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Rokudou Taichō
12-07-2008, 12:07 AM
Why would I analyze such things as how to pilot a gundam? Killing time, plus i like gundams smile-big

I know G00 avoids many explanation with GN particles, but this one cannot be avoided that way (hopefully).

I also am aware of the fact that such discussion solves nothing, but it's a nice way to kill time while G00 is not aired

OK, now onto the discussion:

Let's gather some evidence that will hopefully lead to some conclusions:

1. When Setsuna saw Drei for 1st time he reached his hand towards it, and so did Exia
2. Gundams aren't sitting all the time and you don't see Gundams playing with invisible joysticks
3. When meister wants to see side monitor he can, without making Gundam turn his head

OK I'm going to go technical on this, because I HAVE thought about this long and hard.....

OK for things like the hand movements and leg movements would have to be controlled by a macro system internal to the computer.

For things like the head movement it would have to be something like the helmet of the gunner of an Apache. where he looks the gun points, this is tech we have now.

Now for more in-depth, now while we never see the joysticks in a lot of detail I would guess the joysticks would have at least 3~5 buttons on them.

Of course there would be a button under the thumb that would control firing of the gun. other than that the other buttons would select what weapon system to use. For each weapon system a different macros would be loaded into the control system.

For things like swords, well this would be a little harder. This would take some advance macros and control systems. that I really haven't thought that much about.

With this i conclude that piloting isn't about the joysticks and buttons only as Setsuna reached his hand, and so did Exia. Also point 2 proves that it's not just motion capture, therefore it must be something different. My guess is that Gundams are controlled by meisters' minds, at least to some extent.

I know some of you are thinking that Gundams aren't THAT advanced. Why? In RL such technologies are being developed. It's not like it's reading all your thoughts, just the basic things like wanting to move your arm. Gundams are advanced in every aspect compared to the rest of the world and in the anime it's the 24th century.

Anyways post your own ideas on how Gundams are/could be pilotted.

qks
12-07-2008, 09:35 AM
they pretty much fly them self n while its not confirmed its shown in a few gundam series that they use a neuro link

besides when a gundam pilot looks at hes side moniter we cant see wat the rest of the gundam is doing

to controll any mobile suit like they way they do is imposible with just 2 joysticks some buttons and foot pedals

so im giong with a neuro link

NewtypeS3
12-07-2008, 11:30 AM
Except, if there was such a Neuro-Link, there tech-manuals would actually list them. The closest we ever get outside Turn-A and G-Gundam is the Funnels/Bits/Fin Funnels of the Universal Century and the early DRAGOONs and Gunbarrels of the Cosmic Era.
Turn-A, for it's part, features psycommu systems built into the Turn-X that allows Gym Ghingam to pilot the entire unit with just his mind. Meanwhile, G-Gundam features bio-feedback where if you move an arm, the unit moves it's own arm - not quite right, but close.
Otherwise, the technology does not exist in Gundam. At all.

The real reason for movements so precise and human with controls like that?

Because it looks cool. Duh.

qks
12-07-2008, 11:54 AM
i dont see why they would list it there tech manuals dont really list the controlls

and also im not sure if i watched or not but i see uve stated seed

when kiria fired up the strike n a few other gundams its said neuro link right there under .N
edit:
i dont really rember i think it was just the strike saying that but still

Goodfellow
12-07-2008, 12:04 PM
You yank the joystick forwards and scream at the Mecha.

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Seriously though, already in Mobile Suit Gundam it was mentioned that the Gundam runs on some pretty advanced computer algorithms to do most of their motions.

Lainex9
12-07-2008, 02:22 PM
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qks
12-07-2008, 03:23 PM
only works for zero

DeathGuise_of_Oblivion
12-07-2008, 04:08 PM
I'm just going to say for dramatic purposes the thing with Setsuna happened.

The closest we ever got to seeing how a Gundam works is in the 08th MS team episode where the unit was stuck in the dessert. When they were repairing they're gundams from the environment, we saw the corolation between foot pedals and feet. When you visit cockpit schematics at sites like MAHQ, you see that the basic function of lower body movement coresponds with the units lower body as well. We also can see pedals in the number of four on average. One might say the unit's regular walking is done by one set of pedals, and booster acceleration in combat is done by another pair.

As for flight, we can see some correlation between the keyboards along with navigation being handled by the joysticks. Since upperbody movement for the unit is also seemingly handled by the joysticks as well, it appears that the unit has different "modes" (for the lack of a better term) in which different actions are handled. Flight mode, being a mode in which the speed of the unit is the utmost priority and thus other combat programming is considered a second priority. Combat and Areal Combat could be considered different modes as well, as they would require different programs and functions from the unit.

As for weapons, if we once again turn to the 08th MS Team, we find that rifles and such have small output plugs, with the units hands with small input plugs. It possible to say that there can be similar plugs found in beam sabers and melee weapons that require activation.

This is a brief summery of my findings on piloting modules of Mobile Suits found in the Gundam Universes' with the exception of G-Gundam which follows a very diverse system than the others found in its genre.

NewtypeS3
12-07-2008, 10:11 PM
when kiria fired up the strike n a few other gundams its said neuro link right there under .N
edit:
i dont really rember i think it was just the strike saying that but still
Except it doesn't mean they're mentally-controlled. In fact, the 'Neuro-Link' OS only shows up for one unit - the Providence, where said unit does have something to mentally control.

The other acronyms?
GUNDAM: Generation Unsubdued Nuclear Drive Assault Module
GUNDAM: General Purpose Utility Non-Discontinuity Augmentation Maneuvering Weapon System
GUNDAM: Gigantic Unilateral Numerous Dominating Ammunition
GUNDAM: Gunnery United Nuclear Duetrion Advanced Maneuver System
GUNDAM: General Unilateral Neuro-Link Dispersive Autonomic Maneuver System
GUNDAM: Generation Unrestricted Nuclear Drive Assault Module

So, yeah. Go figure. Only one has Neuro-Link, and it's nothing Kira's used.