View Full Version : Gundam 00 S2 episode 21 "The door to reform " (革新の扉) live/Raw/sub discussion
Blaze of Glory
02-28-2009, 11:38 PM
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Episode synopsis: The crew of Ptolemy 2 receives information about Lagrange Point 5 from Celestial Being’s financial backer and primary informant, Wang Liu Ming. According to Ian, there is a secret CB factory in that vicinity, and that his wife, Linda, is developing new equipment there. While hoping to enhance their war capabilities, they earnestly head toward the point designated by Wang Liu Ming.
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Episode Review:
To all Gundam 00 viewers I regret to inform all of you that you may have to wait until tommorow to watch this episode depending on whether or not a miracle happens and freshverse decides to show 00 or there's another site we can watch this episode.
IchiTenshou
03-01-2009, 12:22 AM
hahah first time to be the 1st post in here lol ^^
cant wait
Legend
03-01-2009, 12:25 AM
What time on the east coast of the US does it come on?
FireHawk64
03-01-2009, 01:34 AM
3 AM EAST COAST. most likely KHTV again for this week
freshverse is working i hope it doesnt overload or anything.
Last week I didn't bother staying up. Here's hoping I won't be disappointed tonight.
FireHawk64
03-01-2009, 03:31 AM
Last week I didn't bother staying up. Here's hoping I won't be disappointed tonight.
not sure, Freshverse is working but they are not showing tbs.
It's usually like that before the show actually airs.
FireHawk64
03-01-2009, 03:49 AM
It's usually like that before the show actually airs.
im running Key hole and freshverse right now, ill edit this post if it starts on Freshverse. 10 minutes from now.
FRESH VERSE NOW
They're showing it. I'm glad I stayed up.
FireHawk64
03-01-2009, 04:03 AM
wow Innovator Setsuna is showing in the first 15 seconds. i thought it would be a big deal..........
OMG I"VE THE WAY SETSUNA PILOTS NOW IS AMAZING
Setsuna, The Innovator. :awesome
Blaze of Glory
03-01-2009, 04:10 AM
HOLY SHIT!
Louise get's to speak with the godly Mr. Bushido :awesome
AGAIN with that goddamn song by those damn children! :yell
How did she survive? :omg
Blaze of Glory
03-01-2009, 04:12 AM
Holy shit they're alive ! :awesome
FireHawk64
03-01-2009, 04:12 AM
Setsuna, The Innovator. :awesome
the pattern on his eyes are different.:nuts
Blaze of Glory
03-01-2009, 04:13 AM
Hong Long beat Nena with your kung fu :LOS
Goodbye, what's your name... :lmao
Oh come on. Once is enough...
Blaze of Glory
03-01-2009, 04:17 AM
MISTER FUCKING BUSHIDO! :yell :yell :yell
Graham returns? :omg
Ok, she has to be dead now...
Blaze of Glory
03-01-2009, 04:19 AM
Okay now Wang's really dead :zaru
OH SHIT!
Ribbons fucked Nena
Oh shit, Louise will take care of Nena now. :wtf
Blaze of Glory
03-01-2009, 04:22 AM
:facepalm
That's what you get for playing around too damn much Nena :zaru
Lol, Loiuse just lost it.
Blaze of Glory
03-01-2009, 04:24 AM
Louise you really are a fucking weirdo and here you're criticizing other people for being weird you're a crazy bitch. Just like the Celestial Being people you hate. :lmao
Moon Light
03-01-2009, 04:24 AM
:cry :laugh Louise Finally got revenge on the right Gundam Serves Nena right
FireHawk64
03-01-2009, 04:26 AM
LOL flop i hope they dedicate all 25 minutes to mister bushido vs setsuna, OMG THE ENDING SPEECH SETSUNA, I never believe you would turn out to be awesome.
BUSHIDO NAKEED? DO NOT WANT
Noooo, not more nakedness....
FireHawk64
03-01-2009, 04:28 AM
Never mind, Marina goes to space.
