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Yasha
07-15-2007, 01:03 PM
The Guardian reveals opening of Deathly Hallows?
The Guardian reveals opening of Deathly Hallows? With extreme caution for lack of authenticity, we bring you this article from The Guardian's online website. It holds, what they say, is the opening to Deathly Hallows dated October 23rd, 2006.
According to their site, this small portion can be seen in video from the upcoming JK Rowling documentary we told you about a few days ago.
We've posted it in the black area below in case it is removed from The Guardian's website. Highlight in between the arrows if you wish to read.
-->'Chapter One. The Dark Lord Ascending. The two men appeared out of nowhere, a few yards apart in the narrow, moonlit lane. For a second they stood quite still, wands pointing at each other's chests: then, recognising each other, they stowed their wands beneath their cloaks and set off, side by side, in the same direction.
"News?", asked the taller of the two.
"The best," replied Snape.'<--
http://www.mugglenet.com/app/news/show/1092
Opinions?
It sounds real and awesome. :spaz
isanon
07-15-2007, 01:11 PM
*screems like a little girl* god damn that fellt good
im 23 and i screem like a girl over a book spoiler -_-
finaly something else than all those: oh look how smart i am!! i rename the fanfic the seventh horcrux to the deathly hallows and every one will love me!!
(not that the seventh horcrux is a bad read or any thing... on the contrary it is pretty good and harry get laid in it)
Metric
07-15-2007, 02:42 PM
Oh crap lol almost read them
The Drunken Monkey
07-15-2007, 07:32 PM
I still need to read the 5th and 6th one first. xD I'll get started soon.
Mr. Obvious
07-15-2007, 08:19 PM
I still need to read the 5th and 6th one first. xD I'll get started soon.
sorry if theres a forum for this or something but i havent seen one but can i ask from what anime is your avatar and sig from ive seen something similiar and it looks very interesting..
dilbot
07-15-2007, 10:16 PM
^ pm the guy for this kind of answer...
I am not going to read it!!!!!!!! RAWR all my might! GRAAA!!!!!! *leaves*
*comesback* sorry, phone.... *reads* OMG
Inner-Kyuubi
07-15-2007, 10:32 PM
lets see...
1. Harry kills voldemort after finding all of the horcruxes
(my question is how will harry know the spell to destroy them...)
2. Wormtail sacrifices his life for harry(paying back his life debt[third book])
3. R.A.B. is regalus black
that's really all i can think of now...
So, aside from that 'opening', have any legitimate spoilers been found online? Because I seriously need to decide whether or not to just unplug my internet for the next week.
As far as my predictions; I'll put those up in a hefty dissertation sometime either tomorrow or Tuesday. I still haven't quite decided what's going to happen with Snape or which Weasley will die.
Graham Aker
07-16-2007, 02:46 AM
nope no other spoilers...
anyway, Im going to log off until Ive finished with book 7... I really cant wait!
predictions:
1. Hogwarts will re-open
2. Harry will not be attending, but he will go to Hogwarts to deceive the Weasley's, the Order etc...
3. he talks with Aberforth before leaving to search the remaining Horcroux'
4. Ron and Hermione will be with him
5. he will call Kreacher for assistance...
6. cant really think of anything else so Im just going to get to the end, Harry sacrifices himself to kill Voldemort, both seemingly die, but Harry returns to the world of the living through the Veil with Dumbledore, Sirius, Lily and James' adn the others that Voldemort have killed's assistance...
-lotabyss, logging off-
Freiza
07-16-2007, 02:59 AM
i believe Harry will die at the end...it's going to happen because Voldemort IS James potter.
drache
07-16-2007, 12:01 PM
6hours?:amazed
How the heck did you read it in 6 hours? You must have skipped a few pages here and there:notrust
Very easily, you eat alot the day before, set aside everything and read and read.
I plan on having DH done by the end of saturday as long as I get it that morning.
Chatulio
07-16-2007, 10:06 PM
So, aside from that 'opening', have any legitimate spoilers been found online? Because I seriously need to decide whether or not to just unplug my internet for the next week.
As far as my predictions; I'll put those up in a hefty dissertation sometime either tomorrow or Tuesday. I still haven't quite decided what's going to happen with Snape or which Weasley will die.
Stay away from this section until the book is out spoilers are springing left and right D=
Beau Logan
07-16-2007, 10:57 PM
I don't know why, but I think one of the horcruxes is a person.
