Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Predictions ( read first post )

[metronomy]

First and foremost, only continue reading if you have finished reading Half-Blood prince; if you have not and don't want to be spoilt I suggest you leave this thread now.

So what have we learnt from Half-Blood Prince; most importantly, Voldemort has seperated pieces of his soul and has stored them in seven artifacts of significance to him. Without destroying this "Horcruxes" Voldemort can never be killed and he essentially remains immortal; thus explaining why he was not killed when the killing curse backfired on him.

Second most importantly, that Snape was the "half-blood prince"; now this is a fact that alot of people seem to have just browsed over and believe that it had/has no significance to the storyline.



At the moment, I am still in the camp that believes that Snape is still working for Dumbledore; There's still to much mystery surrounding Snape.

I believe Scrimgeour will play a much bigger part in Book 7; As much as there is content towards him, I still get that glimmer of hope aura from him, especially with Dumbledore gone now, I think we have to look to some one.

On the topic of Dumbledore's death; he is dead, and will stay dead. However we now know that he is around in portrait form now in the headmaster's office; so maybe he will still have a part to play in the story.

R.A.B - The only person I can even believe this applies to is Regulus Black; Though Harry seems to be overlooking this letter, we all know that whomever left the fake locket there will play a massive part in Book 7.

Now, I'm most intrested in how Book 7 will be written, I always thought that all 7 years would pass at Hogwarts; now, anything could happen I think Book 7 could last more then a year, and it could quiet possible start or contain a time skip.

What will become of the Order of Phoenix, I think they will still an active group, whom will perhaps join up with the ministry.

That's enough for me at the moment, any other predication and theory's will be much appreciated.

[bearzerger]

My predictions for Dirty Harry 7:
Harry's education at Hogwarts is over, but he is gonna visit there atleast once, whether the school reopens or not, if for nothing else then to get Gryffindors sword.

Harry will get mail, a note or a diary or a magic book or whatever, which was to be delivered in case od DD's death or one of DD's old aquaintances will pay him a visit and perhaps teach him some nice stuff.

one thing for sure there's gonna be alot of death coming in book 7
Voldemort, Snape probably, Bellatrix, several random Death Eaters, atleast one of the Weasleys I'm sure of that.

Voldemorts attacks will begin with Harrys 17th birthday, so he's got to be ready by then.

Most times of the book even more so than in book 6 Harry will act alone. He will use his friends and the Order of the Phoenix mostly to gather information, like who is R.A.B. and so on.

Shall we make a poll on how far Harry will go with Ginny at the wedding? :)
a) all the way (Yeeehaaa)
b) they stop in the middle (no we can't...bla bla bla)
c) they get stopped in the middle by Ron/Mrs Weasley (Rofl)
d) a whole day of agony of holding back on both sides (Argh, I fear it's going to be this one)
e) Ginny comes with new boyfriend and proves what a tramp she is

I'm not sure whether A or C would be the best, Ron walking up on them would be just hilarious. B and D sound most propable and E would only be annoying.

[Dragonzair]

MY predictions:

I think Harry will most definitely not continue his studies. As he said, he will go back to his relatives' house only for a short time, then search for the horcrux...

I, however, don't believe hogwarts will close down, as JKR did say something about the house, Ravenclaw....

Also, i think the ministry will most definitely be a pest, once again...and i think Percy will *hopefully* come to his senses on how stupid he's become...

As said in the other thread, Snape is still a good guy..and he'll probably explain everything in the last book..

JKR also said that the last word of the book will be scar? I think Harry might lose his scar..but that's just me...
any other interpretations of this?

[mgrace]

thanks.... no need to read the book.. i got the spoilers here AWESOME......

saved me some time

[silverwings]

I think R.A.B. will play a big part in the next book. The fact that not much time in Book 6 was spent on what happen to Sirius leads me to believe we have to find *something* out in Book 7.

One of the main 3 isn't making it.

Snape will die, probably in a redemption move. Or, Snape will play a big part in taking down the big V.

Luna and Neville (especially Neville, I think), will play a larger role in Book 7 compared to Book 6.

Sirius will come back.[/wishfulthinking]

Finally, this may seem like the last book in the Harry Potter series, but I don't think it will be the last book in the Harry Potter universe. :wink

[Procyon]

Sirius' brother, dead or alive, should have a more prominent role due to the recent Horcrux thing.

[Nakor]

its hard for me to decide if snape is good or evil. why would he kill dumbledore if he was good? i mean he could have just told them all to leave and lead them out instead of quickly killing dumbledore. i mean voldimort will still know that malfoy didn't go through with killing him. it seems to be a great sacrifice to just be able to stay close to voldemort. the only reason i can think up is the unbreakable vow.

hogwarts will most likely still be opened. but what if she skips a year or two before starting the story in the seventh book. like hogwarts could be closed for a year and then reopened one year later if they feel it is safe again.

i wanna know what you guys think about this: how is harry supposed to get strong enough to face voldemort, let alone snape(maybe), and various death eaters. he's got to be able to do spells without talking all the time and he's got to be able to block people from reading his mind. i don't think there is anyway for him to get this strong in sometime under a years time.

[sik4rilz]

ok..i think i got it..he will practice magic over the summer..(doing non-verbal spells)..they will expel him and he will not care..he get's his apparation license and goes to the burrow for the wedding and takes ron/ginny/hermione.(she'll be there) and maybe luna n neville..(they will be important) to go find horcruxes.i think snape is still good. i think he may have been told to kill dumbledore so that V. will trust him..so that way snape can turn his back on him within the same second

[Dr. Maturin]

I'm glad you pointed out those concerns fireball, cause I have the same ones. I was a bit disappointed in book 6, because IMO we did not see Harry grow and develop very much as a wizard. To me right now, there are too many factors stacked against Harry and he is not properly equipped to face the challenges. Dumbledore had a hell of a time getting the horcruxes and he is one of the greatest wizards of all time. I just want the plot to be realistic. I'll be interested to see how JK deals with this.

Predictions:
I don't think Ginny is just going to let Harry walk away.
I bet Fleur's little sister is going to have a huge crush on Harry and try to give Ginny so competition at Bill's wedding.
I don't think Sirius's role is over yet. Ditto with Dumbledore.


Reps for fireball.

[mayumi]

i am not really sure how harry can possibly get strong enough to defeat voldemort unless its dumb luck. maybe he will practise half-blood prince spells(not). i think the person who will aid harry or fumble voldemort's evil plans will be wormtail. since he is debted to harry and i believe dumbledore told him that that is a big thing.

snape is someone i don't trust. he is kinda like voldemort, would be funny if he takes over or something. jk. malfoy will probably help harry, his mother and him don't look like they are too fond of the dark lord. they already know they are his tools and only want to protect his dad/husband.

[TenshiOni]

I have one depressing prediction.

I believe Harry is the final horcrux and that in order to kill Voldemort, once and for all, he's going to have to take his own life in the process.

THAT would be sad.

Oh and...

Snape isn't really evil. He killed Dumbledore because he had to due to the Unbreakable Vow.

[sik4rilz]

Snape isn't really evil. He killed Dumbledore because he had to due to the Unbreakable Vow.

no way..i mean..i don't think he's evil but he didnt do it cuz of the unbreakable vow. he could have very well stayed inside without going outside and killing him..i dont think he would've died..i mean..if he didnt KNOW it wouldnt hurt him right?..and i'm pretty sure that harry would survive the horcruxes..because V has to kill harry directly right?.

[Nakor]

I have one depressing prediction.

I believe Harry is the final horcrux and that in order to kill Voldemort, once and for all, he's going to have to take his own life in the process.

THAT would be sad.

Oh and...

Snape isn't really evil. He killed Dumbledore because he had to due to the Unbreakable Vow.

how could he be the final horcrux? how would voldemort have gotten his soul inside harry?

when i read it, i didn't get the impression that snape had to cause of the unbreakable vow. i mean he was supposed to help malfoy accomplish his plan right? but wasn't his plan just to get the death eaters in the school and set them up to kill dumbledore? did their plan actually involve malfoy being the one killing him, or was he just supposed to help?

[sik4rilz]

did their plan actually involve malfoy being the one killing him, or was he just supposed to help?
he was supposed to kill him, but he wanted help. that's y he tried it alone twice.

[TenshiOni]

no way..i mean..i don't think he's evil but he didnt do it cuz of the unbreakable vow. he could have very well stayed inside without going outside and killing him..i dont think he would've died..i mean..if he didnt KNOW it wouldnt hurt him right?..and i'm pretty sure that harry would survive the horcruxes..because V has to kill harry directly right?.

In chapter two, Snape made the Unbreakable Vow with Draco's mother, promising that, he'd protect Draco no matter what (and that includes from Order of the Phoenix member's who might try to kill or harm Draco if they catch him pointing a wand at Dumbledore) and that, if Draco was unable to carry out the murder, that he'd do it for him. Snape had no choice in the matter.

IMO, when Snape realized that he had no choice but to make the vow with Malfoy's mom and Beatrix in order not to blow his cover, he realized that he was killing himself as surely he didn't believe that the great Dumbledore would be caught defenseless against a 16 teen-year-old (remember, Draco's mom was worried about this very thing, a teenager vs. the strongest wizard living), meaning, by agreeing to the Unbreakable Vow, Snape was hoping that Dumbledore would kill him if need be. By making the Vow, Snape was sacrificing himself to save Draco, who if he didn't help, he would've surely been killed along with his father and mother. But as we all know, there is no way Dumbledore would kill Snape, so in the end, Dumbledore realized (i'm sure he realized Snape was under a Unbreakable Vow) that he'd have to sacrifice himself to save Snape.

Snape isn't evil. Now, that the Unbreakable Vow is over, Snape must be filled with deep pain for having killed Dumbledore. But also, he can't reveal that he's still on the Order of the Phoenix's side. I mean, he just proved extreme loyalty to Voldemort by killing the only wizard he ever feared. It'd be stupid to yell out now, "HA! Got ya, Dark Lord! I'm really a good guy!". He'd be killed. So now, Snape has to play it evil. Until, of course, the time is right...then, I bet he'll help Harry in the final battle against Voldemort and his Death Eaters.

This, is all my opinion, and prediction.

And as for the Harry being a Horcrux thing, I just threw out that prediction as it sounds like something Rowling would do. I dunno, maybe when Voldemort gave Harry his scar, transferring many of his powers unto Harry, he unintentionally made one more Horcrux than planned? So basically, I'm saying, maybe Voldemort made 7 Horcruxes, instead of 6, but he doesn't know it.

EDIT: Damn, so many typos...I think i fixed them all. X_X

[metronomy]

I believe Harry is the final horcrux and that in order to kill Voldemort, once and for all, he's going to have to take his own life in the process.
Indeed, the prophecy never said anything about both of them dieing. Though after all the Horcrux's are gone, Voldemort will still be alive, so someone has to kill him.

[sik4rilz]

if dumbledore knew that snape was under an unbreakable vow, it wasnt then. it was probably before that. snape would'vy told him. and as for snape killing DD, i don't he did it for his own safety. i think he would've gladly given his own life for DD's because if he was truly good he would've sacrifised his own life. and killed the death eaters or didn't kill DD in which case he would've died anyway. and i dont think that harrys would be the 7th horcrux because harry needs to die to be a horcrux.(i think). good theory though.

[kapsi]

Dumbledore comes back as Dumbledore the White.

[sik4rilz]

um...lord of the rings much?

[metronomy]

um...lord of the rings much?
You must cast Voldemort into the very fiery chasm of whence he came.

[sik4rilz]

yeah..and harry will sudenly become obssesed with his invisibilty cloak..

[TenshiOni]

if dumbledore knew that snape was under an unbreakable vow, it wasnt then.

What? :blink

it was probably before that. snape would'vy told him.

Read what I wrote. I said that. In my theory, Dumbledore knew he was under the Unbreakable Vow, regardless of whether Snape told him or not (Snape might not of been able to tell him - might've been something about the magic behind the Vow).

and as for snape killing DD, i don't he did it for his own safety. i think he would've gladly given his own life for DD's because if he was truly good he would've sacrifised his own life.

i sad that....

and killed the death eaters or didn't kill DD in which case he would've died anyway.

Yeah, after the deed was done (killing DD), something he HAD to do and had no choice in the matter, Snape couldn't have gone around killing Death Eaters as that'd blow his cover which he just unintentionally strengtherned 10-folds.

and i dont think that harrys would be the 7th horcrux because harry needs to die to be a horcrux.(i think). good theory though.

That's what I'm saying. Harry will die. =/

Hopefully I'm wrong though, I don't want him to be.

[metronomy]

I cannot wait to finally read about Godric's Hollow.

[Low-fi Boy]

And Harry visiting his parents graves ... should be a very emotional scene

[Dragonzair]

you all should read silverwing's idea on snape, on the other thread.
Snape is probably still a good guy, and as someone mentioned, Snape had to kill Dumbledore due to the vow. And Dumbledore knew this as well. Which makes me believe that Dumbledore was actually persuading Snape to kill him.
And on TO's prediction, that would be real sad, man. My brother also reckons that Harry is a horcrux... hope that's not true.
I just wish that Ollivander won't get killed...it's getting depressing how alot of old faces are getting kidnapped, killed or taken captivity of. Percy is a prat, period.
I also agree on Regalus being R.A.B...it fits, he calls Voldemort the dark lord, also it states that he would be dead by the time Voldy reads it. And we do know that Regalus is now dead.
Another thing i'd like to mention, is how JKR puts up the weirdest...pairings...:blink i understand Tonks/Lupin, i mean, she must have been reading alot of fanfics, but..Filch/Pince? BUAHAHHAAH! :rofl that cracked me up then, and still does now!
TO: about Dumbledore knowing about the vow even if Snape never told him. That's highly possible. As we've known before, Dumbledore has magic which does not even need a wand..although so does many..but whatever
Like in the first book, he was able to find out that Harry had been looking at the mirror and all those stuff...so, Dumbledore posseses some kind of magic which makes Voldy soo afraid of him.
And yes, Harry visiting the grave will most definitely be an emotional scene.
BTW, any thoughts on the last page of the book? JKR had said, a very long time ago, that the very last word would be scar... :blink

[Pods]

I am wholly convinced Snape was a double agent, and is still working for Voldemort and the Death Eaters. This opinion is supported by the interview with JKR by the mugglenet guy. The interview can be found here: http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview.shtml

MA: OK, big big big book six question. Is Snape evil?

JKR: [Almost laughing] Well, you've read the book, what do you think?

ES: She's trying to make you say it categorically.

MA: Well, there are conspiracy theorists, and there are people who will claim -

JKR: Cling to some desperate hope [laughter] -

So JKR has basically stated that people who believe Snape is still good are grasping at straws. Near the end, when Draco and Snape were running across the grounds, Harry shot a stupefy at Snape, who turned around, told Draco to run and began to duel Harry. Nobody was there, besides maybe Hagrid, a member of the order. Why why why why would Snape have hit Harry, after scoffing at the fact that he himself was the Half Blood prince. In addition, Dumbledore was the leader of the order of the phoenix...it kind of seems farfetched for someone to say, "oh yeah snape was keeping the act up, so he had to kill dumbeldore." so far, all the order characters have been noble, sacrificing themselves for others; sirius died for harry etc. what i'm trying to say is, had snape been good, he would have surely sacrificed himself for dumbledore (break his unbreakable vow). I'm thus very sure of snape's betrayal.

More to come later

[sik4rilz]

That's what I'm saying. Harry will die. =/

Hopefully I'm wrong though, I don't want him to be.
y would he die though? theres no reason he should die to be made a horcrux. if he DOES die then V will be all powerfull. and i have another theory. if V has to kill harry personaly? doesnt that mean that he is invinsible to anything else?

[Kno7]

Im agreeing with you pods. I find it irrelevant for snape to kill dumbledore for his own sake. I mean comeon.
Snape had no choice to agree to the unbreakable vow. BUT, he could have thought out a plan, to kill as many death eaters he could before he would need to help draco, then turn on him and die( because of the vow), sacrifising himself in a honorable way for the order.
(parenthesis: remember in PoA, how wormtail was afraid of V, saying that he would be killed by V if he didnt tell him the secret? Well sirius told him: then you should have died for your friends..wait I'll get the exact words..
"then you should have died!' roared sirus,"died rather than betray your friends, as we would have done for you!"
Words of a wise and honorable man, not like that snape coward.)


Now this is only my opinion, because I believe snape's life is worth much less than dumbledore's. This is unless snape plays a HUGE part in the battle of harry vs V. Either than that I would dumbledore's death would be useless.

