Dragonball/Z/GT/Kai Discussion Thread

[Detective X]

Hmm, Dragonball is the only anime that has actually impacted my life in any way. Toriyama became a huge influence in my art, the way I think, and the way... I talk.

My favorite part of the trilogy is the Piccolo arc, because not only does it introduce my favorite character, but it really begins the seriousness of the series and the fighting becomes stylistic.

My least favorite part is the Red Ribbon arc, because it is boring and very centered on Goku. But if it wasn't for that, there would be no Cell arc.

I like GT all the way through the end of the Baby arc, I depise the Super 17 episodes, and enjoy the end of the Black Dragon arc (when he begins fighting Yi Xing Long).

*takes breather*

My favorite character, as I said, is Piccolo. In second is Yamcha (terribly underrated and could defeat Cell if they fought during the Buu arc, according to filler), and in a close third is Ten (third eye formed by chakra, neat stuff!). My least favorite character is Vegeta. I like his purpose, I guess, but not the character.

What stuff of DB do you love/hate?

[Vegeta]

I love Vegeta's character. I hated most of GT. It didn't do justice the Dragonball name.

Vegeta and Gohan are my favorite characters. Oh and you can't forget Krillin!

[lemonlime]

I like everything but Goku! Boy I hated him :D I'm a DBZ fan from way back, I got so obsessed with it my dreams were litterd with scenes, quotes, and DBZ characters themselfs, night after night. I dont think I've EVER dedicated so much of my life to something like it. I was my gateway anime of course, and I wouldn't be here today if it weren't for DBZ. Dear god I'm pathetic. XD

[SStrunks]

Im a Trunks fan, DBZ is cool, my favorite saga would have to be cell saga.

[Wave]

heh. the only cool true character is Vegetto/Beijito :D
so yeah, Freezer/Frezia Saga is my fav saga ;)

[Saga-Sama]

my fav character is...
1)SSJ4 Gogeta
2)Trunks
3)#17
3)Kid Sangohan

favorite saga..... android saga

[Vaelen]

Kinda grew bored of DB/Z/GT a few years back.. :)

[HokageNaruto]

It's a good series, it's the crack that got me hooked on anime. Without it I bet a lot of people wouldn't watch anime.

[Sarumusha]

The Dragonball manga/anime has always been a favorite, mostly because it is influenced by the story Hsi Yu Chi - Journey to the West, my all time favorite story. I loved this story loooong before I ever heard of Dragonball.

If I had to pick a favorite out of the 3 shows, it would be Dragonball, because its story is very much like the Saiyuki original.

[jquchiha]

Goku and Vegeta are my favorite characters of DBZ. I really love the dragon ball series, when Goku was still small. It was so funny! Dragon Ball Z is also great, the vegeta, freeza, cell, majin buu saga. By the way, I don't like DB GT... It's boring.

[ahheng21]

this anime was the first japanese cartoon i like. it was so hot then.... everyone is buying the comic books, toys, sticker books.

[Naruto82]

:O a DBZ thread in a naruto forum and no Bashing wow thats a first :p

well anyways my Fav is Gohan :D fav saga was Cell/Cell games

*has the whole series on DVD*

[Vegenom]

DBZ was the first anime I actually followed. I saw Akira when I was young, but that was it. Until DBZ came along. What can I say, I'm a sucker for high paced martial arts and "fireballs".

Vegeta is my favourite character. He would have been the strongest, but Goku was the luckiest character ever.

Frieza (I know that's not the original spelling, but I like it this way) was the greatest villian of them all. You'll hate me for saying this but I loved his dub voice (yes the old lady like one. It made his small size but ridiculous power even greater.

I've seen it all, yet I'm still deprived. I've only seen dub eps, I've never seen an uncut sub.:(

[Annihilation]

.......it was just so long........all of the series together was like 600 episodes

[Dark Kakashi]

Personally i love Dragonball it was the best out of the 3 different series. I did not like Dragon Ball GT though.
Dragonball was good because it had a story line and character development and some really good fights, and there were no flying up until the Piccolo Daimo Saga.
The Piccolo Daimo Saga was my favorite one though.
My favorite fights were
1) Piccolo vs Android 17
2) Goku vs Vegeta (first fight)
3) Cell vs Goku
4) Goku vs Frieza

personally i like the top 2 the most and especially the first one

[korican04]

fav characters:
YAMCHA THE DESERT BANDIT!
He made a rock sword out of his wolf's fang fist.

Then would be little goku, cause he's an idiot.

fav fight, goku vs krillin.
and goku and piccolo vs raditz.

[Dark Travis]

I used to be so obsessed with this show
Majin Buu is my fav character by far, whatever form he's in (though my fav is kid buu)

[LEGENDARY inactive]

Master Roshi. I like that pervert. :D

[Jh1stgen]

I think they rushed it too fast.

First, Goku wins tournament and becomes the strongest in Earth then the galaxy, then the universe. It's funny how basically if you wanted to be strong, all you gota do is become angry and yell out your lungs.

[Wave]

geh, DBZ was great.
use to download the jap version on p2p programs.
favourite character was probably either
super majin buu (when he absorbed gotenks, piccolo, and gohan)
and vegetto....the absoulte strongest fusion character in the whole series.

[Stoic]

I lost my anime/manga virignity to DBZ. I love the manga and would always buy them, notwithstanding my tons of shiny cards. Ah, good times. x]

[~K+]

LOVE the manga, and yeah, I've got loads of those cards as well. XD

Favourite character would be Gohan during the cell saga when he wears the same costume as Piccolo, especially with the SS2 hair.

Used to wait months for the manga volumns to come out and check the stores every other week for it all the time. =P I only have 36 and 38-42 though...

[Vegeta]

I liked DBZ up until the end of the Cell Games, after that was watchable, but not awesome like the Saiyan Saga. Best Animation came in the end though. Whats this GT you are talking about... >> << >< Stupid wankers that made GT should DIE!

[Amatsu]

I liked DB. In my opinion it was so RPG-ish that I couldn't help but love it. And the opening Maka Fushigi Adventure has to be one of the greatest openings EVER in the history of anime.

But then it went onto DBZ a series that felt RPG-ish in the fact that it was completely chocked full of random uber long battles which half way through a person would just wonder how much longer is this fight going to be.

I got sick of it half way through the Goku vs Frieza fight. I remember during the whole thing I kept wondering when the heck Goku was going to freakin win the fight and then the whole 5 minutes till Namek explodes thing which was wlel practically around like 3 to 4 episodes. I just got sick of the endless filler and WAITING for SOMETHING to happen.

Although I'd say the android/cell saga made DBZ watchable. Hercule is the friggin man by the way. Just cause he is.

As for GT I have no interest in watching it. I'm just tired of Dragonball in general and to be honest Dragonball should have just died out after DBZ. Then again I hold firm in the belief that DBZ should have never been created at all.

[Vegeta]

Aethos, you do know that Dragonball Z (up to the Frieza Saga) was originally part of Dragonball. But Cause of some bullcrap to do with it being too long they busted it into tweo series.

[Amatsu]

Aethos, you do know that Dragonball Z (up to the Frieza Saga) was originally part of Dragonball. But Cause of some bullcrap to do with it being too long they busted it into tweo series.

Hmmm not really I thought DBZ was supposed to be just a sequel of DB and I thought DBZ was originally supposed to be the Saiyan and Frieza saga's and that's it.

In my opinion DB ended on the episode of Goku and ChiChi's wedding. I mean that was practically a good ending right there. Besides Goku's based on Goku the Monkey King a chinese legend. The whole Saiyan thing was rather random don't you think?

[Vegeta]

Yeah, they did kinda just throw that outta no where. Still the fights were cool for all those who just liked violence.

[onlythestrongest]

I used to love Dragonball as well, my favorite characters were Krillin and Tien. It would have been nice if they could have kept up with the Saiyans and been more apart of the later episodes.

[Aruka]

I Like Dragon Ball Although It's A Bit Violent..i Still Like It Especially Trunks! He's Soooo Cute!

[Vegeta]

Heh onlythestrongest, Did you know that Yamcha, Krillin and Tien were all able (if they had another chance) to beat Cell during the end of the Buu saga.

[Jh1stgen]

DBGT sucked until the Baby Saga

[Vegeta]

0_0; the baby saga was first... you mean after... Well that saga fucked with the story line.

[Jh1stgen]

no .. I meant the first like 20 epis were boring

[ZildjianItachi]

omg... I was a DBZ maniac ever since ?I was like...10 or something... when it first came out in Korea which is just about the same time Japan releases theirs... and then I quit watchin it when I was 15 but now I recently got DBZ Budokai 2 and I'm gettin right back in! My favourite character was and still is Future Trunks... from the android saga that was awesome...

[Raw64life]

Alwyas loved DBZ.

And Piccolo > *

[RurouniLeeO]

All hail Vegeta-sama. Saiya-jin no oujisama.

[bluewolf]

I loved DBZ. I used to own a store and would tell all the customers to shut the hell up and watch the show with me when it came on.

I liked piccolo because he was a very smart fighter even after he was well outclassed by the progression of the show. actually that was the one thing i truely didnt like about the show (other than the time wasting delays which killed freeza saga and cell saga sucked for this) no one in the show was ever really worth their meat unless they were a saiyan. it got kind of old knowing that every one else was just a side kick to get goku enough time to power up or learn something or make it to the battle. I really wish that piccolo and even krillin could have been given bigger parts of some kind. I mean.. it always seemed sily to me that if 5 people had a power of 1,000,000 they would still get totaly owned by the one guy with a power of 1,000,010.

I think thats why i like naruto so much. every one is usefull in the show.. lol except maybe sakura :)

[Wave]

Did you know that Yamcha, Krillin and Tien were all able (if they had another chance) to beat Cell during the end of the Buu saga.
wanna explain why?
cuz i still dont think they can beat cell (especially with the teleport techinque he took from goku).


*know wonders how powerful majin buu could possibly be if he absorbed Cell and Freiza* <---might be a good reason why Goku wished him to be a human...image if he was in hell (i hate how funimation changed hell to hfil, really stupid) that he will most likely absorb all the guys stuck there =\
it'd probably make him more powerful since all of them arent pure good guys (remember that one ep where kaioushin talked about the first time he saw him)

[narong]

dbz characters and special abilities were cool

as for the long fighting episodes that was hella annoying. took probably a month to finish one fight! storyline needed some work. i didnt like the fact that you could bring someone back to life just by gatherin the dragon ballz and wishin em back (how corny is that?) ... but gohan rulez!

[Code]

Dragonball the manga and only the first 20 volumes is my favorite manga series. Still read it every now and then. Just great.

DBZ is okay too, I used to be really into it way back when i first watched adn read it. It's not bad and definitely underrated(people judge stuff by what others say a lot of DBZ-bashes haven't actually seen it or they base it on the dubs). And I've noticed people bash teh manga also by saying 'the anime was bad so the manga will be too'. Even though a episode was like less than 1 manga chapter.

