Albus Dumbldore vs. Gandalf the White

[adwsax]

Who would win the head of Hogwarts or the Hobbit helper? I personaly think Dumbldore. But what do you think?

[EDhg]

I vote Albus Dumbledore :smile-big

[Chibi Chan]

I would have to say Dumbledore, he has a lot more magic

[I'm with Stupid]

But Gandalf took down a Balrog...a freakin' Balrog!

[The Wanderer]

Gandalf wins, he's more of a warrior type spellcaster

And he came back from death :p (Now if some of you pothead fans could cacth my drift :p . . .)

[GTOnizukadude]

Gandalf fought:
Nazgul (Nazgul>>>>Dementors)
A crapload of orcs (Orcs>>>Garden Gnomes)
A Balrog (Balrog>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Voldemort)

Yes, that was a lot of >s, but you get the point.
Plus, Gandalf is immortal. Every time you kill him, he gets brighter (color) and stronger.

[Cornuthaum]

Gandalf fought:
Nazgul (Nazgul>>>>Dementors)
A crapload of orcs (Orcs>>>Garden Gnomes)
A Balrog (Balrog>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Voldemort)

Yes, that was a lot of >s, but you get the point.
Plus, Gandalf is immortal. Every time you kill him, he gets brighter (color) and stronger.

I agree on the balrog. U-No-Poo seriously lacks the scary factor of a flaming demon.

Still, all Dumb-ledore had to do in a one on one was to simply A-K Gandalf - it's about one battle, not an overall war ... and simply A-K'ing Gandalf until he gets translucent, attains godhood and vanishes altogether would work too.

[Inuyashamish]

well considering that they r the same actor, id say gandalf would win.

[Sorano]

Magic VS Magic. I say Dumbledore.

[ShadowGal19]

I vote Gandalf because he came back from the dead.

[sayam]

yeah gandalf all the way yo!
he was once known as gandalf they grey but then died and came back as
gandalf they white.
he's a newer version of the grey one
a wiser, smarter, stronger, cooler, and smexier version
compete with that old dumbledore with glasses, gandalf doesn't even use glasses he uses his magic.

[Gunshin]

Gandolf of course, however, I think Arslan (from JR Tolkien's friend and rival CS Lewis novel) would eat both of them.

[martryn]

If it was Gandalf the Grey, then D would have an even money chance. He can't touch Gandalf the White. And Gandalf the Maia (or whatever) would fucking own his ass.

[Yami no Takeshi]

Gandalf would pwn ANY Harry Potter character's ass.
Voldemort? Pls, the Balrog makes him look like a playground bully at best.
Now if it was Arslan vs Gandalf, the i would have a problem making a chooice.

Cheers. :beer

[Inactive Kurosaki Ichigo]

Gandalf. Well, because...

Harry Potter 6 Spoilers
Dumbledore is dead

[AssFace]

lolz did you see the prank thing where it goes "SNAPE KILLED DUMBLEDOREEE"

then a girl goes, "NOOOO, You bitch"

[skmt999]

This is a silly poll. There is no third option.

"Dumbledore and Gandolf settle down for a cuppa and some lemondrops, like the civilized wizards they are."

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Dumbledore would win. He can apparate(Gandalf wouldn't be able to touch him), has wandless, wordless magic, and is extremely quick. Remember how quickly he was able to thwart Voldemort at the Department of Mysteries?

Gandalf is certainly not weak, but he lacks the speed and power of Dumbledore.

[Tsukiyomi]

I haven't really seen enough from Gandalf for me to put him above most wizards from the Harry Potter series.

A single Avada Kedavra and Gandalf's done, there are dozens of spells we've seen in HP that could take down Gandalf.

[ajackson17]

if i remember correctly that gandalf wasn't allowed from his order to use most of his powers. You have to remember that sauraman was able to cause a blizzard. These guys can control the natural world like it anything. They are far more powerful than any of harry potter wizards. If they could go all out they will own all the other wizards. I'm pretty sure they are on the same level of wizarding power with the Earthsea from the books, not the movie.

[Tsukiyomi]

With the HP wizards abilty to apparate instantly to any place they want to be, I fail to see how something like a storm would matter. All Dumbledore would have to do is apparate behind Gandalf and hit him with Avada Kedavra or one of the other unforgivable curses and its over.