[TenshiOni]

y would he die though? theres no reason he should die to be made a horcrux. if he DOES die then V will be all powerfull. and i have another theory. if V has to kill harry personaly? doesnt that mean that he is invinsible to anything else?

Well, if Harry was a Horcrux, he'd have to die because in order to kill Voldemort, all Horcruxes must be destroyed.

If Harry dies, someone else will kill Voldemort (doubtful), or more likely, they'll go out killing each other.

But keep in mind that I don't want Harry to be a Horcrux. Just saying it's possible. Hopefully I'm wrong though.

[SamuraiSoul]

Well, if Harry was a Horcrux, he'd have to die because in order to kill Voldemort, all Horcruxes must be destroyed.

If Harry dies, someone else will kill Voldemort (doubtful), or more likely, they'll go out killing each other.

But keep in mind that I don't want Harry to be a Horcrux. Just saying it's possible. Hopefully I'm wrong though.

To be a Horcrux himself, Harry would need to a) be dead, and b) it would need Voldemort to impart a piece of his soul into Harry.

Seing as how the curse intended to kill Harry backfired, I doubt Voldemort had the opportunity to implant a part of his soul into Harry.

[RGZ_ReGZ]

To be a Horcrux himself, Harry would need to a) be dead, and b) it would need Voldemort to impart a piece of his soul into Harry.

Seing as how the curse intended to kill Harry backfired, I doubt Voldemort had the opportunity to implant a part of his soul into Harry.

Actually no. Nagini is a horcrux, and is VERY ALIVE. It don't require the object to be dead; it just require the dark wizard to do a deliberate murder before he can store his soul into an object.

[Nakor]

im not a fan at all of the harry is a horcrux theory. that would mean at the end, they either kill themselves or harry kills voldemort then he kills himself. i really don't think at the end of a childrens book, the main character will kill himself, even if it is for the common good.

the only way i can see snape killing dumbledore to get closer to voldemort, is that dumbledore told him specifically to do anything to stay close to voldemort and keep his unbreakable vow.

[sik4rilz]

Actually no. Nagini is a horcrux, and is VERY ALIVE. It don't require the object to be dead; it just require the dark wizard to do a deliberate murder before he can store his soul into an object.

we don't know if nagini is a horcrux. and i dont think that harry is a horcrux because the person he killed before he got to harry was his mom. and V's soul couldn't possibly survive harry's body. his mom's blood would've drove it out.

[mary no jutsu]

we don't know if nagini is a horcrux. and i dont think that harry is a horcrux because the person he killed before he got to harry was his mom. and V's soul couldn't possibly survive harry's body. his mom's blood would've drove it out.yeah thats true and theres also the fact that when voldemort was going to kill harry lilly was trying to protect him and voldemort said go away you don't have to die. well something along those lines i'll try and look for that qoute. so he wasn't planning to make harry a horcrux cause then he would need to kill someone. unless like the sacrifice for the horcrux was james but then when voldemort was going to get harry the way he wanted to fight james wasn't like it was sacrificial just a 'get away your not the one i wanna kill and if you dont then i'll just kill you' type way.

[TenshiOni]

we don't know if nagini is a horcrux. and i dont think that harry is a horcrux because the person he killed before he got to harry was his mom. and V's soul couldn't possibly survive harry's body. his mom's blood would've drove it out.

Dumbledore said she was a Horcrux...

Unless you're implying that Dumbledore is wrong and Harry now has to look for 5 Horcruxes, further delaying the actual Harry vs. Voldemort in Book 7. =/

[Mangekyou_Master]

It sucked that Dumbledore died. But I don't know if Snape's evil or not because maybe Dumbledore asked him to kill him (when they were arguing in the forest about Snape doing something, Dumbledore could have been asking him to kill him and make it so Malfoy wouldn't have to cause it seems that Malfoy might actually become a good guy.) Or Snape could be incredibly evil and have been Voldy's lap dog for 16 years. And if the reason for Dumbledore believing Snape was as weak as we are lead to believe then Snape is evil. When I read the first few chapters of the sixth book I was wondering exactly which side Snape was on. And the Ravenclaw or Griffindor Hocrux. It could be Harry Potter for the hocrux of Griffindor (only a true Griffindor could pull the sword from the sorting hat) but I don't think that'll be the final hocrux because Voldermort probably didn't go to Godrics Hollow to gain a hocrux but to get rid of a potential threat. So I'm leaning toward a Ravenclaw hocrux but have no idea what it could possibly be. The only thing from Ravenclaw that I remember is Cho Chang and I doubt she is a hocrux. So does anyone else know of possible Ravenclaw hocruxes?

[SamuraiSoul]

Actually no. Nagini is a horcrux, and is VERY ALIVE. It don't require the object to be dead; it just require the dark wizard to do a deliberate murder before he can store his soul into an object.

A snake is a bit different from a human being, but you do have a point there. However, my second point still stands. I believe that if Voldemort wanted Harry to be a horcrux, he would need to focus to put a part of his soul in Harry. As we know, the backfire of the Avada Kedavra shocked Voldemort. I doubt he had the time to impart a piece of his soul in Harry.

[Luffy2692]

could quirrel have possibly been a horcrux dumbledore looked over? also, if the person losses their soul in the form they're currently in, do they kind of reincarnate? if so, this could prove quirrel as a horcrux. i doubt this is anywhere near right, just a thought

harry as a horcrux, very good idea. i thinks its kinda unlikely though. wouldnt that mean that voldemort would kinda be in control of harry? also, when he needed a body, wouldnt voldemort just have used harrys? why would voldemort want to kill his own soul too? too many things point this theory away. also, i think that is harry were a horcrux, he wouldnt have the only power voldemort doesnt: love.

i think bill as a werewolf might play a big part of the story. als, lupin and tonks will probably get together. i dunno. JKR always does seem to surprise us...

[sik4rilz]

Dumbledore said she was a Horcrux...

Unless you're implying that Dumbledore is wrong and Harry now has to look for 5 Horcruxes, further delaying the actual Harry vs. Voldemort in Book 7. =/

that's EXACTLY wut i'm sayin. there is no conformation that nagini is a horcrux. there's a 90% possibilty she is, but DD could be wrong again.

[Shishou]

Horcrux...

A quick question, did they say how he revives from one? When he does revive from it, doesn't that piece of his soul leave the Horcrux?

Or does he take over or destroy whatever he comes out of? Cause if he simply takes his soul out of it's container and is alive again...


Then Harry could finish Voldemort off, and then from himself, Voldemort is alive again, one last time. But Harry loses all that he ever gained from Voldemort, such as talking to snakes, showing that he could only do this, because of Voldemort's spirit being in him.


So in turn, it becomes Voldemort vs. Harry again, for the final showdown.

[GodofDeath]

wats gonna happen to malfoy the crybaby lol?
in which book did they mention godrics hollow before book 6? cuz i was like huh when they said that.

what are the remaining horcruxes??????????????(only ones i can remember)
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[Erkekjetter]

wats gonna happen to malfoy the crybaby lol?
in which book did they mention godrics hollow before book 6? cuz i was like huh when they said that.

what are the remaining horcruxes??????????????(only ones i can remember)
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Im pretty sure it was mentioned in the first book.

[Nakor]

what are the remaining horcruxes??????????????(only ones i can remember)
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nagini(sp?)-voldemorts snake
something of either ravenclaws or griffendores?

plus the two you said

[Luffy2692]

what if snape were deliberately under the imperius curse by voldemort, who in turn is the true half blood prince? since snape said "how dare you use my own spell against me!?" couldnt this have been voldemoert truly saying it? if not, then maybe dumbledore was aware of snape and draco's situation and made snape have a unbreakable vow with himself that no matter what, if snape had to, he would kill dumbledore.

so many possibilities... and we have to wait a few more years too!

[Dragonzair]

guys...i have no idea where to post this, but i found in somewhere...

its hilarious!!
it's sirius!! :rofl

http://persephone.nu/711/will.GIF

here's some more i found:
http://persephone.nu/711/tonks.GIF

http://persephone.nu/711/halloween.GIF

[sik4rilz]

guys...i have no idea where to post this, but i found in somewhere...

its hilarious!!
it's sirius!! :rofl

http://persephone.nu/711/will.GIF

here's some more i found:
http://persephone.nu/711/tonks.GIF

http://persephone.nu/711/halloween.GIF

OH CRAP THOSE A FUNNY!..

[Nakor]

guys...i have no idea where to post this, but i found in somewhere...

its hilarious!!
it's sirius!! :rofl

http://persephone.nu/711/will.GIF

here's some more i found:
http://persephone.nu/711/tonks.GIF

http://persephone.nu/711/halloween.GIF
yes those are quite funny...the first two are the best i think.

[Dragonzair]

here's the original site:
http://persephone.nu/711

[Anko-san]

In chapter two, Snape made the Unbreakable Vow with Draco's mother, promising that, he'd protect Draco no matter what (and that includes from Order of the Phoenix member's who might try to kill or harm Draco if they catch him pointing a wand at Dumbledore) and that, if Draco was unable to carry out the murder, that he'd do it for him. Snape had no choice in the matter.

IMO, when Snape realized that he had no choice but to make the vow with Malfoy's mom and Beatrix in order not to blow his cover, he realized that he was killing himself as surely he didn't believe that the great Dumbledore would be caught defenseless against a 16 teen-year-old (remember, Draco's mom was worried about this very thing, a teenager vs. the strongest wizard living), meaning, by agreeing to the Unbreakable Vow, Snape was hoping that Dumbledore would kill him if need be. By making the Vow, Snape was sacrificing himself to save Draco, who if he didn't help, he would've surely been killed along with his father and mother. But as we all know, there is no way Dumbledore would kill Snape, so in the end, Dumbledore realized (i'm sure he realized Snape was under a Unbreakable Vow) that he'd have to sacrifice himself to save Snape.

Snape isn't evil. Now, that the Unbreakable Vow is over, Snape must be filled with deep pain for having killed Dumbledore. But also, he can't reveal that he's still on the Order of the Phoenix's side. I mean, he just proved extreme loyalty to Voldemort by killing the only wizard he ever feared. It'd be stupid to yell out now, "HA! Got ya, Dark Lord! I'm really a good guy!". He'd be killed. So now, Snape has to play it evil. Until, of course, the time is right...then, I bet he'll help Harry in the final battle against Voldemort and his Death Eaters.

This, is all my opinion, and prediction.

And as for the Harry being a Horcrux thing, I just threw out that prediction as it sounds like something Rowling would do. I dunno, maybe when Voldemort gave Harry his scar, transferring many of his powers unto Harry, he unintentionally made one more Horcrux than planned? So basically, I'm saying, maybe Voldemort made 7 Horcruxes, instead of 6, but he doesn't know it.

EDIT: Damn, so many typos...I think i fixed them all. X_X

Thanks for reading my mind, reps ^^
(I have a new sig... so sad ;_;)

[Pods]

First, of all, the unbreakable vow is not over. Snape is still obligated to protect Draco from harm...just because Draco couldn't fulfill one task and Snape did it for him doesn't mean that the vow is over. snape is still obligated to help Draco, probably something that's going to come into play in book 7.

Again, I point people to the fight on the grounds. there were the large blond death eaters with snape and draco running a little ahead of them. Harry tried to stupefy Snape, it missed, Snape told Draco to run while Snape dueled Harry. The blond and large death eaters got in on the fight but they eventually left. So who was on the grounds then? Harry (loyal to the order), Hagrid (loyal to the order), and Snape (loyal to the order??). It was only these 3 there, Harry firing sectusempra and crucio at snape, who casually blocked them, taunting harry. The death eaters and draco had apparated. There was nobody there to witness Snape stop firing hexes. Yet he cursed Harry throwing him backwards, and he ran off and apparated. don't give me some crap about how, oh yeah, people would have looked out the windows and been like, "omfg, snape is good." He had plenty of time that night to stop trying to hurt Harry and he didn't. No schoolboy grudge would have caused snape to hurt the boy that the order needed for success. Snape is thus evil through and through.

Let's say Arthur Weasely was the double agent working for dumbledore. can you see him shouting avada kedavara at dumbledore? do you really believe that anyone in the order would have killed their leader, their hope, the one that is most important to them just like that?

Snape is definitely the half blood prince, remember eileen prince marries tobias snape?
I saw the theory that one of the horcruzes was riddle's old trophy for special services to the school after all, he did like to collect trophies. something back at the orphanage? My guess is that harry will have already recovered 2 of them at least at book 7 start.
lol, about the last word being scar, i always thought it was going to be, "and he had escaped with nothing more than a scar" or something.

I believe Harry will definitely return to Hogwarts for:
the sorting hat
Fawkes
The pensieve
Dumbledore's portrait

[SoulTaker540]

Snape is evil JKR had an interview on muggle.net and pretty much confirmed that Snape was evil by bassically saying it was pulling at straws for him to be good.

Snape is the half-blood prince because JKR stated it's not Harry nor is it Voldemort.

To do an Unforgivable Curse you have to mean it so when Snape killed Dumbledore he needed to mean it in order to do it.Those are Bellatrix's words to Harry when he tried to crucio her he needed to mean it.So if Dumbledore is dead Snape did it.SNAPE IS EVIL

[metronomy]

Indeed; after reading the mugglenet interview, I can't heelp but feel Snape is evil, it also seems that R.A.B is definatly Regulus Black.

Looks like were going to find out more about Duumbledore this book, so yeay.

[Tenderfoot]

This aint a prediction but a thought. Since Dumbledore is gone, inorder for Harry to get stronger, as in to at least somehow reach the level of Dumbledore, Snape or Voldemort he might probably need to go back to Hogwarts. Mainly and probably only for the room of requirment. Since this time he requires wizardry growth.
As for the order, i wonder if it still will be alive as in active, taking in account that, Dumbledore who was the leader is gone, and the Pheonix itself seems to be gone, unless somehow Harry ends up with a phoenix.
I'm also curious wether the DA will once again appear, but this time including adult experienced magicians etc.

[Low-fi Boy]

I'd love the DA to come back, I'm sure Neville and Luna would, too. But it seems the next book's heavily focusing on events outside of Hogwarts, I doubt it would happen.

[metronomy]

I can see perhaps the DA and the Order Of Phoenix joining together.

Ron Vs Malfoy in the future?

[Tenderfoot]

Not sure if i must start a new thread for this, however since it got something to with predictions, no need is there ^^ Anyway someone wanna predict how he/she thinks Harry will get stronger or become a much more powerful wizard. My thoughts are as below:
1. Room of requirement:
All he needs to do is think of what he wants, which would in this case things to help him get stronger. They used this as the DA but this time i guess he will use it with Hermione (sp) and Ron. Which would mean they'll concentrate on getting themselves on getting stronger with or taking in account to guide each other on theri individual strengths. In the room they'll probably be loads of Defence Againts the Dark Arts books etc..
2. Members of the Order: There is a possebility that on the summer holiday before or after Billy's wedding, if it occurs, he (Harry) and maybe Ron and Hermione (sp) might get some tutoring from members of the order eg..McGonagle (sp..sorry about this) might give them more in depth lessons of transifugaration (sp) in depth.
3. George and Fred: Harry might get some gadgets here ^^
4. Dumbledore's Potrait: Not too sure about this one, but it might be some help.

[mary no jutsu]

harry as a horcrux, very good idea. i thinks its kinda unlikely though. wouldnt that mean that voldemort would kinda be in control of harry? also, when he needed a body, wouldnt voldemort just have used harrys? why would voldemort want to kill his own soul too? well he was incontrol of harry once. when they were at the ministry and voldemort was fighting dumbledore. and then he went inside harry and he was all like 'if death is nothing, kill me now dumbledore' .

[Nakor]

i think in the seventh book, malfoy might end up turning to the good side at the very end. like helping harry in some way or sacrificing himself for harry in some way. its hard for me to see malfoy actually killing someone or being totally evil. especially since he hesitated so much with dumbledore there.

[Pods]

Interview with JKR, the mirrors at teh end of book 5 remember, she did say they would play an important role

A: R.A.B.

JKR: Ohhh, good.

[All laugh.]

JKR: No, I'm glad! Yes?

MA: Can we figure out who he is, from what we know so far?

[Note: JKR has adopted slightly evil look here]

JKR: Do you have a theory?

MA: We've come up with Regulus Black.

JKR: Have you now?

MA: Uh-oh.

[Laughter.]

JKR: Well, I think that would be, um, a fine guess.

