View Full Version : Kakuzu vs. Naruto
Juracule Mihawk
10-30-2008, 10:20 AM
This is base Naruto after his Fuuton-training, he's 100%. He fights Kakuzu, an S-rank criminal who fought the First Hokage himself, and dominated Kakashi, Chouji and Ino.
Location: VotE
Restrictions: no Kyuubi & Gamabunta.
Rules: everything is allowed, no knowledge about each other abillities.
Distance: 35 metres.
Who wins this battle? Konoha's number one unpredictable shinobi or the "immortal" Kakuzu?
grahf
10-30-2008, 10:32 AM
Kakuzu. Naruto can't win without his teamates.
unless he goes KN3 or KN4
>.<
Har har.
Naruto can't even use FRS without the Kyuubi. Kakuzu stomps the shit out of him without releasing a single mask.
haydenKyuubi
10-30-2008, 11:18 AM
Kakuzo flawless victory!
Sasuke_Bateman
10-30-2008, 11:21 AM
I think Naruto has a chance here.
To get raped :LOS
-Maya-
10-30-2008, 11:27 AM
Naruto sends Clones in to assess his target learnd from him
Naruto then begins his attack manouvere 1 KB feint later and an FRS Kakuzu is finished
Har har.
Naruto can't even use FRS without the Kyuubi. Kakuzu stomps the shit out of him without releasing a single mask.
He only had to use it because he'd just came from training for a long time and had already used it a few times that day.
He could use it without the Kyuubi
Naruto sends Clones in to assess his target learnd from him
Naruto then begins his attack manouvere 1 KB feint later and an FRS Kakuzu is finished
Naruto doesn't have the chakra to use FRS without the Kyuubi.
Naruto doesn't have the chakra to use FRS without the Kyuubi.
Scan plox??
Han Solo
10-30-2008, 11:39 AM
Har har.
Naruto can't even use FRS without the Kyuubi. Kakuzu stomps the shit out of him without releasing a single mask.
By doing what exactly?
Scan plox??
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/339/15/
Naruto hates depending on the Kyuubi. He wouldn't be using it if he didn't need it.
By doing what exactly?
Beating the shit out of him. He's faster, he's stronger, and he has tentacles.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/339/15/
Naruto hates depending on the Kyuubi. He wouldn't be using it if he didn't need it.
Yes but he only used it because he had already performed the jutsu several times that day and had been training as Kakuzu comments on him already being beaten up.
-Maya-
10-30-2008, 11:48 AM
Naruto doesn't have the chakra to use FRS without the Kyuubi.
lol What are you on?
Yes but he only used it because he had already performed the jutsu several times that day and had been training as Kakuzu comments on him already being beaten up.
lol What are you on?
FRS is a technique that requires a massive amount of chakra.
I'll believe that Naruto can use it without the Kyuubi's aid when I see it.
Even if he can use it here, this fight will play out exactly like it did in the manga, but, oops!, there is nobody to save Naruto after his failed initial charge. Commence tentacle-ing.
Han Solo
10-30-2008, 12:04 PM
Beating the shit out of him. He's faster
Completely negated by Naruto's use of Kage Bunshin. Hell even with superior speed, Naruto outmaneuvered him.
he's stronger
True, but it has little impact if he isn't going to hit the real Naruto.
and he has tentacles.
Once again, Naruto already showed his use of Kage Bunshin stops this.
Even if he can use it here, this fight will play out exactly like it did in the manga, but, oops!, there is nobody to save Naruto after his failed initial charge. Commence tentacle-ing.
Actually Kakuzu won't be in long range mode and have his hearts on his shoulders so the Kage Bunshins won't get destroyed the same and thus it won't play out exactly the same way :zaru
Completely negated by Naruto's use of Kage Bunshin. Hell even with superior speed, Naruto outmaneuvered him.
PLOT SUX
Naruto didn't outmaneuver him... not physically, anyway. He tricked him into thinking a KB was the real him and vice versa.
True, but it has little impact if he isn't going to hit the real Naruto.
Naruto hasn't used TKB to fight in forever. If he only makes the four or five necessary for his maneuvering, Kakuzu will smack down the right one eventually.
Once again, Naruto already showed his use of Kage Bunshin stops this.
