View Full Version : Jesus wasn't white!
mortsleam
04-24-2009, 03:14 PM
Why do people continuously keep thinking/saying he is? It's been proven time with logic that even if there was a Jesus Christ Son of God (which there isn't) he wasn't fucking white!
I mean even in Passion of the Christ, where they tried to be so intricate with detail they made him white.
This kinda stuff makes me mad. White people are always trying to make themselves look good by making popular things white. Are they insecure about something or what. I mean shit, they do it with Santa Clause, the tooth fairy, Jesus, EVERYTHING!
Dr. Obvious
04-24-2009, 03:20 PM
Is his white portrayal ever intentional? I think most people are just used to him being depicted as white, so they just assume he's white.
Technically speaking though, he would have been black. I have no doubts about that. Though, do we have a picture & face that we all recognize as black Jesus? I've seen people's depictions of black Jesus, but none of the faces look the same. White Jesus has the same face in everybody's depitions.
xenopyre
04-24-2009, 03:23 PM
I m not a Christian but Jesus (mpbuh) was a Jew and he lived in the Middle East and most of the middle Eastern are classified white caucasians due to there pale skin and to thiere bone structure though they werent european white but they still are white , and where did you get that idea if he wasnt white then what race was he from?
Chu-kun♥
04-24-2009, 03:27 PM
..Santa's not...?
Anyway,I think that's just due to the icons. People have grown up with those icons.
However,they're not realistic at all,so you shouldn't listen to them.
Seriously,blue on Mary? Blue?
I'm pretty sure tons of people know that they had darker skin,like most people where they lived area at their time.
they do it with Santa Clause, the tooth fairy, Jesus, EVERYTHING!
You do realize that these icons (excluding Jesus) are primarily from European culture and that Europeans are white?
As for your main point, I believe that everyone pretty much realizes that Jesus was of middle east decent and therefore did not have blond hair and blue eyes.
They haven't gone around changing his picture because these are artists interpretations of Jesus. No one did a portrait of him.
mortsleam
04-24-2009, 03:48 PM
They do it on purpose to try their superiority. Nothing new.
They do it on purpose to try their superiority. Nothing new.
question...Why do you have a white Jesus in your avatar?
Diceman
04-24-2009, 03:51 PM
Jesus is Mexican and works at the grocery store.
Shinigami Perv
04-24-2009, 03:56 PM
Jesus didn't actually exist, but don't let that get in the way of a race debate.
Hi Im God
04-24-2009, 04:02 PM
Happy now?
http://www.ethnic2020.com/images/Ebay/black-jesus.jpg
quit your bloodclot cryin.
:zaru
I thought jesus to probably be shorter like alot of people were during the time, dark skinned from working hard outside alot and probably dark haired, but still caucasian... and I would think that he was somewhat attractive in order to help suade followers... noone wants to follow someone hideously ugly do they? :awesome
SwirlyUchihaFan
04-24-2009, 04:04 PM
If Jesus did exist, he'd be darker than most depictions of him are, but I don't know about his actual race.
Jesus is always depicted as white because of racism. That's it, pure and simple. You wouldn't want to offend a racist pompous-ass by implying that- God forbid- Jesus was black.
It sucks, but it is.
why does jesus only get to be black or white... i mean there are plenty of other races to make jesus yet everyone always wants him to either be fucking black or white...
thats so racist :quite
Masda
04-24-2009, 04:13 PM
If jesus excisted he was neither black nor european white. He was most likely a caucasian from the middle eastern area, and yes then he's a caucasian if he's from the middle east. Also santa claus, the tooth fairy and all those things are of european origin that's why they're white, it's noting rascist and you know it. You are just trying to get a debate on about nothing but rascist bullshit.
why does jesus only get to be black or white... i mean there are plenty of other races to make jesus yet everyone always wants him to either be fucking black or white...
thats so racist :quite
asian jesus
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm96/javabeans122/kpop/tim_jesus.jpg
native american jesus
http://mattstone.blogs.com/photos/christian_art_native_amer/native_american_jesus1.jpg
:zaru
The Space Cowboy
04-24-2009, 04:14 PM
Uh. He would have been Jewish. Which is an ethnicity all in itself, combining a bit of Persian with Hebrew. As for Santa Claus, St. Nicholas was a Greek in the Byzantine era during which Greece was being invaded by peoples such as the Goths, Visigoths, and Vandals--all of whom could be considered Germanic and thus white.
