Gundam 00 S2: Episode 12 "Waiting in space" (宇宙で待ってる) Live/Raw/Sub discussion

[Blaze of Glory]

Last time on Gundam 00 *plays The Wire recap music*

- Hallelujah's reappearance only last a few minutes as does Marie's Quantum Brainwave functions and Tieria's super LONG girly hair because of 00 TRANS-AM system particles

- The A-laws new orbital weapon Memento Mori destroys the Sairu Kingdom and nearly annihilates Sergei

- Wang Lui-Mei is calm and a slight bit horrified by the orbital weapons destructive capabilities while Nena irritated by her lack of loyalty to Celestial Being silently criticizes her for being with the Innovators


- Anew Returner decides to stay with the ptolemy crew and Lockon forms a friendly relationship with her

- Tieria finally tells everyone about the Innovators

- The Innovator Revive Revival helps the A-laws find the location of Celestial Being's hideout and him/her Bring Stabity along with the A-laws attack Celestial Being

- Saji-sissy finally grows some balls and decides to take part in combat piloting the O-Raiser and combines with Gundam 00 activating it's TRANS-AM system take out A-laws Barrack

- Saji and Louise in TRANS-AM system see that they're both on opposite sides of the war.

-Gundam 00 is about to kick some ass NO MERCY :pek

LIVESTREAM

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Enjoy the episode :LOS

[Nightfall]

Time to bring back angsty Saji for a awhile:zaru

Should be an action packed episode at least in the start I think, can't wait to learn more about the strange thing happening with Gundam 00. I wonder if being exposed to the GN-particles has some sort of negative sideeffect on the health of humans/innovator/supersoldier.

Isn't it boring to watch the livestream before the subs though?:P

[Graham Aker]

I wonder if being exposed to the GN-particles has some sort of negative sideeffect on the health of humans/innovator/supersoldier.
Negative? No. It does affect your brainwaves though.

More importantly, GN particles don't have any negative effects on humans anyway. GN [T] particles on the other hand. Well, you saw what happened to Louise. Cell damage and possibly the reason why her head's gone a bit awry.


Anyway, can't wait for Garazzo vs. 00 Raizer.

[reaperunique]

00 0wnge NOW :yell

[RAGING BONER]

is it an unwise decision on my part to expect awesome Gundamu 00 Raisa action?


or will bitchy Manekin call a retreat after 00 blows up a single fodder suit?

[reaperunique]

it isn't unwise
and she will call retreat after 2 fodder :zaru

[RAGING BONER]

but how will 00 change the world if the people he's supposed to kill keep running away? :uwah

[qks]

i fully expect to 00 do fuck some shit up

somethings gotta shit ribbons up


if im in england what time will the stream be be showing?

[Biolink]

8:00 AM London Time

What do you guys use to stream

[Blaze of Glory]

I usually use Freshverse and Keyhole TV

[Biolink]

Was freshverse playing Gundam last week?

One week, I missed it because it wasn't playing, and was pretty upset. Had to take a nap and wait the 6 or so hours for the raw to come up

[Aeon]

^Yeah, I watched it on Freshverse last week.

[Blaze of Glory]

^

Yeah they did show 00 on Freshverse

[blah604]

do all the links work? if not, don't post them

[Biolink]

The links work.

Just expect them to be hella laggy from all of the Anime weaboos crowding on to the links.

[blah604]

The links work.

Just expect them to be hella laggy from all of the Anime weaboos crowding on to the links.

no last week, all the link pop up on my media player w/ the error thing =/

but freshverse is good? and why is freshverse showing, other anime, i thought i only shows tbs O_O

[Moon Light]

Power Puff Girls is showing on Freshverse right now :laugh catch raw later :P

[Blaze of Glory]

HOLY SHIT!

SETSUNA DEFEATED AN INNOVATOR! :laugh

:dance :dance

:wtf

[Aeon]

Man, I guess freshverse won't be showing it this week...

Saji's losing it... :xzaru

[blah604]

he beat both, haha lol ppl asking wheres gundam on freshverse :P

[DeathGuise_of_Oblivion]

Dear god that fight scene was made of pure epic fucking win. The afterimage.....my god it made every possibly gay or worthless scene in this series completely and totally worth it. Innovators can eat my shit, 00Gundam is filled with win all around.

[Aeon]

I don't even want to continue watching on this crappy stream...

[Zethisis]

Dude, this episode is WIN....

[blah604]

poor saji, can't decide

[Aeon]

Damn it, I missed parts of the ending...

[Zethisis]

I think Louise made her decision...

[Aeon]

Oh well, I'll just wait for the subs to watch the episode completely...

