Doctor Who Thread

[Kilowog]

talk about the Who, new and old plus all the spin offs here.

anyways the newest special ame out, it's in the trading post. I kinda liked it, brought back the cybermen

[ATY]

the speciel was great the actor who played the fake doctor was great.

[Catterix]

I think this must be Doctor Who thread #987652345.

I dunno why but the show just doesn't seem to have staying power in this forum :S

Anyway, yeah I loved the special, a great bit of Christmas fun. Both Davids did fantastic performance (The "fake" Doctor was played by David Morrissey, one of the best TV actors out there), there were some really nice effects, and Russel T Davies out-did himself on a lot of the subtler conversations. If nothing else, this special demonstrates how versatile a writer that man is.

Wasn't quite sure how to take the giant Cyberman. As an 18 year old who doesn't like things going too far, I kind of cringed at it. Whilst at the same time, I knew I'd be loving it as a kid.

Derva Kirwin was just... Win.

[Kilowog]

I'm tad dissapoint Morrisey didn't end up being the Eleventh, since I loved him in this and we know that the Tenth is out of here.

[Catterix]

As amazing as David Morrissey is, I just don't see him as a Doctor. Something just doesn't quite fit, though I don't doubt that via pure talent, he wouldn't be able to fit himself into the role. But why, if there's some actor out there who can do it easier?

I'd like someone who's a bit like Tennant was before Doctor Who. An actor known in the business as amazing, but not a celebrity, shall we say.

[Juno]

The speculation is ovar.

Matt Smith

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/Alex_Rhian/smith_doctor_2.jpg

He's pretty much a complete unknown... and possibly way too young for my liking.

[Mider T]

Has the previous Doctor already died?

[Kilowog]

not yet, he'll die in one of the next 3 specials

[C. Hook]

So...

New Cybermen; yay or nay? I personally like them better than most of the old day stories (Goddamn gold weakness), but they are a bit slow and ponderous for my liking.

[ghstwrld]

I wanted the black guy. :(

[Catterix]

Has the previous Doctor already died?

He'll die next Christmas :(

I wanted the black guy. :(

I really didn't. I don't know why, but Paterson Joseph just didn't suit me as the Doctor. And he's been in New Who anyway, he was in the 1st season's finale.

So...

New Cybermen; yay or nay? I personally like them better than most of the old day stories (Goddamn gold weakness), but they are a bit slow and ponderous for my liking.

I think they're Ok. I actually think they're too cyber for me. There's little that tells you they aren't just robots. Possibly because of crap costumes, but there was actually something eery about just how human-but-not-quite the old Cybermen were. Also, they were treated as just a lot more scary in the old series than New Who, now they seem to be one trick ponies, who seem more interested in Deleting people than making them into Cybermen, which was their original intention.

I almost think "Convert!" would have been a better catchphrase than "Delete!"

[Tyrael]

Dr Who is damn awesome. With Steven Moffat as executive producer I've got damn high hopes for the next series when it eventually comes along.

[Besh Boa]

There should be more Donna :pek

[ghstwrld]

Why This Doctor Disappoints (http://io9.com/5122806/why-this-doctor-disappoints)

Now that the dust has started to settle on the news that Matt Smith will be the new Doctor Who, I have to ask: Am I the only one who feels a little... well, cheated?

It's not an age thing, I should point out. Although, yes, 26 seems a little young to me to be a Doctor, that's entirely a thought probably based more in my own bitterness at realizing that I'm eight years older than a timelord and feeling as if all of my life's achievements pale in comparison to singlehandedly saving the universe on a weekly basis or traveling around all time and space in a blue police box; Peter Davison was only three years older when he got the role back in 1981, and I didn't have any problem with his age, after all. It's also not a comment on whether or not Smith will be any good in the role; I can't think of that many things he's done that I've seen, so I don't have any real opinion one way or another.

No, my problem with the choice is this: He's a white male.

I shouldn't be surprised, of course; the Doctor has, since his creation, always been a white male. Ten actors have played him previously "in canon" (Peter Cushing and the all the stars of the Children In Need special being ignored), and each one of them has been distinctly caucasian and possessing of a penis (Well, to the best of my knowledge). But this was the regeneration where we were led to believe that anything was possible and that things could change. This was the regeneration where names like Patterson Joseph and Chiwetel Ejiofor were not only raised as possibilities but named by the BBC themselves as frontrunners for the role (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7808762.stm), with the Corporation also happily teasing that it was also very possible that a woman might be taking over the Tardis this time around.

Put it down, perhaps, to naivety and post-Obama optimism, but there was a buzz and excitement about the idea of the new Doctor being something other than the establishment figure that we'd been used to all these years. For my part, it wasn't any kind of affirmative action or "political correctness gone wild" (Hello to our Daily Mail readers) that made me eager to see Joseph in the role; it was the statement that such a choice would have represented. The Doctor is everyone, it would have said, and for everyone, and this particular Doctor is something you've not necessarily seen before. Even if he was a man, he wouldn't necessarily have been The Man, if you know what I mean.

Instead, we have Matt Smith, whose age is apparently controversial, but about whom, everything else seems... well, pretty conventional. And perhaps that's the point. Maybe the BBC didn't want to bring too much upset to their flagship family program, especially with the change in producers and showrunners, and worried that moving too far away from the familiar would make viewers leave the show in concern that it's not the same show they've loved for the last X number of years. If so, it's a shame, and - I think - a miscalculation; I really doubt that audiences would have had any problem with a black Doctor, or a female Doctor (or, for that matter, a black female Doctor, for anyone who wants to write fanfic that Martha Jones is actually a future Doctor herself); despite a stereotype and tradition for stuffiness, Britain is a strongly multicultural environment, and even if it wasn't, characters like Martha, or the admittedly-annoying Mickey, or even Captain Jack Harkness, had been quietly pushing the envelope on Who since its revival. Even if the BBC wasn't ready for a different kind of Doctor, the audience, I believe, was.

I'm almost left wondering, does this choice send the opposite message? Is there an accidental, implied "It's okay to be a companion if you're not white and male, but you'll never be the star of the show?" in selecting Smith over Joseph or someone else? The BBC was ready to tease the potential for a bold new era for the Doctor, after all, so they must have been aware of the messages that such a choice would have been sending. Does shying away from a non-white male lead after raising such hopes make the BBC look worse than just being a PR cocktease? Does it make them look racist, or afraid?

None of this is meant to suggest that Smith won't be a great Doctor. He certainly has a great team of people behind him, and I highly doubt that his selection was made without a lot of thought, auditions and back-and-forth; it's just that it feels like we were offered something more, for a brief second, and I'm still hung up on what might have been.


co-signed.

[Kilowog]

well being an american who didn't know anything aside from that Newsarama.com said "Tennant leaving" and "Smith cast" I realyl have no opinion either way, so +1:zaru

but in all fairness I can certaintly understand some of the dissapointment but all I can realyl say is that I trust Moffat.

[Taffer]

So...

New Cybermen; yay or nay? I personally like them better than most of the old day stories (Goddamn gold weakness), but they are a bit slow and ponderous for my liking.

Nothing wrong with the original design :grin

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41631000/jpg/_41631828_planet1_220bbc.jpg

[Shogun]

It's a shame that a failed doctor who actor had to hit out at the show

Source (http://yeahboss.com/2009/01/04/failed-doctor-who-actor-hits-out/)

[Tyrael]

Why This Doctor Disappoints (http://io9.com/5122806/why-this-doctor-disappoints)

co-signed.

I guess I was disappointed a bit to see just how much he resembles Tennant, but I do think that it's really not a big deal at all. Far better an actor who can play the part well rather than another chosen for the colour of their skin or gender.

It's a shame that a failed doctor who actor had to hit out at the show

Source (http://yeahboss.com/2009/01/04/failed-doctor-who-actor-hits-out/)

:rotfl

[The Cheat]

A lot of old school doctor who fans hate the new who show.

[Kilowog]

a lot of old school ANYTHING hate the new versions of ANYTHING, way to state the obvious :zaru

[Catterix]

Why This Doctor Disappoints (http://io9.com/5122806/why-this-doctor-disappoints)




co-signed.

Biggest load of Bullshit I have ever heard. And I read The Sun :zaru

It's amazing the different opinions spewed about the same fact. My family are actually impressed that he isn't black, especially after Paterson Joseph was so close to being it.

It would have been too easy to make the Doctor black, following 2008's run of Lewis Hamilton, Barack Obama...

If race is such a big issue, then you need help. Why not complain that the Doctor isn't a woman? Or ginger haired? Or green?

They actually said that Smith was nothing like what they were looking for, but his audition, his characterisation, the way he handled his lines, were perfect.

They chose Smith because he was the best actor. Not because he was white.

Get over it.

[Vault]

well i will see

Eccleston still remains my fav although Tennant wasnt bad at all.

[Taffer]

A lot of old school doctor who fans hate the new who show.

Yeah, its such a shame.

Ive been a who fan since i was little. I was a fan throughout the nasty period where there was no Doctor Who on telly, and its fandom was pretty much seen as geeks.

Now i still can't believe it when i go into shops and there are kids fighting over Doctor Who toys etc. I'm so pleased with what they have done to Doctor Who, and the interest in the new also brings interest to the old. Ive had my younger cousins borrow some of my dvd's of the earlier series, and they love it dispite the effects etc.

Biggest load of Bullshit I have ever heard. And I read The Sun :zaru

It's amazing the different opinions spewed about the same fact. My family are actually impressed that he isn't black, especially after Paterson Joseph was so close to being it.

