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Freija
09-12-2008, 06:08 PM
I was talking about the continuation of HxH
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 06:09 PM
razor is a better character than feitan imo
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:10 PM
Hisoka, Killua, Zeno, Ging, Feitan, Razor, Phinx, Shizuku, Gon, Danchou.
Favourites, in no particular order
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 06:11 PM
i like all of those except for shizuku
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:11 PM
Why dislike Shizuku, she's cool.
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 06:12 PM
i guess
ubogin was a great character though
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:13 PM
Yeah, I excluded him cause he was dead.
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 06:15 PM
fucking kurapica
killing ubogin
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 06:15 PM
Hisoka, Killua, Zeno, Ging, Feitan, Razor, Phinx, Shizuku, Gon, Danchou.
Favourites, in no particular order
SHALNARK WHERE?!
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:15 PM
Oh shit, how could I forget Kurapica in there :argh
As for Shalnark, I like him, but not in my favourite list.
Jicksy
09-12-2008, 06:21 PM
no machi either? =/
morau and illumi would have to be in my list
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:28 PM
Oh yeah, forgot about Machi in the list too :argh
Mattaru
09-12-2008, 06:28 PM
Favourites:
Hisoka
Shoot
Leorio
Used to be on my list:
Nobunaga
Kurapika
There's something rather special about Shoot <3
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 06:30 PM
Pokkuru bitches
Above Ging level.
Hisoka
09-12-2008, 06:31 PM
In order:
Hisoka
Killua
Feitan
Meruem
Nef/pitou
Illumi
Silva
Netero
Machi
Kuroro
Silva
Kaito
and many more ...
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:38 PM
Pokkuru bitches
Above Ging level.
I'm incidentally reading the part where he's chopped for food.
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 06:40 PM
I'm incidentally reading the part where he would have killed the ant Shizuku had trouble with.
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:42 PM
Really ? Which chapter ?
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 06:43 PM
192.
Fucking Zazan cheated.
Jicksy
09-12-2008, 06:43 PM
pokkuru? whos that again :sweatdrop
feitan is cool but their are cooler characters
Aside coolness, I do think Feitan is the most powerful of the GR after Kuroro. This can already be deduced from the chapter where they fight the ants. That's raw nen-power (combined with a very strong hatsu).
There could be other factors of importance for once place in the pickorder of the GR too, such as intelligence...where I think Shalnark is the second in line after Kuroro.
In order:
Hisoka
Killua
Feitan
Meruem
Nef/pitou
Illumi
Silva
Netero
Machi
Kuroro
Silva
Kaito
and many more ...
Ooookkk...
Seems a pretty mixed bag, but I guess it depends what the context of the 'order' is.
As for 'most bishouiest Bishis', that would be (in order):
- Pitou
- Kalluto
- Kurapica
And you still have Killua and the fag-caterpillar Poofu...but though they have a certain 'cuteness', they miss the ambiguity of the first three characters. I mean, cute or not, there was never any doubt that Killua was a boy, contrary to, say, Kurapica.
(As for Pitou...for a male she can't look more feminine than that! :P )
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 06:44 PM
pokkuru? whos that again :sweatdrop
I could kill you for making this comment.
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:44 PM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3434/hxh19815gb9.png
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 06:44 PM
pokkuru is SHIT
why do we obsess about fodder?
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:46 PM
Oh, Killua is obsessed with that loser for some reason.
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 06:46 PM
Pokkuru is AWESOME
He's like the Barney of HxH
He's like the awesomeness the series never had
He's like above Ging level, who is above Danchou and Feitan level
Haters, fuck off :mad
Jicksy
09-12-2008, 06:47 PM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3434/hxh19815gb9.png
who underestimates kaito :pek
i most certainly do not :del
seriously though who's pokkuro again... which chaps he in, remind me :LOS
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 06:48 PM
He's like the Barney of HxH
and barney sucks
He's like the awesomeness the series never had
the series never had it because he's not fucking awesome
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 06:49 PM
and barney sucks
This is proof you're just ignorant.
the series never had it because he's not fucking awesome
http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hxh19004hy6.png
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:50 PM
Kaito knows he's coming, screaming for them to get away in good time, they don't listen he turns around and tells them to GTFO Nefelpitou sees an opening and then speedblitz, it was not that Kaito couldn't handle the speed, he used an opening, showed very clearly...Notice his eye is in a frame very focused at the moment Kaito turns around.http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7059/hxh19807rd0.png
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6722/hxh19809wz0.png
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7871/hxh19810tn0.png
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1570/hxh19811rv4.png
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 06:51 PM
he would have been blitzed either way imo
Jicksy
09-12-2008, 06:52 PM
possibly, but you never know what he might have done in return before being so :zaru
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:53 PM
So that is why on that page it clearly shows both him and Nefel get in a stance at the same time and speed to show they have equal ground.
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 06:54 PM
well maybe but i think nef >>> kaito by far, so heh.
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 06:54 PM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Goku_Saiyan/hxh190-04.png
Awesome just entered this thread
:pek
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:56 PM
well maybe but i think nef >>> kaito by far, so heh.
seen no proofs of that besides the amount of aura.
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 06:56 PM
more like epic fail just entered this thread
Jicksy
09-12-2008, 06:56 PM
:oh now i remember who he is... his nen was cool, but other than that :noworry
Freija
09-12-2008, 06:57 PM
Yeah, yeah, I still say that the instant kill hunter is at that powerlevel.
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 06:58 PM
more like epic fail just entered this thread
This is a dupe!
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 06:58 PM
seen no proofs of that besides the amount of aura.
nef beat a one-armed kaito with no injuries of any kind
it's not a stretch to assume nef can beat full health kaito
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 06:59 PM
nef beat a one-armed kaito with no injuries of any kind
it's not a stretch to assume nef can beat full health kaito
Have you not seen the bruises?
Jicksy
09-12-2008, 06:59 PM
seen no proofs of that besides the amount of aura.
which brings in morau's argument against killua again about chance n certainty
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 07:00 PM
actually no i didnt lol
i guess it's closer than i think
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 07:02 PM
Hisoka
check your PM.
Hisoka
09-12-2008, 07:02 PM
Ooookkk...
Seems a pretty mixed bag, but I guess it depends what the context of the 'order' is.
yeah it is mixed since its about my personal favourites which can be because of many reasons such as character design, their personality up to hatsu XD
and about Kaito stuff, I am kinda leaning towards Freija now, I forgot that part that killua says that, nef mgiht have been a monster but she isnt the type to get even scratches on her that easily, and bare in mind Kaito lost a hand too ...
go figure!
Freija
09-12-2008, 07:12 PM
nef beat a one-armed kaito with no injuries of any kind
it's not a stretch to assume nef can beat full health kaito
Didn't I own this argument a few pages ago already ?
Look with your eyes.
http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000199/15.jpg
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 07:13 PM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Goku_Saiyan/hxh190-04.png
Above scan was nullified by this awesome scan.
Jicksy
09-12-2008, 07:19 PM
this has to be my 2nd fave page in HxH http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000191/08.jpg
Hisoka
09-12-2008, 07:19 PM
lols Pokkuro vs Kaito
who shall win this? :LOS
I think i shouldnt have asked that :lmao
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 07:19 PM
stop posting fail scans killua
Freija
09-12-2008, 07:20 PM
Kaito would swallow him alive
also Hisoka you would you be so kind and give me your msn :pek
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 07:23 PM
Pokkuru casually rapes ants Shizuku needed to use hax to beat. That is true fucking story.
Wustenrot
09-12-2008, 07:23 PM
lol their is no way you are serious
Freija
09-12-2008, 07:24 PM
He is.......
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 07:26 PM
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x165/Goku_Saiyan/hxh190-10.png
Proven in canon.
who underestimates kaito
i most certainly do not l
seriously though who's pokkuro again... which chaps he in, remind me
He's the guy (hunter) that gets eaten and chewed up by the ants. He first appeared in the hunters exam, and in the anime, he was one of the 7 people succeeding in becoming Hunter (the whole final group did, except Killua).
nef beat a one-armed kaito with no injuries of any kind
it's not a stretch to assume nef can beat full health kaito
She did get injuries, even from the fight with a one-armed Kaito.
But in the long run, most likely, yes. She would have beat him, but not pwnd him, though.
Kaito knows he's coming, screaming for them to get away in good time, they don't listen he turns around and tells them to GTFO Nefelpitou sees an opening and then speedblitz, it was not that Kaito couldn't handle the speed, he used an opening, showed very clearly...Notice his eye is in a frame very focused at the moment Kaito turns around.http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7059/hxh19807rd0.png
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6722/hxh19809wz0.png
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7871/hxh19810tn0.png
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1570/hxh19811rv4.png
I concur.
While, in the end, it's reasonable to assume Pitou would still be victorious in the long run, she would have had a much tougher fight (and Kaito might have been able to escape or damage her enough), if it weren't for the distraction the two boys posed to him.
Let's face it; an arm off is no 'mere fleshwound' to quote a Monty-Python scene. :laugh
It's actually a huge disadvantage, even without considering the continious loss of blood, etc. If he had been alone, he wouldn't have to had his attention focused on the safety of the kids, and there is little doubt he would have given the kitty a lot more trouble.
Still - If he decided to fight her all the way...even with two arms, I wouldn't go as far as claiming he could have won, unless he got *very* lucky. All in all, I think Pitou still outclasses Kaito.
In fact, I think she outclasses about every hunter we know of, with the possible exeption of Netero and Ging. Who else might have a chance? ...well, maybe the two main Zaoldeyck assassins and Kuroro, and possibly Hisoka. But that's about it, come to think of it.
Of course, we can't assume we know every hunter or elite-strong nen user in the hxh world, but of those we DO know, it seems only a handful has a chance against the royal guards (and their King).
The more I think about it, the more I think Netero is outclassed by the king in the same manner as Kaito was against Pitou. Ofcourse, Netero has both arms (still), and came pretty prepared...but unless he uses some trick and/or a very malicious hatsu (his Hyakushiki Kannon isn't a hatsu), I don't see how he can win, in the long run.
Jicksy
09-12-2008, 07:27 PM
Pokkuru casually rapes ants Shizuku needed to use hax to beat. That is true fucking story.
i dont hate the guy but he aint exactly top class either... especially since he was hiding in a pile of bones :pek
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 07:28 PM
i dont hate the guy but he aint exactly top class either... especially since he was hiding in a pile of bones :pek
Which brings me to my second point
FUCK YOU NEF
GON MY MAN; FUCK THAT CROSSDRESSING WHOREFACE UP
Freija
09-12-2008, 07:29 PM
Kaito was trained personally by Ging, he's called the silent hunter, he reacted way better to one of the RG's than anyone we've seen so far...
i dont hate the guy but he aint exactly top class either... especially since he was hiding in a pile of bones :pek
LOL.smile-big
Yeah, he certainly wasn't top-tier.:P
Probably more like a good average nen-using Hunter. It seems he would have been able to deal with the spider-ant and all the lower-than-captain kind of ants, though. Unfortunately, he got stung.
