View Full Version : Tell people to keep their kids off the rotten internet!!
Mellenia
07-21-2009, 04:06 AM
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/5740763/fourth-geelong-student-commits-suicide/
A grieving mother has blamed the internet for the death of her 14-year-old daughter.
Police are also blaming cyber bullying for the suicide of Geelong student Chanelle Rae, who died last Friday.
She is the fourth Western Heights College student to take their life in the last six months, The Geelong Advertiser reports.
Karren Rae said her daughter "wanted to die" after receiving an internet message on Friday night.
She said Chanelle was having trouble with some friends from school, but it was a minor issue that had not changed her mood at all.
"I laid in bed with her and we discussed it for about an hour and she left me fairly happy," she said.
Karen and her husband, Ian, returned home about an hour later to discover their daughter had committed suicide.
"I want to tell people to keep their kids off the rotten internet, it's a horrible place," she told the Geelong Advertiser.
"I can guarantee you that if she didn’t go on the internet on Friday night she'd still be alive today."
Karren described her daughter as "happy and beautiful" and was "loved by everybody".
"I don't blame the girl either, these are just kids throwing comments at each other for God's sake, but she (Chanelle) obviously could not see past what was going to be done to her," she said.
"When you're 14 years old, who knows, if you don't think you've got any friends... maybe that's not worth living and obviously it wasn't for her."
Former Victorian premier and beyondblue chairman Jeff Kennett said the school's students and staff were bound to be hurting but that it was important not to sweep the issue under the rug.
"It needs to be talked about openly within the school community and there needs to be a positive response to avoid it happening again," he said.
"I hope they have a very heavy program for helping the students cope with these sad events and to help them develop mechanisms for coping with change.
"It's very sad for those who are gone but it is even worse for those who are left. But they shouldn't be blaming themselves because there is only so much you can do."
Morphine
07-21-2009, 04:12 AM
Poo girl. What could have shook her so much? What a message. :-(
Karol!
07-21-2009, 04:16 AM
"I want to tell people to keep their immature, irresponsible, hyper-emotional kids off the rotten internet, it's a horrible place," she told the Geelong Advertiser.
edited for truth
Bushin
07-21-2009, 04:27 AM
Isn't this news a bit old?
On topic: The internet seems to be a very convenient scapegoat for bad parenting. Internet causing teenagers to kill themselves?! :facepalm
Verdius
07-21-2009, 04:30 AM
Her name is Chanelle and she an hero'd because of the internet. Was she raised from birth to be 4chan's mascot or something?
Yami Munesanzun
07-21-2009, 04:30 AM
"I laid in bed with her and we discussed it for about an hour and she left me fairly happy," she said.
this made me laugh a bit. just found this single part a bit funneh :hurr
on topic:
yes, the intarwebz is a horrible place. but hell, so is life especially now-a-days:argh
but hell, if she really believes the intarwebz is a horrible place, why did she have it in her household in the firstplace, let alone let her daughter go on, in the first place?
not agreeing with the maternal biatch, btw
Cirus
07-21-2009, 04:34 AM
My question is "Why was the parents of this kid more involved in their daughters life?" Seriously if the parents were involved then that wouldn't have happened.
Aokiji
07-21-2009, 04:36 AM
Lol at people denying the obvious bad influence the internet has over people. :lmao
I didn't know that shit like 4chan, rotten.com and people urging suicidal attention whores to kill themselves or making fun of kids with birth defects (in short all around human debris) happens IRL as well.
No it doesn't. Shut the fuck up.
Pilaf
07-21-2009, 04:44 AM
If your kids are so weak willed they commit suicide because of a little cyber bullying, the world is better off without them.
Cardboard Tube Knight
07-21-2009, 05:10 AM
Lol at people denying the obvious bad influence the internet has over people. :lmao
I didn't know that shit like 4chan, rotten.com and people urging suicidal attention whores to kill themselves or making fun of kids with birth defects (in short all around human debris) happens IRL as well.
No it doesn't. Shut the fuck up.
People forget that when someone gets online they're still a person. The same nerds that come online and pick on others would whine in school when they were made fun of. So they go and do the same shit to someone else to feel better about themselves.
If your kids are so weak willed they commit suicide because of a little cyber bullying, the world is better off without them.
ITT: Pilaf loves animals, hates humans.
LoboFTW
07-21-2009, 05:15 AM
Oh sure blame the internet for your bad parenting and hyper emotional child. For gods sake, you should know how temperamental your children are, blaming the internet is like blaming video games. Idiotic.