Did he, now? (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/340/009/)
Kinjishi
10-30-2008, 12:17 PM
Kakuzu won't be a victim of the plot this time around. Naruto has no chance; especially, if Kakuzu has all his masks released. Naruto will be overwhelmed, as he is not accustomed to dealing with such high level elemental jutsu. Naruto would never get the chance to pull off FRS, as Kakuzu would keep him on his toes. If Naruto even makes one mistake, he's dead.
TheGreatSage
10-30-2008, 12:22 PM
Kakazu would defeat Naruto....
But it's just a fate's twist that kakuzu lost to Naruto...
haydenKyuubi
10-30-2008, 12:24 PM
We saw his jutsu just fucked 2 of Kakuzo's hearts and he had 5 at the beginning. So the (theoretic) only way Naruto could win was if he landed 2/3 rasen-shuriken on Kakuzo.
But now i'm thinking that with just one FRS hit on Kakuzu, he could maintain 3 hearts but his body would stay wrecked in the ground because of the brutal impact that jutsu has, don't you think?
I mean, just like it happened in the manga, he stayed alive because he had one more heart, but he could have 2, 3 more, whatever. The body was already completely shattered. So 1 FRS hit, game over for Kakuzo. Naruto wins.
Itachi's Apprentice 3
10-30-2008, 01:23 PM
Without PNJ or Kyuubi Narutu dies :zaru Kakuzu is more experienced( Imean the guy even fought Shodai and lived to tell about it :blinditachi) and more abilities.
-Maya-
10-30-2008, 03:37 PM
FRS is a technique that requires a massive amount of chakra.
I'll believe that Naruto can use it without the Kyuubi's aid when I see it.
Your a Fool what you don't understand is that Naruto was in base mode against kakuzu, The Way the seal is designed on Naruto Kyuubi is always leaking into Naruto regardless
Secondly it was never confirmed naruto used the Kyuubi against Kakuzu, yes his eyes were slit like but his hands had not become claws or his whiskers darkened and there was no visible Chakra
What you Saw was Naruto's Base mode, as for seeing it if you had an ounce of common sense you would accept that Naruto can perform FRS because Yamato stated it clearly
Even if he can use it here, this fight will play out exactly like it did in the manga, but, oops!, there is nobody to save Naruto after his failed initial charge. Commence tentacle-ing.
No The only reason that Naruto did not One shot kakuzu is a stroke of luck for Kakuzu If they fought again it wouldn't happen again and that means that Kakuzu would be oneshotted
Kakuzu won't be a victim of the plot this time around. Naruto has no chance; especially, if Kakuzu has all his masks released. Naruto will be overwhelmed, as he is not accustomed to dealing with such high level elemental jutsu. Naruto would never get the chance to pull off FRS, as Kakuzu would keep him on his toes. If Naruto even makes one mistake, he's dead.
Kakuzu wasn't a Victim of Plot. He Benefitted from Plot as you call it, If it wasn't for Plot Kakuzu would have been Oneshotted instead of being double striked like he was
We saw his jutsu just fucked 2 of Kakuzo's hearts and he had 5 at the beginning. So the (theoretic) only way Naruto could win was if he landed 2/3 rasen-shuriken on Kakuzo.
But now i'm thinking that with just one FRS hit on Kakuzu, he could maintain 3 hearts but his body would stay wrecked in the ground because of the brutal impact that jutsu has, don't you think?
I mean, just like it happened in the manga, he stayed alive because he had one more heart, but he could have 2, 3 more, whatever. The body was already completely shattered. So 1 FRS hit, game over for Kakuzo. Naruto wins.
Exactly althought His Hearts were not all destroy his body was Even if the Hearts survived a FRS his body would not be able to continue the fight
Without PNJ or Kyuubi Narutu dies :zaru Kakuzu is more experienced( Imean the guy even fought Shodai and lived to tell about it :blinditachi) and more abilities.
Lets Just forget the Fact that The only PNJ in that Fight saved Kakuzu from being TKO'd in one hit
Your a Fool what you don't understand is that Naruto was in base mode against kakuzu, The Way the seal is designed on Naruto Kyuubi is always leaking into Naruto regardless
Secondly it was never confirmed naruto used the Kyuubi against Kakuzu, yes his eyes were slit like but his hands had not become claws or his whiskers darkened and there was no visible Chakra
What you Saw was Naruto's Base mode, as for seeing it if you had an ounce of common sense you would accept that Naruto can perform FRS because Yamato stated it clearly
Bullshit. Scans or it didn't happen.