Furthermore art commonly depicts what you might think of as white people, although they sometimes have all the figures dark and the background light. The tooth fairy is a relatively recent invention too, and seems to have first popped up in France during a time when France was, well, nearly all white.
You do realize that these icons (excluding Jesus) are primarily from European culture and that Europeans are white?
As for your main point, I believe that everyone pretty much realizes that Jesus was of middle east decent and therefore did not have blond hair and blue eyes.
They haven't gone around changing his picture because these are artists interpretations of Jesus. No one did a portrait of him.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner. Also to consider: Depicting g a dark skinned figure takes a heckuva lot more pigment than depicting a light skinned figure.
Amaretti
04-24-2009, 04:15 PM
Japanese christians think Jesus' brother Isukiri died on the cross and Jesus fled to die in Japan, where he's now buried.
Every race/culture has their own naturalised interpretation. If you want to call it racism, fine, but don't pretend whites are especially guilty of it.
Ruby Tuesday
04-24-2009, 04:17 PM
Of course he was white.
Any good catholic would tell you that Jesus is a cracker:zaru
DremolitoX
04-24-2009, 04:17 PM
Jesus was a jew. What do jews look like?
Pilaf
04-24-2009, 04:18 PM
Everybody knows that the Yeshua was not a human being at all but a geometric shape - a brilliant glowing red ruby.
I agree
Also Moby Dick was actually a fish.
Yαriko
04-24-2009, 04:22 PM
you sound a little butthurt
why?
does skin colour really matters?
Dr.Majestic
04-24-2009, 04:30 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7sLyGdvrBNg/SY8TUruJ7FI/AAAAAAAAAOE/a3H6IcHuvlY/s400/OhComeON!.JPG
this is your typical looking israeli man.
jesus would have had olive skin.
the reason the depiction of religion changes due to geography is because no one really intends to verify the plausibility of it. its because its a means to an end. mass control, and demoting free thought. its imagary is manipulated to serve its target audience.
frankly i think its a load of shit.
jesus died for our sin's.
well countless chickens have died for our dinners. same difference.
asian jesus
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm96/javabeans122/kpop/tim_jesus.jpg
native american jesus
http://mattstone.blogs.com/photos/christian_art_native_amer/native_american_jesus1.jpg
:zaru
hahahahahaha!!!!! awesome
Moonraker_One
04-24-2009, 04:37 PM
The bible describes Jesus as having olive colored skin and hair like sheep's wool.
Sounds like Neil Patrick Harris to me.
¬_¬
Blueberryz
04-24-2009, 06:44 PM
why dose it matter what his skin colour was and i dont think he was white he was more likely to have an olive coloured skin
CrazyMoronX
04-24-2009, 07:35 PM
Who cares?
Seriously, it doesn't matter. Go worship your Indian version of Jesus, or your Japanese one, or your Brazillian one who is a BJJ black belt for all I care. Just stop whining about it.
DeterminedIdiot
04-24-2009, 07:40 PM
dont know why. i actually thought he was cause of the paintings and all that but then i learned he wasnt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m5TMny3dQI
mortsleam
04-24-2009, 08:43 PM
question...Why do you have a white Jesus in your avatar?
Read my user title.
Of course he was white.
Any good catholic would tell you that Jesus is a cracker:zaru
:facepalm
Jesus was a jew. What do jews look like?
:facepalm
you sound a little butthurt
why?
does skin colour really matters?
why dose it matter what his skin colour was and i dont think he was white he was more likely to have an olive coloured skin
Who cares?
Seriously, it doesn't matter. Go worship your Indian version of Jesus, or your Japanese one, or your Brazillian one who is a BJJ black belt for all I care. Just stop whining about it.
:facepalm
Race means everything, if he wasn't depicted as white all the time I might even believe in him a little. It just shows people are bias IMO.
Rikudou
04-24-2009, 08:50 PM
You fucking idiot. Jesus wasn't white OR black. Jesus was Semitic.
