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Mattaru
03-10-2009, 01:55 PM
Source - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/4953523/Barack-Obama-too-tired-to-give-proper-welcome-to-Gordon-Brown.html)

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Sources close to the White House say Mr Obama and his staff have been "overwhelmed" by the economic meltdown and have voiced concerns that the new president is not getting enough rest.

British officials, meanwhile, admit that the White House and US State Department staff were utterly bemused by complaints that the Prime Minister should have been granted full-blown press conference and a formal dinner, as has been customary. They concede that Obama aides seemed unfamiliar with the expectations that surround a major visit by a British prime minister.
But Washington figures with access to Mr Obama's inner circle explained the slight by saying that those high up in the administration have had little time to deal with international matters, let alone the diplomatic niceties of the special relationship.

Allies of Mr Obama say his weary appearance in the Oval Office with Mr Brown illustrates the strain he is now under, and the president's surprise at the sheer volume of business that crosses his desk.

A well-connected Washington figure, who is close to members of Mr Obama's inner circle, expressed concern that Mr Obama had failed so far to "even fake an interest in foreign policy".

A British official conceded that the furore surrounding the apparent snub to Mr Brown had come as a shock to the White House. "I think it's right to say that their focus is elsewhere, on domestic affairs. A number of our US interlocutors said they couldn't quite understand the British concerns and didn't get what that was all about."

The American source said: "Obama is overwhelmed. There is a zero sum tension between his ability to attend to the economic issues and his ability to be a proactive sculptor of the national security agenda.

"That was the gamble these guys made at the front end of this presidency and I think they're finding it a hard thing to do everything."

British diplomats insist the visit was a success, with officials getting the chance to develop closer links with Mr Obama's aides. They point out that the president has agreed to meet the prime minister for further one-to-one talks in London later this month, ahead of the G20 summit on April 2.

But they concede that the mood music of the event was at times strained. Mr Brown handed over carefully selected gifts, including a pen holder made from the wood of a warship that helped stamp out the slave trade - a sister ship of the vessel from which timbers were taken to build Mr Obama's Oval Office desk. Mr Obama's gift in return, a collection of Hollywood film DVDs that could have been bought from any high street store, looked like the kind of thing the White House might hand out to the visiting head of a minor African state.

Mr Obama rang Mr Brown as he flew home, in what many suspected was an attempt to make amends.

The real views of many in Obama administration were laid bare by a State Department official involved in planning the Brown visit, who reacted with fury when questioned by The Sunday Telegraph about why the event was so low-key.

The official dismissed any notion of the special relationship, saying: "There's nothing special about Britain. You're just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn't expect special treatment." The apparent lack of attention to detail by the Obama administration is indicative of what many believe to be Mr Obama's determination to do too much too quickly.

In addition to passing the largest stimulus package and the largest budget in US history, Mr Obama is battling a plummeting stock market, the possible bankruptcy of General Motors, and rising unemployment. He has also begun historic efforts to achieve universal healthcare, overhaul education and begin a green energy revolution all in his first 50 days in office.

The Sunday Telegraph understands that one of Mr Obama's most prominent African American backers, whose endorsement he spent two years cultivating, has told friends that he detects a weakness in Mr Obama's character.

"The one real serious flaw I see in Barack Obama is that he thinks he can manage all this," the well-known figure told a Washington official, who spoke to this newspaper. "He's underestimating the flood of things that will hit his desk." A Democratic strategist, who is friends with several senior White House aides, revealed that the president has regularly appeared worn out and drawn during evening work sessions with senior staff in the West Wing and has been forced to make decisions more quickly than he is comfortable.

He said that on several occasions the president has had to hurry back from eating dinner with his family in the residence and then tucking his daughters in to bed, to conduct urgent government business. Matters are not helped by the pledge to give up smoking.

"People say he looks tired more often than they're used to," the strategist said. "He's still calm, but there have been flashes of irritation when he thinks he's being pushed to make a decision sooner than he wants to make it. He looks like he needs a cigarette."

Mr Obama was teased by the New York Times on Thursday in a front page story which claimed to have detected a greater prevalence of grey hairs since he entered the White House.

