Artists who redifinend(and redfining) music

[mow]

just as the title implies post the artist that you think influnced an entire generation. theres only one rule, post 2 artist or band names with every post you make.
my chice

1)BEATLES ( as if you couldnt see that coming)
2)U2

edit:- GUYS CHECK THIS OUT BEFORE POSTING
heres what were gonna do, every week Ill name a band or an artsist and we'll discuss their music. Yuo can list your fav. tracks and cds by that artits, discuss why you liked it and in general, what made that artist's music unique.
Agreed? ( ill take that as a yes)
okay this week's band:-

RADIOHEAD

[souske_05]

1)metallica
2)slipknot

[demon-wind-ninja]

1)Beatles (moe is even more awesome because he likes the Betales)
2) Linkin Park ( not real good now but when they began)

LMAO can't think of anymore bands at the moment so i will post on this one :D moe is the smartest person I've met plus he has good taste in music :p

[mow]

1)Coldplay (a brilliant band abnd they are so underratted its disgusting, ppl should be talking about them all the time!)
2)Radiohead ( thom Yorke is simply put, a genious that is second to none)

[GrotesqueMind_1]

Hmm.. I can tell your an oldschool rocker like me and my old man.:)
Let me think now. Pinkfloyd, Metallica and the Doors to name some

[demon-wind-ninja]

1) 3 doors down ( same as linkin park)
2)Coldplay ( i just needed a name so i used the band that moe said)

this place is the smartest thing ever made and moe can we use the same band more than once per post???

[GrotesqueMind_1]

What about Rush? lol fan of old school

[skunkworks]

3 Doors Down? Linkin Park? You're kidding, right?

[demon-wind-ninja]

3 Doors Down? Linkin Park? You're kidding, right?

no I'm not kidding but its ok you hate what i like because you have a neji pic :D

[Ryu]

1; Nirvana (My favourite band of all time)
2; Radiohead

[demon-wind-ninja]

1; Nirvana (My favourite band of all time)
2; Radiohead

1)Nirvana
2)Radiohead
OMG!!!!!!!!!!! i forgot about Nirvana :eek: how is that possible and yeah radiohead i guess

[Lee_Owns_All]

3 Doors Down? Linkin Park? You're kidding, right?
Agreed. Both these bands suck. THey have not changed music at all.
Heres my list:
Beatles
Bob Marley
Ranicd - Formed after Operation Ivy
Operation Ivy - Started by members of Rancid
Neal Young
Crap, i forgot about nirvana also!! One of the best bands ever!

[demon-wind-ninja]

Agreed. Both these bands suck. THey have not changed music at all.
Heres my list:
Beatles
Bob Marley
Ranicd - Formed after Operation Ivy
Operation Ivy - Started by members of Rancid
Neal Young

1)Beatles
2)Coldplay
:o pfft i don't care its what i like *sniffle*

[Ryu]

coldplay! *love* mellow, beautiful music and gorgous lyrics.. :) *happy sigh*

[DyersEve]

Nirvana- even though i don't really like them much at all, i can't deny that kurt cobain started grunge music.

Motorhead-some might argue that metallica was the defining band of speed metal, but motor head came far before metallica, was one of the first.

Black Sabbath-they are one of the most innovative bands ever, almost every
band i listen to i find black sabbath similarites and inspirations.

KoRn-they started the whole nu metal genre and well... they rock.

Green Day/The Offspring- i put these two together because the albums smash and dookie came out around the same time, those two were kind of the roots of future punk bands.

Ramones/Sex Pistols/Clash- about the same reason as above, only far earlier.

Pink Floyd- nuff said.

Queen- " " "

can;t really think of much else right now

[demon-wind-ninja]

Nirvana- even though i don't really like them much at all, i can't deny that kurt cobain started grunge music.

Motorhead-some might argue that metallica was the defining band of speed metal, but motor head came far before metallica, was one of the first.

Black Sabbath-they are one of the most innovative bands ever, almost every
band i listen to i find black sabbath similarites and inspirations.

KoRn-they started the whole nu metal genre and well... they rock.

Green Day/The Offspring- i put these two together because the albums smash and dookie came out around the same time, those two were kind of the roots of future punk bands.