[onemic sensei]

damn i liked dragonball to dragonball Z it was one of the first animes ive ever watched (i think keropi was the first thats old school for ya!!). i watched dragonball when i was like 6 or 7 and it was the best ever! vegeta is my favourite character but i despise goku and the only good part about gt is the black dragon saga.

in total arent there like 800+ episodes?? well right now db is dead to me unless i watch gt its actually all right excluding the baby saga it mixes the adventure of db and the action of dbz

[Mugen_Kaji]

I hated most of GT. It didn't do justice the Dragonball name.

And it's no surprise, seeing as Toriyama-san had little or no input in creating GT.

[~K+]

Keroppi had his own show!? Haha, I've never seen it, but I love the froggy.

Toriyama only did the character designs for GT.

Anybody seen the DBZ film which was split into 2 parts set in the time during the Cell Games when Gohan could turn in SS? It was about this Dr. Ghost reviving Frieza, the Namek guy from an older film, the guy who looks identical to Goku from another older film and several others, and when they're hit they have teleport powers to dodge the attacks...back in the days I found it to be one of the better DBZ Films, but it seems not that many people's heard of it.

[Amatsu]

To be honest though what pissed me off the most about DBZ was that it was just one fight after another. There was barely a break before the next big fight broke out and little to no character development was made during that time unless of course it was Gohan.

Which is why my favorite DBZ moments are

The episode where Goku and Piccolo learn to drive

The entire Great Saiyaman saga

Other than that there really wasn't much effort in DBZ in my opinion. Just the same bad guy who's stronger than the LAST bad guy wants to destroy the earth for absolutely no reason. I mean really most of the main villians of DBZ were a joke except the androids and Cell. At least the androids and Cell had personality and well... a sense of coolness. Frieza and Buu were just plain the worst villiains ever.

[ChibiGoten]

I think DBZ was one of the first anime series for nearly everyone on the globe. Not saying it was everyone's first one, but I'm pretty sure it's a whole lot of people who saw these series as their first. And then got inspired to watch other series. After I first saw some of these episodes on the TV here, I was eager to just try and see if there were more shows like that around. Then I discovered NGE (Neon Genesis Evangelion), and eventually more and more.

Favorite Characters of DBZ? I'd have to say it's Goten from the Buu Saga. Not in Dragonball GT, since he's a nerd there. After Goten, it's Vegeta. Especially in his Majin form. And then of course Gohan when he was SSj-2 during the Cell Saga.


Anybody seen the DBZ film which was split into 2 parts set in the time during the Cell Games when Gohan could turn in SS? It was about this Dr. Ghost reviving Frieza, the Namek guy from an older film, the guy who looks identical to Goku from another older film and several others, and when they're hit they have teleport powers to dodge the attacks...back in the days I found it to be one of the better DBZ Films, but it seems not that many people's heard of it.

You're talking about the "Lost movie" of DBZ. This was actually an OVA. But eventually it was released as a Lost Movie. It was actually 3 parts ;) Unless you had a better version that was released by someone else as encode. But yeah, that movie was pretty good as well.

[R_Lee86]

i watched dragonball when i was like 6 or 7 and it was the best ever!

Thats not possible, unless you watched a fansub. DB wasnt around at all in the US 9 years ago. It wasnt even in syndication then.

Anyway, I think these days, people have been introduced to anime either through DBZ or Sailor Moon. I was introduced to it when it was first aired on Toonami in '98. It was what got me into anime and will always be my favorite. Originally, my favorite character has always been Gohan. But over time, it changed to Goku.

[Wave]

You're talking about the "Lost movie" of DBZ. This was actually an OVA. But eventually it was released as a Lost Movie. It was actually 3 parts ;) Unless you had a better version that was released by someone else as encode. But yeah, that movie was pretty good as well.
lol, i remember that. the music themes was pretty different compared to the other DBZ (jap) themes. but yeah, its probably impossible right now to find a good quality one :S

[ChibiGoten]

lol, i remember that. the music themes was pretty different compared to the other DBZ (jap) themes. but yeah, its probably impossible right now to find a good quality one :S

Yeah, that's because it was from a videogame the music.
I kinda liked the BGM though. It had a nice touch to it. XD Especially during the battle-scene of Goku and the others vs. Dr. Raichii.

[Amatsu]

Yeah and there was many things different about DB. One of the things I liked was that characters like Yamcha, Tien, Chout-Zu, and Krillian were important and could hold their own. In DBZ it became

"OMG we must stand around and distract them with one or two of dying so that way Goku can get here and destroy the bad guy!"

Then Goku would arrive do a lot of Kamehameha's which would do absolutely nothing then he'd take a few episodes to do a Genki Dama to finish off the bad guy and when it wasn't Goku it was either Piccolo, Gohan, or Vegeta.

I mean what the heck happened? I wanted to see Krillian kicking some Ginyu Force behind yet it was Goku who did EVERYTHING. Vegeta and the others just barely got by without being killed before Goku showed up. Same thing with the androids, same thing with Cell, same thing with Buu. I guess I just expected more out of the side characters. It just sucked to see Yamcha, Tien, and Chout-zu going from strong characters in DB to the three suckiest fighters of DBZ.

[ChibiGoten]

Yeah and there was many things different about DB. One of the things I liked was that characters like Yamcha, Tien, Chout-Zu, and Krillian were important and could hold their own. In DBZ it became

"OMG we must stand around and distract them with one or two of dying so that way Goku can get here and destroy the bad guy!"

Then Goku would arrive do a lot of Kamehameha's which would do absolutely nothing then he'd take a few episodes to do a Genki Dama to finish off the bad guy and when it wasn't Goku it was either Piccolo, Gohan, or Vegeta.

I mean what the heck happened? I wanted to see Krillian kicking some Ginyu Force behind yet it was Goku who did EVERYTHING. Vegeta and the others just barely got by without being killed before Goku showed up. Same thing with the androids, same thing with Cell, same thing with Buu. I guess I just expected more out of the side characters. It just sucked to see Yamcha, Tien, and Chout-zu going from strong characters in DB to the three suckiest fighters of DBZ.


Yamcha and Krillin are both human. You can never compare their strength to that of a Saiya-jin. It's like comparing an ant to an elephant. Goku was a kid in the DB series, and even then already with super-human strength. As an adult he far surpassed them already. And as expected him and Vegeta kept on pushing theirselves over the limit in order to become stronger and reach new levels of power.

[Amatsu]

Well I'm not comparing their power's to Goku and Vegeta's. I just mean that I expected Krillan, Yamcha, Tien, and Chout-zu to be SOMEWHAT important in DBZ like they were in DB. Instead it just seemed like they were pushed off to the side as everything centered on Piccolo and the Saiyans.

I mean it seems like the only important thing Krillan did was die so Goku could go Super Saiyan.

[ChibiGoten]

Mental Aid. XD
Where would Goku be without his best friend. Maybe Krillin isn't the strongest fighter in the series, but he sure has the spirit to keep on fighting, no matter what the cost is. Even his life. And I'd say that's pretty important as well, don't you think.

[Amatsu]

Yeah but still...

I can see Yajirobe doing nothing but I was hoping that the lower class Z fighters would be able to... well do something other than being a decoy.

I mean heck when Tien fought Buu it was like WOAH Tien improved a lot! Why the heck did everyone but the saiyans, hercule, and piccolo die instantly!

[ChibiGoten]

Why Mr. Satan was kept alive is beyond me as well. How that retard manages to survive everytime really amazed me. I mean really... KILL HIM OFF ALREADY. I hated him so much lol.

Edit: I'd love to keep talking about this subject, but I'm beat right now. (3:22am) So gonna hit the sack lol. I'll check tomorrow if there are more replies here o.o;

[Wave]

Why Mr. Satan was kept alive is beyond me as well. How that retard manages to survive everytime really amazed me. I mean really... KILL HIM OFF ALREADY. I hated him so much lol.

Edit: I'd love to keep talking about this subject, but I'm beat right now. (3:22am) So gonna hit the sack lol. I'll check tomorrow if there are more replies here o.o;
hes basically the comdey relief in the anime, so that it'll have some funny moments since goku wasnt really acting dumb anymore...uh, thats what i see it has. otherwise he should have been killed when it was still in the cell saga

[~K+]

A question, you know how in Satan City there are signs that says "Satan City"? In the English version did they chop those scenes out completely or did they edit the words on the sign into something else?

[Wave]

yep, thats suppose to be Orange Star city =\
funimation just made some BS lie when they said taht Orange Star city was renamed...it wasnt

[ChibiGoten]

The dub has way too many scenes editted or cut out. E.g; Kid Buu strangling Vegeta around in the air almost crushing his neck while doing so. Or the strange nightmare Goku had, of Android 17 and 18 killing his entire family and then about to kill Goku himself. They cut that entire scene out. (Though somehow this is only when it was shown on TV. There are some uncut scenes as well that you can find online).

[kupoe]

yajirobi owns all

[ChibiGoten]

yajirobi owns all

Weird taste you got there lol.

[Ssj3_Goku]

If i hit the lottery im going to make the very first Virtual Reality Dragonball Z fighting game. It will be great and you will be able to pick your favorite fighting scene's from the show and instead you get to play in them! OO!

[R_Lee86]

The dub has way too many scenes editted or cut out. E.g; Kid Buu strangling Vegeta around in the air almost crushing his neck while doing so. Or the strange nightmare Goku had, of Android 17 and 18 killing his entire family and then about to kill Goku himself. They cut that entire scene out. (Though somehow this is only when it was shown on TV. There are some uncut scenes as well that you can find online).

Nothing on Funimation's DVD's are edited out. The EDITED DUB didnt cut Goku's nightmare scene out completely, they just made it lest violent. Thats what Funi does for most scenes. Dont debate me on this, I know my DBZ.

[ChibiGoten]

Nothing on Funimation's DVD's are edited out. The EDITED DUB didnt cut Goku's nightmare scene out completely, they just made it lest violent. Thats what Funi does for most scenes. Dont debate me on this, I know my DBZ.

Yeah, I know that. I saw it myself a part was ripped from one of the DVD's. The nightmare part. But read the other part I said - They cut it on TV. I know my DBZ too, but I'm not going to debate on it, so don't worry. Because I know what you mean.

[Amatsu]

Well there's something else that bugged me about DBZ. The fact that Piccolo is a namek. I mean in DB he wasn't a namek! That was just as random as the Saiyan thing.

[~K+]

Anybody played the 2nd DBZ fighting game on SNES? The story mode was pretty cool. (Including a fight where Cell flicks Satan away, even though Satan isn't a playable character)

[Minus617]

DBZ got me hooked on anime and Dragonball got me to watch some more. DBGT was a waste of hard drive space and the dub was so awful (even though i did like the look of SSJ4).