The Democratic strategist stressed that Mr Obama's plight was nothing new. "He knew it was going to be tough; he said as much throughout the campaign. But there's a difference between knowing it is going to be tough and facing the sheer relentless pressure of it all."

Sources close to the White House say Mr Obama and his staff have been "overwhelmed" by the economic meltdown and have voiced concerns that the new president is not getting enough rest.

Excerpts from the article:

The official dismissed any notion of the special relationship, saying: "There's nothing special about Britain. You're just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn't expect special treatment." The apparent lack of attention to detail by the Obama administration is indicative of what many believe to be Mr Obama's determination to do too much too quickly.

In addition to passing the largest stimulus package and the largest budget in US history, Mr Obama is battling a plummeting stock market, the possible bankruptcy of General Motors, and rising unemployment. He has also begun historic efforts to achieve universal healthcare, overhaul education and begin a green energy revolution all in his first 50 days in office.

The Sunday Telegraph understands that one of Mr Obama's most prominent African American backers, whose endorsement he spent two years cultivating, has told friends that he detects a weakness in Mr Obama's character.

"The one real serious flaw I see in Barack Obama is that he thinks he can manage all this," the well-known figure told a Washington official, who spoke to this newspaper. "He's underestimating the flood of things that will hit his desk." A Democratic strategist, who is friends with several senior White House aides, revealed that the president has regularly appeared worn out and drawn during evening work sessions with senior staff in the West Wing and has been forced to make decisions more quickly than he is comfortable.


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Mael
03-10-2009, 01:58 PM
And thus we begin the Obama hates the UK spiel all over again.

Le Male
03-10-2009, 02:05 PM
Difficult, the job of president.

Altron
03-10-2009, 02:06 PM
lol, well Obama is cleaning up the shit and mess that George W Bush left him

MissUzumakiHinata
03-10-2009, 02:08 PM
Its George Wank (in a) Bush's fault :D

Obama has a lot of shit to go into so its not his fault

Sama'el
03-10-2009, 02:11 PM
In b4 the ruffled feathers of British nationalism

Cirus
03-10-2009, 02:22 PM
He said that on several occasions the president has had to hurry back from eating dinner with his family in the residence and then tucking his daughters in to bed, to conduct urgent government business. Matters are not helped by the pledge to give up smoking.

"People say he looks tired more often than they're used to," the strategist said. "He's still calm, but there have been flashes of irritation when he thinks he's being pushed to make a decision sooner than he wants to make it. He looks like he needs a cigarette."
What? Obama is a fellow smoker!! That is good news!!!! Someone buy that man a pack of smokes. He needs them now.

Still I think he is trying to do to much to fast. He needs to take care of the economy first, and then take care of everything else second. Reason being if the economy fails the everything else is pointless.

Toby
03-10-2009, 02:59 PM
This is all perfectly fine by me, really, because the way people here keep crying about how the British aren't doing enough in Afghanistan illuminates this man's incompetence to deliver his campaign-promise of phased redeployment. Which by the way is pivotal if you want to win there. Even if all European NATO-parties increased their deployment-levels, which is unrealistic to demand at this time, it won't be enough. The US promised to be the bulwark here, so deliver damn it.

All in all though, he's making the exit from the global meltdown even harder by avoiding discussion on the subject. I suppose he's spending more time focusing on Hillary's talks with the Chinese. That is apt if he wants to really reduce that trade deficit, but he needs to negotiate a release on the Chinese government's restrictions on capital flows in to the country, since they refuse to release the capital flows going abroad. This would allow the foreign investments of American companies perhaps some more leeway, and meeting some IPR requirements wouldn't hurt either. For trade with Britain and the the EU at large, Obama really needs to shake up his team and give his input on saving eastern Europe. Western European countries are already hesitant to bail them out, let alone because we don't know what actions will be taken abroad to match the expense.

But if he cuts a bit in the fraudulent waste of resources going into multiple multilateral financial institutions funded by the USA to the UN, he might cut some unnecessary fat and increase cooperation anyway. His call.

narutosimpson
03-10-2009, 03:44 PM
who isn't too tired these days? i don't even work and i'm exhausted.