As for hiding in a pile of bones...well, considering he was in the nest of ants that clearly out-classed him (especially Pitou), it was probably the smartest thing to do. If it weren't for Pitous' hightened senses, he might have been able to get away with it.
The bitch! :mad
Cute bitch, though...:P:nod
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 07:43 PM
I SAY KILL NEFELFAGGY
Freija
09-12-2008, 07:46 PM
NOooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOO Don't!
I SAY KILL NEFELFAGGY
I would rather say: rape her! smile-big
She ain't faggy, btw...you're mistaking her for Poofu. Now, THAT's a butterfly-faggot! I mean...maggot! :amuse
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 07:49 PM
I would rather say: rape her! smile-big
She ain't faggy, btw...you're mistaking her for Poofu. Now, THAT's a butterfly-faggot! I mean...maggot! :amuse
For killing Pokkuru that bitchfuck can rot in hell
JANKEN GUUUU
Jicksy
09-12-2008, 07:52 PM
LOL.smile-big
Yeah, he certainly wasn't top-tier.:P
Probably more like a good average nen-using Hunter. It seems he would have been able to deal with the spider-ant and all the lower-than-captain kind of ants, though. Unfortunately, he got stung.
As for hiding in a pile of bones...well, considering he was in the nest of ants that clearly out-classed him (especially Pitou), it was probably the smartest thing to do. If it weren't for Pitous' hightened senses, he might have been able to get away with it.
The bitch! :mad
Cute bitch, though...:P:nod
lol he would definitely been able to take on captain ants.
pitou needs to die :laugh gon is just the person for the job... gon's too gentlemanly for rape though =/
hisoka on the other hand :zaru
Freija
09-12-2008, 07:52 PM
For killing Pokkuru that bitchfuck can rot in hell
JANKEN GUUUU
Saisho wa gu, JAN, KEN, GU!!!!!!!
Hunter x One Piece
09-12-2008, 08:18 PM
I fucking love this manga.
Freija
09-12-2008, 08:19 PM
Who doesn't ?
Hibari Kyoya
09-12-2008, 08:20 PM
Me i dont love it
Freija
09-12-2008, 08:21 PM
But you're gay, that explains it all.
Hibari Kyoya
09-12-2008, 08:26 PM
im about as gay as hisoka is :LOS
Freija
09-12-2008, 08:30 PM
That's fucking gay :omg
Susano-o
09-12-2008, 08:32 PM
:lmao :lmao
Susano-o
09-12-2008, 08:32 PM
just double posting to say good night
originally the intent to repwhore but I'm out :lmao
story of my life
bubai sweethearts
Hibari Kyoya
09-12-2008, 08:33 PM
o shi- the red cock leader is here :uwah save me peter
and Hisoka he be tapping that smexy female can't remember her name now :gar
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 08:34 PM
Hisoka's just waiting for Gon to grow up
Freija
09-12-2008, 08:35 PM
Susano-O <333333333
masterriku
09-12-2008, 09:32 PM
That's fucking gay :omg
:huh I thought hisoka was a bi-pedo :huh
Freija
09-12-2008, 09:33 PM
Not really, he wants Machi... he's just interested in Gon's fighting potential so he can kill him in the future when he's stronger.
Roxass
09-12-2008, 09:34 PM
Not really, he wants Machi...
We don't know if that interest is real or not.
Jicksy
09-12-2008, 09:36 PM
well his advances seem real enough :hehee
Freija
09-12-2008, 09:37 PM
We don't know if that interest is real or not.
well his advances seem real enough :hehee
He asked straight out if she wanted to date him...
Hibari Kyoya
09-12-2008, 09:38 PM
Yeah and shes seen him naked :hehee
KLoWn
09-12-2008, 09:38 PM
He asked straight out if she wanted to date him...
Didn't he just ask if she wanted to have dinner with him?
Roxass
09-12-2008, 09:38 PM
Maybe he was just messing with her?
Freija
09-12-2008, 09:39 PM
Yeah and shes seen him naked :hehee
Totally.
Didn't he just ask if she wanted to have dinner with him?
Sounds like a date too me, and then at the talk when they were watching the jyounen user.
hgfdsahjkl
09-12-2008, 09:40 PM
hisoka doesnt care about gender
he does what he wants
Hibari Kyoya
09-12-2008, 09:40 PM
Do you lot tihnk that Hisoka is on the same level as Feitan and that other strong dude in the Gen ryodan whats his face can't even remember now :uwah not Kuro :pek
Roxass
09-12-2008, 09:41 PM
Yeah Feitan and Hisoka are around the same level imo.
hgfdsahjkl
09-12-2008, 09:42 PM
lol
hisoka rapes Feitan
unless you think Feitan is kuroro level
Jon Snow
09-12-2008, 09:43 PM
Feitan rapes Hisoka no joke.
Roxass
09-12-2008, 09:43 PM
Feitan rapes Hisoka no joke.
We have seen neither go all out.
Baseless fucking assumptions.
Hibari Kyoya
09-12-2008, 09:43 PM
Whats the other strong dude called he looks kinda normal :gar
hgfdsahjkl
09-12-2008, 09:44 PM
yeah as pokoko guy (i dont remember his name )is the strongest
Jicksy
09-12-2008, 09:47 PM
Do you lot tihnk that Hisoka is on the same level as Feitan and that other strong dude in the Gen ryodan whats his face can't even remember now :uwah not Kuro :pek
u mean phinx?
hisoka = feitan until more proof arrives :pek
but in my opinion hisoka eats lil boys alive :gar
Hibari Kyoya
09-12-2008, 09:48 PM
Yeah Phinx thats his name!
hgfdsahjkl
09-12-2008, 09:49 PM
nope feitan is the strongest not counting kuroro - hisoka and ubo
Hisoka
09-12-2008, 09:52 PM
Hisoka would rape every single one of the GR, easy
yeah Hisokatard is here :pek
hgfdsahjkl
09-12-2008, 10:20 PM
Hisoka would rape every single one of the GR, easy
yeah Hisokatard is here :pek
that is the truth
it doesnt have anything with being Hisokatard :pek
Jicksy
09-12-2008, 10:25 PM
^ yes it does :LOS
although i can see where your coming from with that :gar
Tachikoma
09-12-2008, 10:58 PM
Feitan rapes Hisoka no joke.
:mad :mad
Night guys and Nico :3
Ennoea
09-12-2008, 11:03 PM
Bungee Gum v the sun, I don't know Feitan is a toughie, Hisoka still has kept most of his power underwraps tho so god knows how powerful he really is:wha
Danchou
09-12-2008, 11:09 PM
Hisoka can't beat Feitans Pain Packer and Rising Sun with what he's shown so far.
By powerscaling he should be pretty powerful, but by feats Feitan would beat him.
Honestly, Feitan is one of the most broken people in HxH.
Ennoea
09-12-2008, 11:15 PM
Tho if Hisoka is able to destroy his armour then Feitans fucked.
Eldritch
09-12-2008, 11:18 PM
Feitan can't beat Hisoka
Hisoka will defeat the king :LOS
Danchou
09-12-2008, 11:21 PM
I'm pretty sure that the armor is supposed to be pretty damn durable in order to withstand the heat of Rising Sun.
Not to mention that I don't see people doing anything but dying once Rising Sun is activated. Zazan, who was very durable, couldn't even move due to the intense heat of Rising Sun and got completely scorched the moment the hatsu was executed.
hgfdsahjkl
09-12-2008, 11:27 PM
well imagin Bungee Gum attached all over your body
feitan strongest point is his speed hisoka could just grap him and its the end
notice the sun needs you to be beaten to activate it
i bet hisoka will remove his head before that
seriously Bungee Gum is one hell of a move
Danchou
09-12-2008, 11:35 PM
At this point, I don't see Hisoka beating Feitan with his showings as the latter has been more impressive.
We've seen very little of his power so far though, so I think there's more to him than what we've seen. He has to be if he wants to live up to his hype as his selfproclaimed title of the strongest.
Eldritch
09-13-2008, 12:10 AM
Time to re-watch some HXH :del
Been ages since I got in touch with the Exam arc
uchiha-alia
09-13-2008, 05:45 AM
Feitan is seriously broken, his ability theoretically gives him a chance to beat pretty much anyone who isnt ALOT stronger than him. Whenever we put hisoka in a fight, its wrong, hisoka is a fcuking beast but we dont know exactly how much of one he is, we havent seen him go all out but all things indicate that he is in the top tier and is confident of even fighting the insanely strong kuroro. bungee gum in effectiveness is so good its almost unfair- so both sides have very good hatsu, however- feitan's has a requirement, while hisoka can bust out a bungee gum, or plenty, whenever he wants. Feitans speed is obviously one of his greatest strengths, and obviously its pretty insane, we have yet to see hisokas speed when going all out but im going to ASSUME thats hes around the same speed (and people would say- even faster). So- bungee gum would be the first and easy way for hisoka to counter the speed, and if he goes serious, he can do multiple and pull feitan to him whenever he needs.
now this is where the fight reaches the 'if' point, if hisoka just plain beats feitan up, then feitan could then- later on, pull out a pain packer (and if hisoka knows about pain packer, which he probably does, he wont do this), if feitan is damaged alot and uses pain packer, its hard to see how hisoka will survive it, however, when hisoka has the upper hand (when feitan is bungee gum'ed, which is think hisoka, with his skill, can accomplish), hisoka needs to go for a one-hit kill, like slicing his head off, or something like that, this way, the fight will be over and hisoka will have won.
also let me point out once again that we dont know the extent of power of both of these, and also, it seems like feitan has more abilities from the way ryodan spoke when he used pain packer.
:huh I thought hisoka was a bi-pedo :huh
You were thinking right. Though it sounds a bit better if you say he's bi-shotacon. :P
Not really, he wants Machi... he's just interested in Gon's fighting potential so he can kill him in the future when he's stronger.
*cough*
Yeah, I've seen that excuse before; it's probably because some would consider Hisoka a bit less cool, if he was into lil boys too. But I think one should respect the character of Hisoka as portrayed by Togashi, and not try to warp ones' own 'heroification' around it. As for Machi: hence the 'bi'.
Sure, Hisoka has a 'fightacon' complex too, but the 'only interested in Gon to fight' is just...crap. For instance, that doesn't explain AT ALL the fact that he was checking out the bums of Killua and Gon. If a 28 year old guy checks out the asses of little boys, there really isn't all that much to be said, except he must have got at least *some* shotacon tendencies.
People should deal with it. :)
We have seen neither go all out.
Baseless fucking assumptions.
True, pretty baseless. The whole thread about it is, actually, because there's hardly any attempt to substantiate the claims. Just saying all those one-liners about who will pwn who, without any reasons given, is just meaningless one-liner-chit-chat only meant to provoke, not an invitation to an intelligible debate about it.
u mean phinx?
hisoka = feitan until more proof arrives :pek
but in my opinion hisoka eats lil boys alive :gar
I agree with your last part, for the reasons given above.
