Akaboshi - Ibun Suikoden

[Austeria]

AKABOSHI
異聞水滸伝
[Akaboshi - Ibun Suikoden]By Amano Yoichi

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8923/akaboshi.jpg

Publication
Weekly Shonen Jump (debuted in WSJ 2009 #25, May 18, 2009)

Summary
108 heroes gather under the Taitengyoudou flag to destroy the rotten Sung Dynasty. The burning Red Star delivers the message of the world's dawn, that it will become "akaboshi" - the morning star.

Online scanlation (http://mangahelpers.com/m/akaboshi-ibun-suikoden)

Discuss. :awesome

[Batman]

:awesome <----- first reaction :drool <----- second reaction

[Austeria]

:awesome <----- first reaction :drool <----- second reaction
:wth <----- third reaction

WHERE'S MAH CHAPTER 2! :wth

BTW I'm still not sure if "Akaboshi" is really the main character's name. :P Is it?

[Jetstorm]

^Chapter 2 won't be released until this week's Weekly Shonen Jump comes out.

Read this one yesterday. It was alright from what I saw. If this can be a great adaption of the Chinese epic like Houshin Engi this could be good. Although 108 characters is a lot to cover.

[Austeria]

^Chapter 2 won't be released until this week's Weekly Shonen Jump comes out.
I know that. :P

Read this one yesterday. It was alright from what I saw. If this can be as great adaption of the Chinese epic like Houshin Engi this could be good. Although 108 characters is a lot to cover.
I heard it's based on a novel but I don't know if it's based on real legend. Do you think it will actually cover all 108 characters? I mean, some of them could be fodder.

The thing that stood out to me was the art, the unique main lead, and the style as a whole. I also love the fact that the protagonist seems rather like an antihero.

[~Ageha~]

i liked the first chapter the main character was cool. and the art was great. and i think the guys name is Taisou.

[Jetstorm]

I know that. :P

lol my bad.


I heard it's based on a novel but I don't know if it's based on real legend. Do you think it will actually cover all 108 characters? I mean, some of them could be fodder.

The thing that stood out to me was the art, the unique main lead, and the style as a whole. I also love the fact that the protagonist seems rather like an antihero.

Yeah, it is based off of one of the 4 Classical Chinese Novels from what I see. It depends on how the mangaka wants to handle it I suppose. If it is too much some characters may only briefly show up at times.

The art is the biggest attention grabber to me as well.

[Mider T]

108 sounds kind of tiresome...

[Batman]

It's the art that got me. Pretty astounding when it wants to be, and smacks of familiar.

[Karotte]

Really interesting. I'm going to follow it, but the art really looks sorta familiar.

[Don Quixote Doflamingo]

i've been waiting for this series since jump made it's announcement back in April :)
but i kinda worried about it, i mean his last serielized manga started alright and i like it too. but it got cancelled :(
i never know what makes it gor canceled and how did the last chapter turns out :( does anyone know :)
i just hope this manga will go trough the "20 chapter of death" and go trough 20 chapter or more :LOS

[illmatic]

The first chapter was pretty text heavy. Akaboshi is one of the main characters(Taisou) nicknames I think (Akaboshi = Morning Star).

[Yakushi Kabuto]

I also found the style of this series to be powerfully attractive and the funny faces are great. Whenever I look at his sword I just want to give it a flick to see if the tip will come flying off because of that giant hole in it. xD I also do like the lead, looking forward to seeing what other kind of characters are brought forth.

[Waveblade]

The colour pages were beautiful and I'm definitely going to read it tomorrow (On a network with a faster internet speed.)

[emROARS]

This story has a lot of potential. I really like the first chapter and I really can't wait to read more.

[~Ageha~]

i do not think the manga will go over all the 108 heroes. but only Taisou he is a member of the group. this is the summary of the manga on mangafox

Approximately 900 years ago in year 1112, China is in the Sung Dynasty, China is slowly destroying itself.Now, a legendary hero is born, Taitengyoudou, the "Falling Star" rumored to be able to turn into a fireball and run. He has a band of 108 chilvarous thieves named Taitengyoudou and they are the ones to save the decaying land of China. He meets a girl that pretends to be him and now the story begins...

[Felix]

This first chapter was great, loved the art and the concept
A good shounen it seems
On my weekly read list

[Eldritch]

This seems like The Ravages of Time (I've still got to read it) except with exaggerated shounen super powers

[Felix]

This seems like The Ravages of Time (I've still got to read it) except with exaggerated shounen super powers

And that is a good thing
Is Chapter 2 available somewhere?

[Jugger]

And that is a good thing
Is Chapter 2 available somewhere?

raw is out http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/details/29872

[Cochise]

I read a chinese scan of the first chapter, obviously I missed a great deal. Do they have a english scan out. Link please.

[dwabn]

just read the first chapter and all i can say is wow. this is the shit. im definitely followin this manga

[~Avant~]

This is a pretty good series. Just read the first two chapters. I'll sleep on it until it reaches the the 20 chapter mark though, and see if I'll pick up on a weekly basis from their

The art style actually reminds me a lot of Katekyo Hitman Reborn

[Don Quixote Doflamingo]

why isn't there anybody scanning the 2nd chapter :(

[Austeria]

Chapter 2 (http://www.mangafox.com/manga/akaboshi_ibun_suikoden/v01/c002/) scanlated thanks to Franky House!