It would have been too easy to make the Doctor black, following 2008's run of Lewis Hamilton, Barack Obama...

If race is such a big issue, then you need help. Why not complain that the Doctor isn't a woman? Or ginger haired? Or green?

They actually said that Smith was nothing like what they were looking for, but his audition, his characterisation, the way he handled his lines, were perfect.

They chose Smith because he was the best actor. Not because he was white.

Get over it.

Agree 100%

[Kilowog]

personally I would find it very difficult to accept a woman doctor, since every male time lord we've seen regenerates into a male timelord and same goes for females, it would be bullcrap to just have a sex change.

though I can accept a black or asian or whatever doctor since he frequently changes accents, hair color and overall body structure.



also damn rep seal stops me from repping Catterix :(

[ghstwrld]

Just so we're clear, it's not about being pro-black or whatever. It's about a cultural icon that supposedly captures the zeitgeist of a particular place not being so one note (in that regard).

Anyway, I'm still hoping Moffat will take over Torchwood, as well, because that show desperately needs his touch.

[edit]

Oy.

I guess my first post in this thread doesn't really help matters in the least. :facepalm

Sorry, folks.

[Juno]

Why This Doctor Disappoints (http://io9.com/5122806/why-this-doctor-disappoints)




co-signed.



No, my problem with the choice is this: He's a white male.

Fucking hell. Enough of the white guilt already. The enthusiasm for a black doctor was just creepy. There's nothing more insulting or patronising than selecting an actor according to skin colour, black or white.

Speaking of which, why black? Why not asian? They're the bigger minority in Britain, and they're the ones that have been almost entirely absent from the new series so far. I dislike this attitude that picking a black guy is the best gesture of multiculturalism, ignoring that there is more to multiculturalism in Britain than black and white.

[Tyrael]

The world is more than just white/black? :omg

But I think we can all agree that the best person for the job should get the job, no matter what race/gender/species they do be. Still, I hope this guy is pretty different in his acting style to Tennant as the pressure from taking up such a spot would make it easy for him to slip emulations in there so as not to alienated any rabid fans of Tennant.

[ghstwrld]

Fucking hell. Enough of the white guilt already. The enthusiasm for a black doctor was just creepy. There's nothing more insulting or patronising than selecting an actor according to skin colour, black or white.

Speaking of which, why black? Why not asian? They're the bigger minority in Britain, and they're the ones that have been almost entirely absent from the new series so far. I dislike this attitude that picking a black guy is the best gesture of multiculturalism, ignoring that there is more to multiculturalism in Britain than black and white.

The idea that the article is advocating the Doctor must be black is a canard.

[Ema Skye]

I'm looking foward to the new doctor to see if he can live up to Eccleston and Tennants standards.

[Kilowog]

The idea that the article is advocating the Doctor must be black is a canard.

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/eleanorlovell/2006/05/31/duckling.jpg


:hehee

[Bear Walken]

Bionic Woman set to appear on Doctor Who (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0752740/news#ni0657480). I hope she doesn't suck as much as she did on Bionic Woman. She can't suck if she's going to be the Doc's roadie/partner/assistant/bitch.

[Taffer]

Bionic Woman set to appear on Doctor Who (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0752740/news#ni0657480). I hope she doesn't suck as much as she did on Bionic Woman. She can't suck if she's going to be the Doc's roadie/partner/assistant/bitch.

Comedian Lee Evans is also in the same episode.

[Toby]

lol sign me up on the anti-racist Doctor Who fanlisting and those surprised about Bionic Woman's appearance on the show.

I'm looking forward to a new doctor personally. Tennant is great no doubt, but we need to move on, I think, before he becomes The Doctor.

I've been thinking about picking up a single convo-thread for Doctor Who but everything seems very scattered. Does anyone know which is the first or most comprehensive/active?

[Kilowog]

http://tv.ign.com/dor/objects/949538/torchwood/videos/torchwood_s3_uktrail_60_press.html

Torchwood S3 trailer.

looked decent enough ... until I remembered it was Torchwood.

[kizuna]

The speculation is ovar.

Matt Smith

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/Alex_Rhian/smith_doctor_2.jpg

He's pretty much a complete unknown... and possibly way too young for my liking.

:omg :wtf you serious?? he's very young!!

can he be as good as david tennant though...? i hope so. i'm probably too old to like doctor who, but i don't care!

he's very pale... maybe he's a vampire? :hehee

[Kuminator]

For those of you who don't know

Some people are expected to return, (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a150134/piper-agyeman-tate-simm-for-who-return.html)

As reported by The Sun, now the Sun always gets mocked and said that it's false, but quite a lot of the time it's true, The Sun, was the first newspaper to report Davros as returning, allbeit, being played by a different actor, but they reported it nonetheless.

----- SPOILERS -----

Also, in that final special, where the return is scheduled - This will be the one where David Tennant regenerates - Spoilers have it & filming pictures have it that links from Family of Blood will feature heavily, as Jessica Hynes, who played Nurse Redfern returns, this time in the modern day, possibly playing a descendant of Nurse Redfern, as she is publishing John Smith's A Journal of Impossible Things, her name is Verity Newman (Which is a reference to the first producer of Old Doctor Who)

Speculation is that Donna will read this book, and loopholily find out about the Doctor & therefore somehow be able to return.

Also, don't know from where, but possibly in a Steven Moffat interview, he's prepared probably most of the scripts for Series 5, because Matt Smith's read scripts 1 & 4.

And apparently Series 5 begins just moments after the last Christmas special !

[Ema Skye]

BILLIE Piper will return to Doctor Who with ALL the Time Lord’s former companions as part of David Tennant’s final episode.

Billie, 26, will again play Rose Tyler and teams up with other sidekicks Donna Noble (Catherine Tate) and Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman).

The trio will join forces to take on the Doctor’s revived arch-enemy The Master, played again by John Simm.

The episode sees the Timelord regenerate into the new Doctor (Matt Smith).

An insider said: “This will be the most exciting episode Doctor Who have ever done. We really wanted to get all the companions back on board as a fitting send-off to David.

“And of all the enemies for him to face in his final episode it makes sense for The Master to be the main one. Getting Billie to agree is a real coup, but she loved working on the show so much it didn’t take much convincing.”

Rose — who left after series two — formed the strongest bond with the Doctor out of the female companions. She returned for a few episodes in the last series where she was reunited with the Doctor.

Rose then returned to Earth with a separate half-human version of the Time Lord.

Since she left Doctor Who, Billie has gone on to star in the raunchy ITV2 drama Secret Diary of a Call Girl. She plays a high-class hooker in the risque show, which is currently on its third series.

We revealed yesterday how her three brothers and sisters are embarrassed about her success.

David, 37, will quit the show after the last of the four specials.

Meanwhile the red London bus set to feature in the first special has been damaged in Dubai by schoolkids.

Source (http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2009/03/doctor-who-billie-piper-to-return.html#comments)

If the master is going to be back then it is going to be epic ;_;

[kizuna]

when is it going to be aired??

[Kilowog]

when is it going to be aired??

next special is in easter, then christmas, then the 11th takes control in 2010

[kizuna]

next special is in easter, then christmas, then the 11th takes control in 2010

oh wow!! i'm going to be home for easter!! goooooooooooood!! :dance

gah, i can hardly wait! it's gonna be epic!

[ghstwrld]

u-rUTlQPm4o

[Chaos Hokage]

Okay, I just finished watching the "Planet of the Dead" episode on youtube. It was good to see Michelle Ryan again after her show (Bionic Woman) was cancelled on NBC. I really thought she was going to become the Doctor's new companion. Oh well, at she has her own flying bus now. Bottomline, it was a good episode! I can't for the next one (The Waters of Mars) to come out.

[Moridin]

Matt Smith

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v89/Alex_Rhian/smith_doctor_2.jpg


I'm a fan of Matt Smith and I think he's got the makings of an interesting Doctor. If that promo shot is actually a promo shot and his general clothing is something like that I think it'll work great, suitably modern but with a distinct enough style. Looking forward to seeing just what he'll bring to the role with his acting.

[zantha]

i think matt simth is going to be great, but i am going to miss david tennant. he is great. i wonder what they are going to do with the companion. i mean since matt smith is so young, they could go with a young companion. get the younger vewiers. what do you think.

[kizuna]

i'm gonna miss david too *sniff*

i loved the easter special! :dance

not overly sure about the ending though.... but i liked the 'he will knock tree times' (yes, the 'tree' was intentional. her accent, you see)

[zantha]

i wonder if the master will be involved. i heard some thing about john simmes comeing back.

[kizuna]

oh wow! that would be awesome!

we've got a bit of a wait though :(

[zantha]

i know i would love to see him and david tennant together again in the none gay way.

thought i would sart a topic who do you think was the best compainon.

my has to be martha, she walked the world and saved it, with little help from the doctor. and proctected him when he was a humen. i think she is underated.

on a side topic am i the only one who thoght the nurse when he was humen was to old for him.

[Kuminator]

For those of you who love HQ / UHQ Doctor Who Images, y'know, like On Set images/ Promo Stills & Stuff - Basically a really great gallery for HQ Up-to-date stuff
is The Medusa Cascade (http://www.the-medusa-cascade.com/gallery/)

Also there are lots of new spoilers, I posted them here, Read this page (http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=7279&page=21)

Also - Thought I'd post a Gif I made :
http://i708.photobucket.com/albums/ww83/Kuminate/TheTenthRegeneratesIntoTheEleventh.gif

[Tyrael]

I have to say, the way he knocked back the Catrina(?) character at the end of that special was pretty funny. I really didn't like her-partly the writing, partly the acting.