Raiden
03-10-2009, 04:24 PM
Of course he's exhausted by the economic crisis! His cabinet seems to be the only body on Washington that is trying to fully grasp what's going on, hence why people like John McCain are calling for a commission to study the economic crisis. Truth is that in order to come up with a solution, you're going to have to do more than give tax cuts or create jobs. Obama's ambition is key in solving this problem, it's an undying persistence to find a solution that's going to help get America out of the mess that it's in now.

Purgatory
03-10-2009, 05:24 PM
The Prime Minister should've kept himself in his own terrority untill at least some level of improvement was made in the US economically. Then again, Britain can go to hell for all I care.

Lucaniel
03-10-2009, 05:32 PM
I see that my voodoo is working.

hyakku
03-10-2009, 05:50 PM
Really? Is this what the media is coming to? I haven't even heard too much of the news lately, just judgements on Obama's character. Now he's doing too much work? Before he wasn't clear enough about his plans? Now his plans are too complex? What the fuck, all I hear is bitching with no alternatives, seems like everyones got shit to say but nothings coming out when they move their lips.

Really, if you all think he can't handle all this why don't more of you come forth and actually get working isntead of giving interviews with flowery bullshit language. It's damn good to know that my president is working round the clock, and it's just shitty that he can't even smoke a cig without this bullshit media creeping up behind him.

-MBS-
03-10-2009, 05:56 PM
Awww, poor Obama ... and it's only going to get worse. ;33

Vom Osten
03-10-2009, 06:01 PM
This is all perfectly fine by me, really, because the way people here keep crying about how the British aren't doing enough in Afghanistan illuminates this man's incompetence to deliver his campaign-promise of phased redeployment. Which by the way is pivotal if you want to win there. Even if all European NATO-parties increased their deployment-levels, which is unrealistic to demand at this time, it won't be enough. The US promised to be the bulwark here, so deliver damn it.

I call BS, the Bundeswehr in Afghanistan are nothing more than heavily armed policemen. The other European NATO states have only sent a handful of solders.

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The Pink Ninja
03-10-2009, 06:41 PM
A well-connected Washington figure, who is close to members of Mr Obama's inner circle, expressed concern that Mr Obama had failed so far to "even fake an interest in foreign policy".

Scariest thing I have read since the last "ZOMG EVUL MUZLIMS!" article D:

narutosimpson
03-10-2009, 08:41 PM
Scariest thing I have read since the last "ZOMG EVUL MUZLIMS!" article D:

i thought we were pretty clear on the fact that domestic economy was the primary issue ahead of all other issues. Obama has had clinton doing state visits to a number of important countries, i'm sure obama is being made aware of these events. (unless that well connected figure is clinton, haha, wouldn't surprise me)

ZeroBlack
03-11-2009, 12:09 AM
I'm tired, but that's because I have english papers to type.

Lord Yu
03-11-2009, 12:13 AM
In his defense, I hear Gordon Brown is a pretty boring guy. Wouldn't want Obama falling asleep in conference.

Mider T
03-11-2009, 12:18 AM
What? Obama is a fellow smoker!! That is good news!!!! Someone buy that man a pack of smokes. He needs them now.

Still I think he is trying to do to much to fast. He needs to take care of the economy first, and then take care of everything else second. Reason being if the economy fails the everything else is pointless.

Are you trying to kill him after he's vowed to quit!?!
In his defense, I hear Gordon Brown is a pretty boring guy. Wouldn't want Obama falling asleep in conference.

He is, haven't you heard him speak? Apperance, British accent, and on top of that his name. Gordon Brown, I'm yawning just saying it.

T4R0K
03-11-2009, 04:56 AM
That's like in sports. Obama tries to run clean, but isn't performing well. Maybe he should ask for some of the stuff Sarkozy uses. I mean, he's such a hyperactive ! He must be taking things that could help Obama. :zaru

Toby
03-11-2009, 04:39 PM
I call BS, the Bundeswehr in Afghanistan are nothing more than heavily armed policemen. The other European NATO states have only sent a handful of solders.


Indeed, and how many more can we send out of the allotted forces for NATO-deployment? Unlike the US, we can't just pull ten thousand soldiers out of nowhere. European NATO members have a much stricter regulation-system for how large a portion of our forces we can deploy for NATO-operations. Our logistics-personnel can be boosted for thousands, but when it comes to combat-forces we begin to look at long-term investments, such as would require larger commitments from either or both of the three biggest European armies, the German, French and the British.