Ramones/Sex Pistols/Clash- about the same reason as above, only far earlier.

Pink Floyd- nuff said.

Queen- " " "

can;t really think of much else right now

1)Korn
2)(hhhhhmmmmmm was it Led zep :D )

you have an awesome avatar of Invader Zim :cool:

[GrotesqueMind_1]

OMG no 1 sed Ozzy

[skunkworks]

NWA did a lot for gangsta rap.

[B3H]

NWA did a lot for gangsta rap.

NWA practically made gangsta rap, along with Public Enemy.

[skunkworks]

True, true.

[EroKage]

1)Beatles (moe is even more awesome because he likes the Betales)
2) Linkin Park ( not real good now but when they began)

LMAO can't think of anymore bands at the moment so i will post on this one :D moe is the smartest person I've met plus he has good taste in music :p

WTF?? linkin park didnt influence nothing...the type of music they did had been done much before they did...the only thing is they were much more commercial so they got famous...

anyways how is it that people are forgetting such important bands like the following:

rage against the machine-started what is now called rap rock and nu-metal etc...first band to mixture rap with rock(in all there musics)

Nirvana-most important band of the 90's.influenced hundreds of other bands and still does nowadays.

The Cure-there reputation speaks for itself...

pink floyd-dark side of the moon is the best selling album ever

the beatles-obviously :rolleyes:

korn-although i only like the first album i do agree they were very important for the emerging sound of the late 90's, post grunge nu metal sound...

oh and i also dont think cold play have influenced a generation..though i do think that they are very good...i think radiohead were much more important and certainly influenced coldplay as they did so many other bands

how can you people even dare to compare sucky bands like linkin park and others to bands like these?

[mow]

Yeah I agree with you erokage, what I meant by this thread was bands that influnced , infulencing and ARE GOING to influnce in the many years to come, Coldplay is less that 10 years old but I see a bright future ahead of them

YEah NWA and Public Enemy made it all for rap, i take my hat of to them.

lests see a band ive missed, damn, you named all the bands i wanted to name Erokag!!!

1-Elliot Smith- if you havent heard anything by him, i suggest you run to the nearest cd store and listne to one of his albums. Beautiful lyrics accompined with sweet guitars. It sucks so badly that he died a year ago, and his new albnum just came out and ite really making me lament his passing away
2-Neil Young- lyrics at its best, your missing out if you havent heard anything by him.
3- JIMI HENDRIX - I cant believe nobody mentioned him yet! the god of electric guitar himself, every track is pure brilliance
4-

[Frogzila]

Haha

1) Pixies - um, influenced Nirvana for one, so I guess that would make them more influencial. Also made "Debaser", the greatest song to ever have existed.
2) and if were talking about redifining music, you might want to add Chuck Berry, who sort of, um, started rock and roll. But you know, i mean, linkin park has come out with the same album like 20 times, and im pretty sure thats never happened before.

[mow]

oh damn and I forgot about Queen! Nohemian Rhapsody is the perfect song.
edit:- GUYS CHECK THIS OUT BEFORE POSTING
heres what were gonna do, every week Ill name a band or an artsist and we'll discuss their music. Yuo can list your fav. tracks and cds by that artits, discuss why you liked it and in general, what made that artist's music unique.
Agreed? ( ill take that as a yes)
okay this week's band:-

RADIOHEAD

[GrotesqueMind_1]

I can name hundreds of bans, groups or people ... just hard to think of them all.

[EroKage]

oh man..radiohead...i have such good memories of them and listening to thjeir music...my brother used to listen to their cd's and i would go sit and listen to them too....i remember that my favourite song when i was a kid was fade out.i loved that one and nowadays i understand it is a really sad and depressing song...so it ROCKS even more...:p.i heard that he wrote that song when he was getting out of the bus and looked down.he saw a dead little bird and went home and wrote that song.that's what i heard...

[Amu]

Don't like Radiohead. Don't like Indie Rock in general.

