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Mr Clean
02-20-2009, 01:07 PM
So Sunrise are dumping things like plausible plot and originality for the sake of making money...again.

http://ninteenpointzerofour.wordpress.com/2009/02/18/00-rumor-mill-lyle-x-anew-not-according-to-keikaku/#more-2080

通常の名无しさんの3倍:2009/01/23(金) 18:34:16 ID:???
So, it seems Lyle and Anew’s relationship was the result of sponsor pressure… I can’t help but feel disappointed. Mizushima and Kuroda, according to what the spoiler guys said, had initially planned on a ███ battle [between them]. Even if the audience didn’t like it, the scenario wouldn’t have changed, but they’re weak against the sponsors. It’s a weakness of the industry as a whole though, right?

FireHawk64
02-20-2009, 05:07 PM
good they stepped in it was originally going to be neil x tieria.

Austeria
02-20-2009, 05:49 PM
As ███ battle. :wtf

Well, that's Sunrise for you. Appeasing people comes before quality. Just be glad it's not up to the level we've seen in the catastrophe that was GSD.

RAGING BONER
02-20-2009, 06:03 PM
i knew there had to be a reason these god damned pairings keep popping up, totally irrelevant to the plot.

they are so damn cheesy and annoying...if i had any sort of self respect i'd stop watching this gundam altogether :pek

Goodfellow
02-20-2009, 06:37 PM
Executive meddling. When will they learn:facepalm?

Wesley
02-20-2009, 06:39 PM
Executive meddling. When will they learn:facepalm?

You get what you ask for and the audience wants Soma to be Gollum's f-toy apparently.

Goodfellow
02-20-2009, 07:49 PM
good they stepped in it was originally going to be neil x tieria.

And we would have loved it:awesome

Wesley
02-20-2009, 08:15 PM
And we would have loved it:awesome

Sunrise has to be destroyed. I'm convinced that they're the center of all evil in the universe and the only thing that stands between them and utter oblivion is GONZO! :yell

RED MINOTAUR~!
02-20-2009, 09:56 PM
Oh god, can you imagine if Gonzo and Sunrise did a collab? The show would literally jump out of my monitor and ram itself down my throat, burst through my belly button, and then force itself again into me, this time down my anus.

:edu

Wesley
02-20-2009, 11:10 PM
Oh god, can you imagine if Gonzo and Sunrise did a collab? The show would literally jump out of my monitor and ram itself down my throat, burst through my belly button, and then force itself again into me, this time down my anus.

:edu

No way. Unlike certain other studios, Gonzo has standards and doesn't seem to hate America as much as certain studios that shall remain nameless that are named Sunrise. :hmpf

Diceman
02-20-2009, 11:37 PM
Didn't they do something similar for Code Geass R2?

Goodfellow
02-21-2009, 04:35 AM
Oh god, can you imagine if Gonzo and Sunrise did a collab? The show would literally jump out of my monitor and ram itself down my throat, burst through my belly button, and then force itself again into me, this time down my anus.

:edu

Are you talking about Strike Witches:LOS?

(Actually, the concept of Strike Witches is remarkable fresh and original. But I couldn't stomach even five seconds of it when I tried it for the lulz:lmao)

Wesley
02-21-2009, 05:25 AM
Are you talking about Strike Witches:LOS?

(Actually, the concept of Strike Witches is remarkable fresh and original. But I couldn't stomach even five seconds of it when I tried it for the lulz:lmao)

It's a great series. The crotch shots are actually few and far between. And besides, they aren't panties, so it's not embarassing! :lmao

RED MINOTAUR~!
02-21-2009, 11:01 AM
I am talking about Dragonaut :LOS

Vandread was cool though :LOS

kulgan18
02-21-2009, 11:09 AM
I am talking about Dragonaut :LOS

Vandread was cool though :LOS

lol dont get me started with Dragonaut.
Really looks like it was made by russ meyer.

Kira Yamato
02-21-2009, 11:10 AM
It's a great series. The crotch shots are actually few and far between. And besides, they aren't panties, so it's not embarassing! :lmao

Sure, what ever let's your conscious sleep at night :lmao

I loved Strike Witches, but I can't provide good enough justification for all the criticism it has had heaped upon it.

I am talking about Dragonaut :LOS



I just pretend that series never happened :apathy

Vandread was cool though :LOS

Dear god..I loved both seasons :cry

Wesley
02-21-2009, 02:20 PM
I am talking about Dragonaut :LOS

Vandread was cool though :LOS

Vandread was garbage. Dragonaut had potentional, but it didn't play to it's strengths as much as it should have.

