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Yamazaki
09-13-2007, 04:04 PM
Thanks for the link! :nod
YamiHikari
09-13-2007, 06:37 PM
Thank you!!!
What an amazing chapter all around!
General Mustang
09-13-2007, 06:39 PM
Thanks for the link!! Awesome chapter!
Dr. Hiluruk
09-13-2007, 10:24 PM
hohenheim is such a badass. my god, whut an awesome chapter.
Harley Quinn
09-13-2007, 10:29 PM
That was actually really awesome. I didn't really like Hohenheim before, but now he has a cool back story, plus he helped to heal Izumi. <3
Arakawa is definitely creative.
I don't think he literary is the stone but more like the stones inside of him since he was human once.
Pretty good chapter and now the names that he was uttering a few chapters back makes sense. I didn't expect him to actually be an inhabitant of Xerxes though, that was surprising.
Blind Itachi
09-14-2007, 01:30 PM
Holy Jesus Hoenheim Christ!...
:lmao... damn this is how you write a story...
Lazlow
09-14-2007, 01:50 PM
Awesome chapter. And Hoenheim being the philosopher's stone....O___O
Ramentastic
09-14-2007, 06:32 PM
Awesome chapter. I had a feeling that the flask was Father, but hoenheim being a philosopher's stone? wow
Arakawa>>>Kishimoto
erictheking
09-14-2007, 06:44 PM
Great chapter. But am I the only one who thinks that Hoenheim's statement at the end wasn't as true as it sounded? Forgive me if I mix some anime facts up with canon, because I watched & read it all recently.
The philosopher's stone is made by the sacrifice of a large amount of human souls, therefore it is possible for the stone to be made many times over..so is Hoenheim the philosopher's stone or a philosopher's stone?
By the way, does anyone know how the small philosopher's stones (that the state alchemists were using in the Ishvar war, the ones which Kimblee keeps eating lol) were made?
With this revelation, is it possible to gauge who is stronger between Hoenheim & Homunculus? Is Hoenheim a definite immortal this time?
the stone is really just inside of him like father did to him he even said it during this chapter
Cipher
09-14-2007, 09:18 PM
Dude... I always manage to forget how awesome FMA is after about 15 days, so I'm constantly amazed at each new chapter.
Blaze of Glory
09-14-2007, 09:22 PM
I WAS LIKE "WTF!? "eek" as soon as I read this chapter.
The homunculus in the flask was father? :eek
HOENHEIM THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE?!?!? :eek
Alright, now I am officially freaked out.
I thought that was Pride but damn I did not expec Father to be that dude! HOLY SHIT!
@lk3mizt
09-15-2007, 02:36 AM
okay wait, so the thing that was behind pride when he was talking to mustang's assistant was Father?
Kuroro
09-15-2007, 05:44 PM
As usual, FMA "pwns". :dance. Anyway, it's good to see how Van Hoenheim became "the philosopher's stone", and it'll be interesting to see what eventually happens down the road.
Lenalee
09-16-2007, 06:57 PM
Hard to believe Hohenheim used to be a slave. .-.
Anyway, the whole chapter was really "Wow"-worthy. It makes me think that Hohenheim may somehow later help Alphonse get his body back, being the stone and all.
Harley Quinn
09-16-2007, 10:38 PM
I would love it if what Hinamori said happened. Hohenheim and Al don't really like, interact enough. So if he did that it would be almost cute in a father-son kinda way.
@lk3mizt
09-17-2007, 01:05 AM
wow, imagine looking all over the world for something not knowing that daddy had it all the time! XDDD
okay, even if they knew he did, the would not have known where he was! :P
Elijah Snow
09-17-2007, 02:13 AM
FINALLY caught up and at a crucial point. This chapter was just a huge shock and am so excited for next month's. The history on Van Hohenheim was so great and unexpected. Even though it's a monthly the wait is ALWAYS worth it.
erictheking
09-17-2007, 04:29 PM
Yeah..this manga is incredible. It's definitely worth the wait, but I just hate waiting an entire month.
Definitely an unexpected twist... just reminds me of how amazing this manga is. I wonder how things are going to progress now... I remember Arakawa commenting on how this manga is supposed to end up around 80 - 100 chapters...
Rynoa
09-21-2007, 07:18 PM
Hard to believe Hohenheim used to be a slave. .-.
Anyway, the whole chapter was really "Wow"-worthy. It makes me think that Hohenheim may somehow later help Alphonse get his body back, being the stone and all.
I don't think he can, atleast at this point. He wasn't able to return Izumi's organs because of her sins. So he won't be able to help Al or Ed either. Only if there's a twist to it. It has to be, since father came up with a real body to him, so it's possible to create human flesh it seems...
Ninjaguiden
09-22-2007, 09:09 PM
FMA is a really great manga! Shame the anime isn't quite as good...
I once again purpose my idea of the ultimate team of win:
Gai+Franky+Armstrong, who could stand before them?
Captain Pimp
09-22-2007, 10:00 PM
For a second, I thought Hohenheim was going to kill Izumi :sag
forkandspoon
10-08-2007, 01:24 AM
I hope this chapter we get to see Mustang finally planning to overthrow the government...
carnage
10-08-2007, 10:20 AM
He didnt overthrow the government in the anime though right? he just killed the humonculei furhor
Taxman
10-08-2007, 10:46 AM
stop trying to compare it to the anime at this point....they are going to end differently
but btw...after he killed the fuhrer in the anime, they developed a democracy
forkandspoon
10-08-2007, 10:03 PM
stop trying to compare it to the anime at this point....they are going to end differently
but btw...after he killed the fuhrer in the anime, they developed a democracy
So you don't think Mustang is going to try and take out the fuhrer? With all these humuncolus running around characters like scar, Ed, AL, Izumi, and Mustang all have to take one out. I know your be like "you dont know that now shut up before i call your mother" But this manga follows the same rules of all manga... first we learn about something then we watch it die.
Taxman
10-08-2007, 10:13 PM
Roy already took out Lust...:sag
Roy cares more about Envy who he's still needs to realize is the one that killed Hughes...if he's going to kill any of the other humonculi, it's going to be envy.
people have been saying that Ling will over come his greed side and take out Bradley for what he did to Ran Fan....
Yeah, I can't wait til Mustang finds out Envy killed Hughes.
forkandspoon
10-08-2007, 11:40 PM
If any humonculus would survive it would be Envy, Humonculus are tortured by their existence and since Envy killed Hughes and did numerous other evil deeds (enjoying them all) , death would be to easy for him and will most likely he will end up stuck somewhere for eternity.
YamiHikari
10-09-2007, 01:15 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows the next release date. It's like second Tuesday or second Thursday when we get it, but when is it supposed to be released? Thanks.
carnage
10-09-2007, 01:19 PM
did winry and al have sex in the manga yet
carnage
10-09-2007, 01:38 PM
haha spaz yeah good one lol.
I meant have winry and edward had any sexual relations yet even a simple kiss?
nope nothing just that i think ed knows that he likes her now
carnage
10-09-2007, 01:50 PM
shes going to be killed in the manga
...what makes you think that? shes really not in any danger
carnage
10-09-2007, 01:54 PM
one of the humonculei will get her
I doubt it that would be dumb to kill her off since she really hasn't done anything wrong and shes to innocent.
erictheking
10-09-2007, 02:56 PM
I haven't read any recent replies in this thread for fear of spoilers, so is chapter 76 scanlated out?