MA: And perhaps, being Sirius’s brother, he had another mirror –

JKR: [drums fingers on soda can]

MA: Does he have the other mirror, or Sirius’s mirror —

JKR: I have no comment at all on that mirror. That mirror is not on the table. [Laughter from all; Jo's is maniacal.]

[Nakor]

^^ maybe thats how harry finds about about regalus and how he ends up meeting him

[zigart]

Correct me if I,m wrong, but isn't Regulas dead? Killed for deserting Voldemort?

[Erkekjetter]

Yeah, he's dead.

[GodofDeath]

he is the only one with r and b as initial and that is all we can guess. no one knows his mission was anyways

i think harry will if he meets snapey make some long speach like lupin and sirius about how he shoulda died when snape pleads that he had to save his life

[Pods]

yes, regulus is dead...he refused his duty, and under voldemort you can't do that. so that fits perfectly with him taking the real locket horcrux. But I guess that debunks the theory of him having the second mirror.

So who has the second mirror? Mundungus, who was taking all of harry' stuff? dung was surprisingly absent in book 6, maybe he will come into play later?

As someone else pointed out, wormtail may come to harry's aid. he owes harry big time, and the way that he was being treated by snape would be a cause for rebellion. wormtail was listening at the door or trying to listen to the conversation with snape,bella, and narcissa...yea wormtail

Draco coming to harry's aid? i don't think so, there's not enough evidence for that right now...

[Nakor]

ah i can't believe i forgot he was dead. i guess reading the interview wiht jkr about the second mirror made me think he was alive.

i have faith in malfoy. i think he will choose good over evil in the end.

its also just like jkr in some sense. we thought snape was good because dumbledore was saying he trusts him entirely. we figured malfoy would be evil since his father and mother are death eaters. but it seems to be pointing that snape was actaully evil and spying on dumbledore, so it might turn out that malfoy will end up being good in the end.

[4ghost]

Never thought of Harry as a Horucrux before, but if it is true perhaps Voldemort made Harry one of his Horucrux as insurance before he tried to kill him. Maybe the first time or that time in the Goblet of Fire.

It could be possible that Voldemort chose Harry because the Potter bloodline reaches back to Gryfindor like Voldemorts reaches back to Slytherin. After all the Horucrux's for Voldemort must be significant. I remember Dumbledor saying only a true Gryfindor could pull that sword from the hat or something like that. Never clarified whether it was true as in blood or true as in the house he was in. On top of that Gryfindor and Slytherin were said to be friends.

I also feel that the argument that Dumbledore and Snape had was about Dumbledore's request of Snape to fulfill the Unbreakable Vow even if it meant Dumbledore's own death. The pleading Dumbledore was likely not pleading for his life, but for Snape to fulfill his earlier request that Snape considered to be him asking too much.

[yo586]

I hope, in the end, Harry shows abilities on par with those of at least Snape.

If Rowling pulls a "love is triumphant" on us, and has Harry use some great spell that uses his full loving soul to end Voldemorte, I'd be very sad. But that wouldn't be a surprise to me. Rowling never was a fan of fantasy or the fights. In her interview with Time magazine they say she is much more interested in writing about love and all that. So he could win based upon this.

And I had thought of Harry as a Horcrux, I think it would be a great way to end the story. But a part of me wants it to end happily with Harry and Ginny at the end.

[Luffy2692]

maybe the horcrux itself isnt harry, but harry's scar. didnt everyone say that voldemort grew weaker after that night when he tried to kill harry? and since JKR said a while back that the 7th book would end with the word 'scar' it could go like this: "as they walked away, harry put his hand on his forehead where there had once been his scar."

[sik4rilz]

WE JUST DON'T KNOW!...jkr will ALWAYS fool us. no matter wut we do. i learned this the hard way and if we say snape is bad..then he is good. (or dead) if draco is bad. then he will become good. and harry won't die..because he most likely will.

[zigart]

WE JUST DON'T KNOW!...jkr will ALWAYS fool us. no matter wut we do. i learned this the hard way and if we say snape is bad..then he is good. (or dead) if draco is bad. then he will become good. and harry won't die..because he most likely will.

That's what I was thinking.

[Chopstickx]

hmm, i dont know if anyone else has mentioned this yet, but the book 5, when they were cleaning up Grimauld Place (sp?) they stumbled upon a locket that none of them could open.

maybe that locket will play a large role in book 7? it would make sense being kept in the Blacks' house if it really was Regulus who wrote the fake horcrux thing as R.A.B. and plus, you know how J.K Rowling likes to make small details play bigger parts later.

[Ryoko]

hmm, i dont know if anyone else has mentioned this yet, but the book 5, when they were cleaning up Grimauld Place (sp?) they stumbled upon a locket that none of them could open.

maybe that locket will play a large role in book 7? it would make sense being kept in the Blacks' house if it really was Regulus who wrote the fake horcrux thing as R.A.B. and plus, you know how J.K Rowling likes to make small details play bigger parts later.

I don't remember that locket. Can you give me a page number or something?

[RGZ_ReGZ]

May be it will be kinda like Naruto—Harry sealed Voldemort into him, then by some time magic revert him into a baby. (okay, so it's a nasty joke, but I doubt JKR read manga or watch anime)

[Pods]

excellent point about that locket they couldn't open, i almost forgot about it. I looked it up earlier, it's in the early chapters, when they are cleaning doxies etc out of the house. the locket that won't open is mentioned very briefly. it's before harry goes to hogwarts

[GodofDeath]

i doubt harry is a horcrux
voldemort needs to kill to split so he tried to kill and failed so the next person he coulda possibly kill was bertha jokins then he probally did the thing where he's in nagini

[Chopstickx]

I don't remember that locket. Can you give me a page number or something?
chp. 6, pg. 116, bottom :O

it was just a small mention, but it could play a larger role in book 7 maybe?

[Ryoko]

chp. 6, pg. 116, bottom :O

Thanks. :D

Oooh. That locket seems suspicious. It could be the Horcrux!

[MikaeruNoJutsu]

I don't know if anyone has already mentioned this, however I do think Snape is going to betray Voldermort. When have we ever heard of Dumbledore doing anything so weak as appealing for his life... It is completely out of character for him, He would always talk about how old he was... And sense he had 100% faith in Harry (+Hermione and Ron, or else he wouldn't have told Harry he should keep them informed) ability to defeat Voldermort without himNow if he was really ordering Snape to kill him than the desperation in his voice would make total sense,,, He knew all about the vow, and most likely knew that if he didn't die than Draco would most likely die and something on a grander scale...

I realized this once I got over the shock of the sixth book's ending... And stopped hating Snape with everything inside me devoted to HP... I hope no one else has said this...

Would never allow such a character get killed in such a way... Cedric got a better death! This is the only answer I can come up with... Because those few others, I do believe he is gone for good.

What about all of them going back to Godric Hollow? Now that sounds intresting,

Here are my guesses at what some of the horcuxes could be:

1. The yo-yo: You ever know, that was the object that seemed the most significant in that memory set... It might also repersent the moment that we found out that he was special... This one I am also sure of though...
2. Harry's Baby Craddle: You just never know with that woman these days...
3. Harry of course

You know, why is the curse didn't kill Voldermort when it was repelled off of Harry? Instead he became a wondering spirit or something? I haven't read the first few books in a while... What does this mean? The spell repelled back at him, so... Not only Harry lived that night in Godric Hollow... But Voldermort survivied as well.... We know how Harry did it... And if love is the ONLY way (wasn't Dumbledore making this very a promoment fact throughout the whole series)... And Rowling was saying something bout it being her choice to die for her baby that caused the curse to repel back at him.... How did he do it?

[Pods]

Well we have another person with confidence in Snape...addressing the above's point that Dumbledore never would have pleaded for his own life...Dumbledore trusted snape completely, and to see someone you trust, who you see as a friend betray you, is horrible. the case could be made that dumbledore was not pleading for his life, but pleading for it not to be true that snape had betrayed him. Dumbledore knew how important he was to the order, harry needed him, he needed to destroy the horcrux that he had just recovered (or thought he had) of course he was pleading for himself not to go. As someone else pointed out, unforgivable curses need to have feeling, you need to really mean it, hence snape meant to kill dumbledore. In her interview with the mugglenet and leaky cauldron dudes, JKR hinted that people who are still pro snape are grasping at straws. And finally, Snape was alone with Harry and Hagrid that night, and he still hexed harry. I honestly don't understand how snape can be good still.

On a slightly different note, the final part of the interview is out, I have a few questions about the refernces in it, maybe you guys can help me. full interview is here:http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview3.shtml

interesting points:
It’s the one about Grindelwald, which I’m sure you’ve been gearing up for us to ask.

JKR: Uh huh.

ES: Clearly -

JKR: Come on then, remind me. Is he dead?

ES: Yeah, is he dead?

JKR: Yeah, he is.

ES: Is he important?

JKR: [regretful] Ohhh...

ES: You don’t have to answer but can you give us some backstory on him?

JKR: I'm going to tell you as much as I told someone earlier who asked me. You know Owen who won the [UK television] competition to interview me? He asked about Grindelwald [pronounced "Grindelvald" HMM…]. He said, “Is it coincidence that he died in 1945,” and I said no. It amuses me to make allusions to things that were happening in the Muggle world, so my feeling would be that while there's a global Muggle war going on, there's also a global wizarding war going on.

ES: Does he have any connection to --

JKR: I have no comment to make on that subject.

Who is grindewald????

MA: Yeah. Have you discovered the two missing Gryffindor students?

JKR: [Covers eyes] Ohh! [Frustrated.] I was going to go and get that for you, I'm sorry I haven't got it, I'll put it on my site.
Two missing students, wtf?


MA: Does she have a larger importance; the Tom Riddle stufff, being the seventh girl —

JKR: The backstory with Ginny was, she was the first girl to arrive in the Weasley family in generations, but there's that old tradition of the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter and a seventh son of a seventh son, so that's why she's the seventh, because she is a gifted witch. I think you get hints of that, because she does some pretty impressive stuff here and there, and you'll see that again.

The number seven comes up again, seven is the most powerful wizarding number, seven horcruxes, ginny is the seventh weasley (and only girl), seven books in the series, seven years at hogwarts

ES: What on earth was Aberforth Dumbledore doing with those goats?



JKR: Your guess is as good as mine! [Evil laugh!]

MA: Excellent. And Dumbledore makes a little joke about him in this one, about knowing people in bars.

JKR: Yes, absolutely. Yeah, that's right. And you of course see Aberforth very briefly.

MA: Does the gleam of triumph still have yet to make an appearance?

JKR: That's still enormously significant. And let's face it, I haven’t told you that much is enormously significant, so you can let your imaginations run free there.

ES: I think everybody realized it was significant when they read it but we didn’t see it materialize in 5 or 6.

JKR: Well, it still is.

ES:We’ve been kind of waiting for the big revelation.

JKR: Absolutely, that's for seven. That's for seven.
[B]gleam of triumph? is that the gleam of triumph that aberforth had when he foudn snape eavesdropping on sibyll and dumbledore? i don't recall a gleam of triumph

MA: Does she have a life debt to Harry from book two?

JKR: No, not really. Wormtail is different. You know, part of me would just love to explain the whole thing to you, plot of book seven, you know, I honestly would.
wormtail owes harry something. mark it down

[MikaeruNoJutsu]

Of coiurse wormtail does, Harry let him live when he we all know that he should have died... And the way he is being treated by Voldermort... Wormtail is the type to go with the stronger side... I wonder what that means...

[FitzChivalry]

Ok, to answer your question. Grindelwald was an evil wizard whom Dumbledore defeated way back in 1945.

Anyway, before i get into my theories and everything, I'd like to start out on a lighter note. Firstly, I dont think this thing with Ginny and Harry is over. There will be love in the air at Bill and Fleur's wedding and there are still lingering feelings there. Ginny's liked(most likely loved) Harry since, what was it, Chamber of Secrets. That's even before saving her life, just imagine how she felt and feels for him now after the CoS incident. And after saving her father's life and her brother's life. Since JKR is so infatuated with love and everything, I think she could at least let Harry love a girl(and win against Voldemort without dying...I'll get to that later) who loves him immensely before he goes out in search of the Horcruxes.
Plus, Harry broke it off early not becuase he didnt like(love?) her or was tired of her, but because he was afraid that Voldemort might use her to get to him. It's like the Spider-Man 2 effect. Peter says no to Mary J. because he had enemies, Mary comes running away from a wedding, of all places(just like at Bill and Fleur's wedding..**hint**), and tells Peter says 'Let someone else save your life for a change' and so on and so forth. Peter finally accepted it. If Ginny made Harry that happy then I think JKR should let Harry enjoy this a little more. So, yes, I do expect some more sparks out of Harry and Ginny before he leaves. Hell, if he can kill Voldemort without getting killed himself, then their might be wedding vows said for these 2 as well in the future.

And Ron and Hermione have stalled long enough. Just kiss, fall in love, and get it over with because they're really getting annoying with their procrastination. This unfulfilled love might get in the way of Harry's objectives too, I feel.

NOW! The real stuff.

What are the Horcruxes? Harry destroyed the diary, Dumbledore destroyed Slytherin's ring, and R.A.B. destroyed the locket so what's left? Dumbledore guess that Voldemort had Hufflepuff's cup as a horcrux, the snake Nagini, something of Ravenclaw's or Gryffindor's...and the last remaining piece was not Harry himself, which TenshiOni might have thought, but it is confirmed that it's Voldemort himself. He's not necessarily a Horcrux, but his last remaining soul remains in him. So let's recap;

Horcruxes
1. Diary(destroyed by Harry)
2. Slytherin's Ring(destroyed by Dumbledore)
3. (Slytherin's?) Locket(destroyed by "R.A.B.")
4. Voldemort's snake, Nagini.
5. Hufflepuff's Cup.
6. Something of Ravenclaw or Gryffindor's.
7. Voldemort himself.

There's 7 Horcruxes and I dont believe, for a second, that Harry is a Horcrux. Do you know what a Horcrux does or is? For a Horcrux to be made, 2 things have to happen. 1, you have to kill someone first. A sacrifice for your Horcrux. 2, have an item or (breathing?) thing ready for transfer of some of your soul into that. 3, You have to break your sould in half to do it. Think about that shit. To make his first Horcrux, Voldemort had to spit his whole soul from 100% whole in 50/50. He stored that 50/50 in on of the items and kept the other 50% of his soul. Now, he made another Horcrux. So he split his 50% soul into 25/25 and stored that 25 into something while keeping the other for himself. But he kept doing it! So he breaks his 25% soul into 12.5/12.5 and keeps that 12.5 in him while the other half of that goes into an item he picked. If you keep going, then he almost has no soul. It was said that Voldemort made 6 container's for his Horcruxes and he's the 7th. You have to have a soul to remain with a brain, alive and aware of thing around you with rational thought. So that throws people's "Harry is a Horcrux" theory out of the window. The diary's destroyed, the ring is gone, the locket is gone so, according to Dumbledore, that leaves Hufflepuff's cup, Nagini the snake, something of Ravenclaw or Gryffindor's, and Voldemort himself. To even have a chance against Voldemort, Harry has to destroy the cup, Nagini, or Ravenclaw's** or Gryffindor's. Then he can kill Voldemort.

Now the question is, will Harry survive this showdown with Voldemort? My answer is yes. Why? Here's my logic. Since Goblet of Fire I thought that either Harry or Dumbledore would have to die. If Harry lives, then Dumbledore dies and vice versa. So Dumbledore's dead. You can kill two great 'Good' characters off like that. Secondly, JKR's already killed off Lily and Jame Potter, Harry's godfather Sirius, and Harry's greatest ally off. If she kills Harry like that, after all she's made him go through, including living 11 torturous years with the Dursley's, then I would lose some respect for her. I think he lives and Voldemort dies. Plain and simple. That's not to say, though, that people wont die from the Death Eaters or good people. I think plenty of characters will be killed. I just dont think Harry's one of them...


...that's it for now. I'll get to my opinions and theories on Snape later.

**As for the Gryffindor or Ravenclaw's item that Voldemort might have. I think it's Ravenclaw's item that Voldy has because the only item Gryffindor, himself, had is in the Headmaster's office. The sword. So I think Voldy has something of Ravenclaw's.

[Pods]

another thing I'd like to throw out....is one of the horcruxes the tiara that harry put on the bust in the room of requirement to mark where he put his prince book?

JKR did say that by the end of the first week, someone who ahs reread the book will dorrectly identify a horcrux, so clues are definitely in HBP.

[Kno7]

Well I have now been persuaded that snape is evil. for now.


