GOD vs Maestro Hulk + War Hulk

[hjkou]

SORRY

i just wanted to see hulk lose in a thread, it will make me happy, thx

[Blitzomaru]

I know who can beat the hulk in a fight, and I'm about to make a thread about it. And no one can refute it either! but yeah, G-man pwns.

[Sabaku no Ira]

God.

Actually, anything higher or as high level as the Cosmics will definitely defeat any Hulk.

[Gooba]

I voted note.

But yea, any cosmic wins, and against non-Maestro Hulk SS/Galactus wins too.

[Gunshin]

SORRY

i just wanted to see hulk lose in a thread, it will make me happy, thx
This isn't related, but it might make you feel better....

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[Nybarius]

This is the Outskirts Battledome, therefore Maestro Hulk IS god, and so this poll is invalid.

[Gooba]

Heh. I love how manga to comic confuses me. I was like, "Why is Bruce looking at him after he got killed???"

[Neon]

Hulk is either tied or winning right now
Depends on if you count NOTE as a GOD option to be added with the rest

Either way, you might not get your wish of hulk losing a thread:amuse

[Cthulhu-versailles]

which God.. If you mean God God for people who don't believe in God then the battle never happens so hulk wins...!!!

............... what powers does God have...... Neg rep me if you think this post was annoying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jink]

first wats a maestro and a war hulk? and whats this talk abotu cosmics? :huh

[lekki]

I voted God but God seems to be losing, lol

[Yami no Takeshi]

I'll go with God then.

[Sabaku no Ira]

which God.. If you mean God God for people who don't believe in God then the battle never happens so hulk wins...!!!

............... what powers does God have...... Neg rep me if you think this post was annoying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And for people who don't believe that Hulk exists (which I doubt that even the most hardcore, sane fans do), the battle never happens so God wins. Or for people who don't believe either to exist there won't be a winner. :notrust

[Nybarius]

Everybody's always talking about the "Wrath of god," but when it comes right down to it, the wrath of god is rather impotent before the gamma-infused wrath of the Hulk. Just look at it: what has God done? Let's say you believe in Yahweh or one of its subsidiaries.

Bringing the dead back to life? Yawn! Happens in comics all the time. I'd like to see Lazarus survive a gamma bomb, though!

Flooding the Earth and drowning most of its inhabitants, while miraculously sparing golden-boy Noah's hand-crafted wooden arc? Bah: the Hulk could easily set off an extinction level event if he got ticked off at a polar ice-cap or something.

Turning water into wine? Please. The Hulk's hand-strength is suitable to draw blood from a stone.

Face it, the big kahuna is reaching like Mr. Fantastic here, and he's about to get smacked like Kurt Cobain.

[ValentineTheory]

And for people who don't believe that Hulk exists (which I doubt that even the most hardcore, sane fans do), the battle never happens so God wins. Or for people who don't believe either to exist there won't be a winner.
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.................:( You've gotta be kidding. God Wins no matter what, Even if you don't believe in God, What about the Hulk? We KNOW the Hulk is fake. Sorry, but by my standards, the Hulk doesn't exist so God Wins.


WHAT!!??, Some flood, and a boat, big whoop?! He KILLED EVERYONE ON THE EARTH except for Noah's family. Draw blood from a stone......pff, how about turn the entire Nile river into blood. Don't even get me started on philosophical arguments...


Just, nevermind. *sighs*.................gonna go eat some cookies.:P

[Nybarius]

What? Blasphemy! How could you possibly KNOW the Hulk is fake? Prove it!

[Sabaku no Ira]

Everybody's always talking about the "Wrath of god," but when it comes right down to it, the wrath of god is rather impotent before the gamma-infused wrath of the Hulk. Just look at it: what has God done? Let's say you believe in Yahweh or one of its subsidiaries.

Bringing the dead back to life? Yawn! Happens in comics all the time. I'd like to see Lazarus survive a gamma bomb, though!

Flooding the Earth and drowning most of its inhabitants, while miraculously sparing golden-boy Noah's hand-crafted wooden arc? Bah: the Hulk could easily set off an extinction level event if he got ticked off at a polar ice-cap or something.

Turning water into wine? Please. The Hulk's hand-strength is suitable to draw blood from a stone.

Face it, the big kahuna is reaching like Mr. Fantastic here, and he's about to get smacked like Kurt Cobain.

Hum... let's see. What about creating an entire universe with just a thought? Or actually setting up the rule/laws of physics? How about being completely IMMORTAL, with absolutely no means to kill or destroy, since he has no beginning or an end? OR the fact that God can go "You don't exist" and boom, you're gone?

What? Blasphemy! How could you possibly KNOW the Hulk is fake? Prove it!
Hum... the fact that he has broken basically all the rule of physics known to man and the fact that he still hasn't destroyed an entire universe yet?

[Nybarius]

God set up the laws of physics; the Hulk routinely breaks them. If he can't even maintain rules and order in his house (you know, like "in my house we follow the second law of thermodynamics!"), what's he gonna do in a brawl? I'll tell you what: he's gonna get knuckled down then roughed up, that's what.

[Sabaku no Ira]

God set up the laws of physics; the Hulk routinely breaks them. If he can't even maintain rules and order in his house (you know, like "in my house we follow the second law of thermodynamics!"), what's he gonna do in a brawl? I'll tell you what: he's gonna get knuckled down then roughed up, that's what.

Unfortunately that wasn't the only thing God can do: He can think Hulk out of existence.

[ValentineTheory]

Yah, what Sabaku said^^^^^

*munches cookies*


Sorry but, Richard simmons Would kill the hulk.......but that's cuz he's got the white man's afro of DOOOMMM!!!:amazed

[lekki]

So God did the next best thing and fucked with his wife so Hulk is once again pwned by God.

[Nybarius]

If he can't get the Hulk to obey the laws of physics, then why should he be able to think the Hulk out of existence? The very notion is paradoxical. Whatever Yahweh the mud god conceives of is made flesh; so, if Yahweh is thinking of someone, then they will continue to exist--the only hope Yahweh has of blinking the Hulk out of existence is to forget about him: which is easier said than done! It's pretty damn hard not to think about a green machine gunning for you, riding the mother of all gamma-fueled roid rages.

[GSurge]

Hum... let's see. What about creating an entire universe with just a thought? Or actually setting up the rule/laws of physics? How about being completely IMMORTAL, with absolutely no means to kill or destroy, since he has no beginning or an end? OR the fact that God can go "You don't exist" and boom, you're gone?
Yeah, but that's just silly.

A scientist turning into a large green monster that is neigh-invulernable is quite common and logical, though.

[Sabaku no Ira]

If he can't get the Hulk to obey the laws of physics, then why should he be able to think the Hulk out of existence? The very notion os paradoxical.

I don't see what the two has to do with each other.

[GSurge]

I don't see what the two has to do with each other.
The laws of physics are God's power manifested.

If the Hulk can supercede that power, then why should God be able to blink him out of existence? The Hulk is more powerful than his power.

[lekki]

God can do anything even become a better Hulk, so God pwns the Hulk

[Nybarius]

Well, let's take it as a given that God created the heavens and the Earth and on the seventh day he rested and it was good and all that jazz. After establishing his nice, cozy rules, and dealing with that burdensome, corruptile beast known as man, he is confronted with a creature quite outside his ken: a jade monster so wrapped up in irreconcilables that he doesn't even follow the laws of physics!