[Wave]

Anybody played the 2nd DBZ fighting game on SNES? The story mode was pretty cool. (Including a fight where Cell flicks Satan away, even though Satan isn't a playable character)
lol, you mean Dragonball Z - Super Butouden 2?
i got to play as Mr. Satan =o
forgot how though lol
its not great since his life bar wasnt even enough to last 3 punches :S

[~K+]

Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about, forgot what it was called in Japanese/English.

I only remember the code to use Brolly(sp?) and Goku. =/

[Wave]

Yeah, that's the one I'm talking about, forgot what it was called in Japanese/English.

I only remember the code to use Brolly(sp?) and Goku. =/
xD, yeah thats the classic code for that game.
up, x, down, b, l, y, r, a

but the Mr.Satan code only worked in story mode i think.

[Amatsu]

Hmmm I never got to play them myself but I heard they were pretty good.

I just wish that the GBA; DBZ Legacy of Goku games were better made.

[Wave]

Hmmm I never got to play them myself but I heard they were pretty good.

I just wish that the GBA; DBZ Legacy of Goku games were better made.
same here, Legacy of Goku wasnt as fun as that other dbz snes game..forgot what that was called too :S

[Amatsu]

Well I don't consider the DB series to be the greatest series ever. I mean that sort of obsessive fanbase crap actually turns me off of the series.

Heh I remember one time when I tried to get someone to watch Princess Mononoke. They watched it for one second then left the room saying it sucked because it wasn't DBZ and that DBZ is the only REAL anime.

I mean really how sad is that.

[Wave]

Well I don't consider the DB series to be the greatest series ever. I mean that sort of obsessive fanbase crap actually turns me off of the series.

Heh I remember one time when I tried to get someone to watch Princess Mononoke. They watched it for one second then left the room saying it sucked because it wasn't DBZ and that DBZ is the only REAL anime.

I mean really how sad is that.
should have smacked your friend for that xD

[Masaki]

I say everything between the day he met Bulma and fighting Frieza was great. However, between the fight against Metal Frieza and the fight against Super 17 just plain sucks.

The Shadow Dragons are great, though.

[Saix]

Geez...about DBZ, there's a lot to say. I'm not as into it as I used to be but it is still one of the best anime series I've ever seen. I didn't really like Dragon Ball much, especially all that Red Ribbon army parts. My favorite parts would probably be all the tournaments.

My favorite character would either be Piccolo or Vegeta, since they're both just so arrogant and into trying to be the best. Well, Piccolo never ever really was the best at any given time except for those few days after he fused with Kami, but I don't think I should get into it that deep. My least favorite would probably be Gohan since he's probably the one who had the most potential but thanks to his loser mom Chi-Chi, he had to waste it all into studying his butt off for 7 straight years. In that amount of time, he probably could've become the strongest Saiyan ever, kinda.

[Inochi]

Yay, I'm not the only DB fan left! Anyways, I'd have to say my favorite part of the series was the part with Androids 17 and 18...My fav characters are Goku, Pan, Bulma, and Android 18
I guess I don't really have a least favorite part, or a hated character
Also, I think DBGT coulda been better than it is. I've got too many complaints about it to count, but it isn't as bad as alot of people claim.

[Wave]

ummm, least see if Mirage's method works.
anyone that watches DBGT, just pretended that DB and DBZ have nothing to do with DBGT and it should be less confusing/stupid when you watch the eps

[B3H]

Its an ok series if your just starting to get into anime [like I was at the time]

My favorite saga out of em all would have to be the Kid Buu Saga and my favorite character would be Vegeta.

[ChibiGoten]

Vegeta rocked in the Buu saga >D
Majin pwnage.

[Ssj3_Goku]

Krillen has the best luck ever.. What do i mean when i say that. Its this. HES GETS ANDRIOD 18.. I mean shes hot and she does not age. what can a guy ask for eh?

[Wave]

well thats probably the only luck that Krillin had. he got killed like how many times in all of the Dragonball saga

[Ssj3_Goku]

Dam worth all thopse deaths i think eh? He will have a perky women till he freaking dies lol. Yea that is some sweet stuff there

Im glad he got a chick i thought he would turn gay after not having a chick for so long :p

[Vegenom]

Krillen has the best luck ever..
No way, Goku is the master of pure luck. Even when he dies it's a blessing in disguise.

First time, he goes to and trains with King Kai who teaches him Kao Ken and the Spirit Bomb. Which just happen to be reasons for Vegeta's defeat. And really helps him survive Frieza.

Second time, he gets to keep his body and travel with King Kai where he trains with the strongest fighters in the universe, getting used to all different kinds of fighters and powers he never would have come across had he lived. While Vegeta is stuck on Earth with only the gravity machine to aid him. Goku learns how to go SSJ3 and the Fusion technique.

On a side note, I've been watching the Frieza saga all do on Toonami.

[poona]

GT was absolutely rubbish, there wasnt even a manga for it. My favorite characters are Gouku, Gohan in the Cell saga, and Fat Buu.

[poona]

How long have you guys been watching DBZ? I've started watching it from the Frieza saga when I was six in Japanese with English subtitles, the Chinese voices didnt come until a few months later. I hate the way that funimation has to cut everything that was good about the anime e.g: In the original anime, when Gohan kills the Cell Jrs the split in half before the blow up, but in the Funimation version they simply explode.

I HATE FUNIMATION!!!!!!!!!

[Wave]

oh yeah, another cut scene was when krillen got killed by frieza. they didnt even show his body get larger and then explode. it was just freiza doing that thing with his hand and suddenly krillen explodes :S

[Vegenom]

I need to get me some uncut episodes. Anyone got any links?

[Ssj3_Goku]

^ Vege you took my post there serious i was talking about hes lucky on getting 18 that was the whole point.

[KinKaze]

DragonBall Z...........The Most Popular Anime!!
whooh,what Can I Say?Who doesn't know DragonBall.It's One of the most popular Anime!And One of The Best I guess.There's a lot of cool things in it.Super Saiyin?Your Hair turns Blond en Spikes Up.Who would ever had thought it would be like this!

At Firts,It Started with a story/characters which was based on the Monkey King Story.And then it developed into One Huge Great Anime.(Great Battles,Kamahamea,EnergyAttacks,SuperSaiyin,Fusion etc. Just Great!)

Thnks Akira Toriyama!!
For Giving Us This wonderfull Anime!!

[Wave]

At Firts,It Started with a story/characters which was based on the Monkey King Story.And then it developed into One Huge Great Anime.(Great Battles,Kamahamea,EnergyAttacks,SuperSaiyin,Fusion etc. Just Great!)

kinda weird, but thats how Saiyuki started also. except instead super saiyain, fusion, and all the otehr db stuff. it was just going to the west and fight some youkai

[seta101]

personally I thought Z was the best out of the three, with DB coming in second. GT just had too much rehashing, and the SSJ4.. well... that was almost expected.

[ChibiGoten]

DragonBall Z...........The Most Popular Anime!!
whooh,what Can I Say?Who doesn't know DragonBall.It's One of the most popular Anime!And One of The Best I guess.There's a lot of cool things in it.Super Saiyin?Your Hair turns Blond en Spikes Up.Who would ever had thought it would be like this!

At Firts,It Started with a story/characters which was based on the Monkey King Story.And then it developed into One Huge Great Anime.(Great Battles,Kamahamea,EnergyAttacks,SuperSaiyin,Fusion etc. Just Great!)

Thnks Akira Toriyama!!
For Giving Us This wonderfull Anime!!

I wouldn't call it one of the best. I used to think the same, but compared to other anime it's definitely not one of the best.. It's still a good anime though. But the reason why it's so popular is because for everyone watching anime, DBZ was probably one of the first series to them. It inspired most ppl to watch the other GREAT anime.

[KinKaze]

I wouldn't call it one of the best. I used to think the same, but compared to other anime it's definitely not one of the best.. It's still a good anime though. But the reason why it's so popular is because for everyone watching anime, DBZ was probably one of the first series to them. It inspired most ppl to watch the other GREAT anime.

Hey Now You Mention it,You Kinda Right =P Mayb I was too enthusiastic when I wrote the post =P.But anyway I do agree with your thoughts.About the fact that it was one of the first Anime series people watched.And becaused of that,like it.

However,It might not be One of the best anime IF you compared it to other great Animes,It is One of the most popular Anime.EveryOne Loves it.So thats what makes it one of the best in Its Own Way. (if you understand what I mean =P )

[Arima Teppei]

yeah it is defenitly one of the best anime's ive watched dragonball and dragonball z and also dragonball gt it really rocked ( but have too say i like naruto better if i need too choose) but i have loads on cd from dragonball z that was the best of the 3 parts.

[Wave]

geh, if i get a job now...i might actually try to earn enough to buy the DBZ Box set from Japan.

[Arima Teppei]

erhm why it will be all japanese right ? or you learning japanese aswell
so you understand it ? would be a little bit of a waste if you couldn't understand it but how much is it going too cost a box because i wanna get myself one aswell :) just learning abit japanese so it will help alot those dvd's.

[Wave]

well i'm assuming their would be subtitles options in the dvd since its basically known worldwide by know.

[ChristianKO]

Fav Characters....
-Gohan
Fav Saga
-Cell Saga

[Arima Teppei]

well i'm assuming their would be subtitles options in the dvd since its basically known worldwide by know.

That would be great than ill probably going too get it myself aswell. :)

[sabakyu]

well i think that its kinda messed up since all they is scream all the episode and the animation is all crappy !

[Stinki]

its the crappiest anime ever...

POWER UP
POWER UP
BIG MUSCLES

aye ah, i have a headache.

[Dammerung]

I can't stand it. Up to episode 80ish it was OK. Just, OK. Then it got AWFUL.

[palabok]

It's great! I grew up with it and it's still one of my all-time favorite series. Everyone MUST have liked/loved it at some time .. but when its popularity diminished, they threw it aside, just like Pokemon. :rolleyes:

[Drifa]

Nope, I never liked it. Utterly pathetic art, (Toriyama must have about 5 character designs, every single character he makes looks just like another one), one of the most boring, pathetic and repetative storylines that I have ever seen. Speaking of repetative, HOW LONG DO THEY WANT THOSE STUPID FIGHTS TO LAST?!?!

[ahheng21]

when i was young, i like it alot. one of my first anime i ever watched and i remembered during those days, people like me bought their stickers, cards, comic books and glued in front of the tv every saturday.

[Vegeta]

Nope, I never liked it. Utterly pathetic art, (Toriyama must have about 5 character designs, every single character he makes looks just like another one), one of the most boring, pathetic and repetative storylines that I have ever seen. Speaking of repetative, HOW LONG DO THEY WANT THOSE STUPID FIGHTS TO LAST?!?!

Ahem, if you had read the manga, you would have understood that, alot of the Anime was filler. There is alot of filler in that Anime, I mean even the dub had tons of filler and they cut out 15 whole episodes. Akira Toriyama, create the stuff after the Frieza saga for the money, he had originally planned to stop the series with Goku as the the "Legendary Super-Saiyan." But come on who would give up the money they would have offered him for more.

