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MachineCore
10-09-2008, 09:29 PM
So while i was nosing around like a nosing thing i noticed that Sakura is the subject of much hate and derision.

WHY!??!??! Shes a good character. So she had a bad crush at the start of the series and was basicaly useless in part one...come to think of it most of the female Rookie 9 was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

But like i said the only real reason i can find for people disliking her is because she had a schoolgirly crush on mr McBroodypants. Can we really hold that against her i mean virutaly everybody i know regrets their first crush. I know i do even though it was on a fictional character who i ain't gonna name...

(LYTA ALEXANDER: Edit Goblin) :huh wuh? Why do i regret her? Shes pretty foxy!
http://www.freewebs.com/sidhe/lyta1.jpg



So yeh why is there so much Sakura hate around these days?

Anybody who thinks they can contest the reasons people dislike Sakura i would like to hear from you too.

MachineCore
10-09-2008, 09:56 PM
All valid reasons as far as i'm concerned Fullmetal. Personaly i like her but...whats wrong with a thuggish fighting style? smile-big Maybe its a Male thing but i allways enjoyed seeing sombody thumping people to bits. Then again i'm a fan of this idiot.....



Warning contains french Bishi from about 4 minutes in!
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Edit: My girlfriend is a genius - she fixed the linky problem

Chillouh
10-09-2008, 10:02 PM
Because she has pink hair, small tits and abuses Naruto.

namikaze uzumaki
10-09-2008, 10:19 PM
Because she has pink hair, small tits and abuses Naruto.

yeah she really does hit/beat him up 4 no reason sometimes

MasterSitsu
10-09-2008, 10:50 PM
I guess insecure fans still exist.

All characters are hated apon well except maybe gai or Deidara.

Sarutobi Asuma
10-09-2008, 10:53 PM
I like Sakura in Part II. Her character in part I annoyed me
majority of the time because of her unhelpful-ness.

Misfit7x10
10-09-2008, 11:00 PM
I don't like her personality, her thuggish fighting style thats mostly just chakra enforced punches without much speed, her early sasuke fangirlism, her hair cut, her looks, her attitude, her treatment of Naruto and her treatment of Ino. There is more. Need I do on?


Agreed. She's a bitch, she was the one who ended her friendship with Ino over Sasuke. She totally ditched Naruto 'cause he didn't have enough money for both of them to go eat ramen.

Yakushi Kabuto
10-09-2008, 11:02 PM
I started liking her more when she did the hair cut, it represented her willingness to change. But I do think it makes sense that a person who smacks around someone who they definitely care about is at least a little off-putting. If she were male and hitting a girl we'd at least qualify that as abuse. :P

Inuhanyou
10-09-2008, 11:05 PM
1. Because usually part 1 sakura and part 2 sakura aren't differentiated by the tards

2. Because they think she's so different between parts that she became a mary sue

3. She gets in the way of a specific pairing

4. They don't like her "manly style"

5. She's a tsundere

April
10-09-2008, 11:09 PM
People hate her for her crush on Sasuke?

lol...:facepalm

Sephiroth
10-09-2008, 11:11 PM
I like Part II Sakura because she has Pink hair and doesn't have giant breast, and defeated an Akatsuki. Part I Her beating up on Naruto is pretty funny sometimes to, I like that she actually hits him rather then just screams like other anime character girls, like Kagome(ewww).

In part I I liked her Inner Sakura, I wish that actually came out in a fight.

Draklin
10-09-2008, 11:35 PM
im with reason 3 from in Inuhanyou gets in the way of a certain pairing, ive been know quite a bitchy female and sakura is nowhere near as bad as a bitchy female is, all the other reasons except for the ones by Inuhanyou seem like pathetic reasons not to like someone, i like sakura while her crush was annoying, everyone has a first crush, if you hate her for that its pretty pathetic, people act stupid around people they like, ive seen it many time, hell a friend of mine changes his total personality around certain people. its no reason to hate someone for.