[Blaze of Glory]

Geezus Christ Saji will you shut the fuck up? :C

[Aeon]

He's grieving, leave him alone. :xzaru

[blah604]

Low quality pics (http://blah604.wordpress.com/2008/12/21/gundam-00-s2-ep-12/#more-111)

[Moon Light]

Raw (http://tracker.doctorx.eu/torrents/[HorribleRaws]_Gundam_00_Second_Season_-_12_(640x360).wmv.torrent) Cant believe setsuna killed both innovators :laugh

[Biolink]

Raw (http://tracker.doctorx.eu/torrents/[HorribleRaws]_Gundam_00_Second_Season_-_12_(640x360).wmv.torrent) Cant believe setsuna killed both innovators :laugh

He didn't.

Both of the Suits are equipped with Escape Pods(Which the Innovators happily used).

[Rukia]

I think the biggest failing aspect of this episode was that Setsuna didn't kill either Innovator. His trump card has been revealed and neither Innovator is dead. It's a shame. I think the writer's screwed this one up. I don't respect their decision.

Wang Liu Mei got slapped. That part was strangely satisfying.

I don't understand why Louise wouldn't want to have a long blown out talk with Saji. Louise lost her arm and family because of Celestial Being (from her perspective) and Saji's sister was also killed. Louise should be stunned that he's siding with them and she should want answers. Both Andrei and her are worthless characters. I hope they die soon.

[Evangel]

I think 00 beats strike freedom in sheer power and awesomeness:gar.
I thought it was a good battle though.

[Sander RX]

I think the biggest failing aspect of this episode was that Setsuna didn't kill either Innovator. His trump card has been revealed and neither Innovator is dead. It's a shame. I think the writer's screwed this one up. I don't respect their decision.
And what would the point of their death?It isnt like Ribbons needs them to tell him anything to know about 00 Raiser's Haxx-Am.He was watching the damn event real-time.

[Graham Aker]

00 Raiser is pretty hax. I couldn't quite make it out but was it making bunshins, for lack of a better term, of itself using GN particles?

Lawl, it's a pretty insane mobile suit.

[Aeon]

GN Bunshin no Jutsu? :lmao

[Heero]

lol afterimages in my gundam?

[Legend]

Gn Kage Bunshins very epic:thumbs

[Altron]

lol wow, compared to Code Geass R2, it seems no one really cares about seeing the raw live for Gundam 00 S2 :zaru

[Blaze of Glory]

I,ll tell y'all this

Wang Lui Mei being slapped was prob the best part of the episode :laugh

[Rukia]

And what would the point of their death?It isnt like Ribbons needs them to tell him anything to know about 00 Raiser's Haxx-Am.He was watching the damn event real-time.What's the point of keeping them alive? There are several other Innovators. There is nothing special about either of them. This show needs more death and this was an opportunity missed. The Episode preview seems to show Setsuna slicing the red haired Innovator's suit in half...so maybe they will fix their mistake in the next episode?

Altron, I don't like this show as much as I liked Code Geass. That's why I'm not as active. (This is also a bad anime season though. I'm ready for Full Metal Alchemist 2.)

[Aeon]

lol wow, compared to Code Geass R2, it seems no one really cares about seeing the raw live for Gundam 00 S2 :zaru

Yup, the season started off somewhat more active but now hardly anyone is here to watch the raw...

[reaperunique]

nothing can come close the CG :LOS

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[Blaze of Glory]

^

Pfft

CG is overrated

[Kira Yamato]

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[sveni]

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[IchiTenshou]

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[Aeon]

Finally I can see the episode fully after that annoying raw stream...

[Kira Yamato]

I was going to be so pissed if Saji actually went through with taking O Raiser :facepalm

And Gundam 00 Raiser Quantization in the midst of battle sure was impressive. Impressive enough to get Ribbons attention and lay a smack on Mei :hehee

[Shadow_Reaver]

Well... The entire episode can be summarized in just one phrase.

H4X0R suit is H4X0R.

p.s. CG is not overrated, just not everyone's cup of tea

[Blaze of Glory]

^

Yes it is

Also CG had hax mechs too

Don't try and place it above Gundam 00

In comparison to second seasons they're quite equal both started slow

Gathering companions

and wrap up loose ends the difference being 00 doing it much more efficently.

They're both just as equal.

However, this thread is not about CG

__

Anyways FINALLY THE SUB IS up :laugh

[reaperunique]

been out for three hours now :LOS.....slowpoke

anyhow, H4x 00 is superb love the whole "quantization" thing as Ribbons said it :awesome

[The Drunken Monkey]

Lol, maybe 00 is now haxxed with it's new upgrades + Trans-Am.

Getting hit but dodging it behind leaving a trace of particles. That's something I'd expect in.... wait, nvmd. Mechs these days. =D

[Tempest]

Wow and to think they`d take the path of having Setsuna better himself as a pilot, rather than to power up his already hacked out Gundam...

I miss the days when the pilot eventually became too skillful for the suit, thus forcing a new and improved one. This fucking "upgrade the suit to make up for the lack of skill" bullshit is pissing me off.

[Blaze of Glory]

So you're displeased by mech pilots in today's mecha anime?