It's like God is the warden, and the Hulk is the toughest prisoner in the jail. The warden gets to lock up at night, and makes a big show of running the joint. However, when it comes right down to it, we all know who's really in charge. LARGE, and in charge. Hell yeah.

Thanks to GMan who said it more succinctly.

[Sabaku no Ira]

The laws of physics are God's power manifested.

No, it isn't. Nature is God's creation but only a part of his creation. God can go against the rules of Physics whenever he likes. You saying that Laws of Physics apply to heaven and hell as well?
:laugh

According to the Old Testaments, God is supposingly Almighty, which means he can do anything you can possibly imagine. Yes, even creating a rock which he cannot lift, since before such a rock exist God is still all powerful.

[GSurge]

No, it isn't. Nature is God's creation but only a part of his creation. God can go against the rules of Physics whenever he likes. You saying that Laws of Physics apply to heaven and hell as well?
:laugh
Physics is a set of rules created by God to govern his... living creatures or whatever. The Hulk is powerful enough to go beyond these rules. He does not adhere to the rules. You would think that if he can ignore his rules that he can ignore them all, no? Including God's ability to simply remove him from existence.

[Nybarius]

Why would God set up laws just so that he may break them? That's awfully rude. You'd think that if his rules were so perfect he could at least abide by them himself.

[ValentineTheory]

ahhh, just drop it, no ones changing their mind and more posting isn't gonna help, let others post I wanna see some other opinions

[Sabaku no Ira]

Why would God set up laws just so that he may break them? That's awfully rude. You'd think that if his rules were so perfect he could at least abide by them himself.

He could, doesn't mean that he has to.

Physics is a set of rules created by God to govern his... living creatures or whatever. The Hulk is powerful enough to go beyond these rules. He does not adhere to the rules. You would think that if he can ignore his rules that he can ignore them all, no? Including God's ability to simply remove him from existence.

If that's the case then why didn't he make a Physics law so that no human being on this Earth can go against the Ten Commandments?

[Gunshin]

If that's the case then why didn't he make a Physics law so that no human being on this Earth can go against the Ten Commandments?
Because that would be redundant.

[GSurge]

If that's the case then why didn't he make a Physics law so that no human being on this Earth can go against the Ten Commandments?
Because I thought that was the entire point of why Adam and Eve took the forbidden fruit, and such. Humans are supposed to have self will, but by doing so and sinning choose their own path against that of God, and go to hell rather than heaven. It's free will rather than predestination, and is one of the tenets of most Christian religions.

[Nybarius]

WH Auden wrote an essay (collected in "The Dyer's Hand") that discusses that sort of scenario. In it, he asserts that there are two types of imagined religious paradises, and which one is desired types the man: "New Jerusalem" and "New Eden". In New Jersualem, it is physically impossible to sin; in New Eden, there are no consequences (for instance, when you stab your father cherry soda might come out of his wound), and so life is a droll game. On that note I gotta scat, but I'd still like to hear the proof that the Hulk doesn't exist. I really doubt you can prove it.

[Sabaku no Ira]

Because that would be redundant.

Why would that be redundant? Obviously He wants everyone to follow his laws so that His children (us) will never be separated from Him due to sin. He can make sure of that by making a Physics Law that forbides people from sinning.

Because I thought that was the entire point of why Adam and Eve took the forbidden fruit, and such. Humans are supposed to have self will, but by doing so and sinning choose their own path against that of God, and go to hell rather than heaven. It's free will rather than predestination, and is one of the tenets of most Christian religions.

Exactly. So what did you say about God letting Hulk breaking his Physics Laws?

WH Auden wrote an essay (collected in "The Dyer's Hand") that discusses that sort of scenario. In it, he asserts that there are two types of imagined religious paradises, and which one is desired types the man: "New Jerusalem" and "New Eden". In New Jersualem, it is physically impossible to sin; in New Eden, there are no consequences (for instance, when you stab your father cherry soda might come out of his wound), and so life is a droll game. On that note I gotta scat, but I'd still like to hear the proof that the Hulk doesn't exist. I really doubt you can prove it.

Just the same as you cannot really prove that God doesn't exist. Since both sides could exist, the fight is valid which is a point I was making when all this religious debate started.

[ValentineTheory]

ara? you mean me? Heh, you can believe the Hulk exists if you want. "We" is a loosely used word, doesn't apply to everyone I suppose. But you said yourself, he's kinda hard to ignore out of existence, even for God, so wouldn't it be more difficult for humans living on the earth to ignore him if he really existed....I think SOMEONE would notice if you did anything catastrophic......hard to ignore....right.

[GSurge]

Exactly. So what did you say about God letting Hulk breaking his Physics Laws?
I don't follow. If God allows his creatures to have will, then maybe the Hulk just has enough will to not follow his rules, and thus, be destroyed by God.

[Sabaku no Ira]

I don't follow. If God allows his creatures to have will, then maybe the Hulk just has enough will to not follow his rules, and thus, be destroyed by God.

Exactly, God let Hulk to break his rules, not because he cannot make Hulk to follow his rules. If anything, God can think the creator of Hulk out of existence by sheer thought and Hulk the comic book would never have brought into place in the first place (and so, no Hulk), since He would know way before hand, or simply take away Hulk's free will by bring in more and more laws that only the Hulk has to follow. By sheer power, God is infinitely to the power of infinity more powerful than Hulk and Hulk has no chance if (an extremely big "if" if you ask me... look no further than Satan) God really wants to take him on (but God simply just won't do that).

[Gunshin]

Why would that be redundant? Obviously He wants everyone to follow his laws so that His children (us) will never be separated from Him due to sin. He can make sure of that by making a Physics Law that forbides people from sinning.
How is it "obvious"? If anything, the bible suggest that God has given us freewill so we can choose if we want to go to him or not. Making a law that would permit us from sinning would be redundant to that purpose.

Then we'd have to jump into the reason, which is somthing that we cannot fathom. Just like the question: "How did everything start?" We as humans can't understand things outside of our limits. Just as a cocroach can't fathom anything we do. [/QUOTE]

[Nybarius]

Man, just can't tear myself away. Quite correct, it's impossible to prove a negative, but I thought it might be funny if someone tried.

Let me take a new tack: if someone as physically feeble as Nietzsche could kill God, then the Hulk should have no problem. Thus spake Nybarthustra.

[Sabaku no Ira]

How is it "obvious"? If anything, the bible suggest that God has given us freewill so we can choose if we want to go to him or not. Making a law that would permit us from sinning would be redundant to that purpose.

What the heck? I thought that I'm talking about making a Law that FORBIDES us from sinning?
:blink

Let me take a new tack: if someone as physically feeble as Nietzsche could kill God, then the Hulk should have no problem. Thus spake Nybarthustra.