SammyKat
10-10-2008, 01:37 AM
I like Sakura in Part II. Her character in part I annoyed me
majority of the time because of her unhelpful-ness.

I was kinda like that - I found sakura deeply annoying for a great deal of part 1 - although I could also appreciate that what we were seeing was a pretty acurate portrayel of you average 12 year old girl. Although the part whre she cut her hair was cause for a definite upswing in my opinion of her. In part two she's actually my favourite female character in the series.

I agree, you'll get fans that dislike a character for seemingly daft reasons (i.e. she threatens a favoured pairing) but I guess she's just one of those characters that will just rub some people the wrong way or she just won't appeal to some readers/viewers.

Kyasurin Yakuto
10-10-2008, 01:51 AM
I don't either hate her or like her but I think that a lot of people don't like her because they want to see her do more. Kishi hasn't given her many fights compared to the main male characters. Also, people probably don't like that she can still be rather mean to Naruto and seems shallow. She probably still likes Sasuke even though he only ever treated her like crap. That just gives some more messages about women. :(

She is better than she was in part 1 though.

悪人
10-10-2008, 02:12 AM
Here are my reasons:

The Weed Mistaken for a Flower (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=398576)

Balalaika
10-10-2008, 02:14 AM
Why is she disliked by some? It has to do with Sakura doing things to earn her haters. Her personality, her inability to make her growth seem constant and consistent no matter how it's touted. Her high praise by some of the most prominent shinobi in the series with little to show for it. For all of the maturity she's said to posses; she still can't control herself in a battlefield and her actions have consequences that affect the rest of the squad. Perhaps it's because she uses her station in the military to try to make friends with a traitor for nostalgia. Her poor choices in dealing with both Naruto and Sai, while they may have bad manners her's are horrid as well. The fact that her story is bland for being the main female is a big one as well. No personal goal that doesn't pertain to her team, hardly any panels that don't connect with them somehow, even her rivalry with Ino was tainted. The fact that she'll probably surpass Tsunade and a genjutsu power-up will most likely be the device when there's no reasonable explanation why Tsunade doesn't have the same potential in illusions as Sakura besides Kakashi's statement.

There are some reasons, none that had to do with pairing, and all of them are post-skip applicable. :zaru

Cinna
10-10-2008, 03:09 AM
i like sakuras character simply b/c she's not a character that is easy to love. she's full of flaws and like many people said, she was practically useless in part one. but perfect people end up being boring. at least she had the chance to develop compared to others.

she's grown up since then and developed. starting with cutting her hair (and exposing her large forehead), learning medical ninjutsu and training with tsunade.

i mean, she managed to defeat an akatsuki!

she treats naruto like a fool, even though she knows about his feelings for her. that makes people angry, b/c it could be so much easier if she simply admitted it. but she is also very stubborn (and people hate stubborn girls!) she cannot admit (after all the time that has passed since she first met/beat up naruto) that she actually might like him, too. i think it's a knd of love story that is so common.

b/c of this and much more i like sakura. she's not one of the dull, female manga character with large boobs and a nice ass.

Saphri
10-10-2008, 03:16 AM
I certainly don't "hate" Sakura. she just does'nt interest me. I find her boring and hollow. Most of the main characters in the story have like a "reason" for wanting to become shinobi such as.

Naruto- To become Hokage and finally have the respect he craves
Sasuke- Revenge... etc

Sakura doesn't seem to have that she is just... well... there!

Effy
10-10-2008, 03:56 AM
i didnt hate part 1 Sakura for having a stupid crush or beign useless. wat i dislike is that she's a hypocrite. oh and i dislike part 2 Sakura even more :noworry

Kelsey♥
10-10-2008, 05:10 AM
I dont like Sakura because in Part I She was bloody damn useless and like when they fought Gaara and she tried to help she got her ass pinned to a tree through the whole fight :zaru Plus her Sasuke Fangirlism got on my nerves badly. Plus she abuses my Naruto for the smallest in stupiest reasons.

Part II she has got a little more useful but I still dont like her. Her Abuse is getting heavier on the poor Blonde.