Why would Naruto just spontaneously show the Kyuubi's traits in base mode if he wasn't making use of any of its power?
Kinjishi
10-30-2008, 04:07 PM
I get the feeling that -Maya- is reading an entirely different manga.
Kakuzu wasn't a Victim of Plot. He Benefitted from Plot as you call it, If it wasn't for Plot Kakuzu would have been Oneshotted instead of being double striked like he was
Every ninja that tried to face Kakuzu was brought to within an inch of death. Izumo, Kotetsu, and Shikamaru would have died. Kakashi would have been obliterated twice. Ino and Choji would have been goners. Naruto would have been killed. It's too convenient that every time Kakuzu had someone on the ropes, they were only saved by timely interference. To argue that the plot actually helped Kakuzu is entirely foolish.
Also, it was quite clear that Naruto was using the Kyubi's chakra when forming his FRS.
Mibu Clan
10-30-2008, 04:23 PM
Naruto was beat up and tired from his training, even Kakuzu comments on that.
Naruto can also use a Fuuton: Rasengan for less use of Chakra and more power than any Rasenagn shown, seeing as it has already combined Wind power.
Regardless Naruto is raped. The hearts will be separated, except for Doton Mask, Kakuzu will have his tentacles and will spam his Array of Ninjutsu all around Naruto and his fodder KB's.
Instead of counter attacking like he was against Naruto like before, due to Kakashi and Co. pressence, he would take the offensive and it would play down completely different scenario.
X KAGE
10-30-2008, 04:38 PM
my guess:
Naruto would win he will summon frog boss^_^
my guess:
Naruto would win he will summon frog boss^_^
Naruto doesn't summon Gamabunta any more because he's a dumbass.
Juracule Mihawk
10-30-2008, 04:53 PM
my guess:
Naruto would win he will summon frog boss^_^
I'm sorry, I totally forgot to restrict the great Gamabunta as well. I edited the OP.
This is just a battle between two shinobi.
My scenario on this battle is like this:
Because they don't have knowledge of each other, Naruto is doing his routine, which he was doing since the beginning of part 1. He spams with Tajuu Kage bunshin no jutsu, while creating the Rasengan and attacks Kakuzu straight.
Naruto's attack fails, and he is trying to use his triumph card FRS, Kakuzu has seen the Rasengan and doesn't hesitate and goes offensive while unleashing his masks, Naruto suprised of Kakuzu's speed, doesn't hesitate and tries to defend himself with his KB, because he didn't got the chance to finish FRS.
And so on and on, Kakuzu doesn't give Naruto any chance and would even use KB on his own to finish Naruto more quickly.
I say Kakuzu takes this with moderate ease.
the box
10-30-2008, 05:01 PM
naruto wins in base form he can distract kakuzu like last time and with sage chakra FRS time baby
even if it kills 2 hearts only kzkuzu will be killed by its after effects
Naruto won't have time to create a FRS without backup to keep Kakuzu from blitzing him. :zaru
Juracule Mihawk
10-30-2008, 05:07 PM
naruto wins in base form he can distract kakuzu like last time and with sage chakra FRS time baby
even if it kills 2 hearts only kzkuzu will be killed by its after effects
He doesn't have it this thread.
TreeofSephri
10-30-2008, 05:33 PM
Kakuzu will win this battle by releasing his elemental hearts. By doing this, the battle is more in his favor since he has teammates who will cover his blind spots even if they don't know they are. With the ghost present, Naruto may be a little reluctant to try and form a rasengan simply because one of the hearts might come and blast him out the air.
Also, Kakuzu is not stupid and once he sees Naruto create kagebunshins he will pretty much surmise Naruto's strategy. Also, we come to the fact that Naruto has only used the FRS successfully once. Who knows when it might back fire again and this fact may keep him from using it. Without the use of the FRS, Naruto cannot hope to win this battle.
-Maya-
10-30-2008, 06:19 PM
Bullshit. Scans or it didn't happen.
Why would Naruto just spontaneously show the Kyuubi's traits in base mode if he wasn't making use of any of its power?
He didn't show all the signs he only showed his eyes that looked slit like, none of the other signs were present
I get the feeling that -Maya- is reading an entirely different manga.