But the episode was entertaining enough. I can't help but feel the foreshadowing would have been pretty cool if it was not redundant.

[Kamina]

The master is returning for two of the four specials this year.

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2009/04/simms-returns-a.html

Just thought I would post it.

[masamune1]

The master is returning for two of the four specials this year.

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2009/04/simms-returns-a.html

Just thought I would post it.

Interesting.....I wonder if The Rani will be in it as well.

Anyone see the new Red Dwarf?

[Tyrael]

Didn't Russel T Davis say that he would never bring back the Master whilst he was in charge? That said, 'tis not a surprise.

I saw half of the new Red Dwarf. Missed most of the middle of it oddly enough.

[masamune1]

Didn't Russel T Davis say that he would never bring back the Master whilst he was in charge? That said, 'tis not a surprise.

I saw half of the new Red Dwarf. Missed most of the middle of it oddly enough.

I think he just said he was'nt planning on bringing him back. Anyway, these are his last episodes and he's co-writer on the next one, so maybe he's not totally "in charge".

The first episode of RD was a bit of a let down, but the last two were great. And since it's supposed to be a film I can let the first part off with it.

[The Cheat]

WHat the hell is a rani anyway?

[masamune1]

WHat the hell is a rani anyway?

It is Hindi for Princess or Queen.

[MuNaZ]

"planet of the dead" was entertaining... noting special... but noting really bad.

Am i the only one not really exited about the next one? it really looks like those weak episodes on the middle of the "regular" season... i hope i'm wrong... but i'm not getting my hopes up :pek

[Ema Skye]

"He will knock four times" Time for the master :awesome

[zantha]

"planet of the dead" was entertaining... noting special... but noting really bad.

Am i the only one not really exited about the next one? it really looks like those weak episodes on the middle of the "regular" season... i hope i'm wrong... but i'm not getting my hopes up :pek

nether am i. i just hope the final will be better.

[Bounty of the Konoha]

i loved the women in planet of the dead i really wish they would have given her a series as the doctors traveling companion

[Mistygemmy]

The latest episode was so awesomely cheesey, i loved it. Michelle Ryan was pretty much playing Laura Croft though ;D I think Russel T has been playing too much tomb raider XD

I loved it all in all, I love how well Russel writes interactions between the background characters, its always been his strong point, I'll miss that when he's gone.

I don't see this being the end of ...I think her name was Christine, I don't think they gave enough information about her away to have her just being able to escape on a flying bus. I can see her being the companion to be honest C: Ahh, we'll see! Not exsactly excited for the next one, but maybe because I'm dreading davids last episode coming nearer ;D Though I AM excited for Matt to step into his shoes >w< Mixed emotions plz ;D

[masamune1]

"planet of the dead" was entertaining... noting special... but noting really bad.

Am i the only one not really exited about the next one? it really looks like those weak episodes on the middle of the "regular" season... i hope i'm wrong... but i'm not getting my hopes up :pek

Funny. I think the next one looks like it could be pretty creepy, and the creepy Who episodes are almost always the best.

If nothing else, I do think it looks a bit better than these last two, though I could end up dissapointed. It's supposed to be a lead in to the last two, so your wrong about it being like the "middle" episodes- it will be more like Utopia or Turn Left, hopefully more like the former esp. if....he is going to show up.

EDIT: And by "he" I mean the Master.

[Chaos Hokage]

Yeah, I know Matt Smith is going to be the new Doctor but I think we won't see the last of David Tennant as the 10th Doctor. After all, there's that clone of the 10th Doctor in that alternate reality w/ Rose & her mom, remember.

[Mistygemmy]

Yeah, I know Matt Smith is going to be the new Doctor but I think we won't see the last of David Tennant as the 10th Doctor. After all, there's that clone of the 10th Doctor in that alternate reality w/ Rose & her mom, remember.

I'm so hoping we'll see a little spin off about them :ohpek XD

[kizuna]

oh, i didn't realise russell was leaving. darnit jane!

i'd actually like to see the doctor with a male companion, just because :amuse mix it up a little, i say

[Ramona Flowers]

Yeah, I know Matt Smith is going to be the new Doctor but I think we won't see the last of David Tennant as the 10th Doctor. After all, there's that clone of the 10th Doctor in that alternate reality w/ Rose & her mom, remember.

That is a good point, I'd completely forgotten about that. I hope we do see something from them.

[Tyrael]

There has already been a male companion, in the old series, hasn't there?

But I reckon that the next episode could swing either way. Looks less like a special than the last two we've had so far.

I think he just said he was'nt planning on bringing him back. Anyway, these are his last episodes and he's co-writer on the next one, so maybe he's not totally "in charge".

The first episode of RD was a bit of a let down, but the last two were great. And since it's supposed to be a film I can let the first part off with it.

It had it's amusing moments, but was indeed nothing really special. Have they already shown the other episodes? I assumed it was a once a week type thing.

[masamune1]

There has already been a male companion, in the old series, hasn't there?

But I reckon that the next episode could swing either way. Looks less like a special than the last two we've had so far.

Usually, he only has male companions when he also has girls. That was true of Tennant and Eccleston too, though.

It had it's amusing moments, but was indeed nothing really special. Have they already shown the other episodes? I assumed it was a once a week type thing.

Nope. Good Friday, Easter Saturday, and Easter Sunday, with the full thing on Easter Monday. All three were shown one day after the other.

[Vault]

I didnt like the Easter special much

[kizuna]

I didnt like the Easter special much

i like the ones where he does really awesome analogies in about 5 seconds flat, then escapes and saves the day!

yeah, those little death sperms are gonna be back or something. shame he couldn't erradicate them for good :(

[Ramona Flowers]

I didnt like the Easter special much

Why not?


I thought it was really awesome, apart from the bus flying around the city for a bit. Would have prefered it to just go through the portal and stop.

[kizuna]

Why not?


I thought it was really awesome, apart from the bus flying around the city for a bit. Would have prefered it to just go through the portal and stop.

yeah, flying bus not needed :S very E.T

[ghstwrld]

BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8073734.stm)

Little-known actress Karen Gillan has been unveiled as the next assistant in Doctor Who. The 21-year-old will star alongside new Time Lord Matt Smith in the new series, to be broadcast next year.

Gillan has already appeared in the drama, having played a Soothsayer in The Fires Of Pompeii in the last run. "I am absolutely over the moon at being chosen to play the Doctor's new companion. - I just can't wait to get started," she said. "The show is such a massive phenomenon that I can't quite believe I am going to be a part of it. "Matt Smith is an incredible actor and it is going to be so much fun to act alongside him," she added. "When she auditioned alongside Matt we knew we had something special," he said.

Writer and executive producer Steven Moffat said they saw some "amazing actresses" but Gillan "walked through the door the game was up". He described her as "funny, and clever, and gorgeous, and sexy". "A generation of little girls will want to be her. And a generation of little boys will want them to be her too," he added. Head of Drama, BBC Wales, Piers Wenger said she brings "energy and excitement" to the role.

Gillan developed a love for acting after attending several youth theatre groups and taking part in various school productions. At the age of 16 she had decided to pursue her career further and left school to study acting at Edinburgh's Telford College. She went on to secure a place at the Italia Conti drama school in London and landed her first role in the Scottish drama Rebus. Parts in Channel 4's Stacked, The Kevin Bishop Show and James Nesbitt's forthcoming film Outcast followed, but her Doctor Who role is her first high profile to date.



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meh

[Femme fatale]

Hm.. I don't know. I just love the 10th Doctor so much. I'm finding it hard to let go of him and all of his companions/family :(

[Ema Skye]

She seems alright but like Matt Smith I have a feeling she is doing well on the show.

[Femme fatale]

Anyone see this possibilty of a new Dr. Who movie? It would star David Tennant :iria

Just saw it on my Yahoo browser page and was like :uwah :ohpek

That would be like, the most epic thing ever to happen in my young life haha.

[Catterix]

I think it'd be terrible to be honest. As much as I love David Tennant, and having more of him could never be a bad thing, Doctor Who is not a movie format.

TV shows don't transcend to movies very well, the only one I can think that ever even worked was Serenity from Firefly, but even that just felt like a more dramatic over-long TV show episode. They're just written differently.

The only way I can imagine it working is if they just had a very long episode, with a higher budet, and have it shown in the cinema. If they made a movie, it'd be too tempting to make it more epic, plot-changing, dramatic, etc. and it just wouldn't work.

[masamune1]

Movie adaptations generally work if they choose to expand upon a plot from the TV series.

Well, that's how Star Trek films worked (the new one exempted, but that's a reboot of sorts so it does'nt count. The best ones were the ones that did'nt stick to totally original plots and hence just become glorified episodes (ie. exactly what you are suggesting). The first X-Files film was okay and that was relevant to the story; the second was'nt relevant and it did'nt do very well.

They should probably use a plot and villlain from the seris, albeit prefferably one who we have'nt seen that much of (say, Omega), rather than more Daleks/ Cyberman/ Master who we know are going to be utterly defeated and we know are going to come back anyway.

[Femme fatale]

I see what your saying, but the fangirl inside of me is just too excited by the idea of David on the big screen :hehee

Overall I think they could make it work. They've got amazing writers and amazing actors - and im sure they'd give quite a big budget to a show as popular as Dr. Who.