Alice
10-10-2008, 05:36 AM
Mary-sueish hypocrite in part 1 and absolutely shallow character in part 2 :notrust

MachineCore
10-10-2008, 06:37 AM
she's not one of the dull, female manga character with large boobs and a nice ass.

Oh i dunno i always thought she had quite a good booty in part two. I agree about the breasts though then again Huge boobage scares the living patookie outta me. (MUST STOP MAKING WORDS UP!)

zuul
10-10-2008, 07:23 AM
In part one she was funny and has potential, and most of the time Sasuke was her to verbally and emotionnally bitchsalpped her when needed.

In part 2 she's a Mary-Sue with no other plot relevance than being Naruto's fake love interest (since if you can read between the line, he's in fact totally gay for Sasuke Sama).
And all that hype about Sakura being such a strong, beautiful, caring, smart, wonderful girl, gets on my nerves. Most of the time it's baseless and it ruined the 'Sakura-is-a-normal-girl-easy-to-relate-to thing', which used to make her somewhat likeable in part one.

And I'm under the impression Kishi thinks his readers are stupid and can be fooled with some dumb praises. Very displeasant. :notrust

Seto Kaiba
10-10-2008, 07:32 AM
Mary-sueish hypocrite in part 1 and absolutely shallow character in part 2 :notrust

How the hell is she a mary sue? She hasn't done anything remarkable. She's even described as not being exceptional in the looks, just "pretty".

Aldric
10-10-2008, 07:37 AM
She's a petty bitch mainly

Not exceptionally evil, not particularly good in anything either

Just all around mediocrity and pettiness, in her personality, looks and objectives

Apparently some people find it interesting because it supposedly makes her "human", good for them I guess, but it's a pretty sad way to view humanity

Alice
10-10-2008, 07:53 AM
How the hell is she a mary sue? She hasn't done anything remarkable. She's even described as not being exceptional in the looks, just "pretty".

Mary Sue in eyes of her fandom, which tries to give her more importance than she actually has, especially in pairing field :noworry

And she isn't even pretty.

Rokudaime
10-10-2008, 08:02 AM
First of all, She is fcking ugly...Compare to other anime character, she is nothing..Even those Hentai Doujin artist trying their hardest to "beautiful'ed her in their artwork and it still inferior to other doujinshi...If a character cant even do well in Hentai, what is her purpose?

Secondly, She love to pretend to be smart or intelligence or almighty but the fact is, she isnt smart or intelligence or almighty....

and for her goal, Ok...So she only willing start to become a decent ninja after she got dumped by her crush?...and the main purpose for her to become a decent ninja? Well, defend or sacrifice for Konoha definitely isnt her top priority...She just want to win back her crush's heart.

If Madara ask her to poison Tsunade , and the reward is being Sasuke for 1 hours, I can see that she will do it straight without any remorse or guilty.

That Sakura-chan for you.

MachineCore
10-10-2008, 08:21 AM
First of all, She is fcking ugly...Compare to other anime character, she is nothing..Even those Hentai Doujin artist trying their hardest to "beautiful'ed her in their artwork and it still inferior to other doujinshi...If a character cant even do well in Hentai, what is her purpose?

Secondly, She love to pretend to be smart or intelligence or almighty but the fact is, she isnt smart or intelligence or almighty....

and for her goal, Ok...So she only willing start to become a decent ninja after she got dumped by her crush?...and the main purpose for her to become a decent ninja? Well, defend or sacrifice for Konoha definitely isnt her top priority...She just want to win back her crush's heart.

If Madara ask her to poison Tsunade , and the reward is being Sasuke for 1 hours, I can see that she will do it straight without any remorse or guilty.

That Sakura-chan for you.


Um....what? You only rate a character if they're attractive in your eyes? As for her motivation. What exactly is the motivation of Shikamaru? or Ino? or Kiba?

Tumbleweedjc
10-10-2008, 08:35 AM
...I personally don't like her because she belittles and hits Naruto for petty and insignificant reasons...