Cardboard Tube Knight
07-21-2009, 05:21 AM
Oh sure blame the internet for your bad parenting and hyper emotional child. For gods sake, you should know how temperamental your children are, blaming the internet is like blaming video games. Idiotic.
Except video games don't have intent. They don't poke fun at someone about specific faults and urge them to commit suicide.
Stop treating the internet like some ambiguous pre-programmed entity.
Kage no Yume
07-21-2009, 05:24 AM
Lol at people denying the obvious bad influence the internet has over people. :lmao
I didn't know that shit like 4chan, rotten.com and people urging suicidal attention whores to kill themselves or making fun of kids with birth defects (in short all around human debris) happens IRL as well.
No it doesn't. Shut the fuck up.
My God :oh.
For once, I'm going to agree with Aokiji in a Café thread.
If your kids are so weak willed they commit suicide because of a little cyber bullying, the world is better off without them.
Mental abuse is mental abuse :facepalm. And cyber bullying is worse than normal bullying in many ways, especially when it comes to girls:
1. Websites like Myspace and Facebook can be equated to the school cafeteria/assembly hall for most. It's now a big part of socializing for students. Think of having a site, like your friends, as not eating alone everyday.
2. Unlike the school situations, the comments made stay and are usually up for all to see. In a school situation it might float around for a bit, but unless it's permanently graffitied onto a wall it does not have such staying power, nor will it spread as quickly.
3. Add in the effect the internet has on people (turning even normally quiet kids into raging assholes) and you've set yourself up a pretty shitty environment.
4. You're no longer an adolescent. Recall a little thing called hormones.
5. Quite assuming shit about the parents. The internet really is harmful in cases like this, so to reiterate Aokiji's statement, shut the fuck up.
FrostXian
07-21-2009, 06:01 AM
The internet really can fuck some people up.
I mean, if we tried, we could probbaly push some of the people here to kill themselves.
Megatonton
07-21-2009, 06:03 AM
Which is why I warn my uncles and aunts to not let their child go into the internet unless they can emotionally handle themselves. It's a cold place for most, and you better be packing heat to survive. :pek
Megatonton. Badass internet warrior.
Zero™
07-21-2009, 06:08 AM
Just stay away from those shitty social sites and 4chan and you wont get fucked up.
Most likely.
Fojos
07-21-2009, 07:00 AM
I don't understand why people would suicide because they believe they have no friends on the internet. It's just weird. (Heck, using suicide as an answer when it comes to friends at all is just weak)
The Pink Ninja
07-21-2009, 07:03 AM
Lol at people denying the obvious bad influence the internet has over people. :lmao
I didn't know that shit like 4chan, rotten.com and people urging suicidal attention whores to kill themselves or making fun of kids with birth defects (in short all around human debris) happens IRL as well.
No it doesn't. Shut the fuck up.
Quoted for truth.
If your kids are so weak willed they commit suicide because of a little cyber bullying, the world is better off without them.
You're a waste of oxygen.
Tasmanian Tiger
07-21-2009, 07:32 AM
That's sad.
Don't take the internet too seriously.
LoboFTW
07-21-2009, 08:46 AM
Except video games don't have intent. They don't poke fun at someone about specific faults and urge them to commit suicide.
Stop treating the internet like some ambiguous pre-programmed entity.
The relation was that they are both stupid, not that they are similar.
Sejame
07-21-2009, 09:18 AM
What does her parenting skills have to do with this? Sounds like she was being a good parent and speaking it over with her daughter. If your kid is getting bullied it's kind of crap to have people blame you for it.
However, it's also crap to blame the internet for people being assholes.
I personally don't get the internet bullying thing, considering you can just block messages from certain people or ignore it entirely. I suppose with her being 14 and desperate for friends she was eager to get any kind of messages but suicide was taking it a bit far o.o
I'd be interested in seeing the kind of messages people who committ suicide get that causes them to go over the edge considering this isn't the first time this has happened.
Pilaf
07-21-2009, 09:19 AM
Idiots and fools who neg me for my comments, you must realize that Freedom of Speech is an Apex Value of the New World.
Far above your precious feelings or the lives of a few weak willed teenagers. As Christopher Hitchens said, you do have a right not to be physically attacked but nobody has the right not to have their "precious feelings" hurt.
If you disagree then you carry a sick hatred in your heart. You hate freedom and you're scum. You will rot in your own grave and I'll just go on and on, because I stand for decent secular values.
Idiots and fools who neg me for my comments, you must realize that Freedom of Speech is an Apex Value of the New World.