Arabs and the early Hebrews fall under that classification, but the Jews of today barely have any Semitic blood left in them because of the mixing with the various populations they lived amongst.
Right now, the people closest to the 'race' Jesus was are actually fucking Arabs.
Know your history morons. That Jesus = black bullshit has gone on long enough. You religious people will all have to settle with the fact that the closest thing to Jezus today is an Arab :lmao
Look, this guy looks like Jezus
http://www.joshuaproject.net/profiles/photos/p101193.jpg
What the fuck are we talking about here anyway, he probably never even existed. :argh
mortsleam
04-24-2009, 09:42 PM
You fucking idiot. Jesus wasn't white OR black. Jesus was Semitic.
Arabs and the early Hebrews fall under that classification, but the Jews of today barely have any Semitic blood left in them because of the mixing with the various populations they lived amongst.
Right now, the people closest to the 'race' Jesus was are actually fucking Arabs.
Know your history morons. That Jesus = black bullshit has gone on long enough. You religious people will all have to settle with the fact that the closest thing to Jezus today is an Arab :lmao
Look, this guy looks like Jezus
http://www.joshuaproject.net/profiles/photos/p101193.jpg
What the fuck are we talking about here anyway, he probably never even existed. :argh
You're a fucking idiot. I'm pretty sure I NEVER said he was white.
Rikudou
04-24-2009, 09:44 PM
You're a fucking idiot. I'm pretty sure I NEVER said he was white.
You fucking idiot. I never said YOU said he was white. As a matter of fact, you never said what race YOU think he was, but judging from your persona, I'd say you think he was black.
My comment was a general statement. Read it again. Maybe after reading it 38479283479283 times you might understand that sentence.
I'll hear from you next week probably. :amuse
mortsleam
04-24-2009, 09:52 PM
You fucking idiot. I never said YOU said he was white. As a matter of fact, you never said what race YOU think he was, but judging from your persona, I'd say you think he was black.
My comment was a general statement. Read it again. Maybe after reading it 38479283479283 times you might understand that sentence.
I'll hear from you next week probably. :amuse
You made it seem like you were talking to the OP seeing as how you didn't say, "you guys that think he's black are fucking idiots," you fucking idiot.
Rikudou
04-24-2009, 10:03 PM
You made it seem like you were talking to the OP seeing as how you didn't say, "you guys that think he's black are fucking idiots," you fucking idiot.
Make no mistake. I aimed to insult ANYONE who thinks Jezus (who probably didn't even fucking exist) is White OR Black.
If he existed, he was a Semite. Jezus was a defective Jew and pretty much all people who lived there at the time were Semitic.
Israeli's and Arabs belong to the same group of people, as do Hebrew and Arabic belong to the same language group.
That's why hating the Jews for being Jews is called Anti-Semitism, but hating Arabs for being Arab can also be called Anti-Semitism.
Call him a treacherous and greedy Jew, call him an Arab, call him a Sandn*gger, I don't give a shit. Just don't fucking flame an entire race for doing something, while doing the EXACT same thing you were angry at that race for doing.
That's fucking retarded.
mortsleam
04-24-2009, 10:07 PM
I agree.
Cidinho
04-24-2009, 10:10 PM
Jesus didn't actually exist, but don't let that get in the way of a race debate.
My thoughts exactly.
Rikudou
04-24-2009, 10:24 PM
I agree.
With ME?!:huh
Damn, my trolling attempt really phailed :hmm
Have I lost my power to enrage people with blind and glorious hate? :wth
This is bad :D:
mortsleam
04-24-2009, 10:49 PM
That's too bad. Anyway, if you wanna make people rage and everything just go to the Blender.
Hollow'd Heart
04-24-2009, 10:53 PM
Jesus was olive skinned. Most people around that time were, in that region.
Keile
04-24-2009, 10:58 PM
Make no mistake. I aimed to insult ANYONE who thinks Jezus (who probably didn't even fucking exist) is White OR Black.
If he existed, he was a Semite. Jezus was a defective Jew and pretty much all people who lived there at the time were Semitic.
Israeli's and Arabs belong to the same group of people, as do Hebrew and Arabic belong to the same language group.
That's why hating the Jews for being Jews is called Anti-Semitism, but hating Arabs for being Arab can also be called Anti-Semitism.