You want to talk about Repeditive? Naruto is repeditive, he faces an enemy he uses the kyuubi chakra to beat them. And he never *really* loses, bah, people who think they know everything. Look at all things from a different point of view before you comment, without DBZ, Naruto would not be Naruto, and many Anime's would be different.

My thoughts on Dragonball Z?

One of the greatest Anime's ever made, it was one of the starters of the World Anime craze, that now sees alot of people likeing such series as Naruto. But I watched Dragonball Z from start to finish, many times. I liked it when I was 12 I like it now. In my mind it will forever remain as one of the greats. It eclipses Naruto in my mind.

Respect DBZ for without it, we would be lost.

[Lee]

i think it is all crap.

[therichsweede]

Ahem, if you had read the manga, you would have understood that, alot of the Anime was filler. There is alot of filler in that Anime, I mean even the dub had tons of filler and they cut out 15 whole episodes. Akira Toriyama, create the stuff after the Frieza saga for the money, he had originally planned to stop the series with Goku as the the "Legendary Super-Saiyan." But come on who would give up the money they would have offered him for more.

You want to talk about Repeditive? Naruto is repeditive, he faces an enemy he uses the kyuubi chakra to beat them. And he never *really* loses, bah, people who think they know everything. Look at all things from a different point of view before you comment, without DBZ, Naruto would not be Naruto, and many Anime's would be different.

My thoughts on Dragonball Z?

One of the greatest Anime's ever made, it was one of the starters of the World Anime craze, that now sees alot of people likeing such series as Naruto. But I watched Dragonball Z from start to finish, many times. I liked it when I was 12 I like it now. In my mind it will forever remain as one of the greats. It eclipses Naruto in my mind.

Respect DBZ for without it, we would be lost.

couldnt have said it better myself,i really liked dbz,and hell i still do rewatch the episodes from time to time.

[Drifa]

Ahem, if you had read the manga, you would have understood that, alot of the Anime was filler. There is alot of filler in that Anime, I mean even the dub had tons of filler and they cut out 15 whole episodes. Akira Toriyama, create the stuff after the Frieza saga for the money, he had originally planned to stop the series with Goku as the the "Legendary Super-Saiyan." But come on who would give up the money they would have offered him for more.

That's what we like to call, selling out your art. And an anime based pretty much solely on filler episodes isn't a good thing. And this is the anime we're talking about, what the manga was doesn't come into it.


You want to talk about Repeditive? Naruto is repeditive, he faces an enemy he uses the kyuubi chakra to beat them. And he never *really* loses, bah, people who think they know everything. Look at all things from a different point of view before you comment, without DBZ, Naruto would not be Naruto, and many Anime's would be different.


That's an oversimplification and you know it. We might as well say the same thing about CB or another anime. Ranma's repetative in the same way, but it's funny and bearable provided you don't watch it in a marathon. Naruto might not be Nartuo without DBZ, but that doesn't make DBZ a good thing. Even if Kishimoto was inspired by Toriyama, he'd be a pretty lousy mangaka if he didn't improve on what he'd learnt from. You should take your own advice and look at it from a different prespective, look at some of the real anime greats and accept that something you like when you were 12 isn't necessarily the greatest series around. I liked Pokemon when I was 10; loved it the same way you love DBZ, but now I know that it doesn't compare to some other series out there.

But apart from that, the whole point of this thread is to state your opinion on the show.

And Naruto is far from being a perfect series, it's good but there are lots of animes that eclipse it

[Aruka]

I only watch it 'coZ I find Trunks very CUTE

[Code]

well i think that its kinda messed up since all they is scream all the episode and the animation is all crappy !
All that is filler... and just so you know Dragonballz started in the late 80s. It's quite old.

Dragonball(the original) is my favorite manga series. The anime is great too, not too crappy filler. Dragonball Z at first it was good(not great) but then it just became so average. Just like Naruto did. Both have thier ups and downs.

[Stinki]

Renji, you're right, but the question was "what are your thoughts of DBZ?", and i said what i thought about it. DBZ was really an anime starter, but i don't like it anymore. But thank god for it because NAruto wouldn't be here.

[RyuusaBakuryu]

when i was younger, i used to watch dbz on cn, i didnt even know WHAT the heck was going on when i saw for the first time, so i kept watching and got swallowed in. it was a good show back then, and the only thing i could say about it was that the battles took too long, i mean, they have maybe 6 episodes in where a battle is taking 5 minutes...how does that make any sense.. but i was never really bothered about the constant yelling because a lot of the times when that would happen, someone would transform into another level and the new transformations were always fun to watch. its basically how i got started into anime

[Violence Fight]

a long time ago, waaaaay back in the day, I'd say when I was like, 10 or 11, so sometime around 95-97 they started showing Dragon Ball here on one of the local stations in the morning. I saw a few episodes, it was cool. Our OTHER local network showed DBZ episodes on sunday mornings(2 episodes, I basically caught the vegita to mid namek parts) and I was hooked. I was a BIIIIG DBZ kid for awhile there, until I discovered some of the better animation out there.

Opening to Namek end was decent(Save the 20 episodes for the 1 minute fight between goku and freiza). HOWEVER, the best will still be Dragonball, the original. That was incredibly decent...after namke DBZ gets worse and worse and you can tell it was done for the money.


one thing I'd like to add, to the guy who mentioned naruto's repetitiveness. Yes, Becuase Naruto punches and kicks at someone with the same animation for half a minut, connects with a big punch, then goes back to the EXACT SAME SEQUENCE for another minute.

Oh yeah, And naruto does lose..if your an anime kid you probably don't know what im talking about..but he does lose. Which is a great thing, seeing as Goku has not lost to my knowledge, he may have sacrificed himself a few times..but hasn't lost.

[Code]

Violence Fight: Naruto rarely loses unless it's to someone whose sole purpose is to show how strong they are. For example Itachi.

Goku on the other hand has lots countless times. Well in DBZ there are a few such as against Cell and also against Buu.

In Dragonball. Well it's not uncommon for him to lose. He lost every world tournamnet aside from the very last which was the end of the series. There are other times he has lost. Which adds to an unpredictablity factor, something Naruto is completely missing.

[kevin77]

DBZ was my first anime and I really liked it. Even now, I still think it has its good moments. It really makes feel nostalgic talking aout this series... Anyways, DBZ is a classic anime that should be ranked among the all time bests.

[Wave]

DBZ in my opinion is probably the best of all time....you know it paved way for other animes (like Naruto. you know Kishimoto liked DB too).

[dspr8_rugged]

Dragonball Z isn't that bad. For its action sequences, it's quite a sight.

Though of course, I got tired of all the screaming the power-up-ing only to find out in the end that the enemy will get obliterated by some big energy ball... :D

Well, that is when the Majin Buu arc begins where all things get so crappy...

[Narsuke]

when i was young, i like it alot. one of my first anime i ever watched and i remembered during those days, people like me bought their stickers, cards, comic books and glued in front of the tv every saturday.

Same here the Dragonball franchise was the one that brought to the wornderful world of anime and manga . I watch and read Naruto the same reason that I watch Dragonball

[rSYNist17]

I loved Dragonball and the 1st seaon of DBZ cus back then their power levels were low enough to where they had to do a lot of actual fighting and martial arts. But once the Frieza saga hit, it was nothing but a bunch of 1 hit attacks and who-can-fire-the-biggest-blast challenge :mad: . I'll still go back and watch the first of the series anytime though :D

[Wave]

useless fact: Piccolo isn't one whole being.
Kami and King Piccolo spilt, not Junior. so therefore, the Piccolo in DBZ and GT is still not an entire being.

[Ninja48]

DB was cool.
DBZ was trying.
DBGT was useless.

=\

[Raegan]

Let's jus hoe that Naruto doesn't go down the same path that DBZ did.

[Amatsu]

Dragonball - A great series that felt RPG-ish and really drew you in.

DBZ - If Dragonball was the plot of an RPG than DBZ would be all the random battles. Which is practically what it was.

DBGT - The Sonic Underground of the Dragonball series.

[Rurouni]

One of the greatest Anime's ever made, it was one of the starters of the World Anime craze, that now sees alot of people likeing such series as Naruto. But I watched Dragonball Z from start to finish, many times. I liked it when I was 12 I like it now. In my mind it will forever remain as one of the greats. It eclipses Naruto in my mind.

Respect DBZ for without it, we would be lost.

I agree. DBZ will always take the special place in my heart as one of the best animes ever :amuse. It paved a road for other animes to follow.

[Ark 16.5]

DGZ wasn't very good, but it was special and that is what makes it good.

[kevin77]

I think i'm about to rewatch all 291 ep soon.

[set]

DBZ just became boring to me. The Cell saga killed it and don't even get me started on the Buu saga. The First too saga was great though.

[4thokage]

It was ok for that time it came out i was a kid and i liked it but i dont think i could rewatch it but the manga is still one of my favourites

[Omote Renge]

You know so many of you people think Dragonball is crap, well if it was never made there probably wouldn't be Naruto. That's right Akira Toriyama influenced so many of today's manga artists it's not even funny.

A lot of the things people hate about it are also in Naruto, like power ups. Ahem, Cursed Seal and Kyuubi ring any bells? Also long drawn out fights? Uh does anyone remember Naruto vs Sasuke?

It's stupid that someone actually made a thread based on what they most likely saw in one episode of the anime. Which by the way is filler out the wazoo. If someone only saw one episode of Naruto and trashed it based on that one episode, wouldn't you be mad that they didn't even give it a chance?

Everyone MUST have liked/loved it at some time .. but when its popularity diminished, they threw it aside, just like Pokemon.
Yeah probably, actually more like people who saw that it was getting popular decided to hate it because they wanted to remain "underground".

[Masaki]

As many said, the original Dragonball was a great show. Unlike in Z/GT (what do they stand for anyway?) many of the enemies had cool and unique attacks.

Some examples are:
Tien's Solar Flare (it started getting old once Goku and Krillan started using it)
Choutsou's (sp) cool attack that gave people stomach aches
Master Carrot and his ability to turn people into... carrots
Goku's transformation (which almost got old when Vegeta transformed, even though it makes sense that he can)
Fortune Teller Baba's fighters
Nam's dive bomb (*growl* ...so lazy, Nam is the Hindi word for Name... or so I heard)
and let's not forget the Double After Image (which he doesn't use again until fighting Nova Shenron if anyone caught that)

Then DBZ... well Goku's Brother just lands on Earth and tells him he's from another planet and his race is practically destroyed. It's ok, really. Just strange.

Everything's all good and fine for a while. Though I even started getting pissed with all of the Kaioken levels...

Then the Ginyu Force appears later on with some creative attacks like Guldo's time freeze (they should put him in a DBZ game) and Ginyu's Body Change (ever wonder if that's his real body?).

Then Goku turns Super Saiyan (if anyone noticed, Goku shined with a golden aura which never came by again for any transformation afterwards).

Then Garlic Jr, then everything goes downhill from there.

