rhythm and question his abilities... blablabla...
gogo miyata! destroy him :D

[Gary]

http://ippo-online.confusticated.com/

Thank you.

[PhlegmMaster]

I think it's silly that as of 825 Randy still hasn't shown his skill as a switch hitter, or his 'static' ability. He's in trouble, he's acknowledged he's in trouble, why wouldn't he go all out already?

[Blizzard chain]

He can't switch hit because he isn't being given any oppurtunity to. Counters are coming when he doesn't expect them and most of them are too fast for him to even perceive. Under those circumstances, it doesn't surprise me that he is getting schooled.

[Dream Brother]

He can't switch hit because he isn't being given any oppurtunity to. Counters are coming when he doesn't expect them and most of them are too fast for him to even perceive. Under those circumstances, it doesn't surprise me that he is getting schooled.

Yep. A major part of boxing is mental -- something that Mori has continually stressed throughout the series. To perform with your usual style, it's normally important to feel comfortable and relaxed instead of panicked or tense. That's normally called 'getting into your rhythm' in boxing terms. Randy, so far, has been thrown off balance from the very first moments of the fight; Miyata chose the perfect moment to dash in, startle Randy, and then counter him, as seen in Blizzard's siggie. Ever since that point Randy has been anticipated and pummelled. He's playing a continual game of catchup.

In the latest chapter, Miyata allowed him to gain a false sense of security -- Randy finally began to feel like he was getting into his rhythm, and you see his growing delight -- only to discover that he was just being baited into one hell of a counter. He must be completely screwed up on the mental front now. I can't see him pulling out his switch-hitting until he can take a moment to completely calm down and think...which should probably take place in-between rounds, while sitting in his corner. Maybe even while the ref is counting, although it's doubtful.

I find it interesting that before the fight, Miyata declared that 'counters will be useless', and yet now he's indulging in them as if they're Pringles.

[Hibari Kyoya]

Well Randy hasn't shown any switching abitlies cos of what the guys above said he hasn't been given a chance in hell.

Its completely one sided I wonder what stumbling block Miyata will hit during this fight though.

[Blizzard chain]

I find it interesting that before the fight, Miyata declared that 'counters will be useless', and yet now he's indulging in them as if they're Pringles.

He had been conflicted over whether to use his dad's style or "his" style. It was similar to how Itagaki was debating about what style to use when he fought Imai at the east rookie king finals. Using his own style also added shock to the enemy camp since they expected them to be useless.

[Violent By Design]

If anyone remembers the fight isn't that much diff from Miyata Sr vs Randy Boy Sr, remember Miyata Sr was also winning on points up intill the final round (i think it was the last round) where he obviously gets ko'd.

[Blizzard chain]

I don't recall there being anything about RBS being dominated to this extent. I don't remember any mention of early downs either.

[insi_tv]

yeah, my opinion is the same as yours... randy just isn't allowed to perform his "style"!
how many raw chapters are out there? i don't want to read them, i just want to know :P
if miyata is able to land another counter like that again or even a jolt counter (oh god have mercy with randy^^) in one of the next chapters i would view the raws^^

[Majeh]

Dam i thought this would be a decent fight but so far its looking like a Pro-boxer beating up an infant...=\

[Code]

I don't recall there being anything about RBS being dominated to this extent. I don't remember any mention of early downs either.
I think it was stated the damage he got in the fight is what caused his death.

[Saiko]

I have a bad feeling about Miyata.. It's going too easy and smooth.

[Agmaster]

Miyata == boxing's Killua? Perfect counter == Kanmaru?

[Blizzard chain]

I think it was stated the damage he got in the fight is what caused his death.

He was only damaged after his fight. That damage compounded with the title match was what cost him his life. Though if miyata is STILL not up to par with miyata sr., then I could understand how badly RBS was beaten on.

[insi_tv]

He was only damaged after his fight. That damage compounded with the title match was what cost him his life. Though if miyata is STILL not up to par with miyata sr., then I could understand how badly RBS was beaten on.

i think he has already surpassed his father. he knew all his moves when he was just a kid because he COULD SEE them! his father was shocked about that..
miyata should be above his fathers level,l otherwise he couldn't win this fight

[Code]

He was only damaged after his fight. That damage compounded with the title match was what cost him his life. Though if miyata is STILL not up to par with miyata sr., then I could understand how badly RBS was beaten on.

http://www.onemanga.com/Hajime_no_Ippo/820/03/
http://www.onemanga.com/Hajime_no_Ippo/820/02/

It was stated that his title match was relatively quick as a result of the brain damage he recieved from his match against Miyata Sr. And both Sakaguchi (who feels Randy Boy even got more damaged than Miyata) and Randy Boy Jr. attribute his death more to the damage he got in his match gainst Miyata Sr.

[Haohmaru]

Sooo, where's 829 raw?

[Hibari Kyoya]

how are the scans coming along?

[Puar]

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It was stated that his title match was relatively quick as a result of the brain damage he recieved from his match against Miyata Sr. And both Sakaguchi (who feels Randy Boy even got more damaged than Miyata) and Randy Boy Jr. attribute his death more to the damage he got in his match gainst Miyata Sr.

RBS's match against Miyata Sr. was an OPBF title match. It is NOT specified if RBS' world match was a title match, just that it was a WORLD match.

how are the scans coming along?

826 is out now, 827-828 are typeset and being cleaned as we speak, 829 raw is in JP waiting on release of 830 at which point 829-830 will be shipped to us as per the arrangement we have with our current RAW Provider, which means we're on two week delay unless someone can find us someone to Scan the chapters on a weekly basis in Nippon because I have tried and failed so, so many times. (;

He had been conflicted over whether to use his dad's style or "his" style. It was similar to how Itagaki was debating about what style to use when he fought Imai at the east rookie king finals. Using his own style also added shock to the enemy camp since they expected them to be useless.

Not really... This fight is more, like.

Sr.: Use your own style, not my style.
Miyata: B-but... your style IS my style.
Sr.: *face palm*

He can't switch hit because he isn't being given any oppurtunity to. Counters are coming when he doesn't expect them and most of them are too fast for him to even perceive. Under those circumstances, it doesn't surprise me that he is getting schooled.

He's been doing it this whole time if you go back and look at the panels closely.

miyata must have an INCREDIBLE weakness to fuck up this fight..

And that will probably be the same one he's always had, he takes damage like a little bitch... And this comes from a Miyata Fanboy.

[PhlegmMaster]

Thanks Puar!


Online viewer isn't working for chapter 826, though.

[Dream Brother]

I really do feel sorry for Randy at this point. This is an even more crushing version of Mayweather/Gatti. And if that jolt lands...

Come on 'Asura' -- show us something.

[Saiko]

Has someone the Download link for the 829 Raw ?

[insi_tv]

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THANK you! Puar for president :gar




826 is out now, 827-828 are typeset and being cleaned as we speak, 829 raw is in JP waiting on release of 830 at which point 829-830 will be shipped to us as per the arrangement we have with our current RAW Provider, which means we're on two week delay unless someone can find us someone to Scan the chapters on a weekly basis in Nippon because I have tried and failed so, so many times. (;

thanks for this insight! is cleaning the last step before release? i'm not very well informed regarding the translation/scanlation process :amuse

826: amazing chapter again imho! randy will drop dead to the canvas if this jolt connects!

[Sigbin-Puti]

Has someone the Download link for the 829 Raw ?

i second this request

[Hibari Kyoya]

Damn just read 826 its not even funny anymore :scry