NOT Harry, but someone...*shifty look*
Dragoness_Noush
07-17-2007, 01:20 PM
I don't know why, but I think one of the horcruxes is a person.
NOT Harry, but someone...*shifty look*
Yeah I think that too >__>
and I still fail to believe Sirius is really gone :(
Beau Logan
07-17-2007, 08:24 PM
Yeah I think that too >__>
and I still fail to believe Sirius is really gone :(
We're in Sirius Denial. :laugh
Bad pun but, eh.
So this here is my obnoxiously long dissertation of how I think the final book is going to go. I've examined a bunch of characters, as well as my choices for deaths and key plot elements. The only thing I didn't touch on was Sirius, because I really didn't think it'd make much of a difference by now.
Keep in mind while reading this that I took over a week to write and I started with the Weasleys, then characters in order from least to most relevant (Tonks first, Ron & Hermione last) and ended with the death list, Harry and Snape, so things stated in more minor characters are overruled by those three. I don't think there's too many contradictions, but there might be one or two and I'm too lazy to proofread it right now.
A few notes
The word scar is in the last sentence, and possibly the final word in the story. This really doesn’t mean much.
A few months ago, JK Rowling said that 2 characters who weren’t meant to die end up dying. In addition to that, one character got a reprieve from death.
When she told her husband the final death list, his reaction to one of the deaths was “Oh no, not that one!”
The Characters
Harry
I believe that, as much as I really don’t want it to be true, Harry is a horocrux. Between their similarities and psychic link, Rowling has given a good amount of evidence that Harry is actually the final piece of Voldemort’s soul. Despite my full belief that he is the final horocrux, I’m seriously hoping that it’s all just a red herring. He’ll find this out from either Snape or Wormtail, with Wormtail being more likely. As part of the life debt, Wormtail will help him destroy the horocrux instead of doing what the Dumbledore painting will have taught him about horocruxes and how to find/destroy them.
All dark elements and surprises aside, this is a children’s story at heart. Since this is the case, I do not believe Harry will die. It’s definitely a possibility, but I don’t see it happening. I believe he will destroy Voldemort without his wand (probably with the Gryffindor sword) and he will go on to live a happy life with Ginny, his friends and the family he never had, the Weasleys.
Ron & Hermione
I haven’t really given these two much thought. I don’t believe either of them will die, and they will eventually get married in the epilogue.
However, if something were to happen to either one of these two (i.e. death), I’ll say it’s Ron more than Hermione. I’m going on record to say that I doubt either of them will die and that these two, Harry and Ginny will all live happily ever after. But I remember reading at interview with JK Rowling that said when she told her husband who dies in the book, he said something along the lines of “Oh no! Not that one!” If I was an author and I wanted to include that shocking last death, Ron would be my pick. I doubt Ron actually does die, but if there is to be one shocking and unexpected death, then it’d be him.
If the unthinkable happens and he actually does die, expect whoever kills him to get their ass owned hard by Hermione. That would be her shining moment in the story…outside of figuring out an impossible puzzle, anyway.
Ginny
Ginny could go one of two ways: either she stays at school like a good girl or she winds up going with the other three. If she doesn’t tag along, then we’ll probably only see her in the epilogue, unless she gets dragged into things by the Death Eaters or trouble comes to her (the final battle happening at Hogwarts, for example).
If she ends up going with them, then she will probably be a key factor in the final battle with Voldemort. Dumbledore always told Harry that his greatest weapon is love, so having Ginny present (and in possible danger) would provide him with the necessary strength to outdo Voldemort. Under the assumption that only Ron and Harry are present during the battle, then they would serve as the reminder for his love. Ginny would provide that extra boost that would guarantee victory.
Will she tag along? Yes, I think so. But I doubt she’ll be present during the final battle- that is just an idea I had. Harry will probably do battle alone, but the other three will be near enough that the thought of them gives Harry enough of this mysterious love power that he needs to win.
Voldemort
He will die. There’s not much else to it. I think there’s the possibility that Ollivander will have crafted a new wand for him, but there will not be much else. If he personally takes anyone out, it will be Wormtail, and possibly Snape.
Snape
There’s a lot to his character, but I’m going to be short. I say he’s still on the Order’s side and only acting under Dumbledore’s orders. As much as I want Snape to truly be Voldemort’s most loyal servant, I’m 100% certain he is not. At the very least, he’s playing for his own gain.