[masamune1]

I see what your saying, but the fangirl inside of me is just too excited by the idea of David on the big screen :hehee

Overall I think they could make it work. They've got amazing writers and amazing actors - and im sure they'd give quite a big budget to a show as popular as Dr. Who.

He was in Harry Potter, you know.

I don't like his Doctor that much. I prefer Eccleston, mostly because he showed more fear. Hence, you felt more fear. And Doctor Who is supposed to be scary.

[masamune1]

http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/blog/article/207058/


Doctors unite for Children In Need special

This year's Doctor Who Children In Need special will reportedly bring together all 11 Doctors for the first time in the show's history.

The 15-minute episode, to be screened in November, will include the first appearance by brand new Doctor Matt Smith, reports the Daily Mirror.

The first three Doctors, played by deceased actors William Hartnell, Patrick Troughton and Jon Pertwee, will appear thanks to the use of footage from the BBC's archives.

A Doctor Who source told the paper: "This is a momentous episode for all Doctor Who fans. Never before have all the Doctors been in the same room, let alone in the same show.

"It's been a logistical nightmare getting all the actors together and available for shooting on the same days."

The script will see current Doctor David Tennant enlisting the help of his previous incarnations as he attempts to hunt down a piece of time travel apparatus.

Although this episode will feature all the Doctors for the first time, it won't be first occasion when more than one Doctor has appeared together on screen.

Two years ago, Peter Davidson appeared alongside David Tennant in a special mini-episode called Time Crash and 1993 special Dimensions In Time saw Doctors three to seven turn up in Albert Square. Meanwhile, back in 1983 The Five Doctors featured Doctors one to five, however, William Hartnell was replaced by Richard Hurndall.

[Femme fatale]

He was in Harry Potter, you know.

I don't like his Doctor that much. I prefer Eccleston, mostly because he showed more fear. Hence, you felt more fear. And Doctor Who is supposed to be scary.

Yes, I do know that. I meant as a lead role.

[Catterix]

Still loved Tennant in Einstein & Eddington that was brilliant. Terrific acting from Tennant there. Still, nothing beats him performing live! :drool Saw him as Hamlet last summer, he brushed my arm. Never forgot that :nuts

I like the sound of this 11 Doctors special, here's hoping the footage of the deceased Doctor's is worth watching, video quality difference will look odd.

And lol that all the old Doctors will now be quite tubby compared to Eccleston, Tennant and Smith :P

[masamune1]

^Sylvester McCoy isn't, but all the others are (well, him and Paul McGann).

[Catterix]

PAUL MCGANN isn't going to be in the special? :amazed

Or do you mean they won't be tubby in comparison?

Mind you, Kate Moss is tubby in comparison with Tennant and Smith! We need a chunky Doctor. Beer belly Doctor!!! :yell

[Femme fatale]

Still loved Tennant in Einstein & Eddington that was brilliant. Terrific acting from Tennant there. Still, nothing beats him performing live! :drool Saw him as Hamlet last summer, he brushed my arm. Never forgot that :nuts

I like the sound of this 11 Doctors special, here's hoping the footage of the deceased Doctor's is worth watching, video quality difference will look odd.

And lol that all the old Doctors will now be quite tubby compared to Eccleston, Tennant and Smith :P

Me too :pimp
I got his autograoph yeeeeaah.

[masamune1]

PAUL MCGANN isn't going to be in the special? :amazed

Or do you mean they won't be tubby in comparison?


Yeah, I mean they are'nt tubby.

[Kilowog]

http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/gallery/8/2009/07/medium_3739325752_77094415d3_o.jpg

[masamune1]

The black was better.

[Catterix]

Much better.

I think that costume looks absolutely shit, to be frank.

He doesn't have to be in a street-wise, "cool", slick outfit, as that'd go against the tradition of the Doctor, as he's almost always worn something slightly flambouyant.

But a tweed suit with a dickie bow?

Really...?

[Ema Skye]

Not liking what the doctor is wearing but I do like Amy Pond's converses :hurr

[Femme fatale]

Tennant could have pulled it off :pek





:LOS

[ghstwrld]

I hope they drop the lame trench coat. :hurr

[ghstwrld]

ClNAiVhcIMA


NcQcaucYOc0

[citizentiger]

I prefer torchwood to dr. who although both can be laughably bad.

but I go for that sort of thing. I have the Othersiders on my Tivo list, even though I'm usually watching Futurama reruns at 9 pm on Wednesdays.

[Catterix]

Wow, looks amazing. The End Of Time. I love John Simm, so glad to see him and David Tennant face off again.

Can't believe that Tennant's now filmed his final episodes. The reign of Tennant, Russell T Davies, Julie Gardner are... over!! :cry

It's actually finished for them. It's done.

:(

[Bear Walken]

http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/gallery/8/2009/07/medium_3739325752_77094415d3_o.jpg

Who's the cute red head ? :iria

[Ramona Flowers]

Is that the new assistant?

[Catterix]

Yes, it is.

Amy Pond.

Another character with a watery name. Like River Song.

[Ema Skye]

Donna :ohpek

Is it me or is the Master's hair color different?

[Tyrael]

Damn, do those trailers get my blood running. Because I'm cool like that, I've caught a few of the episodes from series 3 on repeat. This new boy has a lot to live up to with Tennant going.

[Vaz]

http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/gallery/8/2009/07/medium_3739325752_77094415d3_o.jpgShe looks fucking adorable :wtf

[Dellyshess]

They look brilliant together! I'm going to miss Tennant but right now I really can't wait until the next year. I have a feeling Matt will be fantastic.

[Catterix]

Any word on when the new series will air?

Because if they're filming in July, that implies a January/February release.

[masamune1]

April, or late March. That's when the last ones aired.

I think at present they are just filming the start of the season, so since it's thirteen episodes it could probably go on until late September or into October.

[Catterix]

Indeed, Series 1-4 aired March/April to July. But I have this impression somewhere the Moffat wanted Who to be a Winter series, which started rumours that Series 5 was going to air in November 2010.

But when I saw these shooting photos, I began to wonder if late winter might not be his plan. Series 1-4 were shot between September and February, to then start airing in March.

July is very early to be filming.

This also isn't helped by David Tennant saying that he's hoping that people will be; "Sad that I'm gone in Christmas, but then in three weeks time, be in love with Matt Smith as the Doctor"... This is largely a reflection on him saying that it took him only 3 weeks to love Peter Davidson, and probably means nothing... but still :P

[Vaz]

They look brilliant together! I'm going to miss Tennant but right now I really can't wait until the next year. I have a feeling Matt will be fantastic.Judging by your avatar, I'm very certain you will :hehee

[Femme fatale]

Anyone make it to Comic Con?

[Femme fatale]

http://i31.tinypic.com/e9byqe.jpg

:zaru

[Vaz]

Let's not get into that :hehee

[Femme fatale]

Not my words - Kanye's :zaru

[Vault]

I actually agree with Kanye here :pek

Im going to miss you Tennant

[Bear Walken]

Wow!

Sure are a shit load of Timelords.

[TDM]

I'm worried that the new series is raising the stakes far too quickly and is going to just run out of room altogether to work with.

[T.D.A]

tennant is probably the best actor ever to be in the series, but I think matt smith will do a good job, tennant is just on another level in acting, matt smith is still young.

[Vault]

http://i31.tinypic.com/e9byqe.jpg

:zaru

Christopher was superior imo :quite

[The Cheat]

Who knows, matt smith may turn out to be better than tennant. People had doubts about tennannt.

[Vault]

Because Christopher was just so fucking godly :quite

[The Cheat]

Though ecclecson seems to be of the least popular doctors. Tennant has made it to the top 5.

[Vault]

Wow!

Sure are a shit load of Timelords.

Umm well it was a race before

[Catterix]

I'm worried that the new series is raising the stakes far too quickly and is going to just run out of room altogether to work with.

I don't see how :S

What do you mean exactly?

tennant is probably the best actor ever to be in the series, but I think matt smith will do a good job, tennant is just on another level in acting, matt smith is still young.

Tennant is amazing, but there are other brilliant actors. There's nothing to say Matt Smith can't fill those boots. He might have a completely different acting style, which could save him. Both Eccleston and Tennant have extremely expressionate faces, ridiculously over the top. Whereas, other actors, have a much more reserved style, expressing emotion in the flick of an eyebrow, etc. it's possible that Smith could be like this (He is in Party Animals), and that could be a saving grace as it'd be harder to compare the two.

Though ecclecson seems to be of the least popular doctors. Tennant has made it to the top 5.

The 9th Doctor was one of the least popular Doctors, which is understandable as he had an incredibly short run, wasn't much of a fun character and a bit too brooding.

Eccleston however, is considered one of the UK's greatest actors.

[The Cheat]

I don't see how :S

What do you mean exactly?



Tennant is amazing, but there are other brilliant actors. There's nothing to say Matt Smith can't fill those boots. He might have a completely different acting style, which could save him. Both Eccleston and Tennant have extremely expressionate faces, ridiculously over the top. Whereas, other actors, have a much more reserved style, expressing emotion in the flick of an eyebrow, etc. it's possible that Smith could be like this (He is in Party Animals), and that could be a saving grace as it'd be harder to compare the two.



The 9th Doctor was one of the least popular Doctors, which is understandable as he had an incredibly short run, wasn't much of a fun character and a bit too brooding.

Eccleston however, is considered one of the UK's greatest actors.

I have a feeling tennat will still go on to be one of the most popular doctors right up there with tom baker and jon pertwee. He has the bragging rights of beating tom baker TWICE. I heard tom baker even admitted to tennatn being a better doctor then he ever was.