[mow]

Radiohead radiohead, what can i say about my beloved radiohead

They have the best guitar sounds, regardless of the exmerimational music they add. I’ve haven’t heard guitar sounds like that in god knows how long. And Thom Yorke has an amazing voice. He has such depth of character and emotional strain. I adore Thom York, amazing song writer and his vocals ae extremely haunting, in some of his songs I feel like he has just entered a nigthmare and when he screams its as if he is speaking directly to my mind.
The guitarist and durmmer are wonderful and they have such talent and imagination

they transform rock into something youd never except could be made, trully remarkable in every aspect.

What cds I reccomend,
EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THEM, from their first arrival in "Pablo head" to the most infulencal cd in the past decade "ok Computer" to their lastest release of "Hail To the Thief". Every song will hit you right in your core and youll love every moment of it

My fav. songs:
Blowout, all of Ok Computer, Kid A (escpially A motion Picture soundtrack one of my fav songs of all time), Pyramid song, Polythene Part 1 and 2, 2+2=5, Sit down stand up,A wolf at the door ( the chorus is amaizngly smart)

[lemonlime]

hehe, I used to hate Raidiohead. I have no idea why, they are one of the best bands.

I wish I listened to them more back then, I still have only heard like 6 of their songs. But I do listen to Karma police like everyday :D

[Nakajima]

Umm...

Little Richard! All rockers need to pay tribute the the person who paved way for rock and roll.

LEd Zeppelin, goes without saying.

[skunkworks]

Radiohead is definitely a talented band, but I just can't listen to their music. It's too...blah.

[onlyelliot]

NWA practically made gangsta rap, along with Public Enemy.

Public Enemy shouldnt be put in the same catagory. They were way beyond any other rap group of their time or anytime for that matter in terms of what they did with their ability. Public Enemy wanted to inspire a POSITIVE change, so I dont think they should be catagorized with gangsta rap. Basicaly, I just have to much respect for Chuck D to do that to him.

Also, sorry, but I think Linkin Park is a bunch of overindustrialized no talent ass clowns. They just got big cause they were the first group to combine a couple of the most popular genres. And boo to Metalica also. A bunch freakin retards. Sorry you all are entitled to your opinions, I just have trouble with those two bands being so well liked.

Moe you rock for mentioning Elliott Smith. The only thing I have against ES is that he stole my name and put an extra T on it. BASTARD.

My pick for bands: Radiohead- most emotionaly charged and genuinely moving frontman ever Nirvana- totaly saved the genre of Rock if only for half a decade or so, now it is back to being all comercialized again Beastie Boys - I totaly love them for being idiots even though they are intelligent and talented, they do what they love. I dont know if there is any other group ever who I felt enjoyed making music as much as them OH and Bob Marley of course
Indie Band: Self, Pavement, Wilco, and Spoon

I love Radiohead for many reasons to many to name them...
Favorite songs- The National Anthem and Bullet Proof... I Wish I Was (I just think that is the most badass song name ever).
If you like Radiohead give Flaming Lips and Rufus Wainwright a try.

[NocturnalMe]

Hmm...good ol' Radiohead. Saw them perform 4 or 5 years ago. I've been a fan since I heard the "Creep" single off of Pablo Honey. They've really been able to evolve from the sound they started with to keep up with experimental and non-traditional rock styles. I'd say The Bends was their best album and "Idioteque" is a minimalist masterpeice. UNKLE was great too (Thom Yorke trip-hop side-band).

Public Enemy shouldnt be put in the same catagory. They were way beyond any other rap group of their time or anytime for that matter in terms of what they did with their ability. Public Enemy wanted to inspire a POSITIVE change, so I dont think they should be catagorized with gangsta rap.

I second that.

[Amu]

And boo to Metalica also. A bunch freakin retards. Sorry you all are entitled to your opinions, I just have trouble with those two bands being so well liked.

Go away...

[EroKage]

Linkin Park is a bunch of overindustrialized no talent ass clowns. They just got big cause they were the first group to combine a couple of the most popular genres.


i have to agree with you on this one...they suck and i hate the fact people think they are great musicians etc...

oh MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!

i forgot to metion the most important musician of the 90's along with Kurt Cobain...the one and only:

JEFF BUCKLEY

[mow]

oh MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!

i forgot to metion the most important musician of the 90's along with Kurt Cobain...the one and only:

JEFF BUCKLEY


DAmmit I was jsut about to say that :mad: , glad to see someone enjoys him as much as I do :)

also what about Bob Dylan? Show Dylan the love :D

[onlyelliot]

Go away...