Fay
10-10-2008, 08:45 AM
I used to like her in part 1, she was even my favorite character for a while.

Apparently the mangaka had different ideas with her character than the potential and ideas I saw for her character.

It's his manga not mine. Now I'm just indifferent to her, nothing more..nothing less.

Louchan
10-10-2008, 08:56 AM
Because a lot of people are still mentally stuck on chapter 3.
:zaru

Jetstorm
10-10-2008, 09:02 AM
Her Part 1 persona, she gets so much screen time yet doesn't do much with it, and of course the shippers that hate her because she messes with their pairing and her hitting of Naruto.

+Kohana_Ame+
10-10-2008, 09:17 AM
Her stupid fangirlism and drooling over Sasukay, her mean and terrible behaviour to Naruto, the way she let down Ino, who was her one and only friend, her annoying fighting style, her harshness, her over-the-top personality, her lack of beauty in any way to make up for her character-issues and her annoying voice. Those are the reasons I dislike why her so much.

Sister Eda
10-10-2008, 09:29 AM
because she is sadistic abusive freak who really hurts Naruto and always saying "Sasuke kun! Sasuke kun!". full of shit in part 1..


but I really really like her, infact! she is my number 2 favorite konoichi. because of being her plastic. you know what I mean, like mean girls/gossip girls. and I like her for that. anytime her inner sakura release, that is the most happiest part in my Naruto's world.

and she has a lot of improvement in Shippuuden and she became more sexy and come to think of it people how strong she is. she even kill one of akatsuki! SASORI! it's not that easy to kill one of akatsuki right. she is the only konoichi who had kill one akatsuki. that is the sign that she really improves. and she never boast it! she just simple.. humble

and what I really like about her is being a conservative. that's all

Connie
10-10-2008, 09:32 AM
Because some people just like to stick to seeing her as the Pre-TS Sakura. Can't take the fact that she's actually improved and just replace it as "omg so mary sue-ish".

Nadini
10-10-2008, 10:39 AM
Because people live in the first arc, and refuse to accept that she's actually matured..
and mostly she gets in the way of some pairing which i will not name so i don't start another war..

oh and a certain female kunoichi fans are quite jealous because she's the main female lead character :sag

Seto Kaiba
10-10-2008, 10:46 AM
Mary Sue in eyes of her fandom, which tries to give her more importance than she actually has, especially in pairing field :noworry

I've never seen her fandom overrate her importance, I think you're getting all that confused with another one. She's the female lead...I mean, come on. How can she be given more importance in the pairing field? She is the most important female rookie in that regards seeing as she's the only one among them who regularly makes appearances.

And she isn't even pretty.

Subjective.

Sister Eda
10-10-2008, 11:08 AM
will in Shippuuden too. Sakura fully loved Naruto deeply.. about pairings. I think even Sasuke will come back to her in part 2 or shippuuden. she will chose Naruto than Sasuke because she realize how important Naruto is to her especially when Naruto became Kyuubi. the battle between him and Oro. if you've seen that episode. you will see how Sakura regrets! and how totally she got worried about Naruto

Guts
10-10-2008, 11:13 AM
cause shes a cunt to the main character?

Cinna
10-10-2008, 12:40 PM
Oh i dunno i always thought she had quite a good booty in part two. I agree about the breasts though then again Huge boobage scares the living patookie outta me. (MUST STOP MAKING WORDS UP!)
yea, i know what you mean. and kishi didn't really giver her smexin clothes so that she could at least show off the little that she has, i mean, look at ino!