Call him a treacherous and greedy Jew, call him an Arab, call him a Sandn*gger, I don't give a shit. Just don't fucking flame an entire race for doing something, while doing the EXACT same thing you were angry at that race for doing.
That's fucking retarded.
Jesus probably didn't exist and if he did (and he didn't because magic doesn't exist), you have NO IDEA as to what race he was. The Bible is a piece of shit reference for just about anything.
mortsleam
04-24-2009, 11:01 PM
Jesus was olive skinned. Most people around that time were.
:facepalm
It's where people are located.
makeoutparadise
04-24-2009, 11:12 PM
WE had A pole about this way back and every one agreed he was'nt white
Mider T
04-24-2009, 11:15 PM
Isn't it the message that's supposed to matter?
Kusogitsune
04-24-2009, 11:17 PM
Yeah, they're even trying to make Genghis Khan white. Fucking Genghis Khan! Fucking lazy ass History channel, if you're gonna be too lazy to find an actual asian to play one in your little specials, at least shell out the bucks for a makeup artist to make the actor look like one.
Stroev
04-24-2009, 11:19 PM
Isn't it the message that's supposed to matter?
No, because race > good will and all. Clearly.
Akatsuki Elite
04-24-2009, 11:33 PM
I m not a Christian but Jesus (mpbuh) was a Jew and he lived in the Middle East and most of the middle Eastern are classified white caucasians due to there pale skin and to thiere bone structure though they werent european white but they still are white , and where did you get that idea if he wasnt white then what race was he from?
The Jews you see today are not the Jews that were in the middle east ages ago hence the word Jew-ish ,ish meaning like. The Bible says that the real Jews will be spread out among the earth without knowledge of who they are due to the Greek who took their land and ran them into Africa. Second Jesus as you call him is even describe to have dark skin and hair like wool in the bible. Another thing Jesus is the greek version of his name his real name was Yesuah.
Cenyane
04-24-2009, 11:37 PM
jesus was born in the middle east, so far back in those times, he has som complextion as a result in his skin.
Akatsuki Elite
04-24-2009, 11:54 PM
Jesus was olive skinned. Most people around that time were.
:huh......:facepalm wow you cant be serious
Cenyane
04-25-2009, 12:05 AM
Jesus was olive skinned. Most people around that time were.
:wth, im sorry but, wat the heck r u talkin about?! thats nowhere near being true
@hollowed heart; no they werent not if they were hard working carpenters they were a bit more bronze from being outside alot
beautiful scorpio
04-25-2009, 12:14 AM
It doesn't really matter what skin color Jesus Christ is...Because his word will always be the same no matter what he looks like...He loves us all the same..
Jesus didn't actually exist, but don't let that get in the way of a race debate.
Many historians would actually disagree with you there, though I am far too lazy to look further into the issue than Wikipedia. :zaru
Also, he wasn't white nor was he black. He was Middle Eastern. :wink
Akatsuki Elite
04-25-2009, 12:36 AM
You fucking idiot. Jesus wasn't white OR black. Jesus was Semitic.
Arabs and the early Hebrews fall under that classification, but the Jews of today barely have any Semitic blood left in them because of the mixing with the various populations they lived amongst.
Right now, the people closest to the 'race' Jesus was are actually fucking Arabs.
Know your history morons. That Jesus = black bullshit has gone on long enough. You religious people will all have to settle with the fact that the closest thing to Jezus today is an Arab :lmao
Look, this guy looks like Jezus
http://www.joshuaproject.net/profiles/photos/p101193.jpg
What the fuck are we talking about here anyway, he probably never even existed. :argh
I love showing people who think they know what thier talking about ....dont know what the fuck their talking about.
Jesus' male ancestors trace a line from Shem. However, ethnically and racially, they were mixed Semitic and Hamitic from the times spent in captivity in Egypt and Babylon.
Rahab and probably Tamar were Canaanites. Although Canaanites spoke a Semitic language, they were descendants of Ham through his son Canaan. Bethsheba, who had been the wife of Uriah the Hittite, probably was a Hittite herself, possibly a Hamitic Hittite, though scholars disagree on the precise identity of the "Hittites" in the Bible because historical records are quite scarce.