Blaze of Glory
03-01-2009, 04:29 AM
ME WANT NEXT IS TO SEE NAKED TITTIES! :yell
Lol, finally Nena is gone. Her laughed annoyed the hell out of me.
ME WANT NEXT IS TO SEE NAKED TITTIES! :yell
From Setsuna and Graham? :ho
FireHawk64
03-01-2009, 04:32 AM
they looked like Kati.http://dec.2chan.net:81/18/src/1235896075877.jpg
ChocolateBar999
03-01-2009, 04:32 AM
I was torned up by Louise calling out to her parents after killing Nena, yes I know she's crazy now but still
Blaze of Glory
03-01-2009, 04:32 AM
From Setsuna and Graham? :ho
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! :uwah
Feldt and Marina :drool
Good episode btw
Probaly the best since episode 15
me likes :ho
ChocolateBar999
03-01-2009, 04:32 AM
http://dec.2chan.net:81/18/src/1235896075877.jpg
they looked like Kati.
That's Shirin
FireHawk64
03-01-2009, 04:35 AM
You wanted them naked? you got them naked
http://dec.2chan.net:81/18/src/1235896045265.jpg
Lol, it was enjoyable because Nena and Wang Liu Mei are gone. :zaru
FireHawk64
03-01-2009, 04:39 AM
i need raw link NAO. i need to watch that awesomeness in HD.
http://dec.2chan.net:81/18/src/1235895883565.jpg
setsuna dies after being hit with that attack :cry
expect good episode 21 parody, there's a shit load of stuff to work with.
http://dec.2chan.net:81/18/src/1235895339857.jpg
tieria's new look.
Moon Light
03-01-2009, 04:45 AM
Liu Mie could of lived but glad Nena's Dead Hope Graham and Setsuna have an Awesome Battle that lasts more then 5 minutes..
blah604
03-01-2009, 04:49 AM
FUCK OFF RIBBONS :P
Heres the usual pics + summary (http://blah604.wordpress.com/2009/03/01/gundam-00-season-2-episode-21/)
ChocolateBar999
03-01-2009, 04:49 AM
Liu Mie could of lived but glad Nena's Dead Hope Graham and Setsuna have an Awesome Battle that lasts more then 5 minutes..
I don't see the point in her living since despite the fact that she wished for change she herself wouldn't of change. But the facial expressions in this episode were top tier, especially Wang and Nena's when they died, well Ali's next on the list.
FireHawk64
03-01-2009, 04:55 AM
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o92/blahhh604/Gundam%2000%20S2%20Ep%2021/22-1.jpg
i think he said he became a Gundam during that scene
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o92/blahhh604/Gundam%2000%20S2%20Ep%2021/15.jpg
Louise pwnage.
only 4 more episodes to go :cry
whoever thinks the enemy MA sucks this season think again
ChocolateBar999
03-01-2009, 05:10 AM
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o92/blahhh604/Gundam%2000%20S2%20Ep%2021/15.jpg
Louise pwnage.
only 4 more episodes to go :cry
whoever thinks the enemy MA sucks this season think again
One MS compared to all the Aheads and Gadessa that constantly got owned this season:huh
reaperunique
03-01-2009, 06:22 AM
looking forward to the subs
RED MINOTAUR~!
03-01-2009, 06:57 AM
Just for the record, I stopped watching when I read last week's summary, and now it's been confirmed for me that I made the right choice :zaru
Part 2 of Gundam 00 is now on the same wavelength as Code Trainwreck :ho
son_michael
03-01-2009, 07:09 AM
so has Louise realized she destroyed the gundam that killed her family? Unless ribbons messes with her mind again then she should think she avenged her parents and be satisfied
cant wait to watch this when it gets subbed
Moon Light
03-01-2009, 07:10 AM
TV-J Episode 21 Raw is out (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=52577) (1280x720 DivX6.8 24f).avi smile-big
Golbez
03-01-2009, 09:46 AM
Enough with the frekkin nudity! :argh
Masurao
03-01-2009, 02:15 PM
Just for the record, I stopped watching when I read last week's summary, and now it's been confirmed for me that I made the right choice :zaru
Part 2 of Gundam 00 is now on the same wavelength as Code Trainwreck :ho
Good for you. Now kindly gtfo. :zaru
FireHawk64
03-01-2009, 03:31 PM
no subs yet?