Here's a though: If the unbreakable vow is not over, and malfoy turns on the good side, he could make himself a mission to aid harry in vanquishing voldemort. Therefore snape would HAVE to help draco/harry. What do you think?

JKR did say that by the end of the first week, someone who ahs reread the book will dorrectly identify a horcrux, so clues are definitely in HBP.
eeenteresting..

*goes to reread HB*

[Batman]

The Horcrux hunt is fascinating. I find that there are certain things that need to be taken into account before we jump to conclusions. I choose to be a skeptic. Generally Anything that Dumbledore has stated to be a Horcrux, whether by assumption or by knowlege, I'll hold to be true. That is my only real HP absolute, Dumbledore is right 99.99% of the time. Everything else, is just mere speculation, but I find it irksome that he is so insistent upon There being somthing from each of the founders. There simply aren't enough soul fragments left. Dumbledore has stated that he too can be wrong, and when he is wrong it is spectacuarly so. I belive this might be one of those times. There is a great deal of strength in solitude and secrecy, but there are comparible amount of weaknesses as well.

JK said that she thinks that someone will have figured out by next week what one of the Horcruxes is. This leads me to believe that there are two that we don't know about. I don't believe the Hufflepuff cup is one of them. I just don't. In trying to think like Voldemort, I find it odd that he would use somthing which I don't think he would consider worthy as holding a piece of his precious soul. Would Voldemort really respect a Hufflepuff, even if it was a founder? I don't belive so. He might take something that is thiers to prove his superiority of his feeling of beloning to the elite, but I don't see him as putting his soul into somthing like that, but This is only my guess. If it is in the cup than there is only one that we don't know about, but let's say that it's not in the cup for now. I think that we were introduced to a different Horcrux in each book.

Book 2 - Riddles Diary (Destroyed)

Book 4 - Nagini (Alive)

Book 5 - Slytherin's Locket (Either within Gimmauld Place or stolen by Mundungus)

Book 6 - Slytherin's Ring (Destroyed)

In book seven, we need not be introduced to one because of the piece Voldemort's soul that is left within him, but I believe that if we are to inquire what the other two are, we need to re-read books 1 and 3. However if the hufflepuff cup is one of them, there will probably be no mention of a Horcrux in book3 as Voldemort is mysteriously absent in that book.

I've only have a chance to read book 1, and here's my theory. All that we know about a horcrux is that in order for one to be made your soul must be split. In order to split your soul, you must kill somebody. Upon killing them you can store the fragmented piece of your soul within an object. It is also apparent that you can store that fragment within a creature. It is my belief that you can also store that fragment within a concept, idea, or saying.

I belive that one of the Horcruxes is the phrase "You-Know-Who" or "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named". It may not be in the exact wording, but if it were to reside in the idea of a name still feared to be spoken, even after the unspoken one is presumed dead, than it would be the most difficult to destroy. If this were the case, how would one go about destroying it? There would have to be enough people willing to speak his name out loud to cause a fissure in the spell. Once there is some relief of this burden, others will be inspired to say his name, and that could cause the destruction of that fragment.

Imagine Harry returning to Hogwarts in it's most dangerous time and leading the general school assembly in a chant of "Voldemort. . . Voldemort. . . " The cataclysmic effect might make Voldemort human enough to be Tom Riddle once again.

Why do I belive this, because this was the first thing that we learned about Voldemort. In that first chapter, of that first book, the first thing that we realize from McGonagall is that she dares not utter the name of the Dark Lord. Dumbledore on the other hand tells her, a grown woman, that there is no need for all of this You-Know-Who nonsense. He has always felt that there was no reason not to call him by his propper name, Voldemort. I find it very Ironic that convincing others to use his name is not even somthing Dumbledore could do. Other wizards saw Dumbledore as too iconic, and someone whom seems to have earned the right not to fear him. Doesn't it strike you as odd that people are so terrified of him that they don't speak his name? Everybody is that scared of him. Doesn't it strike you as odd that NOBODY says his name out loud EVER? Well I belive that this is so because it's part of the Horcrux. Harry, whom has the most right to fear saying his name, is the only one whom can convince the general population to do so as well.

For those whom are so grounded in the thought that the Horcrux has to be a tangible object, I ask you for the evidence that proves that it has to be. I say to suspend your belief of what is and isn't possible. Afterall this is a world of Magic.

[Batman]

another thing I'd like to throw out....is one of the horcruxes the tiara that harry put on the bust in the room of requirement to mark where he put his prince book?

JKR did say that by the end of the first week, someone who ahs reread the book will dorrectly identify a horcrux, so clues are definitely in HBP.

Actually JKR said "JKR: Well, I'm prepared to bet you now, that at least before the week is out, at least one of the Horcruxes will have been correctly identified by careful re-readers of the books." So the clue could be in any of them.

[FitzChivalry]

Firstly, Batman, great quote in your sig. Batman is my favorite super hero.


Anyways, the confirmed ones are the locket, diary and ring. It's weird....she always throws a curveball in very important events.... Damn, I sure dont feel like reading every other book for a third time, though. I'd be prepared to give some educated guesses but the hell with it.....I'm too full to write.

[maddymappo]

We already know that Harry shares some characteristics with the Dark Lord, the ability to speak parsel tongue and their wands each contain a feather from the same phoenix. We also know, that Voldemort is a powerful wizard (second only to Dumbledore until his death) and yet, strangely he has never been able to kill Harry. When Harry was a baby, Lilly sacraficed her life for her son's. At this point, Voldemort's soul was already split into seven pieces. I believe that we will find that in doing this hideous act, his weak little snip of a soul, tore apart once more and a piece flew into Harry. Voldemort cannot kill Harry because he cannot kill himself. However, although his soul is weak, Dumbledore reminds Harry that the Dark Lord's magical powers remain great. Harry will find a way to drain out the magic powers of Voldemort and ultimately break with the prophesy because in the end he will not be able to kill the pathetic golem like creature that he has become. (Remember, Dumbledore also advises Harry he is not bound by the prophecy, and that it was Voldemort's belief and acting out of the prophecy which empowered it and made it real ). Drained of any magic force, Voldemort will end up a shrivelled thing like the Syble in ancient Greek mythology who when granted a wish, asked for immortality and forgot to ask for eternal youth. The gods took pity on her and turned her into a grass hopper. So I should not be surprised if Voldemort ends up transfigured into a bug too). But here's the rub!! at the same time that the Dark Lord's powers are drained, so will be Harry's. Harry Potter will leave the world of wizardry and return to muggledom. Perhaps not forever, but who knows?

[Pods]

Ok...one I re-read some of book 4, and I have come to the conclusion that one of the horcruxes is...voldemort's father's grave This might be the one that he is using to live right now, seeing as he got reborn in the graveyard. But it makes sense, voldemort wanted to learn more about his father, he loved mementos of stuff he did (he killed his dad) and Harry is now going to visit his parent's graves, another harry voldemort parallel.

[Nakor]

Ok...one I re-read some of book 4, and I have come to the conclusion that one of the horcruxes is...voldemort's father's grave This might be the one that he is using to live right now, seeing as he got reborn in the graveyard. But it makes sense, voldemort wanted to learn more about his father, he loved mementos of stuff he did (he killed his dad) and Harry is now going to visit his parent's graves, another harry voldemort parallel.
well if that is so, that would be quite interesting. harry wouldn't know about this one either.

[FitzChivalry]

There's also a rumor that Lily Potter could've been a Death Eater! Whether it's Harry the Horcrux or Lily the Death Eater i would lose some level of respect for JKR.

[Nakor]

how could lily be a death eater? i think i've heard that before though, it just really doesn't make much sense at all.

[sik4rilz]

She Is Not A Death Eater...

[Alálà]

Just like the previous books... JKR has fascinated me with this book.

Well, let me go one some of my own thoughts. In the past books, I always had it in the back of my head that Snape was evil/bad guy. But when I got to reading Half-Blood Prince, I was convinced he was a good guy. Dumbledore's trust in him affected me as it did with the other staff members and order of the phoenix. But then, the betrayal. How dreadful. It seems to me that this will be HUGE conflict within Harry in the last book. Harry will deeply question the power of love. He has already made it clear that being with Ginny (a form of love) would be a weakness to him. And a bit afterwards, he figured to leave Hogwarts (home=love) and his closest friends. Even in front of Dumbledore's face Harry considered love to be a weak asset. And now to see Dumbledore's unwavering love (his main principle) for Snape to be the death of him. Dumbledore has always emphasized love to be an advantage... but in this case, Dumbledore's love was a weakness. Although Harry has claimed to be with Dumbledore "through and through"... he has shown significant signs to abandoning his morals and beliefs.

Snape is going to help Harry at the end. But not as many of you may interpret. Harry is going to become strong with Snape's notes in the Advanced Potion-Making book. Harry will return to Hogwarts/Room of Requirement to get it and actually study Snape's notes. With this, he will learn some significant spells. Harry has already concluded the book to be beneficial. With mastery of the shield/reflecting spell in Dumbledore's Army (defensive), Snape's notes in Advanced-Potion Making (offensive), and Fred & George's weaponry (misc.)... the last hurdle to get down would be legilimency and doing spells mentally instead of verbally. As shown with Harry's scurmish with Snape, a talented occlumens, legilimency is needed to stop anyone from predicting his moves and nonverbal spells is simply a must. Doing the latter two will rank Harry to be a most powerful wizard, indeed. Of course, any other "tricks or treats" taught by those in the Order wouldn't hurt.

Hogwarts isn't closed. As a school, yes... but as a building, no. It is possible the Ministry will attempt to use it for it's own purposes, but doubtful. Hogwarts would most likely become a refuge for any wandering and weary wizards and witches of those willing. And within the Hogwarts refuge, adults and children alike can be taught to defend themselves (given instruction by the Order and professors). Think of Xavier's Institute for all those X-Men comic book readers. It has been made clear that Hogwarts is now no safer than any other community or town. But if families were to leave their cozy homes and move into Hogwarts... it would become a firm stronghold.

I'm sure I've babbled long enough... though I am highly anticipating the conclusion of the Harry Potter series.

**Great minds think alike...
J.K. Rowling / Masashi Kishimoto
witches & wizards / ninjas = mythological subjects.
books & movies / manga & anime = basic presentation to tv presentation.
Voldemort / Orochimaru = snake oriented, superiority ambition at young age, denied hopes from Dumbledore/Sarutobi-sensei, leader of Death Eaters/Sound Village, found a way to be immortal (horcruxes/switches bodies every 3 years).
James & Lily Potter / Yondaime = (James/Yondaime) reckless at young age, talented and memorable wizards/ninja, resemblance to Harry/Naruto.
Sirius / Iruka = first father-like figure to Harry/Naruto.
Harry + Ron + Hermoine / Naruto + Sasuke + Sakura = 2 boys and 1 girl.
Dumbledore / Sarutobi (Sandiame Hokage) = wise and lovable old man, renown to be the greatest, their downfall was being over merciful to Snape/Orochimaru.
Harry Potter / Uzumaki Naruto = bears loneliness, familyless childhood.
Headmaster / Hokage = top authority figure, leader at Hogwarts/Konoha.
Portraits of past headmasters / sculptures of past hokages = memorbilia(sp?) of past leaders.
McGonagall / Tsunade = a woman to be the next headmaster/hokage after the fall of their predecessor.
.... could possibly be more.**

[Pods]

lol sanyos i love your sig, two of my threee favorite authors and their parallels :)

anyways...i have no time right now, but who wants to bet that at the end it's going to be like harry fighting voldemort and ron and hermione and ginny in the background, and then voldemort fires a hex at herm/ron/ginny and harry jumps in front and then love deflects the curse. and since harry already got rid of the horcruxes, it's gg. lol, i'm not being all that serious right now though...*goes to play starcraft*

[Nakor]

anyways...i have no time right now, but who wants to bet that at the end it's going to be like harry fighting voldemort and ron and hermione and ginny in the background, and then voldemort fires a hex at herm/ron/ginny and harry jumps in front and then love deflects the curse. and since harry already got rid of the horcruxes, it's gg. lol, i'm not being all that serious right now though...*goes to play starcraft*
i'd bet on that too. but oh god i hope it doens't happen. that would be so lame. i would be so disappointed.

[DragonHeart52]

Unlike most people here, I don't think that Snape is evil. I think that he is working as an infiltrator of Voldemort's forces and acted as he did on Dumbledore's request. Tracking down and destroying the horcruxes is obviously a very nasty business, as demonstrated by AD's blackened dead hand.

My theories: Snape is still undercover. His killing of Dumbledore was a mercy killing; I think that the potion Albus drank in the cave contained the souls of the Inferi in the lake, doubtlessly innocents sacrificed by Voldemort. The only way to take them to their final rest was if AD sacrificed himself. He was doubtlessly suffering horribly when Snape entered the turret/tower. Albus' life was fading and he was pleading with Snape to kill him; AD knew Harry would interfere, which was why he made it impossible for him to move while Harry was still under the Cloak of Invisibility.

Harry will not return to Hogwarts as a student next year, but will continue to search for the remaining Horcruxes with help from other members of the Order and information from Lucius and Snape (perhaps also forcing Kreacher and asking Dobby to assist). It is possible that the thief Mundungus will prove useful in obtaining or locating one of the cursed items or possibly had one in his possession without his knowledge. Hermione will be researcher and backup; Ron will continue as not-quite-proficient wizard but loyal friend; Ginny will appear in some important and decisive role in one of the major battles.

There will be sacrifices to destroy all the horcruxes before the final battle between Harry and Voldemort (major character death possible). Perhaps Neville Longbottom, long an alternate qualifier for the prophecy, will be the one to actually kill Voldemort.

[Giant Enemy Crab]

WAIT! Remember in Goblet of Fire when Harry finished telling DD about the graveyard and Harry thought he saw a twinkle in DD's eyes or something like that? Maybe it's because the night Voldy attacked Harry Voldy turned Harry into a Horcrux but at the end of book 4 when Wormtail took Harry's blood Voldemnort became the horcrux Harry was and Harry isn't the horcrux but Voldemort is.

[Pheonixsong]

Just a couple thoughts here as i'm just joining in on this discussion, I am wondering, there were some predicitons about book 6 of snape being a possible vampire, in book 7, that was illuded to again and my curiousity goes so far as to wonder that if snape is a vampire, perhaps snape is also a horcux which would give voldemort immortality. Just one other observation, slughorn got ahold of aragogs venom, not easy to come by.......a locket was swiped and a fake replaced, dumbledore had to drink a potion which i'm wondering if it possible aragogs venom was put into the potion causing (well i'm one for wishful thinking) effects that would allow the possibility that dumbledore is not truly dead.

[Chatulio]

im with the group who say snape is a double agent for DD.

predictions hmm..... i agree with tenshi oni theory harry is a Horcrux, its a gut feeling but he wont die. harry also need to get powered up for the final battle so im thinking somehow DD through some link gives harry all his knowledge of spells and enchantments. he learns apparition, him and ginny get it on, so do ron and hermine.

[MikaeruNoJutsu]

You know when they are mentioning the locket in Order of the Phoenix Sirius is just throwing all of that stuff away... However Ketcher is smuggeling things back to his room at the time... I wonder if that means that Ketcher has the real locket...

However all of that talk about how Sirius' family was while they are at Gremaulld place makes me really question if they would have done anything to stop Voldermort. I know that they talk about Sirius' brother wanting to back out after being given a mission, but still... That note, it seems that the person who wrote it was actively trying to stop Voldermort... I doubt that a simple change of heart would cause him to try and bring down the dark lord... Also the note says, something like (i don't have the book offhand at the moment) "I have descovered the horcruxes, and I know how to bring you down." Of course if Sirius' brother became a deatheater for the sole perpose of bringing Voldermort down this would make sense... But it just doesn't feel right... His mother favored him most, and she wouldn't have unless his view were like her own....

I would also like to point out something that I found very interesting... Dumbledore's brother was part of the first Order of the Phoenix and Moody said that that was the only time he ever saw him. I wonder what he was doing for the order that would cause him to only be seen by the other members one time. This however proves that he is of course more than just a sheep herder or whatever... Didn't JK say that he comes into play in the 7th book? Might he return to the Order to take dumbledore's place?

