Parents lose custody of Nazi-named children

[Mael]

HOLLAND TOWNSHIP, N.J. - Three New Jersey siblings whose names have Nazi connotations have been placed in the custody of the state, police said Wednesday.

Holland Township Police Sgt. John Harris said workers from the state Division of Youth and Family Services removed 3-year-old Adolf Hitler Campbell and his younger sisters, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, from their home Tuesday.

Harris said family services did not tell police the reason the children were removed. Agency spokeswoman Kate Bernyk said it does not comment on specific cases.

The children and their parents, Heath and Deborah Campbell, received attention last month when a supermarket bakery refused to put Adolf Hitler Campbell's name on a birthday cake.

I felt like since there was a nice thread about the cake I had to follow up.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28655143/

Note: I feel sorry for the kids being taken away from their parents unwillingly, but...
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fuck yeah. You name your kids offensive things like the retards you two are and the hammer gets dropped on you. Now if we could work on celebrities and the Palins who name their kids non-sensical things.

[Danny Lilithborne]

I hope they get new names.

And the parents gets chemically castrated. Okay, maybe I'm kidding about that... maybe.

[Tatumaru]

"JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell"

I laughed. Alot.

[mystictrunks]

"JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell"


Wow, just wow :laugh

[Gunners]

I wonder if anyone disagrees with the decision made? I personally agree with it, the children have been saved from corruption.

This is why I believe in dictatorship, to a degree anyway. You give idiots freedom they decide to be a prick with it.

[Proxy]

That's just giving your children a messed up life, and for no apparent reason other than sheer stupidity. A name change is definitely in order.

Edit: I also agree, and not only corruption but the backlash they would face. It's good to see the state stepping in and handling it.

[Hikaru-Kaoru]

I agree that giving kids Nazi names is stupid, but taking kids away because the parents gave them Nazi names is even more ridiculous, unless there were other reasons for it.

[House]

Either those parents are just idiots, or they really hated their children.
It's quite funny that it's possible there that parents can give their children such names.

[Mael]

I agree that giving kids Nazi names is stupid, but taking kids away because the parents gave them Nazi names is even more ridiculous, unless there were other reasons for it.

Stupidity begets ignorance which begets hatred. NJ had every right to stop this in its tracks.

[Jackal]

they would have un with highschool :LOS

[Aokiji]

I felt like since there was a nice thread about the cake I had to follow up.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28655143/

Note: I feel sorry for the kids being taken away from their parents unwillingly, but...
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fuck yeah. You name your kids offensive things like the retards you two are and the hammer gets dropped on you. Now if we could work on celebrities and the Palins who name their kids non-sensical things.

Dude, taking someones children for giving them stupid names.......whoever instigated this deserved to get filled with bullets.

I wonder if anyone disagrees with the decision made? I personally agree with it, the children have been saved from corruption.

This is why I believe in dictatorship, to a degree anyway. You give idiots freedom they decide to be a prick with it.

The irony is strong in this one.

Isn't there something called free speech?

That's just giving your children a messed up life, and for no apparent reason other than sheer stupidity. A name change is definitely in order.

Edit: I also agree, and not only corruption but the backlash they would face. It's good to see the state stepping in and handling it.

The fault is more on the morons that would treat someone bad for having the same name woth someone they dislike. "Hey yo name iz Johnny, that's the guy who raped me friend, fuck you"

On the other hand naming your child "Aryan Nation"...........lol. Taking someone's custody is ONLY for very extreme stuff. This one is not going to cut it.

I see dark visions where people will lose custody of their kids for teaching brainwashing them. :(

I agree that giving kids Nazi names is stupid, but taking kids away because the parents gave them Nazi names is even more ridiculous, unless there were other reasons for it.

Respect!

Why not simply ban such names?

[Mael]

Dude, taking someones children for giving them stupid names.......whoever instigated this deserved to get filled with bullets.

The irony is strong in this one.

Isn't there something called free speech?

The fault is more on the morons that would treat someone bad for having the same name woth someone they dislike. "Hey yo name iz Johnny, that's the guy who raped me friend, fuck you"

On the other hand naming your child "Aryan Nation"...........lol. Taking someone's custody is ONLY for very extreme stuff. This one is not going to cut it.

I see dark visions where people will lose custody of their kids for teaching brainwashing them. :(

Respect!

Why not simply ban such names?

Dude...there is no ignorance or lack thereof when it comes to a poor kid with Adolf Hitler in his name. The kid is going to get teased for the rest of his life because of the stupidity of the parents. Parents with this kind of mentality do not deserve kids in the first place. Free speech is nice and all but honestly I'm getting sick of idiots abusing it. Tolerance of abuse of free speech is why we have idiots like Sean Hannity or LaRouche and to me that's just plain heresy. There needs to be some limits like you said and ban those fucking names.

[Darklyre]

The irony is strong in this one.

Isn't there something called free speech?

Why not simply ban such names?

:laugh:laugh:laugh

[Nick Soapdish]

I agree that giving kids Nazi names is stupid, but taking kids away because the parents gave them Nazi names is even more ridiculous, unless there were other reasons for it.

I hope that there were more reasons for it. And beyond all the Nazi paraphernalia that they had in the house as well.

It's evidence of bad taste and a complete lack of judgment, etc. But those few things that I've heard about the family aren't actually grounds to have them taken away. Presumably, the agency has access to more information than a few interviews given to reporters so they may have "real" reasons.