Taxman
10-09-2007, 03:28 PM
no...........don't even expect the raw for another day or so
carnage
10-09-2007, 03:52 PM
could probably find the raw somewhere on japanese p2p programs
Buster
10-09-2007, 04:00 PM
I just started watching it, it's good. Nice sense of humor and action. But how many episodes does it have? Also is Full Metal Panic the sequel or something?
erictheking
10-09-2007, 04:05 PM
OK. I never look at RAW's anyway, especially not for something I've been waiting a month for.
Roy already took out Lust...:sag
Roy cares more about Envy who he's still needs to realize is the one that killed Hughes...if he's going to kill any of the other humonculi, it's going to be envy.
people have been saying that Ling will over come his greed side and take out Bradley for what he did to Ran Fan....
IMO Ling/Greed shouldn't be strong enough to kill Bradley. I mean remembering back to how badly he beat the last Greed..
I just started watching it, it's good. Nice sense of humor and action. But how many episodes does it have? Also is Full Metal Panic the sequel or something?
This is the thread where we discuss the manga. You saw the Full Metal Alchemist anime; you can go to discuss it here.
FMA Anime Subforum (http://forums.narutofan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34)
And Full Metal Panic is a completely original anime, unrelated to Full Metal Alchemist.
Buster
10-09-2007, 05:05 PM
This is the thread where we discuss the manga. You saw the Full Metal Alchemist anime; you can go to discuss it here.
FMA Anime Subforum (http://forums.narutofan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34)
And Full Metal Panic is a completely original anime, unrelated to Full Metal
Oops my bad, sorry.:(
Nagasumi
10-11-2007, 09:29 AM
The raw for chapter 76 is out now.
Fullmetal Alchemist 76 RAW (http://rapidshare.com/files/61794900/FullMetal_Alchemist_76_Raw.zip.html)
carnage
10-11-2007, 10:55 AM
hmmm Not that great of a chapter really
forkandspoon
10-11-2007, 11:52 AM
hmmm Not that great of a chapter really
Well a good chapter for you means Ed and Winry getting it on.
Bah, MH is always too slow to update :arg
Here's a sendspace link http://www.sendspace.com/file/nc8mgq
@lk3mizt
10-11-2007, 01:29 PM
^ thank you!!
Jetstorm
10-11-2007, 01:32 PM
Oh thanks for the Raw! :whoo
My reaction to this chapter is basically OH SHI-
carnage
10-11-2007, 04:15 PM
Well a good chapter for you means Ed and Winry getting it on.
Or at least something i didnt expect has to happen for a good chapter for me
El Torero
10-11-2007, 07:17 PM
LoL, Absalom from One Piece, and one guy of the movie of the Planet of the Monkeys are attacking Ed
Botzu
10-11-2007, 07:52 PM
so is the FMA manga alot different then the anime?
yeah and its alot better to
Dr. Hiluruk
10-11-2007, 08:32 PM
EEEEEEED~! D-=
when i saw him there with the pole i shat bricks.
Supa Swag
10-12-2007, 01:03 AM
so is the FMA manga alot different then the anime?
So much so you may as well start from the beginning.
@lk3mizt
10-12-2007, 01:46 AM
oh noes! Ed! :arg
erictheking
10-12-2007, 02:13 PM
Sendspace (http://www.sendspace.com/file/gu2ll6) || Rapidshare (http://rapidshare.com/files/62092015/FMA_76_By_Serpent_Lord.zip)
Finally out. Can't wait to read this chapter, having to avoid spoilers left, right & center to get here. :P
@lk3mizt
10-12-2007, 02:17 PM
^ you're the best!!
erictheking
10-12-2007, 02:24 PM
Argh, the Sendspace link is downloading devilishly slow for me. :arg
EDIT: Rapidshare mirror updated. Much faster.
It was a alright chapter though there was kinda lots of useless talking going on, but at the end I wouldn't be surprised if someone ends up saving Ed.
Nagasumi
10-12-2007, 02:40 PM
Thanks for the scanlation!
Here's a mirror http://rapidshare.com/files/62088555/FMA_76_By_Serpent_Lord.zip.html
erictheking
10-12-2007, 03:21 PM
Decent chapter, we got near confirmation that Hoenheim is the Sage of the East.
The ending was crazy .. Ed is in some shit ! I don't see Xing's alchemy being good enough to fix that. :arg ... only one solution. Full body auto-mail to make him the real Full Metal Alchemist! :LOS
Pintsize
10-13-2007, 12:08 AM
Kimbley: man of a million trump cards
@lk3mizt
10-13-2007, 03:16 AM
i'm surprised no one is talking about Ed's connection with Al's soul. :confused
Zarquon
10-13-2007, 10:43 AM
Wow, I know some homunculi who are not going to be happy with these recent developments.
The only one I can imagine saving him is pride, no one else would be able (in a realistic way) to get there in time, unless Ed landed on top of the philospher's stone and it magically keeps him alive.
Ed and Al are probably connected because Ed used him self to bind his brothers soul to the armor.
angel333
10-13-2007, 03:45 PM
This is one of the best FMA chapters, In my opinion anyway. Arakawa set this up awhile back with showing Ed seeing two doors when he got out of Glutony's stomic and Showing Al's body there. Thinking on it, and knowing that Al's is connected to Ed's and getting it's nutriatiants, and such it requires from Ed, it makes real sence that if Ed dies, Al's body/soul would also be affected in some manner. The Humuculi will not be happy with Kimbly since he would be taking two of their sacrifices which would really slow down their progress. I also wonder who will be the one to find him (and more then likely save his life). Scars group would be my guess but we'll have to wait until the next chapter. It is going to be a really long wait till next month cause I want to know what happens to Ed now but that is not going to happen.
The Sentry
10-13-2007, 04:11 PM
Stupid Naive Ed serves him right for not killing when he had the chance. Hopefully his mind has been changed and he will kill Kimbley
Hes one of those characters though that doesn't really kill but more beat up to win.
The Sentry
10-13-2007, 04:36 PM
Yup and that is his downfall. Ed is an idiot.
Wuzzman
10-13-2007, 04:37 PM
well...Ed has made a funny step toward ruthless killing machine and not idealistic kid. In the end Ed needs to get owned hard, like he did now, for that transition to happen.
Blind Itachi
10-15-2007, 02:45 PM
whoa... what will happen next!?... :arg...
Taxman
10-17-2007, 02:51 AM
TMI scanlation: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O63OKT4I
Sirius
10-21-2007, 03:19 AM
Does anybody know what manga chapter the anime and manga start to go on different paths?
Just read from chapter 1 its a lot easier that way.
Halcyon Dreamz
10-21-2007, 03:31 AM
Eh..stupid cliffhanger. Its a good one though, I wish this werent a monthly :cry
Sirius
10-21-2007, 03:33 AM
Just read from chapter 1 its a lot easier that way.
Yea thats what i've been doing, up to like 29 now and it all still seems pretty much the same.