What are you on about?:blink

[Nybarius]

Although this fact isn't often remarked upon, the Christian religion has a history, just like any other fiction composed by man. Initially, Yahweh was a lot less powerful than it is now; sort of like a shonen manga, the church fathers have kept expanding its power and the scope of its knowledge until its under your skin, in your subconscious, even. The less-powerful, original version of Yahweh made man out of mud, and furthermore had to slay a great beast, Leviathan, in connection with creating the earth and the seas. (Sort of similar to the Norse Veddas, in this respect, except the ancient Norse believed that their God composed the world out of the remains of a giant snow-cow. No kidding.)

Now I ask you, can you imagine the Hulk having even the slightest bit of difficulty beating the crap out of some stupid sea-monster that probably just wants three fiddy? I think not.

Furthermore, God has had troubles with Satan throughout all his days; ahh, what could be a stronger force for evil than the Devil, right? Oh wait: there's always The Devil Hulk! With muscle like that, the army of darkness can't lose.

QED ten times over.

[lekki]

This thread is spinning of course at an alarming rate huh?

[Sabaku no Ira]

Although this fact isn't often remarked upon, the Christian religion has a history, just like any other fiction composed by man. Initially, Yahweh was a lot less powerful than it is now; sort of like a shonen manga, the church fathers have kept expanding its power and the scope of its knowledge until its under your skin, in your subconscious, even. The less-powerful, original version of Yahweh made man out of mud, and furthermore had to slay a great beast, Leviathan, in connection with creating the earth and the seas. (Sort of similar to the Norse Veddas, in this respect, except the ancient Norse believed that their God composed the world out of the remains of a giant snow-cow. No kidding.)

Now I ask you, can you imagine the Hulk having even the slightest bit of difficulty beating the crap out of some stupid sea-monster that probably just wants three fiddy? I think not.

Furthermore, God has had troubles with Satan throughout all his days; ahh, what could be a stronger force for evil than the Devil, right? Oh wait: there's always The Devil Hulk! With muscle like that, the army of darkness can't lose.

QED ten times over.

Ah, I see. Well, I'm talking about the Yahweh from the version of the Bible we have today.

And as for Satan, see my post about "God allowing the Hulk to break his rules". One of the things that most Catholic priests teach is the fact that God allows evil (ie Satan) to exist. Not that because He can't but because He loves Satan too. After all, Satan (Lucifer) is his creation as well. For proof look in the Book of Revelation, the last Book in the Bible. God defeated Satan at the end of the world.

BTW, I'm talking about if God went all out with Hulk here. In reality (fictional reality... does that make sense? :P) God wouldn't even try to fight Hulk and will merely defend Himself if attacked since He loves the Hulk so much...

[Nybarius]

Well, wait, if this is to be a real combat scenario, then God should do what God would really do, and, in fact, that leads right into my next line of argument. In the book "My Idea of Fun," Will Self offers a corollary to Pascal's Wager, which he terms Broadhurst's Wager. It is that, if there is a God up in the skies, he's an irretrievable mollycoddle who would easily forgive any sins indulged in before shuffling off this mortal coil. Sort of like a great big pushover of a softhearted mother, up in his vault of clouds.

That soft heart is going to hurt him in this fight.

While the Hulk is storming the vaults of heaven, God will probably be all wrapped up in finery, quoting that goat-faced old crook 'Mother' Teresa: (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/185984054X/qid=1122283665/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_sbs_1/102-2633239-0193712?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) "Forgive, forgive".

Way I see it, the old boy has gotten soft. Unlike the Greek gods and co, who regularly kicked ass, took names, and whored around down here in the jungle us humans have made out of our paradise, ol' Jehovah is cut off from all things mortal, including such passions as rage; bloodlust.

Sure, he wrote all about Revelations and the mark of the beast back in the day, high on some cosmic acid or whatever deities take to unwind, but he didn't reckon on the armageddon knocking on his door so soon. While he's rushing to forgive the Hulk for his sins, Hulk gonna smash his face in. You bet your sweet bippy.

[Sabaku no Ira]

Well, wait, if this is to be a real combat scenario, then God should do what God would really do, and, in fact, that leads right into my next line of argument. In the book "My Idea of Fun," Will Self offers a corollary to Pascal's Wager, which he terms Broadhurst's Wager. It is that, if there is a God up in the skies, he's an irretrievable mollycoddle who would easily forgive any sins indulged in before shuffling off this mortal coil. That soft heart is going to hurt him in this fight.

While the Hulk is storming the vaults of heaven, God will probably be all wrapped up in finery, quoting that goat-faced old crook 'Mother' Teresa: (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/185984054X/qid=1122283665/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_sbs_1/102-2633239-0193712?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) "Forgive, forgive".

Way I see it, the old boy is getting soft. Sure, he wrote all about Revelations and the mark of the beast back in the day, high on some cosmic acid or whatever deities take to unwind, but he didn't reckon on the armageddon knocking on his door so soon. While he's rushing to forgive the Hulk for his sins, Hulk gonna smash his face in. You bet your sweet bippy.

Well, as I've mentioned, God isn't going to destroy Hulk (though he can) but He'll definitely defend himself if needed be. Trouble is He'll know that Hulk would smash his face in (that's assuming that God has a face at all: In the Bible, all supernatural things have no solid, physical body. That includes God, Holy/Evil spirit, Angels, Demons, Satan, which is another problem Hulk will have to face: how is He going to fight something He can only see but cannot affect, but it can affect him?) and He'll definitely find a way to stop that from happening (without killing Hulk, of course).

But you're right about God getting soft though. In fact, I seriously doubt that He would hurt a fly even unless it threatens His existence, (since if He is destroyed, there'll be no one to protect his precious creations from Satan) which I doubt. In an actual battle, most probably it will be all Hulk attacking and God defending, and it will last forever if Hulk doesn't give up (which I doubt he would).

BTW, I always thought that in these vs threads we assume that both parties are going to go all out without considering their psychological dimension?

[Nybarius]

If God has no face, then what was Moses looking upon up on Mt. Sinai? ... (Moreover, how the heck did Moses write about his own death? ;))

Putting that aside: Hulk no need smash face! Hulk just smash! If he can smash through Onslaught's armor, which existed in a different dimension, then he can presumably pierce the divine shield of God.

Perhaps Einstein was the whore of Babylon, for setting in motion the events which would bring about the birth of the Beast, aka the HULK, who is often described in the book of revelations as being like a dragon (big and green, and if you've ever smelled his breath, you'd believe he could breathe fire).

Who, then, is the anti-Christ? Why, God himself! After so many years spent in shallow breathing, the lack of oxygen thinning his blood, becoming ever more sickly and valetudinarian on his cushy cloud-nine retreat, he must have desired his own death, but since that's an impossibility--besides being all that is or ever will be, incarnate, he also went and made suicide a sin--he would have to first will his own negation. The next step: conceive of beings who stood outside his order. The type who could bend and break the rules of physics, and break them again. The type I speak of is the Hulk, to a T: God's suicide plot!

"The Hulk sat in the corner / Smashing a deity into clay / "Alpha and Omega, still they must / Answer to Gamma one day."

[Sabaku no Ira]

If God has no face, then what was Moses looking upon up on Mt. Sinai? ... (Moreover, how the heck did Moses write about his own death? ;))

Putting that aside: Hulk no need smash face! Hulk just smash! If he can smash through Onslaught's armor, which existed in a different dimension, then he can presumably pierce the divine shield of God.