[Rukia]

Wang Liu Mei being slapped was cool. But let's face it...it would have been cooler if she had been slapped by someone other than Ribbons. All she really did was pull a "Ribbons". Ribbons is usually aware of things that no one else is. It's an annoying little habit of his. Wang Liu Mei hid the info on the 00 from him. He got a taste of his own medicine. I wish Wang Liu Mei's brother had been around to pepper Ribbons with kunai. That would have been fair play. :zaru

[superman_1]

this episode was epic...the fights were amazing but shame though that none of two innovators died... 00 raizer pure epic win...it was awesome.... wang liu me getting slapped was another fav. part in there after the 00 raizer epic pwnage......and finally saji and louise stuff...hope they finish this biz quick... i would have been pissed if saji took off with the 00 raizer... more action next week...should be another awesome episode...

[ChocolateBar999]

p.s. CG is not overrated, just not everyone's cup of tea
Uh...yes it is, at least Gundam 00 doesn't have a stupid plot twist every damn episode or have character acting completely idiotic for the sake of the damn plot or waste time with bullshit. But now a days fans don't care when it comes to plot and development and just want to watch 23 and a half minutes of mindless dribble :zaru

Alright that's enough of that the episode itself was pretty good but for the love of god Saji ENOUGH is ENOUGH. Next week is the half way mark of the season, can't wait.

[Unbreakable]

Wow and to think they`d take the path of having Setsuna better himself as a pilot, rather than to power up his already hacked out Gundam...

I miss the days when the pilot eventually became too skillful for the suit, thus forcing a new and improved one. This fucking "upgrade the suit to make up for the lack of skill" bullshit is pissing me off.

IDK, I actually like that part of the show. Makes the characters seem more human(unlike the almighty Lord Kira from that other series).

[Altron]

gah Saji is really pissing me off to no end now.

[Kraker2k]

What was that Lyle?

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2708/snapshot20081222023538wp2.jpg

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http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2961/snapshot20081222025508ib3.jpg


:zaru

[The Drunken Monkey]

lol, Saji is wasting good time in the past couple of episodes.

But I get the part with what you mean by the pilot needs to improve, not the suit. I prefer if that happened as well.
But I can make do with 00 get haxxed even more. It's still far from being godlike like Strike Freedom + Meteor <--- That's going toooo far.

[RAGING BONER]

Saji's the kind of guy you just want to kick in the nuts really really hard so that they go inside his body were they really should be

[Blaze of Glory]

^

LOL

If only everyone on the Ptolemy would stop treating Saji like such a goddamn civillian

[son_michael]

Louise is such an idiot:facepalmdoes becoming obsessed with revenge make you completley retarted?

[Shadow_Reaver]

Sunrise is giving Louise the Yandere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandere) treatment. Acts nice and all on the outside but is psychotic on the inside. We will just have to wait and see if it'll stay that way when the series is over.

[Hell On Earth]

Sajii is a bigger bitch than Kira and that's saying a lot. I'm tired of these male homotional characters with their feelings. It's funny how he thinks Louise acting like a oblivious snob and treating him like a servant is good memories. That incident made her come out of her little bubble to realize that shit ain't always peachy.

[staradderdragoon]

wow...the a-laws mechs have that stupid cockpit eject thingy like from CG....good job...

[Clegger]

I don't understand why Louise wouldn't want to have a long blown out talk with Saji. Louise lost her arm and family because of Celestial Being (from her perspective) and Saji's sister was also killed. Louise should be stunned that he's siding with them and she should want answers. Both Andrei and her are worthless characters. I hope they die soon.

She doesn't want to have the talk because she doesn't want to admit she's wrong. She's been holding on to this hatred and need for revenge for four years that it's easier to think Saji is a bad guy then admit she might be wrong and the last few years have meant nothing.

And there have been alot of "worthless" characters up to this point so far this season. Not just Andrei and Louise. And I think it's a little too early to give up on Andrei. Most of his character growth, if he gets any, will be with his interaction with Sergei and beyond. I don't know if the thing between him and Louise actually has a reason to it or if it's just there to give them something to do before their main plot(Saji/Sergei) is a go.

[IchiTenshou]

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[neodragzero]

That was a sweet episode. I really don't have to explain how awesome the Gundam 00-Raiser was.:del

I was close to punching the screen when Saiji's whiny self was about to do one of the dumbest, most annoying things that could happen in this season. At least his memory actually works and stuff. A bit of common sense being rammed up his ass with the memory of what damage he's done puts him well above his bimbo blonde gal pal.

I'm still waiting for Louise to find out she has been working for and even giving LOTS OF MONEY to the very people that had her family killed with that money used to kill even more people out the whazoo. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up a drooling basketcase.

[Donkey Show]

lol afterimages in my gundam?

http://mahq.net/mecha/gundam/f91/f91.jpg

F91 would like to have a word with you. :zaru

But is it so much afterimages as it is freaking teleportation? Even Setsuna had no idea what he was doing at that point.

[NaraShikamaru]

New episode was sweet. Also, was that a fucking cockpit GUNDAM video game?!