Her stupid fangirlism and drooling over Sasukay, her mean and terrible behaviour to Naruto, the way she let down Ino, who was her one and only friend, her annoying fighting style, her harshness, her over-the-top personality, her lack of beauty in any way to make up for her character-issues and her annoying voice. Those are the reasons I dislike why her so much.

i think kishi did all that on purpose. she's supposed to controversial and polarize.:nod

oh and a certain female kunoichi fans are quite jealous because she's the main female lead character :sag

oh yes, and she definately has more screentime that ino.:LOS

Lupin
10-10-2008, 12:43 PM
Its cause she does JACK SHIT nothing useful all she can do is heal never fights just cries but when she tries to fight she gets knocked out FAST quicker than khonamru

Euraj
10-10-2008, 01:14 PM
Its cause she does JACK SHIT nothing useful all she can do is heal never fights just cries but when she tries to fight she gets knocked out FAST quicker than khonamruLol, when was the last time you read the Manga or watched the Anime? Does the name Sasori sound familiar?

People expect too much of a girl in a series whose maker has already decided girls are meant to be weaker than men. Regardless, even if she soloed a Tailed Beast, I bet you guys would still be complaining. : /

N A R U T O
10-10-2008, 01:44 PM
Sakura was useless in part 1.
I don't like her at all...
She can't understand :sasuke Sasuke doesn't want her.
She is a bit nerd ...

Balalaika
10-10-2008, 01:52 PM
Lol, when was the last time you read the Manga or watched the Anime? Does the name Sasori sound familiar?

People expect too much of a girl in a series whose maker has already decided girls are meant to be weaker than men. Regardless, even if she soloed a Tailed Beast, I bet you guys would still be complaining. : /

Oh yeah, Sasori! The guy who Chiyo killed. What about him? He was dominating both women in that fight until his parent puppets came at him as Chiyo's last ditch effort and his remaining spark of humanity prevented him from reacting. Sakura was laying on the ground mortally wounded therefore Chiyo had to use her reincarnation jutsu. Chiyo was poisoned. How she could still mold chakra, or move, who knows.

After finally contributing something how does she celebrate? By doing nothing. No longer a lack of physical power or good teacher, she's just happy to sit back there and look worried/shocked/mad/etc.

Starr
10-10-2008, 03:27 PM
yea, i know what you mean. and kishi didn't really giver her smexin clothes so that she could at least show off the little that she has, i mean, look at ino!



oh yes, and she definately has more screentime that ino.:LOS


lol, Ino's got breasts, don't hate on her

Cinna
10-10-2008, 03:52 PM
lol, Ino's got breasts, don't hate on her
ok, i wont hate, but when i first saw her new outfit, i really thought: oh no. what has kishi done? she looks like her workplace is at the corner of a street...

but oh, well. :oh

azn_fan_gurl
10-10-2008, 04:38 PM
Um....what? You only rate a character if they're attractive in your eyes? As for her motivation. What exactly is the motivation of Shikamaru? or Ino? or Kiba?

None of those people are leading characters. It's just sad that Sakura, who gets the third most panel time, is sitting around and centering her life around other people. So much for being that strong, independent girl that she's made out to be.

There are tons of reasons why I dislike Sakura.

I don't particularly enjoy her design. Almost every other female in this manga seems more attractive to me. From the soft-edged Hinata, to the bold Ino, or the abrasive Anko.

I despise the fact that she doesn't even have her own move set, yet she gets praised so much. She has one offensive move, and people vastly overrate her with it. She's nowhere near Tsunade's level, yet it's apparently 'imminent' that she'll surpass her. And I know that I've explained why I think that's bull.

Naruto and Sasuke will always overshadow her in terms of strength and usefulness. The only thing she really has to offer is some shaky romance- with boys who seem either homosexual or asexual anyways.

There's nothing unique about her. You could replace her with any average kunoichi, and the story wouldn't suffer much at all. I think that's just sad.

SasukeUchiha05
10-10-2008, 04:42 PM
Her hairstyle is ugly she's anoying and for her crush on Sasuke ofcourse .

Kaito Sageko
10-10-2008, 05:14 PM
Her hairstyle is ugly she's anoying and for her crush on Sasuke ofcourse .
Because of the pink hair?
It is weird that she is soo hated...