Perhaps Einstein was the whore of Babylon, for setting in motion the events which would bring about the birth of the Beast, aka the HULK, who is often described in the book of revelations as being like a dragon (big and green, and if you've ever smelled his breath, you'd believe he could breathe fire).

Who, then, is the anti-Christ? Why, God himself! After so many years spent in shallow breathing, the lack of oxygen thinning his blood, becoming ever more sickly and valetudinarian on his cushy cloud-nine retreat, he must have desired his own death, but since that's an impossibility, he would have to first will his own negation, and then conceive of beings who stood outside his order. The type who could bend and break the rules of physics, and break them again. The type I speak of is the Hulk, to a T: God's suicide plot!

"The Hulk sat in the corner / Smashing a deity into clay / "Alpha and Omega, still they must / Answer to Gamma one day."

Hum... actually to my knowledge (I haven't really read the Old Testament as well as I should... :P) the Bible doesn't really mention what happened when Moses went to see God: it just said something like "Moses went up the mountain and see God. God gives him the Ten Commandments. Moses brings them down." I've read from a Biblical dictionary that said that God, Angels and Satan/Evil Spirits are all spiritual and doesn't have a real form... *shrug*

Edit: This is from the Bible and said by Yahweh: " 'But my face,' He said, 'you cannot see, for no human being can see me and survive.'- Exodus 33:20" Though I think that the Hulk doesn't count as a human being and yes, he should be able to see Yahweh's face. Trouble is, will the Hulk be wise/intelliget enough to comprehend what he sees?

lol.... I doubt that God would want Suicide since suicide is a sin. Besides, the dragon in the Revelations is red... ("Then a second sign appeared in teh sky: there was a huge red dragon with seven heads and ten horns, and each of the seven heads crowned with a coronet." -Revelations 12:3)

[Nybarius]

And so it was written, and so it has come to pass! For the skalds have sung of a Red Hulk, a terrible creature who has survived the end times, when Onslaught awakens and the cities of man tremble. Cleverly concealed amidst the exoteric comes a message of gnostic significance: http://www.cheatplanet.com/pscheats/marvel_vs_capcom_clash.htm

(search page for "Red Hulk").

This is the way the world ends /
This is the way the world ends /
This is the way the world ends /
With God getting beaten up by the Hulk /

PS: You're right about Yahweh's face, although I'm positive that it's not consistent throughout the Bible. I think that in Exodus, you'll find mention of someone or other looking upon Yahweh's face--I'll check some concordances & get back to you.

PPS: I think that God's best bet is probably to try to quell the anger within the Hulk so that he reverts back to regular old brilliant sissified Bruce Banner. The problem is, the Hulk has so many reasons to be mad at God that his blood will be boiling by the time he gives St. Peter the bum's rush.

PPPS: (I <3 the edit key!) -- as far as doubting God's suicide plot because suicide is a sin: well, you yourself said that God could break his own rules. Besides, it's not suicide if somebody else does it. (Yeah, I know, if you really accept that Yahweh or whomever is the living embodiment of all reality, then he'd still be culpable, because he's the prime mover. Contemplating this, from Yahweh's perspective, makes me blanch: what a bland and onanistic world that would be! No wonder he craves the Void which preceded him and the Void which will one day swallow him up again.)

PPPPPPPPPPS:
Exodus 33:11


Yahweh spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend. He turned again into the camp, but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, didn't depart out of the Tent.

A bad translation, perhaps? You are correct that it is accepted dogma that to look upon the face of God is to be immolated; a Promethean / Icarian type of thing, I guess. Or maybe Moses (along with Abraham and Noah, I guess) have special access, since they were the prophets ones entrusted with spreading the blessing of Yahweh.


-n

[Sabaku no Ira]

And so it was written, and so it has come to pass! For the skalds have sung of a Red Hulk, a terrible creature who has survived the end times, when Onslaught awakens and the cities of man tremble. Cleverly concealed amidst the exoteric comes a message of gnostic significance: http://www.cheatplanet.com/pscheats/marvel_vs_capcom_clash.htm

(search page for "Red Hulk").

This is the way the world ends /
This is the way the world ends /
This is the way the world ends /
With God getting beaten up by the Hulk /

PS: You're right about Yahweh's face, although I'm positive that it's not consistent throughout the Bible. I think that in Exodus, you'll find mention of someone or other looking upon Yahweh's face--I'll check some concordances & get back to you.

PPS: I think that God's best bet is probably to try to quell the anger within the Hulk so that he reverts back to regular old brilliant sissified Bruce Banner. The problem is, the Hulk has so many reasons to be mad at God that his blood will be boiling by the time he gives St. Peter the bum's rush.

PPPS: (I <3 the edit key!) -- as far as doubting God's suicide plot because suicide is a sin: well, you yourself said that God could break his own rules. Besides, it's not suicide if somebody else does it. (Yeah, I know, if you really accept that Yahweh or whomever is the living embodiment of all reality, then he'd still be culpable, because he's the prime mover. Contemplating this, from Yahweh's perspective, makes me blanch: what a bland and onanistic world that would be! No wonder he craves the Void which preceded him and the Void which will one day swallow him up again.)

PPPPPPPPPPS:
Exodus 33:11


Yahweh spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend. He turned again into the camp, but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, didn't depart out of the Tent.

A bad translation, perhaps? You are correct that it is accepted dogma that to look upon the face of God is to be immolated; a Promethean / Icarian type of thing, I guess. Or maybe Moses (along with Abraham and Noah, I guess) have special access, since they were the prophets ones entrusted with spreading the blessing of Yahweh.


-n

About the suicide: well, I said that He won't, doesn't mean that He can't. I think that God can sin, since humans can (obviously, duh) but He just won't do it.

About the anger thing... well, I think most people in this world has at least a dozen reason to be angry with God, yet God is so understanding and loves us so much that mostly likely He'll help us with our anger. So yeah, I think that God will pull that one off for Hulk as well (though I can imagine that if there's a time when the Hulk is fighting for a just reason God will go "You may release your anger upon this evil..." :P Well, maybe not.).

And yeah, I've checked the Bible and that text is there. I have no idea what's going on, but it comes back to me that Moses was special in terms that he's the only person who has seen God's true form (from my Catholic class in the past). But then the Bible is quite filled with inconsistencies anyway (Especially Old Testaments vs New Testaments).

But the dragon in the Revelation is red. (Maybe the Hulk got so mad that he got red?:D)

[Nybarius]

If you had followed the link, you would see that there is, indeed, a red Hulk, although his existence is shrouded in secrecy, and if you would have him favor you with his presence he requires that you survive many battles against strong opponents--indeed, some of the best Street Fighters from around the world, including Mecha-Zangief!

Also, consider this: if God is everything, then he also would logically encompass within his being all possible realities. Since his planned suicide at the hands of the crimson Hulk is a possible reality (because, for him, nothing is impossible), it therefore must be happening somewhere within him even now. Now, it is spectacularly unlikely that you and I inhabit that particular reality, however, any reality we inhabited would be equally unlikely, yet we have to be on one, or we couldn't be talking on Narutofan.

Therefore: the Hulk is the "Beast" spoken of in Revelations, and by his mark, the angels shall fall as the pain of the most unholy sin, deicide, shoots through the loins of heaven.