I can tell this whole thing with Saji and Louise is going to piss me off until she realises that she's blaming the wrong people and is on the wrong side. I just hope she realises sooner rather than later.

[Graham Aker]

But I can make do with 00 get haxxed even more. It's still far from being godlike like Strike Freedom + Meteor <--- That's going toooo far.
In terms of the amount of beams and ammunition maybe, in that regard, the SF with Meteor is superior. :laugh

does becoming obsessed with revenge make you completley retarted?
If you were exposed to negative GN [T] particles, possibly.

wow...the a-laws mechs have that stupid cockpit eject thingy like from CG....good job...
No they don't.

If you're talking about the ones for the Gadessa and Garazzo, then you're also wrong. Those things can fly, as clearly shown, unlike the ejection pods of the KMF's which only ejects you away from your unit.

But is it so much afterimages as it is freaking teleportation? Even Setsuna had no idea what he was doing at that point.
Sort of teleportation. From what I saw, it turned itself into GN Particles then reformed back.

[neodragzero]

And we do have the head innovator describe it as quantization....

I could watch the gif in my sig for hours...

[p0ltergeist]

Now the 00 is a logia? That's territory I wasn't expecting its broken-ness to head into.

[Blaze of Glory]

Anyone mind making a gif of Ribbons slapping Wang Liu Mei? :wtf

Taht was the best scene in this episode :ohpek

[Biolink]

Sajii is a bigger bitch than Kira and that's saying a lot. I'm tired of these male homotional characters with their feelings. It's funny how he thinks Louise acting like a oblivious snob and treating him like a servant is good memories. That incident made her come out of her little bubble to realize that shit ain't always peachy.

That may be, but at least we don't have to put up with Saji bitching for 23 minutes an Episode like we did with Mr. Kira Yamato.


But I get the part with what you mean by the pilot needs to improve, not the suit. I prefer if that happened as well.
But I can make do with 00 get haxxed even more. It's still far from being godlike like Strike Freedom + Meteor <--- That's going toooo far.

Weapon load out yes it has formidable power, but overall hardly anything special or notable. As big and clunky as it is(It still maintains some speed, but not even close compared to 00Raiser), it would be ripped to shreds by 00Raisers speed(And let's not forget the entire "Read people's mind ability").

It takes more than just a heavy weapon load out, to be considered a god status Mobile Suit, which is why you primarily only ever hear about Turn-A, Turn-X(Moonlight butterfly), and Wing Zero(Zero System, Twin Buster Rifle), and perhaps V2 in that category

[neodragzero]

Anyone mind making a gif of Ribbons slapping Wang Liu Mei? :wtf

Taht was the best scene in this episode :ohpek

And a gif of Ribbons staring down at her along with her cowering in fear would make for a wonderful gif. I can so see someone dubbing in Dave Chappelle Rick James for that scene.:del

Thanks to animeblogger for creating a wonderful gif that brings joy to my life.:amuse

[Tempest]

IDK, I actually like that part of the show. Makes the characters seem more human(unlike the almighty Lord Kira from that other series).

Although I can see your point here, but a part of being human is growing and improving. I`m not trying to say make Setsuna a godly pilot with amazing reflexes and an unrivaled tactical ability but Jesus Christ, he`s a bad pilot who needs to seriously brush up on his skills before moving up onto better Gundams or something.

lol, Saji is wasting good time in the past couple of episodes.

But I get the part with what you mean by the pilot needs to improve, not the suit. I prefer if that happened as well.
But I can make do with 00 get haxxed even more. It's still far from being godlike like Strike Freedom + Meteor <--- That's going toooo far.

I mean I don`t really like seeing godlike Gundams/Pilots single-handedly taking out the enemy in one go but is it too much to ask for a damn good Gundam Meister, let alone the main character as a damn good pilot? Hal was leetskeet but for some reason his reappearance was as quick as his second disappearance. Lyle is a sub-par Neil and Tieria`s superior Gundam piloting skills seemed to have taken a huge fall to me for some reason.

All I`m trying to ask is; is it too hard to have Setsuna become a better pilot before moving onto empowering him with the 00 Raiser? It`s just saddening to see Setsuna become more dependent on the power of his machine than his own abilities.

[qks]

god somebody shoot saji please

n give the o raiser to haro

was nice to see wang get slaped (backhand aswell ,nice ribbons)


00 raiser in trans-am is in the strike freedom/wing zero class imo

n lastly lyle actually hit something in this ep

[Canute87]

THAT FUCKING CROSSROAD.

I'm use to useless people being in the series. But don't put them on the fucking battlefield.

Smackdown was epic.

[Golbez]

Oh bugger. "Saji was in CB back then too!", seriously, someone knock some sense into that head of hers.

And finally that Wang got what she deserved. :pek

[Donkey Show]

New episode was sweet. Also, was that a fucking cockpit GUNDAM video game?!


That game rules hard. There are always huge lines for the game in Akihabara.