Blaze of Glory
03-01-2009, 03:41 PM
Just for the record, I stopped watching when I read last week's summary, and now it's been confirmed for me that I made the right choice :zaru
Part 2 of Gundam 00 is now on the same wavelength as Code Trainwreck :ho
I didn't know there was someone as dumb Wesley for once this entire week I am surprised. Stop trolling and gtfo
IchiTenshou
03-01-2009, 04:03 PM
lol naked resonance moment again >_<
very nice ep
so Setsuna become an innovator O.o nice
Blaze of Glory
03-01-2009, 04:44 PM
Sheeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit ! :wth
Now I know what I forgot to do
I forgot to add a rate episode poll to this thread :scry
Hey mods can you copy and paste the episode rating poll I put in the last episode thread onto this one? :wtf
Those other Innovators should have died as well. Stupid escape pods.
Valky
03-01-2009, 05:47 PM
What the !? Setsuna become Innovator? :wth
Can't wait for the sub one. And btw, is Mr. Awesome Bushido die? Or they still fighting?
MalwareDie
03-01-2009, 06:49 PM
There better be a good explanation for Setsuna becoming an Innovator....
Biolink
03-01-2009, 07:33 PM
It's not out of left field. It was already explained that the GN Bullet he was shot with by Ali was supposed to kill, and break him down like what happened to Louise, and Lasse, but instead do to the high exposure of GN Particles do to him piloting 00-Raiser, the GN Bullet had a reverse effect, and he gained Quantum Brain Waves.
There's a high chance it'll be explained even more in the coming weeks. Ribbons doesn't seem too pleased, about Setsuna's evolution.
Blaze of Glory
03-01-2009, 07:37 PM
There better be a good explanation for Setsuna becoming an Innovator....
The explanation was already given when he was shot in the shoulder in episode 15 the bullet was packed with GN particles which was intended to kill him instead became an asset.
reaperunique
03-01-2009, 08:48 PM
talk about a ricoshet bullet :awesome
Tachi67
03-01-2009, 10:53 PM
Plot Twister! Setsuna now thinks the Aeolia planned this from the start that this is the start of reform. I wonder if he'll leave with 00 Gundam w/ O-Raiser to the innovators, and think Celestial Being are the bad guys O.O. Then that might also make Tierria become an innovator too! lol, just my imagination
superman_1
03-02-2009, 12:05 AM
oh man...this eps was good... setsuna undergoing innovation...awesome... louise finally got her revenge... so glad wang is gone now... big battle coming up... cant wait for next ep...
Louise finally snapped. :awesome
son_michael
03-02-2009, 01:02 AM
Plot Twister! Setsuna now thinks the Aeolia planned this from the start that this is the start of reform. I wonder if he'll leave with 00 Gundam w/ O-Raiser to the innovators, and think Celestial Being are the bad guys O.O. Then that might also make Tierria become an innovator too! lol, just my imagination
Tierria is an innovator but he wasn't created by ribbons
there's no way in hell Setsuna would join the other innovators,in fact I bet that of Setsuna gains control of VEDA then the remaining innovators will side with setsuna since they would realize ribbons went against Aeolia's plan
Graham Aker
03-02-2009, 01:17 AM
Really loving Setsuna's growth as a pilot. I wouldn't be surprised if he defeats Graham next episode.
Ribbons better bring his A game when they inevitably fight. Otherwise he'll get his butt one shotted.
Blaze of Glory
03-02-2009, 01:25 AM
I am so fucking ashamed of Graham...... :C
He'd sell his soul to the Innovators just so he can fight Setsuna..... :angry
What the hell's the matter with you boy? :wth
son_michael
03-02-2009, 01:28 AM
I am so fucking ashamed of Graham...... :C
He'd sell his soul to the Innovators just so he can fight Setsuna..... :angry
What the hell's the matter with you boy? :wth
how did he even find out about the innovators?:huh
Diceman
03-02-2009, 01:29 AM
how did he even find out about the innovators?:huh
Well,he did get a special license.Besides Innovators themselves,only Graham has one.
