Andre the Giant vs Big Show

[CrazyMoronX]

Ok, here we go.

The Big Show, 7' 2", 500 pounds.
Andre the Giant 7' 4" 500 pounds.

Giant has a 2 inch gain on Show, but they are the same weight.. I attribute that to the idea that Show probably has more muscle than Giant, since muscle is heavier.. but who knows.

Using your best evidence, mind power, computer simulations, WWF Video Game fighting simulations, your own personal opinion, and made up hearsay, who will win this insane clash of the titans??!

[korican04]

Princess Bride > Big show.

[azn_sephiroth]

I think big show.....i dont know i like his chances better for some reason...

[iaido]

Andre the Giant suffered from many diseases, have to go with Big Show even though Andre is a legend.

[Insipidipity]

I remember when the Big Show used to be called the Giant...those were the days. Giant got into the business later so he probably knows all about Andre and could beat him.

[Jh1stgen]

Man if this really happened .. holly shyt imagine the rating!!

I say Andre bc he is so big and of his height

[The 21st Hokage]

Now this match is actually a real Slobberknocker for old school WWE Fans but Ima go with the Big Show on this one sure he might not be what he used to be back then but during his prime he like Andre was considered unstoppable I dont watch WWE Currently so I cant speak much for the current Big Show only the past.

[Insipidipity]

The truth is, it depends on who has the better promoter:D

[CrazyMoronX]

The truth is, it depends on who has the better promoter:D
Both get Vince McMahon.
:amazed

[Comic Book Guy]

Eh?

No Great Khali?

[ZergKage]

The Show of course, he is somewhat mobile.

[Rice Ball]

Andre is a legend.

[Hype]

What was Andre finishing move because you aint seeing no chokeslam from Show

[Genesis]

Big Show since i've never seen Andre wrestle a match. :oh

[KrazyNaruto]

Andre wasn't really 7 '4 and he was smaller than Big Show. In an actual match, I think that Big Show would take away Andre's only advantage in wrestling(his size).

[Sengoku]

andre would win because of his curly hair.

[The Anti-Existence]

1. Andre was doing splashes and dropkicks off the top rope.
2. Andre never stopped growing. He was most likely a little over 7 ft 2 in..
3. Andre once tipped over a car with 4 men inside it. He never worked out or conditioned himself to be that strong.

[The Anti-Existence]

1. Andre was doing splashes and dropkicks off the top rope.
2. Andre never stopped growing. He was most likely a little over 7 ft 2 in..
3. Andre once tipped over a car with 4 men inside it. He never worked out or conditioned himself to be that strong.

[Locard]

If Andre was in his prime, he would own Big Show, the guy had some kinda superhuman strenght.

[Sengoku]

im telling you guys.. its the curly hair XD

i think script wise, andre would win

[Jay]

Andre wasn't really 7 '4 and he was smaller than Big Show. In an actual match, I think that Big Show would take away Andre's only advantage in wrestling(his size).
To be honest WWE allways overexagerates on the wrestle's height anyway, one minute big show is 7.2 now he's 7.0? he must of shrunk in his old age of 30 :P , and Andre the Giant wasn't 7.4 just like hogan was never 6.8 like they say, Andre is about 7.0 the same of the big show.
Back to topic in real life big show would kill andre the giant, the reason being the wrestler's these days are alot more athletic and fitter then what they were then, in there days they would go out and eat burgers and chips then go to the pub and have 20 pints, these days the have to stick to a strict training program and tan a few steds here and there.
But if they were fighting in WWE (not real life) Big show would get his ass handed to him by Andre because compared to big shows Andre's record speaks for itself.

[ZergKage]

To be honest WWE allways overexagerates on the wrestle's height anyway, one minute big show is 7.2 now he's 7.0? he must of shrunk in his old age of 30 :P , and Andre the Giant wasn't 7.4 just like hogan was never 6.8 like they say, Andre is about 7.0 the same of the big show.
Back to topic in real life big show would kill andre the giant, the reason being the wrestler's these days are alot more athletic and fitter then what they were then, in there days they would go out and eat burgers and chips then go to the pub and have 20 pints, these days the have to stick to a strict training program and tan a few steds here and there.
But if they were fighting in WWE (not real life) Big show would get his ass handed to him by Andre because compared to big shows Andre's record speaks for itself.