[Jetstorm]

Fucking Saji. God I wish he would just become a casualty so I don't have to hear his bitching and whining anymore. The way Louise was treating him in the first half was their good times? Get a fucking spine already chump.

As for Gundam 00 with the 0-Raiser....fucking hax. Taking down 2 innovators with little problems and pulling off that after image/teleportation or whatever it was was fucking epic.

Also Wang getting smacked by Ribbons felt so good. :pleased

[Jesus Date]

For fucks sake, someone has to give that selfish bastard Saji a beating. And they seriously need to stop calling the full names...Saji Crossroad

[Sander RX]

It's still far from being godlike like Strike Freedom + Meteor
1)It took two godlike METEORs to down a single Calamity Gundam(Kira distracting,Athrun attacking).
2)Athrun didnt even manage to scratch Rider with his godlike METEOR.
3)Rau beat the shit out of the godlike METEOR without getting a scratch.
4)Before engaging Destiny & Legend,SF and IJ discarded their godlike METEORs because the knew how good those godlike METEORs were against non-grunts in close proximity encounters.

[Nayrael]

Oh bugger. "Saji was in CB back then too!", seriously, someone knock some sense into that head of hers.

I don't see why people complain about this. While there are no proofs that Saji was a member of CB back then, there are also no proofs that he wasn't. Also, Louise was always confused of why Saji treated a guy like Setsuna as a friend and now that she knows that Setsuna is a member of CB and Saji was with him later, this might look like an explanation to her.

For fucks sake, someone has to give that selfish bastard Saji a beating. And they seriously need to stop calling the full names...Saji Crossroad

For many people saying just a name is reserved for friends. And Saji ain't a friend to any of them. He is just an uncertain comrade.

[son_michael]

I don't see why people complain about this. While there are no proofs that Saji was a member of CB back then, there are also no proofs that he wasn't. Also, Louise was always confused of why Saji treated a guy like Setsuna as a friend and now that she knows that Setsuna is a member of CB and Saji was with him later, this might look like an explanation to her.


she was going to marry him.....for crying out loud you give a person like that the benefit of the doubt before you assume based on NO EVIDENCE that they were plotting against you all along:notrust

[The Second Derivative]

Saji is a nice guy, unfortunately nice guy's really do finish last in Gundam.


I expect the 00 Raiser to be captured next episode due to Saji/Louise antics.

[qks]

they sud just strap the o raiser to the 00 n keep saji in a safe plae with his teddy bare


hes a lilability

[MegamanXZero]

For fucks sake, someone has to give that selfish bastard Saji a beating. And they seriously need to stop calling the full names...Saji Crossroad

Saji Krossrodoh :LOS

[Jetstorm]

they sud just strap the o raiser to the 00 n keep saji in a safe plae with his teddy bare


hes a lilability

They shouldn't let the fucker anywhere near it to begin with. Either have the 00 Raiser already docked with 00 when launching or have Haro/someone not a little bitch fly it out to Setsuna.

[Logic]

What about that other dude who drove that Exia power up in Season 1. I don't know his name but he pilots and he's dieing.

[MegamanXZero]

What about that other dude who drove that Exia power up in Season 1. I don't know his name but he pilots and he's dieing.

Uhm, wasn't that Lasse ?
He's piloting the Ptolemy II now so...

[Lord Darkwolf]

Oh rudy's sake give the guy a fucking break . The guy EARNED his bitching . Life has been stomping on him hard since episode 18 of last season ....and every time he gets up and tries cheer up a bit it comes back and stomps on him harder . At least he keeps his bitchfests brief and and actually LEARNS from his mistakes . I've seen WAY worse than him .

He's been showing hints of coming around ...last episode was big step now if only his luck would stop screwing him over for five bloody minutes.

[qks]

Uhm, wasn't that Lasse ?
He's piloting the Ptolemy II now so...

hes the gunner anew is the current pilot , but he appears to be dying being in the 0 raiser would probally kill him

[Kraker2k]

Saji Krossrodoh :LOS

There's something scary about how Setsuna just says his name and nothing else.

[Nightfall]

Interesting episode, was expecting Saji to go angsty mode when he met Louise again so it doesn't really bother me that much. A bit annoying that she automatically thinks he's been a member of Cb all along... Just an excuse to create more drama, instead of having her think calmly through the situation. Then again her life has been pretty fucked up ever since her family died, so it's understandable... Not really the most stable mind at the moment I guess.

The sentence at the end ''This is how the A-laws.... no.. Innovators do things'' Seriously STOP FUCKING USING THAT SENTENCE. Or some heads will roll out of Sunrise's HQ next sunday:sun

[Hidd3N_NiN]

I don't see why people complain about this. While there are no proofs that Saji was a member of CB back then, there are also no proofs that he wasn't. Also, Louise was always confused of why Saji treated a guy like Setsuna as a friend and now that she knows that Setsuna is a member of CB and Saji was with him later, this might look like an explanation to her.