Graham Aker
03-02-2009, 01:49 AM
how did he even find out about the innovators?
Homer Katagiri most likely.
He and Homer knew each other through Billy. In fact, as stated in the novels, it was thanks to Homer that Graham got his GN Flag in season 1.
And lawl Blaze, Graham does not care if you're ashamed of him. :P
If Graham can fight "the boy" Graham does not care if the entire world ridicules him. :hmpf
Rob_Zero
03-02-2009, 01:59 AM
Tierria is an innovator but he wasn't created by ribbons
Actually, recent chapters of 00P (the prequel novel serialised in Dengeki Hobby) have hinted at Ribbons having a hand in Tieria becoming a Meister.
son_michael
03-02-2009, 02:12 AM
Actually, recent chapters of 00P (the prequel novel serialised in Dengeki Hobby) have hinted at Ribbons having a hand in Tieria becoming a Meister.
I had no idea such novels existed but even so i'm saying Tieria was not created by ribbons cause if he was he would just be another puppet mindslave
MasterKakuzu
03-02-2009, 02:12 AM
Did this inspire masurao's hidden cannon?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jts0xxg7P8I
I uploaded a bunch of gifs from this week's episode to The Gundam Gif Shop. I like the first two the most. :zaru
FireHawk64
03-02-2009, 02:55 AM
I got it right(innosetsuna), now i don't know what to think for the next few episodes. Maybe marina gets preggers by setsuna somehow?
reaperunique
03-02-2009, 04:41 AM
I got it right, now i don't know what to think for the next few episodes. Maybe marina gets preggers by setsuna somehow?
That would be nice, imagine:
little setsunasGundams with innovator eyes and Marina personalities or little Marinas with innovator eyes and SetsunaGundam personalities. :ho
either way we would get children with Innovator powers so Ribons dream would be fulfilled within 10 years
FireHawk64
03-02-2009, 04:53 AM
That would be nice, imagine:
little setsunasGundams with innovator eyes and Marina personalities or little Marinas with innovator eyes and SetsunaGundam personalities. :ho
either way we would get children with Innovator powers so Ribons dream would be fulfilled within 10 years
LOL, i was thinking they would make Saji an innovator(bit of a stretch).i think Setsuna will reveal himself to the world that he is the only real innovator alive.
reaperunique
03-02-2009, 12:22 PM
finished the episode, good episode was good, setsuna undergoing innovation, love it, he is just to epic for words.
Oh and I lol'd at the end, after Louise killed Nena:
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n89/coldvinc/where.jpg
...Ha..Ha..Ha..ha..
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n89/coldvinc/ED_laughing_at_Louise.jpg
...Ha..Ha..Ha..ha..
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n89/coldvinc/goodjob.jpg
...Ha..Ha..Ha..ha..
XD the ED was lauging at psycho Louise
You know, I usually hate the psycho characters (Four, Puru, etc.), but I think they're doing it right this time with Louise.
Overally, good episode. I figured Setsuna would become an inovator.... but I think I'm a little dissapointed that it actually came true.
Hell On Earth
03-02-2009, 12:35 PM
Great episode
Golbez
03-02-2009, 03:52 PM
Great, Louise, you succeeded at life. Now go get yourself killed. :LOS
Anyway, how many episodes do we have left to savour?
Cynic
03-02-2009, 04:20 PM
Graham's updated Masurao, Susanoo, looks pretty cool although I don't think I like his new double-sword/staff thing. I prefer him using beam sabers or regular GN swords. Other than that it was pretty cool though. His hidden cannon was interesting.
Kira Yamato
03-02-2009, 09:00 PM
Interesting episode. Louise got to avenge her parents, not by killing any gundam pilot but by killing the very person who killed her parents.
And Setsuna's undergoing innovation is truly interesting beyond words. I still want to see what lies for the first human to undergo the process.