Just depends if they're wearing their height enhancing boots :laugh

[Sengoku]

*cough* kane *cough*

[Comic Book Guy]

This is true. WWE overexaggerates the height (and maybe the weight) of certain wrestlers.

[Jay]

*cough* kane *cough*
Why does he where high heels :laugh, no in all honestly WWE made a major cock up when they changed Kane. The old Kane was taller and bigger then the Kane of today.
They used to say the old Kane was 7 foot, but the new Kane is the same height as the undertaker :notrust who in his dead man walking dvd admited he was around 6.8 or 6.9 (so in other words 6.8 :amuse ) not 6.11 like they make him out to be.
This is true. WWE overexaggerates the height (and maybe the weight) of certain wrestlers.
I think they overexagerate on all the wrestlers height and weight from what Ive seen, I remember when they used to say Hogan is 6.8 but when he squared up to the Rock (who they say is 6.4) they were exactly the same height. And chris beniot who was 5.9 he's grown taller to he's 6 foot now :laugh

[Jin22]

I'm going with Andre on this one

[Tower Bridge]

They're both very big. I think big show will win, but it will be close.

[Neji]

i'm thinking Andre, even though a ride in a volkswagon beetle can beat them both

[Tower Bridge]

Who is the bigger of the two?

[Neji]

the height and weight are on the first page :lmao

[Tower Bridge]

Silly me.

Oh well Andre has the height advantage, but they weigh the same.

[The Anti-Existence]

Hogan was 6 ft. 7 when he was younger. He's gotten shorter with old age and all the reconstruction on his body.

[Shadow Replication 1480]

1. Andre was doing splashes and dropkicks off the top rope.
- Errrr, no. I've talked to plenty of people who've seen Andre work outside of the WWF and never did either of those things. Granted, he used to do a lot more in the ring before his body started breaking down, but as far as splashes and dropkicks from the top? Hell no.

2. Andre never stopped growing. He was most likely a little over 7 ft 2 in..
- About 6'10 - 6'11 would be around what Andre was as Hogan(whom is about 6'4 - 6'5 legit) came up to at least his jaw when he was slouching somewhat back at WM 3 due to his bad health.


But if they were fighting in WWE (not real life) Big show would get his ass handed to him by Andre because compared to big shows Andre's record speaks for itself.
If you're talking about his supposed undefeated streak, that was a fabrication to make Hogan look good. Fact is, Andre used to job quite a bit(like when Harley Race slammed him like 3 or 4 years before Hogan did it).

[Tower Bridge]

I think if you grow too big it can be disadvantageous.

[The Anti-Existence]

Errrr, no. I've talked to plenty of people who've seen Andre work outside of the WWF and never did either of those things. Granted, he used to do a lot more in the ring before his body started breaking down, but as far as splashes and dropkicks from the top? Hell no.

http://forums.prowrestling.com/showthread.php?t=4559&highlight=Andre

- About 6'10 - 6'11 would be around what Andre was as Hogan(whom is about 6'4 - 6'5 legit) came up to at least his jaw when he was slouching somewhat back at WM 3 due to his bad health.

Nope. Hogan said himself how tall he used to be. He’s gotten smaller with age and injury. He was originally 6 ft. 7. I think Hogan knows more than you about himself.

If you're talking about his supposed undefeated streak, that was a fabrication to make Hogan look good. Fact is, Andre used to job quite a bit(like when Harley Race slammed him like 3 or 4 years before Hogan did it).

I think he was referring to the fact Andre is one of the biggest names ever in wrestling and not the kayfabe 15-year-undefeated streak. And no one gives a shit Harley Race slammed him. Hogan lifted and slammed 520 lbs Andre who couldn’t even help with the slam due to his horrible back problems. Hogan lifted 520 pounds of dead weight.

I hate when people say :”well, that slam ain’t that big. Brock Lesnar could F5 Big Show!!” No one cares. No. One. Hogan slamming Andre = possibly biggest moment in wrestling history and the anti-Hogan sentiment amoung the idiotic IWC can’t change that.