UnFairy
10-10-2008, 05:19 PM
because she used to be SERIOUSLY useless. i like the way she talks to sai, tho.


and here comes the childish reason: because she took part in sasori's puppet-cide (._.), so she must DIE ò_ò

Mogami Kyoko
10-10-2008, 05:52 PM
I saw this thread and I couldn't resist jumping in since I'm a fan of Sakura and I feel like I need to defend. Lol :laugh
I'm not here to pick a fight or debate. I'm just here to throw out the reasons why people hate her and then throw out my response to those reasons. :amuse


A lot of people hate Sakura because:

1. They believe she was useless in part one. (Well, yeah, I too think she could have done more, but I still never hated her for it. That's kind of silly.)

2. They say she has small boobs. (Er. Why does that matter? :huh Plus the anime has shown her to have a larger chest. But whether she has a big or small chest REALLY doesn't matter and shouldn't be the reason why you hate someone. But actually I believe that people who are already Sakura haters throw this in. Just because they don't like her. Lol ^^; )

3. She was a fangirl over Sasuke. (Yes, that annoyed me too. But she doesn't fangirl over him anymore. Let it go...)

4. She has pink hair. (I think it's cute. Sorry if you don't like the color pink, but that's kind of a bad excuse to hate someone. =/)

5. She abuses Naruto. (Um, not really. Yes she does punch him but she doesn't do it as much as you think she does. First off, when she hits him, I believe she's holding back (That girl has Tsunade strength now!) and also Naruto doesn't seem to care that she hits him. And usually when she does, he deserves to be hit. Sakura does a good job keeping Naruto settled down when he doesn't know when to stop something. Plus when she hits him, it's usually comedic.)

6. She's useless even in part 2. (No...she's anything but useless. People say that Chiyo defeated Sasori and Sakura did nothing, but I believe Chiyo and Sakura had some teamwork going. One couldn't do it without the other. Sakura deserves some credit too. Plus Sakura is a medical ninja. And I've heard many times that medical ninja's aren't MEANT to be in battle. But Sakura has that chakra enhanced strength to protect herself when she needs to.
She's a great medical ninja. And if people think she's useless for that, then why isn't there as much Ino haters? Ino was like Sakura. She fangirls over every cute boy, she doesn't fight and she's a medical ninja. Seriously...-_-)

7. I've heard some people say that they don't like her because of the issue she had with Ino. (Might I point out that the situation between those two are over. They're great friends again. Sure they may still be rival-ish once in a while, but they're friends now. I believe they re-newed their friendship after their fight in the chunnin exam. And also before they became friends again, Ino was a part of the problem too. It takes two to fight.)

8. She's annoying. (Really? She's never been annoying to me. Well, maybe a little in part one, but she's not anymore...I guess that's based on opinion though. ^^; )

9. She's Ugly. (No she's not. O_O But then again that's another thing based on opinion.)

10. She cries too much. (She doesn't cry THAT much. C'mon...Naruto has cried quite a few times too ya know.)

11. And finally, I've heard some people hate her because they want NaruHina to happen. (:facepalm ...DON'T even get me started on that. No, just...no...)

So yeah.
Other people just don't like her because she has/had a crush on Sasuke because they're Sasuke fangirls.

But overall, I don't see why people should hate Sakura. Me personally, she's my fav. female character. And she's matured a lot and has gotten stronger. Plus she's the most realistic character in the series.
I don't see much reason to hate her. =/
But if you hate her, I guess that's your opinion. ^^; Lol

And sorry, I had to say what I believed after the reasons why people hated Sakura. I guess I wanted to clear some things up. :LOS I'm done ranting. Lol

Yami Munesanzun
10-10-2008, 05:56 PM
:lmao because many see her as an asset and not a liability, in other words, she's more prone to getting in trouble on her own...and she can't get herself out of trouble, or get others out of trouble without someone ELSE'S help :argh

Dokiz1
10-10-2008, 05:56 PM
Sakura is the definition of awesomeness:beardthing

Ishi
10-10-2008, 06:22 PM
Because people just her on stupid stuff, like her physical appearance and how well she can fight. :/

MachineCore
10-10-2008, 06:22 PM
Finaly glad to see the Sakura supporters coming outta the woodwork. I gotta say i like her i admit i like her mainly as a love interest simply because she and Naruto are the only two that are building a relationship that could turn into a successful romance.