Tyrannos
03-02-2009, 11:27 PM
It was a good episode. Though I didn't expect Liu Mei would be a power-hungry bitch as well and getting killed off when she's finally flipping out.
Nina, well she went out like the bitch she was. :zaru
Shin_Yagami
03-02-2009, 11:37 PM
To think that I was annoyed at first that Gundam 00 also had become one of the kiddie shows where an character got an arm injury and would then pass out and actually be terribly injured.
I was relieved when it turned out to be a special bullet but this was just amazing, Setsuna like this is very promising.I just hope it won't end up with him being taken over by Ribbon's and ruin an whole espisode.That would probably mean that he kicks ass all episode (Action would be okay but I mean ruined plotwise) and then Mirina shows up and sings a song that makes him fight the control......So many variations of that have been done already.
son_michael
03-02-2009, 11:41 PM
To think that I was annoyed at first that Gundam 00 also had become one of the kiddie shows where an character got an arm injury and would then pass out and actually be terribly injured.
I was relieved when it turned out to be a special bullet but this was just amazing, Setsuna like this is very promising.I just hope it won't end up with him being taken over by Ribbon's and ruin an whole espisode.That would probably mean that he kicks ass all episode (Action would be okay but I mean ruined plotwise) and then Mirina shows up and sings a song that makes him fight the control......So many variations of that have been done already.
that cant and wont happen because
1.Celestial being is going to take control of VEDA and ribbons cant do anything without VEDA
2. Ribbons can only control the innovators that he created,evidence is how he wasn't able to force Tieria to join him
Legend
03-02-2009, 11:46 PM
This ep was EPIC:gar.
Shin_Yagami
03-03-2009, 12:06 AM
that cant and wont happen because
1.Celestial being is going to take control of VEDA and ribbons cant do anything without VEDA
2. Ribbons can only control the innovators that he created,evidence is how he wasn't able to force Tieria to join him
I doubt that that Ribbons wouldn't be able to use Quantum Waves after losing VEDA.Though I certainly hope you're right since it would be a serious let down.
One thing about your second reason though, has it been confirmed how Setsuna was turned into an Innovater?So in that case who says it wasn't Ribbons, he had tainted the bullet, reason why it had been doing so much damage to Setsuna so for him to add an Innovation serum isn't really that much of an stretch.
I find that one make more sense, otherwise it would be something like him being so close to the Twin Drive, I'm not really looking forward to an Innovater Saji, who would also be turned if that had been the reason.
son_michael
03-03-2009, 12:13 AM
I doubt that that Ribbons wouldn't be able to use Quantum Waves after losing VEDA.Though I certainly hope you're right since it would be a serious let down.
it was my understanding that VEDA was specifically made to interact with the innovators and without it they would just be much smarter humans
One thing about your second reason though, has it been confirmed how Setsuna was turned into an Innovater?So in that case who says it wasn't Ribbons, he had tainted the bullet, reason why it had been doing so much damage to Setsuna so for him to add an Innovation serum isn't really that much of an stretch.
I find that one make more sense, otherwise it would be something like him being so close to the Twin Drive, I'm not really looking forward to an Innovater Saji, who would also be turned if that had been the reason.
its confirmed that the bullet is not the reaosn setsuna is becoming an innovator, the bullet was meant to slowly kill him like posion but it seems the special gn particles from 00 changed the poison into a mutation to evolve stesuna into an innovator
ribbons deffinetley never planed for Setsuna to become an Innovator
Shin_Yagami
03-03-2009, 12:25 AM
it was my understanding that VEDA was specifically made to interact with the innovators and without it they would just be much smarter humans
That could be, at the same time it could also just be the supercomputer itself and that a requirement of bringing out it's full potential is being an Innovator.Basically the other way around, Innovatos were specifically made to interact with Veda. Either way, we'll probably find out next episode.
its confirmed that the bullet is not the reaosn setsuna is becoming an innovator, the bullet was meant to slowly kill him like posion but it seems the special gn particles from 00 changed the poison into a mutation to evolve stesuna into an innovator
ribbons deffinetley never planed for Setsuna to become an Innovator
It seemed like a dirty trick Ribbons would pull, to get the 00 like that but now that you say it, it would make sense that a GN based poison radiated by high amounts of GN particles could mutate it and ah well, I try not to go too long on about fictional sciences like that.