Hisoka would rape every single one of the GR, easy
yeah Hisokatard is here :pek
Well, at least you admit it. :P
Hisoka can't beat Feitans Pain Packer and Rising Sun with what he's shown so far.
By powerscaling he should be pretty powerful, but by feats Feitan would beat him.
Honestly, Feitan is one of the most broken people in HxH.
As far as we've actually seen what both are capable of, currently one would have to come to the conclusion Feitan would probably win the fight. Hisoka has shown great speed in his fights at the celestial tower, but nothing compared to Feitans. Hisokas' bungee-gum nen is a pretty neat thing, but on itself it's not really a...how should I say this...'killer application' towards top-nen users (he used it to beat Kastro in the celestial arc with it, but that one wasn't all that strong neither, at least, not like the GR).
The moment Feitan uses his hatsu, Hisoka is screwed. The only way for Hisoka to win, is to be able to kill Feitan (chop of his head, for instance) BEFORE there is enough damage for Feitan to activate his pain packer. Another way could be Hisoka's got another hatsu...but we didn't see that as yet, so that is mere speculation.
It's not impossible for Hisoka to win, but as far as we've seen now (without a new hatsu), I would give him only a 2/5 chance to win against Feitan. (Based on the *current* knowledge of their fighting skills we know of!:oh)
Jon Snow
09-13-2008, 05:55 AM
I HIGHLY doubt Hisoka knows of Feitan's abilities. It's not like they tell eachother. Phinx tells Karuto something like this when they said they were splitting up: "You probably have techniques you don't want us to know about too, right?"
Not only that, but Hisoka is rather new in the crew isn't he? And Feitan hasn't really fought a lot of strong people during the course of HxH as we know it.
Not to mention Feitan says he's getting rusty and has finally found someone good to practice on (referring to Zazan)
Freija
09-13-2008, 06:18 AM
I HIGHLY doubt Hisoka knows of Feitan's abilities. It's not like they tell eachother. Phinx tells Karuto something like this when they said they were splitting up: "You probably have techniques you don't want us to know about too, right?"
Not only that, but Hisoka is rather new in the crew isn't he? And Feitan hasn't really fought a lot of strong people during the course of HxH as we know it.
Not to mention Feitan says he's getting rusty and has finally found someone good to practice on (referring to Zazan)
Hisoka has already proclaimed he doesn't know Feitan's abilities.
Jon Snow
09-13-2008, 06:30 AM
Oh, you mean to Kurapika?
Freija
09-13-2008, 06:32 AM
Yeah, it was stated as a sidenote that Hisoka didn't know their abilities, and he only learned Shizuku's later.
Jon Snow
09-13-2008, 06:34 AM
I thought he said he knew 6 or 7 out of those abilities. I don't remember Feitan ever being mentioned.
Feitan is seriously broken, his ability theoretically gives him a chance to beat pretty much anyone who isnt ALOT stronger than him. Whenever we put hisoka in a fight, its wrong, hisoka is a fcuking beast but we dont know exactly how much of one he is, we havent seen him go all out but all things indicate that he is in the top tier and is confident of even fighting the insanely strong kuroro. bungee gum in effectiveness is so good its almost unfair- so both sides have very good hatsu, however- Feitan's has a requirement, while hisoka can bust out a bungee gum, or plenty, whenever he wants. Feitans speed is obviously one of his greatest strengths, and obviously its pretty insane, we have yet to see hisokas speed when going all out but im going to ASSUME thats hes around the same speed (and people would say- even faster). So- bungee gum would be the first and easy way for hisoka to counter the speed, and if he goes serious, he can do multiple and pull feitan to him whenever he needs.
now this is where the fight reaches the 'if' point, if hisoka just plain beats feitan up, then feitan could then- later on, pull out a pain packer (and if hisoka knows about pain packer, which he probably does, he wont do this), if feitan is damaged alot and uses pain packer, its hard to see how hisoka will survive it, however, when hisoka has the upper hand (when feitan is bungee gum'ed, which is think hisoka, with his skill, can accomplish), hisoka needs to go for a one-hit kill, like slicing his head off, or something like that, this way, the fight will be over and hisoka will have won.
also let me point out once again that we dont know the extent of power of both of these, and also, it seems like feitan has more abilities from the way ryodan spoke when he used pain packer.
While I have the impression you reverse the chances of winning in favor of Hisoka, I can agree with a lot you say.
Except for the speed, maybe. In the anime, when he was fighting in the celestial tower (against Kastro or Gon, I don't remember), Wing says something like "This is Hisoka's true speed"...and for sure, it was damn fast, but still nothing compared to what has been shown of Feitans' speed when they fight the ants. There, he was simply blurring and so fast he only left afterimages (I think Kalluto even made a mention of it). I think he's faster than Hisoka...at least, considering what we've seen thusfar speed-wise from both.
Also, his bungee-gum is great and all that, but it has shown to have a weakness already. When Gon got attached, Wing (and Killua - and Gon too, actually) all came to the realization the only thing to do was attack him straight on.
Now, with Gon, this wasn't really a problem for Hisoka. With Feitan, however, he might really be pressed to defend himself the whole time. He lost both arms to Kastro (a bit because he was cocky and wanted to show of, granted)...imagine what Feitan, skilled in killing and maiming, could do. And even IF Hisoka would be able to beat him up, that's just the dangerous part for him, because then Feitan can use his devastating hatsu. And let's face it, Hisoka's bungee-gum is completely useless once pain packer is activated; what is he gonna do; shield himself from the heat with his bungee-gum nen?
Sphinx ordered all other members that were there (ant arc) to get the hell away of Feitan, when he saw Feitan activate his hatsu, so that means they all didn't stand a chance. In turn, that means Feitans' hatsu is completely devastating, and unless Hisoka has another Hatsu, there is no way for him to defend against it.
So, yeah, we're both in agreement about one thing: if Hisoka wants to win against Feitan, he has to kill him *before* he can actually use his hatsu. Not impossible, but not easy neither. He certainly will have his hands full, far more so than with Kastro. When not considering a new hatsu or other indeterminable variables, and purely focusing on what we know of their current nen-abilities, I would think Feitan has the upper hand.
Then again, we all know nen-ability isn't everything, as Togashi has shown many times. Hisoka is pretty tricky, after all, if he's able to lure Feitan in (falsely showing an opening, for instance) so he makes a mistake, Hisoka might be able to give a one-stroke death-blow to finish Feitan off in time. Hisoka IS more sly and deviously clever the Feitan, I believe...Feitan already made a mistake with the queenish-ant, after all, when he thought he could finish her off, but got screwed over because he let his guard a bit down (not using nen for defense). That shows to me, Feitan is a bit overconfident, and not careful enough, which might be used by Hisoka.
Thus, there are a few questions:
1)Does Hisoka know everything about the ability (hatsu) of Feitan?
2)Does he have another hatsu?
3)Can he draw in Feitan long enough to give a killing blow BEFORE Feitan can use his hatsu (related to the first question)?
Depending on the answers, I give Hisoka a 2/5 to 4/5 chance. It's less than 1/5 if Feitan manages to activate his hatsu, though.
Freija
09-13-2008, 06:39 AM
I thought he said he knew 6 or 7 out of those abilities. I don't remember Feitan ever being mentioned.
He was mentioned out of those he didn't know of, if I remember right.
Kira U. Masaki
09-13-2008, 06:41 AM
wow how did it get to conversation about hisoka and feitan, did some new chapters come out that i missed, and to hisoka's credit, he was trying to score with the chick from the ryodan but she shot him down
Freija
09-13-2008, 06:41 AM
It was slightly sad that he got.
He was mentioned out of those he didn't know of, if I remember right.
Anyone has a link to it?
I too seem to remember Hisoka said he didn't know all the abilities of all the members, but I forgot of whom and even if he mentions any details.
If it's true he doesn't know anything about Feitans' hatsu, he might actually be one of the worst fighters against him, due to his tendency to 'play' with his adversaries. For instance, he didn't really need to lose both arms against Kastro, it was just something he did to show of and play with Kastro a bit, like a cat would with a mouse. If he tried the same with Feitan, it would hugely increase the risk of Feitan being able to use Pain Packer. What Hisoka needs is a fast, clean kill, after all.
Mattaru
09-13-2008, 07:09 AM
HxH Battledome never really works out.
If we consider what Kurapika's Sensei taught him, in a battle of nen, superior aura/abilities =/= victory.
You must consider location, condition, emotion [no, not "Bloodlusted"] and the target's will to win. [Demonstrated by Xeno vs Kuroro]
Also, consider the chart Bisuke's chart that she showed Killua:
This demonstrates what I'm talking about best:
http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000210/03.jpg
As such, all of these fights could go either way unless there is really a big power difference.
For Hisoka vs Feitan, we are told Hisoka's abilities aren't exactly amazing.
He is crafty enough to substantiate for his relatively weak hatsu however, so I think the fight will be dependant on the environment.
Ahhh something came to mind.
Remember the Genei Ryodan Strength Ranking? [for arm wrestling?]
1. Ubogin
2. Phinx
3. Hisoka
4. Fraklin
5. Feitan
:oh Hmmm. I think that was it.
HxH Battledome never really works out.
If we consider what Kurapika's Sensei taught him, in a battle of nen, superior aura/abilities =/= victory.
You must consider location, condition, emotion [no, not "Bloodlusted"] and the target's will to win. [Demonstrated by Xeno vs Kuroro]
Also, consider the chart Bisuke's chart that she showed Killua:
This demonstrates what I'm talking about best:
http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000210/03.jpg
As such, all of these fights could go either way unless there is really a big power difference.
For Hisoka vs Feitan, we are told Hisoka's abilities aren't exactly amazing.
He is crafty enough to substantiate for his relatively weak hatsu however, so I think the fight will be dependent on the environment.
True, one is never sure of an outcome of a fight, unless the difference in nen is too vast. I think we can all agree that isn't the case between Hisoka and Feitan.
In fact, almost no discussion about whatever of hxh is final, except if it's literally mentioned in the canon. :amuse That's why I prefer to speak in 'likelihoods'; what is more likely, who is more likely to win? etc. It's difficult as it is, without trying to make a finality of it. That's why I'm talking in percentages, and with conditional variables. For instance, I'm presuming both to be at their max nen. I actually presume everything else to be equal for both of them, exept their own skills and nen (as shown in the manga/anime as yet).
It leaves open the final verdict, of course, but one has to draw a line somewhere: it's impossible, after all, to know whether Feitan or Hisoka would be in their best condition when meeting eachother. I'm mostly assuming people here are intelligent enough (or know enough about hxh) to comprehend how the system works in hxh fights.
That said, I think THE determining factor for Hisoka to win or loose in this fight - more so than condition, luck, environment, etc. - is the question if he knows about Feitans hatsu. If he does/did figure it out before he fights Feitan, I actually think his chances are 3-4/5 (about 60-80%, thus). Because, let's face it, he's pretty damn smart, and if he knows he must have a clean kill on Feitan, he'll find a way. We know Hisoka is very analytical when fighting, and once he discovers the weaknesses of his adversary (like with Kaito, and actually Kurapica too, in the anime), they're pretty much finished. He's very able to adapt his fighting strategies, as we've seen.