Personally, I think that the parents aren't suited at all, but I don't think that the standard to determine that should be set quite as low as I set it.

[Gray Wolf]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/01/13/2009-01-13_report_child_named_adolf_hitler_removed_.html

A young boy named Adolf Hitler, who attracted national attention when a local supermarket refused to make a birthday cake with his name on it, has been taken away from his parents by authorities, according to a local website.

LehighValleyLive.com reports that Adolf and his sisters, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, 1, and 8-month-old Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie, were removed from their home by New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services.

No reason was given for why the children were removed, however, and Holland Township police chief David Van Gilson told the site they had not received any reports of abuse or negligence.

Back in December, the boy's parents, Heath and Deborah, were outraged when a local ShopRite declined to provide them with cake for Adolf's birthday.

"They're just names, you know," Heath Campbell told the Easton Express-Times in December. "Yeah, they (the Nazis) were bad people back then. But my kids are little. They're not going to grow up like that."

However, Heath reportedly denies the Holocaust and their home is decorated with swastikas.

The parents were to attend a hearing regarding their children on Tuesday, but it was apparently postponed.

I wonder how this will turn out.

[House]

I'm afraid such a thread (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=465601) already exists. :hurr

[LouDAgreat]

So, The kid named "Adolph Hitler" got taken away huh? (not to be cocky...but I was the one that posted the cake article Walking Maelstrom referenced to. :amuse)
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=455898

It might be a good thing for him. Hopefully there's a decent person willing to adopt him, and he'll grow up to punch the spit out of his father for giving him that absurd name.

[Han Solo]

What a load of shit.

Yeah, such a thing warrants an investigation as to whether or not the parents are suitable or not.

But to just go in, take the children away without even giving a reason.

Fucking lol.

[Hikaru-Kaoru]

I hope that there were more reasons for it. And beyond all the Nazi paraphernalia that they had in the house as well.

It's evidence of bad taste and a complete lack of judgment, etc. But those few things that I've heard about the family aren't actually grounds to have them taken away. Presumably, the agency has access to more information than a few interviews given to reporters so they may have "real" reasons.

Personally, I think that the parents aren't suited at all, but I don't think that the standard to determine that should be set quite as low as I set it.

I dont think the parents are suited either, its just taking away a child for his name is just odd, in my country such names can be denied and you'll need to go to court for permission to have those names, and anyone who has been giving a ridiculous name can change it without any problem.
I just wanted to know if there were other reasons than the names in this situation.

[|)/-\\/\/|\|]

If we want to ban every name that corresponds to some mother fucker in history, in the end we'll have all names depleted. This is retarded.

[mystictrunks]

I hope they name their next child "Hansel Supreme White Power Campbell"

[colours]

Aryan Nation


i can tell they gave that one a lot of thought

[Edo]

Isn't this in violation of (enter no of amendment) US constitution?

Just asking. I mean if they went to court with this do they have a chance of winning?

[Jagon Fox]

sure the parents gave the kids sucky names,(which they can change later) but what child protective services did was wrong and an abuse of their authority. first off they must have a valid reason with proper evidence to take the children away, either abuse or neglect they must also inform the parents of why they were being taken away. a highly unpopular/offensive name is no reason to take children away. as long as the kids were healthy and not being neglected or abused then its cps who was in the wrong and they need to start thinking about getting their priorities straight.

[Cirus]

If the parents have done nothing wrong with the kids then they should have their kids returned to them. A government or people can not treat them that way for having their personal beliefs and the naming of their kids. What the government did to them was wrong, and what the store did was not within their rights to refuse service just because of a persons name.

[Cirus]

The kids should be returned back to the parents because they have done nothing wrong so far with them. The government is in the wrong here and they should realize that no matter how bad it makes them look. If the government though can prove the kids were neglected or abused then I don't see a problem but right now the only problem that I see is with the government taking those kids.

[Homey Slice]

First off before going off half cocked maybe do some research about the subject before posting some half brained idiot post.

Second off in this country at least taking ones child for the name you have given them is not legal or possible.

Maybe just maybe it was and is not a good choice in names (my opinion it wasn't) but this is America were freedom of speech and the rights of many are still LAW. Maybe in some European nation these kids could have been taken like they did up in Canada but not here folks.

Also what makes it better to name your kid Latrinia or Shammika or Shawanda but not OK for Aryn. When did we become a nation only tolerant to the African American people living here and no one else. That is the sad state this country has come to, whats good for the blacks is not good for the whites, hmmm me sees reverse discrimination here.

For your viewing pleasure read this:
As taken from MSNBC.com

HOLLAND TOWNSHIP, N.J. - Three New Jersey siblings whose names have Nazi connotations have been placed in the custody of the state, police said Wednesday.

Holland Township Police Sgt. John Harris said workers from the state Division of Youth and Family Services removed 3-year-old Adolf Hitler Campbell and his younger sisters, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, from their home Tuesday.

Harris said family services did not tell police the reason the children were removed. Agency spokeswoman Kate Bernyk said it does not comment on specific cases.

Ummm I call this, END OF SUBJECT!

[Dave]

what? they are just names
and the people who took them away cant even change their names legally, so i don't see how talking them away from their home will do them any better

[Seto Kaiba]

The names were in poor taste, but that is no reason to take the kids. The kids are definitely not headed towards easy lives though, but not much can be done if evidence of abuse can't be found.