Ok I guess I should give Metalica credit for kind of being the Naruto of bands. They are a bunch of idiots, but they work really hard and are determined so they suceed anyway. Which I actually would really appreciate them for if they didnt get such huge heads from it.
I would take Deftones, System of a Down, or even Slipknot over Metalica any day.

ANd fuck yeah to Jeff Buckley and Bob Dylan. Another two greats.

[Amu]

Metallica are idiots, yes; they really want to be heavy metal, but they're not, but they seem to think that because they were sucsesful, they are. But putting that aside, their songs are great; or at least their old ones were. Metallica have become rubbish, but come on, they're not as bad as Slipknot.

[mow]

Moe you rock for mentioning Elliott Smith. The only thing I have against ES is that he stole my name and put an extra T on it. BASTARD..
DUDE YOU ROCK TOO. Im glad I found someone who loves Elliot smith :D . Have you heard his new cd, the one he was working on before he died, "from a basmenton a hill" its a great cd and I recommend it to all of you This si great, I never though ill meet so much ppl who share simialr tastes in music like i do . ALL OF YOU ROCK BIG TIME :D


PEOPLE PLEASE READ THIS FIRST!!!!
if you want to post a band or an artists name talk about them more, mention your fav tracks and cds and why you loved them, what about the arists that makes them worth worshipping and so on

[onlyelliot]

Actually my best friend is totaly obsessed with Elliot Smith and he got me into him. At first, I wasnt too impressed by his music, but I thought his lyrics were great (even if they are a little disturbing). I think his later albums just got better and better compositionaly. I love the new I think it might be my favorite I thought it really showed his growth as a song writer. And although I am not a fan of commiting suicide (for much of the same reasons as Vash the Stampede), I must admit Elliott Smith did it in a really hardcore way (he freakin stabbed himself in the chest with a knife). Disturbing but hardcore nonetheless.

[makaveli11223]

tupac was a huge influnce in the rap game so wat biggie to bad they couldnt live longer. a lot of artist would not be here if it wasnt for them.

[GaaraOfTheDesert]

"The Sex Pistols" in the uk...

why? ->> nevermind the bolox + their other albums but especially NTB

'nuff said

and in the US: The Ramones, all their albums

[Amu]

Black Sabbath anyone? Heralded by many as the creaters of metal.

[Wave]

tupac was a huge influnce in the rap game so wat biggie to bad they couldnt live longer. a lot of artist would not be here if it wasnt for them.
yeah, i agree with all the things you said. now most rap artists in mainstream like lost their ways...their all saying the samething nowadays. the only good rappers left are the ones that are in the underground

[SoulFire]

I dont like him at all. But i have to give props to Moby
I'll also put in the Cranberries and Van Halen.
Also; i cant believe no one has mentioned the King, Elvis Presely
Linkin park is complete and utter crap, i cant believe people even mentioned them.
Also; Billy Idol, Madonna and Michael Jackson.

It may not count, but MTV has pretty much defined every genre there is :)

To the guy who dissed Metallica; Your need to move away. Eventough you dont like them you cannot say they have not had a BIG part in rock when they first started, the Black Album pretty much redefined rock as it was. Everything after that does suck.

Currently there are NO artists who are defining anything, they are just raping music as it is for the bigger part. These days music really sucks when you serieusly compare it to like the 80's and 70's

[NocturnalMe]

Currently there are NO artists who are defining anything, they are just raping music as it is for the bigger part. These days music really sucks when you serieusly compare it to like the 80's and 70's

hah! I agree with you if you mean "no mainstream" artists are defining anything. Try Error, Federico Aubele or Madvillain. Rock has gone where it's gonna go. Electronic music, Punk and Hip Hop all have vast areas waiting to be explored and these artists are making way.

Error most of all. They will rip out your a***ole and hand it back to you.