[Shadow Replication 1480]

http://forums.prowrestling.com/showthread.php?t=4559&highlight=Andre
Forgot about the Kamala SNME cage match and never heard about the Studd one, so yeah, I was wrong on that.

Hogan said himself how tall he used to be. He’s gotten smaller with age and injury. He was originally 6 ft. 7. I think Hogan knows more than you about himself.
Hogan's one of the biggest carnies in the business, so I take most of what he says with the literal grain of salt.


I think he was referring to the fact Andre is one of the biggest names ever in wrestling and not the kayfabe 15-year-undefeated streak. And no one gives a shit Harley Race slammed him. Hogan lifted and slammed 520 lbs Andre who couldn’t even help with the slam due to his horrible back problems. Hogan lifted 520 pounds of dead weight.
He mentioned Andre's record, not his big name status. Also, I brought up Race slamming him because that was one of the times he lost before Vince did the undefeated streak gimmick.

I hate when people say :”well, that slam ain’t that big. Brock Lesnar could F5 Big Show!!” No one cares. No. One. Hogan slamming Andre = possibly biggest moment in wrestling history and the anti-Hogan sentiment amoung the idiotic IWC can’t change that.
Okay, where in my initial post was I pushing some sort of "anti-Hogan sentiment"? I stated one time he lost before Hogan beat him and me saying the undefeated streak was thought up to make Hogan look good is correct because it's TRUE. If I *really* wanted to slander Hogan's "good" name, believe me, I could mention some other shit rather than pointing out that Vince booked a wrestling angle to make his biggest star at the time an even bigger star because he wanted to make more fucking money.

Pay attention to whom you're trying to label as an "idiotic IWC" person before typing next time.

[The Anti-Existence]

Okay, where in my initial post was I pushing some sort of "anti-Hogan sentiment"? I stated one time he lost before Hogan beat him and me saying the undefeated streak was thought up to make Hogan look good is correct because it's TRUE. If I *really* wanted to slander Hogan's "good" name, believe me, I could mention some other shit rather than pointing out that Vince booked a wrestling angle to make his biggest star at the time an even bigger star because he wanted to make more fucking money.

Pay attention to whom you're trying to label as an "idiotic IWC" person before typing next time.

Well, I'm interested to hear your slanderous words that hold any bit of truth. Tell me what is so bad about a guy who always does everything he can to make the fans happy, always does what he can to help his family and is generally a great person who gives to charity? He was a terrific athlete, a master of everything a person needs in the ring(look at Japan for technical skill and America for excellent storytelling and psychology) and is the only true megastar to be hugely over in 4 companies and to indeed put 2 of those companies on top?

[Shadow Replication 1480]

Man, I shouldn't even bother since you seem like one of those Hogan apologists who'll just stick their fingers in their ears and hum loudly than possibly accept that Hogan's not exactly a saint, but what the hell? I'll do it just to see how you spindoctor his actions...

First off, when Jesse Ventura was trying to get a union started for pro wrestlers, Hogan snitched him out Vince and that's a large reason why you never saw Jesse on WWF TV ever again til he agreed to ref the main event at SummerSlam 99.

Secondly, he purposefully sabotaged Sting's title win at Starrcade 97 just because he didn't want to job. What should have been the end of the NWO at the time ended up being the very thing that lead to WCW dying the miserable death it had. And to make matters even worse, he bailed out of the company saying he was going to take some time off when all he was really doing was trying to pass off the blame for the company going into the tank like it did later that year.

And let's not forget how he conveinently throws others under the bus when someone comes remotely close to blaming him for anything like WCW dying and he said it was because of things like Bret Hart's contract. Oh, he likes to bury those who can't really do anything about it too like when he called guys like Eddy Guerrero, Chris Benoit, and Dean Malenko "vanilla midgets" during an interview.

And to rub some more salt on the wound, let's not forget that he almost ran WCW into the ground before they stumbled into the NWO when Hall and Nash left the WWF. He pretty much buried all of WCW's homegrown talent like Steve Austin, Cactus Jack, Sting, Luger, Vader(I'll never forgive him for no-selling the Vaderbomb, what a bitch move that was), and even Flair by bringing in his lackies like Savage, Duggan, and Honky Tonk.

