Gundam 00 S2 episode 19 "Shadow of the innovators"(イノベイターの影)live/Raw/sub discussion

[Blaze of Glory]

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Episode synopsis


While the complexity of the war situation between Celestial Being and A-LAWS becomes apparent, Saji desperately searches for his lover, Louise, who is an enemy MS pilot. On the other hand, while fulfilling his duty, Setsuna unleashes the Twin Drive’s power when he takes Hilling’s attack. An enormous amount of GN particles engulf the entire battlefield.

Check back after episode ends for rating
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Episode rating

92%

"As soon as the episode begins; boredom ends."




Episode Review: Coming into this episode I somehow knew it was going to be ended due to Saji's cries and I was right. It's a damn shame too because Marie or Soma now was about to kill Andrei but oh well there will be plenty of chances later. And a not-so surprising ending for Wang Lui mei, I really enjoyed seeing the Drei throne and it's awesome Particles dusts which remind me so much of Evangelion unit 1 from Neon Genesis Evangelion. It's a shame it was expected of her to be one of the final players in the last couple of episodes but turns out she was killed in a somewhat similar fashion as Alejandro Corner. Ribbons temper and violence continue rising it's only a matter of time before it will be the reason for his downfall. The thing that peaked my interest at the last part of the episode was how Lockon spoke of Anew when he saw Revive Revival so it's a possibility that he may be aware of her status as an innovator and what his actions will be to the newly awakened Anew Returner innovator may leave this couple with tragic ending.

I'm looking forward to tonight's episode :amuse

[Muk]

love triangle bushido, setusna, ali :gar best love triangle

hopefully something happens with them 3 :gar

[Aeon]

Setsuna can love no one else except his Gundam. :LOS

[Biolink]

Come on dude.

Where's the Vegeta ownage in that fight? XD

Where's the clip where he Gorilla pounded Goku for an entire episode?

[Masurao]

I'm looking forward to this episode as well. Setsuna x Gundam is obviously canon. In all seriousness though, I hope Soma kills Andrei in this episode. Though the chances of that happening are slim to none.

[Aeon]

Unfortunately, I don't see Andrei dying soon either...

[SilentBobX]

Where's my Feldt!!! :argh

how come it's not on Freshserve yet!?

[blah604]

great, freshverse not showing, need to get enw u[date on keyhole

[Moon Light]

no gundam on freshverse look like wait for raw :amuse

[Aeon]

This sucks and I can't find it anywhere else...

[jagass]

I will wait for tonight's episode...

[Aeon]

I finally was able to watch it on KHTV.

[Aeon]

Heh, Marina wasn't shot last episode. :lmao

[SilentBobX]

Heh, Marina wasn't shot last episode. :lmao

Dammit! Stop bringing bad news!

[Moon Light]

:laugh I'm glad Marina wasnt shot.

[blah604]

who did anew shoot?

[blah604]

wow nena's beast!

[Masurao]

I can never get any of these streams to work. So I suppose I'll wait for the RAW, and sub streams to surface on other various websites.

[Aeon]

Looks like Nena took out Wang Liu Mei with a new Gundam?

[Aeon]

I can never get any of these streams to work. So I suppose I'll wait for the RAW, and sub streams to surface on other various websites.

I was barely able to make out anything on KeyHole TV myself. I should have just stopped since it kept freezing up...

[Graham Aker]

Too many were using Keyhole. Fucked me up too.

Looks like Nena took out Wang Liu Mei with a new Gundam?
Nope, it's the Drei.


And damn it, Anew. :cry
Of course, this doesn't surprise me but I was hoping that this wouldn't happen. :cry

[Aeon]

Damn it, what happened with Anew? It kind of crapped out on me at that point...

[Masurao]

Looks like Nena took out Wang Liu Mei with a new Gundam?

Well, I'm observing some comments over on animesuki, and

Nena taking out Wang was kinda expected lol, apparently Anew betrays Celestial Being, and Halle makes a comeback.

[blah604]

so did Anew fire @ desu?

[Aeon]

Heh, Regene also got bitch slapped by Ribbons. I thought that was funny. :lmao

[Graham Aker]

Damn it, what happened with Anew? It kind of crapped out on me at that point...
I am an Innovator.