Also the HP universe seems to have thousands upon thousands of protected charms, spells and items, I don't recall all that many items in the LOTR universe that protect against magic.

[Sabaku no Ira]

One thing to keep in mind, though: Dumbledore is human, Gandalf isn't.

If Dumbledore dies, he can't come back. If Gandalf dies but without finishing what he's supposed to do, he gets sent back.

I'll say Gandalf.

[Tsukiyomi]

One thing to keep in mind, though: Dumbledore is human, Gandalf isn't.

If Dumbledore dies, he can't come back. If Gandalf dies but without finishing what he's supposed to do, he gets sent back.

I'll say Gandalf.

I count dying as a defeat, even if you come back eventually. And even if Gandalf did come back I fail to see what he could do to Dumbledore. Dumbledore seems omniscient at times and no doubt has spells and charms for all occaisions.

Once again I say one 'Avada Kedavra' and Gandalf is gone, HP has one hit kill spells, LOTR doesn't.

[itachidattebayo]

Of course its gonna be Dumbledore......Dumbledore's power can take down a horde of Balrogs.......:D

[Luckey]

Gandalf
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[Lucifer]

I don't know much too about Harry Potter... but Gandalf pwned Balrog...
he is highest wizard... so Gandalf would win... powerful magic spells than Dumbledore

[Luckey]

Both of them are the highest wizards. I personally think dumbledore might know more, but Gandalf is physically stronger.

[konflikti]

Gandalf looks more bad-ass too. And technically he is the orginal(or at least lot nearer to the orginal whoever it might be).

I think the death spell(adava kedvadfarardda) is the only thing Gandalf needs to watch out for. HP wizards have the teleportation thingie which could prove problematic though.

I still say Gandalf though. Maybe I'm bit biased.

[Fenix]

The movies are aimed at different audiences, so i wouldn't try to judge them by physical appearance.

If you read the books however....well it's hard to say just what EXCATLY the writers intended their characters to look like.

Btw I voted for Dumbledore lol, cause I never finished those LOTR books =\

[ydraliskos]

Gandalf is an immortal GOD of middle earth, but nerfed. He is technically the same species as Sauron....

[Amatsu]

I think it goes like this

Dumbledore > Gandalf at the beginning of Fellowship of the Ring

Gandalf during Twin Towers and Return of the King > Dumbledore

[The Wanderer]

Gandalf survived the Balrog fight, and well those who read the last Harry Pothead book can tell me how durable Dumbledore is :amuse

[organizedcrime]

Gandalf never showed any of that crazy magic with exploding houses, but damn, he tore up that Balrog and scared off the Naz'Gul (accent or no?).

[Amatsu]

Gandalf survived the Balrog fight, and well those who read the last Harry Pothead book can tell me how durable Dumbledore is :amuse

Oh come on that's not even fair. Dumbledore was at a freakin' disadvantage in book six. Gandalf was NEVER at any such disadvantage.

[organizedcrime]

Gandalf was NEVER at any such disadvantage.That was after his whole "getting pwned by Saruman" though he had been healed. Nonetheless the Balrog was like an angelic...well monster thingy, on the same level as Sauron almost.

[The Wanderer]

The thing is that Gandlaf came back from the Death. And as ydraliskos said, he's a god. he just can't lose :)

[RAGING BONER]

I give it to the guy who has the best spell sequencer & chain contingency and can cast time stop first.

[uncle jafuncle]

I'd say Gandalf based upon the nature of their beings.

Gandalf: A Maiar. Maiar = powerful servants of the Lord of the Rings deities known as the Valar. You could equate him with a demi-god.

Dumbledore: A principal/dean of a magic school.

Feats: Gandalf defeated the Balrog...I can't remember any great feats Dumbledore performed, but I've only seen the movies so Dumbledore might have done something badass in the books.

[Chamcham Trigger]

I give it to Gandalf for the kinda godlyhood.

[RealaMoreno]

I follow the Chaminator's words, Gandalf for his status.

[Amatsu]

except it was never said that Gandalf was Sauron's equal in LOTR

while in HP Dumbledore is said to be even more powerful than Voldemort and Voldemort is said to be the most powerful dark wizard EVER!