You have the right to sprout your opinions, we have the right to think you're a twat because of said opinions. Which by the way you are.
Far above your precious feelings or the lives of a few weak willed teenagers. As Christopher Hitchens said, you do have a right not to be physically attacked but nobody has the right not to have their "precious feelings" hurt.
Are you talking about the feelings of the people that negged you? Or the feelings of the girl? People have a right to not being bullied, she killed herself because she was being bullied not because she was offended by someone's opinion or anything like that. Oh and it's kinda funny. You post that because you're butthurt about being neg-repped. There's definetely some irony to be found there.
If you disagree then you carry a sick hatred in your heart. You hate freedom and you're scum. You will rot in your own grave and I'll just go on and on, because I stand for decent secular values.
Pre-emptive Ad hominem. I fucking love it.
If your kids are so weak willed they commit suicide because of a little cyber bullying, the world is better off without them.
You're essentially judging the worth of someone's life by the strength of their will. You kind of deserve all the neg rep you've apparently been getting.
Ramona Flowers
07-21-2009, 09:42 AM
http://i27.tinypic.com/8xu5qb.png
DeterminedIdiot
07-21-2009, 09:42 AM
feel bad for the girl. must have took alot to make her do that. but it still ended up it was her choice
Camomile
07-21-2009, 10:22 AM
However, it's also crap to blame the internet for people being assholes.
This. Internet =/= cyber bullying.
That said, it's understandable the mother is upset.
GrimaH
07-21-2009, 10:41 AM
My God :oh.
For once, I'm going to agree with Aokiji in a Café thread.
Mental abuse is mental abuse :facepalm. And cyber bullying is worse than normal bullying in many ways, especially when it comes to girls:
1. Websites like Myspace and Facebook can be equated to the school cafeteria/assembly hall for most. It's now a big part of socializing for students. Think of having a site, like your friends, as not eating alone everyday.
2. Unlike the school situations, the comments made stay and are usually up for all to see. In a school situation it might float around for a bit, but unless it's permanently graffitied onto a wall it does not have such staying power, nor will it spread as quickly.
3. Add in the effect the internet has on people (turning even normally quiet kids into raging assholes) and you've set yourself up a pretty shitty environment.
4. You're no longer an adolescent. Recall a little thing called hormones.
5. Quite assuming shit about the parents. The internet really is harmful in cases like this, so to reiterate Aokiji's statement, shut the fuck up.
I quote
http://i27.tinypic.com/8xu5qb.png
I know, that must have been really hard huh. Hard enough to prefer killing yourself. That's totally understandable and not retarded. I mean it's not like one can just get over a fucking internet message.
Besides, if she suddenly decided to kill herself after having resolved the issue with her parent, it must still have been the message, absolutely. We need to lock up the bastard who sent it in jail for 50 years for murder and let him get buttfucked by all the bank robbers, that'll teach the inhumane killer.
Oh, and close down the internet too, because it's baaaaad.
Next on the news, classes are next candidates to be shut down for harbouring such criminals.
Altron
07-21-2009, 02:19 PM
sad for the girl's family, though this is what happens when some people take places like Myspace and Facebook too far. Anyways being on the internet a long time isn't even good.
Fullmetal83
07-21-2009, 02:35 PM
How about these kids talk face to face instead of being fagalas. When i was a kid when kids got bullied they either fought back or was run over. Kids today need backbones.
Tokoyami
07-21-2009, 02:52 PM
Awwwww.
Good riddance.
Jagon Fox
07-21-2009, 02:55 PM
old news. and there were clearly other issues going on. some people are just extremely sensitive. too bad the old ironhides among us cannot take the time to comphrehend that, or that some of them forgot what its like to be extremely sensitive.
dilbot
07-21-2009, 02:55 PM
An heroes neither go to heaven or hell...they are merely absorbed into the internetz and become part of the beast from which slayed them...
horsdhaleine
07-21-2009, 04:22 PM
sad for the girl's family, though this is what happens when some people take places like Myspace and Facebook too far. Anyways being on the internet a long time isn't even good.
There are times when those social networking sites can make you paranoid instead more "connected" to your friends.
Facebook and friendster are really like online version of High school. :sag It's silly. People endlessly show-off through pictures, videos, public msgs and all that. They know people will sift through all these and they take advantage of it. That's why I only open them when I really need to - like msg a friend whose mobile phone I lost or something, or msg a former classmate whose abroad (it's not really practical to call them overseas, right?)... Less secure people would easily feel insecure because of those. I can't really blame the child. Who knows? It's possible that the kid has been bullied for quite some time now IRL and online. That one msg was just the last straw.
