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Rokudou Taichō
12-07-2008, 12:32 AM
I've finally figured out what the big deal is about the Twin Drive. I had originally thought that the Federation had already mastered the twin drive. Due to the fact that the Trilobyte had two GN Drives from what I could see, and the Alvator had 8 GN Drives.
But I now realize that they weren't synchronized like the 2 drives in 00. Which means their power is added rather than raised to an exponent. Say each GN drive produces X amount of particles, Trilobyte has an output of 3X, as it has 3 drives. However the Twin Drive system in 00 raises particle emissions to the 2nd power, or X^2.
Now, we already know true GN Drives have an unlimited amount of particles, whereas Tau (red) drives require recharging, but setting that aside for now, lets assume in this case that they're equal and the maximum output for both types of drives over a set period of time is X = 50. At any given time Trilobyte would only be able to achieve a total value of 150. However 00 in this case would be 250. And, then there's trans-am which raises the spec 3 times, meaning 00 could achieve a maximum output of 750. To achieve the same power, you would need a suit with 15 Tau drives.
WOW! I'm so slow I'm probably the last person to realize this.
lol i think u are
but the trilobyte has 3 gn drives n alavtoor had 7(not that its imporant mind u)
seems to be that the body of the gundam cant handle the power propper either thats why they needed the o-raiser
should see top performace next ep hopefully
Teerack
12-07-2008, 09:36 AM
I don't watch Gumdam zero, so I learned something today.
:shroomslander
Wesley
12-07-2008, 09:41 AM
GN-Drives are based on Quantum and f-ed up personalities to power them. Quantifying and understanding them makes about as much sense as "Spiral power".
Tau drives on the other hand, they seem to be nothing more than batteries. Handy things to have in distributing large amounts of easily portable power. Compared to the monstrous complexies for absorbing microwave beams from the solar rings, they're probably very easy to mass produce and maintain.
They're an ingenius device that represent a boon to civilization. They're utterly superior to the so-called real ones.
Goodfellow
12-07-2008, 09:44 AM
GN-Drives are based on Quantum and f-ed up personalities to power them. Quantifying and understanding them makes about as much sense as "Spiral power".
What's so hard about understanding Spiral Power:lmao?
Wesley
12-07-2008, 10:06 AM
What's so hard about understanding Spiral Power:lmao?
Why would you bother trying to understand it is my point. Just enjoy the ride or bitch about wanting it to end, whatever floats your nice boat.
Lol, if A-Laws realises this. They probably would insert 15 Tau Drives into a MS. Considering how cheap the Tau drives seems to be, they produced loads of those GNX and GN X-III.
Biolink
12-07-2008, 04:04 PM
GN-Drives are based on Quantum and f-ed up personalities to power them. Quantifying and understanding them makes about as much sense as "Spiral power".
Tau drives on the other hand, they seem to be nothing more than batteries. Handy things to have in distributing large amounts of easily portable power. Compared to the monstrous complexies for absorbing microwave beams from the solar rings, they're probably very easy to mass produce and maintain.
They're an ingenius device that represent a boon to civilization. They're utterly superior to the so-called real ones.
Except that the only differences between a regular GN Drive and a GN-T type drive is the TD Blanket which takes all of that time to make in the Atmosphere of Jupiter, which gives the original GN Drives unlimited operational time. Nothing complicated about undestanding that at all.
The other big difference being the original GN Particles make health restoration possible, while the GN Tau drive particles do not.
If Louise had been shot by the original drive, they could have regenerated her arm. The radiation poison from the GN Tau drives made this impossible.
I also have to mention, there is nothing wrong with breathing in GN-T particles, but the radiation given away by usage of the weapons is bad, which is what killed Louise's arm.
Wesley
12-07-2008, 05:46 PM
Except that the only differences between a regular GN Drive and a GN-T type drive is the TD Blanket which takes all of that time to make in the Atmosphere of Jupiter, which gives the original GN Drives unlimited operational time. Nothing complicated about undestanding that at all.
Except it's all cock and bull. I'd rather they not explain it than make shit up.
Also, I honestly believe personalities or brains are the real driving force behind GN-Drives. It's the only explanation for why f-tards like Setsuna are made into Meisters over people that are actually talented and not evil.
The other big difference being the original GN Particles make health restoration possible, while the GN Tau drive particles do not.
If Louise had been shot by the original drive, they could have regenerated her arm. The radiation poison from the GN Tau drives made this impossible.
That sounds stupid and makes me want to hurt things.
The way I figure it, Tau drives are ultimately powered by the sun. That I can appreciate. Even if the supposed science behind the battery is fictious, I can appreciate the potentional application, limitations, and compensation of their utility. Their cost-effectiveness.
Use them up, uninstall them, hook them up to the Space Elevators/Microwave power station, and use them again for something else. Sure, so far they've only used them in weapons and GMFs(Giant Middle Fingers) to VBP (Victimized Brown People), but that's a result of Celestial Being's insistence that GN-Drives are only to be used for military applications. Because obviously power is only meant to be used to express your world view and force others to conform to it. Has absolutely nothing to do with living in peace and comfort.
Anyway, I digress. Depending upon how hard it is to make GN-Drives and if crackpots are the central mechanism for their use, Tau Drives are most likely more practical and will probably be the driving force behind humanity's expansion into space.
Biolink
12-07-2008, 06:18 PM
Except it's all cock and bull. I'd rather they not explain it than make shit up.
Also, I honestly believe personalities or brains are the real driving force behind GN-Drives. It's the only explanation for why f-tards like Setsuna are made into Meisters over people that are actually talented and not evil.