[Yasha]

Gandalf will say: Run, you fool!

I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Arnor. You cannot pass. The black magic will not avail you, flame of Hogwarts. :laugh

[organizedcrime]

while in HP Dumbledore is said to be even more powerful than Voldemort and Voldemort is said to be the most powerful dark wizard EVER!Different power levels my friend. Ever read the Silmarillion? There are guys in there that could make Sauron, the boss of LotR, look like shit. The Balrogs are among the original spirit thingies that were at the beginning.

[RAGING BONER]

My baldur's gate character can pwn both of these fossils without breaking much of a sweat.

[Valdens]

my runescape character can do the same. and dumbledore, but only because im mad at gandalf. he can use magic to fricking move a mountain yet didnt cant use magic to make himself not fall in that endless pit. it woulda saved him a lot of fricking climbing.

[Amatsu]

Not to mention that Dumbledore can Apparate while Gandalf can't. So if Dumbledore pushed Gandalf off a cliff it's game over

[uncle jafuncle]

My baldur's gate character can pwn both of these fossils without breaking much of a sweat.

Does your character have a white beard? If not, it loses.

[Yami no Takeshi]

Note these few thing:
Gandalf is basicaly immortal.
He is an Maiar of the race of Ainur.

Maiar : Of the many spirits that descended into Arda at its beginning, there were those of lesser stature than the Valar (though they were still powerful) who were known as the Maiar. (Valars were the gods of middle earth, Maiar is just below them.)

Ainur : The Ainur were the first, and mightiest, beings created by Ilúvatar in the depths of time before the beginning of the World. The Ainur were the 'offspring of [Ilúvatar's] thought', and each was given understanding only of that part of the mind of Ilúvatar from which he or she came. The exception to this was Melkor, the greatest of the Ainur, who had a part of the gifts of all the others. (And considering that gandalf came from the race of Ainur[who are gods] this basically makes him a demi-god.)

Balrogs : The Balrogs originated as Maiar, beings of the same kind as Sauron himself.

So as note we have a demi-god who is powerful enough to take down another creature of demi-god status againts a mortal wizard who cant kill another mortal wizard.

.........
My vote goes to demi-god.

[Fenix]

i would think that for someone browsing on an anime forum, the classification of mortal and gods would be meaningless to you. seeing as how countless mortals have done the impossible in many animes while the gods and demigods stood hopelessly or were simply defeated

[Spacey]

Well it's a hard fight physicially Gandalf is stronger however.. I'd say Dumbledore has alot more spells at hand. And I'm sure Dumbledore has fought all kinds of magical creatures in his youth.

Umm... It's hard to decide really Gandalf is magically and physically more powerfull. But Dumbledore has alot of suprise moves like apparate etc.

[Yami no Takeshi]

@Firemaw

But we aint talking about anime.
We are talking about characters from a different form of work.
Works where being a god/demi-god tends to mean something. :oh

At least when in these form of work when a mortal does beat down a god explanations are given as to why it happened.
Once such example would be when Belgarion slew the One-eyed God Torak in the Belgariad.
he only managed it because he wielded the Sword of Riva and the Orb of Aldur.
So what happens in anime have nothing to do with this.

[Donkey Show]

dumbledore with prep time and avada kerdava spam laz0r.

[lapiz]

I think Dumbledore would win the fight.. You guys give too much credit to Maiar.. They weren't so much special during the ancient times.. They were nothing compared to Ainur, they were just their servants. They were just immortal and had the support of the Ainur, but so were the High Elves. In addition High Elves could pwn Balrogs and they were never demi-gods. My point is that Gandalf is not a demi-god.
In fact, he died during the fight with the balrog(btw, Dumbledore would pwn the Balrog, Avada Kedavra the bitch after apparating behind him to avoid possible dmg..) and was sent back by the Ainur because he had a role to play to the wheel of fate. Not because of his special abilities.