Internets not a horrible place, its the people in it that are horrible. But fuck its the internet if your going to let bullying effect you that much learn to stick up for yourself or ask for help.
Utopia Realm
07-21-2009, 04:32 PM
Oh sure blame the internet for your bad parenting and hyper emotional child. For gods sake, you should know how temperamental your children are, blaming the internet is like blaming video games. Idiotic.
And people still do it.
Cardboard Tube Knight
07-21-2009, 04:38 PM
Idiots and fools who neg me for my comments, you must realize that Freedom of Speech is an Apex Value of the New World.
Far above your precious feelings or the lives of a few weak willed teenagers. As Christopher Hitchens said, you do have a right not to be physically attacked but nobody has the right not to have their "precious feelings" hurt.
If you disagree then you carry a sick hatred in your heart. You hate freedom and you're scum. You will rot in your own grave and I'll just go on and on, because I stand for decent secular values.
Wrong, there's nothing that says speech doesn't have a consequence, everything has a consequence and you seem to not get that. Your weak willed shit is just you trying to feel big, because honestly a lot of teens are confused, depressed and have other issues. For you to be so so insensitive just shows a caliber of person and not look at other sides of things illustrates something.
http://i27.tinypic.com/8xu5qb.png
Problem with that is that all her friends would see this stuff too and might even bother her about it at school.
Internets not a horrible place, its the people in it that are horrible. But fuck its the internet if your going to let bullying effect you that much learn to stick up for yourself or ask for help.
Far too many people are intent on making it a horrible place it seems.
Forbidden Truth
07-21-2009, 04:58 PM
If your kids are so weak willed they commit suicide because of a little cyber bullying, the world is better off without them.
:facepalm
Anyway, I hate fags that cyber bully. I hope they catch them and punish them. I feel bad for the girl and her parents.
Cardboard Tube Knight
07-21-2009, 05:03 PM
I like how no one blamed the people who did it...
Danny Lilithborne
07-21-2009, 05:05 PM
I like how no one blamed the people who did it...
You hit the nail on the head so hard it broke the wood.
Miss Fortune
07-21-2009, 05:05 PM
Did anyone really know what actually happened between the kid and her parents? Let alone what happens to her at school?
No. So really, internet is actually much better than real life!
Forbidden Truth
07-21-2009, 05:06 PM
Did anyone really know what actually happened between the kid and her parents? Let alone what happens to her at school?
No. So really, internet is actually much better than real life!
Chances are, if she got cyber bullied, she probably got bullied in school, too.
neko-sennin
07-21-2009, 05:27 PM
The internet seems to be a very convenient scapegoat for bad parenting. Internet causing teenagers to kill themselves?! :facepalm
Yeah, I'd like to think there's more to this story, but I'm beginning to fear there isn't.
No matter how I try to frame it, the idea that random strangers-- or even vague acquaintances-- can somehow "ruin your life" that bad without ever being involved with you in the real world just does not compute.
When did people start to become so fragile?
At least if she was being harassed or terrorized in the real world, her desperation might make sense to me...
Danny Lilithborne
07-21-2009, 05:30 PM
When did people start to become so fragile?
Not to point fingers, but I think I can trace it all back to third-wave feminism. Feminism was fine when women were fighting to gain equal footing with men in society, but now they seem to want the right to regress back to traditional roles without losing anything they've gained from the fight.
Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki
07-21-2009, 05:31 PM
People forget that when someone gets online they're still a person. The same nerds that come online and pick on others would whine in school when they were made fun of. So they go and do the same shit to someone else to feel better about themselves.
What makes you blame the geeks? Why don't you blame the same people who likely bullied her irl to some degree. It seems they're much more likely to be involved.
Danny Lilithborne
07-21-2009, 05:35 PM
What makes you blame the geeks? Why don't you blame the same people who likely bullied her irl to some degree. It seems they're much more likely to be involved.
Okay, blame the real life bullies but not the cyber bullies. What's your point?
Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki
07-21-2009, 05:45 PM
Okay, blame the real life bullies but not the cyber bullies. What's your point?
What's YOUR point?
CTK attacked geeks in general. I say that it's more likely the attackers are the bullies she knows irl. Geeks seem more likely to be randomly attacking trolls.
horsdhaleine
07-21-2009, 05:48 PM
CTK attacked geeks in general. I say that it's more likely the attackers are the bullies she knows irl. Geeks seem more likely to be randomly attacking trolls.