He was a terrific athlete, a master of everything a person needs in the ring(look at Japan for technical skill and America for excellent storytelling and psychology) and is the only true megastar to be hugely over in 4 companies and to indeed put 2 of those companies on top?
Hogan, even when he wasn't broken down, was never a "master" of technical skill. He was/is great at working the crowd, which helps when he felt like being a lazy ass and doing the basic 15 minute Hogan match. And what's the 4th company of which you speak? AWA, WWF, and WCW are pretty much it unless you're considering the WWE to be an entirely new company, which is quite stupid.

Now I eagerly await your retort(oh, this should be good).

[Jay]

[QUOTE=The Anti-Existence;6427347][url]Nope. Hogan said himself how tall he used to be. He’s gotten smaller with age and injury. He was originally 6 ft. 7. I think Hogan knows more than you about himself.
So because Hogan himself said he is 6.7 he is?. I know on bio's and even the wrestling cards I had as a kid it allways say's hogan is either 6.7 or 6.8, even in Rocky 3 they tried to say he was 7.0 when he played thunderlips. As I was saying WWE are allways dramatic on the size of the wrestles by a fair bit, to be perfectly honest they say the rock is 6.4 (when in fact he is only 6.2) but when hogan was squared up to him they were exactly the same size. And I know we all shrink with old age by about an inch or two, not four to five inches it just doesn't make sense.
Even Viscera (Big Vis) who is actually 6.6 they claim he's 7 foot now :amuse .



I think he was referring to the fact Andre is one of the biggest names ever in wrestling and not the kayfabe 15-year-undefeated streak. And no one gives a shit Harley Race slammed him. Hogan lifted and slammed 520 lbs Andre who couldn’t even help with the slam due to his horrible back problems. Hogan lifted 520 pounds of dead weight.

I hate when people say :”well, that slam ain’t that big. Brock Lesnar could F5 Big Show!!” No one cares. No. One. Hogan slamming Andre = possibly biggest moment in wrestling history and the anti-Hogan sentiment amoung the idiotic IWC can’t change that.
Sorry I jave to disagree with you I was refering to Andres underfeted record streak like what shadow replication was just saying.
And if we are going to say about slaming 500+ pound feats, then Kurt Angled could angle slam the big show john cena could F.U the big show and like you just said brocK lensnar could F5 the big show. It just proves the wrestlers these days train alot harder and have improved so much over the years, thats why I was saying in Real Life the Big show could beat Andre, but in WWE they would make it as though Andre woud win.

[The Anti-Existence]

shouldn't even bother since you seem like one of those Hogan apologists who'll just stick their fingers in their ears and hum loudly than possibly accept that Hogan's not exactly a saint, but what the hell? I'll do it just to see how you spindoctor his actions..

Last I checked, the man who built wrestling into what it is doesn’t need apologists. Hitler and Stalin need apologists. Hogan needs respect which he doesn’t get from ignorant people.

ff, when Jesse Ventura was trying to get a union started for pro wrestlers, Hogan snitched him out Vince and that's a large reason why you never saw Jesse on WWF TV ever again til he agreed to ref the main event at SummerSlam 99.

Well, that doesn’t sound good...but is it that bad? Do wrestlers need a union? Are they in such dire need? I don’t think that having the potential for wrestlers to go on strike is exactly good business and Hogan is a businessman.

Secondly, he purposefully sabotaged Sting's title win at Starrcade 97 just because he didn't want to job. What should have been the end of the NWO at the time ended up being the very thing that lead to WCW dying the miserable death it had. And to make matters even worse, he bailed out of the company saying he was going to take some time off when all he was really doing was trying to pass off the blame for the company going into the tank like it did later that year.

Um...no. Bischoff. Sting was on drugs and not in great shape around this time and Eric wanted to punish him. Also, Turner execs were were dogging at him to get Bret Hart involved in the storyline. And if you’re referring to how he left in 2000, that’s because Russo violated his contract. Fully justified. Russo is a retard.