Ho yes. Bring on the real stuff. Finally a real villain.

[Jetstorm]

Didn't care too much for the chapter until the monk came. Although it did have its humorous moments. 3rd chapter should be better.

[Felix]

I just love the main characters attitude
He seems to be completely uninterested in everything, which is awesome :LOS

[Jugger]

I just love the main characters attitude
He seems to be completely uninterested in everything, which is awesome :LOS

Yeah thats why i like him too

[MrCinos]

Suikoden is my favourite JRPG series so I couldn't miss this http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6312/hmlolkz3.png

The first two chapters didn't seem much interesting for me though, except for that monk guy at the end. But I like concept with 108 stars and will follow this in hope that with such a number of characters it will turn into something epic.

[Graham Aker]

Read chapter 1, it was meh. Dropping it because it seems like that Suiren character is going to be mainstay.

Nice art though.

[Austeria]

Read chapter 1, it was meh. Dropping it because it seems like that Suiren character is going to be mainstay.

Nice art though.
What's wrong with Suiren? She's like early DB Bulma! (I'm sure you at least read DB?)

[Graham Aker]

What's wrong with Suiren? She's like early DB Bulma! (I'm sure you at least read DB?)
Are you kidding me? Did you ever read Dragon Ball at all? :apathy

Bulma wasn't an insufferable justice freak who does pointless things, supposedly in the name of justice, that makes everyone miserable. Bulma was fun, Suiren is annoying.

Anyway, as I said, I'm through with this series. And unless Suiren leaves permanently or better yet, is killed off, I won't be reading this series. Shame though, the art is pretty nice.

[Felix]

In chapter 2 she is tolerable really

[Dimeron]

I heard it's based on a novel but I don't know if it's based on real legend. Do you think it will actually cover all 108 characters? I mean, some of them could be fodder.



Yep, it is based on the four classical literature of Chinese history. They are:

"Journey to the west". I don't think I need to explain this one. :P

"Romance of the three Kingdoms". Another very famous one.

"Water Margin". Which is what this manga (as well as the rpg series Suikoden) is based on. Not quite as famous as the two above internationally.

"Dream of the red mansion". Probably the least well known internationally. Mostly because it deals with love/betrayal/rich snobs/political corruption etc instead of war, monkey, bandits, and all the other stuff. Would make one kick ass Shoujo series though.

[Yakushi Kabuto]

Haha, Taisou actually tried to make her carry him. Pretty nice how he turned the elite checkpoint guy's words around against him. Wonder why the monk was looking for the lead. :O

[Felix]

This is weekly right?
Which means we should have a RAW/Scan this weekend? :awesome

[Jugger]

raw is out http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/details/31542

That monk was his friend and in the end there are some new strong guys. Lol he dragged that girl while fighting and running fast :laugh

[Austeria]

Are you kidding me? Did you ever read Dragon Ball at all? :apathy

Bulma wasn't an insufferable justice freak who does pointless things, supposedly in the name of justice, that makes everyone miserable. Bulma was fun, Suiren is annoying.

Anyway, as I said, I'm through with this series. And unless Suiren leaves permanently or better yet, is killed off, I won't be reading this series. Shame though, the art is pretty nice.
Bulma is a screaming, weak, tag-along. Pretty obnoxious too. They're similar in that sense while they obviously share their differences.

Oh, well. Adieu and hope you find a series to your liking.

Yep, it is based on the four classical literature of Chinese history. They are:

"Journey to the west". I don't think I need to explain this one. :P

"Romance of the three Kingdoms". Another very famous one.

"Water Margin". Which is what this manga (as well as the rpg series Suikoden) is based on. Not quite as famous as the two above internationally.

"Dream of the red mansion". Probably the least well known internationally. Mostly because it deals with love/betrayal/rich snobs/political corruption etc instead of war, monkey, bandits, and all the other stuff. Would make one kick ass Shoujo series though.
I need to read the last three. I only know Journey to the West.

And that last one seems the most appealing to me just from your description. Sounds like Jane Austen plus political stuff. Which is always interesting.

[.access timeco.]

I am REALLY liking Akaboshi. Seriously.
Taisou is great so far, the art is catchy and the humour is pretty good as well (loved the pigeon scenes).
It also seems to have everything the fans love, so I hope it doesn't get cancelled for lack of popularity.

About the "Akaboshi" part. It is not the main character. Akaboshi means 'morning star'. The main character is 'falling star'.
If I understood it right, the Taiten Gyoudou is trying to rebuild China and make it become the 'morning star' (the strongest country in the world (thus its "leader")?). So "Akaboshi" is not a character, but the Taiten Gyoudou 'utopia'.

About the monk in the end of the ch.2... well, he appeared in the colorspread (first chapter) with the other members of the Taiten Gyoudou, so it's pretty obvious he is not a villain.

[fxu]

If anybody wants the poster from chapter 1.

http://www.shonenjump.com/e/game/img/akaboshi_1280_960.jpg

[.access timeco.]