Its good to see it over again than it doesn't get confusing a little later on.
Taxman
10-21-2007, 03:41 AM
you won't be thinking that way by the end of 30...:sag
Halcyon Dreamz
10-21-2007, 03:49 AM
I heard that this manga is ending really soon. That a fact?
I have no idea doesn't really feel like it will end any time soon.
omg laser pew pew!
10-22-2007, 02:34 AM
I think Ed uses the Stone that Kimbley dropped...somehow
@lk3mizt
10-22-2007, 03:04 AM
I think Ed uses the Stone that Kimbley dropped...somehow
ah, i forgot about that stone! i hope he uses it! :nod
Kira U. Masaki
10-25-2007, 01:25 AM
is there an fma pimping project section, id like to start reading this one again
Taxman
10-25-2007, 01:42 AM
yes...there's an FMA pimping project...you'll just have to request to join the outskirts trading post membership
Kilowog
10-25-2007, 02:41 AM
Stupid Naive Ed serves him right for not killing when he had the chance. Hopefully his mind has been changed and he will kill Kimbley
I still expect/hope that it's Scar who kille Kimble, though after his recent conversation with Winry I wonder if he'd still go for the idea.
Does anybody know what manga chapter the anime and manga start to go on different paths?
They split roughly around volume 7. Although parts of volume 11 are used in the anime. But the manga is definitely seperate when the Xingians are introduced in volume 8
Roy Mustang
11-04-2007, 08:22 PM
why does it take so long for the chapter releases :arg
Taxman
11-04-2007, 08:28 PM
because the magazine it's published in only comes out once a month....:oh
Roy Mustang
11-04-2007, 08:30 PM
man i cant wait tht long :cry
omaruchiha36
11-04-2007, 10:28 PM
FMa is really good like naruto but it really short
Kilowog
11-04-2007, 10:37 PM
so by when should FMA 77 be out?
Around the 10th-12th of each month.
forkandspoon
11-06-2007, 11:10 AM
This chapter will probably have Ed and Al at the gate.
Life n Discovery
11-06-2007, 07:36 PM
FMa is really good like naruto but it really short
Naruto's been on a messed up streak now.
omaruchiha36
11-06-2007, 10:21 PM
really good show. in my top 3
Taxman
11-06-2007, 10:38 PM
this is the thread about the manga...not the anime.
El Torero
11-09-2007, 07:55 AM
The next chapter shall go out next week, I guess...
Roy Mustang
11-09-2007, 06:19 PM
The next chapter shall go out next week, I guess...
I hope ...
Sasori-puppet#66
11-10-2007, 11:17 PM
Full Metal Alchemist is one of my favorite animes of all time. I've loved it for about a year now and I don't care what anybody thinks. It's one of the best.
Taxman
11-10-2007, 11:21 PM
then go to the anime subforum....this thread is for the manga...<__<
Jetstorm
11-11-2007, 04:36 AM
Caught back up and I must say that Ed's soft heart really cost him here. Not to mention that rod in his body. :D:
Also from the looks of things Al is linked to Ed. I guess that would make sense since he used his blood for the seal in Al's armor.
*Is probably very late in stating the obvious* :D:
Torrent~
[Raw-Manga] Fullmetal Alchemist 77 (http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=28050&name=%5BRaw-Manga%5D%20Fullmetal%20Alchemist%2077.torrent)
Blaze of Glory
11-11-2007, 11:47 AM
I can't wait to see what happens to Ed!
Man, and I hope somebody kills Kimbley. Still can't believe Ed didn't finish him off.
Sendspace for the raw: http://www.sendspace.com/file/y74l1c
Dr. Hiluruk
11-11-2007, 01:29 PM
HERRAY~! SLOTH AND PRIDE~! =3
can't wait fer translations.
YamiHikari
11-12-2007, 04:03 AM
Translation: http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21355
Thanks Manga Helpers
@lk3mizt
11-12-2007, 04:11 AM
Translation: http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21355
Thanks Manga Helpers
thanks!! :knk
isanon
11-12-2007, 05:20 AM
is father dying :huh (reffering to the "hurry" part)
but then he says that the day of reconing is comming :headscrat
could it be that he only want to kill aretmis because trisha was an aretmisan ??
Thanks for the raw but I will wait for a scan for this manga :P
Blind Itachi
11-12-2007, 01:46 PM
This chapter wasn't really long or insightful... but it's perfect to set the events that are about to happen... i can't wait for the next one...
Nagasumi
11-12-2007, 01:55 PM
A scanlation by FH is out now:
http://www.franky-house.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1015
is father dying :huh (reffering to the "hurry" part)
but then he says that the day of reconing is comming :headscrat
could it be that he only want to kill aretmis because trisha was an aretmisan ??
I don't quite get this post of yours, Father never Knew trisha, ever.
That was Hohenheim, Father isnt interested in Humans at all, When we say "Father" What we should be saying is "Homunulous" He just looks like Hohneheim becuase he was created from his blood and decided he should look the part too. This is what I understand from it anyway.
A scanlation by FH is out now:
http://www.franky-house.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1015
Nice one! Waiting for that =D, fanks!
Yamato
11-12-2007, 02:37 PM
I wonder what can scare Kimbley if that wasn't enough.
Omg chapters out thanks for the link :D
Roy Mustang
11-12-2007, 05:23 PM
new chapter lacks Mustangness, but its still win, its getting really exciting now
i wonder what a combination of the rentaijutsus or something, and alchemy will create
Kilowog
11-12-2007, 06:15 PM
this chapter seemed too short, but it did pique my interest for what comes next
Yamato
11-13-2007, 04:07 AM
One of the possibilities is using the giant transmutation circle created by Sloth for their own purpose.
ydraliskos
11-13-2007, 07:20 AM
this chapter seemed too short, but it did pique my interest for what comes next
No, it really was too short, at 32 pages =/
Series probably ending, and the climax is the Briggs showdown
General Mustang
11-13-2007, 08:01 AM
Oh yay new chapter out :D
RockLee
11-13-2007, 10:41 AM
For fear of getting spoiled, I've not read the thread. I'm still DLing the scan (thanks FH!).
This is my favorite manga thus far, standing heads and shoulders above my current readings, which are the Shounen Trinity (Naruto, Bleach, One Piece). It easily stands on par with the likes of Death Note, which was excellently written, and Berserk, which is a great, grim, grisly epic tale.
It combines the best of the Shounen Trinity and does stereotypes better than any of the other mangas that I have read. The art is superb. While I really like Bleach's stylized art, I'm amazed at the research that the writer (forgot her name! Shame) put into human anatomy.
I know that every artist must have at least a rudimentary understanding of the human body, but she goes above and beyond, giving her characters as sense of realism while giving her art a very distinct and stylized flavor. Individual details, like being able to see the ribcage poking through taught skin, to the rippling of a muscle, to the contour of a face or the carcass of a regenerating Sin, it's all meticulously detailed. See Lust's death.