Also what makes it better to name your kid Latrinia or Shammika or Shawanda but not OK for Aryn. When did we become a nation only tolerant to the African American people living here and no one else. That is the sad state this country has come to, whats good for the blacks is not good for the whites, hmmm me sees reverse discrimination here.

Sounds like typical white nationalist whining.

[Saufsoldat]

Good thing, hopefully they'll rename the children.

[Red Viking]

I dunno, taking away someone's kids just because they gave them questionable names seems really shady just by itself, even if they named him Adolf Hitler.

If they had evidence that the parents were Neo Nazis and were actively teaching their kids to be racist, it would be one thing. Social Services, however, isn't even giving a reason for the removal. Because of that, the theory that the parents are racist is merely speculation.

[Masaki]

Who let them give these names in the first place?

[hammer]

what the hell is wrong with the name Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell?

well.. no one knows aryan nation cambell either :zaru

[Purgatory]

Whoever agrees with this decision is fucking moron, and an enemy of civil liberties and Constitutional rights. There is no evidence that those parents were mis-treating or even abusing those childrend. They have the right to name their children, but should prepare for severe criticisms. Outright taking them away is bullshit, just recommend they be given different names. We're called America and not Germany for a God Damned reason. :pek

[First Tsurugi]

Namin your kid Aryan Nation is practically abuse anyway, IMO. :zaru

[Saufsoldat]

We're called America and not Germany for a God Damned reason. :pek

Because you have retards who would name their child Adolf Hitler in the first place :zaru

[Purgatory]

Because you have retards who would name their child Adolf Hitler in the first place :zaru

Let those fucking idiots name their kid Adolf Hitler. It'll be their damn fault when their kid grows up to be an arsonist or some bullshit.

[Mael]

Because you have retards who would name their child Adolf Hitler in the first place :zaru

Thank you I was waiting for someone actually German to say something like this.

No Purg...this is clearly a sign of idiotic parenting. A really responsible parent would know what not to name their kids because those kids are going to be berated for the rest of their lives for something they had no power over. The father was raised by racist parents and as naive as he may sound carries that taint. I mean for Christ's sake...he put Hitler in his kid's name. That's retarded so stop the ACLU-crying game because honestly some people in this nation are given too much freedom. This is just a case in point. Taking the kids away might've been harsh but perhaps it's for their own good.

[Tokoyami]

Why don't they take a page from nazi germanies history and put themselves in ovens?

The names themselves were lulzy however. Also yes SOME NAMES SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.

I am sorry but.....come on theres a limit to how far you can go with a name. for instance we would not allow somone to name there kid, nigger mc.chink for instance would we?

In b4 rascist.

[hammer]

wouldnt ti be abuse in the sense they knew some jewish kid would one day beat the shit out of them?

[~M~]

Ah, motherland turning america.

[Mael]

Ah, motherland turning america.

You're thinking Russia. Germans called their land the Vaterland (Fatherland).

[hammer]

Why don't they take a page from nazi germanies history and put themselves in ovens?

The names themselves were lulzy however. Also yes SOME NAMES SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.

I am sorry but.....come on theres a limit to how far you can go with a name. for instance we would not allow somone to name there kid, nigger mc.chink for instance would we?

In b4 rascist.
thats racist D<

[Red Viking]

My question is: Does Social Services have additional evidence besides the names? If they don't, they're really screwing themselves over when those parents go to court over this.

If the parent's can prove Social Services had no evidence justifying a removal besides the name, the court could award them back custody. If they are supremacists, then they'll be supremacists who can, from now on, claim that the government wants to take away their children because they didn't like their beliefs and be vindicated for it.

[Saufsoldat]

Let those fucking idiots name their kid Adolf Hitler. It'll be their damn fault when their kid grows up to be an arsonist or some bullshit.

Aren't you forgetting about someone? Let's see... Who's involved in this besides the parents and the state...?

Oh righty: The children themselves. Would you really approve of their lives being completely shitty just so the parents are taught a lesson?

You're thinking Russia. Germans called their land the Vaterland (Fatherland).

I never got it why it's called motherland in other languages, it's our fathers who fought for it :pek

[Last Shadow]

Thank God the parents lost custody. They'd no idea what they were doing and no idea of the life that they had set for their children at 3.

[Purgatory]

No Purg...this is clearly a sign of idiotic parenting. A really responsible parent would know what not to name their kids because those kids are going to be berated for the rest of their lives for something they had no power over. The father was raised by racist parents and as naive as he may sound carries that taint. I mean for Christ's sake...he put Hitler in his kid's name. That's retarded so stop the ACLU-crying game because honestly some people in this nation are given too much freedom. This is just a case in point. Taking the kids away might've been harsh but perhaps it's for their own good.

Unless you can prove they abused their children in any way, shape, or form of abuse. And don't bring that name bullshit up, because a name is just that - something to be recognized with. Taking the kids away for something so simple it's stupid it's just moronic on their side. If they want fucked up kids, let them have fucked up kids. It's their God Damned fault, let them bear the burden.

[Raiden]

If they want fucked up kids, let them have fucked up kids. It's their God Damned fault, let them bear the burden.