Ok, if anyone is interested, about characters in ch.3:
Chinese original name/Japanese name

- The monk's name apparently was not revealed, but his epithet was: the tattooed monk. Therefore, according to the novel, his name is Lu Zhishen/Ro Chishin.
- In the last page, two new guys. The bearded one is identified as Wang Jin/Ou Shin. Since the long haired guy with him is part of the 108 members (he was in the color spread), he is most likely Shi Jin/Shi Shin, the 'nine dragons' (btw, Wang Jin is is not one of the 108... he is Shi Jin's master, though)

[Austeria]

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3909/vlphp251289.th.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/vlphp251289.jpg/)

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5072/vlphp251292.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/vlphp251292.jpg/)

I am REALLY liking Akaboshi. Seriously.
Taisou is great so far, the art is catchy and the humour is pretty good as well (loved the pigeon scenes).
It also seems to have everything the fans love, so I hope it doesn't get cancelled for lack of popularity.

About the "Akaboshi" part. It is not the main character. Akaboshi means 'morning star'. The main character is 'falling star'.
If I understood it right, the Taiten Gyoudou is trying to rebuild China and make it become the 'morning star' (the strongest country in the world (thus its "leader")?). So "Akaboshi" is not a character, but the Taiten Gyoudou 'utopia'.

About the monk in the end of the ch.2... well, he appeared in the colorspread (first chapter) with the other members of the Taiten Gyoudou, so it's pretty obvious he is not a villain.
Thanks for the clarification! :love

And yes, I see a tremendously huge potential from the premise of this series. I'm really hoping it will be able to survive WSJ's notorious first 20 chapters of death.

If anybody wants the poster from chapter 1.

http://www.shonenjump.com/e/game/img/akaboshi_1280_960.jpg
:wtf

Thanks!

Ok, if anyone is interested, about characters in ch.3:
Chinese original name/Japanese name

- The monk's name apparently was not revealed, but his epithet was: the tattooed monk. Therefore, according to the novel, his name is Lu Zhishen/Ro Chishin.
- In the last page, two new guys. The bearded one is identified as Wang Jin/Ou Shin. Since the long haired guy with him is part of the 108 members (he was in the color spread), he is most likely Shi Jin/Shi Shin, the 'nine dragons' (btw, Wang Jin is is not one of the 108... he is Shi Jin's master, though)
Thanks again. I'm very interested in these details so it's good that you posted these tidbits. :amuse

+rep.

[Jetstorm]

3rd chapter was released.

I'm a bit disappointed that the monk wasn't an enemy after all but at least we got more information about who the real enemies are. Also that apparently all 108 members aren't gathered at the start like some people thought they would be.

[Jugger]

Main character did come more awsome in chapter 3 bossing his superior thats badass.

[.access timeco.]

Yeah... they romanized Ro Chishin's nickname instead of translating it (to "tattooed monk")... looking at the translated chapter, it's like his name is "Kaosyou"

But, well, I guess that was the mangaka's fault since he was introducing everyone by their names and in this single case decided to use the epithet instead of the name.



RAW of chapter 4 is out and...
Another Taiten Gyoudou member introduced: Shi Qian/Ji Sen, the "Flea on a Drum".

And Shi Jin looks awesome.

[~Ageha~]

the new heroes look cool

[Austeria]

:wtf

The new characters look so awesome! I'm so loving this manga!

Next chapter want now! :yell

[.access timeco.]

The scanlation is out already. Thanks, I Eat Manga!!!

And I was wrong. The long haired guy was not Shi Jin, but Lin Chong/Lin Chuu - the Panther Head.
Weird, it's not that I know the novel (I don't), but I didn't found anything relating Lin Chong to Wang Jin (Ou Shin) o___O oh, well, someone who actually knows the story could explain this (or if the mangaka is simply changing things).

And the chapter was better than I thought. Taisou keeps amazing me.

[Felix]

The scanlation is out already. Thanks, I Eat Manga!!!

And I was wrong. The long haired guy was not Shi Jin, but Lin Chong/Lin Chuu - the Panther Head.
Weird, it's not that I know the novel (I don't), but I didn't found anything relating Lin Chong to Wang Jin (Ou Shin) o___O oh, well, someone who actually knows the story could explain this (or if the mangaka is simply changing things).

And the chapter was better than I thought. Taisou keeps amazing me.

The author is probably taking aritistic freedom within the Manga

[Jetstorm]

Read it. I just can't seem to get into this. .____.

I think I'll try to read all four chapters over again and see how I feel then. :-(

[Random Member]

Looks like subtlety isn't a strong point for Taisou. :lmao

I predict Oushin's assistant to kick ass next chap.

[T.D.A]

Manga keeps getting better and better

[Austeria]

Chapter 5 scanlated!

http://www.onemanga.com/Akaboshi_-_Ibun_Suikoden/5/01/

I like Rinchuu! And he's got some interesting backstory already. :amuse

I wonder who his "dad" is. Seems like we might encounter him again in the future, with his ties to the chivalrous thieves.

Also, does anyone have the latest Jump ranking? How's Akaboshi doing? I hope it's not doing bad.

EDIT: Nvm, found it.

Issue 29:

Toriko (Cover and Color)
Naruto
One Piece
Bleach
Beelzebub
Inumaru
Medaka
Iwamoto Naoki / Kuromitsu-sama Mairu! (One Shot & Color Pages)
Reborn
Akaboshi
Sket
Kuroko
Mago
Eyeshield 21 (Color Pages, Extra Pages & End)
Gintama
Kochi
Bakuman
Psyren
ToLove
Hoop
Jaguar

Not bad, still in top 10. Though I hope it will stay on top of Medaka next week. It was before.