The writing is also excellent, with good pacing, and well placed backstories for each of the characters. She assembles a large cast, across all strata of society and keeps bringing back characters in relevant ways. All of them, except for the very, very minor characters, like joke Yuki, have a developed personality, far more than most other mangas can claim. Naruto also assembles a large cast, but a myopic focus on Sasuke, Naruto, and, for the moment, Pein and Madara have undone all of the great progress found in Part 1. FMA has done none of this, constantly evolving characters and changing their roles when needed in an elegant and natural manner. Winry went form being the standard female support, pretty but not much else, with a fiery attitude, to a character that has challenges and overcomes them, with geniune worries and cleverness that surfaces at the appropriate times (her escape with Scar). And Scar! Look at him. Much more than the faith-driven assassin we knew back in the early days, his backstory and motivations give him depth, even if he does remain, at his core, that assassin.
And powerups. That standard that Shonen must include in one form or another, and is terribly implemented. DB's sequel, DBZ, stands as a warning to mangaka of the danger of mindlessly introducing power levels, transformations, and massively increasing the power of the heros and villains. One Piece has managed to become more ridiculous as time goes on, but everything in there is ridiculous, so it saves itself. It's never taken itself seriously in terms of powers, trying out everything under the sun. Naruto is walking a fine line, where it's close to stupidity (Sasuke) but still on the sane side of things. Bleach is suffering from DBZ effects (Shikai, Bankai, now Hollowfication).
The fights in FMA are handled elegantly, with each blow dealing real damage to an opponent. Stabbing someone significantly slows them down, if it doesn't bring them down and out outright. In the case of the Sins, thanks to the regeneration, they can take punishment over and over. But it is still handled well; they can also be killed, or defeated, if they are pummeled strategically, like Greed, Lust, or Gluttony.
Characters that were strong in the beginning are still strong now, and they've just become cleverer in the method of their attacks, not just outright stronger. The recent upgrade we've seen in the human chimeras, but those seem to be rare and a replacement for the cannon fodder soldiers.
From storyline, to art, to the handling of stereotypes, FMA has done a superb job juggling them all. I would write more on certain things I left out, like the nature of the power ups implemented and other things, but I should study. : p
*Berserk handled it's powerup rather well, I thought. The Berserk Armor certainly gives Gutts a boost, but the aftereffects and the, hell, the effects during battle are painful to watch. I seem to recall the armor putting shards of metal into his broken body in order to set his bones and allow him to keep fighting, with the cost of being in hideous pain and bleeding from most every pore. And the giant cuts in his body.
Oh, and losing his physical senses. That's a big one.
erictheking
11-16-2007, 06:03 PM
Nice breakdown. ¬_¬
This chapter seems to signal a near ending of the manga. :( Here's to hoping that doesn't happen soon.
Mattaru
11-16-2007, 09:19 PM
Excellent Post RockLee!
I'm starting to download FMA manga too after reading your post.
I've put FMA above the shounen trinity but below my favourite beloved HxH.
Looking forward to reading this, I really really enjoyed the anime. And yes, the mangaka did her research on the human parts.
Can't wait to see short-ass in action again.
Bleach
11-28-2007, 10:36 PM
Can sum1 tell me where I should start from @_@? I finished the anime and i know it strayed from the manga alot. But where should i start now @_@?
Just start from the first chapter.
Harley Quinn
11-28-2007, 10:45 PM
To be honest, I would start from the beginning.
Sawako
11-28-2007, 11:43 PM
Yeah, just read from chapter 1. You can never have too much FMA.
Bleach
11-29-2007, 05:58 PM
Ok ill do that I guess xD
thanks
YamiHikari
12-09-2007, 02:18 AM
Bump/Does anyone know the release date for the next chapter? I know it's usually around the second week of the month.
Taxman
12-09-2007, 02:22 AM
at the latest...tomorrow
YamiHikari
12-10-2007, 03:42 PM
Still waiting for the next chapter. But in the meantime, Volume 18 Cover is out. And Ed is looking a little anorexic.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4920/04ut9.jpg
Yamato
12-10-2007, 03:58 PM
Crimson sure looks nice in that white suit
El Torero
12-11-2007, 05:11 AM
Still waiting for the next chapter. But in the meantime, Volume 18 Cover is out. And Ed is looking a little anorexic.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4920/04ut9.jpg
Who is that shadow? :awesome
Yamato
12-11-2007, 05:16 AM
Pride :awesome
James
12-11-2007, 07:26 PM
Damn, no raw yet? Well I guess the average is usually around the 12th.
Still wish this manga was more popular considering how hugely popular the anime is and the fact the manga's storyline kicks its ass completely. I guess the monthly release stops people from being able to discuss it as much though.
Kilowog
12-12-2007, 03:27 AM
Still waiting for the next chapter. But in the meantime, Volume 18 Cover is out. And Ed is looking a little anorexic.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4920/04ut9.jpg
Briggs gives what you need to work and live not what you want :vegetant
also any raws out yet?
Taxman
12-12-2007, 03:33 AM
no...stop asking. It'll be out when it's out.
ydraliskos
12-12-2007, 07:20 AM
delete your own reply too then you nazi because it serves no other reason than to answer to "spam/agony"
mod oppression rah rah rabble rabble
Moridin
12-12-2007, 07:22 AM
ooh oppression :3
nice volume cover, quite a bit going on in there
ydraliskos
12-12-2007, 07:25 AM
Yeah basically I'm just bored, I'm not getting oppressed or anything for real, taxman don't be mad at me
Also, we're at 18 volumes already eh.. Didn't think FMA would get that far, and it's kind of disappointing. I was thinking about buying the whole series for some time now, but at 18 volumes and climbing, it's getting out budget reach fast.
Moridin
12-12-2007, 07:32 AM
taxman don't be mad at me
I'll hold him back!
I was thinking about buying the whole series for some time now, but at 18 volumes and climbing, it's getting out budget reach fast.
Yeah, spiralling costs put many manga series out of my reach D: FMA will definately be in my list for purchase once I have a bit more money though.
Yamato
12-12-2007, 08:02 AM
I still prefer digital scans which remain in the same quality for ages, are easy to segregate, won't be destroyed by reading them or coffee, etc etc.
Digital world FTW :)
Moridin
12-12-2007, 08:31 AM
what if you spill coffee onto your computer and damage it beyond repair thus losing your digital scans eh :yell
Yamato
12-12-2007, 08:58 AM
Got regular DVD backups of everything I do, I need to since I use it for work, no problems. However buying a second copy of volume is quite expensive.
El Torero
12-12-2007, 12:39 PM
*sigh* Raw is coming very late this month :arg
I wonder in what chapter will FMA finish. It would be very awesome that the manga finishes in chapter 100 :awesome
I hear Viz makes a lot of mistakes in the translations later on though. Like I remember one where Ed calls Al "Ed!"
Snow Princess
12-13-2007, 03:14 AM
The anime is simply amazing all I can say, though the ending wasn't fulfilling. now I'm reading the manga.. hopefully I'd enjoy it too!
James
12-13-2007, 04:18 AM
Just remember to have an open mind right from the beginning and disregard almost all plot details of the anime from your mind.
YamiHikari
12-13-2007, 03:52 PM
Yes, they're two separate stories. Don't expect to find the satisfying ending the the anime! Expect to be blown away by something much greater.