This actually happens... someone you know IRL would stalk you online. :S
-= Ziggy Stardust =-
07-21-2009, 06:00 PM
guess she didn't know the internet s srs bzns
Femme fatale
07-21-2009, 06:39 PM
This is harsh but in my eyes, if your stupid enough to be that effected by something a stranger on the internet says, you deserve to die.
ninjaneko
07-21-2009, 06:46 PM
That's sad.
Don't take the internet too seriously.
Didn't you know? The internet is serious business, especially for teenagers. They actually carry what goes on online into their day-to-day life and social scene and vice versa.
Wat? :wha
This is BS, last year I was 14 and I could take nasty messages on the internet.
She was just weak or something...
neko-sennin
07-21-2009, 07:12 PM
CTK attacked geeks in general. I say that it's more likely the attackers are the bullies she knows irl.
Precisely. From what I've seen, it didn't take the Usual Suspects (the Clique Girls, the Jocks, the schoolyard bullies, and the less enlightened segments of the Back Row Tribe, among others) very long to learn how to use a keyboard and a cellphone. Unless the girl already had mental/emotional issues we're not being told about, the severity of her response makes more sense in the context of this cyber-harassment having a real-world counterpart in her daily life. Girls and women, especially, are much more likely to be preyed upon by people they at least know by name.
Geeks seem more likely to be randomly attacking trolls.
And, of course, that's not to say that, for all their intellect, there are some folks who are just emotionally incapable treating others any differently than they themselves have been treated. What goes around comes around. While 2 wrongs has never made a right, sadly, sometimes, 2 wrongs do make a point. But again, as Kojiro pointed out, that crowd is mostly just discharging all the static they've absorbed in the real world through random trolling, as personalized targeted campaigns of flaming are more likely to be directed that those the perpetrator is at least casually acquainted with.
Tuanie-sama
07-21-2009, 07:16 PM
wonder what was the message. poor girl.
there was a case some boy kill himself over some girl. a girl dumped him in WoW the mmorpg.
Masaki
07-21-2009, 07:19 PM
Karren described her daughter as "happy and beautiful" and was "loved by everybody".
Police are also blaming cyber bullying for the suicide of Geelong student Chanelle Rae, who died last Friday.
Karren Rae said her daughter "wanted to die" after receiving an internet message on Friday night.
She said Chanelle was having trouble with some friends from school, but it was a minor issue that had not changed her mood at all.
Wait a second...
Kyasurin Yakuto
07-21-2009, 07:26 PM
My question is "Why was the parents of this kid more involved in their daughters life?" Seriously if the parents were involved then that wouldn't have happened.
Most likely.
Yes there are horrible things on the internet but the internet in itself is not horrible. Like a lot of things there are both bad and good aspects.
I feel bad for kids that are about that age though online because yes they are more likely to get seriously emotionally hurt if they are bullied by other people online. Generally when you get a bit older, you might not like that it happens, but you aren't going to be destroyed by it. Young teens are very easy targets to becoming emotionally upset by being teased. It's that fragile time in life really.
Raiden
07-21-2009, 08:00 PM
edited for truth
Not necessarily.
Let me give you an example: A certain member on this forum once shared that his close friend just died. Someone else took it upon themselves to repetitively poke fun at the person.
My question is "Why was the parents of this kid more involved in their daughters life?" Seriously if the parents were involved then that wouldn't have happened.
Her parents were involved.
The mother and daughter both had a conversation and hour before this girl killed herself about a problem at school:
"I laid in bed with her and we discussed it for about an hour and she left me fairly happy," she said.
The girl left her mother with the impression that everything was fine. Nothing else that the mother could have possibly done.
T7 Bateman
07-21-2009, 08:10 PM
Sad about the girl. My prays go out ot her family.
Black Wraith
07-21-2009, 08:16 PM
I really don't understand all this cyber bullying crap.
Isn't this news a bit old?
On topic: The internet seems to be a very convenient scapegoat for bad parenting. Internet causing teenagers to kill themselves?! :facepalm
Everything seems to be a good scapegoat for bad parenting.
Gecka
07-21-2009, 08:20 PM
once you become a regular on the internet
you aren't human anymore
L. Lawliet
07-21-2009, 08:23 PM
"I can guarantee you that if she didn’t go on the internet on Friday night she'd still be alive today."
I realize that the mother did what was in her power to help her daughter, but denial like this absolutely disgusts me.