That sounds stupid and makes me want to hurt things.
The way I figure it, Tau drives are ultimately powered by the sun. That I can appreciate. Even if the supposed science behind the battery is fictious, I can appreciate the potentional application, limitations, and compensation of their utility. Their cost-effectiveness.
Use them up, uninstall them, hook them up to the Space Elevators/Microwave power station, and use them again for something else. Sure, so far they've only used them in weapons and GMFs(Giant Middle Fingers) to VBP (Victimized Brown People), but that's a result of Celestial Being's insistence that GN-Drives are only to be used for military applications. Because obviously power is only meant to be used to express your world view and force others to conform to it. Has absolutely nothing to do with living in peace and comfort.
Anyway, I digress. Depending upon how hard it is to make GN-Drives and if crackpots are the central mechanism for their use, Tau Drives are most likely more practical and will probably be the driving force behind humanity's expansion into space.
Except it's all cock and bull. I'd rather they not explain it than make shit up.
Also, I honestly believe personalities or brains are the real driving force behind GN-Drives. It's the only explanation for why f-tards like Setsuna are made into Meisters over people that are actually talented and not evil.
What you think is different than the facts that we have been told, however unbelievable that may be to you.
That sounds stupid and makes me want to hurt things.
Great. Still does not change the fact that we were told very specifically around the time that the Trinity accident happened, and when she was in the Hospital that they would not be able to regenerate her arm, do to the radiaton from the blast essentially killing that arm. It was also stated explicitly in the manga.
Anyway, I digress. Depending upon how hard it is to make GN-Drives and if crackpots are the central mechanism for their use, Tau Drives are most likely more practical and will probably be the driving force behind humanity's expansion into space.
Obviously Tau Drives would be more practical if it came down to everyday usage(And so far all GN Drives in general have been used for is military usage so it's a moot point as of now). It has been mass produced. It takes something like 200+ years(A little more or a little less) to make a TD Blanket. Although keep it mind that it wasn't intended for the GN Technology to be mass released in the first place(That was until Livonze and Alejandro started screwing with everything), so for that purpose the regular GN Drives complete their task rather well, which was what the GN Drives were intended for in the first place(Military usage).
Wesley
12-07-2008, 06:35 PM
What you think is different than the facts that we have been told, however unbelievable that may be to you.
That their brains are what make GN-Drives work is speculation, but it's the only explanation I can think of for why certain people are chosen to pilot Gundams over others. Though I'm not really the first one to think that thought or belief is what makes them work, I've merely applied it. So yeah, basically Spiral Power. GAR if you wish, though it's really more like whiny bastardry in this case.
Great. Still does not change the fact that we were told very specifically around the time that the Trinity accident happened, and when she was in the Hospital that they would not be able to regenerate her arm, do to the radiaton from the blast essentially killing that arm. It was also stated explicitly in the manga.
Salt in the wounds. We didn't even get a cool robotic arm out of the incident. And it wasn't an accident. It was a stupid thing put in for the sake of shock value. Ruin one of the best characters in the series.
Obviously Tau Drives would be more practical in everyday usage. It has been mass produced. It takes something like 200+ years(A little more or a little less) to make a TD Blanket. Although keep it mind that it wasn't intended for the GN Technology to be mass released in the first place(That was until Livonze and Alejandro started screwing with everything), so for that purpose the regular GN Drives complete their task rather well, which was what the GN Drives were intended for in the first place(Military usage).
Oh hey, great. Hoard all the good stuff for themselves so they can dictate policy. Midboss did the world a favor, if only he'd been more thorough/competent.
the td blanket stuff wasnt actually stated anyware im pretty sure that was a fan rumor
RAGING BONER
12-07-2008, 08:26 PM
the td blanket stuff wasnt actually stated anyware im pretty sure that was a fan rumor
really? i thought it was the td blanket that made the GN drive particles green n friendly and able to run the solar furnace forever as opposed to the Tau drives which didnt have them....
NewtypeS3
12-07-2008, 10:18 PM
No, the TD Blanket exists.
We just aren't sure what the hell it really does.
Wesley
12-07-2008, 10:21 PM
No, the TD Blanket exists.
We just aren't sure what the hell it really does.
Does it say how long it takes to make? And where's this assumption that there's an exponentional increase in power when combining drives coming from?
NewtypeS3
12-07-2008, 11:00 PM
We're never told how long it takes to make.
And the 'assumption' comes from the show itself, as well as supplementary materials like tech manuals and press releases from Sunrise and Bandai via Gundam Ace.
You know, where the TD Blanket comes from.
Wesley
12-07-2008, 11:07 PM
Oh, well, hell, they're already breaking most laws of physics, what's one more?
Biolink
12-07-2008, 11:21 PM
the td blanket stuff wasnt actually stated anyware im pretty sure that was a fan rumor
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Wesley
12-07-2008, 11:23 PM
I miss when they were just called Solar Furnaces, implying that they were powered by fusion.
NewtypeS3
12-07-2008, 11:23 PM
Oh, look. TD Blanket. The third index item from the left. Thanks, Biolink!
i never said it didnt exist
and we know for sure that they aint in a tau drive and there the reason for green particles and trans -am
im just curious thats all
i'll hold my hand and admit im wrong if u show me
Biolink
12-08-2008, 12:00 AM
And I never said you didn't say they existed, but based on this
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the td blanket stuff wasnt actually stated anyware im pretty sure that was a fan rumor
Without being a Telepath I could only assume you were implying that the TD Blanket didn't exist, especially since there wasn't even a little disclaimer to say that you didn't agree with the rumor that was put out there by fans.
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