They children weren't taken away as a punishment to the parents, it was to rescue those kids from having a messed up life with rather reckless guardians. In essence, a name means nothing, but do you honestly think that a child named "Adolf Hitler" would have a smooth life? Do you honestly think that when this kid becomes a teen, chicks will want to date him? He'll be the kid that everyone talks about behind his back...not to mention jokes.

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[Seto Kaiba]

They children weren't taken away as a punishment to the parents, it was to rescue those kids from having a messed up life with rather reckless guardians. In essence, a name means nothing, but do you honestly think that a child named "Adolf Hitler" would have a smooth life? Do you honestly think that when this kid becomes a teen, chicks will want to date him? He'll be the kid that everyone talks about behind his back...not to mention jokes.

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I think some kids will do more than just make jokes...

[Saufsoldat]

My question is: Does Social Services have additional evidence besides the names? If they don't, they're really screwing themselves over when those parents go to court over this.

Yes, there was evidence. Although the parents insist that they're not racist, there are obvious contradictions. For example the father claims that he named his son hitler "because he liked the name and because no one else in the world would have that name."

ShopRite, the company that refused to make a birthday cake for hitler said that "the Campbells had similar requests denied at the same store the last two years and said Heath Campbell previously had asked for a swastika to be included in the decoration."

Why would they do that? I guess it's just because the father likes the swastika and nobody else would have one on his birthday cake :zaru

[Purgatory]

They children weren't taken away as a punishment to the parents, it was to rescue those kids from having a messed up life with rather reckless guardians. In essence, a name means nothing, but do you honestly think that a child named "Adolf Hitler" would have a smooth life? Do you honestly think that when this kid becomes a teen, chicks will want to date him? He'll be the kid that everyone talks about behind his back...not to mention jokes.

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Like I said, let the parents bear the burden.

[Red Viking]

Yes, there was evidence. Although the parents insist that they're not racist, there are obvious contradictions. For example the father claims that he named his son hitler "because he liked the name and because no one else in the world would have that name."

ShopRite, the company that refused to make a birthday cake for hitler said that "the Campbells had similar requests denied at the same store the last two years and said Heath Campbell previously had asked for a swastika to be included in the decoration."

Why would they do that? I guess it's just because the father likes the swastika and nobody else would have one on his birthday cake :zaru

They claim they're not racist yet they knew about the connotations?

Wow, these people are idiots.

[Saufsoldat]

Like I said, let the parents bear the burden.

You... don't get it, do you?

How the hell is punishing the parents more important to you than protecting those children?

[Tokoyami]

Ah, motherland turning america.WHAT!?

How dare you compare the glorious mother land to that hive of sickening fascism!?

[Purgatory]

You... don't get it, do you?

How the hell is punishing the parents more important to you than protecting those children?

Because parents these days need to be sculpted into parents that realize that they need common sense. At least make them change the names, but taking them away is too far.

[Tokoyami]

Unless you can prove they abused their children in any way, shape, or form of abuse. And don't bring that name bullshit up, because a name is just that - something to be recognized with.Yes they'll be recognised as evil fucking nazi's and will then be treated like utter shit.

[Saufsoldat]

Because parents these days need to be sculpted into parents that realize that they need common sense. At least make them change the names, but taking them away is too far.

Which seems better to you:

Teach parents a lesson, screw up kids

or

Take away the kids, teach them how to be responsible adults?

[Purgatory]

Which seems better to you:

Teach parents a lesson, screw up kids

or

Take away the kids, teach them how to be responsible adults?

People can learn from their mistakes. Don't have government intervene, let the people in their community deal with it themselves.

[Purgatory]

Are you insane sir?

Yes they'll be recognised as evil fucking nazi's and will then be treated like utter shit.

Like I said before, this is America, not Germany.

[Proxy]

Dude, taking someones children for giving them stupid names.......whoever instigated this deserved to get filled with bullets.



The irony is strong in this one.

Isn't there something called free speech?



The fault is more on the morons that would treat someone bad for having the same name woth someone they dislike. "Hey yo name iz Johnny, that's the guy who raped me friend, fuck you"

On the other hand naming your child "Aryan Nation"...........lol. Taking someone's custody is ONLY for very extreme stuff. This one is not going to cut it.

I see dark visions where people will lose custody of their kids for teaching brainwashing them. :(



Respect!

Why not simply ban such names?

The thing is, in Germany isn't it against the law to name your child Adolf Hitler?

What I have an issue with is that the responsibility of parents is to ensure that their child is out of harm's way. By doing that, it's inviting trouble into their life, regardless if it wasn't the child's decision on the name.

[hammer]

Like I said before, this is America, not Germany.

rright and this is is a triangle thats a square and this is sparta i dont see your point.

[Purgatory]

rright and this is is a triangle thats a square and this is sparta i dont see your point.

Perhaps you're too damned ignorant to see something so obvious.

[Xion]

Naming your children after Nazis and being Neo-Nazists is pretty bad, but not quite illegal.

However, extenuating circumstances might have called into question these peoples' ability to successfully parent. And that is fine with me in this case. :del

[hammer]

Perhaps you're too damned ignorant to see something so obvious.

and pehaps YOUR to ignorant to realize "this is america" is not a argument

[Purgatory]

and pehaps YOUR to ignorant to realize "this is america" is not a argument

If those retards want to name their damned kids after the leader of the Holocaust and his followers, let them. They have a right to do such, even though it's a retarded idea.