Sure, what ever let's your conscious sleep at night :lmao

I loved Strike Witches, but I can't provide good enough justification for all the criticism it has had heaped upon it.

Criticism only goes as far as the crotch shots and that was actually a minor point in the series. It might be a little silly that all the young women on the planet apparently do not wear pants or even skirts really, but there's a logical explanation for that. Regardless, once you get past the bare leggedness, you have a good cast of characters inspired by some of the most epic military heroes in history from the world over.

Personally, I like to think of the girls as being their grand children, rather than a geninue case of gender bending. Maybe that's disrepectful, maybe not, but that's what I tell myself when watch it and learn facts about the WWII fighter aces.

And most of all, there aren't any lesbians. A show with a huge female cast and none of them are flaming homosexuals. That right there is enough to make me happy.

Mr Clean
02-21-2009, 05:07 PM
Didn't they do something similar for Code Geass R2?

That's exactly it. Season 1 is about the plot, season 2 is about selling merchandise.

Are you talking about Strike Witches:LOS?

(Actually, the concept of Strike Witches is remarkable fresh and original. But I couldn't stomach even five seconds of it when I tried it for the lulz:lmao)

Grandpa fought in the war and died so we could turn him into a pantless loli.

RED MINOTAUR~!
02-21-2009, 08:59 PM
Dragonaut had potential during the first 3 or 4 episodes, but the rest of the series just got ruined by an everyplot that was fueled by fanservice and big boobs. I can't believe that the only chick with small titties, Akira, was the best girl in the show, and the bastards killed her off :facepalm

Anyway, this topic is on Gundam 00 forced sponsor pairings, although I must say that LylexAnew doesn't feel quite as forced as it seems. Anew's recent betrayal after her little 5 minutes of fame does however :zaru

And Bones > Gonzo + Sunrise anyway :hurr :hurr :hurr

TheWon
02-22-2009, 02:48 AM
[QUOTE=~RAGING BONER~;21813944]i knew there had to be a reason these god damned pairings keep popping up, totally irrelevant to the plot.

they are so damn cheesy and annoying...if i had any sort of self respect i'd stop watching this gundam altogether :p

I'm with you!

Red Zaku
02-22-2009, 05:08 AM
x.x Umm... The rumor is a fake guys and girls, and people who just needed an excuse to rage that've been confirmed fake please visit the following link http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=2000119&topic=48244036

Mr Clean
02-22-2009, 08:58 AM
x.x Umm... The rumor is a fake guys and girls, and people who just needed an excuse to rage that've been confirmed fake please visit the following link http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=2000119&topic=48244036

Nice try, we're not going to join your crappy GameFaqs discussion of the same topic, plus there's nothing there that shows that the pairings aren't forced by the sponsors.

Buzz off.

kulgan18
02-22-2009, 10:43 AM
What they create, the writters can easily destroy

Nice try, we're not going to join your crappy GameFaqs discussion of the same topic, plus there's nothing there that shows that the pairings aren't forced by the sponsors.
A post on 2ch is not any sort of official confirmation too.


Dragonaut had potential during the first 3 or 4 episodes, but the rest of the series just got ruined by an everyplot that was fueled by fanservice and big boobs. I can't believe that the only chick with small titties, Akira, was the best girl in the show, and the bastards killed her off :facepalm

Anyway, this topic is on Gundam 00 forced sponsor pairings, although I must say that LylexAnew doesn't feel quite as forced as it seems. Anew's recent betrayal after her little 5 minutes of fame does however :zaru

And Bones > Gonzo + Sunrise anyway :hurr :hurr :hurr

Come on, lets not go there :laugh

To be honest i find it pretty ignorant to attack sunrise based one 1 development of 1 series, considering how how many good show it has produced and how huge it is.

Do you guys realize sunrise is making like 3+ series at the same time, hell they even help with the animation of other studios.

Gintama one of the best and more interesting shounens currently airing.
From classics like planetes, cowboy bebop, votoms, escaflowne to gaiogagar.

Wesley
02-22-2009, 04:04 PM
Come one, lets not go there :laugh

To be honest i find it pretty ignorant to attack sunrise based one 1 development of 1 series, considering how how many good show it has produced and how huge it is.

Do you guys realize sunrise is making like 3+ series at the same time, hell they even help with the animation of other studios.

Gintama one of the best and more interesting shounens currently airing.
From classics like planetes, cowboy bebop, votoms, escaflowne to gaiogagar.

They had a hand in producing the anime adaptation of Kekkashi. As far as I'm concerned, that is the only worthwhile show they've aired in a long, long, while.