In the United States today the general view on whether someone is "black" is the One-Drop Rule -- if a person has any black ancestors s/he is considered "black", even with a clearly Anglo skin color, e.g., Mariah Carry, LaToya Jackson.
BrianTheGoldfish
04-25-2009, 12:38 AM
Isn't it the message that's supposed to matter?
No, it's the magic powers that matter above all else. Just ask C.S. Lewis.
Yαriko
04-25-2009, 04:52 AM
:facepalm
Race means everything, if he wasn't depicted as white all the time I might even believe in him a little. It just shows people are bias IMO.
that's just a pathetic reason not to believe, because of the skin? get real:ryoma
Sephiroth
04-25-2009, 04:59 AM
Jesus didn't actually exist, but don't let that get in the way of a race debate.
:edu
By his depiction in the story he was middle eastern.
Suzumebachi
04-25-2009, 05:02 AM
This thread is full of trolls baiting trolls.
Rikudou
04-25-2009, 07:03 AM
Jesus was olive skinned. Most people around that time in that region were.
fixed :edu
Champagne Supernova
04-25-2009, 07:44 AM
My friends you have it all wrong.
Jesus was a Kiwi and so was his dad :LOS
http://www.slane.co.nz/images/ani_god&jesus.jpg
Black Wraith
04-25-2009, 08:06 AM
I m not a Christian but Jesus (mpbuh) was a Jew and he lived in the Middle East and most of the middle Eastern are classified white caucasians due to there pale skin and to thiere bone structure though they werent european white but they still are white , and where did you get that idea if he wasnt white then what race was he from?
IIRC in one Hadith it says he had brown skin.
Does this make Jesus' schlong bigger?
Pilaf
04-25-2009, 08:51 AM
It doesn't really matter what skin color Jesus Christ is...Because his word will always be the same no matter what he looks like...He loves us all the same..
You really believe Yeshua yon Yosef had some kind of supernatural powers? That he was the son of the ancient Canaanite harvest deity Yahveh? When so much of his story and his powers were directly ripped off from older pagan religions? Face it - Christianity is a ripoff and a scam, and a copy.
Yeshua yon Yosef probably existed, and he was probably an arab, but he wasn't a god, he didn't invent morality and the world doesn't need his teachings.
Fuck you guys, my Jesus was asian.
But in all seriousness, why the fuck does it matter? Had he even existed, does being white, black, half-Indian or purple with yellow polkadots make any difference?
Lance Vance
04-25-2009, 11:09 AM
I thought this was common knowledge. Obviously people change his skin colour and feats every so often to make him seem even more awesome then they thought a century ago.
Sasufag
04-25-2009, 11:10 AM
Jesus didn't actually exist, but don't let that get in the way of a race debate.
He did exist theres many proofe about that.:fu:fu
And Jesus wasnt white he was brown&white mixed something.:fu
And i lol everytime when i hear jew explanation of jesus and his missing body.:lmao:lmao
That's too bad. Anyway, if you wanna make people rage and everything just go to the Blender.
Fancy taking your own advice, Mr. RAWR-WHITEY?
He did exist theres many proofe about that.:fu:fu
And Jesus wasnt white he was brown&white mixed something.:fu
And i lol everytime when i hear jew explanation of jesus and his missing body.:lmao:lmao Jews sucks:fu:fu
MAybe im natzi?????:oh:amazed
hey, those r sum gud pts man
fantzipants
04-25-2009, 01:06 PM
If Jesus did exist, he'd be darker than most depictions of him are, but I don't know about his actual race.
Jesus is always depicted as white because of racism. That's it, pure and simple. You wouldn't want to offend a racist pompous-ass by implying that- God forbid- Jesus was black.
It sucks, but it is.
Actually the Eastern Orthodox Churches (which are one of the 4 most ancient churches) have paintings that clearly depict as Jesus having dark skin and there are middle eastern people who are darker than African-Americans but are are still considered caucasian btw.
http://thepriesthood.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/photo-421.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e3/Icon-Pentecost.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Baptism_-_Marcellinus_and_Peter.jpg
also in the defense of the white man there have been some white painters who have tried to depict Jesus as realistic as possible ,even going to Israel to study the people, and faced criticism for it.