*points gun at Lasse*

so did Anew fire @ desu?
She's holding her hostage in the prev from what I read. And Soma is pointing a gun at her

[Masurao]

Lol, you got trolled Lyle. :lmao

http://i41.tinypic.com/2lc2tuf.jpg

[Aeon]

Lol, you got trolled Lyle. :lmao

http://i41.tinypic.com/2lc2tuf.jpg

Damn it... :uwah

[blah604]

kk ty
PIC AND SUMMARY, KHTV IS CRAP! :D (http://blah604.wordpress.com/2009/02/15/gundam-00-episode-19-season-2/)

[Sirwence]

this did NOT shock me.. well the acts did in there own way? but despite my being a huge Lyle Anew fan. I knew this would happen the second I saw the episode titled after Anew... I still have my hope for them.. *Points to the Ending with her and Lyle together he drops his gun and they embrace*

I will cling to it if i have to! lol ............. :cry

[Aeon]

Yup, KHTV was especially crappy tonight... I had gotten spoiled watching it much clearer on freshverse....

[Sirwence]

And yes it was quite crappy.

[FireHawk64]

i just joined to post on this thread, how good was the episode?and at what time did it air?

[Sirwence]

if you are a fan of Anew ... miserable. I still hold to hope.

[FireHawk64]

if you are a fan of Anew ... miserable. I still hold to hope.

damn, at what time did it air in eastern time? dont want to miss the live next time!!!

[Sirwence]

uh if the quality is the same tonight I will miss it again .. on purpose. just read back .. I am to .. unhappy with this episode, I am clinging to hope now given mostly from the current ending.. thats never usually the best of signs. Who rated this episode a 9.. even non anew fans are giving it 5-6's I mean christ 17 and 18 were 9's 19 was a 5 (thats how I rated it)

[Masurao]

So, apparently Halle appeared briefly in this episode.

[Sirwence]

yep he did at that. *glares at screen hating revive* and we learned that the 00 can create fake worlds.. sigh .. I really am not sure if this is Revives doing or not but I have feeling he has more then ab it to do with it..

[FireHawk64]

yep he did at that. *glares at screen hating revive* and we learned that the 00 can create fake worlds.. sigh .. I really am not sure if this is Revives doing or not but I have feeling he has more then ab it to do with it..

that sounds like that crap the 00 pulled at the end of episode 11.

i need a link for a raw:mad

[Aeon]

So, apparently Halle appeared briefly in this episode.

He did? I wonder where... :hmm

[Sirwence]

Nah nah it isnt' its a damn FAKE WORLD.. they are naked in thoughts surrounded by white.. I knew it had to be the 00's doing but it didnt stop me from wishing it wouldnt be.. "warning: Gundam 00 may induce fake world mind melds, do not take if you will be driving or operating heavy machin....etc"


Maybe its just me but... I should get this off my chest

she didn't point her gun at Lasse until her eyes went 'innovator transmission incoming ' mode , so it does make me think there's was some rather major outside influence that is on going. I don't believe she's been a traitor all along. Call me naive or wrong, We will see in 20-25 ....still its saddening, even having dialogue to herself about who could be the leak etc - from that to "I am an innovator die?* I dont fully buy that at all - but as I said the next episodes will prove me either right or horribly wrong ( pulse Anew and Lyle in the current ending and Her in the OP..)

[FireHawk64]

Nah nah it isnt' its a damn FAKE WORLD.. they are naked in thoughts surrounded by white.. I knew it had to be the 00's doing but it didnt stop me from wishing it wouldnt be.. "warning: Gundam 00 may induce fake world mind melds, do not take if you will be driving or operating heavy machin....etc"


Maybe its just me but... I should get this off my chest

she didn't point her gun at Lasse until her eyes went 'innovator transmission incoming ' mode , so it does make me think there's was some rather major outside influence that is on going. I don't believe she's been a traitor all along. Call me naive or wrong, We will see in 20-25 ....still its saddening, even having dialogue to herself about who could be the leak etc


i've spoiled myself but from the screens i've seen I think it's Revive who is controlling her as he is locked in the ptolemy. anyways i may be wrong.

[Sirwence]

Nah I think you're probably right. Also the only time her eyes have glowed in that manor.. has been when Revive was ... fiddling around a bit to gain intel.