And with what would Gandalf kill Dumbledore?? With Holy light??(the attack he did against the Naz'goul.) or with the the Shield he did against the Balrog?(for which btw, he needed the help of his ring to cast, hence the chanting). You can say that he could use his sword to kill Dumbledore the non-magical way, but Dumbledore could just transfigure the sword to a rope and tie Gandalf up..
There is no way for Dumbledore to lose. He is a winner due to world differences.

ffs, Gandalf can't even shoot a fireball!!! (me<---angry at Gandalf)

[Yami no Takeshi]

The problem with taking characters from two seperate magical realms is the fact we dont know how magic in one world works in another.
Who is to say that Avada Kedavra would even scratch a Maiar?
That is the problem.
So i tend to just leave the magic out and just gave it to the Demi-god. *shurgs

[Sakura]

both. but dumbledore looks like a nicer person. they're too similar-looking to tell. trust me, you'll have to look at it from a special way

[ydraliskos]

My baldur's gate character can pwn both of these fossils without breaking much of a sweat.

Mine can pwn yours =D

lvl 42 sorcerer here. Likes to timestop, greater alacrity, and unload all the dragon's breath, abi dalzhim's horrid wiltign and delayed blast fireballs he has.

My planetar one-hit-killed Firekraag once =D

[ydraliskos]

Not to mention that Dumbledore can Apparate while Gandalf can't. So if Dumbledore pushed Gandalf off a cliff it's game over


Are you even serious or are you just pretending not to understand?
Gandalf is a GOD, how can you think being pushed over a cliff will do anything to him?

What's with people defending dumbledore here? aare you ppl just being the devil's advocates for shits and giggles or you really believe what you're saying?

[Luckey]

Mine can pwn yours =D

lvl 42 sorcerer here. Likes to timestop, greater alacrity, and unload all the dragon's breath, abi dalzhim's horrid wiltign and delayed blast fireballs he has.

My planetar one-hit-killed Firekraag once =D
STOP SPEAKING IN YOUR DEVIL LANGUAGE. SPEAK ENGLISH!! EEENGGLIIISH!!!!

[Anthriel]

I think people are voting too much by reputation (and by who is a rip-off).

Gandalf's magical powers:

Lightning Bolts (from The Hobbit)
"Holy Light"
Subtle, manipulating stuff

Dumbledore's magical powers:

Teleporting
Death Spells
All the stuff the students do

Gandalf's problem is that he comes from a low magic world. In LotR, magic is mostly manipulation, in HP, it's all the flashy stuff you could think of. Therefore, I'd have to vote for Dumbledore.

Elminster would own both of them any day though. (Yay, battle of the Merlin rip-offs)

[uncle jafuncle]

I think Dumbledore would win the fight.. You guys give too much credit to Maiar.. They weren't so much special during the ancient times.. They were nothing compared to Ainur, they were just their servants.

Yeah so? Lord of the Rings is filled with people who can kill Dumbledore is all you're saying...

They were just immortal and had the support of the Ainur, but so were the High Elves. In addition High Elves could pwn Balrogs and they were never demi-gods. My point is that Gandalf is not a demi-god.
In fact, he died during the fight with the balrog(btw, Dumbledore would pwn the Balrog, Avada Kedavra the bitch after apparating behind him to avoid possible dmg..) and was sent back by the Ainur because he had a role to play to the wheel of fate. Not because of his special abilities.

High Elves can't beat the Balrog...Legolas was just as fucked as the other races present when the Balrog showed up. And we are equating Gandalf with a demi-god because he serves the same role as one: servant of the greater gods.

And with what would Gandalf kill Dumbledore?? With Holy light??(the attack he did against the Naz'goul.) or with the the Shield he did against the Balrog?(for which btw, he needed the help of his ring to cast, hence the chanting). You can say that he could use his sword to kill Dumbledore the non-magical way, but Dumbledore could just transfigure the sword to a rope and tie Gandalf up..
There is no way for Dumbledore to lose. He is a winner due to world differences.

ffs, Gandalf can't even shoot a fireball!!! (me<---angry at Gandalf)

Gandalf actually can shot fireballs...he does it in the fellowship against the trolls and the balrog as they break into Balin's tomb. In the book, that is. In fact, Gandalf's flames are described as white-hot, giving off the appearance of being holy light...

and Glamdring is of a magical nature so I doubt Dumbledore could do anything to it...

Dumbldore can lose especially due to world differences. Look at it this way:

Gandalf will always be resurrected no matter how many times he gets killed. If he is in the physical world, he hasn't completed his task yet, and therefore his superiors will send him back more powerful each time just like they did when he died killing the Balrog.