Examples like William Holman Hunt
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/William_holman_hunt-the_shadow_of_death.jpg/300px-William_holman_hunt-the_shadow_of_death.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/William_Holman_Hunt_-_The_Finding_of_the_Saviour_in_the_Temple.jpg/800px-William_Holman_Hunt_-_The_Finding_of_the_Saviour_in_the_Temple.jpg
The African American painter Henry Ossawa Tanner Painted these depictions after being in the Holy Land between 1897 and 1899
http://explorepahistory.com/images/ExplorePAHistory-a0a7v9-a_349.jpg
http://www.askart.com/AskART/photos/CNY20080521_5913/136.jpg
fantzipants
04-25-2009, 01:18 PM
He did exist theres many proofe about that.:fu:fu
And Jesus wasnt white he was brown&white mixed something.:fu
And i lol everytime when i hear jew explanation of jesus and his missing body.:lmao:lmao Jews sucks:fu:fu
MAybe im natzi?????:oh:amazed
St. Paul himself defended his Jewish heritage warning non Jewish Christians to not think they are better than their Jewish counter parts for we as gentiles were adopted into Abraham's family through Christ's sacrifice. Metaphorically speaking just as fast as we were grafted onto the tree of Abraham we can be cut off.
You really believe Yeshua yon Yosef had some kind of supernatural powers? That he was the son of the ancient Canaanite harvest deity Yahveh? When so much of his story and his powers were directly ripped off from older pagan religions? Face it - Christianity is a ripoff and a scam, and a copy.
Yeshua yon Yosef probably existed, and he was probably an arab, but he wasn't a god, he didn't invent morality and the world doesn't need his teachings.
It's Yeshua Ben David but Ben Yosef can work also.
Goodfellow
04-25-2009, 01:32 PM
He's Jewish, amirite:awesome?
Dunno, try holding some gold or non circumcised penis, if he runs for it then he's a jew.
Anyway the only apostole I can bring myself to respect is Paul.
Sasufag
04-25-2009, 03:03 PM
This thread sucks over 9000.:fu
Everybody know already answer (but not the retard fags.:awesome)
Hollow'd Heart
04-25-2009, 03:19 PM
He did exist theres many proofe about that.:fu:fu
And Jesus wasnt white he was brown&white mixed something.:fu
And i lol everytime when i hear jew explanation of jesus and his missing body.:lmao:lmao Jews sucks:fu:fu
MAybe im natzi?????:oh:amazed
Shut up. :pek
WwhiptailwW
05-02-2009, 05:13 AM
I know some people have already said it, but Jesus did exist. His birth is what we base our yearly system on for goodness sake! It's the fact of whether or not he was the Son of God which is the true belief.
Jesus was Jewish so had middle-eastern skin tone, but each culture depicts him as their own skin colour. Some churches in Africa depict him as black, Europe and the America's as primarily white, and Asia Asian of course.
Pilaf
05-02-2009, 05:46 AM
I know some people have already said it, but Jesus did exist. His birth is what we base our yearly system on for goodness sake!
Hahahaha.....
No it isn't, kid. If it was, then the scholars would be 100% agreed on just how many years ago he was born. There's a range as wide as eighty years where Yeshua could have been born if he ever existed at all. Do yourself a favor. Watch "The God who wasn't there." It can be found free all over the internet.
Sama'el
05-02-2009, 05:52 AM
Why is this in the Philosophy forum?
WwhiptailwW
05-02-2009, 09:09 AM
Hahahaha.....
No it isn't, kid. If it was, then the scholars would be 100% agreed on just how many years ago he was born. There's a range as wide as eighty years where Yeshua could have been born if he ever existed at all. Do yourself a favor. Watch "The God who wasn't there." It can be found free all over the internet.
I won't thank you. I'm not so sure about the whole thing in terms of time, but I know he did exist. Maybe scholars don't 100% agree, but I bet it's like 90% who do.
Anyway, I respect your views. But I'd just like to say that those who are religious at least have hope, even if what they believe is total rubbish. That's something more than anyone else has.
Keile
05-02-2009, 09:50 AM
I know some people have already said it, but Jesus did exist. His birth is what we base our yearly system on for goodness sake! It's the fact of whether or not he was the Son of God which is the true belief.