Yami Munesanzun
07-21-2009, 09:30 PM
teh internet is only as rotten and corrupt as the people using it :hurr
dummy plug
07-21-2009, 10:26 PM
the thing is, the internet aint asking anyone to use her. it doesnt have a life. its like blaming a gun for killing someone. its the people that should be blamed. i think being responsible is all that it takes. if you cant take the heat, then stay away from it. what's the point of logging in to get bullied then take your own life? seriously, kids are a bit sensitive nowadays. too much if you ask me. as for the other kids being a bully, well, i hope they grow a brain :oh
GrimaH
07-21-2009, 10:43 PM
I like how no one blamed the people who did it...
Person sent an internet message, let's lynch him!
Raiden
07-21-2009, 10:52 PM
i think being responsible is all that it takes. if you cant take the heat, then stay away from it.
Definitely. It would be bazaar if one bad run in online was all it took to make her committed suicide. Assuming that she was online to talk with friends, what's the point if bullying is totally destroying that experience?
Hand Banana
07-21-2009, 11:42 PM
Awaiting the new incoming "Internets will killz joo" memes to come storming in.
I don't understand why people mix real life so much with internet life. Seriously, why get all flustered by internet bullying? Those people are even more pathetic than yourself.
Kiyoka
07-22-2009, 06:58 AM
If the girl commited suicide because of a bit of text. Who's to say someone saying it to her in real life would cause the same effect?
Republican
07-22-2009, 07:04 AM
Isn't this news a bit old?
On topic: The internet seems to be a very convenient scapegoat for bad parenting. Internet causing teenagers to kill themselves?! :facepalm
As easy and nice as it is to believe that one of someone's favorite hobbies couldn't possibly be harmful and it must be the fault of someone else, the Internet can indeed be considered a stress-causing activity/place and stress can indeed lead to depression and suicide. It might not be this situation precisely but it's not always the entire fault of a parent or what have you.
Utopia Realm
07-22-2009, 08:45 AM
teh internet is only as rotten and corrupt as the people using it :hurr
There are so many of those kinds. Too bad this latest victim ran into them.
Hollow'd Heart
07-22-2009, 09:18 AM
That's sad to hear, but if the parents knew she had problems they should have cancelled the internet and went to therapy or called a hotline.
callinginsane
07-22-2009, 10:01 AM
Great , blame the internet .
Grrblt
07-22-2009, 11:01 AM
"I want to tell people to keep their kids off the rotten internet, it's a horrible place,"
The internet is not a place :blahblah
impersonal
07-22-2009, 12:14 PM
Poo girl. What could have shook her so much? What a message. :-(
She's dead, you can stop now.
Ripcat
07-22-2009, 12:17 PM
Its funny because i bet she was white. When was the last time you saw a black person commit suicide HAHAHA sometimes white people are stupid :P
Its funny because i bet she was white. When was the last time you saw a black person commit suicide HAHAHA sometimes white people are stupid :P
That comment was stupid. Suicide can happen to anyone. Stop being ignorant .:apathy
Ontopic:This is why people should keep their guard up at all time,even on the internetz.
Ripcat
07-22-2009, 01:23 PM
Im being ignorant, lol i bet the percent of white peoples suicides are at least 90% higher
so i really don't think im being ignorant here :p
ChocoKitty ♥
07-22-2009, 01:27 PM
Excuse for bad parenting? ._.
Some kids really need help, they take things on the internet too seriously..
Byakuya
07-22-2009, 01:28 PM
lol @ taking the internet seriously
Ripcat
07-22-2009, 01:35 PM
yeah that's for sure why would someone kill their self because of the internet
it just beats me and all you can say is hey their white :)
Kagemizu
07-22-2009, 03:57 PM
The World Wide Web, it is interesting how when you think about it.This young girl was just another fly feasted upon by the Spiders that are on the internet. Darwinism has gone digital. If you cant take bullying IRL getting online with the same emotional mentality around the same people will only lead to you pwning yourself. Sorry for her but what was the message sent that broke her will to live.
Republican
07-22-2009, 04:09 PM
The internet is not a place :blahblah
It basically is for all intents and purposes.
Blaze of Glory
07-22-2009, 04:15 PM
:facepalm
This is ridiculous for an online place people really have to take their emotional selves all up here? What sense doe that make? :apathy I thought you came on here to have fun rather than to tell people your sob story. Join a goth clique if you want to talk about it because to be brutally honest not everyone in a thread on a forum or commentatorrs on your blog are gonna say "Oh you poor thing" Check youtube commentators they're the same they'll call you names. I'm sorry yes I am an asshole but I have no sympathy whatsoever for this little girl.