[Jugger]

it was going down same ranks like medaka box. Probably edidors decide those ranks

[Random Member]

Nice fight. Can't wait to see the conclusion next chap.

[Austeria]

it was going down same ranks like medaka box. Probably edidors decide those ranks
Rankings come from readers' questionnaires. And that's how they determine which series to cut. Starting series are in the highest danger of being cut. It's tough competition in Jump.

[Jugger]

Rankings come from readers' questionnaires. And that's how they determine which series to cut. Starting series are in the highest danger of being cut. It's tough competition in Jump.

that no really the truth i did read somewhere oda comment about editors doing most of ranking. Those votes have some meaning but i really doesn´t matter that much.

[Austeria]

that no really the truth i did read somewhere oda comment about editors doing most of ranking. Those votes have some meaning but i really doesn´t matter that much.
The head editors decide which ones to cut but the readers' rankings are what they partially base their decisions on. Of course there are other factors, but why do you think newcomer series which don't do well just practically vanish from Jump within their first 25 chapters?

Read Bakuman for more details about the inner workings of Jump.

[Jugger]

The head editors decide which ones to cut but the readers' rankings are what they partially base their decisions on. Of course there are other factors, but why do you think newcomer series which don't do well just practically vanish from Jump within their first 25 chapters?

Read Bakuman for more details about the inner workings of Jump.

do you really think that they would that kind of thing in bakuman? It wasn´t even confirmed from jump. Well atleast 5 firs chapter has been decided by editors how the hell 2 new series go down by same rankings.

[Austeria]

do you really think that they would that kind of thing in bakuman? It wasn´t even confirmed from jump. Well atleast 5 firs chapter has been decided by editors how the hell 2 new series go down by same rankings.
So you're saying the editors decide that Medaka Box and Akaboshi should just go down the same? :oh

I'm not gonna argue any further but of course Jump isn't giving official statements on the ranking system. But there are other sources (i.e. Oda's interview) giving people insight on how it actually works inside Jump's happy face. And there's a reason why people worry so much about these rankings. Because it's been proven time and time again series which don't do well get the cuts.

And that's that on this matter. Let's not talk about anything else not pertaining to Akaboshi.

[T.D.A]

New series get properly ranked after 8 chapters.

[Hexa]

that no really the truth i did read somewhere oda comment about editors doing most of ranking. Those votes have some meaning but i really doesn´t matter that much.Oda makes a comment in the SBS. The ToC is decided by the sub-chief editor of Shounen Jump. It's not really the case that the ToC is a strict ranking of the popularity of manga from 8 weeks ago, but it is true that the popular manga are moved toward the front and the less popular manga are moved toward the back. And what decides what is popular? The votes.

We won't be able to tell if Akaboshi is popular for a while.

[Jugger]

Oda makes a comment in the SBS. The ToC is decided by the sub-chief editor of Shounen Jump. It's not really the case that the ToC is a strict ranking of the popularity of manga from 8 weeks ago, but it is true that the popular manga are moved toward the front and the less popular manga are moved toward the back. And what decides what is popular? The votes.

We won't be able to tell if Akaboshi is popular for a while.

Ok i understand it now. But those votes don´t always tell truth there is alwasy vol sales

[.access timeco.]

That's true, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is an example. It was normally in the end of the JUMP, but it's tonkohons always had high sales.

Well, chapter 6 will reveal more about the Taiten Gyoudou:
Following the order of the spread (names are in Chinese/Japanese... the last one is the one used in the manga, of course):
. Sun Erniang/Sun Jijou (or simply Mrs. Sun), the "Female Yaksha/Ogre".
Well, it's the woman...

. Zhang Qing/Chou Sei, the "Guard".
Two things worths of note here. First: according to the novel, there is two men called Zhang Qing among the 108. In chinese and japanese it works out because they are written with different kanjis, but I have no idea how the scan groups will handle this when the other one appears in the manga XP)
Second: in the novel, his title is the "Gardener" but the mangaka apparently decided to change it (he did the same with Taisou... in the novel, he is the "Magic Traveller" not "Falling Star").

. Jiang Jing/Shou Kei, the "Magic Mathematician".

. Wang Dingliu/Outeiroku, the "Lightning".
Once more a title changed, but just the kanjis... the translation is the same as in the novel.

.Gongsun Sheng/Kousun Shou, the "Dragon in the Clouds".

.Liu Tang/Ryuu Tou, the "Red-Haired Devil".

[emROARS]

chapter 6 is on one manga

http://www.onemanga.com/Akaboshi_-_Ibun_Suikoden/6/

[Random Member]

I wonder how Taisou was planning to defeat Oushin when he had trouble with Rinchuu. :oh

[Daelthasaar]

Great add for SJ since ES21 and Neuro ends are two great loss.

[Jugger]

I hope akaboshi can keep it up there is 3 new series coming soon if what raw-paradise says is right

[Austeria]

I hope akaboshi can keep it up there is 3 new series coming soon if what raw-paradise says is right
What?! :C

Akaboshi better stays in the top ten.

BTW good chapter. It seems like Oushin and Rinchuu will join the Taitengyoudou!

[BadassTaisouIsBadass]

New chapter raw is out:

http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/read-online/37518/1

Looks like the new villain turns out to be a pushover. He really can't handle two badasses at the same time, afterall. Though I have to admit that the spear-arrow thingy was quite sick.