[FireEel]

I would say its a draw.

Physically, Gandalf is stronger. However, magically, Dumbledore is both better and wiser.

Until Book 7 is out, we can never assume Dumbledore's true intentions and meanings at the end of Book 6.

[ydraliskos]

High Elves can't beat the Balrog...Legolas was just as fucked as the other races present when the Balrog showed up. And we are equating Gandalf with a demi-god because he serves the same role as one: servant of the greater gods.


Since when is Legolas a high elf? The LAST Noldor in middle earth is Galandriel (3rd generation noldo) Legolas is just a measly wood elf prince, thats like mehhhh.

A strong Noldor warrior would kill the Balrog. (Precedent : Feanor kicking the crap out of balrogs, and Ecthelion, the general of _____ killing Gothmog, a balrog general)

Hell, Feanor's brother Fingolfin fought and injured morgoth, and feanor was stronger. He could probably hand Sauron his ass.

And no, Gandalf is a Maia, as is Sauron, as are all the Balrogs. Sauron and the Balrogs were under Morgoth(bad mofo, seriously) wing since day 1 tho, therefore they're a LOT stronger than all the other Maiar, except maybe Tulkas. But still Gandalf IS a second rank GOD, (first being Valar)

Hope this clears up stuff...


Gandalf actually can shot fireballs...he does it in the fellowship against the trolls and the balrog as they break into Balin's tomb. In the book, that is. In fact, Gandalf's flames are described as white-hot, giving off the appearance of being holy light...

and Glamdring is of a magical nature so I doubt Dumbledore could do anything to it...

Dumbldore can lose especially due to world differences. Look at it this way:

Gandalf will always be resurrected no matter how many times he gets killed. If he is in the physical world, he hasn't completed his task yet, and therefore his superiors will send him back more powerful each time just like they did when he died killing the Balrog.

That's true. And that's why Gandalf >>>>>>>>>>>> ... (...).... >>>> dumbledore.

Oh and dumbledore was a dumbass. Just because he's stupid and believes that everyone can change doesn't mean he can take risks that involve other people's lifes based only on wishful thinking. I can't even count the stuff he did wrong.

[Raistlin-sama]

Elminster would own both of them any day though. (Yay, battle of the Merlin rip-offs)

I remember creating a thread like that once...

[RAGING BONER]

the Dumbledore from the first 2 movies was more impressive than the wrinkled toothpick we have now...I give it to Gandalph because he's a wizard by day and mutant master of magnetism by night.

[EonNinja]

Gandalf is srtonger....and kooler in a way.........he has a staff......

[HOKAGEKYZRE]

gandalf would bitch slap dumbledore...plus i think gandalf is a much more honerable man than to fight a dead body...=P

[Fenix]

@Firemaw

But we aint talking about anime.
We are talking about characters from a different form of work.
Works where being a god/demi-god tends to mean something. :oh
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Mean what? What matters is the result. "How" someone does it dont matter. gods and demigods are defeated in the Fiction world all the time.

Like all fictions, the cast are divided into tiers of powers. For battles like these we should exam the abilities people have shown and how relatively strong they are compared to the tiers in their own world.

[uncle jafuncle]

Mean what? What matters is the result. "How" someone does it dont matter. gods and demigods are defeated in the Fiction world all the time.

Like all fictions, the cast are divided into tiers of powers. For battles like these we should exam the abilities people have shown and how relatively strong they are compared to the tiers in their own world.

Going by that reasoning Sarutobi should be able to beat Renji or some other Vice-Captain from Bleach...which he can't. Even though he's one of the strongest Naruto characters he doesn't compare to a Bleach character who is much less impressive in his realm.

Maybe, I'm under-estimating Dumbledore, but he hasn't done anything impressive enough to defeat Gandalf, whereas Gandalf has shown multiple times he is quite experienced and capable in battle both with swords and spells. He has defenses against magic. He has attacks. He has the physical fortitude. He has divine intervention. Gandalf ftw.

[Cytokinesis]

Going by that reasoning Sarutobi should be able to beat Renji or some other Vice-Captain from Bleach...which he can't. Even though he's one of the strongest Naruto characters he doesn't compare to a Bleach character who is much less impressive in his realm.