You'r Saying this to yet you go on to make the following comment lulz
Every ninja that tried to face Kakuzu was brought to within an inch of death. Izumo, Kotetsu, and Shikamaru would have died. Kakashi would have been obliterated twice. Ino and Choji would have been goners. Naruto would have been killed. It's too convenient that every time Kakuzu had someone on the ropes, they were only saved by timely interference. To argue that the plot actually helped Kakuzu is entirely foolish.
Naruto Formed the FRS and attacked Kakuzu with a KB feint which totally beat kakuzu leaving him open for the Finish
But thanks to a stroke of Luck That naruto had not yet had the time to learn all the qualities of the FRS he was Saved when the FRS fizzeled out giving Kakuzu the chance to survive
Don't compare Naruto to Chunnin
Also, it was quite clear that Naruto was using the Kyubi's chakra when forming his FRS.
Because He was already drained prior to the fight Kakuzu stated as Much didn't you read the manga ?
Regardless Naruto is raped. The hearts will be separated, except for Doton Mask, Kakuzu will have his tentacles and will spam his Array of Ninjutsu all around Naruto and his fodder KB's.
Kakuzu would start of in human form all the Masks togther
Instead of counter attacking like he was against Naruto like before, due to Kakashi and Co. pressence, he would take the offensive and it would play down completely different scenario.
He wasn't Counter attacking only because of Kakashi presence he started fighting like he did because her couldn't keep up with Naruto KB feint
Because they don't have knowledge of each other, Naruto is doing his routine, which he was doing since the beginning of part 1. He spams with Tajuu Kage bunshin no jutsu, while creating the Rasengan and attacks Kakuzu straight. Naruto's attack fails, and he is trying to use his triumph card FRS,
You again :notrust
Please tell me this routine that Naruto always does. Because little old me seems to renember that Naruto hasn't rushed anyone with TKB since the end of Part 1 since Kiminaro
The new Naruto Scouts his oponent with a few KB while he stands and watches and gathers
Please point out where Naruto attacks people straight (Totally not his style ) he uses KB manouvers to flank his oponents and beat them
Kakuzu faced two KB feints and both Raped him silly in the space of three chapters , Yet you claim he will magically succedd against this one based on what i don't Know
Kakuzu has seen the Rasengan and doesn't hesitate and goes offensive while unleashing his masks, Naruto suprised of Kakuzu's speed, doesn't hesitate and tries to defend himself with his KB, because he didn't got the chance to finish FRS.
My God why don't people get it if kakuzu had all his Masks available and ready to fight, do you know what the only difference in the fight would be?
Naruto would employ a KB feint manouver with 6 clones instead of 3, and seeing as Kakuzu as shown no defence against KB feints and if he doesn't get saved by a stroke of dumb luck with a failing jutsu he gets beaten
And lastly Kakuzu speed was great but all of his speed movments where when he was concentarte in one mass
And Naruto's speed +KB was quicker than Kakuzu maybe you missed the SFX when naruto was running signaling fast movement
And so on and on, Kakuzu doesn't give Naruto any chance and would even use KB on his own to finish Naruto more quickly.
What are you saying ? Naruto doesn't get the chance to use KB's or Kakuzu uses KB
First Kakuzu has shown no ability to use KB and secondly Kakuzu couldn't stop Naruto creating KB Naruto can form them in an instance but according to you Kakuzu would be able to do what no other High level shinobi in part 2 have been able to acheive
I say Kakuzu takes this with moderate ease.
As i said kakuzu has shown no defence against Naruto combat intelligence with KB
Naruto takes this with moderate ease maybe a One shot
Naruto won't have time to create a FRS without backup to keep Kakuzu from blitzing him. :zaru
Please provide evidence that the FRS takes alot of time to form even if kakuzu tries to stop naruto from creating one Naruto will have clones block and distract Kakuzu
Kakuzu will win this battle by releasing his elemental hearts. By doing this, the battle is more in his favor since he has teammates who will cover his blind spots even if they don't know they are. With the ghost present, Naruto may be a little reluctant to try and form a rasengan simply because one of the hearts might come and blast him out the air.
Kakuzu realeses his Masks So Naruto instead of using 3 Kb's he creates more same end result
Also, Kakuzu is not stupid and once he sees Naruto create kagebunshins he will pretty much surmise Naruto's strategy.