Except Saji's sister was murdered for investigating Celestial Being and Saji was greatly affected by it. Louise would have to be extremely selfish and insane if she still thought that Saji was in CB due to that event.

Anyway, Saji really needs to stop crying already. Its getting so annoying. :mad

[Hell On Earth]

Setsuna needs a powerful mobile suit if he wants to destroy A Laws and bring the world to peace.

[arunachala_1008]

maaan! that was the funniest episode yet! wang got bitch slapped. Check. Louise was laughing to herself like a lunatic. Double check. boy, i thought that was hilarious.

and saji and louise should both die, i don't care how, they've had it coming since the first season. i don't care how rough they've had it, cuz the series has already explained that all of the gundam meister and ptolemy crew has had a rough past... but ya, saji tried to escape with the 00 raiser, the most powerful part of of the 00 gundam, they should just throw saji out to space and die in the vacuum for that one.

finally, i think the 00 gundam is a tad overpowered but hey, up to that point, the innovators had everything going for them, so i think it balances out, and im really curious about the new powers of the 00 gundam like the quantification disappearing and hearing the voices and thoughts of other pilots

[Red Zaku]

Except Saji's sister was murdered for investigating Celestial Being

No one actually knows that least of all Louise who was out of the picture before Kinue got pwn'd by Ali.

[neodragzero]

:apathy
Yeah...It's not like his sister was a news reporter with news staff, anyone she bugged that wasn't a bloodthirsty mercenary, etc. knew what she was investigating. It's not like the untimely murder of news reporters get reported as news or even have an obituary...Much less at least make the attempt to call the guy at least ONCE. If she didn't even bother keep even lazily keep track of what has been gong in Saiji's life at the time...

Louise not knowing about it actually works against her rather than for her as giving sympathy for her goes. She loses out either way. Then again, what else do you expect from such a blonde haired bimbo loser anyway...

[Rob_Zero]

Louise was laughing to herself like a lunatic.

This happened when? I remember her hyperventilating while in shock and then taking those tranquiliser pills, though.

[Sander RX]

ith the 00 raiser,key to the most powerful part of the 00 gundam
Fixed for you.

[milhaus007]

This was the best episode so far this season. Watching Wang get bitchslapped was awesome. I had to watch that part at least 3 times because it was so dam funny. But seriously though, I'm getting sick of Saji's character, he's way too EMO for me to handle. We've already seen 12 episodes of him crying like a sissy and I don't want the last 14 episodes wasted on trash like him.


dear santa,

PLEASE KILL SAJI as my xmax gift. kkthxbyela~

[Red Zaku]

:apathy
Yeah...It's not like his sister was a news reporter with news staff, anyone she bugged that wasn't a bloodthirsty mercenary, etc. knew what she was investigating.

And yet that doesn't mean she was killed because of CB they found her stabbed dead in an allyway she could have been mugged for all anyone knew. Being killed just because you're investigating something doesn't mean you wewre killed because of what you were investigating...Not to mention, Louise was out of Saji's life by this point and she NEVER KNEW Kinue died let alone she was researching Celestial Being..... Hence no, you fail.

It's not like the untimely murder of news reporters get reported as news or even have an obituary...

>.> Don't you mean untimely death of a news reporter? There is no such thing as a timely murder of someone. And again, she was researching CB no one knew how far she got and she could just as easily been killed via mugging that went wrong.

Much less at least make the attempt to call the guy at least ONCE. If she didn't even bother keep even lazily keep track of what has been gong in Saiji's life at the time...


How does Kinue keeping track of things going on with Saji equate to Louise knowing what Kinue was looking into or that Kinue died? Considering her body is found a full episode after Louise and Saji have their break up......

Louise not knowing about it actually works against her rather than for her

......................How? It happened after her and Saji stopped talking because she was incredibly depressed about the death of her family and recently becoming crippled.

as giving sympathy for her goes. She loses out either way. Then again, what else do you expect from such a blonde haired bimbo loser anyway...

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[neodragzero]

And yet that doesn't mean she was killed because of CB they found her stabbed dead in an allyway she could have been mugged for all anyone knew. Being killed just because you're investigating something doesn't mean you wewre killed because of what you were investigating...Not to mention, Louise was out of Saji's life by this point and she NEVER KNEW Kinue died let alone she was researching Celestial Being..... Hence no, you fail.

It's obvious that Saiji and her co-workers don't think it's simply a matter of a mugging. Louise has more than enough time and money to find out that Saiji's sis got killed.

>.> Don't you mean untimely death of a news reporter? There is no such thing as a timely murder of someone. And again, she was researching CB no one knew how far she got and she could just as easily been killed via mugging that went wrong.

It's called sarcasm...Do you a need a smilie to make it more obvious for you? Your response here is a considerable lack of reading comprehension on your part. Seriously.

How does Kinue keeping track of things going on with Saji equate to Louise knowing what Kinue was looking into or that Kinue died? Considering her body is found a full episode after Louise and Saji have their break up......

:apathy
I was talking about Louise keeping track of what is going with Saji's life after they broke up.