[Sabaku no Ira]

If you had followed the link, you would see that there is, indeed, a red Hulk, although his existence is shrouded in secrecy, and if you would have him favor you with his presence he requires that you survive many battles against strong opponents--indeed, some of the best Street Fighters from around the world, including Mecha-Zangief!

Also, consider this: if God is everything, then he also would logically encompass within his being all possible realities. Since his planned suicide at the hands of the crimson Hulk is a possible reality (because, for him, nothing is impossible), it therefore must be happening somewhere within him even now. Now, it is spectacularly unlikely that you and I inhabit that particular reality, however, any reality we inhabited would be equally unlikely, yet we have to be on one, or we couldn't be talking on Narutofan.

Parallel universes and alternate reality, anyone? :amuse (Actually, I always wonder if God made the world with probabilistic laws like quantum mechanics with a purpose: so that more types of "universes" can exist and there will be one that He'll like. :P)

Therefore: the Hulk is the "Beast" spoken of in Revelations, and by his mark, the angels shall fall as the pain of the most unholy sin, deicide, shoots through the loins of heaven.

Hum... I don't see how you got here, though. :P

[Nybarius]

Ahhh, unlocking the secrets of the atom. It is under this sign that some of our best and brightest have felt, nay, KNOWN that they could finally behold the face of God; between the cracks in time and space which visible light is too feeble to record they sense divinity. With tuning fork precision, they strove to unlock the secrets of the subatomic; a quark would do for Mt. Sinai, an aerate neutrino's crackling core would serve as the tent in which Moses had his tete a tete with divinity. So they strove, and on through their dying generations, and their work eventually did bear fruit, and under this sign they did conquer.

However, whereas once upon a time gazing upon the features of God's face instantly incinerated man, this new frontier our monkeylike inquisitiveness has opened up has rules that stand at right angles to that unwritten history of our follies that survives as common sense. Within this new place's confines, God himself threatens to ignite under the heat of our gaze, all mankind's blame burning into Him all at once. Even for one omnipotent, the conscience of a universe is a heavy load to carry, and a schizophrenic one: suffering is so realistic, a Bronx chorus of broken voices, every one insisting upon its superposition over the unity & bliss our God's self, way, and law represent. Perhaps it's too much for even a God to bear. Ignition. The crimson eye of the sun itself is struck blind by the divine firestorm, God's contradictions and irreconcilables resolving themselves in an orgy of flame. Before anyone can snap a picture of the puppetmaster who fashioned us out of clay so long ago, all that remains is a vast charnel pit, which spans the sky. In the weeks to come, farmers will discover that fields coated in its residue are fertile as the void our Lord himself first filled. Soon all that remains to be seen are countless strands of undifferentiated inspiration, wafting through the air like confetti, or the tentacles of a Krakken of a size to embrace the world.

That's what we saw.

Here's how it came to pass:

Human nature being as it is, after the utopian dreams, still riding high on elemental currents we'd only just begun to straddle, we have fallen from our atomic eden, recapitulating the primal drama which provides the omnipresent, unspoken backstory for our disaffection. Although today it is enacted on a scientific plane miles above and beyond the arcadian glen that used to host it, the story is unchanged: senile Daedalus can't reign in his son's questing nature; Prometheus is hungry for a torch to light the ebon cosmos, throwing shadows off our well-placed world.

All, fall, down.

Ah, but no Prometheus ascended could conjure up in a dream or write blankly in his book of many days of a single one of the modern marvels, I say thee nay! Nor could he even approximate the tenor of our agony, even though his bloodcurdling howl be from the very moment when vulture's beak separates liver from man. Destruction of this magnitude requires an inventiveness not afforded by those constrained by such idle shackles as a conventional living, family, community.

Handle with care. Our version of this ancient morality play has very exotic props, and will require delicate staging! Astride mere mortals there now stands a collossus, of titantic build and limitless strength. His father? A star, come to pay green Gaia a visit, sussurating sweetly in the desolate desert. His mother? Calamity, desperation, and anguish; a frothing frustration so tumultuous and insistent that all of God's creation cannot dam it in.

Such primal anger knows no creator; it is alone, and self sustaining, and without any need for a prime mover; and we've unleashed it, discovered it, inflicted it upon ourselves--I'm unsure of the word, but we can be sure of one thing: it is upon us. May heaven have mercy on our souls, each and every one.

Behold! This ruddy Gamma-irradiated beast has coiled inside of him all anyone knows of fury, of rage, of resentment, for, defying physics and instead relying on Reichean principles of energy, his body is a constant engine of negative emotion; an ugly, huge hate machine.

Will Red Hulk deliver us to salvation, or simple destruction; or will he let us make up our minds where to go, once he disposes of the Big Brother who has been keeping an eye from the sky on us all along? Only time will tell.

Prick up your ears, for such times form the crucible of a man! God is a dead man walking, his sworn executioner the humble man who was Bruce Banner, man turned abomination, to repay God for abominations turned upon man.

Nothing is true; everything is permitted. These are the last days.

[kapsi]

Hey will God torture Hulk forever in hell if he dies?

[Nybarius]

I think that, in the unlikely event that the Hulk ends up kissing the canvas--prolly due to the lame "kill'em with compassion" strat I detailed earlier--he would most likely supplant Satan, since being tortured would presumably make him angry, and eventually he would have enough juice to break free of even the deepest circle of Dis.

[CrazyMoronX]

Whatever God speaks, happens. It's the reason he cannot lie, he just can't do it. If he said Hulk didn't exist, he would never have existed, and this thread would never have been created.

That alone wins him this fight. Not to mention he can do anything, he routinely defies the laws of physics. Look at Moses, he split the red sea with the power of God, if that doesn't defy the law of physics, what does? God made it rain bread, made water spring forth from stones, created a pillar of fire just so the Hebrew people could stay warm at night, made a donkey talk, made an axe head swim like a fish, made it rain fire and brimstone, created a place that burns for all of eternity (Hell, take that amaterasu!), turned an immortal being mortal (Adam and Eve), and was directly responsible for the creation of the person that created the Hulk.

Of course, there are scriptures somewhere to back it all up, but I'm at work, so I refuse to look it all up.

[Nybarius]

Ok, he split the red sea; the Hulk can survive for an indefinite (long) period of time fully immersed in the deepest pocket of any ocean in the world, hell, the galaxy. Crying statues? Hucksters pull that one all the time. That's not a miracle, that's parlor magic. The Hulk can cause people to crap their pants simply by flexing his muscles such to rip his clothes in a way that will generate a brown note. Now THAT'S miraculous--and it really makes ya think. And hell, even I've created "pillars of fire" to "stay warm at night"--I mean, maybe he chopped the wood himself, which would put the sly old devil one-up on me, but the Hulk is capable of singlehandedly deforesting the Amazon due to acute road rage, or just stepping on an adamantium tac. Also, I've seen it rain bread before; the neighborhood bakery was having a sale. Heck, they even had pigeons eating their bread-crumbs in the window, proclaiming their prices, you know, cheap, cheap. But you'd probably say they communicated with the birds and the beasts. As for talking donkeys, we've all seen Shrek, no? Further, the Hulk is capable of casting an axe-head onto Neptune, where it will swim around the planet's orbit like a predatory megalodon for the next aeon. A place that burns for all eternity? If you want that, just pick up a Hunt's Point Hoe without wax-papering your sausage, and an eternity of burning ye shall receive!