Kakuzu has shown no defence on two occasions from the KB feints and Naruto's tactics yet you claim he would be able to counter and see through Naruto's strategy
Also, we come to the fact that Naruto has only used the FRS successfully once. Who knows when it might back fire again and this fact may keep him from using it. Without the use of the FRS, Naruto cannot hope to win this battle.
The FRS Failed Due to The time limit expiring Naruto Knows that the FRS posses that limit and will adapt to that fact
-Maya-
10-30-2008, 06:21 PM
Naruto won't have time to create a FRS without backup to keep Kakuzu from blitzing him. :zaru
Right Despite him doing it without interferance in the Fight
He didn't show all the signs he only showed his eyes that looked slit like, none of the other signs were present
He tapped into enough of the Kyuubi's chakra to change his eyes, but not enough to create a shroud or a tail. It's not an all or nothing ability. He can use it without losing himself to it.
Right Despite him doing it without interferance in the Fight
Yeah, true.
It's not like Naruto had any backup when they fought in the manga. Kakuzu wasn't cornered and incredibly weakened and Naruto wasn't flanked by two Chuunin and two of Konoha's most powerful Jounin.
-Maya-
10-30-2008, 06:54 PM
He tapped into enough of the Kyuubi's chakra to change his eyes, but not enough to create a shroud or a tail. It's not an all or nothing ability. He can use it without losing himself to it.
His Hair did not become Rough His Fangs did not Lengthing his whiskers did not grow Darker his Nails didn't grow
All these things happen before the Tail shroud long before
Yeah, true.
It's not like Naruto had any backup when they fought in the manga. Kakuzu wasn't cornered and incredibly weakened and Naruto wasn't flanked by two Chuunin and two of Konoha's most powerful Jounin.
How are the their presence in any way affect the Speed of Kakuzu and Naruto ?
nordic
10-30-2008, 06:56 PM
Kakuzu takes this with moderate difficulty.
Naruto isn`t getting past his spamming of high level elemental jutsu.
iluvzetsu
10-30-2008, 06:58 PM
kakuzu........
His Hair did not become Rough His Fangs did not Lengthing his whiskers did not grow Darker his Nails didn't grow
All these things happen before the Tail shroud long before
And?
As evidenced by the change in his eyes, Naruto used some of the Kyuubi's chakra to create the FRS. He is not allowed to use the Kyuubi's chakra here.
How are the their presence in any way affect the Speed of Kakuzu and Naruto ?
If they weren't there, then Kakuzu would have simply blitzed Naruto and ripped him to shreds at some time during the ~twenty pages he spent in Kakuzu's presence before he created the FRS.
Shit, why the hell would he use the FRS here anyway? Without Kakashi to let him know that Kakuzu is "immortal" there would be no reason to bust out a technique that practically kills every cell in his own arm. It would be out of character.
-Maya-
10-30-2008, 07:13 PM
And?
As evidenced by the change in his eyes, Naruto used some of the Kyuubi's chakra to create the FRS. He is not allowed to use the Kyuubi's chakra here.
Yes He used a small amount of Kyuubi Chakra
Because he was worn out because he had just come from Training where he had already used the FR twice atleast maybe more
If they weren't there, then Kakuzu would have simply blitzed Naruto and ripped him to shreds at some time during the ~twenty pages he spent in Kakuzu's presence before he created the FRS.
First Yes Kakuzu stated with Naruto's back up he would be able to escape easilly
But nowhere in the manga does it state that he could speedblitz Naruto, if i renember correctly he dashed towards Naruto but Naruto countered and unleased a counter attack
Naruto proved that he was atleast = to any speed Kakuzu was able
You need supporting evidence to make the claim that someone can Blitz another person
Shit, why the hell would he use the FRS here anyway? Without Kakashi to let him know that Kakuzu is "immortal" there would be no reason to bust out a technique that practically kills every cell in his own arm. It would be out of character.
Fine He attacks with his first KB feintusing a Odama rasengan instead of the FRS this time this Rasengan doesn't backfire and this time he lands the Strike
Because kakuzu is in Human form with all the Hearts close togther it Destroys it's iron skin and atleast one Heart
Repeat and Rinse with 4 more KB feints and don't say he can't showedf that he was capable of using Multiple KB feints succesfully on Kakuzu
End Naruto wins
Yes He used a small amount of Kyuubi Chakra
Because he was worn out because he had just come from Training where he had already used the FR twice atleast maybe more
He needed Kyuubi Chakra to create the FRS. As far as I'm concerned he will always need Kyuubi Chakra to create the FRS until proven otherwise.