......................How? It happened after her and Saji stopped talking because she was incredibly depressed about the death of her family and recently becoming crippled.

She's plenty rich enough to keep tabs while she had the entire time gap of the time skip to do so.

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Instead of keeping tabs on Saji's life and using her money for so many different positive options that would help others, she decides to fund a group like the A-Laws and to use violent means to fulfill her prototypical goal. She's another blonde character that makes the old joke stick.

[Red Zaku]

It's obvious that Saiji and her co-workers don't think it's simply a matter of a mugging.

Again, Saji doesn't even link it to CB. Why hell would Louise?

Louise has more than enough time and money to find out that Saiji's sis got killed.

Yes, because finding out about how Saji's sister died or that she even died when she was in Spain and the Murder was in Japan is certianly something she has time to do. Between re-habing, going through experiments that gave her Quantum brainwaves and a robotic limb, and joining and funding the A-Law's she has so much free time. >.> That is a joke right?

It's called sarcasm...

You mean that thing that doesn't go over well without something called intonation to let you know it's being used? This is a messageboard not a telephone conversation, your sarcasm fails miserably on the internet unless you include it your first post. Though lately it seems sarcasm is used more as an excuse for getting called out on saying something stupid then because it was originally intended.

Do you a need a smilie to make it more obvious for you?

Sarcasm is not obvious in text unless you're making a very obvious joke reference. Nothing about that seemed obivious, probably because it failed miserably at being sarcastic.

:apathy
I was talking about Louise keeping track of what is going with Saji's life after they broke up.

Yes because all ex's keep tabs on each other after breaking up....wait no.. that's just stalkers.

She's plenty rich enough to keep tabs while she had the entire time gap of the time skip to do so.

She BROKE UP WITH HIM! You want her to stalk him. What is wrong with you? Because this post leads me to believe you have a problem.

Instead of keeping tabs on Saji's life

Like a psychopathic stalker.

and using her money for so many different positive options that would help others,

Yes, because we all know anti-terrorist, special forces units never helped anyo...wait a minute....

she decides to fund a group like the A-Laws and to use violent means to fulfill her prototypical goal.

Prototypical? Since when did controling the world through curel and harsh military tactics while using propaganda to lie about it all become proto-typical and not just typical?

She's another blonde character that makes the old joke stick.

No, you just have no clue what a good character is. You apparently want her to be a stereotypical ex-girlfriend obssessed with the guy she broke up with to the point she stalks him because she pines for him so much. Instead of being strong and fairly independant.

[neodragzero]

Again, Saji doesn't even link it to CB. Why hell would Louise?
I'm pretty sure he did.

Yes, because finding out about how Saji's sister died or that she even died when she was in Spain and the Murder was in Japan is certianly something she has time to do. Between re-habing, going through experiments that gave her Quantum brainwaves and a robotic limb, and joining and funding the A-Law's she has so much free time. >.> That is a joke right?

She's ridiculously rich. She choose to do all those except for the clear exception of needing to do re-hab. Time isn't an issue.

You mean that thing that doesn't go over well without something called intonation to let you know it's being used? This is a messageboard not a telephone conversation, your sarcasm fails miserably on the internet unless you include it your first post. Though lately it seems sarcasm is used more as an excuse for getting called out on saying something stupid then because it was originally intended.

In other words, you couldn't notice obvious sarcasm. The statement was made with such an obvious show of it not being a literal statement. It's incredibly obvious you're just bad at sarcasm in this situation. There are multiple upon multiple situations of made post without a smilie that are obviously sarcasm. Just that you're one of the few individuals on the forum, at least as far as my experience mostly with OBD, that couldn't tell something so obvious. That's all.

Yeah...it's not like untimely news reporter deaths don't get reported as news or on an obituary.

If you take that statement literally, I would be contradicting the point I'm trying to make in general. To take it literally makes no sense whatsoever for my argument. It's obvious sarcasm. Deal with it.

Yes, because we all know anti-terrorist, special forces units never helped anyo...wait a minute....

Yeah..the simple action of using your money to help starving children is less positive than funding supposed anti-terrorist special forces even though whether or not they are actually true to their word on how they use your money is of course guaranteed to be true...So who needs to bother checking how they spend it exactly anyway. Yeah, you're making great sense. That's sarcasm if you haven't figured it out. Dry sarcasm but sarcasm none the less.

Prototypical? Since when did controling the world through curel and harsh military tactics while using propaganda to lie about it all become proto-typical and not just typical?

Besides the fact that such line of action isn't typical throughout all cultures, I was talking about the matter of Louise's goal of revenge. A goal that strangely is seen by emo after emo character as a goal that of course will work out but leaves them feeling screwed in the end anyway. Only the main character of Gun X Sword breaks the mold of course.