Maybe, I'm under-estimating Dumbledore, but he hasn't done anything impressive enough to defeat Gandalf, whereas Gandalf has shown multiple times he is quite experienced and capable in battle both with swords and spells. He has defenses against magic. He has attacks. He has the physical fortitude. He has divine intervention. Gandalf ftw.

He IS divine intervention. Gandalf wins easily.

[lapiz]

High Elves can't beat the Balrog...Legolas was just as fucked as the other races present when the Balrog showed up. And we are equating Gandalf with a demi-god because he serves the same role as one: servant of the greater gods.

As Ydraliskos said, Legolas is no High Elf(aka Noldor).


Gandalf actually can shot fireballs...he does it in the fellowship against the trolls and the balrog as they break into Balin's tomb. In the book, that is. In fact, Gandalf's flames are described as white-hot, giving off the appearance of being holy light...

I forgot about that.. I'll give it to you.



Gandalf will always be resurrected no matter how many times he gets killed. If he is in the physical world, he hasn't completed his task yet, and therefore his superiors will send him back more powerful each time just like they did when he died killing the Balrog.

He will always be ressurected because he is destined to win against Dumbledore? We are talking about a fight in a mysterious realm called Outskirts Battledome(or whatever its name is these days..) and not in each character's realm/world.. Meaning that, outside factors, such as bad weather or gods reviving Gandalf because they have bet on him, are not taken into account. In addition to that, to quote Dumbledore, there are worse things than death...



And no, Gandalf is a Maia, as is Sauron, as are all the Balrogs. Sauron and the Balrogs were under Morgoth(bad mofo, seriously) wing since day 1 tho, therefore they're a LOT stronger than all the other Maiar, except maybe Tulkas. But still Gandalf IS a second rank GOD, (first being Valar)

What are you saying is.. Noldor(high-elves)>Bad Maiar(Sauron, Balrogs..)>Good Maiar(guys similar to Gandalf except from Tulkas the hunter..).

What this is all saying is that Good Maiar were the weakest of all beings with power that could make a difference(humans and dwarves are not taken into account due to their not being at their pinnacle, as the Noldor were). And in any way, Maiar staying in Middle-Earth during the third-age(the one that lotr takes place) are forgoten beings of some other age with really reduced strengths. Dumbledore is(was at least) the strongest wizard, maybe, of all times in his world.

And to conclude this essay.. Dumbledore is cheap against Gandalf.. His powers are as mentioned before, flashy and many and really magic. As of yet we don't know what magic in harry potter can't do, it seems as if it has no limitations, while in lotr, Wizards are beings that can alter some circumstances by very little and their powers come from somewhere and are justified. HP wizards are uncontained and unreasonably able to do what they do. Magic exists just because. End.-

[Yak]

Huh? I thought they were all the same person: Gandalf, Dumbledore and Santa Clause...? :huh :oh :P

GAndalf wins this... even if their magic power would be equal (which I believe isn't), Gandalf could still use a sword... ^^;

[Spacey]

Dumbeldore: Accio sword

There went Gandalf's sword

[Yak]

Okay, I have to admit that I don't know much about HP magic. I didn't read the books... ^^

[Spacey]

Okay, I have to admit that I don't know much about HP magic. I didn't read the books... ^^


Ah well don't worry... I don't read comics like practically everyone seems to do here... When I was kid I knew about superman,spiderman,ironman and batman that was about it.. Before I came here I had never heard of any Thanos or Living Tribunal or Silver Surfer etc etc etc...

[FireEel]

Okay, I have to admit that I don't know much about HP magic. I didn't read the books... ^^

1) Dumbledore : Expelliarmus!

There went Gandalf's staff...

2) Dumbledore : Petrificus Totalus!

Gandalf became as limp as a boned fish and couldn't move...

3) Gandalf uses his fireball attack, of which Dumbledore conjures a Flame-Freezing Charm, making him completely immune to fire...

4) Dumbledore : Finite Incantatem!

The effects of any spells Gandalf has used instantly is removed...

5) Dumbledore : Incarcerous!

Gandalf is tied up in ropes instantly...

6) Dumbledore : Protego!

Any spells Gandalf uses is deflected

7) Dumbledore : Rictusempra!

Gandalf starts laughing hysterically...

This is less than 1/10 of the spells Dumbledore could use.