So I would say his victory or defeat is for the most part dependent on his knowledge of the abilities of Feitan, when they should meet to fight.
Mattaru
09-13-2008, 07:49 AM
True, one is never sure of an outcome of a fight, unless the difference in nen is too vast. I think we can all agree that isn't the case between Hisoka and Feitan.
In fact, almost no discussion about whatever of hxh is final, except if it's literally mentioned in the canon. :amuse That's why I prefer to speak in 'likelihoods'; what is more likely, who is more likely to win? etc. It's difficult as it is, without trying to make a finality of it. That's why I'm talking in percentages, and with conditional variables. For instance, I'm presuming both to be at their max nen. I actually presume everything else to be equal for both of them, exept their own skills and nen (as shown in the manga/anime as yet).
It leaves open the final verdict, of course, but one has to draw a line somewhere: it's impossible, after all, to know whether Feitan or Hisoka would be in their best condition when meeting eachother. I'm mostly assuming people here are intelligent enough (or know enough about hxh) to comprehend how the system works in hxh fights.
True that, I guess it's the only fair way to speculate the fights. At least there isn't any battledome terminology employed here. I'd be crying :rotfl
That said, I think THE determining factor for Hisoka to win or loose in this fight - more so than condition, luck, environment, etc. - is the question if he knows about Feitans hatsu. If he does/did figure it out before he fights Feitan, I actually think his chances are 3-4/5 (about 60-80%, thus). Because, let's face it, he's pretty damn smart, and if he knows he must have a clean kill on Feitan, he'll find a way. We know Hisoka is very analytical when fighting, and once he discovers the weaknesses of his adversary (like with Kaito, and actually Kurapica too, in the anime), they're pretty much finished. He's very able to adapt his fighting strategies, as we've seen.
So I would say his victory or defeat is for the most part dependent on his knowledge of the abilities of Feitan, when they should meet to fight.
Feitan isn't an unripe fruit. He's ripe, Hisoka has no interest in Ripe fruit :awesome. Therefore, it'll be a quick, fast kill if he can manage it.
I just remembered though, that Rising Sun was only one of Feitan's Pain Packer abilities. I wonder what his other ones are :awesome
Hisoka knows about the majority of the Genei Ryodan's abilities I'd presume, that's what the information trade with Kurapika was for. I can't remember what they explicitly said though, if anyone would care to dig up a scan.
I think it was for half of their members, all the old-timers and not the new Ryodans.
:amazed~
Freija
09-13-2008, 08:15 AM
HxH Battledome never really works out.
If we consider what Kurapika's Sensei taught him, in a battle of nen, superior aura/abilities =/= victory.
You must consider location, condition, emotion [no, not "Bloodlusted"] and the target's will to win. [Demonstrated by Xeno vs Kuroro]
Also, consider the chart Bisuke's chart that she showed Killua:
This demonstrates what I'm talking about best:
http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000210/03.jpg
As such, all of these fights could go either way unless there is really a big power difference.
For Hisoka vs Feitan, we are told Hisoka's abilities aren't exactly amazing.
He is crafty enough to substantiate for his relatively weak hatsu however, so I think the fight will be dependant on the environment.
Ahhh something came to mind.
Remember the Genei Ryodan Strength Ranking? [for arm wrestling?]
1. Ubogin
2. Phinx
3. Hisoka
4. Fraklin
5. Feitan
:oh Hmmm. I think that was it.
Not to burst your bubble but Hisoka's hatsu is extremely powerful, just not flashy...
It's also been stated he uses 100% of transformation for it.
Hisoka
09-13-2008, 08:28 AM
Feitan isn't an unripe fruit. He's ripe, Hisoka has no interest in Ripe fruit :awesome. Therefore, it'll be a quick, fast kill if he can manage it.
I just remembered though, that Rising Sun was only one of Feitan's Pain Packer abilities. I wonder what his other ones are :awesome
Couldnt agree more! he has no interest for him fighting wise, and lets not forget he almost figured Biskue's power level, from one look. even though she was hiding it, so if feitan had the potential, he would be planning a way to fight him instead of kurroro. =D
Freija
09-13-2008, 08:52 AM
I doubt fighting Feitan hasn't crossed Hisokas mind, it's rather that Kuroro is stronger thus his target.
Hibari Kyoya
09-13-2008, 09:13 AM
I think it would be a good fight though tbh.
Mattaru
09-13-2008, 10:00 AM
Not to burst your bubble but Hisoka's hatsu is extremely powerful, just not flashy...
It's also been stated he uses 100% of transformation for it.
That doesn't make it powerful :oh
Hisoka's Hatsu isn't remarkable; it is his use of it that makes him dangerous.
Deceitful Texture
Bungee Gum
Neither are 'offensive' 'damaging' abilities as such.
Extremely powerful: No, but rightly used, dangerous.
Someone mentioned that in the manga. Lemme rack my brains...
Freija
09-13-2008, 10:18 AM
People look down on his ability because it doesn't cause damage nor is very flashy unlike many others abilities, but imagine what he can do with it, almost limitless possibilites and as he's shown he can use it with one finger which was enough to send Gon which at the moment knew nen and could push several tons, flying straight to his fist.
So yeah, that does make it powerful.
uchiha-alia
09-13-2008, 11:09 AM
I dont think Hisoka's ability is one that anyone should be able to look down on. First of all, Hisoka is extremely skilled, and is probably good enough to be able to attach his bungee gum onto pretty much anyone when he is fully serious. The immediate effects of this are- at first the opponent might not know that he has bungee gum attached onto him, and hisoka can just pull him towards him and slice his head off, or at least get a clean hit at the right moment. Secondly, if the opponent KNOWS about the bungee gum, then he will have to attack head on (as that is the 'weakness' of bungee gum), in doing so, someone like Hisoka can easily trap the opponent, either facing him dead on with an attack of his own, or throwing the opponent off course with the bungee gum (he can do that), or pretending to expose an oppening and hitting the opponent when he goes for it, either way, when hisoka has his bungee gum on you, hes pretty much taken the upper hand in the direct fight.
Another way to utilise bungee gum is if hisoka attached it onto more than one body part, imagine attaching it to an opponents hands and feet- he has full control of their body, with this sort of advantage, i dont see many opponents getting out of this. After attaching one bungee gum, when hisoka lures the opponent in, then with his attacks he can attach multiple gums and make use of this ability.
Bungee gum is extremely useful in its properties in that it can be used in more tha njust these ways. It can reflect basically any projectile that is thrown at Hisoka (like Razor's full power dodgeball which was pretty damn strong), so that immediately helps when fighting long range enemies. Hisoka can also wrap bungee gum around a part of his body or his whole body to make use of it in even more ways.
You see that this ability is extrmely helpful and its versatility is formidable aswell as its use in battle- well thats not it, when you consider that bungee gum can attach onto ANYTHING, a whole new world of possibilities opends up when you think about it- props. In an environment, many things will be laying around, thats basically a given, with bungee gum hisoka can take use of them all- either hurtling them at opponents as weapons, or even setting them up in strategic positions.
As you can see, with bungee gum, the possibilities are endless and it certainly suits a powerful and deceptive character liek hisoka and doesnt let him down, certainly no-one can look down on it, its an awesome ability.
/hisoka fan
Freija
09-13-2008, 11:10 AM
Yeah... I won't read that until tonight when I'm more awake.
uchiha-alia
09-13-2008, 11:11 AM
lol it had to be said :awesome
Danchou
09-13-2008, 01:36 PM
We all know that Hisoka is powerful, but it's a deception to state that what he's shown so far in his fights would be enough to beat Feitan. Feitan's got, without a doubt, one of the most broken and powerful hatsu's in the entire hxhverse. Feitan's ability allows him to beat anyone whose attacks don't kill him in one hit, but do hurt him enough to use Rising Sun.
As for Hisoka. The strength of Bungee Gum and Dokkiri Texture lies in it's versatility and complexity. It's hard to see through and counter in a fight. Irregardless, I'm hardpressed to believe he can beat Feitan with it, before Feitan gets the chance to use Pain Packer. He uses blunt force trauma to damage his opponents. That puts him at a great disadvantage here.
Even moreso since the Genei Ryodan members know about his Bungee Gum and acknowledge it's strength. Whereas he doesn't know about the abilities of each member and only has a limited understanding of the ones he does.
His Bungee Gum and Dokkiri Texture can only take him so far against certain nenusers. The opponents he has used it on in a fight have hardly been impressive.
Tbh, I'm not even sure that it would be enough to do in someone like Zazan. Since even if he can attach Bungee Gum, due to the hardness and durability of his body he can pretty much tank whatever Hisoka throws at him. I'd like to hear other people's opinion on this, since maybe I'm leaving something out.
Anyway, nobody is looking down on his abilities, it's only that if you compare them to others they come of a bit short. I'm pretty sure he'll have more to show for when he goes all out though.
LOL. Uchiha - you seem to be a bit touchy about the subject 'Hisoka' :wink
That said, I like your posts; they're thoughtful, interesting, and hxh related...and they go a bit in depth into the matters, contrary to all those one-liner posts I see, lately. Needles to say; far from finding them too long, I rather like these kind of posts. I even tried to rep you, but it seems I need to do more 'spreading' before I can give some to you. :(
I dont think Hisoka's ability is one that anyone should be able to look down on. First of all, Hisoka is extremely skilled, and is probably good enough to be able to attach his bungee gum onto pretty much anyone when he is fully serious. The immediate effects of this are- at first the opponent might not know that he has bungee gum attached onto him, and hisoka can just pull him towards him and slice his head off, or at least get a clean hit at the right moment. Secondly, if the opponent KNOWS about the bungee gum, then he will have to attack head on (as that is the 'weakness' of bungee gum),
No-one was looking down on his ability, but objectively speaking, while very useful, it's not the most devastating-offensive hatsu we've seen, now, is it? But maybe 'weakness' was the wrong word I used; I only meant it's not really something that kills or blocks an enemy directly. It doesn't even prohibit the adversary of counterattacking, since the general conclusion in the celestial tower arc was that the only viable option left (once attached) was to attack straight on. If that hadn't been a viable option in response to his bungee-gum, I doubt Wing, Kllua and Gon would all have come to the same conclusion.
in doing so, someone like Hisoka can easily trap the opponent, either facing him dead on with an attack of his own, or throwing the opponent off course with the bungee gum (he can do that), or pretending to expose an oppening and hitting the opponent when he goes for it, either way, when hisoka has his bungee gum on you, hes pretty much taken the upper hand in the direct fight.
Another way to utilise bungee gum is if hisoka attached it onto more than one body part, imagine attaching it to an opponents hands and feet- he has full control of their body, with this sort of advantage, i dont see many opponents getting out of this. After attaching one bungee gum, when hisoka lures the opponent in, then with his attacks he can attach multiple gums and make use of this ability.