Yes, yes, your litany of miracles is unimpressive to me as it must surely be to God, to whom no human limitations apply. (Similarly, if birds could talk, they might wonder why us silly humans always make such a big deal over the fact that they can fly.) There is one item that stands out, though: the fact that God crafted Woman, a model I consider superior to its prototype, out of spare parts.

However, the Hulk can counter here by calling upon his cousin, the She-Hulk, who has figured out the meaning of life, within the world she operates in. By which I mean, like Ralph Snarf and others who have broken the fourth wall before her, she knows she's in a comic book. I think it's only fair Hulk be granted the liberty to call upon her enlightened counsel, seeing as how God's allies are legion, including not only his devout followers but also all the stars in the sky, all the dark matter in the universe, all that ever was and ever will be and much that never could be besides, and so on, and so forth.

Although you speak for the side of angels, you've done the Devil's own work, I'm afraid. You've identified God's ridiculous weakness! (Every overpowered baddie has one, you just have to keep looking). Namely: if he speaks of his own demise, POOF! He's gone! It's exactly like the Superman foe Mr. Mxyztplk, who is demonically powerful and vulnerable only to saying his own name backwards. Arguably a bit easier, because people BS about their demise all the time, but seldom say Mxyztplk backwards. . .

[lekki]

This truly is greatness at work now. But unfortunately Nybarius, God's lead is steadily growing this time.
Another reason why the Hulks can't win. If Maestro Hulk activates his powers, it hurts the regular Hulk so there'd be no team work.

[Nybarius]

It's only natural for people to cling to the world they know, lekki, no worries. When you've the force of a red Hulk, and you've gone from god-clutcher to godslayer, there's no need to whore the polls for popularity.

Also, all the non sequiturs I'm spinning have probably thrown people off the Hulk--might just be beneficial to the overall health of the 'dome.

Hmm, I don't think that Hulk would ever work well in a team, despite his long-time involvement with the Avengers. Like Kenpachi, he's a bruiser; he goes in, wrecks shop on foes of a cosmic scale, and gets home in time for a nice dinner, maybe the salmon, maybe the veal, maybe the meatloaf, I don't have all the details.

Since this is the case, trying to coordinate an attack with his "brother in (strong) arms" would just cramp his style; rather, War Hawk and the Maestro should just go in at separate times. If one fails, then let the other one learn from his mistakes. Sort of like having an extra life in a video game. You know; one of those video games where you kill god--like GTA:4.

[kapsi]

Alanis stands no chance it seems...

[Nybarius]

Ahh yes, I've been meaning to bring that up, so I guess I'll just blurt it out: if God needs to rely on Jay and frickin' Silent Bob to do her dirty-work, well, she's in trouble. The cartwheel was nice, and the holy belch, but with lackeys like that Jersified stoner and his mute non-homosexual life-partner, I can't help but speculate as to the soundness of your battleplan, even your mental health.

The Hulk would turn twelve shades of red if you said so, but even on an off-day, say when he goes to the neighborhood hospital to tender stories of love and renewal to sick children with broken hearts, he can still muster orders of magnitude more menace than Ben Affleck wielding a hockeystick. I mean, the doofus doesn't even PLAY hockey.

[hjkou]

This isn't related, but it might make you feel better....

http://www.punisher-art.com/original_art/comic_pages/pkmu/pkmu_colguide_p16.jpg
*tracker device implanted*
http://www.punisher-art.com/original_art/comic_pages/pkmu/pkmu_colguide_p17.jpg

hahahaha, yeah that made me feel better :)

i was expecting quite alot of smartass comments about god losing, but to think there are people who are SERIOUSLY questioning it? WTG? WTFG?!
and those people who voted for hulk just to go against my wishes.. DIE >< aha

[Nybarius]

I guess you could call me a . . . Devil's Advocate.

(Oh man, I'm losing it.)

[vegitabo]

since this is so pathetic, i win!

[Nybarius]

Mr. Chief Justice Gooba, Mr. Speaker hjkou, Mr. Tsukiyomi, gathered clergy, comic book fans, we observe today not a victory of party, but a celebration of freedom—symbolizing an end, as well as a beginning—signifying renewal, as well as change. For I have sworn before you and Almighty God and his lipstick colored killer the same solemn oath prescribed nearly a century and three quarters ago, when my great-great grand-pa found it while rummaging through the attic.

We dare not forget today that we are the heirs of that first revolution, when starting a fanclub devoted to Sasuke's adam's apple seems not only socially acceptable, but uplifting as well. Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans—born in this century, tempered by flamewars, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage—and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which Narutofans have always been committed, and to which we are committed today at home and around the world.

Let every fanboy know, whether he wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

And so it is with great pride that I pass on the crown, in which the sacred duty of "King Pathetic of the Boards" to vegitabo. Congratulations on your victory; the fun bus will shut down your school for a day soon for your No-Prize ceremony.







Source
http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres56.html

[Id]

God- b cus god made man, man mad machines, man made machines mad Hulk.
so God>>>>>>>>>>>>>>infinate gap >>>>>>man>>hulk.

[ShadowGal19]

If it is true God is the most powerful being in the universe, then he would win.

[Nybarius]

That's silly, El Roo. Just because one thing is responsible for the birth of another thing doesn't make the "parent" stronger, except maybe in one of those vapid "how oldskewl are you" contests that always seem to be breaking out across various scenes.

By way of illustration: I'm quite confident I could beat my mother in a no holds barred match.

---
Shadowgal: Actually, that doesn't follow. a) In comic book physics, you never know when somebody is actually a duplicate from a different timeline that occurred in a paralell universe . . . but even putting that aside, there's the LoTRish

b) God may be the most powerful being in the universe, but that's singular, and his opponents are in the plurals.

[Tsukiyomi]

Tsk Tsk Tsk, haven't you learned anything.

War Hulk = God
Maestro = God with style

[ShadowGal19]

@Nybarius: I did forget I was in comic book world, which means God probably only amounts to that newspaper guy in Monty Python. The Hulks smite his a**
To bad I can't go back and change my vote.

[superman_1]

god will win easily......he will destroy hulk all the the other f**king incarnations of hulk..... he will burn their asses into oblivion and hell.....and torture them for all eternity...... yeah thats it.....

[hjkou]

Tsk Tsk Tsk, haven't you learned anything.

War Hulk = God
Maestro = God with style

hehe sorry, i guess we just forgot that there was a god incarnation of the hulk too

he is called, GODHULK, and it is actually proven he existed before god

correctomundo :D?!

[itachidattebayo]

Oh yeah , god does win hands down.....:amuse

[Nybarius]

Good thing the Hulk keeps his hands up.

[Yuhara]

Ok, its kinda hard to even think how this fight is possable. but if it was then i gess the Hulk would be granted into heaven... with out dying.... to fight GOD.... and then what? if GOD even desides to "fight" then all he has to do is show his face or speak..... hulk dead. not much of a competition.