[Catterix]

I have a feeling tennat will still go on to be one of the most popular doctors right up there with tom baker and jon pertwee. He has the bragging rights of beating tom baker TWICE. I heard tom baker even admitted to tennatn being a better doctor then he ever was.

I see. Right. And what's your point? :S

[Vault]

ridiculously over the top

Correct me if im wrong but isnt how the doctor is meant to be, he has a touch of insanity ya know

[TDM]

I don't see how :S

What do you mean exactly?How is the Eleventh Doctor going to be able to follow up the newest return of the Master, the Time Lords, and the "end of time itself" without seeming...frivolous?

[Vault]

The daleks nearly wiped out all reality and never did i find that trifling

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

Fuck damn it,finally found the Doctor Who Thread.:sun


:O Time Lords/Ladies(seldom named Chronarchs)) and Gallifrey FTW.:ho

The Narrator is maybe Omega(the real 1st Time Lord by blowing up a star for a blackhole,so everything started 10 million years ago).:edu :wtf

And Time Lords/Ladies(seldom named Chronarchs)are the elite sub race of the planet i.e oligarch rulers..:hoho

[Vault]

Not the narrator his name be Timothy Dalton :pek

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

The character Omega is wayyyyyyy better than Rassilon,being in a anti matter universe for 10 million years:ho

[Tyrael]

I'm contemplating putting a pic of the Master in my sig. Although, I did find him throwing about lightning a bit...

How is the Eleventh Doctor going to be able to follow up the newest return of the Master, the Time Lords, and the "end of time itself" without seeming...frivolous?

Steven Moffat will be writing the new series. If he's true to the form he showed in Silence in the Library/The Empty Forest or Blink then really you have no need to worry. Just because we've got old names like The Master and Daleks and Cybermen flying about doesn't necessarily mean they are going to be good and vice versa. It's the writing and directing and acting and so on that'll really determine how well the new series will compare to RTD's time.

--

No, my worry is about the Tennant's finale is that there is too much here and not enough time to develop everything set-up in The End of Time properly in the final episode. RTD has had a terrible habit of building things up brilliantly and then copping out at the end. That last episode has set up enough to potentially last a whole series: how can it be brought together in a satisfying way? If Wilf turns out to be some random deus ex machina that will appear in the last five minutes and everything will be sorted then it might taste a little bitter, considering just how awesome The End of Time was. Still, I hope that I'll be proven wrong on new year's day.

I also have a suspicion that neither The Master not the Time Lords will be the one to kill him.

[T.D.A]

I think the master will try and save the doctor.

[masamune1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaB3Crbz_D0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D58sAprsnPU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQPBPjK2CV4


Oh, and I'm betting Wilf is a Time Lord, but had one of those watch things that made him human.

EDIT- Also, on the comments part of that last clip someone suggested that Dalton is the Valeyard. He probably isn't but it would be interesting if he was.

[TDM]

Steven Moffat will be writing the new series. If he's true to the form he showed in Silence in the Library/The Empty Forest or Blink then really you have no need to worry. Just because we've got old names like The Master and Daleks and Cybermen flying about doesn't necessarily mean they are going to be good and vice versa. It's the writing and directing and acting and so on that'll really determine how well the new series will compare to RTD's time.That's actually pretty reassuring, now that I think about it. I really like the writing that Moffat has done; it's the kind of low-key quality that still maintains a tone of horror that I adore.

I think I share your worries about Tennant's finale, as well, though.Oh, and I'm betting Wilf is a Time Lord, but had one of those watch things that made him human.Disappointingly, I can see that happening (there was a Chekhov's ... uh...Derringer when Wilf and the old folks found the Doctor so quickly).

EDIT: what do you guys think is going to happen once the Doctor is finished with his Thirteenth Regeneration? Rather, what kind of applied phlebotinum (thank you, TV Tropes!) is going to allow him to continue?

[masamune1]

EDIT: what do you guys think is going to happen once the Doctor is finished with his Thirteenth Regeneration? Rather, what kind of applied phlebotinum (thank you, TV Tropes!) is going to allow him to continue?

Time Lord's can have than one set of regenerations. The Master is on his second (or is that third?).

[The Cheat]

Don't you have to be revived to have a net set of renegerations?

[masamune1]

Don't you have to be revived to have a net set of renegerations?

No.

ykiunerhfhjs

[T.D.A]

Part 2 is 1hr and 15 mins long.

[Catterix]

Correct me if im wrong but isnt how the doctor is meant to be, he has a touch of insanity ya know

I wasn't criticising. No need to jump to their defense. Tennant is possibly my favourite actor ever, and his style is ridiculous, over the top expressions. He performs very "above natural". It's very theatrical. His incarnation of the Doctor is very frenetic and intense, whereas, say, Hartnell, or Pertwee's Doctors are very understated, and as such you need a different kind of actor for that.

Tennant is also perfectly capable of very subtle styles too. His scene with Wilf in the Cafe being a perfect example.

Matt Smith has a very understated style. He's one of those very minimal actors, which a lot of people actually mistake for being a bad actor. A good example is Kristen Stewart, as Bella in Twilight, she tries to do the understated style and can't.

Neither style is better than the other. Hartnell and Pertwee aren't as good at doing understated as Tennant is at doing frenetic.

Don't you have to be revived to have a net set of renegerations?

Nah, The Timelords offered the Master a new set of Regenerations for helping them back in the 70s.

[Bear Walken]

Umm well it was a race before

Thought the one we've been following was the only one til Master showed up. Now here comes a shit load of them. Where have they been ?

[Catterix]

Thought the one we've been following was the only one til Master showed up. Now here comes a shit load of them. Where have they been ?

They were originally a full race of people, who lived on the planet Gallifrey. In the original series (1963-1987) they were present throughout the show and popped up fairly regularly.

Then, in the gap between the 1996 TV movie and the 2005 revival, the 8th Doctor took part in the Time War, which was a battle between the Daleks and the TimeLords. The battle was so intense it could've destroyed the entire universe, and so the Doctor had to seal both the Daleks and the TimeLords in a Time-Lock. They were trapped, frozen in time, impossible access. Essentially, he had to kill his own species in order to save the universe. And being unable to go back across his own timeline, this means the Doctor could never see the TimeLords again, their presence was wiped from history.

And now it seems they've returned.

[Vault]

Well i think the anormally happened since Oads can see through time probably the same is happening to the timelords so they are probably timelords of some million years ago but now see these events

[Catterix]

According to Russell T Davies, these are bad Timelords.

I can't decide if he was saying that Timelords have always been bad, or if these ones are just especially evil.

[masamune1]

They were originally a full race of people, who lived on the planet Gallifrey. In the original series (1963-1987) they were present throughout the show and popped up fairly regularly.

Then, in the gap between the 1996 TV movie and the 2005 revival, the 8th Doctor took part in the Time War, which was a battle between the Daleks and the TimeLords. The battle was so intense it could've destroyed the entire universe, and so the Doctor had to seal both the Daleks and the TimeLords in a Time-Lock. They were trapped, frozen in time, impossible access. Essentially, he had to kill his own species in order to save the universe. And being unable to go back across his own timeline, this means the Doctor could never see the TimeLords again, their presence was wiped from history.

And now it seems they've returned.

The War is time-locked, but The Doctor did not lock it. He alludes to personally destroying both the Daleks and the Time Lords and I believe he specifically mentions Gallifrey "burning" at one point.

It's never said exactly what he did but it was probably that Delta Wave thing he was going to do- whatever it was- at the end the first season, when the Daleks were about to invade Earth and then start carving out another empire. The Dalek Emperor recognises it (of course, Dalek's are geniuses so he ight know about it anyway) and notes that it would kill all the Daleks and everything on Earth, which sounds just like what happened at the end of the war.

Of course, that's just a theory. Hopefully, we'll find out what actually happened in the next episode.

[Tyrael]

Hopefully, we'll find out what actually happened in the next episode.

Eh, I'm not so sure that that'd be a good thing. A lot of The Doctor's charisma comes from the distance he always has from everyone else around him - except, of course, from The Master. Any attempts to explain either his or The Master's pasts needs to be handled really carefully. Take away the mystery and you will harm the characters' appeal.

[masamune1]

Eh, I'm not so sure that that'd be a good thing. A lot of The Doctor's charisma comes from the distance he always has from everyone else around him - except, of course, from The Master. Any attempts to explain either his or The Master's pasts needs to be handled really carefully. Take away the mystery and you will harm the characters' appeal.

I don't think clearing up a single detail of what we know he did when he was somewhere between 800-900 years old is something we have to worry about in this regard.

[T.D.A]

they should be at least able to conclude some stuff properly in a 75 min episode.

[The Cheat]

No one will ever be stupid enough to fully reveal the doctor's past. His past probaly isnn't even that intriging.

[masamune1]

You do all know that we do know quite a bit about The Doctor's past already, don't you?

[The Cheat]

I meant the full story about the doctor's past.

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

The Other: 3rd Chronarch(i.e Time Lord/Lady )Society Founder ,advisor of Rassilon+Omega,one of the creator of the TARDIS and member of the High Council.:edu

Grandfather of Susan,reincarnated as the Doctor but still a damn mystery.:ho

[masamune1]

The Other: 3rd Chronarch(i.e Time Lord/Lady )Society Founder ,advisor of Rassilon+Omega,one of the creator of the TARDIS and member of the High Council.

Grandfather of Susan,reincarnated as the Doctor but still a damn mystery.:ho

?