No in all seriousness don't expect anything, and forget all you think you know. Then take a look, you'll like it a look better I promise.
Shuntensatsu
12-13-2007, 06:46 PM
The anime is simply amazing all I can say, though the ending wasn't fulfilling. now I'm reading the manga.. hopefully I'd enjoy it too!
The manga shits all over the anime. There really is no better way to put it. It is infinitely better.
Nagasumi
12-14-2007, 02:32 AM
FMA 78 RAW:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jx7f27
@lk3mizt
12-14-2007, 02:47 AM
thanks!! :WOW
Yamato
12-14-2007, 03:08 AM
Now we just need translation :)
Elijah Snow
12-14-2007, 03:09 AM
Man, I'm like 2 chapters behind. I gotta catch up soon.
El Torero
12-14-2007, 04:21 AM
Hohenheim meeting Roze :wtf And it looks like Envy is going to enter in action in next chapters
carnage
12-14-2007, 08:55 AM
Is the manga like a prequel in any way?
Dr. Hiluruk
12-14-2007, 10:14 AM
in absolutely no way whatsoever. =o~!
El Torero
12-14-2007, 02:54 PM
I shall leave you the translation :zaru
01
Sidetext: In the explosion, Kimblee disappeared. Also, Ed...!!
Buccaneer: Did I hear right, Kimblee's gone missing?
Miles: Yup.
The blast took out the whole mine.
Kimblee and several others are unaccounted for.
We've been searching ten days and have yet to recover any bodies.
Buccaneer: Hm ... are the "several others" Briggs soldiers?
Miles: They're Kimblee's two henchmen, and
the Fullmetal Alchemist.
02-03
Banner text: We're still on the move!!
This is our strength!!
It's beyond compare!!
FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST CHAPTER 78: The Seven Sins
04
Breda: Is that right...
If the Fullmetal Boss is okay, that's good...
Falman: How are things out West?
Breda: Getting nasty on the Pendleton border.
It's like they're just trying to rack up as many dead as possible, win or lose.
Look, Falman.
It's just like you said, the army charges in, carves everything up and constructs that transmutation circle.
Falman: Have you heard anything from Master Sergeant Fuery in the south?
Breda: We spoke on the phone a little while ago.
05
Breda: He's being shelled by Aerugo and Donbachi troops from the south.
Because we're the bad boys from Mustang's old team
we've been scattered away from our old haunts.
Fuery: Thomas! Hurry hurry!
Quit napping!
Thoma...
06
Fuery: Shit...
Goddamnit!!
I'm gonna make it!!
I'm totally gonna make iiiit!!
Falman: It's bound to be brutal over there, it's another part of the circle.
Good that he's okay too, though.
Breda: Has the Colonel made contact?
Falman: Yes.
He's been getting valuable information from a contact in the Armstrong family.
Breda: I see.
I've got a really bad feeling about the North.
07
Falman: Really bad ... sounds about right.
If the Homunculi aren't stopped from digging that hole right underneath us...
...we could be too late.
Sloth: Ngh?
08
Sloth: Done
it.
Now
can I
quit working, Pride?
09
Rose: Eat up, everyone!
Randomer: Oh!
Rose: Please line up!
Chef: Save me a place.
Customer: I'd like some meat pie this time, Rose.
Rose: It's my own recipe.
Customer: Great!
Old woman: I'm afraid I don't work, but can these children have some too?
Rose: Of course.
For you too, ma'am.
10
Customer: A big bowlful please, Rose-chan.
Rose: No can do. Everyone gets the same.
Hoenheim: Um...
Excuse me...
Me too ... please ...?
Phew, I'm saved!
Thank you!
11
Chef: Where'd you come from?
Hoenheim: I couldn't tell you.
Here and there. I wander about a lot.
Rose: How did you end up in this place...?
Hoenheim: You really want to know?
There's no road to Reole after the insurrection before.
But that doesn't mean there's nothing here.
There's very pleasant food here, for one thing.
Thank you, young lady. That was delicious.
I'm happy to have eaten here.
Rose: Sorry we couldn't offer more...
Hoenheim: No need to be so modest.
The good food and your smiling face seems to give everyone strength.
12
Hoenheim: Since you're so helpful can I ask one more thing?
I'm looking for the church, you see..
Rose: The church?
Hoenheim: Yes. The headquarters of Leto's followers, where the insurrection began.
Rose: In that case...
it's over there.
Hoenheim: ...what's that?
Rose: The alchemist that exposed Leto's priests as frauds transmuted that statue.
13
Chef: It's a major attraction on that street now, like he planned it.
Hoenheim: Uu~~m
Who made that thing? They can't have had very good taste...
Chef: Everything inside that was usable has probably been taken by now.
No one comes in here any more.
Hoenheim: Is there a cellar passage around here?
Rose: No, it's over this way.
The cellar passage...
I know it's around here somewhere...
14
Hoenheim: And this is...?
Rose: A poisoned reservoir.
This is the reason no one comes inside.
Hoenheim: Hmph.
So no ordinary human's crossed this since back then?
Well now.
Rose: !?
Hold...
Chef: Idiot!!
You'll die if you fall in there!!
15
Chef: It's a miracle...
Rose: No, it's alchemy ... isn't it?
Hoenheim: could I ask you to wait inside for me?
16
Hoenheim: I'm afraid there's no way you can come with me.
O~oh.
It's big.
And really well constructed.
17
Hoenheim: ... that was quick.
18
Hoenheim: Uwah!!
Wah!!
---there!!
Ma~an.
Can't you stay put?
19
Hoenheim: How about if I seal you in.
My, my...
20
Hoenheim: Looks like I lose.
Huh?
Yow!
21
Hoenheim: What's wrong?
Not coming any further?
22
Hoenheim: Hmm?
Pride: That form...
Van Hoenheim?
Hoenheim: Somehow it seems this is as far as you can come.
Would you die if you left this place...?
Is there a prescribed line outside which you'll die?
Just like the flask from back then.
You can't move except in this tunnel, and the heart of Central City.
Am I close?
23
Pride: ...
Hoenheim: Dead on, right?
Say something, you big recluse.
Are you mad?
Pride: Wrath and the like
do not exist inside me.
There is no wrath
or lust
or sloth
or greed
or gluttony
or envy...
Such emotions have fled from my Father.
My name is "Pride".
24
Hoenheim: I see.
"Pride," was it?
People have seven sins.
"Lust"; "Greed"; "Sloth"; "Gluttony"; "Envy"; "Wrath";
and finally "Pride".
At the beginning he cut you from himself...
calling you his "Pride".
Forgive me, but he's fashioned your form to resemble his from his time in the flask.
I'd say the name expresses the appearance.
He had fierce pride in that form.
Like Father, like son.
25
Pride: Are you saying you want to see Father?
Hoenheim: There's no hurry.
I'll come, whether or not I'm called.
Tell him something.
Slave number 23 is coming to see him.
He should try not to get too comfortable waiting in Central.
Okay?
26
Pride: Yes.
Father: I shall wait
Van Hoenheim.
27
Rose: !
Chef: He's coming back!
Find anything?
Hoenheim: Yep.
It'd be good if no normal people try and approach this.
Let them know how dangerous it is, if you would.