And let's not forget how he conveinently throws others under the bus when someone comes remotely close to blaming him for anything like WCW dying and he said it was because of things like Bret Hart's contract. Oh, he likes to bury those who can't really do anything about it too like when he called guys like Eddy Guerrero, Chris Benoit, and Dean Malenko "vanilla midgets" during an interview

Vince Russo and the creative team killed WCW. These idiots had no clue what to do with anything and kept tryig to revive old ideas and make them work again. So, everything fell apart. And I have not seen or heard that interview..

And to rub some more salt on the wound, let's not forget that he almost ran WCW into the ground before they stumbled into the NWO when Hall and Nash left the WWF. He pretty much buried all of WCW's homegrown talent like Steve Austin, Cactus Jack, Sting, Luger, Vader(I'll never forgive him for no-selling the Vaderbomb, what a bitch move that was), and even Flair by bringing in his lackies like Savage, Duggan, and Honky Tonk

Paul Wight also came to WCW. He owes his career to Hogan doing things like letting him “nearly twist off his head.” The Giant would go over Sting and have some great matches. And who the hell wants Hogan to lose? Not the fans. Not the people who pay money. Fans come to see Hogan WIN. Not to see him fall to the Vaderbomb. As badass and as much as I respect Big Van Vader, I’m not gonna cheer for him over Hogan and neither are the fans.

Hogan made the nWo what it is with the BIGGEST heel turn in history.

Hogan, even when he wasn't broken down, was never a "master" of technical skill. He was/is great at working the crowd, which helps when he felt like being a lazy ass and doing the basic 15 minute Hogan match. And what's the 4th company of which you speak? AWA, WWF, and WCW are pretty much it unless you're considering the WWE to be an entirely new company, which is quite stupid.

Wattch his Japanese stuff. He was very impressive. Going hold-for-hold with Inoki, being arierl if need be and generally just adapating to what the fans wanted. So, New Japan Pro Wrestling is what I was talking about. He was big big over there even when their version of Hogan, Inoki, was on the scene.

[quote]

[Shadow Replication 1480]

Last I checked, the man who built wrestling into what it is doesn’t need apologists. Hitler and Stalin need apologists. Hogan needs respect which he doesn’t get from ignorant people.
And so it begins...


Well, that doesn’t sound good...but is it that bad? Do wrestlers need a union? Are they in such dire need? I don’t think that having the potential for wrestlers to go on strike is exactly good business and Hogan is a businessman.
Generally, unless you were with the Big 2 before WCW died, being a professional wrestler isn't exactly the most profitable venture. Promoters stiffing you on pay and crappy or no health benefits are only two of the ugly things of the business that most people never mention sans guys like Foley or Austin. As for Hogan, snitching is still snitching and that's only scratching how much of a bitch he is/has been in real life.


Um...no. Bischoff. Sting was on drugs and not in great shape around this time and Eric wanted to punish him.
Do you realize how fucking stupid that sounds? Eric Bischoff sabotaging the biggest main event in WCW's short history for a reason like that(which has no weight anyway seeing as he was a born-again Christian and people like Luger were hating him for snitching them out about the rest of them doing drugs and nailing rats) is the biggest pile of bullshit I've seen on this board and that's including jplaya.

Also, Turner execs were were dogging at him to get Bret Hart involved in the storyline.
Bret being involved would have been fine if Hogan hadn't sabotaged the finish by telling Nick Patrick to count slow when it was supposed to be a fast count that draws Bret out.

And if you’re referring to how he left in 2000, that’s because Russo violated his contract. Fully justified.
No, I'm talking about '98 when he disappeared citing that goofy presidential campaign garbage to explain why he wasn't around when Nash booked himself over Goldberg.

Russo is a retard.
One of the few true things you've actually said here.


Vince Russo and the creative team killed WCW.
Russo was the self-inflicted gunshot wound to a terminal cancer patient whom had maybe minutes left to live and just wanted to get it over with. Hogan sabotaging Sting and keeping the NWO around long past when it stopped making money and Nash killing Goldberg's mystique at Starrcade 98 and then trotting out that stupid "new" NWO via the Fingerpoke of Doom(and gee, who did that involve again?) combined to pretty much do in WCW.