About Lily being a deatheater, JK as commented, on her offical site no less, about this rumor. She simply responded to this rumor with one sentence, "How dare you!?"

link: http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/rumours_view.cfm?id=5

[Pods]

Upon re reading the goblet of fire, i did see that "glimmer of triumph" after harry returned from the graveyard right after harry said that voldemort had touched him. I couldn't think of any reason for this...but homestar's theory is a possibility (that harry was a horcrux but by using harry's blood, harry is now not a horcrux) but I have no idea really, that seems like something we're not going to figure out for a while

As to snape being a vampire...i think that theory was debunked by JKR, it only got out there because in book 4 ron was like, "yeah, only if snape could become a bat" But there was that vampire at slughorn's christmas party...still, can vampires do magic? lol, somehow snape vampire doesn't seem so viable to me.

i really doubt aragog's venom could have been in the potion and i'm quite sure dumbledore is truly dead (bearded wizard mentor guy always dies and harry was released from the full body bind) but i wonder if that aragog venom scene was significant...

mikaeru no jutsu is correct about dumbledore's brother. Rowling has stated that we know basically all the characters now, and we have yet to be fully introduced to one member of the order. Logically, this is aberforth dumbledore, persecuted for doing impractical charms on a goat, the bartender of the hogs head (this was confirmed by JKR), the man who caught snape listening to dumbledore, the barman that dumbledore is friendly with, the reason why dumbledore was going to the hog's head in order to not be seen apparating, the "strange bloke" who moody says he is, and the bartender who attended dumbeldore's funeral. Oh, and he also cannot read lol I doubt he will replace dumbeldore...but he will be some kind of asset.

I look forward to learning more about aunt petunia in the seventh book. she clearly knows more about the wizarding world than we thought (see book 5), and i wonder if she will help harry somehow.

Oh yeah, and definitely, i hope hermione does like a nude spread for the daily prophet or something...when the movive rolls around, niccceee XD

[Pods]

yeah double post...sue me, i don't do it often at all, and i'm excited about harry potter lol

Here is some other stuf that was interesting:

Professor Trewlaney is looking like a real seer. She made numerous predictions that came true, "danger at the lightning struck tower," "a dark man," "lots of danger" etc. it seems that she will make predictions that actually come true now...what does that shape up to?

and also, what is teh significance of florean fortescue and ollivander being dragged off. I got some of these ideas off of the chamber of secrets forums (www.cosforums.com). Look at this scene in which bill talks about the disappearances:

"Did you hear about Florean Forescue, Remus? asked Bill, who was being plied with wine by Fleur, "The Man who ran-"

"-the ice cream place in Diagon Alley?" HArry interrupted, with an unpleasant, hollow sensation in the pit of his stomach. "He used to give me free ice creams. What's happened to him?"

"Dragged off, by the look of his place."

"Why?" asked Ron, while Mrs. Weasley pointedly glared at Bill.

"Who knows? He must've upset them somehow. He was a good man, Florean."

"Talking of Diagon Alley," said Mr. Weasley, "looks like Ollivander's gone too."

Anyone who reread POA would have known who fortescue was...not only did he give harry free sundaes back in third year, he also helped harry with his school summer work. There are two things to note. One, that he knows a crapload about wizarding history. That's why the bad side wanted him? and two, that fortescue is part of the order, and that is why he looked over harry way back in third year. There must be some significance to florean, after all, he was just an ice cream guy, right? But notice that mrs weasley glares at bill when he mentions florean. Is she just trying to shield the children from another attack, or was florean part of the order, and we all know molly doesn't think the kids should be involved in the order.

Ollivander was obviously the best wand maker in england. Since he is gone, it looks like voldemort has immobilized the good side. Now, the only wand makers left ar gregorvitch in bulgaria (made krum's wand, check GOF in chapter called "weighing of the wands" which ollivander alludes that it makes bad wands. Voldemort is definitely interested in killing the people that would improve the good side's chances (slughorn) so it makes sense for him to go after ollivander.

[AssFace]

best guess would be someone is gonna kill dumbledore....don't know why I just feel it coming.

[bobcat]

well.. i have read all six books.. haha.. i think snape is definitely a good guy. with all the death eaters surrounding dumbledore, he is dead for sure.. i think he ask snape to kill him(without opening his mouth somehow...) so that snape can remain a spy for the order of the phoenix? i mean if dumbledore was going to die, might as well die for a good reason.. haha

[FitzChivalry]

About Lily being a deatheater, JK as commented, on her offical site no less, about this rumor. She simply responded to this rumor with one sentence, "How dare you!?"

link: http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/rumours_view.cfm?id=5

Sounds like a slightly evasive answer, if you ask me. When she really wants to squash a ridiculous rumor, she'd just come right out and say "No." For all we know, she could be saying "How Dare You??!" because people guessed it right. Either way, I dont want to Lily Potter to have been a Death Eater.

[Darth Judicar]

I see no remote possibility of Lily Potter being a Death Eater. As such, J.K. has shot that down and she was a muggle-born. Do you honestly imagine Voldemort wants those kind in his service?

[FitzChivalry]

Voldemort(and Snape) is the biggest hypocrite, though. He's the Hitler of the wizarding. See, Voldemort only hangs with purebloods and he says those are the only people worth being with but he, himself, is a half-blood. Besides, who'd suspect Lily Potter? I don't think she was a Death Eater and I sure hope she wasn't a Death Eater.

[Efraim Longstocking]

Batman's idea is one of the most original and great theory but I think it's unlikely to happen. I would hope for it though. By reading what JK said about re-reading too find one of the horcruxes. She could mean that the locket that were stolen. I don't think R.A.B. destroyed it. Just a feeling of it.

JK don't seem to fancy the fighting and dualery part so the ending might not be extreme in violence. As I would have done it in a fast tempo fight with Yondaime style apparition and spells fired all over. The ending will contain some kind of lovey-dubey thing and then we will get some kind of what-happened-after kind of things when we see the future lives of the main characters. Ít was mentioned that the last chapter was the thing she wrote first and that one probably holds the conclusion and putting all things togheter.

[NaRa]

well reading the interview im sure of few things.snape is in no way shape or form a vampire she called it a rediculous theory.and all the out right stupid theories she immiediatly waves off.I.E lily being a death eater.I do believe that out of all the theories thus far batman's is a possibility because its truly creative and would be a very good horcrux few would expect.I strongly doubt that harry is a horcrux but at the same time the glimer of hope still hasn't come into play as jkr stated.As others pointed you have to mean it perform a killing curse.So snape is and always has been working for voldemort that im pretty sure of.I think that mrs.weasley was glaring at bill because of the way fluer was giving him wine but it could be a possibility that it was what he said.and pods pointed out florean and ollivander which i think has some value to the 7th book.maybe florean has knowledge of a raven claw artifact?also it could very well be voldemort might have put a horcrux in his wand.which to me wpuld be a desired place.after all where is there a better guarded place than with voldemort at all times.which is a reason nagini very may well be one.

i Believe the following are horcrux
1.slytherin ring's(dumbledore already proved it)
2.nagini(Dumbledore suspected it.Nagini is also a close pet so it would be a wise decision)
3.locket(Dumbledore already proved it)
4.huffle puff's cup(a possibility.Voldemort looked at it with extreme desire.So im thinking this is a definate horcrux..onlyn ot provewn yet)
5.Raven claw artifact.(voldemort treasured hogwarts and would like to have a trophy from each founder im sure.fitting as another horcrux)
6.Voldemort Himself
7.The diary of tom riddle

[Darth Judicar]

Well, according to your list NaRa, you say Voldemort himself was a Horcrux...If that's the case, that would be another Horcrux down, as his spell was reflected back into him, destroying him. It was stated he had all his Horcruxes in place when he arrived at Godric's Hollow, so if he was one at that time, he would of vanished instead of being 'just' alive. And Voldemort, as believed by Dumbledore, hasn't created any new ones since his reincarnation.

[darkness45]

hmmm as for harry being a horcrux i had this weird thought last night that maybe he is a horcrux, that voldermort did not intend to kill harry that instead he was trying to turn him into another horcrux, however voldermort had already split his soul too much and that is what backfired and why he was left how he was. if he was trying to turn him into a horcrux that would have meant in the future to kill voldermort they would have also had to murder an innocent wizard, just an idea anyway.

[darkness45]

double post :|

[funjat]

^^ i agree with you. however i think the scar is the horcrux, not harry i.e. it was a failed attempt at a human horcrux. not because of too many soul splits by voldemort, but because of harry's blanket of love.

[Hinata-neechan]

The scar probably is one of the horcruxes. Hey, wouldn't surprise me.

[Firejin*]

ummm.......

everyone here has some really cool predictions....
but i have some of my own..

first of all....
IS DUMBLEDORE REALLY DEAD??
Theory No. 1:why did Snape really killed Dumbledore???
is it because Snape wants to kill him??
Dumbledore wants to be killed not saved!
would a great wizard like Dumbldore would plead for his life???
Snape did it on Dumbledore's orders!
and Dumbledore could not be Dead!
Dumbledore's pet was a pheonix!
it symbolizes rebirth!
remember Lord of the Rings???
Gandalf Died and was reborn...
what about Narnia(the lion the witch and the wardrobe)??
Aslan died and he was also reborn!
Dumbledore might have another trick under his sleeves...
he might return on book 7..

Theory No. 2: Dumbledores really dead....
unlike Sirius, we saw his body....
and besides...
he alredy popped up on one of his portraits
on his office...
he might not return at all!

This is my first prediction wait for more.........
(coz i'm runnin out of time....:oh:S )

[Sakura]

i dont think harry will stay in hogwarts. he will leave with hermione and ron and find the final horcrux and R.A.B.

[Firejin*]

ummm.......

everyone here has some really cool predictions....
but i have some of my own..

first of all....
IS DUMBLEDORE REALLY DEAD??
Theory No. 1:why did Snape really killed Dumbledore???
is it because Snape wants to kill him??
Dumbledore wants to be killed not saved!
would a great wizard like Dumbldore would plead for his life???
Snape did it on Dumbledore's orders!
and Dumbledore could not be Dead!
Dumbledore's pet was a pheonix!
it symbolizes rebirth!
remember Lord of the Rings???
Gandalf Died and was reborn...
what about Narnia(the lion the witch and the wardrobe)??
Aslan died and he was also reborn!
Dumbledore might have another trick under his sleeves...
he might return on book 7..

Theory No. 2: Dumbledores really dead....
unlike Sirius, we saw his body....
and besides...
he alredy popped up on one of his portraits
on his office...
he might not return at all!

This is my first prediction wait for more.........
(coz i'm runnin out of time....:oh:S )

[Gompiej]

Well the horcrux that Dumbledore and Harry were going for was already destroyed the medallion of Slitherin by R.A.B and because Harry, Dumbledore and this R.A.B have all destroyed one already there are only 4 horcrux left to be destroyed.

So to pressume Dumbledore was correct we have to be suspiciouse about the follow artifacts.

1 = Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff their artifacts because Voldemort is obsessed with Hogwarts.
2 = Nagini the Basilisk that lifes near Voldemort because Dumbledore things he placed a horcrus in the beest.

so that is basically already 3 artifacts and means only one is left and that is most likely in something that we all do not know actually and it probably has to do something with either Voldemort himself or with Harry according to the scar and he has been able to interact actually with Voldemort although he doesn't do that ofcourse.

[darkness45]

ok, reading order of the pheonix again last night im sure floreans dissapearance has a lot more significance than originally thought. this is because im sure he is a descendant of a head teacher at hogwarts, he is mentioned as a portrait on the wall.

[Madonna]

Some predictions:

1. Young Malfoy will do sth against big V. Maybe he'll even die, dunno. If he lives he won't be best friend of Harry but this hostility will stop. I was really suprised with things JR did with Malfoy, all his caring bout parents (his talk with Myrtle was like "ZOMG!! He has a heart!!")

2. Maybe the prophecy was about Nevill. We aren't really sure that it's bout Harry. In that case Harry can die (dunno bout that) and it won't be against the prophecy.

3. Harry ain't horcrux. Why would V try to kill Harry if he wanted to make Horcrux out of him. I doub't that sending Avad Kadabra (sp?) was part of making Harry horcrux (actualy, how do U make a horcrux? we don't really know anything bout that - besides that soul mast be spli, usually with a murder), for the Gods sake, V wen't hell and back because of that one Avad Kadabra!!

4. Other stuff
Bout Snape: ther's still posibilty that he's good one.
Dubmbledore: he's probably dead.
R.E.B. : Sirius brother? Doubt it? didn't they say that he was kinda *not smart*.

[Redemption]

Snape is not evil at all. Dumbledore knew about the unbreakable vow as many have said already, however what hasnt been mention the fact Dumbledore knew he was already dying. Dumbledore was pleading snape to kill him to save severus's life, to dumbledore he himself was already dead. This makes so much more sense and ties back to what dumbledore said about his own lifes worth in book 1 : the sorcerer's stone.

Nagini has to be a horcrux because what else purpose is nagini everything in this book has a purpose(this is what makes the book so good), so if not a horcrux what is nagini?

Almost all the death eaters will die.

Possible Non Death-Eater Deaths:

Snape will be a critical component in helping Harry to kill Voldemort, but before that happens snape will die by voldemorts hands.

Lupin at werewolf transformation will die to wormtail, this is why he was given a silver hand in the first place by Voldemort. Lupin may kill wormtail in the process of dying.

I am pretty sure someone close to Harry will die (mr./mrs. Weasley)

Some order members will die as well, mad eye moody will probably die, Tonks will probably survive in horror of the death of lupin.

[Redemption]

There's also a rumor that Lily Potter could've been a Death Eater! Whether it's Harry the Horcrux or Lily the Death Eater i would lose some level of respect for JKR.
JK Rowling has publicly denounced the idiotic and flimsy theory of lilly as a death eater 3 times.

Please people check jkrowling.com FAQ sometime :wink

[FAN21]

THE REASON THAT SNAPE FELT BAD ABOUT TELLING VOLDEMORT ABOUT THE PROPHECY IS BECAUSE LILY DIED AND HE WAS IN LOVE WITH HER. :huh

SNAPE ASKED THE DARK LORD NOT TO KILL LILY AND THAT IS WHY HE GAVE HER THE CHANCE TO ESCAPE.

ANOTHER REASON MAY BE THAT SNAPE OWED JAMES FOR SAVING HIS LIFE AND NOW THAT HE IS DEAD HE WILL ALWAYS OWE HIM.

HARRY WILL GET MORE INFO ABOUT HIS GRANDPARENTS

THE SWORD IS NOT A HORCRUX (TO OBVIOUS)

R.A.B. WILL HELP HARRY AND DIE IN THE PROCESS

HARRY WILL RETURN TO HOGWARTS TO SEE DUMBLEDORE'S PORTRAIT AND TO SEARCH FOR A HORCRUX.

WE WILL LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROTECTION SPELL THAT HARRY'S MOTHER PLACED ON HIM.

HARRY'S AUNT WILL REVEAL THE NEW INFORMATION ABOUT LILY POTTER OR

HARRY WILL LEARN THE NEW INFOMATION ABOUT HIS MOTHER FROM SOMEONE'S PENSIVE.

I THINK THAT HARRY AND GINNY ARE TO VARY SIMILAR TO JAMES AND LILY

HARRY HAS BENE TOLD THAT HE IS LIKE FATHER MENY TIMES

GINNY AND LILY BOTH HAVE THAT FIRE RED HAIR AND A FIERY PERSONALITY TO MATCH

[tank!]

Fan21, please don't 'shout'..or triple-post.

:
Harry, Ron and Hermione will visit Harry's parent's graves, and stay there while Harry learns more about the horcruxes. Nagini is defnitely a Horcrux. RAB is most likely Regulus Black..and wasn't he dead anyway?
Harry will not go back to school..he and Ron/Hermione will find and destroy the remaining Horcruxes and Harry will face off with Voldemort and destroy him.
Snape: i don't tyhink snape is good. yes, the above reasosn are valid, but i stand by this. either he will be killed, or he will have a change of heart and work against voldemort, but no real redemption.

also, what about wormtail? 'the time may come when harry may be glad of wormtail being indebted to him..' or something. did that happen? if not, we'll see. ron and hermione will marry. if harry lives, he will marry ginny. the end.

[FAN21]

I wasn't shouting I just like to type in caps,

and I had three different topics, so bite me. :P

[Jink]

I wasn't shouting I just like to type in caps,

and I had three different topics, so bite me. :P

thats not how things work on forums

[tank!]

I wasn't shouting I just like to type in caps,

and I had three different topics, so bite me. :P

I won't, but the mods might. Its really not that hard to discuss three topics in the one post.

Oh, and getting back on track, i don't think dumbledore will be coming back either.

[brummie]

www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com

Every reason, I agree with.