Just want to point this out: if you haven't played any of the Suikoden games or even just familiar with the game series, you'll definitely get lost with the happenings in this manga. 108 Stars of Destiny means that the main hero (probably Taisou, though I might be wrong) will be recruiting 108 non-fodder characters. And being a big fan of the Suikoden series, I expect great and "epic" things to come from this manga. Future character designs will certainly be awesome, I assure you.

Back on topic, Rinchuu and Oushin will definitely join the Taitengyoudou, since Oushin is now branded as a "traitor" by the empire. What I want to see in action next is that Dragon Cloud guy, Kousonsyou (reminds of Pesmerga and Clive from Suikoden 2). Silent guys are usually awesome and nothing short of badass in terms of fighting techniques.

Patiently waiting for scanlations/translations...

[Gecka]

Based on the Chinese novel Shui Hu Zhuan, about the trials and tribulations of a band of outlaws during the mid Song dynasty.
It is 1112, the middle kingdom (China) is in turmoil with the present Sung dynasty's government unable to control its own provincial officials from preying on their people. But tales of a band of outlaws punishing these abusive officers called "Taiten Gyoudou" is spreading. Their deeds are giving people hope, so begins an encounter between Suiren, a young village girl believing in the outlaws, and a member named "Falling Star" Tai Sou.

I gotta say, the characters are what really caught my eye

http://www.onemanga.com/Akaboshi_-_Ibun_Suikoden/

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00003722/000186562/01.jpg

[Mider T]

In b4 merge

[Gecka]

shut up mider

god damn banana

[Mider T]

http://i35.tinypic.com/icvbtj.png

[marquisa]

Back on topic, Rinchuu and Oushin will definitely join the Taitengyoudou

Yes..Rinchuu a.k.a Lin Chong the leopard headed will definitely join the Taitengyoudou (in Chinese => Ti Tian Xin Dao = Bring out the will of Heaven), but Oushin isn't part of 108 heroes...maybe he is the one who will teach Shi Jin the nine-tatooed dragon some combat skill ^^

Dragon Cloud guy, Kousonsyou

Yes..this Kousonsyou or GongSun Sheng nicknamed Dragon in the Clouds will be magician of this Taitengyoudou team ^^

[Felix]

The manga is indeed starting to grow on me. I'm getting used to the cast and the main character. I still don't know their names though, but it seems it's a problem of mine recently. Having Chinese names doesn't help as well. Anyway, love the art, however sometimes it seems the panels are way to cluttered. I'm to used to Bleach and Naruto it seems, but I don't have that problem with One Piece. It's worrying though that the Manga is getting ranked low on Jump, it's a shame, the story holds promise (108 non fodder characters, hell yeah) and the current chapters are good.

Let's see how it goes. (Chapter 11 out on One Manga)

[Random Member]

Anyway, love the art, however sometimes it seems the panels are way to cluttered.

That's one of my main issues with this manga too.

I'm still managing to enjoy it as well though.

Kousanjou is a nice addition to the cast (pretty convenient that there just happens to be 3 tickets for the winners of the test :LOS). I've been feeling that Suiren's presence as of late was becoming completely nonexistent and a waste of space but with the new chapter it seems she'll get some development soon. Kousanjou seems to be stealing the spotlight though. :lmao

[.access timeco.]

@Random Member
It was not convenient, it was a lie. He simply said there was 3 tickets because the 3 of them were the only strangers in there since all the others fake contestants are from his group.



Anyways, I am in love with Kosanjou. The trio surely is funny as hell. However, as Felix said, Akaboshi is ranked REALLY low in SJ so unfortunately it seems the manga will be canceled in the next months unless something happens and it gets really popular suddenly :/ I am hoping the tankohon sales will be high, so it can stick around even without receiving lots of votes in the SJ (like To-Love-ru).

[Random Member]

Ah, I see. It looked like Suiren was the only one of the group to pick up on that.

I'm hoping Kosanjou's introduction and this new arc is enough to give the manga a boost in the rankings at least by a bit.

[Mider T]

Chapter 14 out on onemanga. I gotta say, this is really hard to get into but I'm sticking with it.:-(

[God Movement]

Chapter 14 out on onemanga. I gotta say, this is really hard to get into but I'm sticking with it.:-(

Huh? I love it. When's chapter 15 coming out? :(

[Maria Ushiromiya]

Is it true that they are cancelling this manga?

[Gecka]

yeah, it's true:(

[Maria Ushiromiya]

When...? :(:(:(:(:(:(:(

[Mider T]

Maybe, it just...is an acquired taste, hard to pull you in the overall story and to see what each chapter has to do with it.

[Maria Ushiromiya]

WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????

[God Movement]

Is this all finalised or what?

[Eldrummer]

The summary of this manga interested me but i want to read more than 2 volumes. Last week I saw the table of contents for the other weeks on rawparadise and there was a "#43: Akaboshi (End?)".

I entered there today and it isn't more. There's ToC until #42. So, does it mean Akaboshi will "survive"? I didn't read it but it seems promising as a long adventure manga.