Will he die? I’m not really sure. Since Rowling has said that one character got a reprieve from death, there’s a very good chance that it’s Snape. This death is a toss up for me, so I don’t really have an opinion on which scenario it is.
During the final battle Harry will be on his own (as he always seems to be during battle) against Voldemort. Snape will turn on Voldemort; I am certain of that. Depending on whether or not he dies, I see two scenarios. If he were to die, he would die protecting Harry and, in doing so, providing Harry with another shield like his mother gave him. If
Snape lives, then I think he will be the one to destroy the horocrux Nagini.
Draco Malfoy
There are two possibilities for Draco. The first situation is that Draco will find himself on Voldemort’s bad side for having failed his mission. This will most likely lead to him running and trying to hide. If this is the case, we will see very little of Draco (if anything at all) during the last book. There is a slight possibility that he will realize how far he’s gotten himself in and will want out, possibly seeking refuge with Harry. Of course, considering what happened at the end of Book 6, Harry will refuse such a thing, regardless of that small twinge of pity he had for Draco.
The other, and more likely, scenario will see Snape asking Voldemort to let Draco off the hook as a personal favor. Now that Snape is the right hand man and most reliable Death Eater, Voldemort may allow this, as long as Snape is shaping Draco up to be a proper Death Eather. If this is the case, we may see a little of Draco as Harry gets closer to the end and they have a small battle.
So what’s going to happen? I think Snape will protect Draco, but he won’t have much of a role in the last book. There may be the previously mentioned skirmish with Harry, Ron or Hermione, but don’t count on much beyond that.
There’s also the question of whether or not he’ll actually survive through the book. None of the three main kids will end up killing him, so if Draco does in fact die, it will be from a Death Eater and it will be off camera (so to speak).
Wormtail
This guy is as likely to die as Voldemort. He’s got that ‘life debt’ with Harry that was established back in Book 3, so this debt will undoubtedly have him sacrifice his own life in Harry’s place. Either he will die when he sacrifices himself for Harry (be it to save Harry or just to defy Voldemort) or after he helps Harry destroy the horocrux in his own body.
If Harry is really a horocrux (and he most likely is), then Wormtail will have a way for Harry to destroy the part of Voldemort’s soul and not kill himself in the process. Either the destruction will involve Wormtail sacrificing his own life in the process, or Voldemort will kill him for his treachery after the piece has been destroyed. The actual death of Wormtail is the toss up.
Bellatrix Lestrange
She will probably end up back in Azkaban by the end of the story. She will probably end up being the reason for one of the deaths and at some point there will likely be a confrontation with Neville and he will get revenge for his parents without using an unforgivable curse and/or killing her.
Lucius and Narcissa Malfoy
I say that we shouldn’t expect much from them, if anything at all. Lucius will stay in Azkaban. The most that would happen is that he’ll be killed while locked away. Narcissa may end up going on the run with Draco (if he were to actually run), but I believe that she will continue to be a Death Eater and worry about her son.
Hagrid
Unfortunately, Hagrid has basically become a throw away character. I really don’t see him doing much in the final book. It’s entirely possible that the death of Dumbledore puts him in a rage state that takes him to a fight with some Death Eaters, Snape or even Voldemort himself. Unfortuntely, even if Dumbledore’s death does light a fire in Hagrid, he’s become expendable enough that getting into a fight only increases his chance of death, giant blood or not. There is a chance he may not die, just because he seems to be such an obvious choice.
Too long, finishing on next post.
More!
The Other Weasleys
Now this one is a difficult one. There are so many to choose from, and it’s pretty certain that one will die. Let’s break them down.
Arthur and Molly are parental figures to Harry in pretty much every sense. As we’ve seen with James, Lilly, Sirius and Dumbledore, Voldemort is slowly taking away everyone that Harry could consider a parent. Is he done with that, or will he keep going? Of the Weasley family, these two are the most likely to die because of that link, and also because they are fully-fledged members of the Order. Of the two, Arthur would seem to be the less important character and more likely to get the axe. However, he has already had his near-death scare in Book 5.
Molly constantly worries that her family is in danger of dying, but we’ve never seen her express the same fear for herself. Is that foreshadowing or a red herring? We’re shown the images of her dead family from a boggart and she drags her magic clock around everywhere in Book 6, leading us to believe that this could be foreshadowing. But, seeing as Arthur has already had his death scare, this could just be a red herring so that her death will be even more shocking.