[Talon.]

finally the CPS in america did something smart.
change their names.
put them back with their parents.
bcuz no kid deserves foster care.

[hammer]

If those retards want to name their damned kids after the leader of the Holocaust and his followers, let them. They have a right to do such, even though it's a retarded idea.

you should not punish a kid for there parents stupidity

[Fojos]

Why were they allowed to have those names to begin with? And who the heck cares anyway? It's just a name.

Soon Adolf will be banned as well.

[Red]

Fuck this shit, give them their kids back. You just round up the kids for no fucking reason. What kind of government/society/etc does shit like this?

[hammer]

Fuck this shit, give them their kids back. You just round up the kids for no fucking reason. What kind of government/society/etc does shit like this?

thee wa s a privus atical that where the father hinited he was using his children for his own gain

[mystictrunks]

People can learn from their mistakes. Don't have government intervene, let the people in their community deal with it themselves.

:laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh

What planet do you live on? People have been terrible parents for thousands of years, sometimes the best thing to do is to rip the kids away from them.

[Xion]

Will they rename the children though?

That question's been bugging me. It would make things a whole lot more interesting. :awesome

[Purgatory]

you should not punish a kid for there parents stupidity

Punishing the parents, not the kids.

[hammer]

Punishing the parents, not the kids.

you kdidding me even if they are not racist having those names will ruin there social life AND a chance at a job theres no if ands or butts.

[Sarutobi sasuke]

Can't feeling there is more to this than just their names.

[Tokoyami]

Punishing the parents, not the kids.In punishing the parents you are also indirectly punishing the kids.

The problem here is that a third party is involved which is also the focus of the problem. The kids are being linked to prominent nazi figures and rascist propaganda, so if the parents are allowed to keep the kids EVERYONE who hate rasicsts, skinheads, nazi's, ect ect will end up looking at these kids in disgust, possibly beating the kids brains out, rejecting them from certain places, ect all based upon there names. Tell me sir: do you think that would be healthy for a kid to go through when they've done nothing? The parents are at fault and if there stupid enough to name them this I have a feeling they won't be intelligent enough to get the message that society is telling them and i have a feeling that punishments won't do much to a fucktard of that level.

I'd love for the parents to pay and in most cases I might agree that the kids should stay.....but not in this one. If there willing to use there kids to push there views on people then what else are they willing to do to them?

[hammer]

Can't feeling there is more to this than just their names.

thee is dont you rember the cake artical a few months back where the father wanted a swastaka cake for them?

[saprobe]

Well, while it's satisfying to hear the kids were removed I doubt the state will be able to keep them from their parents without more justification. After all, we do have freedom of speech in this country and I'm not sure how you could argue that freedom doesn't extend to naming your own children. I mean, the kids can change their own names when they turn 18.

I just hope these parents wise up and change the poor kids' names before that for their sake.

[mystictrunks]

With names like those these kids have zero chance integrating into the real world outside the skinhead circle.

School? Ever minority and non-racist will almost certainly dislike them from day one and it it will be hard to overcome. Kids and teachers.

Work? If you have to choose between Aryan Nation and Tiffany you're going to pick Tiffany, hell employers would pick a Tiffanya over Aryan Nation.

It's not that there's a problem with odd names, there's a problem with names that will cause the children to be ostracized by 98% of society.

[Talon.]

:quite
what I want to know is WHY?
why name your kids that? why do that in full awareness that it may ruin their lives forever? why go so far as to name your child adolf hitler or aryan nation??
i want to know whatwent on in these peoples heads when they gave them those names.

[Judge Gabranth]

Dumbass parents.Hope they change their names.

[spaZ]

I know the names are wrong and all that but its still just a god damn name. But taking the kids over the name is pretty much fucking retarded and highly illegal.

[Aldrick]

It would be fucking hilarious if those kids ended up having black friends.

[spikes31]

Let those fucking idiots name their kid Adolf Hitler. It'll be their damn fault when their kid grows up to be an arsonist or some bullshit.

how does that make sense, then the kids would be a danger to society and could hurt other people. these people should be forced to change the kids names and be forced to reflect on the fact that their own actions shape their children's lives. and if they don't, when these kids turn 15 they should be able to beat their parents for being so stupid. when you have a child you should be thinking of their future, not that adolf hitler is a great name because nobody in the world has it. There's a good reason why nobody has the name adolf hitler!:facepalm

[Forbidden Truth]

Poor kids. Their lives are affected because of their dumb fuck parents.

[Casyle]

I can't support this, and I'm ashamed this happened in my country.

This is an ugly slope we're approaching if we start letting the government take kids away from families because of the names they were given and 'cause of their beliefs. I don't support Neo Nazis, but regardless they do have the right to have kids, and to name 'em whatever they want. As far as I know there's no such thing as an illegal name in the US.

[Anemone]

In my opinion this is what happens when you name your children stupid things and try to turn them into Nazis just to get some stupid attention from the press. :noworry

[Red]

thee wa s a privus atical that where the father hinited he was using his children for his own gain
Ive read this several times and I still don't know what you're trying to say.

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Ive read this several times and I still don't know what you're trying to say.

read the other threads of them thats up before you say its not right.

[Adonis]

"JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell"

:rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

[dreams lie]

I wish my middle name was Aryan Nation.