[Felix]

I also noticed that Raw Paradise has removed the cancelation note of Akaboshi. It might survive the axe, but since it's doing a bit poor in the ratings, I can't imagine it surviving for much longer

Then again, Psyren made it, so there might be hope for Akaboshi

[Ralphy♥]

I read the first chapter and though it was decent for what it is. Shounens tend to have rather shallow beginnings with the story being filled in much later in the series. I'd say it's the same here however as far as the plot goes Akaboshi can become very episodic in nature due to the main leads approach to simply trying to counter China's problems on his own terms. every Shounen needs that deadly organization with 6-10 characters with impeccable character designs and a show of charisma. Similar to the likes of Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece. If Akaboshi can assimilate the however cliche' Shounen formula. It should be okay. I'll continue to follow it and see what happens.

[Felix]

So everyone stopped reading this?
I did when I heard it was going to be canceled 3 weeks ago, but it did not, and it's getting interesting now (I've read chapter 17), I really think this is a good Shonen, but it's confusing due the vast cast and chinese names :argh

But still, it needs more fans :awesome

[Ralphy♥]

I spent my night reading through the majority of Akaboshi - Ibun Suikoden chapters that Ive missed out on and I have to say I like what I'm seeing thus far. The series itself doesn't pose anything new to the genre of Shounen, but I find it to be irresistibly enjoyable for what the series is. As in it's a battle manga with a tendency to lapse in Gag sub themes. I can't even estimate the amount of times I laughed while completing my read. Weather it was the characters actions or there facial expressions, it had a nice underlying sense of hilarity that I thought was carried over very well.

The mangaka Youichi Amano does a great job with his art. It has a rather oriental Chinese feel too it that's just more aesthetically pleasing to look at. Youichi can be very detailed in his work, then make the switch to being ridiculously simplistic which seems to contribute to the establishment of gag related jokes. I found the introduction of Kaosyou to be amazing, it's easily one of my favorite panels in the manga. I think you can really get a feel for the serious nature in which his character was introduced. I really wasn't expecting him to be one of Taisou's allies as well as a member of the Taiten Gyoudou.

http://i33.tinypic.com/wt7udv.jpghttp://i34.tinypic.com/sc42tg.jpgHowever shallow it is to admit, I found that there was a definite cool factor in that scene. The dark undertones seemed to put an even greater emphasis on the seriousness this scene entailed. What I found most interesting was just how different Kaosyou's character actually was. It actually seemed like he was a warmhearted monk rather than a vicious killer. As I read through the manga it really becomes all the more apparent as to just how underrated the artwork to this series seems to be.

On the other hand once comedic scenes in the manga are established the artwork takes a turn toward gag to further enhance the feel for hilarity the series attempts to convey. I had to laugh at the Master Tiger companion that accompanies Taisou. I mean the change in the artistic approach is just so drastic but it seems to contrast so well. I found this panel to be extremely hilarious, note Suiren's expression.

http://i36.tinypic.com/do6qty.jpghttp://i35.tinypic.com/sfgmjt.jpgI just love the comedy used in the series thus far. Taisou's expressions really are hilarious and put a smile on my face every time. I'm really enjoying his interactions with Rinchuu and Konsanjou . This prompt me to show another scene that made me roll out of my seat in blatant laughter.

http://i35.tinypic.com/1zbc9hh.jpghttp://i36.tinypic.com/4ptu69.jpg:lmao, epic horse ride for the win!

I'm really becoming more and more absolved in Taisou's character. I just can't make out what he's thinking and feeling. I think that might actually be the best part about his character, since Youichi has yet to let the audience in on any serious emotional connections within the characters of this series.

This isn't to say that there hasn't been any character development shown thus far, on the contrary there has been quite a bit. I think it remains most prevalent and seen in Suiren and Rinchuu's characters. I'm hoping that soon I can get a chance to see Taisou's character expanded upon a little more. I think fan's will show a positive response to a little more development. Taisou seems like a great character and I really want to see a more emotional side to him, perhaps a back story will help in connecting the series's audience with its characters.



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This chapter we seem to get introduced to a group of government hired assassins. There character designs are fairly nice and I really like the killer panda promptly named RanRan. Its so malicious yet ominously adorable. My only quarry in regard to these character introductions is that we get too many of them. With merely eighteen chapters we have such a large array of characters thus far. I think the series should simply focus on the characters it has at present rather than getting ahead of itself and over stocking it's character roster. We get some pretty great action scenes this chapter, namely Taisou fight with Tenzanyuu.

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[God Movement]

Wow a whole review?

[Ralphy♥]

Wow a whole review?Haha, well I wouldn't go as far as calling it a review. I believe it's more along the lines of simply being a detailed recollection of my thoughts. If I had written a review for the series, I would have put more of an emphasis on minute detail and have created a much better thesis on each chapter as a whole. It all may very well have been pointless ramble with virtually no cohesion, but I wanted to get my thoughts out at least before I went to bed :hurr.

In regards to the story as a whole the introductions of all these new characters seems to have become somewhat of a quagmire. As a reader you can't really follow any one individual since there is such a large array of characters with seemingly no focus. If the story can compensate with the characters it has at present and make an attempt to center itself, we may have something special on our hands.

I'm quite taken with the art style and comedic approach, if nothing else those quality's that have been instilled within this series will undoubtedly keep me reading. It'll be interesting to see what direction Youichi plans to take the story. I think I'll make a nesting within this thread and continuously post my thoughts via comments, It'll be nice to see more avid fans join me.

[Eldrummer]

I am not reading this yet and wont be for the next few months. The historical approach kept me interested so i'm rooting for this series sucess. It has a lot of potential and i hope it make through at least 5 volumes.