First Yes Kakuzu stated with Naruto's back up he would be able to escape easilly
But nowhere in the manga does it state that he could speedblitz Naruto, if i renember correctly he dashed towards Naruto but Naruto countered and unleased a counter attack
Naruto proved that he was atleast = to any speed Kakuzu was able
You need supporting evidence to make the claim that someone can Blitz another person
Give me a speed feat of Naruto's that puts him on Kakuzu's level.
Kakuzu played defensively from the minute Naruto arrived. He never dashed at him.
Fine He attacks with his first KB feintusing a Odama rasengan instead of the FRS this time this Rasengan doesn't backfire and this time he lands the Strike
Because kakuzu is in Human form with all the Hearts close togther it Destroys it's iron skin and atleast one Heart
Repeat and Rinse with 4 more KB feints and don't say he can't showedf that he was capable of using Multiple KB feints succesfully on Kakuzu
End Naruto wins
Naruto's KB feints won't be half as effective here as they were in the manga because Kakuzu can actually go on the offensive comfortably.
The regular Rasengan and the Oodama Rasengan do explosive impact damage with no piercing power. They would shake Kakuzu up, yes, but take out a heart? I don't think so.
Even if Naruto takes one heart out, what then? He has no information on Kakuzu. He will assume that Kakuzu is dead and be taken by surprise just like Kakashi was after his Raikiri. Then Kakuzu sneaks up on him and rips his heart out. End.
-Maya-
10-30-2008, 08:12 PM
He needed Kyuubi Chakra to create the FRS. As far as I'm concerned he will always need Kyuubi Chakra to create the FRS until proven otherwise.
Just forget Yamato Statement then
Give me a speed feat of Naruto's that puts him on Kakuzu's level.
Kakuzu played defensively from the minute Naruto arrived. He never dashed at him.
No he went into his final form and when Naruto's attack began he attack what he thought was the reasl Naruto that wasn't on the defensive
Naruto's KB feints won't be half as effective here as they were in the manga because Kakuzu can actually go on the offensive comfortably.
Kb feints have been succesfully on every ninja they have been used against Kakuzu is no different
So far out of 2 KB feint Kakuzu has been beaten both times, Intill proven otherwise Kakuzu can not defend against KB attacks of Naruto's quality
The regular Rasengan and the Oodama Rasengan do explosive impact damage with no piercing power. They would shake Kakuzu up, yes, but take out a heart? I don't think so.
Water Tower have you forgotten?
Rasengan's Tear Shred grind not Pierce against an Oponent like Kakuzu a Rasengan is a better weapon than a Raikiri (Again the water tower) against Human form Kakuzu
Even if Naruto takes one heart out, what then? He has no information on Kakuzu. He will assume that Kakuzu is dead and be taken by surprise just like Kakashi was after his Raikiri. Then Kakuzu sneaks up on him and rips his heart out. End.
Please show an example where Naruto has turned his Back on an oponent?
Even if he does Naruto gets Kicked
HBKJames
10-30-2008, 08:29 PM
Kakuzu was just a victim of Kishi's plot in the manga
It won't play out the same here, especially w/o any back-up
Kakuzu takes this
Mibu Clan
10-31-2008, 01:25 AM
Naruto Formed the FRS and attacked Kakuzu with a KB feint which totally beat kakuzu leaving him open for the Finish
Kakuzu was heavily restricted by then, with no Doton: Domu deffense or Raiton Mask. He didn't even have them off his body, due to his new weaknesses.
Kakuzu would start of in human form all the Masks togther
He'd notice that NAruto has some major Ninjutsu and go for the kill.
He wasn't Counter attacking only because of Kakashi presence he started fighting like he did because her couldn't keep up with Naruto KB feint
No, Kakuzu put his masks in his body one Kakashi and Co. killed his Second Mask through Hidan's Ritual. He was already in counter attacking mode...
When Kakuzu attacks against an opponent alone with more or less al his masks, he owns Kakashi in less than 4 panels.
Let alone that Kakuzu never even blitzed Naruto in the fight...