Bungee gum is extremely useful in its properties in that it can be used in more tha njust these ways. It can reflect basically any projectile that is thrown at Hisoka (like Razor's full power dodgeball which was pretty damn strong), so that immediately helps when fighting long range enemies. Hisoka can also wrap bungee gum around a part of his body or his whole body to make use of it in even more ways.
You see that this ability is extrmely helpful and its versatility is formidable aswell as its use in battle- well thats not it, when you consider that bungee gum can attach onto ANYTHING, a whole new world of possibilities opends up when you think about it- props. In an environment, many things will be laying around, thats basically a given, with bungee gum hisoka can take use of them all- either hurtling them at opponents as weapons, or even setting them up in strategic positions.
As you can see, with bungee gum, the possibilities are endless and it certainly suits a powerful and deceptive character liek hisoka and doesnt let him down, certainly no-one can look down on it, its an awesome ability.
/hisoka fan
Yes, you've mentioned all the posibilities Hisoka has or could do, thanks to bungee-gum, and while it opens up a lot of possibilities for Hisoka to use...it doesn't make it a killer-application on itself. Using props: yes, he already did that with smacking a stone in the face of Gon (pretty funny, that :laugh). But would such a thing work against a top-notch nen-fighter (and killer) as Feitan? I doubt it. Yes, he could draw in Gon, right on his fist, even...but comparing Feitan with Gon (certainly at that moment) is a bit far-fetched; Gon has along way to go yet. I seriously doubt Hisoka could so simply pull Feitan right onto his fist... And, when we look at his fight with Hisoka, Gon literally said in the anime AFTER he successfully blocked a punch by Hisoka (where Hisoka pulled him with his bungee-gum onto his fist): "Allright! I blocked his punch! I've also started to get the feeling of Hisoka's special aura." That, from a virtual nen-noob as he was, back then. He clearly had opportunities left to him, and some leverage to counterattack.
If he could block and attack Hisoka, even after getting stuck with his bungee-gum, it's reasonable to assume Feitan could do *a lot* better (and Feitan is aware of Hisoka's bungee-gum ability, btw).
But, as I said, I'm giving Hisoka up to 80% chance of winning against Feitan, on the condition he knows of Feitans' ability.
That said, once Feitan activates his Rising Sun, there isn't a thing Hisoka can do with his bungee-gum nen anymore. It can't bounce back heat, can it?
On a personal level, Hisoka outperforms Feitan in regard to skill and analytical prowness...but frankly, how good his bungee-gum might be, if you compare the two hatsu's, Feitans' simply more devastatingly powerful. That's why I said all depends on how good Hisoka's knowledge of his adversary is, if he would fight Feitan. He can't toy with Feitan; he has to get a clean kill, fast.
We all know that Hisoka is powerful, but it's a deception to state that what he's shown so far in his fights would be enough to beat Feitan. Feitan's got, without a doubt, one of the most broken and powerful hatsu's in the entire hxhverse. Feitan's ability allows him to beat anyone whose attacks don't kill him in one hit, but do hurt him enough to use Rising Sun.
As for Hisoka. The strength of Bungee Gum and Dokkiri Texture lies in it's versatility and complexity. It's hard to see through and counter in a fight. Irregardless, I'm hardpressed to believe he can beat Feitan with it, before Feitan gets the chance to use Pain Packer. He uses blunt force trauma to damage his opponents. That puts him at a great disadvantage here.
Even moreso since the Genei Ryodan members know about his Bungee Gum and acknowledge it's strength. Whereas he doesn't know about the abilities of each member and only has a limited understanding of the ones he does.
His Bungee Gum and Dokkiri Texture can only take him so far against certain nenusers. The opponents he has used it on in a fight have hardly been impressive.
Tbh, I'm not even sure that it would be enough to do in someone like Zazan. Since even if he can attach Bungee Gum, due to the hardness and durability of his body he can pretty much tank whatever Hisoka throws at him. I'd like to hear other people's opinion on this, since maybe I'm leaving something out.
Anyway, nobody is looking down on his abilities, it's only that if you compare them to others they come of a bit short. I'm pretty sure he'll have more to show for when he goes all out though.
I concur completely.
If Hisoka doesn't know Feitans' ability, he has no more than 40% chance of winning. And almost none if he doesn't escape in time (or uses another unknown hatsu) when Feitan uses Rising Sun.
That said, his chances would improve considerably if he did now. Feitans' biggest weakness is of a more personal nature; he seems over-confident and pretty careless. Almost with disastrous consequences, as we can see with zazan; thinking he would be able to finish her of in one stroke, he got careless and forgot to keep up his nen-defense. That was a serious tactical blunder, one that I don't see Hisoka making so easily. If zaza would have been a bit more skilled and powerful with nen, Feitan *would* actually have died - before he could use Pain Packer.
For what we've seen thusfar, Hisoka's analytical and tactical fightingskills are higher than Feitans'. In hatsu-power, Feitan outclasses Hisoka. Thus, as said before, it comes down to the question whether Hisoka realizes the potential threat Feitans' hatsu poses.
Danchou
09-13-2008, 02:14 PM
Nice analysis as usual.
If I were ten years older and liked .... guys we could be something, Neby.
Now we run before we get trampled by rabid Hisoka fanboys and girls. :LOS
Nice analysis as usual.
If I were ten years older and liked .... guys we could be something, Neby.
Hmpf. Well, you don't necessarily have to be 10 years older! :mad It's not like I'm that old! Nor that I'm not able to be interested in people younger than me! :P
That said... I forgot your age, so...if you're 8 years old, you probably legally need to be ten years older, indeed! :laugh
As for being a guy...that poses a bit of a bigger problem than being my age (which, I repeat, is still young!!), true. But I'll tell you what: if you look like Kurapica or Pitou, I'll get over my objections!
LOL :nuts
Now we run before we get trampled by rabid Hisoka fanboys and girls. :LOS
OMG! :wha I forgot about that! This place is full of them!! RRuuuuunnn! :high
Ennoea
09-13-2008, 03:18 PM
Oh noes discussion, long posts *puts on Glasses*:quite
Danchou
09-13-2008, 03:31 PM
Hmpf. Well, you don't necessarily have to be 10 years older! :mad It's not like I'm that old! Nor that I'm not able to be interested in people younger than me! :P
That said... I forgot you're age, so...if you're 8 years old, you probably legally need to be ten years older, indeed! :laugh
As for being a guy...that poses a bit of a bigger problem than being my age (which, I repeat, is still young!!), true. But I'll tell you what: if you look like Kurapica or Pitou, I'll get over my objections!
LOL :nutsLulz. I didn't mean to get you mad. :argh I actually forgot your age as well. Just knew that you too weren't one of the young'ns (same for me).
Unfortunately, as much as I wish it were different, I don't look like Kurapica or Pitou at all. But I do know your taste a bit know now. *notes that you like traps* :wink
OMG! :wha I forgot about that! This place is full of them!! RRuuuuunnn! :highThey must be sleeping or something. Normally it doesn't take them this long to flame us with their cards, stones and bungee gum. :)
Lulz. I didn't mean to get you mad. I actually forgot your age as well. Just knew that you too weren't one of the young'ns (same for me).
Unfortunately, as much as I wish it were different, I don't look like Kurapica or Pitou at all. But I do know your taste a bit know now. *notes that you like traps* :wink
They must be sleeping or something. Normally it doesn't take them this long to flame us with their cards, stones and bungee gum. :)
You know my taste? :huh I'm wondering myself, sometimes. :amuse Taste is a strange thing, after all; it's not because I like Ice cream, I don't like pancakes, for instance. Ofcourse, pancakes WITH icecream are even better! :wink
PS. 'traps'? I had to look that one up, but I somehow doubt you meant "the percussion instruments of a jazz or dance band" or did you mean "contrivances used for catching game or other animals"? :) If you mean sluts...well...Pitou looks like one, true. But Kurapica doesn't! He looks like the very opposite; a bit innocent and angel-like. Until his eyes shine red.
That said, I guess it's true that everyone has his favorite dishes. While it doesn't mean one shouldn't try out some other things, it also means there is some stuff you can expect not to taste that great, and some things you're fairly sure of that will taste fantastic.
hm. enough with the analogies already.:amuse
BTW, in your defense: I kinda knew it was pretty damn difficult for anyone to look like Pitou. :nuts She's a neko-antish female who's male according to canon (well, rumour has it the canon says it, anyway). Unless humans can grow ears and tails, it'll be some time before I can date a Pitouesk person. :notrust
As for the Hisokafanboys...maybe we convinced them by our rational arguments and logical analysis?
Ok, ok, I know: that would be a first on any forum...:laugh
Hmmm...I should say something on topic too, since I've been complaining of too few hxh related posts myself... I actually want to know if you ever watched '12 kingdoms' anime; it's pretty good too (also one of my favorites, aside hxh)...especially the chapters about Taiki and his emperor.
But that ain't hxh...
hmm...ok.... some additional info about (the strength of) Hisoka. To be very honest, I sometimes feel he's a bit hyped up by some, here. Yes, he's damn strong...but some act as if he's really with the top 5, or something. THAT, my friends, is pretty doubtful. For instance, in the anime (celestial tower arc) it is said that Hisoka probably is the equal of the floormasters. Which means pretty damn strong, for sure, but it also means there are at least 2 to 10 (I don't remember if they say an exact number for the floormasters) nen-fighters that are of the same level as Hisoka. That's not counting Kuroro, Zeno, Silva, Netero, Ging, etc.
This puts things a bit back in perspective; Hisoka is top-tier, no doubt, but he isn't (yet) with the top-ten elite, if one looks at it rationally. Or at least (because nothing is certain in hxh unless it's in the canon); it's extremely unlikely.
/me runs away fast, now
hgfdsahjkl
09-13-2008, 04:59 PM
@NeBy
for hisoka vs Feitan
both of you didnt say something to be flamed for
we dont know who will win from what we saw
(even if i am sure hisoka will win :LOS )
in celestial tower arc hisoka was a floormaster i am sure he could go heigher may be indeed got heigher or he left because he wasnt interested they didnt state anything about it
so that doesnt tell us anything at all
as for hisoka being elite
the way Togashi writes about Hisoka just makes me believe he is elite
there is no proof (we have to wait for one and it will come)
plus kuroro cant be HIsoka first super strong target someone as hisoka who lives only to fight must have fought countless oponent before who are top-tier people as kuroro and Zoldyck and he won because he is alive(i think someone who can beat many top-tier is an elite)
i know that wasnt written in the manga but you can tell that from his character and how Togashi writes about him
he even challenged netero hisoka isnt an idiot who wants to challenge those people for nothing
well that what i think its better to wait for more of hisoka
i saw few episodes of '12 kingdoms and then stopped when i knew it wont follow the manga to the end
i like to recommand monster for you you seem like the kind of person who will like it
now i am interested in what is your dish :LOS
Freija
09-13-2008, 05:45 PM
Nice analysis as usual.
If I were ten years older and liked .... guys we could be something, Neby.