Jesus was Jewish so had middle-eastern skin tone, but each culture depicts him as their own skin colour. Some churches in Africa depict him as black, Europe and the America's as primarily white, and Asia Asian of course.
There is no evidence that Jesus ever existed. Enough is enough. Until I see actual, TANGIBLE evidence that he existed, I don't think it matters whether Jesus was black, white, or pokemon yellow. Even if he did EXIST, if you cannot PROVE that he was the offspring of some omnipotent, omniscient, impossible bullshit god..then it doesn't matter.
Vom Osten
05-04-2009, 10:17 AM
You really believe Yeshua yon Yosef had some kind of supernatural powers? That he was the son of the ancient Canaanite harvest deity Yahveh? When so much of his story and his powers were directly ripped off from older pagan religions? Face it - Christianity is a ripoff and a scam, and a copy.
Yeshua yon Yosef probably existed, and he was probably an arab, but he wasn't a god, he didn't invent morality and the world doesn't need his teachings.
Thats such bs. The differences are tenuous and superficial at best.
Cidinho
05-04-2009, 01:57 PM
It's ridiculously racist a discussion on whether Jesus was white or not. Not that he exists, but if he did, it wouldn't really matter. (Although anyone who spent 40 days on the desert must have at least type 3 darker skin)
Kenneth
05-04-2009, 01:59 PM
If Jesus would have existed, he would have been Arabic. SO NO, NOT WHITE. More brownish.
What difference does it make? His teachings are what important to the people that have faith.
ameterasu_41
05-04-2009, 04:34 PM
Why do people continuously keep thinking/saying he is? It's been proven time with logic that even if there was a Jesus Christ Son of God (which there isn't) he wasn't fucking white!
I mean even in Passion of the Christ, where they tried to be so intricate with detail they made him white.
This kinda stuff makes me mad. White people are always trying to make themselves look good by making popular things white. Are they insecure about something or what. I mean shit, they do it with Santa Clause, the tooth fairy, Jesus, EVERYTHING!
It's funny you should mention insecurity. For someone who's supposedly so convinced Jesus didn't exist why do you care so much about what color people think he is? And why are you so concerned with the color of imaginary characters like the tooth fairy? What color, exactly, do you think the Santa should be? He's based off an old greek dude.
Not to mention your whole point is stupid and fails to notice that every other race has done the exact same thing.
Black Wraith
05-04-2009, 04:35 PM
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Sotharsyl
05-04-2009, 04:39 PM
Yes from a true believer's point of view the race doesn't matter but the mesage,but from my atheist "do we have actual evidence, what is logical?" point of view his race was contiously altered to make conversion easyer , certainetly not white or black but the standard color for that region/period I'll live it to the experts.
Wasn't that one drop of blood rule invented by slave owners to increase their number of slaves?
When so much of his story and his powers were directly ripped off from older pagan religions? Face it - Christianity is a ripoff and a scam, and a copy.
your statement reminded me of this; http://www.crystalinks.com/isishorusmaryjesus.jpg
Examples like William Holman Hunt
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/William_holman_hunt-the_shadow_of_death.jpg/300px-William_holman_hunt-the_shadow_of_death.jpg
Jesus looks like some hippy in this rendition...
Hahahaha.....
No it isn't, kid. If it was, then the scholars would be 100% agreed on just how many years ago he was born. There's a range as wide as eighty years where Yeshua could have been born if he ever existed at all. Do yourself a favor. Watch "The God who wasn't there." It can be found free all over the internet.
Well this can be said of alot of personal aspects in history. But you make me think of Moses. And how there is no real historical proof in ancient egyptian history of Moses' existence.
Although a similar thing happened to Hatshepsut with alot of her historical statues etc being destroyed; yet we can still say she existed. :wha
Also many things are disputed in the past; take Plutarch and his accounts of history.
Thats such bs. The differences are tenuous and superficial at best.
This may be true, but people can argue that christianity's historical facts and accounts can have equally tenuous evidence.
Verdius
05-08-2009, 07:45 PM
Is his white portrayal ever intentional? I think most people are just used to him being depicted as white, so they just assume he's white.