[Nybarius]

That's so ignorant, Yuhara.

[Yuhara]

Explain. You think the Hulk could stand a conversation with GOD? is he not still a mortal?

[Nybarius]

Well, read the thread. I believe I've responded more than amply. And of course he's more than mortal. Mortals can't lift mountains.

[Twizted]

Hahahaa God could just turn the Hulk into a cow in a hamburger factory...

[Nybarius]

God can't tamper with free-willed creatures like that, especially a creature of the individualistic stature of the Hulk.

[Yuhara]

I've responded more than amply.

Yup that about sums it up. you've spent way to much time and focus on this meaninless thread. for your best intrests in mind i sugest you give it a break.

clearly you dont belive in GOD, and its obvious a Hulk really dosnt exist. its really not that serious, this is or was supose to be fun. so why do you have to take it so far and make such a big deal about it? dont worry about answering that, im done posting here.

[Nybarius]

Yup that about sums it up. you've spent way to much time and focus on this meaninless thread. for your best intrests in mind i sugest you give it a break.

I just got anime-owned.

:crying

[Twizted]

God can't tamper with free-willed creatures like that, especially a creature of the individualistic stature of the Hulk.

I'm outta here before this gets even more ridiculous, but I'll leave satisfied knowing that you can't decide what God can and can't do...:laugh

[OniTasku]

Heh. I love how manga to comic confuses me. I was like, "Why is Bruce looking at him after he got killed???"


I thought the exact same thing...it's been too long since I've read an American comic. :laugh

God pwns Hulk

[Insipidipity]

Unfortunately that wasn't the only thing God can do: He can think Hulk out of existence.
Except the Hulk still exists.

The Hulk is more real to some people than "GOD". At least theres a comic book about him. Theres pretty much an agreed upon image by virtually all comic book readers and even normal people.

So yes, the Hulk wins. The Hulk's very existence despite this thread is proof of that.

[Nybarius]

Insipidipity: Very good point. The Bible was pieced together by many sources, and nobody's sure of the authorship. It's a palimpsest which has been corrupted by innumerable hands editing away over the centuries to suit their own needs. Compare this with the crisp, pristine run of Hulk comics, none of which are of disputed veracity--despite some retconned storylines & powers, and the "Ultimate" series--and the Hulk clearly has a better set of scriptures to back him up.

Also, the myths and fables in the Hulk make a lot more sense than the Bible. I'll buy a gamma radiation bomb turning a nerdy nuclear physicist into a raging emerald behemoth before that poppycock in "Genesis" any day of the week.

EDIT:

Last page, the argument that the Hulk is inferior to God because God created the Hulk was bandied around quite a bit, and I addressed it, but I would also like to propose another avenue of attack for those dissatisfied with my first attempt; let's call it the 2nd raid.

While it is true that God created Stan Lee, who created the Hulk, this doesn't mean that he's necessarily superior. Despite what certain kung-fu movies might have us believe, talent, strength, and kill-skillz tend to evolve, not regress as one generation gives way to the next. The student often overtakes the master. I mean, humans built the Terminator, (2) -- but how many humans are capable of killing a Terminator? (Well, at least one, if we're talking about the old model, but beyond that we need robots & Linda Hamilton -- but I repeat myself.)


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Originally Posted by Nybarius
God can't tamper with free-willed creatures like that, especially a creature of the individualistic stature of the Hulk.

I'm outta here before this gets even more ridiculous, but I'll leave satisfied knowing that you can't decide what God can and can't do...

If it's up to a puny fleshbag like me to decide what God can or can't do, the Hulk will have no problem with his arse.

[The 21st Hokage]

God would win because he's God.

[Kira Yamato]

Undoubtly God, it's hard fanthom any circumstance where that wouldn't be true...but then again people have definitions of God.

So, I'm going by my own definition to avoid any possible argument. God creates all and has the ability to make anything cease to exist, so God>>>>>>>Hulk (simply because Hulk was made by God).

[Insipidipity]

As a comic book character, God probably would win because the writers can give him the ability to do whatever they want. God as a non-comic book character undoubtedly loses though.

[The Transporter]

Well, this seems to be an interesting discussion lol...

Let's See. The Main problem with with ANY of the Huks is that Anger=Power. The Angrier the Hulk get's, the more impossible feats he can perform. And, according to numerous people, the Hulk's anger is limitless.

Thus, giving The Hulk infinity, he could probably punch a hole through God. However, this needs pristine conditions to pull off....Like, say, God Impaling the Hulk every .2 second's, in order to agitate the Hulk.

However, this is War Hulk, and the Meastro we are talking about, not the TRUE anger filled Behemoth. And this, is where they BOTH fail.

Both The Maestro and War Hulk have a problem. They are not very angry people. The Have the Power...but they have SOO much power, there is little that agitates them....War Hulk beat Jugg's without breaking a sweat. The Maestro beat the entire Marvel U without dying lol. However, they seem to have limit's, and do you want to know why?

The Living Tribunal did not intervene in ANY of the Hulk cases. Which means the Maestro killing the Marvel U was an ACCEPTABLE occurance. War Hulk approaching Cosmic Level was indeed allowed.

Whenever a Being becomes somthing that even God has to worry about, The Tribunal intervene's. Adam Warlock was such a person, Thanos was such a Person, however, The Hulk's, were not.

Basically, neither of those Hulks have the Personality to deal with God, in ANY situation lol. Soo...

God>War Hulk+The Maestro.

[Nybarius]

Transporter: Perhaps the Tribunal was scared?

[The Transporter]

Wait a minute....the Tribunal....The LIVING Tribunal...the Same Tribunal that WILLED itself BACK into existance, after being wiped out of the page's of history by Adam Warlock with the Infinity Gauntlet.

I am sorry, if you can WILL yourself back into existnace after being utterly obliterated....what do you REALLY need to be scared of?

-Simon

[konflikti]

Hulk.
...therefore God should be careful who he messes with.

[Nybarius]

The Transporter: Well, Thanos with the Heart of the Universe pwnt the Tribunal -- and anyway, if you seriously believe that the Tribunal stands above Yahweh, then you're much easier to convince that Hulk will reign supreme than somebody who thinks that Yahweh can just think Hulk out of existence.

By the by, have you read the rest of the thread? I quite like it :)

[Id]

Super hyper Post. G Man

[Sabaku no Ira]

I thereby declare this section of the forum to be the Atheist paradise. :D

[Nybarius]

Been livin' most my life, trapped in an Atheist paradise /
There ain't no afterlife, when you're in the atheist paradise!

[hjkou]

As a comic book character, God probably would win because the writers can give him the ability to do whatever they want. God as a non-comic book character undoubtedly loses though.

oh and hulk as a non-comic book character undoubtedly wins?

oh shit wait, HE DOESNT EXIST LOL.

*edit* well shit i realised that before i get flamed by some smartass, that i better mention there are more religious people in the world who belive in god, than there are comic book fans.