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its not even cleaver how they did it ti should be aryan(said aran or however you spell it)nathen

[xpeed]

Wow......just because of their name, their kids get taken away. :zaru

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Wow......just because of their name, their kids get taken away. :zaru

there parents forced them to eat swastaka cakes for there bdays

[Homey Slice]

Sounds like typical white nationalist whining.

For that comment you are moron. You do not even know me.

Believe it or not, American by birth German by blood. Do I agree with Adolf Hitler and what he done, hell no. But to label me with out knowing me, makes you just plane ignorant.

My point was how in the hell can any one give there child a name that is in poor taste, BUT in this county no one, I mean NO ONE will ever take children away because of what there parents named them. This is not a dictatorship nor a communist country ran by a bunch of fascist or communist morons.

IF you people would have read the article, instead of assuming, NO ONE knows why they were taken and child services in most states will not divulge that information since they are minors.

See in this country we have rights and those rights are protected under the laws of this country. We have a right to free speech and to decide what is best for our children as long as it does not mentally or physically harm said children and a name is just well a damn name people.

FYI people but racist beliefs in this country are NOT a crime just what they are, a belief and nothing more it is only when those beliefs are acted upon and bring violence and harm to others, does it become a crime. Can any one show me in the laws of his country were a name can be considered a crime? Nope didn't think so!

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For that comment you are moron. You do not even know me.

Believe it or not, American by birth German by blood. Do I agree with Adolf Hitler and what he done, hell no. But to label me with out knowing me, makes you just plane ignorant.

My point was how in the hell can any one give there child a name that is in poor taste, BUT in this county no one, I mean NO ONE will ever take children away because of what there parents named them. This is not a dictatorship nor a communist country ran by a bunch of fascist or communist morons.

IF you people would have read the article, instead of assuming, NO ONE knows why they were taken and child services in most states will not divulge that information since they are minors.

See in this country we have rights and those rights are protected under the laws of this country. We have a right to free speech and to decide what is best for our children as long as it does not mentally or physically harm said children and a name is just well a damn name people.

FYI people but racist beliefs in this country are NOT a crime just what they are, a belief and nothing more it is only when those beliefs are acted upon and bring violence and harm to others, does it become a crime. Can any one show me in the laws of his country were a name can be considered a crime? Nope didn't think so!

we did read the artical we read many DIFFRENT articals about the SAME family where the father openly used his childrens name for legal pursuit

[Platinum]

"JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell"

Just rolls off the tongue doesn't it :kaga?

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They shoulda been more cleaver like how i know a teacher(whos black) changed his nme to avery T blackmen guess what the t is :LOS

[Purgatory]

you kdidding me even if they are not racist having those names will ruin there social life AND a chance at a job theres no if ands or butts.

You shouldn't deny people applications based on names solely.

In punishing the parents you are also indirectly punishing the kids.

The problem here is that a third party is involved which is also the focus of the problem. The kids are being linked to prominent nazi figures and rascist propaganda, so if the parents are allowed to keep the kids EVERYONE who hate rasicsts, skinheads, nazi's, ect ect will end up looking at these kids in disgust, possibly beating the kids brains out, rejecting them from certain places, ect all based upon there names. Tell me sir: do you think that would be healthy for a kid to go through when they've done nothing? The parents are at fault and if there stupid enough to name them this I have a feeling they won't be intelligent enough to get the message that society is telling them and i have a feeling that punishments won't do much to a fucktard of that level.

I'd love for the parents to pay and in most cases I might agree that the kids should stay.....but not in this one. If there willing to use there kids to push there views on people then what else are they willing to do to them?

Hell, if Westboro Baptists can get away with brainwashing their kids, why not those couple? If our government is fucked up on that level, something tells us we're in deep shit. They don't need to do meaningless crap or to probe itself into an American family's life.

how does that make sense, then the kids would be a danger to society and could hurt other people. these people should be forced to change the kids names and be forced to reflect on the fact that their own actions shape their children's lives. and if they don't, when these kids turn 15 they should be able to beat their parents for being so stupid. when you have a child you should be thinking of their future, not that adolf hitler is a great name because nobody in the world has it. There's a good reason why nobody has the name adolf hitler!:facepalm

We don't know how they're going to be treated, so they can't just take them away if no signs of abuse are there. They just need to know if they or their kids do something stupid, they're going to have shame on their heads.

[Diceman]

You shouldn't deny people applications based on names solely.
Guess,what?It happens,regardless of the ideal.

However, extenuating circumstances might have called into question these peoples' ability to successfully parent. And that is fine with me in this case. :del
QFT.

[Purgatory]

Guess,what?It happens,regardless of the ideal.

Good thing we have a thing called suing in this country. :zaru

[Kira U. Masaki]

im pretty sure they lost the kids for some other reason, the nazi name is there to get people's attention

[Diceman]

Good thing we have a thing called suing in this country. :zaru

If you have a lawyer and evidence:zaru

[Purgatory]

If you have a lawyer and evidence:zaru

Any idiot with half a brain could find both. :zaru

[Amanomurakumo]

If those kids were to grow up and become criminals, most likely society and their peers would be to blame for their actions, moreso than their parents.

[Wolfarus]

They (the kids) were perfectly capable of changing their own names once they reached the age of 18. These were not names they were "stuck" with for their whole lives.