Now we run before we get trampled by rabid Hisoka fanboys and girls. :LOS
I need to read your posts really, but I'm too lazy atm
Danchou
09-13-2008, 06:26 PM
You know my taste? :huh I'm wondering myself, sometimes. Taste is a strange thing, after all; it's not because I like Ice cream, I don't like pancakes, for instance. Ofcourse, pancakes WITH icecream are even better!
PS. 'traps'? I had to look that one up, but I somehow doubt you meant "the percussion instruments of a jazz or dance band" or did you mean "contrivances used for catching game or other animals"? :) If you mean sluts...well...Pitou looks like one, true. But Kurapica doesn't! He looks like the very opposite; a bit innocent and angel-like. Until his eyes shine red.
That said, I guess it's true that everyone has his favorite dishes. While it doesn't mean one shouldn't try out some other things, it also means there is some stuff you can expect not to taste that great, and some things you're fairly sure of that will taste fantastic.
hm. enough with the analogies already.:amuse
BTW, in your defense: I kinda knew it was pretty damn difficult for anyone to look like Pitou. :nuts She's a neko-antish female who's male according to canon (well, rumour has it the canon says it, anyway). Unless humans can grow ears and tails, it'll be some time before I can date a Pitouesk person. :notrustA trap is someone that looks like a female (or male), but turns out to be of the opposite gender. Kurapica and Nefelpitou can both be considered traps. Karuto for instance is like a supertrap. :)
But you're right, it's hard to box taste in categories.
Btw: I can actually find someone that looks like Pitou for you. There is bound to be some Nef and Kurapica cosplay out there and if not, furry (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=furry) is the next best thing. :wink
As for the Hisokafanboys...maybe we convinced them by our rational arguments and logical analysis?
Ok, ok, I know: that would be a first on any forum...:laughFanboys and logic? On my internet?! :argh
Hmmm...I should say something on topic too, since I've been complaining of too few hxh related posts myself... I actually want to know if you ever watched '12 kingdoms' anime; it's pretty good too (also one of my favorites, aside hxh)...especially the chapters about Taiki and his emperor.
But that ain't hxh...Z0mg. This is a huge coincidence. I started watching the 12 Kingdoms anime yesterday. I'm currently on ep 2 and i'm planning to watch the rest today. It is indeed pretty good so far.
hmm...ok.... some additional info about (the strength of) Hisoka. To be very honest, I sometimes feel he's a bit hyped up by some, here. Yes, he's damn strong...but some act as if he's really with the top 5, or something. THAT, my friends, is pretty doubtful. For instance, in the anime (celestial tower arc) it is said that Hisoka probably is the equal of the floormasters. Which means pretty damn strong, for sure, but it also means there are at least 2 to 10 (I don't remember if they say an exact number for the floormasters) nen-fighters that are of the same level as Hisoka. That's not counting Kuroro, Zeno, Silva, Netero, Ging, etc.
This puts things a bit back in perspective; Hisoka is top-tier, no doubt, but he isn't (yet) with the top-ten elite, if one looks at it rationally. Or at least (because nothing is certain in hxh unless it's in the canon); it's extremely unlikely.
/me runs away fast, now*Runs along*
I need to read your posts really, but I'm too lazy atmYou really should since they're made of truth, win and Hisoka'bashing' :pek
hgfdsahjkl
09-13-2008, 06:34 PM
lol who is your favourite character Reckoner ?
oh i tried to draw a Dancho hisoka i hope you all like it :)
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6127/13092008274xc8.jpg
@NeBy
for hisoka vs Feitan
both of you didnt say something to be flamed for
you dont know who will win from what we saw
(even if i am sure hisoka will win :LOS )
Well, actually, we were a bit more precise: we concluded it was likely he would loose to Feitan if he didn't know about Feitans' hatsu, and was likely to win if he did.
in celestial tower arc hisoka was a floormaster i am sure he could go heigher may be indeed got heigher or he left because he wasnt interested they didnt state anything about it
so that doesnt tell us anything at all
Some small corrections: Hisoka *became* floormaster after his tenth victory (against Gon). Maybe he could beat some other floormasters easily, maybe not, point of the matter is, based on what was said in the anime, he was considered equal. At least this indicates there can't be a huge nen-difference between him and the other floormasters.
as for hisoka being elite
they way Togashi writes about Hisoka just makes me believe he is elite
there is no proof (we have to wait for one and it will come)
As long as we agree that's conjecture. Togashi made of Hisoka a very strange, slightly deranged and shotaconish fight-loving (and strong) nen-user. Weird and twisted as he might be, he has, strangely enough, some charismatic appeal - we all sort of love Hisoka; he's a great villain.
But as for how strong he really is...one can only deduce he's top-tier, but I don't interpret Togashis' introduction of Hisoka to mean he's with the top-ten super-elite. If one is honest and only looks at what Hisoka actually DID...there really isn't much basis to claim he belongs to the very top.
Let's review: he loses against Kurapica (but could have won, granted), he beats and kills a whole lot of people in the exam arc who didn't even know nen yet, nor were even hunters at that moment: not really all that amazing. He beat Kastro, but Kastro wasn't all *that* strong, and he made the grave error of concentrating on a nen-group that wasn't his. One can speculate that he has killed dozens of other top-tier nenfighters, but what we actually KNOW of, isn't all that impressive. During all the arcs he was in, he always has killed or won against enemies who were pretty weak.
Yeah, sure, he wanted to fight Netero and Kuroro, but nothing came of that, did it? So is he actually up their level, or does he just imagine he is? There is no doubt he hasn't got a lack of self-esteem and is confident in his abilities, but whether his arrogance is really warranted, is still to be proven. What he has proven is, that he's pretty crazy, he's a good nen-fighter and he has outstanding tactical prowess and an analytical mind when fighting. But, his own feeling of superiority and attitude aside, when one looks at the actual accomplishments he did during the course of the manga/anime...he has not shown anything that would let him earn a place in the top-ten, as of yet.
In fact, it's only *because* he's become floormaster - a given fact, not speculation - that one can assume he's top-tier at all, because he had to win 10 fights against other nen-fighters, and as stated, he didn't loose once. So he clearly is above average. But if it weren't for that, there wouldn't be any *factual* basis to even consider him above average.
plus kuroro cant be HIsoka first super strong target someone as hisoka who lives only to fight must have fought countless oponent before who are top-tier people as kuroro and Zoldyck and he won because he is alive(i think someone who can beat many top-tier is an elite)
i know that wasnt written in the manga but you must know that from his character and how Togashi writes about him
he even challenged netero hisoka isnt an idiot who wants to challenge those people for nothing
All speculation. One might reasonably assume he has killed other people, yes, but one doesn't know how strong they were. Considering whom he killed thusfar, they could have been pretty weak as well. He's portrayed as a fightacon, granted, but he hasn't shown any victories worth the name, and so doesn't really deserve a place in the top ten - as far as we can know - neither.
i saw few episodes of '12 kingdoms and then stopped when i knew it wont follow the manga to the end
i like to recommand monster for you you seem like the kind of person who will like it
now i am interested in what is your dish :LOS
lol.smile-big I like many dishes, from the exotic to the locally made. And I'm always open to try out something new. Why...some months ago, I especially went to a eat a Japanese dish. It was quite hot and spicy! The 'wasabi', I mean. :P
Enough about food and tastes , however. :laugh
I've already saw monster. There are pretty few anime I didn't already see, I suspect (though I not always remember the name, afterwards). Well, that's available in the West, and that I find interesting (I'm not really into pure shojo, for instance). Though I once got a good tip about ermm... Keno's voyage? (f-, I forgot the name! But it was a cool anime). Personally I'm more annoyed by repeat-loop filler than that the anime isn't strictly following the manga (depends a bit on how much, of course). Even hxh anime was a bit different here and there, but it were actually often improvements, and it didn't derail from the main story.
KLoWn
09-13-2008, 07:11 PM
Real discussions in mah HxH? I approve :quite
hgfdsahjkl
09-13-2008, 07:18 PM
tell me your opinions on what i draw :argh
A trap is someone that looks like a female (or male), but turns out to be of the opposite gender. Kurapica and Nefelpitou can both be considered traps. Karuto for instance is like a supertrap.
Ah, I see. I thought it was described as 'androgenic', or 'sexual ambiguous'.
'trap' seems shorter, though.:wink
I'm not sure if I would fall for it in rl, but damn, I'm falling for it in anime. I'm completely taken in by Kurapica, Pitou and even Kalluto. They look so damn cute and...the ambiguous thingy actually adds to the attraction. Pretty devious of Togashi, come to think of it: all his cute looking females are males. :notrust
Ok, Machi was allright too.
But you're right, it's hard to box taste in categories.
I'm always right. Well, maybe except when I'm wrong. :P
Btw: I can actually find someone that looks like Pitou for you. There is bound to be some Nef and Kurapica cosplay out there and if not, furry (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=furry) is the next best thing. :wink
Only if she can say: "Nyyyaaa", and can jump 500 meters.
Fanboys and logic? On my internet?!
Your internet? Wait a sec...you're All Gore??! :argh
Z0mg. This is a huge coincidence. I started watching the 12 Kingdoms anime yesterday. I'm currently on ep 2 and i'm planning to watch the rest today. It is indeed pretty good so far.
It's telepathy!! We're linked to eachother, like Pitou and her King. (maybe a bad comparison :oh)
Actually, I've watched it some time ago, but I recently rewatched the taiki episodes again. The first episodes weren't all THAT great, but much like hxh, the series grows on you. There are some really marvelous episodes in it, and the story gets captivating too...a lot like hxh, thus. I especially liked the Taiki episodes (but take your time, don't rush towards it). It's one of my great regrets the anime stopped *before* I know what actually happened to Taiki and his emperor. Where did things go wrong, after everything seemed to have settled just fine? Poor Taiki! It's a damn (sad) mystery... I want to know!! :( Ah well, maybe I should read the manga...
Let me know what you thought of it - especially those about Taiki.
*Runs along*
Telepathy!!!:amazed
:laugh
You really should since they're made of truth, win and Hisoka'bashing' :pek
True. But if they're too lazy to read your posts, I doubt they'll even bother glancing at one of mine...
Jicksy
09-13-2008, 07:31 PM
I'm not sure if I would fall for it in rl, but damn, I'm falling for it in anime. I'm completely taken in by Kurapica, Pitou and even Kalluto. They look so damn cute and...the ambiguous thingy actually adds to the attraction. Pretty devious of Togashi, come to think of it: all his cute looking females are males. :notrust
Ok, Machi was allright too.
you forgot shizuku :uwah unless ur not into shizuku :zaru
Danchou
09-13-2008, 07:32 PM
lol who is your favourite character Reckoner ?
oh i tried to draw a Dancho hisoka i hope you all like it :)
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6127/13092008274xc8.jpgMy absolute favorite has always been Kurapica. It's my previous username. But other favorites are the Genei Ryodan, Kuroro, Hisoka, Zeno, Silva, Ging, Meruem, the RG :argh, too many.
I like your drawing. Especially the facial expression looks like that of Hisoka.
I've started to wonder how base Feitan without the use of Pain Packer, but with his umbrella would fare against Hisoka or even Nobunaga for that matter. Should be a pretty interesting matchup, I'd say.