NewtypeS3
02-22-2009, 04:33 PM
Nice try, we're not going to join your crappy GameFaqs discussion of the same topic, plus there's nothing there that shows that the pairings aren't forced by the sponsors.
Buzz off.
...and a message board comprised of Japanese nerds with no lives who continually antagonize themselves with lies and lolis on what is the Japanese/original version of 4Chan is utterly trustworthy and should always be taken as truth, then?


Even when the only possible relationship forced upon us by the sponsors, Anew/Lockon-2, just ended with a spectacular explosion and death?
I mean, that just totally looks like the sponsors forced Sunrise to make a long and lasting rela... oh. :huh

Wesley
02-22-2009, 06:55 PM
Even when the only possible relationship forced upon us by the sponsors, Anew/Lockon-2, just ended with a spectacular explosion and death?
I mean, that just totally looks like the sponsors forced Sunrise to make a long and lasting rela... oh. :huh

So they were forced together just so they could be torn apart. :zaru

reaperunique
02-22-2009, 08:21 PM
I don't see the problem,they confirmed that Setsuna is a bitchkiller and that Lyle is single again.

Wesley
02-22-2009, 08:38 PM
I don't see the problem,they confirmed that Setsuna is a bitchkiller and that Lyle is single again.

Not true. The fact that he permits all of the women around to continue breathing proves that he is not a bitch killer.

reaperunique
02-23-2009, 06:22 AM
oh yeah I forgot, my bad

Jetstorm
03-01-2009, 01:41 AM
After catching back up with the latest episodes I'm not surprised. With all these god damn pairings on the battlefield it makes it harder to enjoy the action. :sag

Whether its true or not I was happier when the battles weren't such a convoluted romantic mess.

Sander RX
03-01-2009, 10:28 AM
One thing I dont get.Why are studios given so much importance by Anime fans?Arent directors(btw,Mizushima is awesome when with BONES and sucks with Sunrise?) and screenwriters what really matters?Honestly I dont remember seeing "boo Universal Studios sucks" or "Paramoun Pictures rulz" when it comes to movies...

And honestly,███ battles?We wouldnt get anymore intrigues and backstabbing than we already have with Ribbons VS Regene conflict.

reaperunique
03-01-2009, 01:02 PM
do you know a director who makes a movie/show without a studio? Please tell...

Sander RX
03-01-2009, 01:20 PM
do you know a director who makes a movie/show without a studio? Please tell...
Your point being?Imigawa will be Imigawa,Anno will be Anno and Tomino will be Tomino no matter the what studio they team up with.

Isnt it wrong to praise/hate "obscure *Insert Studio name* writers",when sometimes those arent exclusively Sunrise or whatever studio writers at all...

Its saddening when people are perjudiced/prehyped to something just because of the studio.

Fei
03-08-2009, 11:53 PM
After today's episode (22), I don't see how this isn't happening. The start of a Setsuna x Feldt pairing? Two characters who have only had a couple of scenes together and said only a handful of words to each other, are now heading toward the couple's route? Seriously?

Red Zaku
03-09-2009, 11:29 PM
After today's episode (22), I don't see how this isn't happening. The start of a Setsuna x Feldt pairing? Two characters who have only had a couple of scenes together and said only a handful of words to each other, are now heading toward the couple's route? Seriously?


>.> Feldt developed a crush for Lockon because of a conversation he was having with Tieria that she simply overheard. From the very start Feldts actions as far as crushes have been to cling to whatever male figure she sees as being strong who she can identify with. Without even meeting Lyle she obviously showed outward signs of having a crush on him just because he looked like Neil. That's really all that happened here, Setsuna said something that she can relate with herself and she's developed a fondness for him because of that. Feldt's just got a very fickle heart, it's definately not new and definately not forced by the studio....

Amaya no Hime
03-11-2009, 04:25 AM
Lyle x Anew felt really sudden and out of nowhere. I completely ruined a few episodes for me. I wish they had cut it out.

What's this about Setsuna x Feldt? I didn't notice that anywhere...
It's a pretty popular pairing but it makes no sense.

Tachi67
03-11-2009, 03:42 PM
Lyle x Anew felt really sudden and out of nowhere. I completely ruined a few episodes for me. I wish they had cut it out.

What's this about Setsuna x Feldt? I didn't notice that anywhere...
It's a pretty popular pairing but it makes no sense.

Uh did u not see Feldt giving setsuna that flower, and she said She might anger Marina. Plus She blushed with great compassion for Setsuna while him replying with heartless answers.