If the names were the ONLY reason they were taken away from their parents, then this is a serious violation of the parents rights. Im not saying i agree with the names they were given (of course they're going to catch crap from it growing up) but i dont agree with them being taken away from their parents because of it (if that really was the only reason)

[Seto Kaiba]

For that comment you are moron. You do not even know me.

Believe it or not, American by birth German by blood. Do I agree with Adolf Hitler and what he done, hell no. But to label me with out knowing me, makes you just plane ignorant.

My point was how in the hell can any one give there child a name that is in poor taste, BUT in this county no one, I mean NO ONE will ever take children away because of what there parents named them. This is not a dictatorship nor a communist country ran by a bunch of fascist or communist morons.

IF you people would have read the article, instead of assuming, NO ONE knows why they were taken and child services in most states will not divulge that information since they are minors.

See in this country we have rights and those rights are protected under the laws of this country. We have a right to free speech and to decide what is best for our children as long as it does not mentally or physically harm said children and a name is just well a damn name people.

FYI people but racist beliefs in this country are NOT a crime just what they are, a belief and nothing more it is only when those beliefs are acted upon and bring violence and harm to others, does it become a crime. Can any one show me in the laws of his country were a name can be considered a crime? Nope didn't think so!

Whether or not you are one or not I don't care, but your previous post was much like that of typical white nationalist whining. Also, since I didn't address it previously, you can't even compare a name like *Whatever*-ifa or -isha to being named after an inherently racist organization or one of the worst mass murderers in history.

[killinspree42099]

it seems those parents need to grow up a little more

[Nick Soapdish]

I dunno, taking away someone's kids just because they gave them questionable names seems really shady just by itself, even if they named him Adolf Hitler.

If they had evidence that the parents were Neo Nazis and were actively teaching their kids to be racist, it would be one thing. Social Services, however, isn't even giving a reason for the removal. Because of that, the theory that the parents are racist is merely speculation.

It's not just speculation. There is plenty of evidence that the parents are racist. The previous articles about the cake mentioned the preponderance of swastikas and German combat knives around the house, the swastika tattoo on the father and the boots that they bragged had been worn by a SS officer. Also, the father says that he believes that blacks and whites should be kept separate.

However, he also says that he's not racist so it's not conclusive. :P

And we don't know why the children were taken. Social Services didn't give a reason because in most states it's illegal for them to comment on the case. (Or maybe not. I don't know that New Jersey is one of those states.) We don't know much more about the family other than that both parents are unemployed. The father used to be a gas station attendant (or something; I can't remember exactly), but can't do that because of his bad back. The mother used to waitress but she has emphysema so she can't do that.

And there's an update on the story.

It's not solely due to the names. (http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf/2009/01/update_toddler_called_adolf_hi.html)

They still won't confirm whether or not the children have been taken, but they made a general statement that it's only done when the children are in imminent danger. So if they were taken, the agency thinks that it has something else to justify it.

It's probably a pretty good bet.

[1mmortal 1tachi]

Great.

Now the state can take custody of these kids and rename them.

Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln and Rodham Clinton.

:dupe

[Danny Lilithborne]

snip idiocy
If you think that naming a kid Shammika comes anywhere close to naming a kid Adolf Hitler, you are a racist fucktard.

[Saufsoldat]

Good thing we have a thing called suing in this country. :zaru

I'd like to see you try that :lmao

You can't force anyone to give you a job. They can just say that they found someone else who fits better, they don't have to give you a reason and you can't prove that they rejected you because of your name. Try again.

[Goofy Titan]

If the kids were taken out due to the retarded parents being a danger to the kids: I'm fine with that.

If the kids were taken out for having some of the most awkward/best? names ever: Bullshit.

If I want to name my kid Tittyfuck _____, I have every right to name him/her Tittyfuck.

[ButtholeSurfer]

I'll name my kid Josef Stalin, and we'll see if CPS takes him away.

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It's not just speculation. There is plenty of evidence that the parents are racist. The previous articles about the cake mentioned the preponderance of swastikas and German combat knives around the house, the swastika tattoo on the father and the boots that they bragged had been worn by a SS officer. Also, the father says that he believes that blacks and whites should be kept separate.

However, he also says that he's not racist so it's not conclusive. :P

And we don't know why the children were taken. Social Services didn't give a reason because in most states it's illegal for them to comment on the case. (Or maybe not. I don't know that New Jersey is one of those states.) We don't know much more about the family other than that both parents are unemployed. The father used to be a gas station attendant (or something; I can't remember exactly), but can't do that because of his bad back. The mother used to waitress but she has emphysema so she can't do that.

And there's an update on the story.

It's not solely due to the names. (http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf/2009/01/update_toddler_called_adolf_hi.html)

They still won't confirm whether or not the children have been taken, but they made a general statement that it's only done when the children are in imminent danger. So if they were taken, the agency thinks that it has something else to justify it.

It's probably a pretty good bet.


both parents are unemployed


both parents are unemployed

good enough for me

edit: god that mothers but ugly

[Jagon Fox]

there may have been a perfectly good reason for all we know, the kids could have been abused or neglected. but on the other hand child protective services have been known for playing dirty tricks in the past because they disagreed with this belief or that belief or even on suspicions and false allegations. why don't they go after people like the phelps or other religious bigots kids? thats not a healthy mindset but you don't see cps forming a lynch mob.

satanic panic anyone?

[ButtholeSurfer]

edit: god that mothers butt ugly

good enough for me.