(Though there were creative attacks for the Shenrons)

If anyone noticed, the biggest complaint I have is the lack of creative attacks.

[Omote Renge]

Unlike in Z/GT (what do they stand for anyway?)
Actually in the manga there was never a separation between Dragonball and Dragonball Z. It was only in the anime that they made that separation. DB and DBZ were printed under the same title of Dragonball.

GT was an anime but never a manga. It stands for Grand Tour by the way. As in a grand tour of the universe, since they were traveling through space looking for dragonballs. I'm not much of a fan of GT myself.

Then Goku turns Super Saiyan (if anyone noticed, Goku shined with a golden aura which never came by again for any transformation afterwards).
Uh...the aura was there.

[Masaki]

No, no. Goku shined in a very sparkling way the moment he transformed.

His aura was different that time than the other times there were transformations.

[Darc_d3mon]

Some of it is ok and then it gets stupid .....

[Wave]

Some of it is ok and then it gets stupid .....
so a certain point, yes...
but i think there was a mistranslation or something in the Freeza Battle =|
though i shouldnt used a scanlation an example, but i'll do it anyways.
the manga said "a few mintues" till the planet explodes, the dubbed said "five mintues". now a few mintues could be anything, so that would make sense why the battle took like 5 eps.

[nigggs]

You want to talk about Repeditive? Naruto is repeditive, he faces an enemy he uses the kyuubi chakra to beat them. And he never *really* loses, bah, people who think they know everything. Look at all things from a different point of view before you comment, without DBZ, Naruto would not be Naruto, and many Anime's would be different.

My thoughts on Dragonball Z?

One of the greatest Anime's ever made, it was one of the starters of the World Anime craze, that now sees alot of people likeing such series as Naruto. But I watched Dragonball Z from start to finish, many times. I liked it when I was 12 I like it now. In my mind it will forever remain as one of the greats. It eclipses Naruto in my mind.

Respect DBZ for without it, we would be lost.

well said ronin, kids these days know nothing of their roots, without DB/DBZ we wouldnt be here right now interacting with each other, remember that.

[Masaki]

Ladies and Gentlemen, the whole Dragonball series has officially ended in America. (Just gotta watch the Cell Series and I can say I saw all of it!)

...Now what am I going to watch on Saturdays other than FMA?

[Rurouni]

Ladies and Gentlemen, the whole Dragonball series has officially ended in America. (Just gotta watch the Cell Series and I can say I saw all of it!)

...Now what am I going to watch on Saturdays other than FMA?

Yeah, I watched it too. (I mentally kicked myself for not recording it :amuse) I find it odd that Saiyans (Or 6/100 of a Saiyan or something like that) at such a young age can go Super so easily.

[Code]

so a certain point, yes...
but i think there was a mistranslation or something in the Freeza Battle =|
though i shouldnt used a scanlation an example, but i'll do it anyways.
the manga said "a few mintues" till the planet explodes, the dubbed said "five mintues". now a few mintues could be anything, so that would make sense why the battle took like 5 eps.
Well in the dub Freiza said the planet is a 'big birdie' and it's tough so it won't blow up as fast as he thought.

There's also the fact that 1 chapter can span over 3 episodes such as the spirit bomb thing.

[liminosse]

DBZ = ownz, i remeber watching back in 95-96 on satellite on a channel that never airred anythin just the bleep thing all day except saturdays or sundays can't emeber they showed DBZ, least the ones pioneer dubbed... i gots all the dbz episodes and i still watch em sometimes

your right ,ost people probly like it at one time.... 65million+ people accually, not saying its great animation or a terrific story but its a classic... he its way better then He-man... still ranks in my top 5 of greatest animes ever :)

[Masaki]

Yeah, I watched it too. (I mentally kicked myself for not recording it :amuse) I find it odd that Saiyans (Or 6/100 of a Saiyan or something like that) at such a young age can go Super so easily.

Unless Pan and Trunks got together, then the two Super Saiyans were 6.25% of a Saiyan, so yeah, you were right.

But they probably went Super Saiyan because their ancestors probably were Super Saiyans themselves (a shame Pan never went Super Saiyan and Vegeta's 2nd kid did not contribute to the show at all).

[.:Solid Snake:.]

Meh, I use to watch it, but I gave up on it after the androids since all they do is depend on Goku. Nevertheless, it's a decent show though, but I prefer Yu Yu Hakusho more.

[Rurouni]

Unless Pan and Trunks got together, then the two Super Saiyans were 6.25% of a Saiyan, so yeah, you were right.

But they probably went Super Saiyan because their ancestors probably were Super Saiyans themselves (a shame Pan never went Super Saiyan and Vegeta's 2nd kid did not contribute to the show at all).

Probably. I was just stating that Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. are so young (6 or 7 maybe?) yet, they're able to go Super when Goku went Super when he was already an adult. (I think that's it one of the down points of the DB series that the Saiyans, esp. their descendants, just keep getting stronger and stronger and stronger...)

[Rayl]

I enjoyed the flow of DB but as it went into Z i felt that it had gone downhill slightly, although i still enjoyed it.. just not as much as DB. When GT aired though... i felt quite disgusted with how... cliche it had become. I was also annoyed that both GT and Z had ended with Goku using the Genki Dama, it kinda made the attack cheap >.>

[Kira Yamato]

I think DBZ is a great anime. It was a gateway anime for me and had a great storyline (for the most part). My favorite saga had to be the cell saga, probably because it showcased Gohan at his best. I hear that most people would have wanted it to end after the Frieza saga, but I have no complaints. However GT didn't really have to be.

It sometimes seem that people view DBZ as something that has to be grown out of or "over the hill" because sometimes it seem repeptitive or oversimplified, but that can be seen in any anime. It's all perspective and if anyone wants to find something they'll eventually find it.

[Jack Bauer]

DBZ was alright. I only saw the Cell Games which caught my attention but then it just go to a WTF point. It was waaay to repitive but it's popularity back in like 1999 was crazy. Even more than pokemon. I bet if DBZ didnt come out here, thenit wouldnt have raised awareness of anime in America. Of course its obvious that Kishimoto was inspired by Toriyama except that Naruto exceeds DBZ in charater, plot, storyline, fights, everything.

[Masaki]

DBZ was alright. I only saw the Cell Games which caught my attention but then it just go to a WTF point. It was waaay to repitive but it's popularity back in like 1999 was crazy. Even more than pokemon. I bet if DBZ didnt come out here, thenit wouldnt have raised awareness of anime in America. Of course its obvious that Kishimoto was inspired by Toriyama except that Naruto exceeds DBZ in charater, plot, storyline, fights, everything.

Naruto doesn't exceed DBZ in characters' power!

[Code]

Naruto doesn't exceed DBZ in characters' power!
And naruto doesn't exceed it in unpredictability... And in cheesiness...

[nigggs]

you guys can bad mouth DB/DBZ all you want, but it did pave the way for anime, thats a fact?

[Masaki]

you guys can bad mouth DB/DBZ all you want, but it did pave the way for anime, thats a fact?

Of course. And no matter what I say about it, it's still one of my top animes.

...Hold on, when did you become a mod?

[NeoSlayer666]

DBZ was great for what it was. An anime that kept you coming back for more to see what happened. Yeah there was alot of filler and yeah it got old sometimes, but when you finally see whomever destroy whomever you know u were just like "F YEAH THAT WAS SWEET!" I mean by no means is it the greatest anymore, but go compare it with what was out at the time. Not many other animes shined through like DB/Z did. Sure there was gundam and stuff like that, but DBZ was great when it came out. Unfortunately funimation destroyed it with dubbing -_-;;;; I also was a fan of Yu Yu Hakusho. Lets not forget that anime too!! It came out around the same time as DBZ maybe a bit later? Pretty much the same thing, those animes are all about suspense. But yeah DBZ was/is sweet, and even if you HATE DBZ, I suggest you buy Budokai 3 because it is one hell of a fighting game regardless of how u feel about the series lol.

[Kid Saiyan]

I loooove it!
anyone else here ike it?!

[Potentialflip]

Loved it. Not into it anymore. Too repetitive IMO.

[Kazuya Mishima]

It was ok, but after frieza the series was lame.

[Kid Saiyan]

it needs a new saga...the cell, frieza and Buu sagas were ok...but a new one would be better!
I hate the Cell saga now!
seen too much of it!

[Potentialflip]

After Buu saga I stopped and just watched the DB/Z/GT movies. You should check them out if you love it a lot.

[Paean]

I both like(d) it and dislike(d) it.

For one thing, it's interesting to see the main character grow up, get married, have kids of his own, etc. Some of the scenes were emotionally poignant too, such as the whole Father-Son Kamehame bit at the end of the Cell Saga.

For another thing, the pacing of the series is really slow. You have 30 minute episodes wherein the fighters involved do nothing but trash talk and pose for about 20 minutes, and the whole thing can get ridiculous at other times as well. (There are entire episodes, it seems, where characters do nothing but gawk at how powerful the bad guy has become.)

[Tenderfoot]

one of the best anime i ever watched...u don know why people complain about its length nice long animes rock!

[Kid Saiyan]

LOL...you've all got great points!
I also sometimes hate the trash talk...

I REALLY WANT TO SEE THE BROLY MOVIE!!
But i can't!

[gallacher]

Hello, I'm new to Dragonball, and would like to watch this anime.
I'm just curious, is there any difference in Dragonball / Dragonball GT / Dragonball Z ?

Which series should I watch first? (to start from the very beginning)

Thanks for the clarification!

[Tenderfoot]

yes there is a difference, u shld watch in this order : Dragonball;Dragonball Z;Dragonball GT

[Tracespeck]

Just watch DB and DBZ, forget that they ever made GT...

Also it doesn't really matter if you watch DBZ before DB even though DB takes place first.

[Psyconorikan]

DB/DBZ/GT gt is not that bad, actually my least favorite one was dragonball. well, have fun ^^

[Neon]

Skip GT if you know what’s good for you. Dragonball takes place first but it is more comedy then action, where dbz is alot of fighting. You can start with DBZ no problem though, i would recommend by the soon to be released ultimate uncut DBZ dvd's being released i think this month :)

[Code]

Just watch DB and DBZ, forget that they ever made GT...

Also it doesn't really matter if you watch DBZ before DB even though DB takes place first.
Well you'll miss out on basically 90% of the plot, characters, backstory, techniques, and world if you watch DBZ before DB... It's like starting Naruto from chapter 245...(well exactly like doing that).

I'd say watch DB then DBZ.

DB is more comedy/adventure(like One Piece if you've seen that) while DBZ(like Naruto) is action.

[Tracespeck]

It's not like starting Naruto at chapter 245. When DBZ starts its an almost completely new plot. Naruto carries over the plot from part one. Thats the big difference.

[martryn]

Don't bother watching anything past the first DB, and if you venture into DBZ, be sure to stop at the end of Freiza. It just gets silly after that.