But it seems likely, thank god we won't have a Saji innovator. Those Quantum cuddle sessions are annoying as it is, if both were Innovators then there would be no stopping them.
RAGING BONER
03-03-2009, 12:31 AM
innovators are not only smarter, they are longer lived (unknown how long but Ribbons hasnt aged yet) and they are also able to live indefinetely in 0 gravity, something humans cannot do...this is essentially the main purpose for innovation, to allow humanity to colonize deep space without our bones and heart turning to mush from lack of gravity.
neodragzero
03-03-2009, 05:58 PM
finished the episode, good episode was good, setsuna undergoing innovation, love it, he is just to epic for words.
Oh and I lol'd at the end, after Louise killed Nena:
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n89/coldvinc/where.jpg
...Ha..Ha..Ha..ha..
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n89/coldvinc/ED_laughing_at_Louise.jpg
...Ha..Ha..Ha..ha..
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n89/coldvinc/goodjob.jpg
...Ha..Ha..Ha..ha..
XD the ED was lauging at psycho Louise
:laugh
Oh, Louise, you're like Char...except without the skills, intelligence, control of one's destiny, backbone machismo, leadership quality, charisma, marbles, and being cool enough to be happy with something you finally got.
Overall, I really liked this episode. Two annoying, whiny chick deaths that were a long time coming, more combat, and more development on the innovation thing.
RAGING BONER
03-04-2009, 01:52 AM
the 2 biggest bitches in 00 died this ep...
twas a good day :)
the 2 biggest bitches in 00 died this ep...
twas a good day :)
That sums it up perfectly. :awesome
FireHawk64
03-04-2009, 04:38 AM
new spoilers doesn't look good for the rest of the season, prepare to be dissapointed.
new spoilers doesn't look good for the rest of the season, prepare to be dissapointed.
Oh, a link perhaps?
Edit: Never mind, I think I found them.
Tachi67
03-05-2009, 09:37 PM
The biggest question is... How did Katagiri create a "Gundam"(As Sumeragi said in Season 1 "We Are Now Fighting Gundam Against Gundam") With Trans-AM? Didn't Celestial Being Like Kill His Teacher Guy, before Trans-AM was even revealed. I'm pretty sure Ribbons still doesn't know how to get Trans-AM for his Innovators. Heck, He Even Hacked Veda.
Crossclowned12
03-05-2009, 09:58 PM
Where are the spoilers?
FireHawk64
03-05-2009, 10:27 PM
The biggest question is... How did Katagiri create a "Gundam"(As Sumeragi said in Season 1 "We Are Now Fighting Gundam Against Gundam") With Trans-AM? Didn't Celestial Being Like Kill His Teacher Guy, before Trans-AM was even revealed. I'm pretty sure Ribbons still doesn't know how to get Trans-AM for his Innovators. Heck, He Even Hacked Veda.
I've said the same thing somewhere else, only to get shot down very quickly. I'm with you, the trinity's killed his ass before the the United Nations became the Earth Sphere Federation. it's just one of the many plot holes this series has.
son_michael
03-05-2009, 11:33 PM
The biggest question is... How did Katagiri create a "Gundam"(As Sumeragi said in Season 1 "We Are Now Fighting Gundam Against Gundam") With Trans-AM? Didn't Celestial Being Like Kill His Teacher Guy, before Trans-AM was even revealed. I'm pretty sure Ribbons still doesn't know how to get Trans-AM for his Innovators. Heck, He Even Hacked Veda.