[God Movement]

Haha, well I wouldn't go as far as calling it a review. I believe it's more along the lines of simply being a detailed recollection of my thoughts. If I had written a review for the series, I would have put more of an emphasis on minute detail and have created a much better thesis on each chapter as a whole. It all may very well have been pointless ramble with virtually no cohesion, but I wanted to get my thoughts out at least before I went to bed :hurr.

In regards to the story as a whole the introductions of all these new characters seems to have become somewhat of a quagmire. As a reader you can't really follow any one individual since there is such a large array of characters with seemingly no focus. If the story can compensate with the characters it has at present and make an attempt to center itself, we may have something special on our hands.

I'm quite taken with the art style and comedic approach, if nothing else those quality's that have been instilled within this series will undoubtedly keep me reading. It'll be interesting to see what direction Youichi plans to take the story. I think I'll make a nesting within this thread and continuously post my thoughts via comments, It'll be nice to see more avid fans join me.

Well, I'll always be posting. This manga has potential lets just hope it doesn't get dropped it's been pretty great thus far.

[Mider T]

Chapters 19-20 out onemanga.

[Jetstorm]

21 is out on Mangatoshokan as well. The way the last chapter was structured gives me the feeling its heading towards an end. The series has gotten much better in comparison to the beginning but even with current chapters ranked it has actually dropped more.

Cancellations are likely to start happening in issues 49, 50, and 51-52 depending on how many go. If this gets the axe, we will know over the next 3-4 weeks.

[God Movement]

Hopefully it doesn't get cancelled it has potential.

[Felix]

It has been getting low scores. It's always in the bottom 3-5
Which is a shame really

[Jugger]

It has been getting low scores. It's always in the bottom 3-5
Which is a shame really

Yeah and there are manga like jaguar, Wajimanija, inumaru dashi that doesn´t even get tranlated. Why fuck those manga can continue. They don´t have any change in world market. Well one of those 2 new that don´t get tranleted will have it first real ranking.

[Jetstorm]

Yeah and there are manga like jaguar, Wajimanija, inumaru dashi that doesn´t even get tranlated. Why fuck those manga can continue. They don´t have any change in world market. Well one of those 2 new that don´t get tranleted will have it first real ranking.

Those are all gag manga and only take up 7-9 pages. They don't get translated because the internet scan community does not give them the time of day. Anyway, Japan focuses on Japan first. Whether they get translated online is irrelevant.

Jaguar actually sells very well for a gag manga and it is placed in the last spot on purpose for each issue. inumaru has been consistently ranking in the top 5 for over 6 months now. Waji is actually a wild card.

If you aren't ranking high enough to avoid the bottom 5 regularly and you aren't selling enough to compensate for it that makes you a candidate to be on the chopping block.

Akaboshi has only gotten out of the bottom 5 twice out of its 20 something chapters. That makes it the most likely to get killed off after Kagijin bites the dust first.

[Pandaza]

if they cancel this I would cry myself to sleep. You do have to admit though, Japan's taste in anime/manga are different. Like how lucky star is freaking godly and a lot of ppl enjoy whereas I do not enjoy it one bit.

although I do wish akaboshi survives by some miracle

[Yoshi-Paperfold]

I really think this series has potential, and I would be upset if it was canceled, but I can understand why it would get the axe. What has been summed up in twenty-one chapters should have been stretched out to at least a year (fifty chapters). The author introduced way too many characters. There is just too much going on in the chapters, and in the beginning of a series that is a bad thing. s(he) doesn't even given you time to get use to a character before s(he) introduces another batch of characters.

Maybe the author will get a chance to do another series if this one gets cut. Is this the first manga published by this author?

[Pandaza]

I think it was a bit too easy for taisou to gain his star power although his swords looks KEWL as hell

[Mider T]

Chapter 21 out now too:awesome

[Quincy James]

I just started reading this, it's so excellent. :beardthing
The colored pages are are really good. Does the author do it himself?

[Jetstorm]

The fat lady has sung folks.

Issue 49 Bottom 5

Lilienthal
Kuroko
Medaka
Kagijin
Akaboshi (fin)

[God Movement]

The fat lady has sung folks.

:cry Noooooooooo! When can we expect it to end then? And what about Kagijin is that going to end anytime soon?

[Jetstorm]

:cry Noooooooooo! When can we expect it to end then? And what about Kagijin is that going to end anytime soon?

Issue 49 which is next week. Last week was issue 48.

Well, to be honest you would be lucky to even get 2-3 more weeks out of Kagijin. It has been dead last since its 2nd ranked week.

November is the end of the calendar year for manga magazines and Jump normally starts cutting manga in that month while adding new ones in December. I don't know why it came so early this year though.

[God Movement]

Issue 49 which is next week. Last week was issue 48.

Well, to be honest you would be lucky to even get 2-3 more weeks out of Kagijin. It has been dead last since its 2nd ranked week.

November is the end of the calendar year for manga magazines and Jump normally starts cutting manga in that month while adding new ones in December. I don't know why it came so early this year though.

This is disappointing I really liked Kagijin, I forever wonder why they still allow shit like Fairy Tail and Bleach to run...

[Jetstorm]

This is disappointing I really liked Kagijin, I forever wonder why they still allow shit like Fairy Tail and Bleach to run...

My bad, this week is Issue 49 so the raw that gets released this week will be its last chapter.