[Jaggan]

Yeah...listen to the grandads XD Uhm..I'd have to say The Cure. I just recently started listening to them...but it all sounds so new. With most bands i have a deja-vu feeling...not with The Cure. ^^ But who am I? XD

[mow]

Actually my best friend is totaly obsessed with Elliot Smith and he got me into him. At first, I wasnt too impressed by his music, but I thought his lyrics were great (even if they are a little disturbing). I think his later albums just got better and better compositionaly. I love the new I think it might be my favorite I thought it really showed his growth as a song writer. And although I am not a fan of commiting suicide (for much of the same reasons as Vash the Stampede), I must admit Elliott Smith did it in a really hardcore way (he freakin stabbed himself in the chest with a knife). Disturbing but hardcore nonetheless.

in my opinion Elliot smiht and neil young are among the best song writers of all time. Elliot smith makes depression and sadness so beautiful, i love him so much, i still cant believe he's genious isnt around us anymore, and his not that famous! how can some one that talented and incredible not be talked about evry moment of the day? this world is insane!

[Aeries]

Streetlight Manifesto- A NJ ska band that plays a positive mention on life. I don't mean they're like preachy and crap, but just read some of their lyrics. They have three x-members of Catch-22.

Franz Ferdinand, The Strokes, and Rancid will always be awesome. I have to add The Pillows here with them. They all all have great lyrics, aswell as great instrumentals.

When it comes to rap, the only good artists that come to my mind are Tupac and Eminem. Granted Eminem's song aren't all good, but there a number of his songs that have great messages in them; politically and on the subject of personal issues.

Oh, and how did I manage to forget Billy Joel?

[Quile]

Can I just list "influencial" artists instead of talking about them? XD I feel like most alternative/electronica artists would credit the following for their influence anyway, and I'm not exactly in the mood to give lengthy reasons and droning mentions of discography.

- David Bowie
- The Cure
- The Smiths
- The Art of Noise
- Joy Division
- New Order
- Blondie
- The Clash
- The Velvet Underground
- The Stone Roses
- The Police

[LaJon]

Queen, Beatles, Barry Manilow ;)

[slurgeon]

The Stooges - Come one guys, how come no one has mentioned Iggy and The Stooges. These guys helped pave the way for all most every type of alternative music that exists today. They were punks before punk rock. Check "Search and Destroy", "I Wanna Be Your Dog", "1970", "Gimme Danger" and tell me that these guys didn't set the stage for the "alternative explosion" that would not take place until way over a decade later.

David Bowie - If you don't know who he is there is no hope for you.

Public Enemy - They scared the hell out of white America with their eggy, hard hitting, political lyrics. Regardless of what you thought about their messages, chances are you felt it. "Fight the Power", "By The Time I Get To Arizona".

[NocturnalMe]

Ah, yeah! The Stooges (and Iggy)!!! Good call Slurgeon!

[GaaraOfTheDesert]

iggy and the stooges are very good yes :O

another group who redefined a music style: The cockney rejects, they created Oi

[occasionalutopia]

i forgot to metion the most important musician of the 90's along with Kurt Cobain...the one and only:

JEFF BUCKLEY

Agreed! ^_^ The good man immortalised Hallelujah. I love Leonard Cohen but only Jeff's voice could do full justice to that song. Only complaint I have is that twinge of disappointment that happens when you've heard all the records of an artiste dead and gone and wish there was more to keep you sated. I found relief in Ours - their vocalist Jimmy Gnecco sounds eerily like Buckley. So if any of you are avid Buckley fans, give them a listen.

And although I am not a fan of commiting suicide (for much of the same reasons as Vash the Stampede), I must admit Elliott Smith did it in a really hardcore way (he freakin stabbed himself in the chest with a knife). Disturbing but hardcore nonetheless.

You know the greatest irony? His father is (was?) a psychiatrist. I can't even imagine how heart-wrenching it feels to have all the theoretical knowledge in the world that would supposedly help your own son's depression, only to have it end that way. At least he left us with some beautiful records - let's hope he's in a better place :)

Radiohead this week eh? I had the pleasure of seeing Thom and crew earlier this year - I got the strangest fuzzy feeling in my stomach watching him tease us with his piano on You and Whose Army. I love that song so much and was over the moon when he played it ^_^ I like how they've evolved - the OK Computer-Kid A transition was brilliant.