Rose: Why did you want to go inside there?
Hoenheim: I suppose
to declare war.
28
Soldier: Shift change.
Soldier 2: Wait up! This snowstorm's really bad.
Soldier: Right, I'm off for some of that terrible coffee.
Soldier 2: I'm bushed ... huh?
Soldier: Hey...
Soldier 2: No way...
29-30
Soldier: Wha...
Drachma have declared open hostilities from the north!!
Miles: They finally turned up...
We'll see huge losses from each side on this ground.
Buccaneer: But why the hurry?
Briggs is impenetrable, surely the Drachman army knows that.
Miles: ...
31
Drachman General: Our thanks for the intel concerning the absence of the "Northern Cliff of Briggs"
Master Kimblee.
32
Kimblee: The hands that caused all this are inside that fortress.
Let us begin the battle while those inside are still in disarray from my betrayal.
General: Huff...
Amestris is fighting in the south and west. War is exhausting business.
For eternity Briggs has stood in the way of Drachma. Today we shall capture it.
Kimblee: Yes, this is a declaration of war.
These are no mere flashy fireworks.
33
May: Which! Means!
Rentanjutsu is all about reading the flow of the Dragon's Veins!!
Why don't you get it!!
Clear and sharpen your senses...
Like this!
Al: I can't!!
May: Sure you can!! Go - PA~~~T VA~~~T!!
Al: Teach me the theory first!!
Scar: Sorry for imposing while we hide out.
Villager: What are you on about?
Aren't we both Ishvarun?
34
Villager: You saved us just by bringing a doctor here.
And brought playmates for the kids.
Yoki: Sto ... stop doing that!!
What's that damn Zanpano doing? It's his turn to play!
Chimera guy: He went to get supplies.
Zanpano: I've brought something useful.
Yes, that's right.
My name is Zanpano.
I'm Kimblee's subordinate.
Scar and...
a man claiming to be Doctor Marcoh are in Usbeck to the north. Perfect for an ambush.
35
Envy: Okay, Zanpano.
We guarantee your safety.
How many times have I told you!
Hahaa!! I'm gonna have me some fun!
Sidetext: This is an information leak!? Next issue, the Homunculi draw near!!!
Is the manga like a prequel in any way?
you've got to be kidding me.
YamiHikari
12-14-2007, 06:07 PM
Rose!
Thanks for the trans and the raw!
Short chapter, but definately full of win!
Taxman
12-14-2007, 07:05 PM
Is the manga like a prequel in any way?
if you actually read it...you would know...
I'm going to recommend that you stop posting in here until you actually do read it...:sag
James
12-14-2007, 07:55 PM
Is the manga like a prequel in any way?
Manga is the original story the anime is based on. Anime team decided early on to go their own way and only used a certain amount of manga storyline then made their own ending and changed a lot of the plot. The manga is still going but near the end.
Nagasumi
12-14-2007, 09:00 PM
Scanlation by FH is out:
FMA 78 (http://www.franky-house.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1364)
Rose: Why did you want to go inside there?
Hohenheim: I suppose... to declare war.
:wtf
Kilowog
12-14-2007, 10:51 PM
Good chapter better than the previous one. Nice to resee Rose and Lior for the first time since the beginning. Also Hohenhime was badass, Pride got bitch slapped. Also next couple chapters are going to be awesome, finally see more Briggs badassness.
Nice chapters out now I just need to go and read it lol.
Blind Itachi
12-14-2007, 11:28 PM
Hoenhe... i mean... Slave number 23 owns...
Roy Mustang
12-15-2007, 01:38 PM
pride got owned by a slave...wow
Elijah Snow
12-15-2007, 10:38 PM
Caught up today. Good shit is going down.
Volken
12-16-2007, 12:24 AM
Hoenhe... i mean... Slave number 23 owns...
quoted for the truth. Hoenheim isn't afraid of any homunculus.
And Kimblee has really started to get on my nerves in the recent chapters.
omg laser pew pew!
12-16-2007, 01:06 AM
No Olivier or Greed
Fail despite the great other stuff
I've been so overwhelmed with work and school, I forgot about this new chapter.
Anyways, I didn't expect to see Rose again, but that was a pleasant surprise. It was also nice to see Mustang's team, minus Havoc. Pride got completely owned by Hohenheim there. Besides that, it was an alright chapter, its more of preparing it for the next few chapters instead since everyone is now declaring war on each other.
Pretty interesting chapter at least we got to see van hoemin or w.e hes called use his powers lol.
angel333
01-03-2008, 09:29 PM
This was a great chapter. I can't wait to see what happens with the next chapters. I want to see how this all plays out in the end.
El Torero
01-10-2008, 12:17 PM
Ey guyz. Does the ''not Naruto/Bleach/D-Grayman/Reborn!/Eyeshield...etc this week'' affect Fullmetal Alchemist too?
Taxman
01-10-2008, 03:42 PM
^no...FMA is published in Gangan monthly and not Shonen Jump.
Freiza
01-10-2008, 04:15 PM
hoemin better use some super ultra nice shit....
El Torero
01-12-2008, 08:15 AM
Well, we´ll have the raw between today and the Monday.
I hope more advancement by Ed´s part. In last chapters, Hohenheim was the character which plot developed more
I hope more advancement by Edīs part. In last chapters, Hohenheim was the character which plot developed more
I was thinking that too. :P
Goodfellow
01-12-2008, 08:28 AM
hoemin better use some super ultra nice shit....
Yeah, it seems like the trend among immortals is either to become the vilest depraved creature imaginable, or realize that giving people cookies makes them like you:zaru
Yeah, still no raw out, but I did find some Japanese spoilers and the title for the chapter is "An Ant Biting a Person". There was a long summary that there was no way I could have translated, but based on the names I could read,
Envy and Marcoh do a lot in this chapter apparently. Their names showed up in the summary more than any other.
El Torero
01-12-2008, 03:46 PM
Envy doing a lot of stuff in this chapter was predictable since the last page of last chapter. And well, I´m starting to see Marcoh dead in the manga too :cry. Well, it isn´t strange since Marcoh was a captive of Envy
Volken
01-12-2008, 11:44 PM
FMA 79 RAW out!
150 dpi:
MegaUpload (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K0CX6UL7)
MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/?fbhht3gtckc)
Sendspace (http://www.sendspace.com/file/wekagc)
300 dpi:
Sendspace (http://www.sendspace.com/file/5tsers)
kakoishii
01-12-2008, 11:52 PM
how long till a scanlation is out?
Taxman
01-13-2008, 12:04 AM
days......
What's the dpi mean? Is it just the size of the pages or something?
Volken
01-13-2008, 12:13 AM
What's the dpi mean? Is it just the size of the pages or something?
Dots per inch. It's the number of colored dots in an inch. Higher DPIs are clearer and more detailed.
Holy shit, I love this manga.
Marcoh killing Envy was something I never would have seen coming, but was still so awesome. I had hoped Mustang would have confronted Envy at least once due to him killing Hughes and all, but eh. Though I guess Envy technically isn't dead since that fish thingy is still alive.
how long till a scanlation is out?
Next week sometime.