UkkiThePlant
07-22-2009, 05:06 PM
Instead of seeking to "tell people" about the evils of the Internet, those who are concerned that the Internet will lead their child/children to suicide should be making sure they raise their children knowing how to differentiate the real from the digital. This person says that if her daughter had not gone on the Internet on one particular day, she would not have ended her life? No. If this girl had not spent her entire life believing that the Internet is as important as reality, then she would not have killed herself.
Toroxus
07-22-2009, 05:36 PM
Usual excuse for bad parenting
Republican
07-22-2009, 05:39 PM
People on the internet are malicious fartholes who love to belittle others. Obviously it's the fault of the parent for not completely and utterly shielding their child from the horrors of the real world (which make up most of the internet).
UkkiThePlant
07-22-2009, 05:46 PM
People on the internet are malicious fartholes who love to belittle others. Obviously it's the fault of the parent for not completely and utterly shielding their child from the horrors of the real world (which make up most of the internet).
No, it's the fault of the parent for not teaching her child that she is not defined by the malicious Internet users.
Republican
07-22-2009, 05:51 PM
There's only so much you can tell a kid before they make the rest of the choice themselves and there's no one "right" way to teach someone. Some people are more brittle than others. We're all different and we all fall at different stress levels.
Maybe this case MAYBE it's the parents but not everything can be shoved off to the parents. There's the nature of the world and it is really hard to change.
UkkiThePlant
07-22-2009, 05:56 PM
When raising a child, one has plenty of time to impart ideas. I still say please when I ask for things.
syrup
07-22-2009, 05:57 PM
She is the fourth Western Heights College student to take their life in the last six months, The Geelong Advertiser reports.
huh college...14 year old...confused
UkkiThePlant
07-22-2009, 06:04 PM
She is the fourth Western Heights College student to take their life in the last six months, The Geelong Advertiser reports.
huh college...14 year old...confused
:lmao
Either it's a poorly named high school (or middle school), or the Geelong Advertiser just lost a whole lot of credibility.
Onomatopoeia
07-22-2009, 06:16 PM
I am instantly suspicious of the circumstances surrounding this suicide.
What kinda sites had this girl been visiting, fucking 4chan?
No one kills themselves over an internet message. The girl obvious had problems.
------------------
Scenario 1: Oh boohoo, someone insulted me on this here internet board. /wrists
Scenario 2: Oh boohoo, someone insulted me on this here internet board. I'm just not going to visit this internet board anymore.
All right class, which of these things is what you would do if you weren't crazy?
------------------
I'll tell you another thing. I got 20 saying she contributed to the attack by saying(paraphrased of course) "MY LIFE SUCKS FEEL SORRY FOR ME!"
Luciana
07-22-2009, 07:20 PM
Karren described her daughter as "happy and beautiful" and was "loved by everybody".
She said Chanelle was having trouble with some friends from school, but it was a minor issue that had not changed her mood at all.
"When you're 14 years old, who knows, if you don't think you've got any friends... maybe that's not worth living and obviously it wasn't for her."
...
anyway.
apparently this kid didn't have friends and was bullied on the net?
or something along those lines.
if you're getting bullied in X place why the heck are you still visiting said site?,thats just moronic.
OR you either go to other site or you stop using the damn computer.
If she was bullied and didn't have friends well it was for some reason.
Internet is full of ppl who loves to mess with the others,But
Internet is also full of sites where you wont get bullied,there are tons of them where is practically impossible to get bullied because of the mods.
And there are actually ppl that wants to make friends...
i have no sympathy for this girl...
"When you're 14 years old, who knows, if you don't think you've got any friends... maybe that's not worth living and obviously it wasn't for her."
Thats called bad parenting.
for short if she suicided its was because she had problems.
and stupid parents...
UkkiThePlant
07-22-2009, 07:28 PM
Karren described her daughter as "happy and beautiful" and was "loved by everybody".
She said Chanelle was having trouble with some friends from school, but it was a minor issue that had not changed her mood at all.
"When you're 14 years old, who knows, if you don't think you've got any friends... maybe that's not worth living and obviously it wasn't for her."
...
anyway.
apparently this kid didn't have friends and was bullied on the net?
or something along those lines.
if you're getting bullied in X place why the heck are you still visiting said site?,thats just moronic.
OR you either go to other site or you stop using the damn computer.
If she was bullied and didn't have friends well it was for some reason.
Internet is full of ppl who loves to mess with the others,But
Internet is also full of sites where you wont get bullied,there are tons of them where is practically impossible to get bullied because of the mods.
And there are actually ppl that wants to make friends...
i have no sympathy for this girl...