Not that I am saying Dumbledore wins though...just giving an example.

[Mugiwara Luffy]

Can Gandalf from Lord of the Rings beat Dumbledore from Harry Potter?(This is Gandalf the Gray and he doesn't have Shadowfax.)
They're fighting in a big plains area.

[Kinjishi]

I assume you are using Gandalf the white..................well ill pick gandalf anyway. He's got shadowfax (if hes allowed)and has lived way longer than Dumbledore. He's also a hell of a swordsman. Dumbledore is too old and fragile, whereas Gandalf moves like hes in his 20s. To my knowledge there arent many good spells for attacking in Harry Potter, besides the 3. Gandalf is kind of immortal, although he can be killed. Why am I even debating Harry Potter:huh

[Orion]

book gandalf would stomp dumbledore so hard its not even funny.

[Sasuke`]

Gandalf ftw id say.

[Thanatos]

Gandalf just because he is cooler then Dumbledor (that, and I hate HP... and his little dog too). Honestly though, what combat capabilities has the school principal shown? I'll assume that he knows "the three unspeakable curses" or whatever they are called, but Gandalf's "spells" don't even need incantations. They are really just "blasts" of his power.

So while Dumbledor is trying to remember a bunch of fake latin words, Gandalf will be crushing him against the ground with his raw power (not that I see two "good" wizards fighting each other anyway :P).

I've racked my brain, and aside from the 2 getting drunk and Gandalf spurning Dumbledor's advances :laugh, I see no serious reason why these 2 would even begin fighting.

[Gaelek_13]

This has been done before in the form of:

Gandalf the White VS Dumbledore.

Gandalf won that one easily and even Gandalf the Grey can walk all over Dumbledore I reckon.

[martryn]

Movie Gandalf sucked ass and I think would be defeated by book Dumbledore, though I don't know how book Gandalf would hold up. If it's Gandalf the Grey (as the original post states, morons) then I don't see exactly why he's that powerful. Other then his immortality, he doesn't seem to use alot of magic, at least nothing that is overtly combative. When did it ever talk about him blasting shit with magic? I remember the Dumbledore vs. Voldemort fight at the end of OotP and am thinking that at least Dumbledore uses attack spells. He could just "expel" Gandalf's staff at the beginning of combat and Gandalf would be sorta screwed, right?

[omg laser pew pew!]

Movie Gandalf can break dance

GG DUMBLEDORE

[Thanatos]

When did it ever talk about him blasting shit with magic?

In his fight with Saruman, after he had revealed the palantir (palantyr, not sure how to spell it). Technically, I said blast with "power", not 'magic'.

[Kinjishi]

If it's Gandalf the Grey (as the original post states, morons) then I don't see exactly why he's that powerful.

Im going to take that as an insult. Seeing as you were not here from the start I would suggest you keep your mouth closed about things you dont know. The OP was edited after the argument of which gandalf was in question, grey or white, and was only recently added.

gandalf the Grey still owns Dumbledore.

[Art of Run]

If thi is lvl 10 LoTR BfME Gandalf then Gandalf ftw

[Doggie]

Gandalf in any form would whup Dumbeldores wrinkly ass.

[The Nameless Pharaoh]

Done before. To see the thread, open my profile and see the threads and choose "Battle of the old men !". Anyways Gandalf FTW.

[Crimson Scorpio]

Gandalf was the only conceivable threat for Sauron and Saruman, the two most powerful men of Middle Earth. Dumbledore is an old fool who has to get replaced every movie because the actor that previously played him dies. In the book Gandalf took on the Witch-King, the most powerful of the Nazgul. Besides reputation, Dumbledore hasn't accomplished too many feats to be compared to Mithrandir.

[Powdered Toast Man]

Gandalf the Grey was able to nearly beat Sarumans ass. He was able to fight with that Demon in the dwarfs mountain alone. What has dumbledore done that is notable? his spell and all HP spell would probably have little to no effect on Gandalf anyway.
Gandalf in any color would probably be able to take on Dumbledore anyday

[Crimson Scorpio]

Forgot to note that Gandalf has also cheated death by being reincarnated into a more powerful form of himself. Dumbledore can't even cheat old age.

[~Shin~]

Is gandalf in the book near nigh omnipotent?