Btw guys, Hoeinheim is an official badass. It's too bad the immortal-invincible types are always the "I'll only lend my power when it's absolutely needed" type :(
(Still discussing last chapter, since I'm too lazy to spoiler tag for discussing RAW :awesome)
El Torero
01-13-2008, 05:22 AM
Hell yeah. Envy was hardly pwned!
Itīs over. Marcoh won the manga in this month
Gaelek_13
01-13-2008, 10:55 AM
Envy was defeated...holy crap! I can honestly say I wasn't expecting that! I guess he's either dead or seriously weakened given that there's the little fish thing at the end. Perhaps Envy lives but his stone is almost completely drained much like how Gluttony's was after Scar got through with him.
Megaharrison
01-13-2008, 01:20 PM
Considering the series seems to be rolling to its climax....
I'd say that this is it for Envy.
Pride, Wrath, Sloth, Greed, and the "new" Gluttony are left.
Gaelek_13
01-13-2008, 03:01 PM
That's true, but I'd have thought he'd have been one of the later ones to kick the bucket...though he didn't hold as much of an importance to Ed as in the Anime (as Greed has a much bigger connection now) Envy's connection was more to Scar - (who got revenge in the end at least, so I guess it's okay for Envy to die now.
Will Gluttony get a new body you reckon or will the story end or something happen to his stone before then? (I didn't Spoiler this bit as it happened ages ago)
El Torero
01-13-2008, 04:13 PM
Here you have the scanlation of chapter 79, from Mangahelpers:
http://rapidshare.com/files/83526582/FMA79.zip
Sunuvmann
01-13-2008, 05:09 PM
HOLY FUCKING FUCK! THAT CHAPTER WAS EPIC!
ENVY OWNED! Holy hell that was amazing. Great way for it to end, Envy a little shrimp. 3 down, 4 more to go (Unless of course they bring Gluttony back into the picture)
The Drachma battle was rather anti-climactic as I'd thought we'd be seeing some Helms Deep but still lol and satisfying.
And I fucking loved how that dude double crossed Envy. And Marcoh's revenge is sweet.
Yamato
01-13-2008, 05:43 PM
Marcoh revenge was pulled out of the ass along with way it was performed. Why hasn't he killed Lust in one of the first chapters or Envy when he kidnapped him. It was easy, just one touch and there is no more of Hummunculi. The whole plan was nice, the way how Envy was tricked and predicted was nice, but the very end was lacking.
What was awesome was Kimbley, but that's natural :D
Sannom
01-13-2008, 06:16 PM
Marcoh revenge was pulled out of the ass along with way it was performed. Why hasn't he killed Lust in one of the first chapters or Envy when he kidnapped him.
Perharps because he didn't have the circle on his hands at that time, this being because he was hiding, not courageous enough to fight the Homonculus. Now he has decided to fight them, that's his real victory here : he fought back.
Volken
01-13-2008, 06:41 PM
Thousand Years of Pain FTW :LOS
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1048/envythousandyearswi1.png
Moridin
01-13-2008, 06:56 PM
holy shit fucking epic xDDD
marcoh finally got the resolve to do things, and the statement about his alchemy evolving really was true
what a great chapter.
a fantastic chapter
thousand years of pain was awesome :D
Sunuvmann
01-13-2008, 07:46 PM
Marcoh revenge was pulled out of the ass along with way it was performed. Why hasn't he killed Lust in one of the first chapters or Envy when he kidnapped him. It was easy, just one touch and there is no more of Hummunculi. The whole plan was nice, the way how Envy was tricked and predicted was nice, but the very end was lacking.
What was awesome was Kimbley, but that's natural :D
Perharps because he didn't have the circle on his hands at that time, this being because he was hiding, not courageous enough to fight the Homonculus. Now he has decided to fight them, that's his real victory here : he fought back.
It could be just like he said, evolved alchemy. Or rather that using the retanjutsu or something or Scar's alchemy he developed a way only recently and having developed that in the time they were doing, it was time for revenge.
Thousand Years of Pain FTW :LOS
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1048/envythousandyearswi1.png
Quoted for lulz.
Lilykt7
01-13-2008, 10:59 PM
that was amazing, I loved how all these characters are slowly coming together and interacting. A billion times better than the anime. Envy being killed by Marcoh (who just leaped way up into the top of my favorite character list) was an awesome scene. Well theres that shrimp which just makes me feel really sad. It's just so vulnerable and it shows that no matter how amazing a homunculous seems it can never beat a real human being. In a fight yea....but you know what I mean.
Detonator_Fan
01-14-2008, 12:18 AM
Marcoh is a badass.
Fucking OWNED
Wuzzman
01-14-2008, 12:28 AM
about time marcoh grew some balls. the Homoculous always had that weakness. Their not human so their flesh is transmutable.
Norli
01-14-2008, 04:58 AM
Which group has the best scans? The one's I get at stoptazmo are terrible in quality.
Volken
01-14-2008, 08:15 AM
Which group has the best scans? The one's I get at stoptazmo are terrible in quality.
I don't know about the ones at stoptazmo, but mangahelpers usually has a bunch of scans that are pretty good.
MuNaZ
01-14-2008, 09:05 AM
:arg why did i took so long to start reading the manga...
Marcoh rules :awesome
Nagasumi
01-14-2008, 09:43 AM
That was a freakin' awesome chapter. Marcoh ftw!
I've never liked Kimblee, though I got to say that he was kind of cool this chapter. Silly Drachma. It would be better had we actually seen the battle, but it was amusing nonetheless.
Springlake
01-14-2008, 11:49 AM
2 Homonculus down, 6 to go :LOS
Blind Itachi
01-14-2008, 01:11 PM
ombg... that was some owning served right there... and lol at the true form :lmao...
Curry
01-14-2008, 01:38 PM
I just read the recent chapter. I must say I was pleasantly surprised even if Envy was one of my favourite characters :knk
Volken
01-14-2008, 01:55 PM
Because of the amount of damage he's done, it seemed that Envy would be one of the main homunculus and last to die. Pride and Greed will definitely be among the last to die though.
Curry
01-14-2008, 01:57 PM
Well, that's because of their role in the manga..
I like the fact that the author has guts to kill off one of the most popular characters. It makes the manga less predictable.
Volken
01-14-2008, 02:01 PM
Well, that's because of their role in the manga..
I like the fact that the author has guts to kill off one of the most popular characters. It makes the manga less predictable.
Kishi and Kubo could definitely learn a lot from her. Half of the characters should have died by now. :notrust
Curry
01-14-2008, 02:05 PM
Kishi and Kubo could definitely learn a lot from her. Half of the characters should have died by now. :notrust
Definitely. It bugs me when the characters are immortal. It makes the whole read predictable and the manga - shallow.
Kishi and Kubo could definitely learn a lot from her.
Deidara? :oh
Curry
01-14-2008, 02:11 PM
Come on, it was predictable he'd die.
He already escaped death twice D:
If Kishimoto killed one of the Rookies, I'd be very surprised.
Volken
01-14-2008, 02:26 PM
Deidara? :oh
There's one and he's a villain. Of course the villains will end up dying at some point. It's when the good guys die (especially the guys you care about), that it's a surprise.