If future deaths are based on who’s already had a run-in already, then Arthur, Bill, Ron(see other notes on him) and (to an extent) Ginny are all safe. This leaves Molly, Charlie, Percy, George and Fred.
Of the listed, I’d say Charlie is the most likely, since he’s basically a throw away character. We’ve seen and heard very little from him, so his death would have the largest impact on other characters, while maintaining the smallest impact on the readers and the actual story.
I say that Fred and George are in the clear and have no chance of dying before the end of the story. As comic relief characters who mind their own business, I wouldn’t expect either of them to die. If one did die, however, the change it would be to the other would be an interesting addition to the story.
This leaves Percy as the remaining possible death. He is a toss up: he could die and his lesson would be that abandoning family and friends in favor of ambition leads to misery, or he survives and the death of a family member makes him realize his mistakes. I think it will be the latter.
I firmly believe a Weasley will die, and I believe it will happen well before the halfway point, probably during Bill and Fleur’s wedding. If I were writing this story, that is exactly how I would get the story really moving. After finding out what Petunia knows and stopping at Godric’s Hollow, Harry would go to the wedding and then the story would pick up. I can’t think of a Death Eater that would have to motive to do such a thing (unless Fenrir comes to finish the job with Bill or a random Bellatrix appearance), but I think that this is where a Weasley (and probably a member of the Order) will die. If this were to happen, then both Ron and Ginny would be at Harry’s side throughout the book.
So the question is; who would die if that were to happen? I’m voting for Charlie, Molly & Arthur (both, not one or the other) or, at a distant third place, Percy. Charlie is my first bet though. He hasn’t really done much for the story as far as we’re concerned, and his relationship with the other characters is one that would heavily affect them.
Neville
I really don’t think Neville will have a whole lot to do in this book. Aside from being the one to bring Bellatrix to justice, he doesn’t have much of a story anymore. At the end of Book 5, he seemed like he would have a huge role in the final conflict, but that’s been all but shot down by JK Rowling.
I think I remember her mentioning somewhere that one of Harry’s friends would become a teacher at Hogwarts when she was asked if Harry would become the DADA teacher. I’m going to go ahead and say that Neville eventually becomes the Herbology teacher and later, Headmaster.
Luna
Luna won’t have much of a role in this one. She’ll be in about as much as she was Book 6. She could always end up with Neville, but the story isn’t about characters hooking up, so it shouldn’t be mentioned at all.
Lupin & Tonks
One of them is going to die, I think. Regardless of who it is, I think it will be an off-camera death that we only learn of after the fact. With Lupin being in with the werewolves, I’m betting it’s him and it will be Fenrir who does it. Tonks has a fair chance of dying, but I don’t think she will. Her character is such that she is completely expendable, but Lupin will mean much more to the story.
Random Bits
Dumbledore’s ‘iron clad’ reason for trusting Snape is that they created an unbreakable vow, with Aberforth as the witness. I think Harry will find this out from Aberforth.
R.A.B. is Regulus Black and the locket is in 12 Grimmauld Place. We should all have a good idea of that though. Also, he had Kreacher go to the cave with him to get the locket and forced him to drink the potion.
Harry is, at the very least, distantly related to Godric Gryffindor. He may or may not actually discover this, but it will be heavily hinted at.
If future children are mentioned in the epilogue, Harry will have either a son named James, a son named Sirius, a red-haired daughter named Lily, or a combination of them.
Someone is supposed to start using magic late in life during a desperate situation. The only one that possibly fits that is Mrs. Figg.
I think Ollivander will have created a new wand for Voldemort more but, despite this, Harry will still defeat him without using Avada Kedavara or even his wand. It will probably be the Gryffindor sword, but it would be friggin’ awesome if he embraced his muggle half and used a muggle weapon (i.e. a gun).
The Official Squirrelly Death List
In order of likeliness of dying:
Voldemort
Wormtail
Charlie Weasley
Molly and/or Arthur Weasley
Severus Snape
Hagrid
Remus Lupin
Fenrir Greyback
Mrs. Figg
Kingsley Shacklebolt
Bellatrix Lestrange
Ron Weasley (for the shock) or Percy Weasley (tied odds)
Mad Eye Moody
Harry Potter
Draco and/or Narcissa Malfoy
Tonks
Neville Longbottom
Lucius Malfoy
Everyone else (Hermione, Ginny, Luna, the professors, etc..)