"When you're 14 years old, who knows, if you don't think you've got any friends... maybe that's not worth living and obviously it wasn't for her."
Thats called bad parenting.
for short if she suicided its was because she had problems.
and stupid parents...
Good job with conflicting statements. You say the blame lies with the parents but also say you have no sympathy for the girl. If the fault lies with anyone other than the girl, then she deserves sympathy.
Also, the examples you have leading up to that statement, in a word, suck. You seem to be assuming every site this girl visited was a forum like this one ("there are plenty of sites where it's nearly impossible to get bullied because of the mods").
Tranquil Fury
07-22-2009, 07:45 PM
Cyber Bullying forced someone to commit suicide? What kind of site was this exactly?. Why even go to such a place? You're not obligated to go to that site.
Nemesis
07-22-2009, 07:50 PM
If she was bullied and didn't have friends well it was for some reason.
Yes there could be a reason 99% of them being stupid. She may not have enjoyed the stupid shit most teens get up to. She may have been intelligent by getting the highest grades or not as intelligent and getting the lowest grade. She may have been the best looker in the class or even the worst looking (by that i mean natural before all the make up and stuff is put on).
I mean kids and teenagers can be bastards and bully for no reason at all. Just some people can be easy targets.
Yakushi Kabuto
07-22-2009, 08:32 PM
I’m skeptical about how “fairly happy” the girl was after having the talk with her mother. Even the very young are very good at hiding how they really feel. Yes, things people say on the internet can be hurtful. But I am someone who believes there could always be more to a story. And of course, I don’t see why the internet as a whole should be called rotten. There’s so much good that can come from it. It has even probably saved people who felt they had nowhere to go.
saprobe
07-22-2009, 08:53 PM
While I don't disagree with the premise of keeping your kids off the Internet this sounds like a real-life social problem.
She is the fourth Western Heights College student to take their life in the last six months, The Geelong Advertiser reports.
She said Chanelle was having trouble with some friends from school, but it was a minor issue that had not changed her mood at all.
It sounds like that school is full of nasty, vindictive bitches who get their claws into people. The Internet is just another tool for cruelty at their disposal.
Ravin
07-22-2009, 09:52 PM
What happens over the internet directly relates to what you do and what you reveal.
Also, if she was 14 how was she in college? Am I missing something here?
Hand Banana
07-22-2009, 10:05 PM
Im being ignorant, lol i bet the percent of white peoples suicides are at least 90% higher
so i really don't think im being ignorant here :p
Thank you Captain Obvious. And while white people are getting killed on teh interwebz. Black people are getting killed hanging on the corner and other stupid behavior. While eating a bucket of the Colonel's secret recipe chicken (which btw is just Texas Pete).
neko-sennin
07-23-2009, 05:32 PM
People on the internet are malicious fartholes who love to belittle others.
Yeah, the more I've thought about this over the years, the more I've come to realize that people these days really aren't any more rude/pathetic/petty than they were before, it's just that inventions like cellphones, internet and other devices have simply given people newer, more disruptive toys with which to express their rudeness.
Republican
07-23-2009, 05:35 PM
The world has been full of trash but now the trash has wings.
Grrblt
07-23-2009, 05:38 PM
It basically is for all intents and purposes.
It is not even close to being a place.
Casyle
07-24-2009, 01:09 AM
Wow, I really feel for the family, though I never cease to be shocked, sadly, that someone would take their life because they were called names or bullied...
And I never cease to be shocked at this knee-jerk reaction some of you have to blame the parents. For heaven's sake parents can only do so much! Kids are not robots that you can program to do everything and anything you want. They think for themselves, and they do stupid things. Parents can't be freaking everywhere and do everything.
First Tsurugi
07-24-2009, 01:15 AM
I want to feel bad but...
I can't really feel bad for people who kill themselves because some anonymous users who they don't even know insulted them. :sag
I want to feel bad but...
I can't really feel bad for people who kill themselves because some anonymous users who they don't even know insulted them. :sag
This
anon650 called me a fag
BAAAAWWW
[becomes an hero]
Kinda hard to pity that:zaru
Tsukiyo
07-24-2009, 04:54 PM
i know that there was a girl who hung herself cause of myspace.......turns out it was like the neighbors :uwah
it reminds me of this article....you can't take things seriously
Keiichi Song
07-24-2009, 06:45 PM
I don't know how to feel right now, you want to feel bad and give pity but some where inside you, it like you here this kinda crap all around the internet
vBulletin® v3.7.2, Copyright ©2000-2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.