After living on Naruto and Bleach, I read FMA, and I was very surprised that a character like Hughes, obviously someone well liked, died. When I read FMA, I actually know that any character that I like may die at any point. Whenever Roy is fighting, I think, "Damn, he might die here." It's the same for any character, except for probably Ed and Alphonse.
On the other hand, even when Rukia was impaled on a spear, I knew she wouldn't die, and I doubt many did. I have no doubt in my mind that every good guy in Bleach will survive the Hueco Mundo arc. I can't say the same about FMA.
Come on, it was predictable he'd die.
He already escaped death twice D:
If Kishimoto killed one of the Rookies, I'd be very surprised.
I was just referring to him killing off a popular character. He was more popular than Naruto himself apparently
Blaze of Glory
01-14-2008, 02:55 PM
Poor Envy... :(
Defeated by an old man...
Volken
01-14-2008, 03:03 PM
Poor Envy... :(
Defeated by an old man...
Envy's older than Marcoh :oh
That was an awesome chapter. A bit fast-paced though... but it still did the job. :laugh
I wonder what happened to Ed. and that Xing ninja girl that got an automail...
Blind Itachi
01-14-2008, 05:26 PM
but... Envy is not dead :oh...
he just lost his Philosopher's stone... he has no power at all in that state.. that's why he's crying and tells them to don't look...
Nagasumi
01-14-2008, 05:30 PM
Envy's as good as dead. They could just crush him with their bare hands if they wanted to.
Blind Itachi
01-14-2008, 05:32 PM
he has too much information to let it waste like that...
now.. if we get a Envy rescue arc with Greed and Gluttony's comeback... :LOS
i wonder about that
they'll probably squeeze out all the info they can and then discard envy and destroy him.
maybe marcoh even passed down the info on how to destroy the philosopher stone to al
would be cool
At least now they can take down the Homunculi a lot easier now since they found have the alchemy to do it.
Volken
01-14-2008, 07:59 PM
At least now they can take down the Homunculi a lot easier now since they found have the alchemy to do it.
I kind of want to see them do it the hard way. Seeing Mustang disintegrate Lust with pure force and will was one of the best parts of the manga for me. :amuse
Wuzzman
01-14-2008, 09:17 PM
There's one and he's a villain. Of course the villains will end up dying at some point. It's when the good guys die (especially the guys you care about), that it's a surprise.
After living on Naruto and Bleach, I read FMA, and I was very surprised that a character like Hughes, obviously someone well liked, died. When I read FMA, I actually know that any character that I like may die at any point. Whenever Roy is fighting, I think, "Damn, he might die here." It's the same for any character, except for probably Ed and Alphonse.
On the other hand, even when Rukia was impaled on a spear, I knew she wouldn't die, and I doubt many did. I have no doubt in my mind that every good guy in Bleach will survive the Hueco Mundo arc. I can't say the same about FMA.
Al and Ed won't die at least till the end. The problem with bleach and Naruto is that death too drawn out for no apparent reason. It serves it's purpose but it doesn't happen with the "wham" FMA deaths give you.
Wuzzman
01-14-2008, 09:20 PM
I kind of want to see them do it the hard way. Seeing Mustang disintegrate Lust with pure force and will was one of the best parts of the manga for me. :amuse
Well technically the homoculous can't be tanked down by brute force, well except by pure bad asses like Mustang:P. Marcoh knowledge of the philosopher stone was very believable he would be utter useless plot-wise if all he knew about the philosopher stone was the "human sacrifices = stone" part. And please don't pretend like Marcoh did something new...the homoculous aren't human they can be transmuted.
At least now they can take down the Homunculi a lot easier now since they found have the alchemy to do it.
Yeah, but for people like Pride and Sloth, you still have to get close enough, and those guys would tank you.
I specially can't see anyone holding Wrath down, or beating him physically, in order to do the whole Marcoh-thing.
Blaze of Glory
01-14-2008, 11:28 PM
Envy's older than Marcoh :oh
Whatever
Defeated by a guy with a back problem seriously PATHETIC
Sannom
01-15-2008, 05:56 AM
And please don't pretend like Marcoh did something new...the homoculous aren't human they can be transmuted.
When did you see that? The philosopher's stone can be transmuted, not their body directly. Proof is that Scar's human decomposition works on them, while it didn't work on Father. Father and Hohenheim are the ones that can be "directly" transmutable, because they "are" the philosopher's stone. The Homonculus are just "humans" with a stone as their nucleus.
And Marcoh indeed did domething new. We've never seen this before. Yes, people wondered if the stone could be destroyed (I thought Scar would the first one to do it), but we have never actually seen it before. I'm not sure even Father knows how to destroy a stone. I think Scar could do the same trick with the good knowledge, as it is the only thing he needs to use his right arm.
Wuzzman
01-15-2008, 10:15 AM
no no. Ed transmuted Greed.....Why would Father and Hohenheim be transmutable...that doesn't make sense at all. It has been clear a LONG time ago that Homonculus aren't even human, they look human but they really just dead skin allowed to talk because of philosophers stone.
Sannom
01-15-2008, 10:37 AM
What Ed did to Greed was just Scar's human decomposition but applied to only one element : carbon, because Greed was covered in hardened carbon. He did this to "soften" the armor, not destroy Greed. If a human could do that, Ed could have done the same thing to him.
Why would Father and Hohenheim be transmutable...that doesn't make sense at all.
They "are" philosopher's stone, so they can be transmuted just like Envy's stone, I guess.
Kilowog
01-15-2008, 11:09 AM
Arakawa does not disapoint, so 3 down, 4 to go.
Gaelek_13
01-15-2008, 11:33 AM
Whatever
Defeated by a guy with a back problem seriously PATHETIC
A guy with a back problem who probably knows more about the source of a Homunculi's power than just about anyone else in the world (obviously excluding Hoenheim and Father in that sense).
Freiza
01-15-2008, 12:44 PM
their new abilities are pretty awesome.
Captain Pimp
01-15-2008, 05:30 PM
Epic chapter.
But it needs more Ling/Greed ;_;
Wow...Didn't see this coming. Scar haven't killed Envy yet so there is still time for "oh noez, lets do some research on him so he can escape" plot twist.
Gaelek_13
01-15-2008, 07:40 PM
Epic chapter.
But it needs more Ling/Greed ;_;
Quoted for the truth.
Hellion
01-16-2008, 10:02 PM
So Lust, Gluttony, Greed, and Envy have died, but Greed was the only one replaced?
Yakumo Fujii
01-16-2008, 10:56 PM
Excellent chapter. Definitely didn't see that coming.
So Lust, Gluttony, Greed, and Envy have died, but Greed was the only one replaced?
Father said he was going to replace Gluttony as well. And also, Envy's not dead yet.
Also, this chapter was great. Fun stuff to read and a nice ending.
kakoishii
01-17-2008, 10:41 PM
I'm beginning to miss Edward :( he hasn't been around for several chapters and the last time we did see him he was impaled and almost died. Oh well, whenever he pops back on screen it better be good. Also as much as I liked this chapter I somehow felt shortchanged with it being only 37 pages, for a monthly manga I expect at least 40 everytime, but I guess he was tired this month or something.
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