I say the first two are guaranteed, with one of the next two being most likely. Snape is a toss-up, but more likely than anyone else. After that, I’m just playing odds. Ron and Percy are places over Harry, Draco, etc. because of the pure shock value of Ron dying and Percy’s chances as the third Weasley. I doubt Ron will die, but it would be the best choice for a shock death. Harry is low on the list because it’s far more likely he gets a happy ending with Ginny.
The ones in bold are the ones that I’m officially picking, despite their odds. Ron is a special case though. I’m including him as the ‘shocking’ death but I don’t think it’ll actually happen, so I’m not really sure if that should count as a prediction.
I left the school teachers out of this whole thing because I really don't expect much from them. Although, with my luck, the ones I've overlooked will probably have the most important parts.
There we go. That's it. I tend to be pretty good at picking out the ending to a story, but when it's something this intricate and long, I'll just have to see how I hold up this weekend. I'm hoping for at least 50%.
Okay. You can all laugh now.
Yasec Renische
07-18-2007, 02:33 AM
Let me save you the trouble.
SNAPE DIES (PAGE 658).
DOBBY DIES (PAGE 476).
MAD-EYE MOODY DIES (PAGE 78).
COLLIN CREEVY DIES (PAGE 694).
SORTING HAT IS BURNED TO DEATH BY VOLDEMORT (PAGE 732).
FRED DIES.
TONKS DIES.
LUPIN DIES.
VOLDEMORT DIES (PAGE 744).
HARRY’S SCAR GOES AWAY.
HARRY MARRIES GINNY AND HAS 3 KIDS.
RON MARRIES HERMOINE AND HAS 2 KIDS.
MALFOY GETS MARRIED AND HAS A KID.
NEVILLE KILLS NAGINI AND BECOMES A HERBOLOGY PROFESSOR.
If you didnt want to read that and you did, game, blouses.
The Rook
07-18-2007, 03:03 AM
DO NOT CLICK HIS SPOILER TAG. THOSE ARE REAL SPOILERS FROM THE BOOK. THE BOOK WAS PUTT ON TORRENTS, THE INTERNET IS NOT SAFE.
I've read about the first 300 or so pages, and one of his casualties has already appeared. He's also missing one though. Please people, if you want to read it early, go ahead, but don't ruin things for others. You may find the satisfaction your lives may be missing from ruining the fun others have, but it really gets old.
Yasec Renische
07-18-2007, 03:09 AM
Just doing my duty, ruining books, enjoying life.
Procyon
07-18-2007, 09:06 AM
You know on the cover, where it shows Harry and Voldemort with a bunch of shadows behind them, and they're like, behind a curtain in the Roman coloseum/ an amphitheatre? That's totally in the Department of Mysteries, in the Death Room, behind the Veil. At least that's my guess. And I think Harry will see Sirius again there.
Black Drako
07-18-2007, 09:22 AM
I heard that the Sirius didn't die by falling down the veil in the movie. If this is true then maybe it might not be that important.
Anyway we'll find all the answers in 3 days!
Senyth
07-18-2007, 10:07 AM
Let me save you the trouble.
SNAPE DIES (PAGE 658).
DOBBY DIES (PAGE 476).
MAD-EYE MOODY DIES (PAGE 78).
COLLIN CREEVY DIES (PAGE 694).
SORTING HAT IS BURNED TO DEATH BY VOLDEMORT (PAGE 732).
FRED DIES.
TONKS DIES.
LUPIN DIES.
VOLDEMORT DIES (PAGE 744).
HARRY’S SCAR GOES AWAY.
HARRY MARRIES GINNY AND HAS 3 KIDS.
RON MARRIES HERMOINE AND HAS 2 KIDS.
MALFOY GETS MARRIED AND HAS A KID.
NEVILLE KILLS NAGINI AND BECOMES A HERBOLOGY PROFESSOR.
If you didnt want to read that and you did, game, blouses.
Woah!! Were thosre really true?? If those were, how did you find out about it? I don't mind spoilers. I like being spoiled. :P
Dog Rapist
07-18-2007, 12:17 PM
Prediction: Harry's gonna get attacked BEFORE his birthday. During the attack, either Tonks, Hagrid and/or Moody will die.
The Ministry is probably gonna be taken over real early.
And I think we haven't heard the last from Rita Skeeter.
Maybe Voldemort will figure something out to counter Priori Incantatem.
Anything else? I'm fresh out.
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