Paul Wight also came to WCW.
And proceeded to be booked in stupid rehashed WWF angles because Hogan wanted to make money off of Andre's name.

He owes his career to Hogan doing things like letting him “nearly twist off his head.”
Hahahahahahahahhahahahahha... Hog Wild 96 says "hi".


And who the hell wants Hogan to lose? Not the fans. Not the people who pay money.
When he was a heel people paid a lot to SEE HIM LOSE. They didn't pay to watch him and the NWO run over the WCW faces and never get their comeuppance. It's fucking Wrestling 101.

Fans come to see Hogan WIN.
Not when he's a heel, which is when all my examples came from.


Not to see him fall to the Vaderbomb.
Do you even know what I'm talking about? I said he DIDN'T EVEN SELL IT! I never said he should have gotten pinned by it or lose the match, just sell the goddamn move which he DIDN'T.

As badass and as much as I respect Big Van Vader, I’m not gonna cheer for him over Hogan and neither are the fans.
The hell did you get that from?


Hogan made the nWo what it is with the BIGGEST heel turn in history.
And this had nothing to do with what I was talking about. Remove thy head from thine ass.

Wattch his Japanese stuff. He was very impressive.
Seen it, wasn't that impressed.

Going hold-for-hold with Inoki, being arierl if need be and generally just adapating to what the fans wanted.
Never was a big fan of Inoki, so needless to say, I don't care.

So, New Japan Pro Wrestling is what I was talking about. He was big big over there even when their version of Hogan, Inoki, was on the scene.
Bleh, Japan loves their big ass gaijins. Hell, Bob Sapp was huge over there before he started getting his ass kicked in MMA matches. Christ, Khali, Kurragan, Giant Silva, Albert/A-Train/Giant Bernard all are/were huge over there. Hell, Flair, Sting, Stan Hansen, and the Steiners were all popular over there if you wanted to go that route, so it's not limited to just Hogan.

[The Anti-Existence]

1. http://forums.prowrestling.com/showthread.php?t=29205&highlight=Starrcade

So, he says Bischoff admitted to it. You have a BS rumor floating around the internet... Which one will I trust.

Hard choice.....................

2. I have told no lies. You’re the one supporting your position on rumors.

3. So, now Hogan was exclusively responsible for the Fingerpoke of Doom? Creative control means you can so “no.” He didn’t book the matches or the finish. That was the creative team.

4. I just love that everything that happened in WCW was all Hogan. You make it sound like he said “jump” and everyone in the company jumped. There are bookers, ya know. Hogan does not hold sole power in a company... Honestly. Unless you can show me evidence saying Wight was booked as he was only because of Hogan....I don’t care what you accuse him of.


5. Fall Brawl ‘95 says hi. The Giant appears to nearly kill Hogan. You know another guy named Earthquake? Hogan letting Earthquake and Giant do things like that put them in main event status.

6. That would be why tons of people were wearing nWo t-shirts, I suppose? The nWo were huge heels sure but people loved them. And Hogan lost a lot as a heel. Goldberg’s win over Hogan definitely helped his career. Give me a break. Hogan wrestled Vader when he was a heel? I remember Vader in the ‘96 Royal Rumble in WWF so......I don’t think so.

7. I’m glad you can admit your personal prejudice prevents you from respecting his work. Plenty of other awesome matches. Hardcore? His match with Abdullah the Butcher. There’s also his match with Tatsumi Fujinami.

The only one out of that list that was as big as Hogan in Japan was Hansen. His matches with Vader were legendary...who can forget when he knocked out Vader’s eye. But Hogan’s matches with Inoki dwarf any work by Supp. I don’t think that’s arguable.

[Shadow Replication 1480]

1. http://forums.prowrestling.com/showthread.php?t=29205&highlight=Starrcade

So, he says Bischoff admitted to it. You have a BS rumor floating around the internet... Which one will I trust.
That guy doesn't even post the interviews themselves where Sting and Bischoff state that, so pardon me if I don't take the speculation from a place like prowrestling.com over someone like Dave Meltzer.