[FireHawk64]

Setsuna becomes an innovator..... lives on forever

[FireHawk64]

there's a raw link on toshokan

[Moon Light]

Saiyaman Raw Link (http://bt.saiyaman.info/download.php?%5BS%5EM%5D%20Mobile%20Suit%20GUNDAM% 2000%202nd%20Season%2019%20HD%20RAW.avi.torrent&info_hash=8b76bca66132e609178e067478741280e9ced0c8 ) and TV-J Raw Link (http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=50694) (1280x720 DivX684) :laugh

[Sirwence]

And moon light beat me to Saiyaman raw lol Oh well. I hope revive dies soon >_>

[FireHawk64]

my eyes are killing me, but the my gundam needs keep me going, were getting close to the point where it wont go on forever :(

[FireHawk64]

Setsuna becomes an innovator..... lives on forever

i seriously believe this, Setsuna as well as Soma were affected when Revive started using Anew to find celestial being,in episode 18. Maybe long exposure to GN particles start to mess around with the brains quantum waves?

[Sirwence]

takes more then QBW to make an innovator. Takes a few nanomachines along with (several) other things

[FireHawk64]

takes more then QBW to make an innovator. Takes a few nanomachines along with (several) other things

meh, they can make fantasy world, they can make anyone into anything.

[Sirwence]

Also the proof t hat Revive is using Anew is pretty obvious.. they demand he takes his helemt off... Lyle sees the eyes and renogizes it.. Then Anews eyes 'glow' in response to Revive.. then thats when it all starts. And 20 is a showdown between revive and .. Lyle and setsuna is out there to?

[FireHawk64]

Also the proof t hat Revive is using Anew is pretty obvious.. they demand he takes his helemt off... Lyle sees the eyes and renogizes it.. Then Anews eyes 'glow' in response to Revive.. then thats when it all starts. And 20 is a showdown between revive and .. Lyle and setsuna is out there to?

just watched the episode. as you said it will be a showdown with Lyle and anew, and i now see where some of you guys don't like the episode.

[FireHawk64]

also the preview for next week leads me to believe that anew doesn't not steal the 00, i think she ends up using the updated version of the Empruss, which has been in the new op for some time now, and is shown as setsuna shooting it down.

[Sirwence]

also the preview for next week leads me to believe that anew doesn't not steal the 00, i think she ends up using the updated version of the Empruss, which has been in the new op for some time now, and is shown as setsuna shooting it down.


from the hair styles it seems its Lyle fighting Revive to my eyes. Also in the op that is Louise in the new Empruss/Empress

[FireHawk64]

from the hair styles it seems its Lyle fighting Revive to my eyes. Also in the op that is Louise in the new Empruss/Empress

i guess im not watching the op hard enough.

[Sirwence]

Who is it?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/Katsuko/anew.png Is it Anew ? or is it Revive? That is the question.

[Saiko]

Who is it?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/Katsuko/anew.png Is it Anew ? or is it Revive? That is the question.

Anew Returner

[Sirwence]

Anew Returner

So if it is in fact Anew (there faces look a bit alike hence my posting it..) what happens next any guesses.. survives? or not? I would hope survives..

[LoneWolfFenrir]

I guess i'll be joining as well, intresting fourms here.

BTW....Anyone notice Anew's eyes during the opening? I'm too lazy to upload the image but look for yourself. And Anew will prolly be in a Gadessa/Garazzo because Lyle's fighting against one in the preview and talking to Anew.

I wonder what will happen....

[Sirwence]

some of the 2ch spoilers say she dies. As they arent ever truly confirmed I ignore them.

But either She lives or she is killed.though I am not sure if thats her in the suit or not.. it appears like setsuna is fighting as well.. And how would she get in the suit ? Honestly I have no idea I am hoping she lives.

[superman_1]

this was a good episode...enjoyed the action a lot... looks like next ep will be lyle vs anew... hope wang liu mei is dead...marina scenes were worthless...saji x louise scene was alright...hallelujah was back until 00 trans am lasted... 00 and soma scenes were awesome... hope that bastard andrei gets killed by her...cant wait for next ep...

[Legend]

The sub is out. This ep is really good Saji knows what he must do, and i wanna see what is going on with Setsuna. The next ep Lockon is fighting Revive you can tell by the hair shape.

[blah604]

All Download links are HERE! (http://blah604.wordpress.com/2009/02/15/gundam-00-episode-19-season-2/)

[Logic]

Pretty good episode. Halle was shown for what 10 seconds but he was epic in every way. He only needed 10 seconds.

OO is hax. Revive lol @ u. Anew i think maybe she has 2 personalities I don't think she was just acting.