Now which one, like I said, is likely to make that move unilaterally? The US wanted this war, so the Europeans won't stick their heads further into the door unless the Americans show up and promise to be there with them. The US left the ISAF-force close to minimal force-deployment levels by going into Iraq, a mistake which it is their task alone to do something about. And as I mentioned, their commander in chief promised to redeploy the Iraqi mission to Afghanistan. He ran on this promise, and he can damn well deliver it if he wants as much as a single more bullet from his NATO allies. It's about time he delivered what he promised. How many brigades have been moved compared to his campaign-targets? Not enough to be proud of, that's how many.

narutosimpson
03-11-2009, 04:50 PM
wouldn't the "let's talk to taleban" approach indicate that a war strategy change is imminent? Doesn't sound like he wants to duke it out with them.

Vom Osten
03-11-2009, 05:00 PM
Indeed, and how many more can we send out of the allotted forces for NATO-deployment? Unlike the US, we can't just pull ten thousand soldiers out of nowhere. European NATO members have a much stricter regulation-system for how large a portion of our forces we can deploy for NATO-operations. Our logistics-personnel can be boosted for thousands, but when it comes to combat-forces we begin to look at long-term investments, such as would require larger commitments from either or both of the three biggest European armies, the German, French and the British.

Perhaps the Europeans should adress their problems of underfunding their armed forces?

Now which one, like I said, is likely to make that move unilaterally? The US wanted this war, so the Europeans won't stick their heads further into the door unless the Americans show up and promise to be there with them. The US left the ISAF-force close to minimal force-deployment levels by going into Iraq, a mistake which it is their task alone to do something about. And as I mentioned, their commander in chief promised to redeploy the Iraqi mission to Afghanistan. He ran on this promise, and he can damn well deliver it if he wants as much as a single more bullet from his NATO allies. It's about time he delivered what he promised. How many brigades have been moved compared to his campaign-targets? Not enough to be proud of, that's how many.

I hope you do remember that the war in Afghanistan began because of 9/11 right? Remember that the NATO charter calls an attack on one nation an attack on all nations.

Mibu Clan
03-11-2009, 05:05 PM
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Cardboard Tube Knight
03-11-2009, 06:05 PM
The Prime Minister should've kept himself in his own terrority untill at least some level of improvement was made in the US economically. Then again, Britain can go to hell for all I care.

Do you just keep a prepared list of stupid things to post?

neko-sennin
03-11-2009, 07:45 PM
Difficult, the job of president.

Yes, especially when one actually takes said job seriously. All I can say is, at least he's not on vacation for the umpteenth time this year, and had to be reminded by babysitters that the British PM was even visiting in the first place. Given that the UK has problems of its own, one would hope Mr Brown doesn't take this too personally.

As for the smoking thing, I can believe it. In all my years, I've known people who can go for weeks without pot, with nary a wistful remark on the subject ...and entirely too many people who'll bite your head off if they have to work for more than 2 or 3 hours without a cigarette. Go figure.

Toby
03-11-2009, 08:43 PM
Perhaps the Europeans should adress their problems of underfunding their armed forces?

In this global meltdown? Not likely that will happen. I agree that it should happen, but that's not what I was talking about. It would be nice if the EU did form its own collective armed force, and made it responsive to international operations, but that is what would be nice, and not what is realistic. The reality is that the US coddled Europe and spoiled it with military presence and guarantees for military intervention. It is not surprising then that European nations by and large formed armies for self-defence rather than for conquest as they used to.

Now don't get me wrong, Europe shouldn't have relied on the Americans, but they have made the NATO-alliance this way. They cannot blame us for not contributing when they are spoiling us with candy.


I hope you do remember that the war in Afghanistan began because of 9/11 right? Remember that the NATO charter calls an attack on one nation an attack on all nations.

Sure, but back then they didn't expect non-state organisations to be able to stage an attack on a member state. It was unheard of. I know my history, and you can't validate the invasion's argument unless you argue by extension that, in refusing to disarm the Al Qaeda elements in Afghanistan, the Taleban, and as such Afghanistan, was a valid target. Afghanistan in itself was harmless to the US. Its people did not stage the 9/11 attacks. I hope you realise that.