I gotta agree with Serena-Hime some of the reasons for hating her are just downright stupid. Especialy the boobs one. Lemme tell ya somthing guys dont like huge bazooms as much as you would think.

As for hating her because you like NaruHina all i can say is.....what? Seriously have those two spent ANY time together outside the filler arc? Personaly i think Hinata needs help her reaction to Naruto is just plain WEIRD! If a girl was doing that at me i would probably have her arrested as a danger to the public safety or being one step away from being a clocktower sniper!

As for hating her fighting style. Well i dunno i dont think we've seen her fighting style taken to the full zenith yet. Have a look at the video i posted in a my second post on this thread. THATS what i can honestly see Sakura pulling off at some point in the future.

MasterSitsu
10-10-2008, 06:37 PM
"As for hating her because you like NaruHina all i can say is.....what? Seriously have those two spent ANY time together outside the filler arc? Personaly i think Hinata needs help her reaction to Naruto is just plain WEIRD! If a girl was doing that at me i would probably have her arrested as a danger to the public safety or being one step away from being a clocktower sniper!"

Hating a character because of a paring is stupid.

Also blushing at someone you like isnt weird nor does that mean there going to end up a cerial killer. You should have known better then this.

MachineCore
10-10-2008, 06:50 PM
Actualy i wasn't talking about the blushing i was talking about the hyperventilating the general freaking out. NOT NORMAL I TELLS YEE!

P.S Lighten up.

Yαriko
10-10-2008, 06:54 PM
some people cant pass chapter 3:awesome

I like to read all those bashing comments.they remind me why i love her:love

MasterSitsu
10-10-2008, 06:55 PM
Actualy i wasn't talking about the blushing i was talking about the hyperventilating the general freaking out. NOT NORMAL I TELLS YEE!

P.S Lighten up.
So having symtoms of a crush is adnormal to you? My gosh you have high standards of what is normal then.

She only hyperventilated as you put it ONCE in part two when she first met up with Naruto after two years. Please try again.

Yαriko
10-10-2008, 06:56 PM
Because she has pink hair, small tits and abuses Naruto.

crushing argument:facepalm

Regulator
10-10-2008, 06:59 PM
The stereotype fangirl bitch. Kishi just took that 100x too far. She's better in Shippuuden, though.

Levithian
10-10-2008, 07:02 PM
As for hating her because you like NaruHina all i can say is.....what? Seriously have those two spent ANY time together outside the filler arc? Personaly i think Hinata needs help her reaction to Naruto is just plain WEIRD! If a girl was doing that at me i would probably have her arrested as a danger to the public safety or being one step away from being a clocktower sniper!


And I would have Sakura arrested if I were Naruto for assault and battery.
:zaru

Farih
10-10-2008, 07:06 PM
^ too bad Naruto doesn't seem to mind the bashing at all :amuse

A lot of people won't accept her character development. True she was a shallow girl before, but Kishi spent a large amount of paneltime showing her change. Why some folks won't just live with that is beyond me.

SwirlyUchihaFan
10-10-2008, 07:11 PM
Her constant whining in part 1, her crying-over-things-instead-of-doing-something-about-it. Her irritating bubblegum pink hair, her stupidity, her uselessness. The way she completely slagged off her best friend- the first person to ever befriend her, care about her and protect her, over some guy who strongly dislikes her (in part one).
She gave Ino her ribbon back, over a guy- She's a bitch!

She constantly abuses Naruto for no reason. She was obsessed with Sasuke- a big no-no when he should be with Naruto... :P
Her crappy fighting abilities. She's smart (apparently) but she never puts any of it to use, so she comes across as mentally stunted.

The fact that she so rudely and harshly rejected Lee instead of letting him down gently. - Just spells B-I-T-C-H..