[FireHawk64]

I didn't know innovators could make weapons from thin air. LOL ANEW.

on a more serious note.

i think she die's, i hope Feldt doesn't die i <3 her.......

[son_michael]

Anew tries to steal 00 next ep....if ribbons gets 00 its over so im assuming she fails.


Looks like Louise might actually be sane and not suffer the same fate as all the other girls before her? is it possible?



and I dont care about leing mei's death{or w/e her name is} but dammit nene trinity just screwed celestial being!:mad




GOOD episode:thumbs

[FireHawk64]

OK OK, i just watched up to ribbons talks about setsuna changing. i know this is a fansub but still could setsuna become an innovator?. this episode is even better with subs i gave it a 9

[MasterKakuzu]

Lyle is like "Have I been fucking a guy?!"

Damn the Archer looks tight with all the weapons and how Soma controls it. She could have killed Andrei if Allelujah didn't interrupt her.

Seravee looked fucking sick charging at Revive with six beam sabers, he looked General Grievous except with Six blades. Then launches Seraphim to catch up and hung on the escape pod like he was body boarding in space.

00 Raiser should have just killed Healing care instead of disabling her.

I want Ali to come back so he can do some owning.

Mr. Bushido is scheming, I want to see him next episode.

[Host Samurai]

Gundam 00 Raiser is going to do some dues ex machina bullshit and spread all it's "light/skeet/golden shower" over the world and everybody then go hippie.

[Random Member]

So much good things this ep. Drei and Hallelujah appearing again, Rie Kugimiya's evil giggling and Ribbons exercising his pimp hand :awesome

Though Marina and her bullshit almost ruined it for me.


Damn the Archer looks tight with all the weapons and how Soma controls it. She could have killed Andrei if Allelujah didn't interrupt her.

Seravee looked fucking sick charging at Revive with six beam sabers, he looked General Grievous except with Six blades. Then launches Seraphim to catch up and hung on the escape pod like he was body boarding in space


Agreed. Archer and Seravee/Seraphim were awesome this ep. The Cherudim too when it went on the offensive with the shield bits.

[The Drunken Monkey]

I sure wasn't expecting Bushido to be just sitting in the sidelines for once.

All in all a great episode, plenty of Saji x Louise and Andrei getting pwned by Setsuna.

[qks]

good ep

saji has turnt setsuna into a pussy

anew has just signed her death card even though it dont look like shes in controll of her body at all(well it just strikes me that somebodys controlling her) i think lockon may be forced to kill her
have a sneaking feeling wang aint dead yet either

also im VERY suprised nena dont have a upgraded drei knowing bandai and there model kits

[FireHawk64]

good ep

saji has turnt setsuna into a pussy

anew has just signed her death card even though it dont look like shes in controll of her body at all(well it just strikes me that somebodys controlling her) i think lockon may be forced to kill her
have a sneaking feeling wang aint dead yet either

also im VERY suprised nena dont have a upgraded drei knowing bandai and there model kits

Anew death card? i think you mean Lyle signed his death card when he told Anew he loved her. it's Mech anime law.

[Sirwence]

the week wait is going to be a burden , as I want both lyle and anew to survive.. Hell the ending line is Next Episode Anew Returner "Will she return to the place of her birth, Or to the man who lovers her?

Who knows.. Sigh

And I loved the clever op trick.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9128/aneweyechangeintro2yg2.jpg

I couldnt SS it till I had an MKV file though lol

[RAGING BONER]

heh...i always thought that was Tieria(he's a woman now right?).

Damn robots all look the same to me :pek

[Rukia]

heh...i always thought that was Tieria(he's a woman now right?)Yeah, I think so.

Tieria put on a dress and danced with Ribbons a couple of episodes ago. :zaru

[MasterKakuzu]

I loved how Nena was more cynical in one episode compared to Ribbons throughout the season.

Setsuna will become a human variant of 00 Raiser in Trans-am.

[staradderdragoon]

holy shit lasse gets shot?!?!? the "op trick" was only in this episode though. i wonder if they're going to keep it like that. it was a good ep but god marina is so annoying. i cant tell if she's worse than relena....

[Red Zaku]

holy shit lasse gets shot?!?!?

It's 50-50. We heard a gunshot but the scene was a cut-away so we don't know. Someone could have grabbed Anews hand before she pulled the trigger, or someone else could have entered the bridge and shot the gun from her hand.