I'm off to watch 12 Kingdoms and maybe go out. 'll be back later.
Jicksy
09-13-2008, 07:35 PM
tell me your opinions on what i draw :argh
its very gd :nod liking the facial expression :hehee
hgfdsahjkl
09-13-2008, 07:37 PM
may be i should bash Kurapica a little :LOS
@gixa
thanks do you know i used to draw a lot of slam dunk i even draw a Dōjinshi fot it
too bad i lost them :cry
KLoWn
09-13-2008, 07:39 PM
tell me your opinions on what i draw :argh
What did you draw?
Danchou
09-13-2008, 07:42 PM
may be i should bash Kurapica a little :LOSSo that's why you asked. Damn, you pulled a fast one on me.
And just after I repped you for your drawing too. :cry
I'm used to Kurapica bashing though. A lot of people think he's a bitch for beating Ubo or just hate his bishiness.
Now I'm really off.
hgfdsahjkl
09-13-2008, 07:45 PM
What did you draw?
last page a dancho hisoka
@Reckoner
i wont bash Kurapica i like him and his chains (my favourite weapon)
i asked that because you said you dont like him and i knew he was your favourite
you forgot shizuku :uwah unless ur not into shizuku :zaru
Shizuku wasn't that cute. I'd rather look at Neon, then.:amuse
So that's why you asked. Damn, you pulled a fast one on me.
And just after I repped you for your drawing too. :cry
I'm used to Kurapica bashing though. A lot of people think he's a bitch for beating Ubo or just hate his bishiness.
Now I'm really off.
I like his bishiness!! :)
btw, here's a pretty cool AMV on youtube of 12 kingdoms:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp72gML9p6A&feature=related
Freija
09-13-2008, 08:21 PM
You guys are catching up to me with posts again, I need to start being active again :argh
Ennoea
09-13-2008, 10:39 PM
My Position is already lost, goddamn you studies:argh
You guys are catching up to me with posts again, I need to start being active again :argh
Noyou
My Position is already lost, goddamn you studies:argh
It looks like as soon as I past Xion you're the next goal :haha
KLoWn
09-14-2008, 12:10 AM
last page a dancho hisoka
Pretty good, arms are too small though imo.
My Position is already lost, goddamn you studies:argh
You can't win against Freija, he's like the new Emperor Time.
Actually, ET went away when Freija showed up, coincidence? I think not :pek
Pretty good, arms are too small though imo.
You can't win against Freija, he's like the new Emperor Time.
Actually, ET went away when Freija showed up, coincidence? I think not :pek
LOL ET.
Any way any one have a good hisoka stock I can use?
Jicksy
09-14-2008, 02:30 AM
may be i should bash Kurapica a little :LOS
@gixa
thanks do you know i used to draw a lot of slam dunk i even draw a Dōjinshi fot it
too bad i lost them :cry
they would have been something to see :arg
ahh well, its not like u can't draw some more :LOS
hgfdsahjkl
09-14-2008, 04:31 AM
yeah slam dunk ftw
i will try draw something :)
uchiha-alia
09-14-2008, 04:52 AM
some great posts in the last two pages, but i cant rep right now :argh
NeBy, I do believe that the conclusion to the Hisoka V Feitan fight was the right one, and basically anyone who isnt ALOT stronger than Feitan, and doesnt know is ability, is screwed- pain packer is pretty broken.
As for Hisoka's level, from the way his character has been portrayed, we cant help but think of him as top tier, however, i (as you know, a hisoka fan) severely doubt he's in the top 5 nen users, or even top 10 for that matter, and hes possibly even lower than that. We dont doubt that hes extremely strong, but as you said- theres 10 floor masters around his level, and i doubt that a group of 10 can call itself extreme-top tier. He wants to fight Danchou, and i believe he is storng enough to fight Kuroro, but we already know so many that ARE around his level (if not higher: Silva, Zeno, Kuroro, Netero..)
lol who is your favourite character Reckoner ?
oh i tried to draw a Dancho hisoka i hope you all like it :)
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6127/13092008274xc8.jpg
lol thats quite good, i love the hisoka eyes, although the arms are alittle too thin. If youre gonna draw again- draw Hanzou (:ninja) coz hes awesome :pek
if you gonna draw Slam Dunk- draw Sendoh (:amuse) coz hes also awesome :pek
Freija
09-14-2008, 06:05 AM
ET who's that ?
Also :zaru good morning.
Jon Snow
09-14-2008, 06:10 AM
Wassup bitches?
Freija
09-14-2008, 06:12 AM
Discussing how hard Pokkuru got owned :zaru
Dracule Mihawk
09-14-2008, 06:17 AM
When was Hisoka vs Feitan?
KLoWn
09-14-2008, 06:18 AM
ET who's that ?
Emperor Time, he was pretty infamous around this section, and some other sections i guess, for saying the most random shit, and 99% of the time it was just some one-liner which had nothing to do with the subject that was being discussed, the 1% that's left was just him agreeing with everyone without even knowing what the fuck was going on.
What happened to him btw? Anyone knows?
Freija
09-14-2008, 06:21 AM
Emperor Time, he was pretty infamous around this section, and some other sections i guess, for saying the most random shit, and 99% of the time it was just some one-liner which had nothing to do with the subject that was being discussed, the 1% that's left was just him agreeing with everyone without even knowing what the fuck was going on.
What happened to him btw? Anyone knows?
Sounds like me, though I'm more a mix of discussing and spamming so it's not really ever technically spamming :LOS
Jon Snow
09-14-2008, 06:39 AM
Discussing how hard Pokkuru got owned :zaru
Pokkuru > Shizuku > Ant
:pek
Freija
09-14-2008, 06:41 AM
The ant was not using his nen, he was not in a closed area so he could use his web efficiently ....
Jon Snow
09-14-2008, 06:44 AM
He was dead meat. It took Pokkuru a single punch and he had a dead lock-on. Raped, I say.
Freija
09-14-2008, 06:51 AM
Aye, keep dreaming.
Jon Snow
09-14-2008, 06:51 AM
Need I prove it with Jplaya's canon? :pek
Freija
09-14-2008, 06:54 AM
That only shows that you are dreaming.
Emperor Time, he was pretty infamous around this section, and some other sections i guess, for saying the most random shit, and 99% of the time it was just some one-liner which had nothing to do with the subject that was being discussed, the 1% that's left was just him agreeing with everyone without even knowing what the fuck was going on.
What happened to him btw? Anyone knows?
an hero?
considering how many poeple in the battle dome like to rip on him :edu
KLoWn
09-14-2008, 08:15 AM
an hero?
considering how many poeple in the battle dome like to rip on him :edu
Hero? jhijbibibib
Hero? jhijbibibib
Suicide........:uwah
Jetstorm
09-14-2008, 08:51 AM
Finally caught up again. :argh
And now I can say that I want this arc to finally end but it is wishful thinking to have Togashi keep this manga up for any extended period of time at this point. :D:
Oversoul
09-14-2008, 09:37 AM
LOL ET.
People who live in glass houses shouldn´t throw stones.
Look at your own posts in this thread mr-what-are-we-talking-about
Freija
09-14-2008, 09:43 AM
Hero? jhijbibibib
An hero :argh
Hisoka
09-14-2008, 09:47 AM
Now we run before we get trampled by rabid Hisoka fanboys and girls. :LOS
yeah you better cause I am here now :pek
They must be sleeping or something. Normally it doesn't take them this long to flame us with their cards, stones and bungee gum. :)
you got that right I went to shopping and then stayed at a friend's house =p
Now get ready bitches for my comeback :yell
Hisokatard Mode: ON
hmm...ok.... some additional info about (the strength of) Hisoka. To be very honest, I sometimes feel he's a bit hyped up by some, here. Yes, he's damn strong...but some act as if he's really with the top 5, or something. THAT, my friends, is pretty doubtful. For instance, in the anime (celestial tower arc) it is said that Hisoka probably is the equal of the floormasters. Which means pretty damn strong, for sure, but it also means there are at least 2 to 10 (I don't remember if they say an exact number for the floormasters) nen-fighters that are of the same level as Hisoka. That's not counting Kuroro, Zeno, Silva, Netero, Ging, etc.
This puts things a bit back in perspective; Hisoka is top-tier, no doubt, but he isn't (yet) with the top-ten elite, if one looks at it rationally. Or at least (because nothing is certain in hxh unless it's in the canon); it's extremely unlikely.
first off who said that Hisoka is as equal as the floor masters? It depends who is saying it, and lets not forget he is the type of person who wouldnt go all out if the person he is fighting isnt worth it, so what the person who indicated him as equal as floor master has seen isnt all of what he is capable, besides dont be fooled by him, someone as decieving as hisoka wont show all his tricks in one go and in public fights such as celestical tower!
so I find the judgement that he is equal to a floor master pretty bias in some levels
anyways all said and done even I pretty much doubt he is in top 10 nen users no way....
you all seem to forget one thing, and that is he is only 28, most of the people you mentioned above (bolded) except for Ging and Kuroro are very much older and do you remember that Netero's prime time was in his 50??
Hisoka has a long way to go and he is an unriped fruit himself in some ways :hehee
Come to think of it the reason he is challenging Kuroro is probably that, to challenge himself and his abilities and to getting better at what he does
so assuming he is in the same level as someone such as Silva (with 20 years more fighting experience in his hands) is plain ignorance but what need to be remembered is that he has high potential.
Hisokatard Mode : OFF
Hi there did i say something? :)
lol who is your favourite character Reckoner ?
oh i tried to draw a Dancho hisoka i hope you all like it :)
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6127/13092008274xc8.jpg
very welldone, I love the hisoka expression on his face, you should draw more of these >=)
Danchou
09-14-2008, 09:47 AM
I liked ET based on his awesome name, but his character was a bit out there.
Does anybody else notice and hate it that nearly every AMV made is accompanied by music by Linkin Park? Stop doing that, ffs.
Still roughly two weaks before the next HxH chapter. I wonder what it will cover. I'm guessing Yupi and co. again.
edit: Run!!!
Freija
09-14-2008, 09:54 AM
^
Yes, YES AND YES
Danchou
09-14-2008, 10:11 AM
^
I read your entry in the Blender directory yesterday.
You were are pretty epic indeed.
If only you'd spam this thread like that, we'd be no. 1 in the KL2 in no time. :amazed
Anyway, ontopic.
I've got the feeling that Yupi is going to get suckerpunched by Kammura. But so far it seems it only amps Killua's reaction time to lightningspeed. Don't see how that's going to allow him to fight Yupi. Or am I missing something?
Finally caught up again. :argh
And now I can say that I want this arc to finally end but it is wishful thinking to have Togashi keep this manga up for any extended period of time at this point. :D:
Oh shi a mod......
So two weeks till next chapter?:wtf
Danchou
09-14-2008, 10:39 AM
Yup. Something like that. Maybe even earlier, since HxH always had early spoilers.
We should vote for it as manga of the month.