Technically speaking though, he would have been black.
Is everyone retarded?
Not even the entire continent of Africa held/holds a population entirely of blacks. Egyptians are a simple and obvious example of this.
Now if you go to the Middle East, the location of the Jesus story and if anyone's ever actually seen a Palestinian if you didn't know better then you might actually mistake some of them for American.
Not that this implies they're white, but that they all don't have dark skin. In all likelihood if Jesus of Nazerith actually existed he would've had tanned skin, but a paler complexion isn't out of the question either. There is of course the chance for him to have been black, however this possibility is rather low, but the point is people need to research a topic at least a little before they open their mouths and vomit stupid crap everywhere.
Some Palestinians (Second picture contains a bloody, but alive, baby)
http://www.worldhiphopmarket.com/Photos/DAMslingshot.jpg
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00464/GazaSlide_1__585x43_464431a.jpg
http://www.camera.org/images_user/hebron%20pool.jpg
Also, I did not care enough to read through this whole thread to see if anyone's said anything along the same lines. No effort will be made to apologize either for my laziness.
This is outright retarded. The OP seems to be a non-white with some sort of inferiority complex (banned too :LOS) and some of the posts have been equally retarded.
The most logical thing to do would be to look at the people in the area he lived in now and make your best guess from there. Since he lived in the Israeli/Palestinian area, it would be safe to say he's probably of that makeup. Stop...fucking...whining about his race people. How do people get so hung up on his color and completely overlook his deeds?
Tenacious Lee
05-08-2009, 08:33 PM
Jesus didn't actually exist, but don't let that get in the way of a race debate.
owned :P
10char
Johnny Rotten
05-08-2009, 08:43 PM
Why does everybody assume nowadays he was white or black? Was it the Boondocks? Shit, Jesus wasn't black nor white. Sure he was light-skinned but since we all know he lived in what is today the middle-east, it's likely he looked like them. They're not white, they're not black, neither is Jesus.
I hate when people just have to point every little aspect of white racism. Shouldn't we focus on slavery, lynchings, and discrimination? Not a religious icon's ethnicity.
Catterix
05-08-2009, 09:07 PM
Only Americans think Jesus was white. It's always been believed in other countries that he wasn't white. And he wasn't really that white in Passion of the Christ either.
@lk3mizt
05-08-2009, 09:09 PM
:rotfl
God, why hath thou forsaken my brethen? :LOS
wtf have niggas done wrong? :LOS
:lmao
Jesus ain't the son of god. Just some crazy guy that thought he came out of a virgin's hoohaa.
OH DID I SPOIL YOU!?
:LOS
RAGING BONER
05-08-2009, 09:11 PM
of course he isn't white, you think i don't know my own gardener?!
dark messiah verdandi
05-08-2009, 09:12 PM
Jesus didn't actually exist, but don't let that get in the way of a race debate.
/thread
:pwned
Cidinho
05-08-2009, 10:25 PM
of course he isn't white, you think i don't know my own gardener?!
The same as "your" son, I'd say.
Sorry, but I really couldn't hold that joke :edu
Anyway, you guys are letting the fact that he doesn't exist get in the way :<
Spencer_Gator
05-09-2009, 08:53 PM
He was jewish...
Miss Fortune
05-11-2009, 07:57 PM
First off: Jesus isn't real. Crazy medicene man with crazy drug addicted followers...
Second: If he was real, he wouldn't be white. He was born in the middle east, he'd be Arab. Damn Europeans and Americans for their image of a white jesus... *am from Ohio*
Pickindazys
05-11-2009, 08:04 PM
jesus was gay i called it first :pek
The Cheat
05-11-2009, 08:07 PM
Wow, a man that lived in the middlee east wasm't white, I had no idea.
jesus was gay i called it first :pek
I think he would be asexual if anything.
The Darkstar
05-22-2009, 02:29 AM
i wouldn't think a guy who was born in the middle east to be anything but a little tanned, so to speak. but yeah, i'll have to agree, that boy ain't white.
Mider T
05-22-2009, 02:34 AM
i wouldn't think a guy who was born in the middle east to be anything but a little tanned, so to speak. but yeah, i'll have to agree, that boy ain't white.
Racism:pek.
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