Bleach still runs because even its worst chapters are still ranked in the top 5. With the volumes selling 600K at least.

Fairy Tail runs in Weekly Shounen Magazine so Jump practices don't apply in its case. Even then, Fairy Tail is still one of WSM's most popular titles. -___-

As for Akaboshi, the Japanese fans just never caught on to the series. A pure action series that doesn't catch on is easy to replace in Jump.

[God Movement]

My bad, this week is Issue 49 so the raw that gets released this week will be its last chapter.

Bleach still runs because even its worst chapters are still ranked in the top 5. With the volumes selling 600K at least.

Fairy Tail runs in Weekly Shounen Magazine so Jump practices don't apply in its case. Even then, Fairy Tail is still one of WSM's most popular titles. -___-

As for Akaboshi, the Japanese fans just never caught on to the series. A pure action series that doesn't catch on is easy to replace in Jump.

Well that clears a lot of things up, thanks.

[Mider T]

I couldn't really get into Akaboshi either, at least not like other manga. I don't know what it was but it just wasn't...good enough. Hard to explain. It was just decent.

[Jetstorm]

I couldn't really get into Akaboshi either, at least not like other manga. I don't know what it was but it just wasn't...good enough. Hard to explain. It was just decent.

It had a very rough start in my opinion. It got better halfway but by then it was probably too much of a hole to climb out of.

[Felix]

Exactly, I do enjoy Akaboshi a lot, problem is, it had a lackluster start

[Pandaza]

damn...I'am sadden :( I really enjoyed this manga compared to bleach and fairy tale, plus akaboshi's art style is way better than both combined and the story isn't all that bad.

But yea, the start was a bit rough. I really wanted to see all the stars too

[Quincy James]

Yeah, the art is amazing. Too bad it's ending :-(

[~Ageha~]

thats sad they are canceling this manga it was good and had good art

[God Movement]

Akaboshi is officially cancelled.

[Eldrummer]

Is there any way to continue this series in another magazine? i think the author has a lot of potential as a mangaka but i dont think he fits in Jump. Maybe in shonen magazine. Well, he's probably young and still chasing sucess, so when do you think he will try a new series?

[Pandaza]

http://www.onemanga.com/Akaboshi_-_Ibun_Suikoden/22/01/

scan is out

next chapter should be the last chapter right?

[Felix]

http://www.onemanga.com/Akaboshi_-_Ibun_Suikoden/22/01/

scan is out

next chapter should be the last chapter right?

Yeah it should
Which is strange, ending the Manga with a flashback
Seriously, this is really undeserving. And from what I saw, the rating really went up last few chapters

[Mider T]

Maybe the flashback is a last ditch effort?

[Pandaza]

i thought the rating went down.

I'm going to guess that the next chapter taisou dies by kyokyuu or something. Or he break's taisou's sword and or a limb and what not making taisou unable to achieve what he has been trying to do. Thats my guess for the ending. I'm pretty sure I'm wrong though

[God Movement]

Perhaps the Mangaka doesn't want to make an end because there is a possibility of it being picked up in another magazine?

[~Ageha~]

so what manga is replacing this one

[Haohmaru]

Is there any way to continue this series in another magazine? i think the author has a lot of potential as a mangaka but i dont think he fits in Jump. Maybe in shonen magazine. Well, he's probably young and still chasing sucess, so when do you think he will try a new series?
How does it not fit in Jump? It's a battle manga about different martial arts styles. Imo the mangaka's art is pretty good, but he/she really needs to work on battles. They can be way better.

@NAM No news on whats replacing this.

[Pandaza]

yes indeed, the art style is very unique and awesome but the battle scenes are rather short and sometimes unclear of what the character did

[Jetstorm]

http://www.onemanga.com/Akaboshi_-_Ibun_Suikoden/22/01/

scan is out

next chapter should be the last chapter right?

Nope, Chapter 24.

Yeah it should
Which is strange, ending the Manga with a flashback
Seriously, this is really undeserving. And from what I saw, the rating really went up last few chapters

Nah, the series only escaped the bottom 5 twice. Neither of which were for this arc.

i thought the rating went down.


It did.

Perhaps the Mangaka doesn't want to make an end because there is a possibility of it being picked up in another magazine?

Rather unlikely to tell you the truth. When a series moves to another magazine, it is normally within the same company. Akaboshi could only move to Jump SQ or Ultra Jump in that case but this is a cancellation. I wouldn't expect to see it popping up in a Kodansha or Shogakukan magazine.

so what manga is replacing this one

New series next week: Neko Wappa
New series week after that: Shinseiki Idol Densetsu　Kanata Seven Change　Girochin no Masao-sensei

Both are likely comedy series from what people are saying.

[Rokudaime]

It is shame that this series got canned.

I always love to read a china based manga from the Japanese artist....I am sucker for the plot to overthrow the China Emperor.

and Suiren is cute and adorable..I want to hug her if possible.

[Supreme Alchemist Fan]

this is bs. this manga is better than all the shit currently in jump.

[Rokudaime]

I guess Japanese just hate China setting for reason.

I always love to read a manga based on the ancient china setting and that is why that I like to read Hongkong comic although the art kinda not attractive.

and I just thought that I finally found a manga that I would enjoy it to the fullest because of beautiful Japanese art, especially the girl design..and the SJ destroyed it.

Too bad. :(

I missed you, Sui Ren !!!