Freija
09-14-2008, 11:12 AM
^
I read your entry in the Blender directory yesterday.
You were are pretty epic indeed.:sag
True, only reason I'm on the forum now is that I promised I wouldn't do anything =/ So I'm a good boy ^.^
3 perms and an innumerable amount of bans was enough for me.
If only you'd spam this thread like that, we'd be no. 1 in the KL2 in no time. :amazed
:sag I could, but won't
Anyway, ontopic.
I've got the feeling that Yupi is going to get suckerpunched by Kammura. But so far it seems it only amps Killua's reaction time to lightningspeed. Don't see how that's going to allow him to fight Yupi. Or am I missing something?
We haven't really seen kammuru, we only know killua used a move to move fast, and that he has a new attack called Kammuru.
Ennoea
09-14-2008, 02:44 PM
I hate Amv's, putting together random clips and Numb by Linkin Park doesn't euate to "awesomeness".
yes thats rigth, Im the new ET, random posts and stupidity ahoy!!:LOS
Jon Snow
09-14-2008, 03:04 PM
^ your sig makes up for it
Malumultimus
09-14-2008, 03:36 PM
Wait, what? Killua described what Kanmuru was when he used it. I remember because it reminded me of "if, then" statements in computer programming. His body reacts in pre-set ways without him having to think about it. He used it to say "if the dart touches his forehead, then his right hand clasps shut" and put his head to his forehead. The dart appeared to pierce his forehead and his hand automatically clamped down on it.
Jetstorm
09-14-2008, 03:43 PM
Oh shi a mod......
So two weeks till next chapter?:wtf
A mod with no power in this section. =P
I'm hoping that Killua starts turning the tide along with Knuckle.
Freija
09-14-2008, 03:48 PM
^ your sig makes up for it
I agree with statement.
I'm hoping that Killua starts turning the tide along with Knuckle.It's a great combination, Killua can attack with long range attacks and disturb Yupi during key moments, as shown with his entry, while Knuckle can focus more on finding openings Killua creates.
Hisoka
09-14-2008, 03:55 PM
I did a drawing of Hisoka from HxH today, I thought I share =)
http://img46.onemanga.com/mangas/00000078/00000008/12.jpg
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3091/hisokasj9.png
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2131/hisoka4eg5.png
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6331/hisoka5mb7.png
I tried my best to get it as close as possible to Togashi's version
and as for Yupi vs Killua x Knuckle I cant wait to see X3
Danchou
09-14-2008, 03:55 PM
:sag
True, only reason I'm on the forum now is that I promised I wouldn't do anything =/ So I'm a good boy ^.^
3 perms and an innumerable amount of bans was enough for me.Wow, even though I'm aware of your reputation, it's hard to imagine what stuff you had to pull to get there. I haven't even had a warning. Well, maybe for flaming folks over at the OBD or sig violations. :notrust
:sag I could, but won't
We haven't really seen kammuru, we only know killua used a move to move fast, and that he has a new attack called Kammuru.I think it was more of a technique than an attack, but I might be wrong.
Wait, what? Killua described what Kanmuru was when he used it. I remember because it reminded me of "if, then" statements in computer programming. His body reacts in pre-set ways without him having to think about it. He used it to say "if the dart touches his forehead, then his right hand clasps shut" and put his head to his forehead. The dart appeared to pierce his forehead and his hand automatically clamped down on it.Yeah, but that sounds more like a (defensive) technique than a new attack.
edit: Nice work Hisoka. It looks accurate. Did you trace it?
Btw: this is the second time today that you've replied in between the time that I take to reply and actually post. I'm beginning to suspect that you're doing it to make me edit on purpose. :cry Is it cause I questioned Hisoka's powerlevelz?! :argh
Freija
09-14-2008, 04:02 PM
Wow, even though I'm aware of your reputation, it's hard to imagine what stuff you had to pull to get there. I haven't even had a warning. Well, maybe for flaming folks over at the OBD or sig violations. :notrust^.^I was just being myself :zaru
I think it was more of a technique than an attack, but I might be wrong.
Yeah, that's what I meant, but we have no means to know if the reaction speed is actually kammuru as that wouldn't be of very much help seeing he has to know where the attack will land for it to work.
Yeah, but that sounds more like a (defensive) technique than a new attack.
agreed.
Hibari Kyoya
09-14-2008, 06:03 PM
Thats awesome Hisoka :gar
Tachikoma
09-14-2008, 06:07 PM
Awesome Nico, you should find someone to colour :iria
Hisoka
09-14-2008, 06:08 PM
Thats awesome Hisoka :gar
Thanks <3
Awesome Nico, you should find someone to colour :iria
and thanks again <3
I would love to see it colored, I tried to give it a shot but it just came out wrong =/
Tachikoma
09-14-2008, 06:12 PM
I pretty much suck at colorings lol
I colored a drawing of Peter's once it looked terrible.
Freija
09-14-2008, 06:22 PM
I pretty much suck at colorings lol
I colored a drawing of Peter's once it looked terrible.
It was the drawing that was horrible :argh
You still have it ?
Tachikoma
09-14-2008, 06:26 PM
The original or the colour?
Im sure the color is on my PB, I'll look and see if I can find original.
Freija
09-14-2008, 06:33 PM
The colour, the original would be fine too, I need something to laugh at atm.
Hibari Kyoya
09-14-2008, 06:36 PM
The colour, the original would be fine too, I need something to laugh at atm.
look in the mirror then
Freija
09-14-2008, 06:38 PM
Then I won't be able to stop looking at my glorious self, however if you sent a pic of yourself I'd have something amusing :lmao
Hibari Kyoya
09-14-2008, 06:39 PM
ew dont fap please :LOS
fap over Zeno i heard hes ur type
Freija
09-14-2008, 06:40 PM
Zeno is like 64 or something, totally hot :LOS
Tachikoma
09-14-2008, 06:44 PM
Found the color.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd202/Tachikoma_Pilot/kass102pc5.jpg
Freija
09-14-2008, 06:49 PM
Heh, I still have no idea why you turned the hair pink and the blood green :zaru
Jon Snow
09-14-2008, 06:51 PM
Is that blood? Look like leaves to me.
Tachikoma
09-14-2008, 06:54 PM
Heh, I still have no idea why you turned the hair pink and the blood green :zaru
I was watching Lazenca lol
Freija
09-14-2008, 07:02 PM
Watching what ?
Hibari Kyoya
09-14-2008, 07:04 PM
lol peter ur quite the artist :lmao
Freija
09-14-2008, 07:05 PM
It looked allot better in the drawing program, I'll tell you that :zaru
But then again, I drew that in 10-15 min. And it was the first time I tried to draw something remotely like a character for the first time in like 2 years.
Tachikoma
09-14-2008, 07:07 PM
Watching what ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtkFBGX_Uck
Freija
09-14-2008, 07:09 PM
Too lazy, won't click :zaru
but okay, I take it it's colourful.
Tachikoma
09-14-2008, 07:11 PM
Its about 1 minute long lol
Hisoka
09-14-2008, 07:14 PM
I didnt see any pink hairs in it though =O
Tachikoma
09-14-2008, 07:17 PM
:( :( :( :( :(
There is a chick with fruity hair if I remember correctly.
Hisoka
09-14-2008, 07:19 PM
sorry I missed that one :sweatdrop
Freija
09-14-2008, 07:23 PM
You're getting old.
Hisoka
09-14-2008, 07:24 PM
You're getting old.
got something i dont know? =(
Tachikoma
09-14-2008, 07:31 PM
Me and Slips are a month apart in age lol
and its not in the opening its in the show itself :ano
Freija
09-14-2008, 07:34 PM
got something i dont know? =(
HxH anime release date released ?
Hisoka
09-14-2008, 07:36 PM
HxH anime release date released ?
now you are just lieing =(
and how old was slips again? 21?
I think older than that :sag
Oh god mekatokyo is still alive? :argh
Freija
09-14-2008, 07:39 PM
Yes, I am :zaru
edit: time to sleep, bye
Tachikoma
09-14-2008, 07:40 PM
A little older yes lol
But now I cant say may age anymore, lol
Slips's privacy and all :P
EDIT: Night Peter :3
Hisoka
09-14-2008, 07:41 PM
I think older than that :sag
Oh god mekatokyo is still alive? :argh
it was either 21 or 24 I am sure of it
OMG you've read megatokyo too? =O
edit: Nice work Hisoka. It looks accurate. Did you trace it?
lols i didnt see this XD
no i didnt trace it, i hate tracing, just by looking at it in onemanga and comparing =)
Btw: this is the second time today that you've replied in between the time that I take to reply and actually post. I'm beginning to suspect that you're doing it to make me edit on purpose. :cry Is it cause I questioned Hisoka's powerlevelz?! :argh
and yup that is probably why :pek
ph33r my powez :yell
Ennoea
09-14-2008, 10:58 PM
Slips has a free bus pass so you must be over 65 aswell.
Btw I can't believe its not butter.
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb191/omair_e/nigerian-scammer.jpg
:LOS
This is what happens when Im bored:argh
KLoWn
09-14-2008, 11:15 PM
Btw I can't believe its not butter.
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb191/omair_e/nigerian-scammer.jpg
:LOS
I don't get it :oh
Ennoea
09-15-2008, 11:59 AM
How can it not be butter when it tastes so good?!!!!!
Jicksy
09-15-2008, 12:24 PM
Klown's from... *looks at location* Sweden. he doesnt get it, at least i think lol. u have to be from the UK to understand that sentence, no? :zaru
but bk on topic... who here thinks gon and pitou will actually engage in combat? raise ya haaand :zaru
Freija
09-15-2008, 01:20 PM
I don't get it :oh
Me neither, must be because we're not from a country that survives solely on fat people.... and we have good humour.
Hisoka
09-15-2008, 01:57 PM
but bk on topic... who here thinks gon and pitou will actually engage in combat? raise ya haaand :zaru
pretty much doubt it =/ unless pitou fucks up XD
Freija
09-15-2008, 02:12 PM
I wannnnnnnnt Pitou to survive :argh
Hibari Kyoya
09-15-2008, 02:14 PM
Pitou suxx death to Pitou
Freija
09-15-2008, 02:15 PM
You're a hater.
Hibari Kyoya
09-15-2008, 02:18 PM
nah im not a hater just death to them all :kukuku
Hisoka
09-15-2008, 02:27 PM
as long as he remains evil i dont mind him surviving
but if he turns into a goody good shoes character, I would rather see him die in the battle there and then :pek
hgfdsahjkl
09-15-2008, 02:30 PM
i want those ants to live so hisoka can hunt their ass :LOS
Jon Snow
09-15-2008, 02:46 PM
Death to Neffelfag :mad
Hisoka
09-15-2008, 02:50 PM
Death to Neffelfag :mad
here we go :lmao
hgfdsahjkl
09-15-2008, 02:51 PM
mmmmmmmm 16 000
i win
Hisoka
09-15-2008, 02:52 PM
yeah you got it hgfdsahjkl :cry
hgfdsahjkl
09-15-2008, 02:54 PM
is it something special to get one of those ?
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