[Code]

It's not like starting Naruto at chapter 245. When DBZ starts its an almost completely new plot. Naruto carries over the plot from part one. Thats the big difference.
Well it would be like "how the hell did they do that?" "Who the hell are these people" "What's thier relationship?" and "Why the F*** did the main character die in the 1st episode?" and so on. Naruto starts a new plot in part 245... The old plot had nothing to do with Akatsuki/Demon hunting... it started by introducing the likelihood of more people like the main character(of his demonic-ness) and DBZ's started with introducing the likelihood of more people like main character.(Of his race)

[Tracespeck]

Well it would be like "how the hell did they do that?" "Who the hell are these people" "What's thier relationship?" and "Why the F*** did the main character die in the 1st episode?"

As someone who saw DBZ first, those weren't really questions. Why he died in the first episode was explained in the first episode. They also explain in the first episode about saiyains and stuff.

The Akatsuki appeared before chapter 245. The Oro and Sasuke plot was carried over as well. The story is a lot more interwoven in Naruto.

[martryn]

Yeah, I gotta agree with Tracespeck here. I didn't even know there was a DB until I had watched most of DBZ.

[Jones]

forget dbgt. watch all of dragonball and up to the frieza saga and the tournament at the end of the cell saga, that's really good. the buu saga is just a load of crap. ignore it. watch the movies, they are sometimes entertaining, especially the tree of might, thats the best.

[Code]

The same people who didn't knwo were a DB thought DBZ was shallow with shallow characters, no plot, etc... Akatsuki apperaed before. So did all the other DBZ characters...for example the whole Android/Cell saga was a previous villain in Dragonball. The shock isn't nearly as much if it's like 'hmm...wow they have a red ribbon so what?"

[Neon]

I started with Dbz myself, never actually watched DB till around the cell arc, though in hindsight I would have liked to have started with DB

[wolfman_120]

You should for sure start with Dragonball, then watch Dragonball Z. And if you really like it then you can watch Dragonball GT because it was probably the worst, I am not saying it was bad but it wasn't better than Z or the original.

[¤Naruto-Kun¤]

Just watch DB and DBZ, forget that they ever made GT...

Also it doesn't really matter if you watch DBZ before DB even though DB takes place first.

exactly, but i alsho have to say Z/GT were great... :P

[Ha-ri]

Don't bother watching anything past the first DB, and if you venture into DBZ, be sure to stop at the end of Freiza. It just gets silly after that.

Well some of the cell saga was good, but I hated that everytime they killed buu, he juts regenerated. Personally I liked the Freiza saga best.

[Gaara-of-the-desert]

Hey does anyone know where i can get sub torrents for dragonball gt and Z?

I want to finish watching it, I've seen like 1/3 of dbz and like half of gt.

Help appreciated.

I like it still.

[Gaara-of-the-desert]

Aww c'mon not even one 2 viewed, it's pitifull.

[Code]

boxtorrents.com has it... or should have it or #anime-element and #anime-suprime on irc.rizon.net(irc server).

I belive the views is 1 more than the # of posts...always.

[CABLE]

anyone know a good Dragonball(not Z or GT) IRC channel?

[-InnerGarra-]

I would like to know too.

[TenshiOni]

All threads about Dragonball/Z/GT have been merged. Carry on!

[Ziko]

I am looking for dragonball episodes but i cant find anything!!!

[Code]

I am looking for dragonball episodes but i cant find anything!!!
boxtorrents.com has them. Dual audio (sub/Japanese + dub)

http://www.dbzdivx.com/tracker/mystats.php has some also.

[Warsaint777]

If there are any fans here of the original Dragon Ball, preferably before things got a little out of hand (probably right after Nappa died), you probably really liked the human characters of the Dragon Ball world. You probably also especially loved the "strongest under the heavens tournament" sagas, where we got to see most of our favorite characters' awesome power. I have to say It started to bother me as Goku started becoming insanely more powerful than any of the other characters, like way way more powerful, and once my five fave human characters just got there asses raped trying to fight Nappa (with the exceptions of how cool it was whenever they managed to get a blow or two on him), well, the series just went downhill. After that, the humans didn't even do anything, but actually manged to still always be sitting and watching in the background, doing absolutely nothing. It was humiliating. Everything had to be about super-androids, mega-powerful aliens from other planets, or the absolute infinate strength of the "Saiyans". All I remember is a single scene where Ten almost killed himself merely trying to stall some alien-monster thing with an amazing new Ki-Ko-Ho. Then he passed out and that was it. I can't believe how dissapointing things became after the "Vegeta" saga...

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knew where I could download the best Ten/Kuririn/Yamucha/Chiouzu/Yajirobe episodes of dragonball. I know that would include both Tenkaichi Bodukai (sp?) sagas, but also some scattered episodes that included any of the human characters actually kicking some serious ass. If some uber-dragonball nerd were to give me the number of some of those episodes and/or where to find them, I'd do a happy dance.

Or just tell about a point in the Dragonball series about the human characters that you really thought was cool. I'd like to hear them, cuz I haven't watched the entire DragonBall/DBZ anime.

[Raistlin-sama]

Kurinin vs Kame-sennin (Kame-sennin>you)
Goku vs Kame-sennin (Kame-sennin>you)
Tenshinhan vs Kame-sennin (Kame-sennin>you)
Goku vs Tenshinhan (Pretty good battle, with a lot of kicking ass on both sides)
Goku Vs tao bai bai (How can you not love the guy?)
Goku vs his grandad (Goku's grandad is awesome)
Yajirobi VS Piccolo spawn (mainly for the humorous interaction between him and Goku)

(Any battle involving Kame-sennin in any way is ultimate coolness:P )

Oh and I think Kame-sennin's name was changed to Master Roshi in America, just if you don't know who I'm talking about...

Also I'm aware that a lot of these battles have Goku in them, but they also have a kickass human

I would also higly recomend reading the manga-version of Dragonball, since the anime was screwed up... (mainly DBZ, but the DB anime was not excactly a perfect conversion either, although more enjoyeble)

[Viral]

This news is almost 2 months old but i didnt find any topic on it.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=7204

When it says that the anniversary of the tv series will be held in February does that mean they could have a tv special like A Heroes Legacy or will it be like a tribute to Akira Toriyama.

[Mr. Vash]

Check out this humorous flash video: http://www.deviantart.com/view/31879876/

funny :amuse

[Sieg]

Interesting.
The 'strong' thing got old quickly.

[ANBU_assassin]

heyy i just finshed watchign DBGT!! just wondering y on teh lst episdoe goku goes with Shenron's.,, any know where they go!!and y

[Ziko]

I cant use Boxtorrents...I cant sign up...

[lazer85]

Can anyone lead me to Dragonball and Dragonball Z downloads that come in bulks of less than 20 episodes. I CAN NOT fit 35 Gigs on my computer at once. I'd also really prefer it in Japanese with english subs rather than dubbed.

I don't need the first 20 eps of Dragonball but everything after that.

Thaaaank youuuuu.

[TheBlindHyuuga]

you're going to have a hard time with that....dragonball and dragonball Z torrents are hard to come by and the only ones that I have found are those 34 gig ones....and they are in english...it would be extremely difficult to find the japanese fansubs....I have only found like 3 eps of the original japanese ones and that was over 2 years ago...when Kazaa and WinMX were useful...and they were of the later parts of the Buu saga.

so...if you want DB and DBZ that bad...you need to either find a direct d/l fansite with crappy quality eps....or get an external hard drive and get those 34 gig packs.

[Gunners]

Dude, could you please, post me a link of that torrent, is it well seeded?

[TheBlindHyuuga]

dragonball complete series:

http://www.mininova.org/tor/169656

dragonball Z complete:
two different torrents...second one has more seeders (around 80) and is smaller in size but it wouldn't surprise me if the files are ogg or something
http://www.mininova.org/tor/171675

http://www.mininova.org/tor/195795

I've only gotten the dragonball one so far and it finished yesterday....it went pretty fast...but still took several days.

[Hokage Naruto]

http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=dragonball - High Dragonball Seeds.
http://www.torrentreactor.to/torrents/view_60906/dragonball_z_all_movies_specials - All the movies.
http://www.torrentattack.org/anime/dragonball_z/ - Tons of DBZ torrents.
http://www.torrentportal.com/details/306982/Dragonball.torrent

Now, I need the manga volumes. I am a bit behind in that.

[Edgecrusher]

I used it w/o signing up earlier this year but for some reason even with VLC player they won't play properly, so I just gave up.

[Ziko]

I know this is an old thread but is there any IRC channel that has alot of subbed/dual audio DBZ episodes?

[Kira Yamato]

For DB/DBZ/DBGT you can check out anime Upload (http://www.animeupload.com/)

You'll be able to find all of the episodes and movies there.

[Ziko]

Avi,rm? Japanese,english?

[Kira Yamato]

Avi,rm? Japanese,english?


It's a combination. It depends on the uploader, I believe, but the episodes I downloaded were in RM format and in english. Only the 13th movie was fansubbed I believe that I picked up.

The site offers anime uploads of any format. So, one saturday I ended up downloading MKV files of DearS, RM files of DBZ episodes, and RM files of YuYu Hakusho episodes.

You'll probably see more than one download of the same episode, so try it out and see if they have the version you want.

[Ziko]

Yeah but im looking for dual audio and not Rm. But thanks anyway!

[chaoserver]

Alright. First of all Im not a DBZ hater, heck I have the Buu saga on dvd and about seventy action figures. :wink

I used to think it was amazing, but after maturing more and rewatching the series I felt that, although it's good for what it is(a fighting anime), it's not really good, and certainly not great as an anime in general.

It's pretty much senseless violence, tied loosely with a weak plot. And although the plot could be acceptable if other elements were present, they aren't. The only emotional moment I can think of is when Vegeta sacrifices himself(although in the back of your head you realize that he can be revived anyways), which doesn't even compare to scenes from most other animes.

It had potential, and had good moments... Parts of the Freeza saga, certain fights, Buu's destruction... But out of countless episodes it just isn't enough to be what some hail as the best anime. If death wasn't treated like an enjoyable sleep, there was some method to powerups/power, and emotions were harnessed more it could be close, considering the great fights, although the battles really lack strategy in most cases...

Again, Im not saying it sucks, but some people feel its the greatest anime of all time, and I can't see how thats really possible.

Agree? Disagree?

[Suzumebachi]

That was waaaaaaaaay back when everyone was in fifth grade that DBZ was the greatest anime ever.

I still like it, the only problem is the assholes who say its the worst anime ever, with nothing but stupid fights and no story, when you know those people watched every episode on Toonami just like the rest of us.

[Level 70 Orc Ninja]

Worst anime ever? Definitely not. I think DB/DBZ pretty much innovated fighting anime to what we see today.

Overrated? Other than the fact that it brought a whole new perspective to anime, I do think it's a tad overrated. It just wasn't "WOW" good but I respect it for its existance.