[Recca]

Well my predictions;

Snape was ordered to kill dumbledore, by dumbledore, and he will possibly die saving harry, paying back his debt to james for saving his life ( i beleive that is what switched snape, when someone saves your life in that world you are indebted to them, and james kind of died so the debt possibly rolled on to harry.

Um, one of the horcruxes, is that locket at snapes house, which i beleive mudungus probably flogged when he raided the house.

Draco, will probably do something that slows voldemort down, or he will probably beg harry to save his mum or something.

We find out that petuna iis a squid, and dudley is a wizard who had his powers possibly binded by dumbledore.

well yeh, my short list of theories.

Ohh and towards the end, like a timeskip, someone who resembles dumbledore returns whilst harry is head master, the pheonix thing

[Naruto~Kurosaki]

My Predictions:


First of all, Ginny Sue isn't going to get back with Harry. Will she try? Chances are. But she's definatly not going to play any signifigant role in the book.
Harry's going to fall through the veil(maybe even "a" veil), yet making it out alive - scarless.
Ron's going to betray the Trio.
Hermione is going to proclaim her undying love for Harry. :nod
Harry alone isn't going to cast the final spell that kills Voldemort.
Harry is not a Horcrux.
Snape IS a bad guy.


It'll be interesting to see how many of these ends up correct. smile-big

[Recca]

My Predictions:


First of all, Ginny Sue isn't going to get back with Harry. Will she try? Chances are. But she's definatly not going to play any signifigant role in the book.
Harry's going to fall through the veil(maybe even "a" veil), yet making it out alive - scarless.
Ron's going to betray the Trio.
Hermione is going to proclaim her undying love for Harry. :nod
Harry alone isn't going to cast the final spell that kills Voldemort.
Harry is not a Horcrux.
Snape IS a bad guy.


It'll be interesting to see how many of these ends up correct. smile-big


Well i highlighted the ones which are most likely incorrect, if harry lives to the end then he and giny will hook up, and i think it is proven that giny will play a vital role.

Ron is probably the most loyal person in the book.

I think it is too simple for snape to be evil, and it gives little credit to dumbledore, besides he has a debt to harry.

Anyway, i beleive harry will have his somewhat old arm, consiting of the DA, probably keeping the name as respect ot dumbledore.

They imo will have a more active role than the order of the phoenix.

[Chatulio]

The good side will be on the defensive for the begining and middle until harry goes batshit crazy and goes blasty blast against EvIl :kukuku

[Naruto~Kurosaki]

Well i highlighted the ones which are most likely incorrect, if harry lives to the end then he and giny will hook up, and i think it is proven that giny will play a vital role.

Harry has already broken up with Ginny-Sue. She was his final attempt at being a normal person. During the break-up scene, he acknowleges the fact that he's NOT normal, and that he needs to leave his childhood behind. JKR wouldn't go through all of that to simply allow Ginny to happily tag along with him (which I assumed is what you meant by saying she'll play a "vital" role). THIS is why H/G's relationship was substanceless. It was cold, the reader couldn't get attatched to it at all, and it only lasted two weeks.

Heh. That's probably another discussion for another time. Just make sure you go back and read their brake-up scene. :)


Ron is probably the most loyal person in the book.

Ron's constant insecurities about being in Harry's shadow, him desiring recognition beyond anything else, and the underlying symbolic connection between himself and Wormtail/Scabbers lead me to believe that he will betray the trio and maybe even die. GOF proved that for me.

I think it is too simple for snape to be evil, and it gives little credit to dumbledore, besides he has a debt to harry.

I think it would be an awfully clever plot-twist for him to be evil. Making the whole semi-obvious "Dumbledore ordered Snape to kill him" theory a red-herring. :nuts

[Trixie]

I've got my own predictions too... I'm not really that coonfident about it...

First...
Dumbledore will come alive again... Well... I just think he will because of Fawkes... Fawkes can be reborn again... I think Dumbledore has that ability too... After all he is a great wizard... He just has a plan from the start which could include his fate..:notrust


Harry could be the final horcrux... He does have some of voldemort's powers... like being parseltongue etc... :nod

I think (and wish) that the three would go hand in hand on this one... :wink without Ginny (i'm not up for the two of them... nothing personal :oh )

[Recca]

Harry has already broken up with Ginny-Sue. She was his final attempt at being a normal person. During the break-up scene, he acknowleges the fact that he's NOT normal, and that he needs to leave his childhood behind. JKR wouldn't go through all of that to simply allow Ginny to happily tag along with him (which I assumed is what you meant by saying she'll play a "vital" role). THIS is why H/G's relationship was substanceless. It was cold, the reader couldn't get attatched to it at all, and it only lasted two weeks.


You also have to remember that once the book is over and if harry lives, he will have a somewhat normal life.

Besides ginnys personality will still come in to play, it is portrayed that ginny is gifted, and jk rowling stated somewhere also, regardless of what harry says i dont see her listening to him, eventually by the end of the book they will hook up, cho and harry is a no, but ginny and harry have a somewhat connection.

Jk rowling would go through that scene to show that harrys freinds and loved ones will not leave him alone, it is the bigger diffrence between him and voldemort.

V prefers to do things on his own, harry will do it with his freinds love. It has been shown that they will stick by him no matter what.

[Polarwave Pop]

well i think that harry is prolly the final horcruxe, which is kinda sad, but JK Rowling's hinted his death a few times, i think. i also think that neville will have a bigger part and so will draco. ron will prolly die, cos he will totally want to get involved with helping harry, disregarding his own personal risk. cos that's ron, harry's loyal friend. poor ron, he's so stupid.:cry
Horcruxes
1. Diary(destroyed by Harry)
2. Slytherin's Ring(destroyed by Dumbledore)
3. (Slytherin's?) Locket(destroyed by "R.A.B.")
4. Gryffindor's Sword
5. Hufflepuff's Cup.
6. Something of Ravenclaw's.
7. Harry's Scar

Also, if you're reading very carefully in the 5th book, they are cleaning out Sirius's house and they find this chest or drawer or something that's locked, and they also find a HEAVY GOLD LOCKET, which they cant open so they throw it away. so thats slytherin's (?) locket that regulus tried to destroy. and now mundungus prolly has it. and snape is prolly on dumbledore's side.
dumbledore still has a part cos hes in a portrait now. it must be pretty boring being just a painting. :notrust
neway, harry= dead meat, i knew it from the beginning. sorry if u disagree, but thats just my two cents.

[IzumoX]

This is my theory ^^

In book seven, I think Harry will have to die in order for Voldemort to be killed.
I think Harry has a Horcruxes confided inside of him.
Dumbledore thought that one of the horcruxes was sealed inside of Nagini.
It is inadvisable to do so, because to confide part of your soul to something that can think and move for itself is obviously risky business. However, if my calculations are correct, Voldemort was still at least one Horcrux short of his goal of six when he entered your parents' house with the intent to kill you.
So, the horcruxes can be sealed inside a living thing, except, it has drawbacks, which I think is the reason why Harry can see and feel what Voldemort is doing sometimes.
It was said that, the night Voldemort lost all of his powers, he left part of himself inside of Harry, this is why he can talk Parselmouth. But, because he had split his soul up so many times, yes, he was weak, and he dissappeared.

I think someone else will end up killing Voldemort, because once Harry dies, Voldemort will be the last Horcruxes left, and he'll have no way of returning.
My bets are on Snape.

Well, thats what I think >.<

[mrpresidenthehe]

I can only say that I think Harry will break up with Ginny. I hate it when kids date their best friend's sister.

[Ruri]

I wasn't shouting I just like to type in caps,

and I had three different topics, so bite me. :P
When you type in caps, it's the equivalent of shouting, so don't do it anymore. Also, you can address all the topics you want in one post, so there's no need to triple post. Use the Edit button if you want to add more, but otherwise wait for someone to post after you to continue the discussion.

[Giant Enemy Crab]

I think that Snape is good, and Dumbledore used Ligllemincy(sp?) to tell Snape to kill him since he was dying anyway. I also think that, Gryffindor's Sword is a Horucrux as is Harry's scar. Another thing is that Harry will finally meet Aberforth(Dubmledore's brother) and he will play a big role. Also, Scrimigoeur will apoligize to Harry and release Stan Shunpike and Fudge will try to become Minister again.

[Hangatýr]

How can Gryffindor's Sword be a Horcrux if Voldemort has never seen it? And Harry has already met Aberforth.

[Giant Enemy Crab]

How can Gryffindor's Sword be a Horcrux if Voldemort has never seen it? And Harry has already met Aberforth.
What I mean is, Harry will actually get to know Aberforth and the Hog' Head doesn't count since it wasn't revealed the bar man was Aberforth even if he was.

[Hangatýr]

It was revealed that the bartender was Aberforth, Rowling has stated it in an interview.

[Giant Enemy Crab]

It was revealed that the bartender was Aberforth, Rowling has stated it in an interview.
I know but, it wasn't stated in the book and Harry urrently doesn't know it.

[Hangatýr]

He does semi-realise it.

[Giant Enemy Crab]

He does semi-realise it.
Yeah, and one good thing about Dumbledore's death is that it will put a stop to all of the "Dumbledore is Evil" theories.

[Nathan]

Wait... who is Aberforth again? xD

[Wolfy]

Wait... who is Aberforth again?

To answer your question Tohru Aberforth is Dumbledore's brother.
Albus Dumbledore's brother who was once prosecuted for enchanting a goat. He is a former member of the Order of the Phoenix and the innkeeper at the Hog's Head.


To be a Horcrux himself, Harry would need to a) be dead, and b) it would need Voldemort to impart a piece of his soul into Harry.

Actually, as someone else stated, you don't need to be dead to be a horcrux.


I have one depressing prediction.

I believe Harry is the final horcrux and that in order to kill Voldemort, once and for all, he's going to have to take his own life in the process.

I think the one thing people forget about horcruxes and Harry being one of them is that in order to make the horcrux you have to
a] kill said person
b] use a spell to put your soul into an object
Function: Horcruxes are safeguards against mortality, at a price. An extraordinarily powerful witch or wizard can preserve a fragment of his or her soul in another, typically inanimate, object. However, this can only be done by committing murder. By killing another human being, the murderer's soul is cleaved. A truly depraved murderer can work this split to his or her advantage, and store one of these fragments in a Horcrux using an as yet unspecified spell. If that person is killed, a piece of his or her soul remains on the earth.

Seeing as how all Voldie did was attempt to kill Harry, which backfired, there wouldn't be a possible way for Harry to be a horcrux. Voldie disappeared right after the AK curse, leaving no possible time for him to use the second spell to put the other part of his soul into Harry.

As for my predictions on the 7th book, they are all vague.
Im certain Voldie will bite the dust, I think something tragic will happen to Ron or Hermione, Wormtail will have a role in Voldie's death and for some odd reason I feel like Tonks is going to die [I really dont know why, Hagrid seems more likely]

-Obi

[Onya]

I have trouble believing Harry is going to live. He's just got tragic hero written all over him. But if he does die, obviously it will be a sacrifice to kill Voldemort.

On that topic, I think Snape will also die in some kind of sacrifice to save Harry. I still believe that he's Rowling's redemptive character, that he is working with the Order, and that by saving Harry, he'll repay James, more than he did in Philosopher's Stone.

I don't think Ron or Hermione will die. I just don't see the point in that happening now...Harry has more than enough motivation to go after Voldemort. Rowling has already shown enough meanlingless murders to show Voldemort's evil side, so I just don't see it happening.

I'm interested to see what's up with Petunia. I don't think she's a squib, and beyond that I have no guesses.

[Mek Blaze]

I'm hoping Harry would sacrifice himself to kill Voldemort. But I doubt Rowling would actually really want to kill him off.

[EverEndingStory]

I like your theories, but i am not going to try to come up with any of my own. Because anything could happen, there is no way anyone can accurately guess what will happen

[Chatulio]

From what i head about some interview she was planning to kill harry off but then several other authors convinced her not to for some reason:oh

Oh and i am a firm believer of Dumbledore the white wizard theory :nod


joke XP

[Byuku-Sharingan]

Harry fucks up Genny (hell yeah), all his freinds die in a attack, Harry's son has the scar and is the horcrux, Harry kills his son and all of the other horcruxes, Harry finds out where Voldemort's remaid body is, he fights Voldemort, during the fight all the souls that died from Voldemort's wand come and help Arry including others close to harry that died (son, Dumbldore, Serious, possibly Regulis, freinds, and Genny), Voldemort is just a living skeleton a heart and his skull has the scar, Harry finds out he is the last horcrux and kills himself, Voldemort's "body" catches on fire and drops into Hell, Harry ascends to Heaven and joins his freinds and family, finally he fucks Genny over and over again (more hell yeah),
THE END

[foxysurouni666]

holy freak!!!!i hate these series!!!!!!!!!!harri is sooooo UGLY in the movies hes even UGLIER!!!!!!!

[Chojuto]

Nooooo, I don't want Harry to die:cry He has to live so he and Ginny can grow up and marry and stuff.

[kyutofukumaki]

I want Harry to live and voldemort to die. I also want Dumbledoore to come back and Sirius black come back and Harry's parents to come back.

[Gurbik]

I wish that in the movies, samuel L jackson had played hagrid... i think it would have been WAY funnier.... BITCH DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS? THIS IS A MOTHER FUCKING HIPPOGRIFF!!!! then he hits draco in the face and the ladies swoon. soory... i know this is the book section but its harry potter related?!?! i dunno as for book 7 i predict that it will actualy be 2 volumes, there is soo much stuff that has to happen that i dont see it beeing feasable to fin into one binding, they may come out at the same time but there will be 2 books and it will cost at least 50 american dollars......

[Haku2099]

Alright I belive that in book 7 we will learn even more about harry's family, I think that harry is the last decendant of Godric Gryfondor( the whole slytherind and gryfondor rivalry being played out through the last of each family) I think that Voldemort already knows this and that's the real reason he thought the prophecy was about harry.

[Chojuto]

Is book 7 gonna be the final book? of is there gonna be a book 8?

[Yasha]

Is book 7 gonna be the final book? of is there gonna be a book 8?

Book 7 will be the last one.

[Chatulio]

My greatest wish is for harry to get Sirius moter cycle :amuse

[metronomy]

Wow didn't know this thread still exsisted! I've been listening to the mugglecast recently, and have some good information I will write up later.

[Chatulio]

We will keep the light burning within the eternal dark :yell

[Brandt]

Harry dies...




Just joking... I think. :P Would be kind of dramatic, though. It would certainly put an end to any hopes of a sequel if Harry bit the dust. :laugh

[Chatulio]

From what i've heard she wanted to kill him off at one point but was talked out of it :oh

[Red]

Harry is the final horocrux(pardon my spelling) well because it has been stated that harry has a piece of voldy in him(thats the reason he can speak parsel tongue and the reason the sorting hat wanted him to be in slytherine) plus voldy did commit murder to make harry a horocrux(wether knowingly or unknowingly)I meen he slaughtered his parents so i guess that's murder...yup harry is gonna kill him self:(

[Hangatýr]

You're thinking of it in a wrong way. He wanted to kill Harry in order to use that murder as a way of severing a part of his soul and then implant it in an object worth it, not to make Harry a Horcrux. I mean, it'd be kinda stupid to make a Horcrux of something you plan on killing.

[Nejitenstar8]

Ron will die. Or at least I hope he will. I heard a rumor someone big will die. I think Snape is not evil. I think it would be.... Dissapointing if he was at least. Overall I don't have many theories really.

[Hangatýr]

The title of the seventh book has been revealed:
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

[Comic Book Guy]

The ending perhaps leaving little for anyone to return to the series for the future, I suppose.

And not enough Luna.

[CoonDawg]

Ron will die. Or at least I hope he will. I heard a rumor someone big will die. I think Snape is not evil. I think it would be.... Dissapointing if he was at least. Overall I don't have many theories really.

One is going to die, and another got reconsidered.

So at least 1 or 2 people are dying.

Ron won't.
Snape will, while helping Harry and not Malfoy (Unbreakable curse) in my opinion.
Whatever does happen, one thing's for sure: It will rock sox.

[metronomy]

Intresting book title - I'm not sure what to make of it.

[Hangatýr]

The ending perhaps leaving little for anyone to return to the series for the future, I suppose.

And not enough Luna.

Luna X Ginny fanfics make my patience last. D:

[J6sh]

I'm not really into the book title, it's too.. err, "Hollywood" for my tastes. But the book itself should be promising.

