View Full Version : Pein and Konan vs. Kisame and Nidaime Hokage
Mizukage Hitsugaya 10
11-18-2008, 02:22 PM
Location: Kirigakure no Sato
State of Mind: someone asked for this but it makes no sense to me, they are Shinobi, they are always in the state of mind to kill on sight
Restrictions: none (no Pein cannot bring back bodies in the midst of combat, dumb idea :P )
Distance: 100 meters
ssjhaider
11-18-2008, 02:46 PM
dont thik its possible to overwhelm kisame.
anyways. kisame creats a lot of water then make 100s of clones. the human realm loses to kisame in a taijutsu fight. and since there are many clones he loses even worse. in demon realms part he has an openening after every use of his tech. with that many kisame's he will be caught by something. konan is usely she gets wet and melts away. the nidaim was good at tai, his jutsus were good and his protection unbeatable. so he can slo hold his own against any pain. absorbing pain dies agaist 2 kisame clones and gets ripped to little tiny pieces. so there will be no absorption.
the beast pains summons are so weak that they get killed by one of sakura's puches so a few kisame clones (i mean a few hundred) can take care of all of them one at a time since he can only summon one at a time. then he will be found and killed.or he could just hide and watch the doom of his fellow pains, whatever suits him.
i dont see pain and konan winning since konan is useless against water i would suggest just taking her off the team.
Uchiha Mizukage
11-18-2008, 03:03 PM
We need location, distance, restrictions if any, and state of mind. I dont think we have enough knowlege of konan or nidame either. But Im pretty sure Team Pein would win without restrictions since he keeps bringing back fallen bodies and nobody has been able to completely destroy one, without it coming back. Stupid Rinnegan :notrust
Monzaemon
11-18-2008, 03:31 PM
pain absorbs there attacks. then uses human and demon realm to over welm kisame
Absorption uses chakra. Kisame's samehada > absorption.
Pein probably wins, but team Kisame takes out at least 5 bodies.
Kisame's Mizu bunshins and Suiro no jutsu are a nice trick and an advantage so they can fight the bodies individually.
The only body that presents a threat in 1v1 is Deva Pein. But I'm sure they would figure Shinra Tensei's weakness soon enough, then use Kisame's sharks or something to get him.
Itachi's Apprentice 3
11-18-2008, 04:23 PM
I would give this to the Suiton team. Any Suiton attack is bad new's for Konan as she wont be able to use her paper power's :zaru if she's all wet. As for Pein Kisame could handle him with some difficulty as he can simply flood the battle field to give himself the advantage and use Mizu Bunshin's to give him the numerical edge over Pein.
Euraj
11-18-2008, 05:41 PM
Pain could solo, but why let Konan sit around when there are two opponents to play with? I'll proudly lol at anyone who says water automatically defeats Konan because we've seen her still use some of her abilities while wet before. Regardless, I doubt there could be a situation where she can be beaten before attacking, and Shikigami no Mai certainly doesn't look like the easiest thing to defend against.
As for Pain, neither of these guys can touch him. Let's remember Jiraiya, the man Kisame admitted inferiority to, couldn't handle three bodies without Fukasaku and Shima playing their trump card. Kisame has nothing to stand up to the simultaneous barrage of the Animal Realms summons and the Asura Realms gunpower. Throw in Shinra Tensei and it's overkill. Even if he escapes underwater, Deva Realm can find him and fry him from above. All we've seen from Tobirama is a bunch of spitting, so I can hardly see him doing any better than Kisame.
Absorption uses chakra. Kisame's samehada > absorption.Actually, the databook says his Jutsu works by reversing the chakra inside of his body, so Samehada pretty much, doesn't affect it all. As if Konan and the other five bodies would allow them to coordinate something like that against Hungry Ghost anyway.
Kisame could solo . He floods the field and defeats Konan . Then Nidaime and Kisame with water clones + Samehada stomp .
SoLiOZuZ
11-18-2008, 06:36 PM
Kisame solos. Nidamie solos.
Kisame would easily flood the area with water chakra and then ultra rape Konan and then continuously bash Pain easily.
Grimmjowsensei
11-18-2008, 06:49 PM
Kisame would ejaculate on Konan, rendering her useless while Nidame fills all the space with water. Both Kisame and Nidame would spam endless suiton jutsus till Pain dies.
:dupe
Deaf Ninja Reaper
11-18-2008, 06:51 PM
Pftt. Konon can sit down on the ground and play with herself which watching his guy Pein pwning the shit out of Kisame and Nidaime....
Bitch
11-18-2008, 08:17 PM
What's with the Konan hate? Water doesn't make her useless.
We haven't even seen her go all out yet.
Nikushimi
11-18-2008, 08:54 PM
dont thik its possible to overwhelm kisame.
anyways. kisame creats a lot of water then make 100s of clones. the human realm loses to kisame in a taijutsu fight. and since there are many clones he loses even worse. in demon realms part he has an openening after every use of his tech. with that many kisame's he will be caught by something. konan is usely she gets wet and melts away. the nidaim was good at tai, his jutsus were good and his protection unbeatable. so he can slo hold his own against any pain. absorbing pain dies agaist 2 kisame clones and gets ripped to little tiny pieces. so there will be no absorption.
the beast pains summons are so weak that they get killed by one of sakura's puches so a few kisame clones (i mean a few hundred) can take care of all of them one at a time since he can only summon one at a time. then he will be found and killed.or he could just hide and watch the doom of his fellow pains, whatever suits him.
i dont see pain and konan winning since konan is useless against water i would suggest just taking her off the team.
^I agree with this post.
Other than that, Konan would flash her epic breats. Kisame would get extremely horny and the resulting erection would impale Nidaime and Pain by accident killing them both. Kisame would then fuck Konan lifeless.
Kisame wins. :dupe
But to be serious, Nidaime isn't all that much help here. At best he can hold off or defeat Konan while Kisame makes a decent sparring partner of the Pain Rikudou. However, until Kisame shows some Isonade-style feats, he really doesn't have any way of beating the Pain Rikudou by himself right now. He loses after taking down maybe four or five bodies.
the box
11-18-2008, 10:15 PM
pain absorbs all the water then makes it rain and lighting fuck kisame sinc he can use all elements. then human realm rips some soul :LOs
SoLiOZuZ
11-19-2008, 12:51 AM
In all honesty guys, I don't think that Pain could've defeated a Hokage and a definite hokage-level ninja like Kisame working together. Jiraiya has been shown to be a much more able ninja than Kisame, however, if Jiraiya had Kisame as an ally against Pain, Pain would have lost. If Jiraiya had any ninja outside of Ino Yamanaka, Pain would have lost. I'm still flipping bricks over the "They're using their immortality to their advantage" line.
Nidaime is seriously being underestimated here, there comes times when people just have to take things on 'faith' and this is one of them, even though he hasn't displayed a variety of techniques, we all know what the previous hokages were like. Hashirama was thought to have stood at the top of the ninja world, Sarutobi was definitely the strongest and Minato's feats speak for himself as we all saw in Kakashi Gaiden. To think that the Nidaime would not be in that category is a complete underestimation of his abilities.
Hiroshi
11-19-2008, 01:01 AM
Not enough knowledge on Nindaime Hokage. *Recycling*
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