I'm pretty sure The 1st Doctor is the grandfather of Susan. Not his past-self. Hence her calling him "grandfather".

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

Read Lungbarrow,makes clear why.:ho

[masamune1]

Read Lungbarrow,makes clear why.:ho

Non-canon (The Other is semi-canon).

[Catterix]

Oh, never knew about the reincarnation. Certainly hope that isn't considered canon within the TV series :oh Sounds awful.

All I really know is;
Raised in the academy, alongside the Master.
Ran away from the temporal schism, whereas the Master went insane.
Detested the Time Lords for their arrogance and left.
-700 years of blank space-
Somehow boinks a Timelady. Who boinks a man. Giving the Doctor a granddaughter.
The Doctor and Susan are on the run from the Time Lords because the Doctor broke the vow never to interfere, so they decide to live on Earth, the Doctor's favourite planet.

Cue the show starting.

[The Cheat]

ISn't it hinted that the doctor had a bad past or something?

[Catterix]

Not especially, that I know of.

Unless you mean in the new series, in which it's regularly stated that the Doctor is still suffering because he essentially had to wipe out his entire race by himself.

[T.D.A]

Wilfred is the Doctor just one from the future, who came during this time and forgot himself and became old. :kaga

[masamune1]

Oh, never knew about the reincarnation. Certainly hope that isn't considered canon within the TV series :oh Sounds awful.

It's not canon (since it was never properly developed) but it was'nt that bad an idea. It was intended to bring back a sense of mystery and awe that was felt to be absent at the time. The new series had him commit genocide twice over for that effect (not that the 7th Doctor was above that, either- ask the Daleks or the Cybermen).

All I really know is;
Raised in the academy, alongside the Master.
Ran away from the temporal schism, whereas the Master went insane.
Detested the Time Lords for their arrogance and left.
-700 years of blank space-
Somehow boinks a Timelady. Who boinks a man. Giving the Doctor a granddaughter.
The Doctor and Susan are on the run from the Time Lords because the Doctor broke the vow never to interfere, so they decide to live on Earth, the Doctor's favourite planet.

Cue the show starting.

Hmmm....It's more like:

- Went to the Academy alongside the Master; don't know if they lived there- the Master just now talked about how they used to play on his dad's estate.
- Boinks a time lady an has at least one kid. Said kid has a kid of their own, his granddaughter Susan.
- Shortly thereafter (when Susan is still 12) nicks a TARDIS and runs off with her. Reasons undisclosed; seems to be about rebelling against the system and all that stuff.
- Moves to Earth. Cue start of the 1st series. The 1st Doctor seems to have a pretty ordinary lifespan, since he dies of old age. When he becomes the 2nd Doctor comments that he is in his 400's. The majority of the show then takes place over the span of 500 years of his life.

[The Cheat]

His actual age is pretty inconsistent throughout the contunuity, he's been older than 903.

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

:Ohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm4A__COtAU&feature=related
Damn,what a cliffhanger.:wtf
What is the soundtrack of the last scene?(It's not "all strange creatures",which was used for the "master race"scenes).:edu


OMEGA,come back to screw the Time Lords/Time Ladies again and kick some ass.:ho :hoho

[Vault]

I love the fact that the master seem superior to the doctor in every way

[masamune1]

I love the fact that the master seem superior to the doctor in every way

How so? tyuioplk

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

The Master is a dick,can't blame the guy.At least he's not a President,otherwise the universe will explode.:ho

[Vault]

How so? tyuioplk

He tends to pwn the doctor alot.

[Ema Skye]

That episode was awesome, can't wait for the doctor's regeneration :X3

[masamune1]

He tends to pwn the doctor alot.

The Doctor pwn's him more often.

And right now he is just a pawn of James Bond's 4th incarnation. So this should'nt count.

[Vault]

I actually think Dalton was the best Bond tbh.

The doctor last time out had to ass pull to win against The master.

[masamune1]

I actually think Dalton was the best Bond tbh.

The doctor last time out had to ass pull to win against The master.

The Master should have known the Doctor was going to do something like that- he did'nt. And he spent a whole year preparing for The Doctor too. He probably can't kill the Doctor, same way The Doctor can't kill The Master. They need each other.

He's also on his second set of regenerations, following using up a bunch of host bodies, so he's got himself killed a lot more too. The Master is a great character, but he's definitely not superior to The Doctor in every way.

And Dalton is indeed a great Bond. I do so love it that 007 is turning out to be one of The Doctor's deadiest enemies.

[Shadow]

Time Lord Supreme will be known next episode. Rather Time Lords are Back Next Episode!!!!

[masamune1]

Time Lord Supreme will be known next episode. Rather Time Lords are Back Next Episode!!!!

The title is Lord-President.

Actually, The Doctor used to be this. So did his companion Romana.

Could be that he's nobody in particular; just another Time Lord who happens to be the guy in charge, a new character. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

It's Omega hiding as the Narrator and the Doctor was TWICE Lord President.:ho

[masamune1]

It's not Omega (that would be awful- this is beneath him), and was he Lord President twice? Or was it that he was elected Lord President, but ignored his responsibilities and had to be forced to accept them later on?

[Shadow]

Wow you guys must not have seen the Doctor Who Special then...............but I don't want to spoil you but they gave out the spoilers for next weeks episode already

[masamune1]

Yes, I've seen it, and I posted those spoilers two pages ago.

We know Timothy Dalton is the Lord-President of the Time Lords, but that is only his title. We are just wondering if he might not also be a character from the original series.

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

Does RTD knew that this was the 30th overall series/season and should keep the tradition of an requiring character returning?:notrust

Season 10 and 20 of the original series,both had 1st serial story with........................Peylix aka Omega.:O .:edu

[Catterix]

lol I wouldn't be surprised if he does know. Old Doctor Who fans really don't give RTD enough credit sometimes, but I'd imagine he's perfectly aware of all traditions within the show, official or un-official. And if he doesn't, then there's definitely an encycolpedia-man working with the BBC who does.

Can't wait for the special tomorrow. I hope it pulls together the rather dodgy ending of Part 1.

[The Cheat]

The last episode was pretty lackluster and the master was too hammy. I literally laughed at the master race. Jesus ,that has to be one of the hilarious villanious plans I've ever seen.

[Catterix]

For me, the episode wasn't the least bit lackluster except for the beginning (seriously, wtf was that witchcraft bullshit?) and the end. The 45 minutes inbetween were absolutely brilliant and I was on the edge of my seat, minus hoping that the Immortality Gate would get a fucking explanation as to how and truly why.

But yes, the end was just weird. I didn't know whether to be chilled or scoff as the "Master Race" line. It sounded too much like a pun, but it was good in that doing that brought back the social knowledge of Nazism and delivered an ambience to the scene. As far as I can tell, there really is no plan here. The Master simply decided to bitchslap the Doctor and take away everything that he likes about humanity; their individuality, their personalities, their philosophies, cultures, everything. He turned humanity into the Master, he transformed the Doctor's favourite race into the Doctor's arch nemesis.

For no other purpose than a slap in the face. Hopefully the Master has... some sort of extra plan to do with this new Master race... Even if it's just conquer.

[Tyrael]

I'm thinking about dipping back into the older series - not seen any of them since I was a child - so where would be a good place to start?

I don't think clearing up a single detail of what we know he did when he was somewhere between 800-900 years old is something we have to worry about in this regard.

I'm probably just de-hyping it so that I won't get disappointed. Really, if they execute it correctly they could tell us every minute detail about The Doctors life yet keep him remaining a mystery.

The last episode was pretty lackluster and the master was too hammy. I literally laughed at the master race. Jesus ,that has to be one of the hilarious villanious plans I've ever seen.

I liked the episode a lot, although I do agree with Catterix about the ritual nonsense. Doctor Who generally goes for over the top, but that means sometimes they get it wrong and the results are laughable. The line "master race" was a horrible, horrible pun. I think the crazy whimsy nature of the Master's reactions when he turned the whole human race into himself actually made the scene darker though.

For no other purpose than a slap in the face. Hopefully the Master has... some sort of extra plan to do with this new Master race... Even if it's just conquer.

Aren't the Master and the Doctor similar in that they tend to make it up as they go along?

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

They used to study together.:ho

[Catterix]

Really the only bit I want to know about the Doctor, is why he had such a lonely childhood. It's emphasised in several episodes, most especially; The Girl in the Fireplace. And I just want to know what was so lonely about his childhood, do we know anything about his parents?

[T.D.A]

Really the only bit I want to know about the Doctor, is why he had such a lonely childhood. It's emphasised in several episodes, most especially; The Girl in the Fireplace. And I just want to know what was so lonely about his childhood, do we know anything about his parents?

That was written by steven moffat as well. He's a pretty talented writer.

[Catterix]

That was written by steven moffat as well. He's a pretty talented writer.

lol Yeah, I know :) I do apologise, but I'm scarily obsessed with the writing of Doctor Who more than anything else in the show. :oh I do love Stephen Moffat, though I find elements of his stories tend to feel a little fruitless, but that's often because he has such granduer storylines that can't fit into 45 minutes. So sometimes I feel he seems a little constrained, which is why I cannot wait for his season of Doctor Who this spring, when he gets to really let his stories take charge.

And well, today's the day folks. 1 hour until David Tennant's last adventure, Russell T Davies' last story and Julie Gardner's last production, and then it's an all new who.

[The Cheat]

Can you upload the episode, it afternoon here in the us and the episode doesn't air until tommorrow. Hopefully, Moffat won't be polarizing as some as RTD was.