2. I have told no lies. You’re the one supporting your position on rumors.
Rumors like Hogan snitching on Jesse? That's a documented fact.
3. So, now Hogan was exclusively responsible for the Fingerpoke of Doom?
Nope, Nash and Bischoff take equally blame, as well. The Fingerpoke is an example of Hogan putting his own selfish crap before the good of the company yet again.

Creative control means you can so “no.” He didn’t book the matches or the finish. That was the creative team.
And I never brought up creative control to begin with...

4. I just love that everything that happened in WCW was all Hogan.
No, he just had a major hand in most of it.

You make it sound like he said “jump” and everyone in the company jumped.
Considering the shit he pulled in late 94 through 95, it would appear that way.

There are bookers, ya know.
Bookers mean nothing when you circumvent them by going to the president and getting it changed(more of an HHH thing pre-marriage than Hogan, though)

Hogan does not hold sole power in a company... Honestly.
Never said he did. How about actually reading what I type for once instead of trying to say something is there that isn't?

Unless you can show me evidence saying Wight was booked as he was only because of Hogan....I don’t care what you accuse him of.
Gee, a huge 7-foot tall man aptly named "the Giant" shows up and tries to kick Hogan's ass while wearing a singlet that LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE ANDRE'S! It doesn't *have* to be said, it's freaking IMPLIED.

5. Fall Brawl ‘95 says hi. The Giant appears to nearly kill Hogan. You know another guy named Earthquake? Hogan letting Earthquake and Giant do things like that put them in main event status.
First off, Fall Brawl 95? Please don't be talking about that incredibly shitty Monster Truck match they had on-top of whatever venue they were at that time that made Show almost "killing" Angle last year look like a death scene from a Deniro mob movie. Giant wasn't even on the card and Hogan was in War Games. Secondly, Earthquake was interchangeable with most of the multitudes of fat jobber heels he faced back then.

6. That would be why tons of people were wearing nWo t-shirts, I suppose?
The shirts were considered cool and the WCW faces looked like chumps so much that the fans stopped caring about them. There's a reason why you don't run "cool" heel stables for as long as the NWO lasted because the fans will regard the faces as useless when they've been punked so much and never give the heels their comeuppance. Like I stated before, it's freaking Wrestling 101.

And Hogan lost a lot as a heel.
Piper(via DQ), Luger, and Goldberg. Not exactly a "lot". Oh, I probably missed a couple of crappy tag matches in there, too.


Goldberg’s win over Hogan definitely helped his career.
Maybe if it was on PPV, but Goldberg was already super over before Hogan even came into the picture. Putting it on free TV was probably the dumbest thing WCW ever did in regards to Goldberg aside from letting Nash basically kill his momentum dead at Starrcade 98.

Give me a break. Hogan wrestled Vader when he was a heel? I remember Vader in the ‘96 Royal Rumble in WWF so......I don’t think so.
No, when the hell did I say that? I said I had an issue with him no-selling a move that legitimately paralyzed another wrestler. A near-fall or a foot on the ropes would have been just fine, not no-selling it and making Vader look like a tool.

7. I’m glad you can admit your personal prejudice prevents you from respecting his work. Plenty of other awesome matches. Hardcore? His match with Abdullah the Butcher. There’s also his match with Tatsumi Fujinami.
Ummm... what "personal prejudice"? Not being fond of Inoki? What the fuck does that have to do with Hogan? On the same token, I retain a similar dislike of Fujinami, but that has more to do with when he and Flair had two really crappy matches that served as my first experience of seeing him work.

The only one out of that list that was as big as Hogan in Japan was Hansen.
Let's see... Vader, Hansen, Johnny Ace, Terry Funk, Dory Funk, Brody, Foley(to a much lesser extent, obviously), Gordy, and probably quite a few more who're in or close to the popularity of Hogan in Japan.

His matches with Vader were legendary...who can forget when he knocked out Vader’s eye. But Hogan’s matches with Inoki dwarf any work by Supp. I don’t think that’s arguable.
Errr... "Supp"? You mean Bob Sapp? That guy sucks as a pro wrestler. Hogan is lightyears better than that guy even when he's horribly broken down like he is now.