[staradderdragoon]

i guess. it could be like with the scene last week where we thought marina got shot. damn i wished that happened...i wonder what happened to Klaus. that'd be hilarious if that was the last we saw of him.

I'm really curious as to if Anew was being controlled or just "awakened." That "since the beginning" line has me worried. Hopefully she chooses lyle over a robot...i mean, robots dont feel good in bed...lol.

Other thing im wondering is did wang give CB the location of Veda yet or no? Cause if not, well that just sucks.

[Sirwence]

As for the trick some of us caught and some of us didnt in the opening for 19 and if it will continue ...I think. depending on her choice.. (if lyle is able to help convince her or knock some sense back into her) to stay with them .. and she does or he does so and she...dies ( she better not die that I do not want to happen) I think it might go back to her eyes being there normal color, if she choses the opposite then it will stay.

[son_michael]

It's 50-50. We heard a gunshot but the scene was a cut-away so we don't know. Someone could have grabbed Anews hand before she pulled the trigger, or someone else could have entered the bridge and shot the gun from her hand.

more like Anew shoots the side of the chair or something and then quickly grabs her hostage





i guess. it could be like with the scene last week where we thought marina got shot. damn i wished that happened...i wonder what happened to Klaus. that'd be hilarious if that was the last we saw of him.

I'm really curious as to if Anew was being controlled or just "awakened." That "since the beginning" line has me worried. Hopefully she chooses lyle over a robot...i mean, robots dont feel good in bed...lol.

Other thing im wondering is did wang give CB the location of Veda yet or no? Cause if not, well that just sucks.


they could go 1 of 2 ways with this


1. Anew always knew everything and she actually did fall in love with Lyle

2.Anew is a puppet and doesn't remember anything when her eye's glow



and no wang did not give CB any data...as I said Nena trinity screwed that whole plan up

[Graham Aker]

I'm guessing Anew is really with Ribbons and in order to make her an effective ███, they implanted a fake personality in her then with Wangs help, got her into CB.

Just think Viletta Nu. Anew and Lyles sitch is similar to Viletta and Ohgis.

[FireHawk64]

the even bigger question is.

will the 00 be stolen?

[Nomeru]

God damnit. In the first minute, I'm quite disappointed. Marina needed to die already. Just get rid of Kataron, they dont help really, just keep dieing.

[Crossclowned12]

I doubt 00 will be stolen. We keep hearing how Setsuna is changing, maybe him and 00 are necessary for eachother to work. Any time one of those trippy alternative realities happen is because of Setsuna's emotions, something Innovators seem to lack most of the time.

[BlackSmoke]

I doubt 00 will be stolen. We keep hearing how Setsuna is changing, maybe him and 00 are necessary for eachother to work. Any time one of those trippy alternative realities happen is because of Setsuna's emotions, something Innovators seem to lack most of the time.

Agreed works best when Saji is around too.

[Sirwence]

more like Anew shoots the side of the chair or something and then quickly grabs her hostage








they could go 1 of 2 ways with this


1. Anew always knew everything and she actually did fall in love with Lyle

2.Anew is a puppet and doesn't remember anything when her eye's glow



and no wang did not give CB any data...as I said Nena trinity screwed that whole plan up

Yes those are 2 ways it could go, which do you think of your two theories is right?

I think either way she truly does love Lyle.. And the debate over her living or dying sigh Wish it was time for the episode I truly want her to live I have enough tragedy with this series. it feels so forced now more death more tragedies - I can get enough from reality.. now I agree the series needs some of that and got a lot in season 1 .. and even now in season 2 plenty . The more he adds on to his story like this.. the more weary of it I get, some happiness would be nice.. not SAPPY or happy go luck.. but not ripping people apart killing them endlessly - I dont know its just becoming wearying to me

As for the 00 being stolen.. do we not see Setsuna IN IT? in the preview? Stealing 00 = epic fail (time stamp is episode 19 24:01 check it out) Or wait will they grab it and run with him in it? after hes shown time and again he can dominate any innovator in combat

[Crossclowned12]

I always look at the titles for incoming episodes and that helped shape up why I doubt 00 will be stolen. They all just seem to positive for 00 to be stolen.

Also look at next episode "Anew Return" just sounds like she is coming back. The Anew they know, not the innovator. It just seems the innovator is more of a puppet. Innovators in general seem to be puppets to Ribbons, just look at Regena can't do anything without him seeing it as well. Like you said Sirwence I want some bright moments. Plus that picture looked more like Revive than Renew for me atleast.