BTW: DB > DBZ

[Wesley]

DBZ is history. It's like the Super Nintendo of Shonen. Look back on it fondly and remember the good times.

[Wondermilk]

I just get pissed off with my older brothers saying it tops every anime and exsistance.

other than that, I remember watching it all the time with them.

But I still like DB more

[ydraliskos]

No it's not overrated, it was just that fucking good.

[Kaaspeer]

You sir, should wash your mouth.

DBZ WAS AWESOME! But i watched it when i was like 7 and me and my buddies would be like KAMEHAMEHA!!!!

I mean comon, who didn't play dbz when they were little...?

[chaoserver]

You sir, should wash your mouth.

DBZ WAS AWESOME! But i watched it when i was like 7 and me and my buddies would be like KAMEHAMEHA!!!!

I mean comon, who didn't play dbz when they were little...?
Well, it is just my opinon so no need to break out the soap. I wasn't saying it wasn't good, or that I didn't watch it when I was little. Perhaps read the post?

[crazymtf]

DB-DBZ will always be a classic. Good series, overrated? Use to be now it gets shit on more then praised by a large margin. I don't mind the show at all but to say it tops alot of anime these days, now that's laughable.

[Shiron]

Alright. First of all Im not a DBZ hater, heck I have the Buu saga on dvd and about seventy action figures. :wink

I used to think it was amazing, but after maturing more and rewatching the series I felt that, although it's good for what it is(a fighting anime), it's not really good, and certainly not great as an anime in general.

It's pretty much senseless violence, tied loosely with a weak plot. And although the plot could be acceptable if other elements were present, they aren't. The only emotional moment I can think of is when Vegeta sacrifices himself(although in the back of your head you realize that he can be revived anyways), which doesn't even compare to scenes from most other animes.

It had potential, and had good moments... Parts of the Freeza saga, certain fights, Buu's destruction... But out of countless episodes it just isn't enough to be what some hail as the best anime. If death wasn't treated like an enjoyable sleep, there was some method to powerups/power, and emotions were harnessed more it could be close, considering the great fights, although the battles really lack strategy in most cases...

Again, Im not saying it sucks, but some people feel its the greatest anime of all time, and I can't see how thats really possible.

Agree? Disagree? I agree. I feel pretty much the same way with DBZ and DB GT. However, I think Dragonball was pretty good, for the most part.

[shizuru]

rock the dragon:nuts it was the first aninme series i got into and Toriyama-sans art style was what i used to learn how to draw manga:nuts fav characters hmmmm I'd say..... gohan (kid) trunks goten android 18 and kid goku.

[Catterix]

For its time, when long running animes were low, Dragonball was incredible. Also, if you think abouts its progression. It started off as an actual parody manga making fun of the Kung Fu films out there that took themselves way too seriously, then progressed into being more about Martial Arts itself, then progressed to Chinese Legends (The Whole Piccolo Saga in DB) then SciFi and space with the arrival of the saiyans, and going off to Namek. Then, still SciFi but now about Time Travelling, Future, Robots (And I must say, the whole DBZ theory on Future and time travelling was incredibly unique and thought provoking) and Genetics and cloning (Cell), and then into Western Magic legends with the whole Buu and Babidi stuff.

Given that it was only meant to be a short one shot, I think the series did especially well and held its own as the writer, Toriyama, had tried to finish it several times. For example, did you know, the Z part of the anime's name was actually meant to signify the show would be coming to an end soon... that poor man :P

DB Rocks. DBZ is very good, however, the anime is drawn out a bit too much. DBGT... Well, its not canon, is completely filler and wasn't written by Toriyama, it was just a copy of the old stories of DB/Z but done badly :P However, the fights n music were good.

I think DBZ would make an AWESOME Short series now, with all the improvements in animation. Like a 70 ep series or a series of OVAs, I mean just look at the openings to the Budokai games... How awesome would they be? :P N then it could just be looked on as an intense, fun and light hearted action show, which was what it was before US Anime Geeks tried saying it was the most emotional and mature storyline out there...

[shizuru]

I think DBZ would make an AWESOME Short series now, with all the improvements in animation. Like a 70 ep series or a series of OVAs, I mean just look at the openings to the Budokai games...
:amuse yes the openings of the budokai games are just pure brilliance, i wish they'ed make an aniversery series of it... like japanese viewers best loved arc for example? and not the great classic tail of how goku and bulma meet again:notrust dont get me wrong the 10 year aniversery special was brilliant in the dbgt art style but i think it would be best if they did a best loved arc special me thinkssmile-big

[Violent Man]

DRAGONBALL Z MOVIE 13: WRATH OF THE DRAGON!!!!!

Funimation has released a trailer and it's badass. I can't wait for this movie to come out. For those of you who like DBZ make sure to check it out.

Click Hear (http://media.funimation.com/trailers/DBZ/DBZ_Movie13_Medium.asx)

[Catterix]

Wow that trailer (minus the bad "ghostly voice over") was actually brilliant.

www.daizex.com

Go there ^ and you can download the original Japanese trailer for the film.

Edit: Bad FUNimation mistake... they called it "Dragonb Fire" .... NO! It's Dragon FIST!! Gagh.

[blazingshadow]

IMO the dragon ball saga was awesome and the best that could happen to the shounen genre. now we see it as junk and in a way ppl are right thinking that way but it was a revolutionary anime and the standard that ppl will have to beat in order to get the attention of fans (have any of you heard ppl comparing any anime to DBZ?) simply put the saga did what it had to do (bring out anime from the pits and bring money into the industry) ppl move on to better things, that always happens but i can honestly say that the db sagas could be considered as a checkpoint in anime history

[Kira Yamato]

I've always been a fan of the series. My first introduction was dragonball Z and I have to say it was a gateway anime for everything else that came in my viewing experience. I was hooked during the end of the Frieza saga and I think it peaked during the cell Saga. I hold it as a historical marker in terms of my anime viewing so I always hold a special place for it when I think anime.

If someone asked what's my top 5 anime, DBZ may not come up, but it has been so influential in my anime viewing it's hard not to think DBZ when talking about anime in general.

For for it's ability to open up the gateway towards anime in general it gets the stigma of being constantly overrated. Whihc is really sad. It's a quality series that shouldn't be put in god-like status but in the same token shouldn't suffer too much ridicule.

[Arazial]

^
Yeah, I'm a fan of Dragonball/Z (I don't like gt though) and while it's not the greatest, it's definitely a fun series to watch. I still watch my old fansubs every once in awhile when I'm bored.

As you were saying about the ridicule against this series. It's a shame, but it's probably due to alot of older hardcore anime fans that don't want to be put into the same grouping as the younger generation. Like how you'll see in most hated anime posts where people hate all the younger generation stuff, even when it's not for their age group.

What happened to dbz reminds me of Final Fantasy VII amongst hardcore old school final fantasy fans. Many did and still do, put that game down because they don't want to be grouped with all the rpg newbies that got hooked with ff7. That's why many say that FF1-4 are the best without really any backing besides that it's old school before the series was ruined.

But anyways back to dbz, I got hooked on it years ago when a friend of mine used to have a satellite station called the International channel. We used to watch the raw dbz eps awhile before cartoon network started airing them. I first heard of the series when they used to show alot of the figures and super famicom games available in videogame magazines in the import pages.

All in all, fun series to watch. Definitely not the greatest, and it's a shame at all the negative publicity it get's from some so-called "Hardcore" anime fans.

[crazymtf]

^
Yeah, I'm a fan of Dragonball/Z (I don't like gt though) and while it's not the greatest, it's definitely a fun series to watch. I still watch my old fansubs every once in awhile when I'm bored.

As you were saying about the ridicule against this series. It's a shame, but it's probably due to alot of older hardcore anime fans that don't want to be put into the same grouping as the younger generation. Like how you'll see in most hated anime posts where people hate all the younger generation stuff, even when it's not for their age group.

What happened to dbz reminds me of Final Fantasy VII amongst hardcore old school final fantasy fans. Many did and still do, put that game down because they don't want to be grouped with all the rpg newbies that got hooked with ff7. That's why many say that FF1-4 are the best without really any backing besides that it's old school before the series was ruined.

But anyways back to dbz, I got hooked on it years ago when a friend of mine used to have a satellite station called the International channel. We used to watch the raw dbz eps awhile before cartoon network started airing them. I first heard of the series when they used to show alot of the figures and super famicom games available in videogame magazines in the import pages.

All in all, fun series to watch. Definitely not the greatest, and it's a shame at all the negative publicity it get's from some so-called "Hardcore" anime fans.
I couldn't have said it any better myself, especially the final fantasy part, goodjob :amuse

[Kira Yamato]

Yeah, I think there's some image of the typical DBZ fan as some person who thinks DBZ is the end-all anime and no anime title could top it. The whole thing about the generation gap most likely does play a role in why DBZ is so polarized.

It kind of shocks me how some people come to hate DBZ because too many people have fallen in love with it. And when high praises are heaped on the DB franchise, people become disillussioned and come to hate it. But I don't people should take into account what others opinions are of the title. It's all about the viewer and their personal experiences with the anime. If someone like it they shouldn't be afraid to say it, because of how they'll be viewed by others.


Another part that's usually in contention is that DBZ may have been tarnished because it should have ended earlier. Like I mentioned before I loved the Sayian Saga and the introduction of Trunks. It was seriously kick-ass when he came in and man-handled Frieza :P

I started watching the DB Saga towards the end of the DBZ saga. And I have to say DB was just as good, but I enjoyed it for different reasons than DBZ.
DBGT...will it was interesting towards the latter half of that series :laugh

And my first introduction to DBZ was CN, but I got some friends to hook me up with fansubs of the Majin Buu Saga....I was so nervous watching it for the simple fact that my Mom is a christian and would have freaked out if she heard the word Mr.satan mentioned in it :S

[Arazial]

I was so nervous watching it for the simple fact that my Mom is a christian and would have freaked out if she heard the word Mr.satan mentioned in it :S


You could've just said his name was Mr. Satin who was named that for the Satin clothing he wore :nod
When I saw the raw episodes I thought his name was Sata-ru (yes I know I'm butchering the language) since that's what it sounded like his fans were yelling. I also didn't now the whole Videl part till I got some fansubs. Before that I thought her name was Bideru. (which I think is still somewhat correct?) So I never caught the whole Devil references.