VEDA doesn't have any info on Trans am,apparently only the original GN drives have that info built into them and they were activated upon aeolia's death
Biolink
03-06-2009, 08:04 PM
The biggest question is... How did Katagiri create a "Gundam"(As Sumeragi said in Season 1 "We Are Now Fighting Gundam Against Gundam") With Trans-AM? Didn't Celestial Being Like Kill His Teacher Guy, before Trans-AM was even revealed. I'm pretty sure Ribbons still doesn't know how to get Trans-AM for his Innovators. Heck, He Even Hacked Veda.
It's called Burst mode, not Trans-Am.
It's similar, but the workings are more than likely totally different.
I would imagine that the Masuro(speling?) has like GN condensers and stuff, that hold extra GN Particles.
Billy probably saw Trans-Am, and decided that even though he didn't know everything about it, he could reverse engineer it to still get a similar effect.
As to the others, not having Burst Mode, I would assume, it's because most of the stuff Billy invents, is entirely experimental. There's also the fact that, the G's hitting your body from Burst Mode would take a beating on your body.
With like 4 episodes left, I wouldn't put off the enemies gaining Burst Mode just yet.
RAGING BONER
03-06-2009, 09:43 PM
a better question would be...why doesnt Celestial being scrap 2 of the 3 remaining gundams and build another 00-Raiser?
at this point those 3 gundams are damn near useless and 00 seems to be carrying them in every battle. If they had 2 00's they'd be whooping MAJOR ass...then they could install the final GN drive into the Ptolmaos and the ship could have its own Trans- am drive for when it gets into stciky situations.
Biolink
03-07-2009, 12:04 AM
Exia and 0 Gundam's GN Drives were the only GN Drives that could synchronize with each other.
Every other combination of Exia, Virtue, 0, Kyrios, and Dynames was tried and every possible combination failed except for the previously mentioned two of Exia and 0.
Even after finding two GN Drives that could synchronize, we know that 00 Gundam was still having problems.
The frame taking a beating from the excess GN Particles, and the suit having to operate at close to darn near Trans-Am levels, in order to even function.
RAGING BONER
03-07-2009, 01:04 AM
you should realize how ridiculous that is...
CB has a 200 year old plan involving hundreds if not thousands of people, genetically enhanced humans, secret bases in space and even around jupiter, a computer so sophisticated that even after centuries there is nothing that rivals it (Veda). Not to mention that everyone in CB is a scientist of the highest order and that theyve masterminded a way to evolve humanity to the next stage.
so, with all these things that they seem capable of doing, i'm supposed to buy that the one hurdle they can't overcome is a minor synchronization problem? Get the fuck outta here!
Crossclowned12
03-07-2009, 01:45 AM
Ofcourse you are it's anime, you can't have more than one godly machine.
RAGING BONER
03-07-2009, 02:02 AM
Ofcourse you are it's anime, you can't have more than one godly machine.
Justice and Freedom...Providence
Wing Zero, Epyon and Shaolong.
plenty more.
Biolink
03-07-2009, 02:06 AM
Ofcourse you are it's anime, you can't have more than one godly machine.
QFT.
That's basically equivalent to the good guys have two Turn-A Gundams, or something like two Double X Gundams, or two V2 Gundams, or two Strike Freedom's, on one side.
Very exciting :nod
And it's not just a "Minor" synchronization problem. The suit can explode if it's unstable.
Each true GN Drive is unique, in some kind of way, with the exception being 0's drive and Exia's drive.
Aeolia probably had it done that way on purpose with the Twin Drive System in mind, and to prevent it from being used wrongly.
Jetstorm
03-07-2009, 09:44 AM
Pretty good episode. Glad that Louise got to kill Nena Trinity. That wasn't even a battle though, it was a god damned slaughter. Of course she shows how fucking nuts she is after that.
lol @ all this backstabbing going on among the innovator's side.
I kind of wish that Wang amounted to more. She really should have went with Setsuna lol.
Looks like its up to innovator Setsuna to save the world since all the other Meisters can't match him.
I liked that Graham felt more like himself in this episode and not just "Mr.Bushido". I really hope there battle is a kick ass one.
Someone kill Andrei already dammit!
Sephiroth
03-17-2009, 03:25 PM
Nena's death sucked, plain and simple. :/
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