Some groundbreaking artistes that come to mind:

Massive Attack - One of the pioneers of trip-hop and paved the way for Portishead, Sneaker Pimps etc.

Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan - Thanks to this qawwali legend, world music became cool. Kinna Sona still sends shivers up my spine.

[mow]

Radiohead this week eh? I had the pleasure of seeing Thom and crew earlier this year - I got the strangest fuzzy feeling in my stomach watching him tease us with his piano on You and Whose Army. I love that song so much and was over the moon when he played it ^_^ I like how they've evolved - the OK Computer-Kid A transition was brilliant. .

*drool* you had to rub it to us? lucky !#@$!#$ lol, i love Yuo and whose army, such a magnifiecnt trak, i love everythign radiohead made

[occasionalutopia]

Have you tried that mind-f*ck that is their website? I swear I saw strange things after awhile XD If it makes you feel any better, I missed Damien Rice, Mark Kozelek and Elvis Costello this year, and I'm going to miss PJ Harvey X(

[Deserteur]

Queen
The Doors (How come no one mentioned them)
Michael Jackson
Queen
Jefferson Airplane
The Beatles
Depeche Mode

[SoulFire]

In the category rap i will add Karim and LL Cool J. Both are lyricists of an un-matched level, and if you do not know them, i sugest you do soem research =]

[NocturnalMe]

also another golden-boy of rap is Pete Rock. He was more on the production side, but was instrumental in some of the biggest early hip hop chart toppers.

[GeaRZ]

Black Sabbath is one of the those bands which defined the metal genre.
Bands like Iron Maiden and Metallica, pretty much refined the metal genre.

[fanime]

ok I'm gonna name an artist who redefines classical music:

Nigel Kennedy

Listen to his album "The Kennedy Experience" and you know what I mean.

Btw it's inspired by the music of Jimi Hendrix

[fanime]

And nobody mentioned Beastie Boys before..shame on you ;)

[onlyelliot]

And nobody mentioned Beastie Boys before..shame on you ;)

Yes I did, back on page two. And they damn right should be mentioned, because they have done more to bend their genre than pretty much anyone out there. They are also just so great to listen to because you know they love what they do.

[mow]

Okay this week's band

U2

lets the discussion begin!

[fanime]

Yes I did, back on page two.
Sorry, my bad :)

And they damn right should be mentioned, because they have done more to bend their genre than pretty much anyone out there. They are also just so great to listen to because you know they love what they do.
They (re)defined "crossover" (rock-hiphop etc.). The rest is history...

[onlyelliot]

I have such mixed feelings about U2. Yeah they are talented and have some great songs, but sometimes i just feel like they try to hard. Then again any band with a guy name The Edge in it is OK by me.

[NocturnalMe]

I agree that sometimes U2 tries to hard, but that's just how they do it i guess. They definitely have enough great songs to gain my respect, but alot of them are the kind of thing that I don't want anyone else to see me jamming out to.

[mow]

U2 are great beacuse they were ordinary, real, passionate and mainted artistic control over their activities, not by being manufactured and packaged in accordance with current trends. I believe that gives many of us hope of achieving great things ourselves.

U2's music is a music of contrasts, from the darkness of Exit and Love Is Blindness to the light of Beautiful Day or Sweetest Thing, from the traditional (Van Diemen's Land, Running To Stand Still) to the contemporary (Elevation), from the wide open spaces (Where The Streets Have No Name) to the claustrophobic (Acrobat), from gospel (I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, Rejoice) to the music of the Devil (The Fly).


when i listen to them i get goosebumps, somehting in bono's voice sends shivers down my spine, every song is a magical expreince in my opinion, they are original and the fact they are such strong activities makes me adore them even more.

[EroKage]

oh man...i guees i like u2...but...i dont know why i have always had something i dont like about them...maybe its the fact that all their musics sound alike or the fact i really dont like them...there are a couple of songs i like to hear but it has to be old u2...this new u2 is hrrible..just utterly horrible..ever since "A Beautiful Day"that ive come to like them even less...and that awful tomb raider song...@_@.all and all they have been an important band...but just not one i appreciate.