[Sirwence]

Cross I am glad I am not the only one being a bit wearied by all this forced tragedy. (ripping people apart for the sake of a story then killing the character if thats what they do in 20 its no more then forced tragedy) And yes at first it looked more like Revive to me also.. But I see Anew there to.. so. I just assume its Anew.. if I am wrong .. well I will gladly be wrong.

[Crossclowned12]

My main reason is the fact that the helmet is purple aren't the innovator helmets purple? I doubt Renew just popped out a suit out of thin air or forced Revive to give up his suit. A-law suits have the purpleish helmets right?

Then there is the fact that the hair looks more like Revive.

[son_michael]

Yes those are 2 ways it could go, which do you think of your two theories is right?

She's a ███, she wanted to explore humanity and was attracted to Lyle. She developed a relationship with Lyle for her own selfish interest but her mission always comes first. Every time her eye's glowed she was receiving instructions or sending information.

I bet she's gonna tell Lyle she's sorry for what she's doing and she loves him but it would never work out between them cause she's not human ect ect


I think either way she truly does love Lyle.. And the debate over her living or dying sigh Wish it was time for the episode I truly want her to live I have enough tragedy with this series. it feels so forced now more death more tragedies - I can get enough from reality.. now I agree the series needs some of that and got a lot in season 1 .. and even now in season 2 plenty . The more he adds on to his story like this.. the more weary of it I get, some happiness would be nice.. not SAPPY or happy go luck.. but not ripping people apart killing them endlessly - I dont know its just becoming wearying to me

I expect her to die.....we cant have 2 happy couples in Gundam......Louise and Saji will be the official couple


Anew IMO is destined to be a sad tragedy.....all her death will do is make Lyle furious against innovators and then probably he will go after them himself and get killed like his brother



As for the 00 being stolen.. do we not see Setsuna IN IT? in the preview? Stealing 00 = epic fail (time stamp is episode 19 24:01 check it out) Or wait will they grab it and run with him in it? after hes shown time and again he can dominate any innovator in combat


yea 00 wont be stolen,Setsuna is connected to it and if Ribbons were to get his hands on it..realistically what could stop him? I dont care if Manequin and all of the federation+katharon rise against ribbons...with 00 he wouldbe unstoppable and setsuna would have no gundam{and at this point setsuna having no gundam is like killing his character since he cant live without it}



so yeah no way setsuna is losing his gundam....plus 0 riser needs a pilot and thats saji's role especially now since he wants to fight

[Crossclowned12]

I really doubt Lyle will also die.

And though Anew might be a tragic character, I think there is also another possibility. Like I said innovators seem to lack true feelings. Sure we have Tiere, but that took Lockon's death. I wouldn't be surprised to see Anew just be the innovator who realizes she is just like a human etc.

[Sirwence]

I really doubt Lyle will also die.

And though Anew might be a tragic character, I think there is also another possibility. Like I said innovators seem to lack true feelings. Sure we have Tiere, but that took Lockon's death. I wouldn't be surprised to see Anew just be the innovator who realizes she is just like a human etc.

Emotionally she probably IS just like a human otherwise they share many many similarities with humans (minus a nanomachine here and there and a VEDA system etc)

Her and Tieria are the Innovators that have shown themselves to be truly other then said issues above and probably a few others really human. I hope you're wrong about the tragic bit (both you and michael, I have enough love tragedy , and well they have already broken the space death ray rule for gundam with having 2 at the same time and using them both. sigh it seems we really know where we all stand. I want Lyle and Anew both alive at the end. (as far as the Anew and or Lyle issue)

[Aeon]

So Ribbons thought Setsuna would be dead by now. I found that to be interesting. :hmm

[FireHawk64]

Any chance we will still see more 00 voodoo magic?

[Crossclowned12]

Emotionally she probably IS just like a human otherwise they share many many similarities with humans (minus a nanomachine here and there and a VEDA system etc)

Her and Tieria are the Innovators that have shown themselves to be truly other then said issues above and probably a few others really human. I hope you're wrong about the tragic bit (both you and michael, I have enough love tragedy , and well they have already broken the space death ray rule for gundam with having 2 at the same time and using them both. sigh it seems we really know where we all stand. I want Lyle and Anew both alive at the end. (as far as the Anew and or Lyle issue)

I know there's a possibility, but I strongly doubt Anew is going to die. The more I look at that pic you posted the more I believe that is Revive. Purple A-law Innovator helmet along with the hair. If anything Lyle could be arguing with Revive about how he is using Anew. If anybody is taking Anew down it's Soma.