[sel]

Sirius' brother, dead or alive, should have a more prominent role due to the recent Horcrux thing.

thats if he really is RAB and not a red herring

[General Mustang]

I think, if two people have to die, it would be Ron and Snape or Voldemort

[CursedChidori]

So do u think that Dumbledore will come back? everyones saying it but i think hes waaaay dead...

[bancy]

Nope. I don't think Dumbledore will be back. JKR isn't the type to 'kill off' a character like that, hold a funeral, and then suddenly have him magically return in the next book. It's sort of.. senseless, really. Plus I'm kinda sick of Harry getting so much help. D:

I do wish Regulus is alive. He's most likely RAB, isn't he? I mean, there's no other person that fits the initials and the note. And I highly doubt that it's going to be a character that's not introduced to us yet..;;

Anyways, I also wanna see more of Aberforth Dumbledore. :D

And I want Hogwarts!

[isanon]

Nope. I don't think Dumbledore will be back. JKR isn't the type to 'kill off' a character like that, hold a funeral, and then suddenly have him magically return in the next book. It's sort of.. senseless, really. Plus I'm kinda sick of Harry getting so much help. D:

I do wish Regulus is alive. He's most likely RAB, isn't he? I mean, there's no other person that fits the initials and the note. And I highly doubt that it's going to be a character that's not introduced to us yet..;;

Anyways, I also wanna see more of Aberforth Dumbledore. :D

And I want Hogwarts!

well i read a theory about R.A.B and it seems there are 3 other persons who fit those initials

sirius grandfather

mr borgin from borgin and burkes (it might have been mr burke i forgot witch one it was)

and ludo bagmans father

[Beau Logan]

New title makes me sad. :(

Anyway, I'm still on the 'I hope Remus dies' boat. I like him and all but I think it would prove to make a good scene.

[Chatulio]

You would wish that on Tonks after all she went through :cry

[isanon]

taken from mugglenet

JKRowling.com has recently been updated with news (http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/news_view.cfm?id=97) that Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, the seventh and final book in the series, will be released on July 21st, 2007.

Scholastic has followed with a press release in which Lisa Holton, President of Scholastic Children's Books said, 'We are thrilled to announce the publication date of the seventh installment in this remarkable series. We join J.K. Rowling's millions of readers - young and old, veterans and newcomers - in anticipating what lies ahead.' You can read the full press release here (http://www.scholastic.com/aboutscholastic/news/press_02012007_CP.htm).fuck couldnt they have relesed it one day erlier :yell

it would have been the best birthday present ever :angry

[metronomy]

not long to go now. the hype machine should start to pick up.

[@lk3mizt]

the name of the new books gives me the creeps!!

[OniTasku]

Deathly Hallows...? Interesting to say the least. Oh well, can't wait for the book's release! :spaz

[Mojo]

You can pre-order the Harry Potter book now on Amazon and Borders. YEAH!

[Wolfy]

I think July has officially become my most anticipated month [then comes june, followed by march]

I am so damn excited for this book.

[INSANITY]

I don't know about this, but I'm just predicting.

I think that Draco will be the one to actually kill [or attepmt to] Voldemort. I think so because, my guess and opinion, I'm pretty much hoping for Harry to die by now. Eitherwise, I don't give a damn about who and who and so and so, just waiting for Harry to die at a failed attempt to kill "You Know Who".

I remember reading [I don't remember which book or where since I'm still on the 4th] somewhere that Harry saw Draco crying and that Voldemort threathened to kill him and his family if Draco doesn't kill Dombledore in a so and so amount of time. And my guess after that, is that by the 7th book, Harry will be long gone after Draco, Herminoe and Ron watched/helped him.

By the time that happens, Harry'll be dead and we're gonna be left with the three, and seeing as Draco is a "junior" Death Eater, he might kill him [maybe from the 7th book through the 8th]. *babbling*

And so far, I think I'm done. :amuse *expecting neg rep(s)* :D

[Wolfy]

I don't know about this, but I'm just predicting.

I think that Draco will be the one to actually kill [or attepmt to] Voldemort. I think so because, my guess and opinion, I'm pretty much hoping for Harry to die by now. Eitherwise, I don't give a damn about who and who and so and so, just waiting for Harry to die at a failed attempt to kill "You Know Who".

I remember reading [I don't remember which book or where since I'm still on the 4th] somewhere that Harry saw Draco crying and that Voldemort threathened to kill him and his family if Draco doesn't kill Dombledore in a so and so amount of time. And my guess after that, is that by the 7th book, Harry will be long gone after Draco, Herminoe and Ron watched/helped him.

By the time that happens, Harry'll be dead and we're gonna be left with the three, and seeing as Draco is a "junior" Death Eater, he might kill him [maybe from the 7th book through the 8th]. *babbling*

And so far, I think I'm done. :amuse *expecting neg rep(s)* :D


Okay, well since you arnt that far in the books, I'm not going to neg rep you even though I want to. And I can also see your a huge Draco Malfoy fan.
First off, to correct your assumptions.
1. 7 years in hogwarts = 7 books
the book coming out this year is the last in the Harry Potter series.

2. There is a prophecy, and only Harry can kill Voldemort because of it. Draco is not going to rise up and become a good guy and kill Voldie. Sorry to all fan girls out there [myself included] but Draco is probably going to die, and he's still a coward chicken shit who would do anything to save his own hide, including effing everyone around him over, so if he doesnt, well, he isnt going to rise to the occasion and become a hero.

3. If Harry does die, it will be when he succeeds to kill Voldemort most likely

4. Draco doesnt like the Golden Trio, he isnt going to be friends with them, and he would never be one of the "left overs" in the event of Harry's Death.

5. Before you try to make assumptions and theories about something, make sure you're well informed. If you are really only on Book four, then you are missing out on two books worth of goings on.
Oh, and the scene you're referring to is in HBP.

[INSANITY]

And I can also see your a huge Draco Malfoy fan.

Now what gave you that idea? *being stupid*

But I understand now, thank you~
I really need to catch up though. My parents promising me books 5 - 6 for V-Day and the day after [my birthday], I might just...change my prediction.

*appreciates Wolfy-chan* :amuse

[Wolfy]

no problem. It's completely understandable. And the hardcore Draco Malfoy fan girl in me wishes that everything will turn out alright for him...but...


Ahh. In anycase, we find out in July.
I really dont want to cry because of another sad death...

[INSANITY]

no problem. It's completely understandable. And the hardcore Draco Malfoy fan girl in me wishes that everything will turn out alright for him...but...


Ahh. In anycase, we find out in July.
I really dont want to cry because of another sad death...

It would be really sad for all the Draco fans to be so dissapointed...

And throughout all the hoping we may manage and muster, someone, be it Draco or whoever, someone will die... :cry

[Chatulio]

*reserves copy today* :nuts A making myself a note for the day before XD

[crazymtf]

Reserving today :P

[Wolfy]

>_>
<_<

I reserved a copy the second I heard about this...Like 6 hours ago. Heh

[Juan Diego]

I was just wondering of the portraits. Will the portrait of dumbledore have the mind that dumbledore had in life? Because all of the portraits seem to have feelings and seem to have a lot of interesting thigs to say, so i think that dumbledore isnt trully gone, he is just in that "cuadro". What has JK said about the "cuadros"? are the poeple on them the same as they were on life?

[natwel]

apparently this is her last book so

harry will not be at school he will go and look for horcruxes instead and he will be killed off at 21 which finished the series.

mgrace, these are our assumptions, not the actual story in the book, jk may change her mind and put something else in the book.

[isanon]

no problem. It's completely understandable. And the hardcore Draco Malfoy fan girl in me wishes that everything will turn out alright for him...but
well i rather dislike draco but it might still turn out good for him (refering to snapes vow and what draco did, or rather what he didnt do, at the end of HBP
I was just wondering of the portraits. Will the portrait of dumbledore have the mind that dumbledore had in life? Because all of the portraits seem to have feelings and seem to have a lot of interesting thigs to say, so i think that dumbledore isnt trully gone, he is just in that "cuadro". What has JK said about the "cuadros"? are the poeple on them the same as they were on life?
no JKR said in an interview that potraits are just "after images of a witch/wizard. they arent as simmilar (in the way they think and speak) as gosts and they often repeat themselfs (as seen with sirius mother)


harry will not be at school he will go and look for horcruxes instead and he will be killed off at 21 which finished the series.

this havnt been confirmed by JKR but it is likely to occur since harry said so

[Wolfy]

well i rather dislike draco but it might still turn out good for him (refering to snapes vow and what draco did, or rather what he didnt do, at the end of HBP

True. Maybe it will end good for him. I can only hope.

[ANBUSoldier]

I think she will still come with another book...

[Batman]

I will be pretty sad should Harry die at the end of this book because he'll never quite have the qhat could have been. The constant tension and dark clouds hanging over his life preventing him from fully enjoying the benefits of having a fulltime family, and fulltime group of friends will be missed. The ability to spend entire summers with loved ones will be missed. I think it would be a shame if the potter line, (which I'm also speculating to be the gryffindor line) dies out at the end of the books.

Also I am so angry at Snape for the way he was acting at the end of Book six. " No unforgivible curses for you today, Potter." What the butt does that mean? Is he saving Harry from himself. Why is he letting harry stay there, while giving him advice, while he runs away? With the ease he had in stopping Harry from attacking him in the slightest, he could have just knocked him out and snatched the body back to the dark lord. It doesn't make sense, or it makes too much sense. He's either a really good bad guy or a really bad good guy. Hope that makes sense.

Also, Dumbledore is dead. *tear* but he will be present in the last book. OF coruse in the way of theportrait, but his pensive is just sitting up there in his office, full of memories for Harry to siphon throug. This is as good a reason as any to go back to Hogwarts, that and to talk to the portrait in the Headmistresses office.

Ron. It's his time. The most useless and lametastic weasly sibling who is constantly outshined by everyone in his inner circle of relationships, be they friend, crush, brother, sister, parent, or enemy. Ron needs his day. Does this mean he's going to die, after putting that vastly superior strategic mind to good use? I'm not sure, but he needs to have somethign. Come on JK throw him a bone. It was like the entire 5th book was a long ass excuse to humiliate the poor kid over and over again. Well anyways that's all I can think of now.

[Batman]

grr double post. :P

[The Rook]

Snape=Harry's father

[Yasha]

At the moment, I am still in the camp that believes that Snape is still working for Dumbledore; There's still to much mystery surrounding Snape.


Have you read this editorial?




Eliminating a Possibility and Explaining His Trust: The Voldemort-Snape-Dumbledore Triangle

Upon first reading the sixth book, all me and my friends were talking about was the end: Dumbledore dying, the Horcruxes, R.A.B., and Snape, which is exactly what I believe J.K. Rowling wanted us to do. The ending threw many of the seemingly less important parts of the book completely into shadow, enabling J.K.R. to slip in some vital details that would easily be overlooked. The best place, of course, to have one of these crucial pieces of information hidden would be just before the climax, where the reader would most easily forget it. This is exactly what J.K.R. did; she gave us the answer to a question that has been in the minds of Harry Potter readers since the first book, and even more so now. She told us why Dumbledore trusted Snape. When I say, "told", I do not mean, "hinted", I mean that she spelled out for us, with proof, one of the most important and previously unacknowledged facts in the book, which leads us to only one logical conclusion.
I doubt many readers can even recall what happened directly before Harry went to Dumbledore's office before they set off in search of the Horcruxes (I couldn't until a short while ago), so I will recap. Harry has a conversation with a drunken Trelawney, who lets slip one of the most important pieces of information in the entire book:

I well remember my first interview with Dumbledore. I was staying at the Hog's Head. Dumbledore did me the courtesy of calling upon me in my room . I remember I was starting to feel a little odd, I had not eaten that day. but then.but then we were rudely interrupted. by Severus Snape! Yes, there was a commotion outside the door and it flew open, and there was a rather uncouth barman standing with Snape. (HBP ch. 25)

At first glance, it seems that this statement contains only one piece of new information: that Snape was the eavesdropper who overheard the prophecy, but it actually tells us much, much more. These facts prove that Snape overheard not only the first half of the prophecy, but the entire thing. I know this sounds ridiculous, bear with me for a second. In the conversation, there are four things that need to be acknowledged:

1) Trelawney doesn't remember giving the prophecy
2) Severus Snape was the eavesdropper
3) Trelawney remembers this happening
4) Snape was brought into the room, not thrown out as Dumbledore says.



We know that the first statement is true because in her account of what happens, she never mentions giving a prophecy; the time during which the prophecy was made is completely erased from her memory. Not only this, but she also doesn't remember giving a prophecy she made in Prisoner of Azkaban, and Dumbledore tells Harry in Half-Blood Prince that "Only two people know the full contents of the prophecy and they are standing in this broom cupboard." We must, however, take Dumbledore's statement with a grain of salt, because after reading this editorial you'll know that it's not true (Snape heard it too), Dumbledore has no reason not to tell Harry that Trelawney knows about the prophecy, whereas he has countless reasons not to tell Harry that Snape heard all of it, not least of all because of the extreme tension and even more hatred it would create between Harry and Snape. It just doesn't make sense that if Trelawney knew the prophecy, for him to lie about it to Harry.
The second statement is true because not only does Trelawney tell Harry this, but also Dumbledore confirms it directly afterwards in his office. Similarly, we must also accept the fact that Trelawney remembers all of this happening because she's telling Harry about it.
The fourth statement takes the most explanation. After Trelawney tells us that Snape was brought into the room, we have two conflicting statements; in Order of the Phoenix Dumbledore tells Harry, "The eavesdropper was detected only a short way into the prophecy and thrown from the building." (OotP ch. 37) The reason that Trelawney must be correct and Dumbledore lying is that Trelawney remembers it happening; if he had been thrown from the building during the time her prophecy was being made, because she doesn't remember that time, she wouldn't have remembered Snape being there at all. And she clearly does. Not only this, but Trelawney has no reason to lie to Harry, and Dumbledore does: if he says they were thrown out, he wouldn't necessarily know whom the person was, and could easily say that if Harry asked him. He would have to know if they were brought into the room.
The last two pieces of information are what my thesis is hinged upon: Snape must have been brought into the room after Trelawney had finished giving the entire prophecy, otherwise she wouldn't have remembered it, just like she wouldn't have remembered if he had been removed from the Inn during that time. Therefore, if Trelawney remembers it happening, it must have occurred either before or after the prophecy was made. Since we know that Snape heard at least the first half of the prophecy, since he passed it on to Voldemort like Dumbledore says, it cannot have occurred before, since then he wouldn't know any of it at all. There is then only one possibility left, that he was caught after the prophecy was over and heard the whole thing.

But Voldemort only got the first half. That means that that is all Snape gave him, even though he knew the entire thing. I think this completely eliminates the possibility that Snape was, at that time, loyal to Voldemort. If Snape were loyal to Voldemort, there is no way that he would've not only given him less crucial information than he knew, but leave out the fact that the child "will have power the Dark Lord knows not" (OotP ch. 37). In leaving out information that would caution Voldemort against potentially severely injuring or killing himself, Snape must have been making a deliberate attempt to harm him. This is not an act of loyalty by any definition of the word.
As well as showing that Snape wasn't loyal to Voldemort at that point in time, it also explains why Dumbledore trusted Snape: Snape must have only told Voldemort the first half of the prophecy on Dumbledore's orders. It's unlikely and would have been out of character for Dumbledore to have let anyone who heard the Prophecy walk out of that Inn and tell it to the world. Dumbledore clearly approves of the action Snape took, not only because he trusted him up until his dying day, but also because he said, "Luckily. he only heard the first part." (Emphasis added; OotP ch. 37). It would be incomprehensible for Dumbledore to have allowed Snape to take that entire prophecy to Voldemort, but Snape would've been killed had he returned empty-handed, so he allowed Snape to take the first half to Voldemort, either assuming that Voldemort wouldn't have been able to find the Potters (or the Longbottoms) or setting up a trap, each one as likely as the other.
If indeed Snape heard the whole prophecy and only gave Voldemort half on Dumbledore's orders, this has many implications on the story as a whole. First of all, it's pretty safe to say that if Snape was willing to commit an act of such disloyalty against Voldemort, it's unlikely that he would change his mind so drastically and decide he truly does feel loyal to Voldemort (although we're told that it happens the other way around, take Regulus Black for instance). Therefore, Snape would've still been loyal to Dumbledore during the events on the Astronomy Tower in Half-Blood Prince; Snape must've either killed Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders or else because he had no other choice, and didn't truly want him to die. It also implies that we need to look at the things Dumbledore tells Harry more closely, because he flat-out lied.