[Vault]

Oh i was right about them seeing through time like the Oads, didnt see the implanting of the drums though

[Catterix]

Amazing. There were a few flaws, yes. But amazing. Just utterly, utterly amazing. I cried about three times. Fuck me, that was just... Good Bye David Tennant. Number 10. My Doctor.

Can you upload the episode, it afternoon here in the us and the episode doesn't air until tommorrow. Hopefully, Moffat won't be polarizing as some as RTD was.

Wait until tomorrow and watch it on TV, rather than your computer.

[Vault]

The ending was amazing :del Nice send off

[masamune1]

Rassilon, eh?

Well, I prefer that to Omega. If he was Omega, he needed the helmet.

[T.D.A]

the new series trailer looked good, matt smith seems he's capable enough.

[Tyrael]

A fitting end.

:thumbs

[masamune1]

Was that an older model Dalek I saw?

[Tyrael]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnPUF8an-XE

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

Holy fuck,The Narrator is RASSILON.:argh

[T.D.A]

i like the look of next season. got some style to it.

[The Cheat]

The trialer was awesome. The weeping angels scared the hit out of me in thier debut episode, its good to see them back.

[Vault]

This doctor punches and shoots guns :argh

[T.D.A]

awesome :awesome

btw who was that lady? we still dnt know who she was.

[masamune1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnPUF8an-XE

Yep; that Dalek looks old.

Also, I see that girl from that Library two-parter is back. So this is The Doctor she falls in love with.

awesome :awesome

btw who was that lady? we still dnt know who she was.

His mum?

[Vault]

I thought it could be the mom :hmm

[masamune1]

I like the info on the Time War. The Cybermen were wiped out in it as well, it seems, and I hope those baddies the Doctor talked about will show up later in the series.

[Vault]

Nightmare child?

[Vaz]

Holy fuck the 11th shooting at stuff and upper cutting people. Awesomesauce.

And I love the new companion <3

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

:O What a wacky episode(although the ending is funny+tear jerking).

It was mention in the books that Rassilon and corrupted Time Lords & Time Ladies were insane/lunatics/xenophobics(placing time loops on /destroying planets and/or races,cause of their possible surpassing of the Time Lords & Time Ladies civilisation) etc etc.:amazed

So not only is this true,it's also officially confirms that Rassilon+others were/are indeed true villains for everyone in the universe(Rassilon took credits for things he himself didn't create,but they came mostly from others).:sun

You think that Omega is crazy due to his nature,but his was at the right end all long(i.e screwing the corrupted Time Lords & Time Ladies for being trapped in the anti matter universe).:ho

The mysterious woman is either Romana or Susan.:edu

I wonder what will further happen with the Master and the rest.(self-sacrifice and vanishing).:hmm

LOL at the new spoilers.:urahaha

Gallifrey must be the size of Jupiter.:hoho

[Banhammer]

So. Only one doctor left?

[The Cheat]

two doctors left.

[Kilowog]

Time Lords have 12 generations, including the one he was born with that makes 13 lives :edu

though there are ways to circumvent this, I mean The Master has had a couple dozen lives. Also the Time Lord council has stated they can give new lives out to those they wish.

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

I was wondering: how the fuck could Rassilon be brought back from his tomb?
And what the fuck going to happen now with The Master+the rest?:argh

Seems like the Time Lock will be broken piece by piece.:ho

[Ema Skye]

The Doctor's regeneration scene wasn't as powerful as I thought it would be. The last 20 min. were kind of meh, but everything else was great.

"I'm still not ginger!" :-(

[Kilowog]

"Worst. Rescue. Ever."

:rotflhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnPUF8an-XEholy. I just noticed the wife from 'Forest of the Dead' is in that

I thought it could be the mom :hmm

official podcast confirms the female time lord who spoke with Wilfred was indeed the Doctor's mother

[Vault]

What about the other doctor who stayed with Rose after the arm regenerated? There were 2 of them and one stayed with Rose, was he completely human i forgot that episode

[Shadow]

HE was completely human according to him but with all his memories. Although I wonder if he re-generated as well.

Also the new companion is looking mighty feisty

[masamune1]

Nightmare child?

And the King of Nothing. And who knows what else.



It was mention in the books that Rassilon and corrupted Time Lords & Time Ladies were insane/lunatics/xenophobics(placing time loops on /destroying planets and/or races,cause of their possible surpassing of the Time Lords & Time Ladies civilisation) etc etc.:amazed

So not only is this true,it's also officially confirms that Rassilon+others were/are indeed true villains for everyone in the universe(Rassilon took credits for things he himself didn't create,but they came mostly from others).:sun

You think that Omega is crazy due to his nature,but his was at the right end all long(i.e screwing the corrupted Time Lords & Time Ladies for being trapped in the anti matter universe).:ho


The serial The Five Doctors confirmed this long ago.

So. Only one doctor left?

two doctors left.

Time Lords have 12 generations, including the one he was born with that makes 13 lives :edu

though there are ways to circumvent this, I mean The Master has had a couple dozen lives. Also the Time Lord council has stated they can give new lives out to those they wish.

^Yeah, that.

Matt Smith is the 11th Doctor, so two left not counting him.

I was wondering: how the fuck could Rassilon be brought back from his tomb?
And what the fuck going to happen now with The Master+the rest?:argh

Seems like the Time Lock will be broken piece by piece.:ho

Time travel.

Also as I understand it was hinted he was never really dead in the first place.

[Shadow]

So I guess I either have to read books to understand who those time lords were huh

[masamune1]

So I guess I either have to read books to understand who those time lords were huh

Nope; just watch a few of the old series' episodes. Or scroll through Wikipedia. The books are'nt even really canon, anyway.

In a nutshell, Timothy Dalton was Rassilon, the sinister founder of the Time Lords who betrayed and mortally wounded his partner Omega, who survived but ended up trapped somehere and went crazy. Since Rassilon is supposed to be long dead (or at least gone) by the time the original series started, and The Doctor exposed him as a pretty dangerous lunatic, it's not clear how he is the Lord-President again.

The Time Lords he was narrating to were the Council, the ruling body of Gallifrey. The other ones were seemngly his Cabinet, the crazy old women seems to be to them what Dalek Caan was to Davros and co. in the new series, except that it looks like the Time Lord's did this to her themselves.

That's it, really. These Time Lords are just regular Time Lords, the only difference is they happen tobe in charge during the Time War. The books won't tell you much about them.

[The Cheat]

I'm a bit confused, aren't the time lords supposed to be dead? Why the doctor would be so angry at himself if the timelords became corrupt?

[Wintrale]

I'm a bit confused, aren't the time lords supposed to be dead? Why the doctor would be so angry at himself if the timelords became corrupt?

The best way to see it is that the Time Lords are incredibly powerful. They can end wars simply by going back in time and killing the instigators before they were even born. That much power is easy to be corrupted by, especially when the people in question are near-immortal beings whose only real fear is dying.

The Doctor did what he could to stop them ending time itself, locking them into a fixed point of time rather than outright killing them, but obviously they were more resourceful than he thought - going back in time and planting their escape route inside the head of the Doctor's friend, the Master.

I'm going to miss Ten, Saxon, Rose, Jack and Donna... That we'll never see any of them ever again is truly saddening. Tennant gave us Brits a TV show to be greatly proud of and he wasn't the only one who didn't want to see him go. :(

[masamune1]

I'm a bit confused, aren't the time lords supposed to be dead? Why the doctor would be so angry at himself if the timelords became corrupt?

Because they were his people. They might have become corrupt, but that does'nt make him feel any better about wiping out his entire species. Plus it was the Time Lord government that was corrupt, not every Time Lord ever.

"Corrupt" isn't the right word, anyway. They had been stagnant and pedantic for a long time, and that's probably why The Doctor left in the first place. He wiped them out more to kill the Daleks than the Time Lords, as the Daleks were on the verge of winning the Time War and, consequently, killing everything else in existence.

Desperate is a better word, as the Time Lords were considering putting an end to Time itself to prevent that happening, and getting rid of all the horrors the war had created as well. Rassilon, the Lord President, was a lunatic, but he was probably only in power because the others were so desperate, and would'nt have so much influence- or be such a threat- if things were more peaceful.

[Ema Skye]

I'm going to miss Ten, Saxon, Rose, Jack and Donna... That we'll never see any of them ever again is truly saddening. Tennant gave us Brits a TV show to be greatly proud of and he wasn't the only one who didn't want to see him go. :(

Well Jack will make a return to season 4 of Torchwood (http://gallifreynewsbase.blogspot.com/2009/11/barrowman-signed-up-for-torchwood-4.html), so John Barrowman is not quite gone from the who-universe yet :zaru

[Catterix]

lol The least interesting character is the one who sticks around :P

I want my Donna :(

[Shadow]

Anyone know when exactly the new season will start? They keep saying Spring but no definite date.

Anyone else think that in 2013 the entire series will be over considering there are only 2 Doctor Regenerations left? I mean holy fuckin shit 50 years of Doctor Who.

[masamune1]

Anyone know when exactly the new season will start? They keep saying Spring but no definite date.

Anyone else think that in 2013 the entire series will be over considering there are only 2 Doctor Regenerations left? I mean holy fuckin shit 50 years of Doctor Who.

No firm date has been set yet. Just Spring.

And of course it won't end in 2013. Firstly, the average Doctor lasts 3-4 years, and Tom Baker lasted 7. 2018 is closer to the mark.

And secondly, there are plenty of ways to get aroud this. The Master is on his second set of regenerations, so there is no reason The Doctor will not get something similar. The 50 Year mark means nothing, except that we'll probably get a special of some sort.