[FireHawk64]

So Ribbons thought Setsuna would be dead by now. I found that to be interesting. :hmm

Setsuna is going 00bama, he's changing...... maybe become an innovator?

[Crossclowned12]

If anything we are going to get another 00 moment in which Anew is snapped back, it's become the thing that brings hope where there is none.

[FireHawk64]

I hope Prince Ali reports in for the next episode.

[Sirwence]

If anything we are going to get another 00 moment in which Anew is snapped back, it's become the thing that brings hope where there is none.


agreed the 00 has been the light in the ever growing darkness, the light that no matter how hard the innovators and their dogs in ALAWS try they can not put out.

So maybe it will help in some way.

Also I hope you're correct that anew does not die as that is what I am very much so hoping for Anew to survive this mess alive and intact. Same with Lyle.

[FireHawk64]

now that i've taken a hard look at her, anew is hot, not as hot as Feldt though.

she better not be dead or ill kill anew myself.:oh

[Tempest]

Pretty good episode. I`m glad Saji and Louise finally talked. Even though it`s not 100% fully resolved, we do know that Saji`s resolve to fight has been solidified. Anyone else feel that Setsuna and Saji will become good friends after this?

Gotta say, the whole Anew escapade was pretty damn predictable. It`s kind of implied that Anew has NO control when her eyes turn all Veda-like. In the last episode, I got the vibe that Anew knows she`s being used but can`t do anything about it. I don`t know, it all falls into place and kind of makes this whole situation predictable to me.

[Sirwence]

Predictable yet unpredictable.. how is she getting in a suit to fight.. Marie with Soma's personality being more dominant will not just let her walk away hostage or not I would assume.And what of revive the likely puppet master or instigator? or healing (hilling which ever) And Setsuna Sorties to.. so.. Many questions that can not be answered until 20.. sigh. You'll be pissed if feldt dies and ill be pissed if Anew dies. Id be pissed if either died but more so anew at this point.

[reaperunique]

It was a somewhat predictable that anew would do that at some point.
And I do wonder if Setsuna is going to mutate or something, like become one with 00, that would be funny, imagine how extatic he would be:ho

Looking forward to next episode.

Ow and I lol'd at Grahams one line in the whole episode XD He really has become useless. The only reason he is in the show is to die by the hands of setsuna in one final battle.

[Diceman]

Anew pulled a "Boomer"(see,battlestar galactica)

[Crossclowned12]

I don't think Anew is getting in any suit she has her hands full with Soma who I really doubt will just let her get away.

[寫輪眼]

From the OP it's hinted that Anew will rebel/reveal her identity in the ep.
*Her Eyes*

http://i1.hk/u/attachments/day_090217/20090217_404982a1de03c78ecc8662aKWNS7kvJg.jpg

http://i1.hk/u/attachments/day_090217/20090217_b22b95e2403bed74634cv2lWivpBVuec.jpg

[reaperunique]

eeuh... ok? we already saw the episode so we know that she revealed her identity XD

[Lyenyo]

I think Wang has sent the co-ords or will do just before she dies, hence why Hong-Long jumped on her.

[son_michael]

If anything we are going to get another 00 moment in which Anew is snapped back, it's become the thing that brings hope where there is none.

I fear your going to be dissapointed

[Biolink]

I fear your going to be dissapointed

Yeah pretty much.

I don't know if there is a bigger death flag in the show right now.

[son_michael]

Yeah pretty much.

I don't know if there is a bigger death flag in the show right now.

yeah


well its either her or Louise,im deffinetley going with Anew on this 1.

[kulgan18]

I don't think Anew is getting in any suit she has her hands full with Soma who I really doubt will just let her get away.

Even without reading any spoilers i tell you there will be some kind of suit battle.

Besides soma greatly dissapointed me when she couldnt even kill andrei, so i dont expect her to kill anew.

[Crossclowned12]

Even without reading any spoilers i tell you there will be some kind of suit battle.

Besides soma greatly dissapointed me when she couldnt even kill andrei, so i dont expect her to kill anew.

Yeah a suit battle between Lyle and Revive, I am 99% sure that is Revive. Give myself some room for error.