[Black Drako]

^ I never thought of it like that.

It's very interesting, if this is correct then I wonder what Snape will do to prove his loyalty. Will he use this scenario to prove that he is indeed good.
OR did Snape plan to let Voldy destroy himself at the hands of Harry and then destroy Harry, thus becming the new Dark Lord (This ain't gonna happen *prays*)

[Graham Aker]

its a shame Harry lacks the investigative skills to put those things together, if only Hermione was there...

[Zhealot]

www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com /cry

[Graham Aker]

lol
back when I was still in denial, I frequented that site... but we must all accept the horrible truth that, Dumbledore is most definitely dead.
JKR said it herserlf.

[Trollzilla]

Voldemort and Harry will make the Fusion Dance.

[Vibracobra]

I think if RAB is Regulus Black, it is a huge clue about Snape.

This is just speculation of course, but when Snape was caught, and then Dumbledore vouched for him, i think it cemented snape's loyalty to him forever. only that would have forced snape's hand unwillingly against dumbledore (the strange argument they had in HBP). When Snape got back in amongst the Death Eaters, I think that he began noticed Regulus's hesitancy with tasks and want of getting out (Sirius talking to Harry in OotP). Then he convinced Regulus to switch sides and become a spy as well. One of them then discovered the secret location of the horcrux in the cave. Before they went, Regulus, not being as clever a wizard as Snape, was found out, so they were forced to leave right away (being as you needed two people to secure it). They got it, destroyed it and then Regulus, already being exposed, left his name and purpose. Snape, who still had work to do for dumbledore, did not. Regulus was then caught by the death eaters and killed while Snape resumed his double life. This will probably not be explained, or if it is, it will probably be wrong, but it makes sense. I dunno.

There is no doubt in my my that we will find out why dumbledore vouched for snape and how powerful snape really is (as another half-blood, like harry, voldy, maybe dumbledore??). he is by far the best and most interesting character in the series.

[The Rook]

If you people want to come up with theories about Snape really following Dumbledore's orders.....

What potion's have we seen mentioned throughout every book?

Which of those potions have we not seen applied to plot in some manner?

What potion did Slughorn's class make a batch of?

It's puts a stopper in something....

What if Dumbledore's condition was more fatal than we thought it was?

[Asuma: Konoha's Blade]

The book will make you think Harry's the final horcrux but really he's not and he survives.

[Chatulio]

My prediction is Snape dies giving Harry the opening he needs to beat Voldemort followed by Arthur Weasley dying to save his son Percy from some curse and showing him why Arthur never put his career before his family.

[Graham Aker]

If you people want to come up with theories about Snape really following Dumbledore's orders.....

What potion's have we seen mentioned throughout every book?

Which of those potions have we not seen applied to plot in some manner?

What potion did Slughorn's class make a batch of?

It's puts a stopper in something....

What if Dumbledore's condition was more fatal than we thought it was?
Draught of Living Death? iirc, it puts the drinker in a comatose state...

[Yasha]

Rowling has given us a lot of hints, both in the first 6 books and in the interviews. Among them,

At the Edinburgh book festival, Rowling mentioned that something more would be revealed about Petunia Dursley.

"..there is a little bit more to Aunt Petunia than meets the eye...She is not a squib, although that is a very good guess. Oh, I am giving a lot away here. I am being shockingly indiscreet."

Rowling repeated this comment at the Radio City charity reading in August 2006. She clarified by stating that Aunt Petunia will not perform magic.


Rowling has said that some non-magical character will perform magic late in life under desperate circumstances. However, Petunia will not be the one to perform magic


When Vernon attempts to throw Harry out of their house at the beginning of Order of the Phoenix, Petunia receives a Howler from Dumbledore — "Remember my last, Petunia", which JKR has confirmed is referring to the note he left with one-year-old Harry on their doorstep. Rowling has also said that Dumbledore had corresponded with Petunia before that.


Now I think someone had worked out Petunia's secret. It's very likely a spoiler. Don't say I didn't warn you. Read it at your own risk.




Dudley's Special Role

You did not do as I asked. You have never treated Harry as a son. He has known nothing but neglect and often cruelty at your hands. The best that can be said is that he has at least escaped the appalling damage you have inflicted upon this unfortunate boy sitting between you." [HBP, Dumbledore, Pg 55]

I know that compared to the rest of the book, this trivial piece of information doesn’t seem very important. But can it? While I was reading HBP, this part of the story really jumped at me. Partially because I dint expect it. Dudley is one of the most spoiled kids I have had the pleasure of meeting, even if he is only fictional. While the main focus is currently on trying to figure out whom R.A.B is. I decided to figure out who Dudley was instead. I mean, what do we really know about this character, other than the fact that he is an over weight, dim-witted, bully who likes to torture innocent children? Probably nothing significant, besides the fact that his parents worship him. This is why, when Dumbledore said “The best that can be said is that he has at least escaped the appalling damage you have inflicted upon this unfortunate boy sitting between you” it really surprised me.

It must have been something pretty big to make him say that. What could be worse than what they did to Harry? They did pretty must everything imaginable to him! They starved him, tortured him physically and mentally, forced him to live in a cupboard under the stairs, the incident with Marge’s dog, showing him no compassion or love what so ever, and forced him to wait on them hand and foot his entire life. With all the pain he has endured, I didn’t understand how they could have damaged Dudley more. Then it really hit me. There is more to this story and J. K. probably wants to hit us with this info in the final book or I’m reading too much into it.

“None of the Dursleys said anything. Dudley was frowning slightly, as though he was still trying to work out when he had ever been mistreated. Uncle Vernon looked as thought he has something stuck in his throat; Aunt Petunia, however, was oddly flushed.” [HBP, Pg 56]

In Harry’s wondrous muggle home, Aunt Petunia is the only other person who knows at least a little bit about the magical world. Uncle Vernon and Dudley, though they might know the existence of the magical world, know very little about it. It was Aunt Petunia who knew about Azkaban the previous year. She also knew about the letter Dumbledore had sent her and other little tidbits about the magical world. When Dumbledore mentioned the damage inflicted on Dudley, though Uncle Vernon seems confused, Petunia was “oddly flushed.” It’s obvious that she knows something that neither Dudley nor Vernon knew. If Uncle Vernon had known something, he won’t have said, “Us – mistreat Dudders? What d’you – ?” began Uncle Vernon furiously…” So it’s obvious, like the “Remember my last Petunia,” Petunia is flying solo on this one too.

It took me a little while to figure out what could be big enough to harm Dudley. Then it hit me, it had to be something connected to the magical world. J.K.Rowling once said that, there might be someone receiving their magical powers later on in life. Maybe it’s Dudley. Plus, he being a wizard would cause a big impact on the Dursleys. They tortured and mistreated Harry all his life mostly because he had special abilities or in Aunt Petunia’s words, was a “freak.” How life changing would it be for them, if their precious little Dudders himself was a wizard? Not that he knew about it of course, dim-witted as he is, he probably never noticed. We have seen other dim- witted characters such as Crabbe and Goyle. If their parents weren’t wizards, they probably wouldn’t have known that they were wizards either, seeing that they don’t have any outstanding powers either. So how could Dudley possibly have known, especially since his parents are practically allergic to anything magical? Petunia realizing this probably hid this from her family. If there was an admission letter for Dudley, it was probably destroyed and if there was anyone sent to conform his attendance, he was probably threatened by using Harry’s further living conditions in their household. Maybe that was what the whole “Remember my last” thing was all about. Excusing Dudley from attending Hogwarts in exchange for Harry’s home with the Dursleys, it being the only place where he would be safe from Voldemort.

In OOTP Petunia freaked out when she heard herself say “Azkaban” and Uncle Vernon and Dudley looked at her as if they had never seen her before. She was truly scared. I realized that she desperately tried to prove that she had nothing to do with anything magical. It was hard for her, having a sister who was a witch, and a famous one at that. She is trying her best not to lose her family. She is afraid her family will ostracize her and for this reason she would do anything to prevent it. Treating Harry as an outsider would provide the perfect façade for her to hide behind.

True, there isn’t must evidence supporting this theory but there certainly has to be a reason Dumbledore said what he did. I’m certain Petunia has a bigger hand in this than it seems. Also, in the OOTP the incident with Dudley and the dementor seems pretty suspicious as well. If Dudley was in fact a wizard, it would have to change their perception about the wizarding world altogether. Considering their son would be part of it. He would have to be the missing link. Perhaps the damage that was inflicted had to do with them preventing Dudley from attending Hogwarts and furthermore preventing him from knowing a part of him that he doesn’t even know exists. Or even causing some sort of mental trauma he isn’t aware of. Or perhaps his link to Harry would play an important part in what he is destined for.

In the end of Book 6, while Dumbledore was being cornered by Draco, He put a spell on Harry, preventing him from moving. That spell was broken when the caster himself died. Perhaps, the spell Dumbledore cast on Harry to keep him safe in his muggle home was also broken, making him vulnerable and easy access to Voldemort. Maybe Dudley will show his true powers when Voldy attacks his home. After all that’s how Harry realized his powers. His powers surfaced when he was truly angry or sad. Maybe Voldmort hurting his parents would give Dudley enough power to perform magic he hasn’t been able to perform before, due to his sheltered life. What ever it is, we will just have to wait and see what happens in the next book!

[Sakura]

Harry won't die, Hermione will.

[The Rook]

Draught of Living Death? iirc, it puts the drinker in a comatose state...
Ugh, I thought DoLD only put the user in a fragile condition......

I doubt Duddly is a wizard. So far all of the other wizard's have shown some sort of magical ability as a child; to the best of our knowledge, Duddly never showed any magical ability. I guess it's possible that Harry could have just overshadowed him, but there is another reason why I can't buy it. He never received a letter from Hogwarts. Hermionie was "ever so surprised" to receive a letter from Hogwarts as a child, despite not knowing any wizards at the time.

I'm pretty sure Dumbledore was just referring to how spoiled Duddly is.

**Waiting for your next brain teaser (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=9347094&postcount=119http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=9347094&postcount=119http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=9347094&postcount=119)

EDIT: By the way, the spell protecting the Dursleys will be removed at the age of 17; it's one of the confirmed plot points in the book.

[Ziko]

I dont have any theories or something but I still CANT WAIT till the next book!

It comes out the 21st right?

[Shade]

Hermoine walks the plank.

[bancy]

It comes out the 21st right?

Yes .

[Metric]

^That editorial by Yasha is fascinating. It gives some sort of evidence as to why Snape is good, instead of my gut feeling :)

[tommy198]

Rowling has given us a lot of hints, both in the first 6 books and in the interviews. Among them,










Now I think someone had worked out Petunia's secret. It's very likely a spoiler. Don't say I didn't warn you. Read it at your own risk.




That theory looks very very unlikely to me. If Dudley was indeed a wizard then why could've not see the dementor back in OOTF? Even if he didn't have any real powers even Squibs can see dementors so if he indeed is a wizard he should've seen it. It would also be a very very weak and cheesy plot to go with which I doubt JKR will do.

[Sasori]

Ron, Hermione, Harry, and 2 other random friends are Horcuxes. They die at Kings Cross due to a Terrorist bombing, which Voldemort was also coincidently present at. The End.

[Geg]

^:rotfl :rotfl

[Graham Aker]

btw, the "2 characters will die" is a misquote, she actually says "more than 2"

[Metric]

^is that 2 main characters? Cos i'm pretty sure some death eater fodder noobs are gunna die

[Ema Skye]

10 more days till the book comes out!

My prediction is besides Harry or Voldemort is that Ron and Snape (even though I dont want him too) are going to die.

[Graham Aker]

^is that 2 main characters? Cos i'm pretty sure some death eater fodder noobs are gunna die
well, I was lurking around COSforums and come across this thread:
http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=107461
the interview can be found in youtube...

[Detonator_Fan]

I predict that Luna is going to kick some butt.

[HerRoyalMajesty]

btw, the "2 characters will die" is a misquote, she actually says "more than 2"
Actually what she said was 2 characters who she didn't intend to die originally, dies in Deathly Hallows and one character got a reprieve. You can read the whole interview here (http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2006/0626-ch4-richardandjudy.html).

[Graham Aker]

Actually what she said was 2 characters who she didn't intend to die originally, dies in Deathly Hallows and one character got a reprieve. You can read the whole interview here (http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2006/0626-ch4-richardandjudy.html).
that was a year ago I believe...

here is her latest interview, which was just 5 days ago:
http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2007/0706-bbc-ross.html

Ross: And did you never feel like changing your mind? Because I know sometimes when I've spoken to authors they get to know characters while they're writing them, they know what the want to do with them, but certain characters come to the fore more and you change your feelings.

JKR: I changed it slightly. I have 2 characters that I intended to keep alive, die. But, then that's been taken to mean that only 2 characters die in the book and it's a bloodbath. (Audience gasps)

Ross: It's a bloodbath is it?

JKR: No, it's not a bloodbath but it's more than 2.

[Chatulio]

Well with writers like her who needs villains.

[Metric]

More than 2 deaths then...

I'm betting Hagrid/Lupin/Ginny/One of the trio

Hope its not to sad...

[Ino_Pig]

My god, I really can't wait for this book to be released. :wtf

I'm hoping will find out some information on Harry's eyes. :/

[Metric]

Only 8 days!

Whts so special about his eyes?

[Graham Aker]

its the same colour as his mothers, and JKR said its going to be important...

[Black Drako]

How quickly is everyone here planning to read it in?

I'm going to try and finish it on Saturday.

[Metric]

As quickly as possible, i'll probably get it on the day it comes out and finish it in 1 reading. I really need to finish it quickly, to avoid hearing spoilers, since i heard about Sirius and Dumbledore dying in books 5 and 6 which spoiled it a bit.

[tommy198]

I try and take my time but end up reading them in a day or two anyway. Also if your trying to avoid spoilers why go on the net at all especially forums?

[Black Drako]

Other sources like stupid friends, newspapers etc.

[Graham Aker]

well, I read HBP in 6 hours, so probably the same with DH...

[Black Drako]

6hours?:amazed

How the heck did you read it in 6 hours? You must have skipped a few pages here and there:notrust

[rockst☆r sin]

I'm the type of person who doesn't care about spoilers but this is the very last Harry Potter book. I won't go in the forums, read the newspapers etc. until I'm finish with the book.

I think that Harry shouldn't die for the simple fact that many children might not do too good with that. Shit, I'm a adult and I wouldn't do too good with that. I'm still in denial with Dumbledore.

[Graham Aker]

6hours?:amazed

How the heck did you read it in 6 hours? You must have skipped a few pages here and there:notrust
well, it might not be 6, though I do remember reading it quite fast and not skipping :nod
after buying it near midday, I finished it in the afternoon... so, its around that number.

[Black Drako]

So who else here is going to be sleeping all day and staying awake all night?

[tommy198]

I'm quessing you'll be getting it at midnight then :P

I'll be getting it on Saturday afternoon and will probably finish by Sundy morning smile-big

[Metric]

Yeah it was friends that spoiled 5 and 6 for me so i won't make the same mistake again.

And yeah it'll probably take about 6 hours for me too - i find HP are really easy to read quickly.

[Lux]

Nah, I don't even want to read it in 6 hours. I really want to be able to enjoy the book for a few days, after waiting so long. And since English is not my native language, it'll take longer anyways.

[Black Drako]

The Guardian reveals opening of Deathly Hallows?
The Guardian reveals opening of Deathly Hallows? With extreme caution for lack of authenticity, we bring you this article from The Guardian's online website. It holds, what they say, is the opening to Deathly Hallows dated October 23rd, 2006.

According to their site, this small portion can be seen in video from the upcoming JK Rowling documentary we told you about a few days ago.

We've posted it in the black area below in case it is removed from The Guardian's website. Highlight in between the arrows if you wish to read.

-->'Chapter One. The Dark Lord Ascending. The two men appeared out of nowhere, a few yards apart in the narrow, moonlit lane. For a second they stood quite still, wands pointing at each other's chests: then, recognising each other, they stowed their wands beneath their cloaks and set off, side by side, in the same direction.

"News?", asked the taller of the two.

"The best," replied Snape.'<--

http://www.mugglenet.com/app/news/show/1092

Opinions?

[Graham Aker]

it doesnt really reveal much, imo... though it is interesting, a bit...
I think the the tall wizard is from the Order, most likely a yet to be revealed member, part of the original Order. and Snape's giving him news about Voldemort and the death Eaters... thats what I think about that anyway.

this spoiler just makes me want the book even more!!!
*salivates*