My God why don't people get it if kakuzu had all his Masks available and ready to fight, do you know what the only difference in the fight would be?
Naruto would employ a KB feint manouver with 6 clones instead of 3, and seeing as Kakuzu as shown no defence against KB feints and if he doesn't get saved by a stroke of dumb luck with a failing jutsu he gets beaten
Each Individual Clone would be that much inferior, and raping them with tentacles+ Ninjutsu Bazookas would prove that much easier.
And lastly Kakuzu speed was great but all of his speed movments where when he was concentarte in one mass
And Naruto's speed +KB was quicker than Kakuzu maybe you missed the SFX when naruto was running signaling fast movement
NAruto's speed is underrated, this is true... however, Kakuzu has shown more speed. (by blitzing a Sharingan)
Oh, and each mask moves as fast as Hidan does... Hidan speed is not to be taken lightly either... we saw how he was against Kakashi.
Even if Naruto wins, which is still unlikely, he'd be injured close to death. (he has no deffensive Jutsu or protection)
I do agree however on how Kakuzu's Doton will be failed against Naruto's Ninjutsu... elemental relations apply when the Justu is of the same caliber (same power). Fuuton: Rasengan>>> Oodama>>> Rasengan=Chidori/Raikiri
Kakuzu wins this match everytime it isn't being written by Kishimoto. Put them IC, without anyone creating fanfic for them...and there's not a chance in high holy hell that Naruto wins this.
Jυstin
10-31-2008, 03:40 AM
Har har.
Naruto can't even use FRS without the Kyuubi. Kakuzu stomps the shit out of him without releasing a single mask.Naruto doesn't have the chakra to use FRS without the Kyuubi.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/339/15/
Naruto hates depending on the Kyuubi. He wouldn't be using it if he didn't need it.
I was at first going to give it to Naruto, but I do remember the above to be the case.
Beating the shit out of him. He's faster, he's stronger, and he has tentacles.
Lol tentacles :LOS
People Act like kakuzu was at a disadvantage because he lost 2 hearts prior. The guy still had 3 hearts. That's like killing Kakashi 3 times.
Lets look at Naruto's handicaps
Naruto had just finished training meaning he was less then 100% = 100% proved.
Naruto was practicing a 50% completed jutsu = 100% proved
PnJ saved kakuza from the 1st FRS to showcase naruto's determination/WoF. = 100% proved.
People keep forgetting that while FRS didn't kill Kakuzu, it did render him completely useless. He became a living vegetable after that FRS.
OP should have stated if Naruto had a complete FRS in this match. If he does then it's no contest, Naruto rapestomps.
Juracule Mihawk
10-31-2008, 06:43 AM
People Act like kakuzu was at a disadvantage because he lost 2 hearts prior. The guy still had 3 hearts. That's like killing Kakashi 3 times.
Lets look at Naruto's handicaps
Naruto had just finished training meaning he was less then 100% = 100% proved.
Naruto was practicing a 50% completed jutsu = 100% proved
PnJ saved kakuza from the 1st FRS to showcase naruto's determination/WoF. = 100% proved.
People keep forgetting that while FRS didn't kill Kakuzu, it did render him completely useless. He became a living vegetable after that FRS.
OP should have stated if Naruto had a complete FRS in this match. If he does then it's no contest, Naruto rapestomps.
I'm sorry to ad that, Naruto has 50% FRS, just like in the manga. :kthumb
I'm sorry to ad that, Naruto has 50% FRS, just like in the manga. :kthumb
Ok.
Naruto and Kakuzu both start off at 100% and know nothing about each other. Kakuzu would underestimate Naruto like in the manga. I mean c'mon this guy was acting cocky in front a whole squad because he was 90+ years old. No doubt he'd underestimate a 16 yr old kid who has no back up.
Events would pretty much go the same way the manga did except Kakuza would probably still have on his cloak and PnJ wouldn't make FRS magically fail at the last second. Kakuzu would have 3 hearts left but, he would be vegetable light.
Underestimation would be Kakuzu's down fall. Again.
TheYellowFlash10
10-31-2008, 06:56 PM
Kakuzo shoul win, since no one is here to help him and Kakuzo have the five hearts and more since he don't know Kakuzo "true form"
Axl Low
10-31-2008, 07:01 PM
Doton armor and punches.
No masks needed.
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