[1mmortal 1tachi]

However bad these parents are they're infinitely better than the guy who sold his daughter for meat, beer and 16$k.

I say they should be able to keep their kids.

No one took $16k beer and meat boy's daughter away from him. Therefore no one should take Hitler Aryan Nation Campbell and his 2 cohorts from their parents, neither.

[Choclateislove]

I remember reading the news about how the bakery refused to write the child's name on the cake in the CR forums... but wow, i feel bad for the kid.

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so did the parents even try to get new jobs?

[Purgatory]

I'd like to see you try that :lmao

You can't force anyone to give you a job. They can just say that they found someone else who fits better, they don't have to give you a reason and you can't prove that they rejected you because of your name. Try again.

If they have enough qualifications, or have better qualifications then the others wanting the job and get denied for such a stupid thing like a name, that's like saying you're denying a fag because he likes a little man meat in his mouth, but is overly qualified and able to handle the job.

[Jagon Fox]

However bad these parents are they're infinitely better than the guy who sold his daughter for meat, beer and 16$k.

I say they should be able to keep their kids.

No one took $16k beer and meat boy's daughter away from him. Therefore no one should take Hitler Aryan Nation Campbell and his 2 cohorts from their parents, neither.

yeah thats true

[Lee1993]

was it really illegal to name them those things
i would lol if they were jewish
not to be racist but it would be ironic

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If they have enough qualifications, or have better qualifications then the others wanting the job and get denied for such a stupid thing like a name, that's like saying you're denying a fag because he likes a little man meat in his mouth, but is overly qualified and able to handle the job.

but how the hell can you prove that without illegally getting that info

and neither parent has a job at the same time so they can not support them

[64palms]

Aryan Nation for a name is pretty lame..but man...I still don't know if this is right..
I mean, what do the children think of losing their parents like this?

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Aryan Nation for a name is pretty lame..but man...I still don't know if this is right..
I mean, what do the children think of losing their parents like this?

tere actuly too oung to realize whats gonig on two are infents the third is like 2.

[Keile]

First off before going off half cocked maybe do some research about the subject before posting some half brained idiot post.

Second off in this country at least taking ones child for the name you have given them is not legal or possible.

Maybe just maybe it was and is not a good choice in names (my opinion it wasn't) but this is America were freedom of speech and the rights of many are still LAW. Maybe in some European nation these kids could have been taken like they did up in Canada but not here folks.

Also what makes it better to name your kid Latrinia or Shammika or Shawanda but not OK for Aryn. When did we become a nation only tolerant to the African American people living here and no one else. That is the sad state this country has come to, whats good for the blacks is not good for the whites, hmmm me sees reverse discrimination here.

For your viewing pleasure read this:
As taken from MSNBC.com



Ummm I call this, END OF SUBJECT!

First of all, I don't know where you're going with this African-American tangent but none of your examples are real African names and none of them reference some genocidal murderer or racist hate group and/or any combination of the two. Naming your child "Hong" or "Tommy" or "Shamika" or "Jermaine" because you believe in cool names that don't really have any relevance to any sort of raucous violence has very little to do with naming your child, " HeHatesNiggersAndChinksAllTheTime Johnson AryanNation Stevie J".

[Purgatory]

but how the hell can you prove that without illegally getting that info

and neither parent has a job at the same time so they can not support them

You don't need illegal info to know that they're being rejected because of a retarded concept.

As long as they can still support the kids as of now, what's the problem?

[hammer]

You don't need illegal info to know that they're being rejected because of a retarded concept.

As long as they can still support the kids as of now, what's the problem?

if they can at this point there is noproblem

however it may be quite obivus its there name theres no proof to say other wise

also its abvius if they still get the job there pretty much screwed if there a lawyer docter etc even if there not racist/anti semetic

[Kusogitsune]

This reminds me of that story about those parents in Japan back in the 70's or 80's who got in trouble from their government for trying to name their son "Akuma". But all they did was make the parents give the kid a different name.

if they can at this point there is noproblem

however it may be quite obivus its there name theres no proof to say other wise

also its abvius if they still get the job there pretty much screwed if there a lawyer docter etc even if there not racist/anti semetic

They could always change their name before then. People do those things, you know. Or they could just not mention their full middle name. Lots of people with multiple middle names only put down the first one when they write their names on documents and stuff.

[hammer]

This reminds me of that story about those parents in Japan back in the 70's or 80's who got in trouble from their government for trying to name their son "Akuma". But all they did was make the parents give the kid a different name.

was akuma a name outside of street fighters??

and dont these people live in holland

[saprobe]

was akuma a name outside of street fighters??

and dont these people live in holland

It means "demon" in Japanese or so D.Grayman leads me to believe.

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It means "demon" in Japanese or so D.Grayman leads me to believe.

i thought demon was oni, oh well atleast they child wsnt taken awayin this case. even thought it seemed harash i like the concept the japan did

[dummy plug]

nazis beware! :kukuku

[hammer]

This reminds me of that story about those parents in Japan back in the 70's or 80's who got in trouble from their government for trying to name their son "Akuma". But all they did was make the parents give the kid a different name.



They could always change their name before then. People do those things, you know. Or they could just not mention their full middle name. Lots of people with multiple middle names only put down the first one when they write their names on documents and stuff.

im fu aware but they shouldnt have to go threw all that troble