No, you just have no clue what a good character is. You apparently want her to be a stereotypical ex-girlfriend obssessed with the guy she broke up with to the point she stalks him because she pines for him so much. Instead of being strong and fairly independant.
Giving a guy a phone call isn't stalking. She isn't strong and independent when she simply does what she's told and gives away money without even bothering to keep tabs on whether or not it's actually THAT good of an idea. I like characters with more depth than blonde emo pilot that gives away her money to people that killed her family.

EDIT: I will for now only post responses in the other thread that we're pretty much having the same conversation within.

[Red Zaku]

I'm pretty sure he did.

He didn't. He doesn't even mention it when he confronts Setsuna only mentioning Louise and the Thrones incident.

She's ridiculously rich. She choose to do all those except for the clear exception of needing to do re-hab. Time isn't an issue.

................So recovering from complex medical proceedures isn't time consuming? Rehab isn't time consuming? Joining the military as a full time soldier isn't time consuming? Not stalking your ex because while you miss him you remain strong and set on the path you've chosen to live without him = bad? Go'tcha.

In other words, you couldn't notice obvious sarcasm.

In other words you sarcasm sucked harder then this failure you call a reply. -.- And that's hard. Because your reply sucks pretty badly.

The statement was made with such an obvious show of it not being a literal statement.

Considering you think Louise sucks because she didn't stalk Saji with her wealth of resources, nothing stupid that you type surprises me.

It's incredibly obvious you're just bad at sarcasm in this situation.

Yes, you can't have fault in your horrible dilvery set up, or having previous spouted ideas so innane that the one you call sarcasm clearly doesn't fit in line with everything else stupid you've blurted out.

There are multiple upon multiple situations of made post without a smilie that are obviously sarcasm.

Yes, I mentioned those. They didn't suck. Plus their authors hadn't gone on the record with such a horrible belief you wish it was sarcasm but the sad truth it was actually how they thought. You did.

Yeah...it's not like untimely news reporter deaths don't get reported as news or on an obituary.

In Japan.... too bad Louise is in SPAIN! She's well over ten time zones away, and two full continents. How many obituries from Japan did you read in your local paper today? I'm curious.

If you take that statement literally, I would be contradicting the point I'm trying to make in general.

What? The point that, Louise sucks because she didn't know about something after she stopped being involved in Saji's life and she didn't stalk him?

To take it literally makes no sense whatsoever for my argument. It's obvious sarcasm. Deal with it.

Your argument is Louise sucks because she didn't know about Kinue's death, doesn't know the cause though Saji himself didn't either. And thinks Saji is with CB but she should know better because she should have used her resources to stalk him. >.> And you wonder why your sarcasm get's taken seriously. It's because your legitamate point is an even bigger joke then your sarcasm.

Yeah..the simple action of using your money to help starving children is less positive than funding supposed anti-terrorist special forces[/qoute]

Giving money to save starving children doesn't stop terrorism. A bullet to the chest of a terrorist does.

[quote]even though whether or not they are actually true to their word on how they use your money is of course guaranteed to be true...

They are using their funds to annhilate terrorists. They've just being incredibly indescriminate about who is a terrorist.

So who needs to bother checking how they spend it exactly anyway.[/qoute]

>.> How would Louise have the financial records of her money after she gives it away? See when it stops being hers she can no longer keep track of it. Because she gave it away and it's not hers anymore. Unless you'd like to go on record as stating that you know what happened to every dollar you own AFTER you spent it.

[quote]Yeah, you're making great sense.

For someone condemning Louise because she didn't stalk Saji and didn't keep track of money that was no longer hers, I doubt common sense would sound as such to you.

That's sarcasm if you haven't figured it out. Dry sarcasm but sarcasm none the less.

No, it's horrible god awful sarcasm, that sounds legit because once again your actual point is so godawful it's impossible to take anything you say as a joke. Or rather everything you say is such a joke it's impossible to tell what's intentional from your actual belief.

Besides the fact that such line of action isn't typical throughout all cultures,

Every culture has a concept of revenge. The only thing different in each is the stance taken by that culture.

I was talking about the matter of Louise's goal of revenge. A goal that strangely is seen by emo after emo character

That's it. Now Newtype will post teaching you what in gods name Emo is because you don't know what that is either.

as a goal that of course will work out but leaves them feeling screwed in the end anyway.

>.> Based on? Char got revenge on the Zabi's he felt pretty damn good about it.

Giving a guy a phone call isn't stalking.

Using your finanicial resources to get his phone number to call him, and keep tabs on him and his family life is stalking. Hell just using her resources to get his cell is stalking.

She isn't strong and independent when she simply does what she's told

She's a soldier. She has to follow orders, and she didn't do as she was told all the time though. Did you miss the part where she went over her commanders head after she was told she couldn't use the Smultron? When she disobey'd orders and charged after the Ptolemy so she could try and get a kill on CB's ship? And now lately when she rebuked Andrei's son who tried to put the moves on her by calling her girlish by nearling crushing his wrist? That would be strong and independent.

[neodragzero]

EDIT: I will for now only post responses to further discussion in the other thread that we're pretty much having the same conversation within.

....:facepalm