[Pinkaugust]

GOD wins, he porns the hulks to death!! JESUS LOVES PORN, GOD LOVES PORN TOO!!!
But really, did you think that some hulks could beat the POWER of the KUNAI!?!?!? LONG LIVE THE KUNAI! MAY IT SMITE ALL HULKS TO HELL!! :smile-big

[Tehol Beddict]

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

-Matthew 16:18,19


All they need is the pope people. God's major flaw is that as the 'creator' and being omniscient and omnipotent, and having stated that he can never lie, he has bound himself to a rock with his own rules. By his own omnipotence he has given his word absolute power, even says that he and his word are one and the same, so in the moment that the word is undone or proven wrong, even if by himself, he ceases to exist and creation falls with him. Man has become the new god, bow before his might.

And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

-Luke 11:9

Absolute power is given into the hands of mankind by the very one you worship, yet you still doubt yourselves. I, upon my desire to be so, am greater than god. You denying yourselves is blasphemy. I find it quite ironic that in following a non-existant entity, you commit the one sin said, by the afore-mentioned entity, to be unforgivable.

I say that Hulk(s)>god, and because I have said it, it is.

1 and 2, and my dad's a preacher, and 3 and 4, and his dad too, and 5 and 6, I love to play the same games they do, and 7 and 8, you can prove whatever you like with the bible, so I do.

I absolutely adore these god threads :amuse

[EDIT]

I thought that you all might want to sing along in an old hymn with me that I learned as a little boy:

Victory in Jesus

*chorus*

O victory in Jesus,
My Savior, forever.
He sought me and bought me
With His redeeming blood;
He loved me ere I knew Him
And all my love is due Him,
He plunged me to victory,
Beneath the cleansing flood.
:oh


Normally, I wouldn't quote myself, I'd just pull out a couple of new verses and spin a new angle on it but I lack the time and motivation to do so at the moment. I figured this would do as a 'show of faith' input until I get my cable hooked up tuesdat and officially return. After all, I couldn't let Nybarius have all of the fun now could I?

Very eloquently stated were all of your points in this thread, by the way, Nybarius, as always. It's as refreshing as ever to see someone besides myself capable of playing this little game with any sort of intellectual dignity. Unfortunately we stand on the same side of the coin, or so it seems. It might prove a scintillating conversation were someone like yourself able to hold the opposite side of the debate from my own, though perhaps you are a bit more poetic with your linguistic capabilities than I. It matters not, the argument could never be near as amusing with someone who actually believed, that always makes it too serious and I grow weary of these monotonous 'god tink exist more none out of' replies.

I bid you all farewell until Tuesday.

Oh, and yes, I am fully aware of the similiarity to Dogma, but that's not where it came from. That was hardly an original thought process, after all..

[slasher1001]

GOD might not gonna kill hulk 'cause he is still good guy even though he smash every thing around him with 'those' pants. so, instead of killing him, he might send him to anger management programe but yet it's gonna make hulk even more angrier:yelling .GOD have no choice :laserbeam.

[azn_sephiroth]

Wow this is funny haha.

GOD takes this. Even though he won't even want to harm hulk.

[Nybarius]

Itachi came wit da ill post. I'm flattered. Mad mathematical. I wrote it longhand and taped it into my family bible, in the knowledge secktion.

[Wing-Zero]

God would win cause he can do anything

[Nybarius]

God would win cause he can do anything

Even, like, his sister? Zaht is rill na raight.

[NecroManc3r]

Yes even his sister, If he had one.

[Nybarius]

Oooo, that's dope. That's a blow up. But check this:

What if player had TWO sisters?

[NecroManc3r]

God da man ya dig, Omnipotentcy means never having to be impotent.

[Nybarius]

Ooooo, that's that KNOWLEDGE! God is GOOD! He made a good ship, lolly pop, and filled it with a tight clique, and they got, down with Abraham, and down with Noah, and down with Rachel & Lea and they cocaine grower -- Nyb be, like, divine seed, can't even find me, God experiences all the sensations every time the, male and female energy get together -- only to be SMASHED by the green beast, sans tether.

[hjkou]

holy shit, you were just meant to vote god
there was no argument

all these hulk voters are going to get smited

but then i guess all the god voters are going to get HULKSMASH'd by hulk when he jumps out of the computer screen?

[Xenophobia]

this thread makes kishimoto cry

[uncanny_sama]

a sniper can win from hulk just snipe out his eyes no way he can survive that

[Seany]

Im going with god

[RealaMoreno]

This isn't related, but it might make you feel better....

http://www.punisher-art.com/original_art/comic_pages/pkmu/pkmu_colguide_p16.jpg
*tracker device implanted*
http://www.punisher-art.com/original_art/comic_pages/pkmu/pkmu_colguide_p17.jpg



HAHAHAHAHA!

[~ Masamune ~]

Lmao love this thread

[Tougoozi]

god erases existence of hulks ... therefore winning

[Chamcham Trigger]

okay this is an odd one. I say Hulk wins just to anger the topic creator :P....and that's the real dea.

[earthshine]

thanos ounce got the power of god. he blinked the universe out of existance. so yea, god ftw

[DarkLordDragon]

hjkou I wish to kill you for thinking of this >_<

Everybody's always talking about the "Wrath of god," but when it comes right down to it, the wrath of god is rather impotent before the gamma-infused wrath of the Hulk. Just look at it: what has God done? Let's say you believe in Yahweh or one of its subsidiaries.

Bringing the dead back to life? Yawn! Happens in comics all the time. I'd like to see Lazarus survive a gamma bomb, though!

Flooding the Earth and drowning most of its inhabitants, while miraculously sparing golden-boy Noah's hand-crafted wooden arc? Bah: the Hulk could easily set off an extinction level event if he got ticked off at a polar ice-cap or something.

Turning water into wine? Please. The Hulk's hand-strength is suitable to draw blood from a stone.

Face it, the big kahuna is reaching like Mr. Fantastic here, and he's about to get smacked like Kurt Cobain.


Your not serious are you? I know who is your god but I don't know who your worshipping...

You know my god, Allah is way above that level... It's really shame to even name his great name in this topic... God doesn't even need to say "Be" if he is said: "Be" it will "be" there are people who thinks god have this or that, god may or may not...etc I guess I need to change my signature to this: >>>>

They say: "Allah Most Gracious Has Begotten A Son!"

Indeed Ye Have Put Forth A Thing Most Monstrous!

At It The Skies Are Ready To Burst, The Earth To Split Asunder, And The Mountains To Fall Down In Utter Ruin,

That They Should Invoke A Son For Allah Most Gracious.

For It Is Not Consonant With The Majesty Of Allah Most Gracious That He should Beget A Son.

Not One Of The Beings In The Heavens And The Earth But Must Come To ALLAH Most Gracious As A Servant.

~Slave Of Allah~

[Insipidipity]

a sniper can win from hulk just snipe out his eyes no way he can survive that
Have you ever READ the Hulk? The guy regenerated from having his heart ripped out...

BTW, earthshine, Thanos got the power of the creator in the marvel universe. not the same one we're talking about.

God loses by Logical contradiction. Pwned.

[tri-sapphire]

Which version of God are we speaking of?

If it's the one from Bastard!!, who has combat capabilities at least equal to those of Dark Schneider's (who already pwned all forms of the Hulk in a previous thread), then the two green men don't stand a chance in Heaven or Hell :P.

[Rice Ball]

I voted for Note: All the GOD options will be added up in the end.

:(

Btw we talking Christian god? :p