[crazymtf]

I thought DB was a great start off of the series. Good fights, good comedy, good characters, just plain old good. Dragonball Z was also good but during cell i was pretty bored. I mean Andriod saga was well done, goku, the main hero out! And who was there left? Picollo? And even the mighty green warrior fell to 17, or would of. Then we have Super Vegeta which to me was pretty bad ass but then that's when it started to bore me. Trunks fight wasn't to my liking with cell. I mean Trunks vs meca frizza was great. Trunks, some new kid with purple hair comes along and slices up the very guy who even gave SUPER SAIYAN GOKU! A hard time. So it was pure badass. Buu was mostly bad in my opinion. I mean the standout eps were Gohan coming back and kicking the living shit out of Buu. Pure fucking badass. And Vagitto toying around was fun aswell. But to me they stretched out DBZ a bit to long and GT second half was the only good part. Well this is all my opinion anyway :P

[Arazial]

Buu was mostly bad in my opinion. I mean the standout eps were Gohan coming back and kicking the living shit out of Buu. Pure fucking badass. And Vagitto toying around was fun aswell. But to me they stretched out DBZ a bit to long and GT second half was the only good part. Well this is all my opinion anyway :P


The Buu saga did seem to drag at various points, and some of it was boring yeah. But I liked the Majin Vegeta stuff (and his sacrifice), and I thought the Gotenks fight was really enjoyable as well. It was a fun fight with alot of humor, something that some major fights have lacked since the original Dragonball.

[crazymtf]

Gotenks did bring humor but after awhile he got on my nerves, i was like "KILL HIM YOU DUMB FUCK IDIOT" I'd kill my kid if he acted so stupid. I mean SS3 Gotenks was nice as hell though. Majin Vegeta sacrfice might of been one of my fav eps. To see vegeta do somthing so...nice? It was just crazy.

[blazingshadow]

i didn't like vegeta losing all the time and making piccollo too weak after his last fight with 17 but it still was pretty good.

[Kira Yamato]

I still thought Picollo was pretty strong during the Makin Buu Saga...well enough that it warranted Buu to absorb him along with Gotenks. Yeah, I know the main purpose of absorbing himwas moreso for his knowledge of the other Z fighters battle capabilities, but it kinda showed that he was still valuable. Having the knowledge of the guy who trained your opponent (Gohan) was a wicked idea.

And the Vegeta/Goku fight during the Buu saga was one of my favorite fights of all time. I especially liked that impassioned speech he made to Goku before they started battling. Too bad it ended on a sour note. But you know Vegeta was super pissed that Goku wasn't fighting at his full potential xDD

[Ziko]

Aww...You guys have the fasubs? Youre so lucky...They are no where to be found right now...You can fid it on torrent but the it doesnt have any seeders.... Could anyone upload the eps on rapidshare or something for me?
Like upload ep 1, i download ep 1, you take down ep 1 and upload ep 2!!!

[Kira Yamato]

I got my DBZ fansubs back in '96, which meant VHS tapes xDDD
It would have been impossible for me to download anything back in those days with slow internet speeds and a tiny HD xDD

Most of the DBZ episodes I see now around the net are mostly funi's version of the series, but I guess there are those who still have the fansubs :oh

[Arazial]

^
Yeah mine are all vhs fansubs as well. Sadly some are seemingly 4th generation or so, so the quality can be pretty bad.

But if you wanted to watch eps back than on computer they were those horrid,tiny,crap quality realplayer movies.

[saiya-jin]

You guys haven't lived until you have seen Movie 13, look it up on YouTube!

[Kira Yamato]

I remember watching some of the earlier DBZ fansub movies on real player and the quality was horrible. Although it didn't surprise me, because the VHS versions weren't all that good either.

I'd rather watch the present day uncut versions then the fansubs. I can't remember what the fansub would have kept in that the uncut version didn't. I could only imagine that the Uncut Funi version added certain background music that wasn't in the original...other than that the uncut version should be pretty similar.

[Arazial]

You guys haven't lived until you have seen Movie 13, look it up on YouTube!


I saw movie 13 like 8-10 years ago or so, didn't really care for it. Than again I'm not a fan of any of the dbz movies (though somewhat 8/12).

[Kira Yamato]

The only movies I slightly enjoyed we're movie 7-9. I don't know why but I loved the Bojacks/Gohan fight. In some ways it seemed anti-climatic, but I love Gohan finnally pulling through in the end. And poor Vegeta and Trunks we're no match for Bojacks and his crew :-(

I also enjoyed the first Brolly movie and the whole idea behind the legendary Super Sayian. Too bad the story still doesn't help dispell the apparent inconsistency with their being on Super Sayian born every 10,000 years -____-

[crazymtf]

Movie 8 9 10 and 12 were all good IMO. Fansubs i use to have, all the VHS tapes back in 94 when i was like 5-6 :P Now i buy the Funi dvds, which aren't to bad, i like most of the voices except KID trunks...eh...Gotenks is hella cool though :) And adult gohan has a nice deep voice and goku's voice is OK, but somtimes to weak sounding.

[Kira Yamato]

How could I forget movie 12 and SSJ2 Gogeta :shakefist

That was a cool fight scene between Gogeta and Janemba. Although his finishing move kind of lacks in "umph". I mean even in the videogame I wonder what kind of move cna just disintegrate their opponent in such a method. But nonetheless it was still cool. Especially the two trying to do the fusion dance :nod

[Arazial]

Yeah that final attack while it looked kinda cool, was a little lame in the execution. Regardless movie 12 was probably my favorite of the dbz movies with 8 a ways behind. Besides them I just didn't care for the movies.

Also in movie 12, it was kinda neat seeing some of the older villains when they got released from hell. And Goten and Trunks against Hitler... :laugh .

[crazymtf]

^Haha hitler, lmao. Jea 12 was pretty cool. 13 was good in some ways, like tapion was a great character but everyone seemed to be weakened to a tie. Gotenks getting defeated in one hit and gohan ultimate mode? Come on :P

[Kira Yamato]

Hitler is one serious bad-ass dude, but Trunks and Goten were abit overkill for them xDD

And yeah, seeing all the older villains come back was kinda nostalgic especially since it occurred in one of the movies.

But for Vegeta to do something as embarssing as the Fusion dance you knew he was desperate. I mean if Piccollo was embarassed how in the world would Vegeta be able to pull it off xD

[crazymtf]

Vegeta: I'd rather die.
Goku: But...your already dead.
*Vegeta takes a deep breath in and lets it out*
Hahaha.

[Kira Yamato]

^:rotfl

and that reminds me, of the fact that Vegeta and Goku would have never had the opportunity for such a team-up in the "other" world if this had fit accurately in the time line. Vegeta was only dead during the Buu saga and came back to life towards the end to do the Potaro earring fusion with Goku xD

Well, I dont dwell too much on the inconsistencies of the anime timelines, because it allowed for such a cool movie premise :lmao

[crazymtf]

I think DBZ did well and the best thing was those "Great" moments. DB series in all to me was more entertain but there was no scean that stood out, it was just a blend of goodness. DBZ was like good-bad-good-bad-OH SHIT NICE-good-bad. That's what i felt anyway. For those OMG moments i'd have to go with.
Goku Using kio-ken 3= I mean holy hell did goku get strong or what? And that powerup was hella cool. Then Kio-ken X4 was nice with the kamahamha.
Goku Going Super Saiyan = This would be like one of the most memorible sceans. I don't think goku ever wanted to KILL anyone as much as now. He was furious and had the right to be.
Gohan Going Super Saiyan Two = Pretty badass and to kill all the little cell's in like one hit = pure badass. Then to beat the shit out of cell for awhile was great to watch. And the famous Father-Son Kamahamaha.
Gohan After Elder Kai's Training = Pure badass. He beat buu with such ease it made him look so cool. Then he even pissed off buu enough to make him blow himself up.
Goko going super sayian Three = "And this...is to go BEYOND!!!" Super Saiyan Three with all that eletricity and power = Just wow.
Gotenks Going Super Saiyan Three = Badass power user. How much power do these little kids have?
Spirit Bomb to Buu =It was nice to see goku say "Hopefully i'll fight you again just as a regular fighter.

This is all Opinion but those parts stood out.

[Kira Yamato]

Yeah, the DBZ powerups we're pretty impresssive.

Piccollo merging w/nails: Great move, because we know that the training on King Kai's planet wasn't going to be enough for the fight against Frieza. And that power up did force Frieza into revealing yet another form and an opportunity for Vegeta to yet again gain extra strenght.

Piccollo fusion w/Kami: It was a long time coming, and imagine how much power they would have had if they had originally stayed together ^_^
The fight with Base Cell and then Android 17 was pure awesomeness.


Goku's SSJ1 AND SSJ3 transformation were great for many reasons. And even though SSJ1 was the transformation that started the main trend, I still leans more toward the SSJ3 transformation, because it was something he had up his sleeve all along.

It had me thinking wow, what would have happened if he had unleashed that ability against Vegeta during their fight? xDD

[Gene]

DBZ:
Kaio-ken(sp?) x4 Goku's kamehameha vs Vegeta's galick gun.
Goku going SSJ for the first time.
SSJ Trunks pwning both Frieza and King Cold.
Vegeta blowing himself up to try to kill Fat Buu.
Goku going SSJ3.
Trunks + Goten fusing into Gotenks.

Dragon Ball:
Goku turning into a giant ape for the first time.
Master Roshi going all buff and blowing up the moon.
Goku beating the entire Red Ribbon Army by himself.
Goku get hit by a car and losing to Tien during one of the World Martial Arts Tournament.

These are the moments that stood out the most for me. And I gotta agree that DBZ has more of those "omg wtf?1" moments.

[crazymtf]

DBZ:
Kaio-ken(sp?) x4 Goku's kamehameha vs Vegeta's galick gun.
Goku going SSJ for the first time.
SSJ Trunks pwning both Frieza and King Cold.
Vegeta blowing himself up to try to kill Fat Buu.
Goku going SSJ3.
Trunks + Goten fusing into Gotenks.

Dragon Ball:
Goku turning into a giant ape for the first time.
Master Roshi going all buff and blowing up the moon.
Goku beating the entire Red Ribbon Army by himself.
Goku get hit by a car and losing to Tien during one of the World Martial Arts Tournament.

These are the moments that stood out the most for me. And I gotta agree that DBZ has more of those "omg wtf?1" moments.
Bold - LMAO, i was so pissed after viewing this i think i was like "NO....just no fucking way! :notrust " :laugh

[Kira Yamato]

OMG...the incident with the car was hilarious. It was so random because either fighter could have easily lost based on the trajectory of the fall. If Goku had fallen in a different direction, he could have been the winner but I guess for the story it was best that he had lost and had something to strive for later on.

[crazymtf]

OMG...the incident with the car was hilarious. It was so random because either fighter could have easily lost based on the trajectory of the fall. If Goku had fallen in a different direction, he could have been the winner but I guess for the story it was best that he had lost and had something to strive for later on.
I know. I first was stunned then laughed because it was just SO random but yeah it made him want to win the next win. Glad goku atleast won one tournament :laugh :amuse

[Kira Yamato]

I know. I first was stunned then laughed because it was just SO random but yeah it made him want to win the next win. Glad goku atleast won one tournament :laugh :amuse


yeah, it's kind of funny how the previous two competitions we're lost, but they were of no consequence. But the one he manages to win had possibly the world at stake xD

Goku sure knows how to prioritze his matches. Tien and Roshi were a way to test his own strenght but the Picollo fight meant so much more.

[blazingshadow]

anyone seen the path to power? i think that was one of the better movies made of dragonball