[Catterix]

Anyone else think that in 2013 the entire series will be over considering there are only 2 Doctor Regenerations left? I mean holy fuckin shit 50 years of Doctor Who.

... wut? That would only make sense if each Doctor only lasted for one season at a time. Most Doctors have at least 3+. Eccleston was the only exception because Russell T Davies wanted the first series to be the full Doctor who experience; regeneration included.

And yeah, it's a very rare idea that anyone would want to end this show in 3 years time. I don't see why Stephen Moffat would want to cut his new career short extra early.

So if they want to, there's going to be a way of extending the show, through any means.

[Tyrael]

The only way I could imagine it being a problem is if the new show asserts it's own culture, separate from the old Who, in which three years is considered a long time for a Doctor. It's pretty unlikely though.

And it's shows like Dr Who that are perfectly equipped to break it's own rules. To be honest, it's even generally expected.

[masamune1]

I noticed that the 10th Doctor lived a pretty short life. The 9th Doctor said he was about 900 years old; Tennant said he was 906 when he died. But the 2nd Doctor was in his 400's. Poor guy- no wonder he was so upset.

[T.D.A]

david tennant will come back in a special or something.

[Kilowog]

not for a few years though

[Wintrale]

david tennant will come back in a special or something.

They always do... It'll be fun seeing him again, but it's not just him that I'll miss. It's everyone he met, everything he did. When the Master returns, he most likely won't be John Simm any more. John Barrowman might have Torchwood, but he's not guaranteed to meet Eleven. Donna, Martha and Rose are all gone for good...

I'm looking forward to the new Doctor, but I do have the same fear a lot of others have - his age. I don't mean to patronise the guy since he's much older than me and everything, but I'm used to older, more experienced, actors playing the role. Regardless, I'm looking forward to Easter eagerly. I've loved Doctor Who since it first started to air again.

[Catterix]

I noticed that the 10th Doctor lived a pretty short life. The 9th Doctor said he was about 900 years old; Tennant said he was 906 when he died. But the 2nd Doctor was in his 400's. Poor guy- no wonder he was so upset.

It's implied that the 9th Doctor lived the shortest life. Supposedly, the 2005 series began very, very soon after the Doctor's regeneration; he didn't know what he looked like, etc. The 9th Doctor spent around 6-9 months travelling with Rose before the battle at Satelite 5.

So I can imagine, on a serious geeky-note, that the 10th's fear of dying is connected to this as well.

From what I remember, the 3 longest living Doctors were 1st (lived to his late 300s I believe), 4th and 7th. But this was from a snippet conversation at an expo years ago.

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

Mikey Smith is returning .:P

Did Rassilon said 1 billion years of Time Lords civilisation?:argh
I thought I thought it was 10 million years(" that's what it takes to be REALLY CORRUPT"?:S

Fuck,13 episodes of 45 minutes is too short(compare that with 26-28 episodes seasons of +-25 minutes).:sun

Make it 25 episodes,cut in half(13/12) or cut 13 episodes in 2 half with cliffhangers.:ho

Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/nl) has a lot of full episodes of the original series.I watched Remembrance of The Daleks,The deadly assassin,Trial of the Timelord,Castravalva and The The three Doctors.:edu

[T.D.A]

david tennant when he first started looked quite young and ppl were saying he wouldn't be good, matt smith will grow into his character, and ppl will learn to love him.

[Catterix]

Exactly. Though, I am curious. Critics already like Matt Smith, whereas Critics were the ones curious about David Tennant.

90% of the girls who liked Doctor Who, fancied David Tennant, and some are being really horrible towards Matt Smith's appearance in response. So I think Doctor Who may have lost the sex appeal it once had with DT.

[Kilowog]

rewatched Children of Earth. god damn was RTD intentionally making the first 2 seasons of Torchwood suck ass just so he could drop this bombshell on us? it's very hard to believe its the same show.

also kudos on RTD for coming up with a genuinely disturbing and heartbreaking alien threat

[The Cheat]

Isn't the doctor's real age inconsistent. From what I remember, the 7th doctor said he was 953 years. I even heard of a novel where the doctor celebrated his 1000th birthday.

I llok it up, the oldest the doctor has ever said he was 1012.

[Serena_Ahnell]

The Doctor's regeneration scene wasn't as powerful as I thought it would be. The last 20 min. were kind of meh, but everything else was great.

"I'm still not ginger!" :-(

What is kind of amazing is the last twenty minutes- With the Doctor freeing Wilfred, visiting folks, and then his last speech before he regenerated are burned into my mind. I was out and out bawling throught the last twenty minutes and often wiping my cheeks through out the last two episodes. I'm just way emotionally attached to characters in movies, series, books, etc.

I really think these bittersweet moments/events define the series for me. I think that is why I watch.

[Let's face it, I cried when Snape killed Dumbledore in the book. :(]

Matt Smith is gonna take some time to grow on me, but that's how I was with Tennant at first.

[Kilowog]

I need a gif of The Master violently eating the fuck out of that chicken please

[Blue_Panter_Ninja]

ubuntu-spotted-on-doctor-who-set (http://popey.com/blog/2010/01/02/ubuntu-spotted-on-doctor-who-set/).
:ho

[Catterix]

I had to look it up to find out what the hell "ubuntu" even was or why this is remotely interesting lol

Has anyone heard about the fuss made in regards to the Ginger comment? For some stupid fucking reason, retards have taken the Doctor being disappointed about not being ginger, as the creators of the show being anti-ginger!

The BBC have had to release an official statement in regards to this.

We would like to reassure viewers that Doctor Who doesn't have an anti ginger agenda whatsoever. This was a reprise of the line in the Christmas Invasion episode in 2005, when David Tennant discovers that he's not ginger, and here he is, missing out again - disappointed he's still not ginger.

In addition, the Doctor's previous companion Donna Noble (Catherine Tate) and his new one Amy Pond (Karen Gillan) are both redheads.

[Tyrael]

Anti-ginger? Come on, that's just funny. :lmao

The BBC's official statement shouldn't have said anything more than just: :wha

[Para]

I had to look it up to find out what the hell "ubuntu" even was or why this is remotely interesting lol

Has anyone heard about the fuss made in regards to the Ginger comment? For some stupid fucking reason, retards have taken the Doctor being disappointed about not being ginger, as the creators of the show being anti-ginger!

The BBC have had to release an official statement in regards to this.

Oh for fuck's sake :notrust

They'll probably make the next doctor ginger just to overcompensate...

[Catterix]

lol It really is just so stupid. People like that completely boggle the mind. Like those who say that Ianto dying in Torchwood was homophobia on the writers' part. Even though Russell T Davies is a gay activist and Torchwood is possibly the gayest show on TV.

They're just ridiculous and have a habit of ruining a good show.

I like the new images that've been released with Matt Smith as the Doctor.

[Vaz]

I had to look it up to find out what the hell "ubuntu" even was or why this is remotely interesting lolSame :lmao

Major lol @ the ginger comment, seriously, "ANTI-GINGER AGENDA" just sounds retarded. And those fags clearly have seen Amy Pond yet :love

[T.D.A]

its just stupid parents who probably didn't watch the episode earlier.

[Catterix]

lol Indeed. I just watched the scene and I can imagine that some people could take the scene the wrong way, Smith isn't obviously disappointed, he just looks at his hair and goes; "Still not Ginger!". Knowing the context of the line can make it obvious, but if you didn't know, you could take it to him being happy about that fact. But that doesn't mean they have an anti-ginger agenda. What balls :P

Filming's started up again after the Christmas break. I believe they're doing Richard Curtis' episode now. They were filming in Cardiff, but set in Paris somehow lol It's the Vincent Van Gogh episode. There's pictures here; http://gallifreynewsbase.blogspot.com/

[Wintrale]

Oh for fuck's sake :notrust

They'll probably make the next doctor ginger just to overcompensate...

With all the complaints... The 12th Doctor will be a black, female redhead. :lmao

[Vault]

Next Doctor will be black guaranteed, alot of people bitched.

[Catterix]

With all the complaints... The 12th Doctor will be a black, female redhead. :lmao

In a wheelchair :laugh

Next Doctor will be black guaranteed, alot of people bitched.

Not as much as a lot of people who defended the BBC. To be honest, the BBC would be in equal trouble if they did choose a black Doctor purely because people would say they did it as a response to the negative backlash with what happened last time.

[Tyrael]

Richard Curtis is writing an episode? That should be interesting.

Also, I have no idea why people are talking about the next Doctor already. Matt Smith has yet to have even debuted save for a half a minute or so at the end of the last episode.

[Catterix]

People talked about Tennant when he first appeared. With just the one line; "New teeth, that's weird?" he set a country into discussion over what he was going to be like.

Or do you mean us talking about the Doctor after Smith? :laugh

[Tyrael]

Or do you mean us talking about the Doctor after Smith? :laugh

Bingo. I mean, it's not bad or anything, but it definitely feels premature speculating at this stage.

But yeah, I'm reserving judgement on Smith at the moment. The way I see it, so long as he doesn't try and emulate Tennant, he should be fine.

[Catterix]

lol Truetrue.

It was more a discussion of what happened when Smith was first announced more than anything. The negative backlash they got by not choosing a black Doctor was horrendous and bloody stupid. Also, rather ignorant too, and a bit racist in itself, given the focus seemed to be solely on the Doctor not being black, rather than him not being asian, or another ethnicity.

It was so ridiculous that to this day I still feel annoyed about it lol