There's more, but I think I've made my point. She's a useless character. I don't think the series would have been any different if she'd died in episode 5 or something. -_-

~riku~
10-10-2008, 07:23 PM
This thread's going to be recycled I think...some topic like this was made before.


You want to know why Sakura is hated? Because she is an ugly, rude, masculine, insensitive, stupid, dependant...*can carry on for hours, no, years.*

If you want more reasons, with proper explanations with proof, you only need to visit the Anti-Sakura FC.

SwirlyUchihaFan
10-10-2008, 07:29 PM
Oh yeah,
I really hate people that keep pestering the objects of their affection, after being rejected more than once. They don't seem to understand that you can't help who you fall in love with.

Just because she moans and whines over/to Sasuke, does not mean he'll return her love! He's not interested. He never has been, and he never will be! (Sorry, SasuSaku fans, but it's oh-so-true!)

I just think that as far as characters and their developments go, she's pretty damn annoying/useless.

Temari, Tsunade, Shizune and Shiho are the only females in Naruto that are actually useful and decent people.
Hinata is showing a more useful side, hopefully she'll develop a lot more in part two- we've yet to see her 'new skills' that she must have gained while Naruto was absent from her life.

ILikeToast
10-10-2008, 08:07 PM
i think mainly cus she needs anger-management. its past the stage of funny now. in fact, it was past the stage of funny well before part 1 ended. now when i see the whole white angry eyes, and see her grinding her teeth, i think, 'calm down you angry cow'. if she only hit naruto occasionally, it wud be a lot more funny than if he does the SMALLEST POSSIBLE thing.

there are other smaller reasons why (one i think is actually bcus i like NH, and thats all lol). but mostly the anger thing.

u cant really say all of the female ninja were useless in part 1. tenten and hinata werent useless. i know that ppl think they r now, but thats just cus we havent seen a decent fight involving them. they cud kick ass for all we know! that massive scroll tenten uses to summon like a million kunai may not her huge attack. she may have more powerful ones.

do u know what i thought about a while back though? i dont think i wud dislike her as much as i do if she was the same as she is now, but like 8 years old and less powerful :amuse. cus it be like, 'aww shes adorable', rather than being a genuine threat to those around her whenever something rattles her cage. Its like giving an 8 year-old a gun. sure she can be sweet and innocent - but if u make her even slightly angry, it is in her power to kill you! :laugh

Chidori Mistress
10-10-2008, 08:12 PM
some people cant pass chapter 3:awesome

I like to read all those bashing comments.they remind me why i love her:love

Pretty much this :zaru

Balalaika
10-10-2008, 08:22 PM
I saw this thread and I couldn't resist jumping in since I'm a fan of Sakura and I feel like I need to defend. Lol :laugh
I'm not here to pick a fight or debate. I'm just here to throw out the reasons why people hate her and then throw out my response to those reasons. :amuse


A lot of people hate Sakura because:

1. They believe she was useless in part one. (Well, yeah, I too think she could have done more, but I still never hated her for it. That's kind of silly.)

Why? She was and is a member of the active military the same as everyone else yet she did very little to improve herself during that time while the others were working. After Konoha was invaded she could have gone on simple D rank missions to bring in money or trained, but almost every panel shown of her was in the hospital.

2. They say she has small boobs. (Er. Why does that matter? :huh Plus the anime has shown her to have a larger chest. But whether she has a big or small chest REALLY doesn't matter and shouldn't be the reason why you hate someone. But actually I believe that people who are already Sakura haters throw this in. Just because they don't like her. Lol ^^; )


You answered your own question, it's mostly a joke. Some may not care for her appearance, but it's not the basis for disliking her as a whole.

3. She was a fangirl over Sasuke. (Yes, that annoyed me too. But she doesn't fangirl over him anymore. Let it go...)

Hard to be a fangirl when the object of your desire is no longer in town. During the meeting with Sasuke it took her so long to get her bearings she let a perfectly good chance to attack him slip by. Naruto and Sai had him busy, where was she? No? Head on charge while bellowing is a better idea?

4. She has pink hair. (I think it's cute. Sorry if you don't like the color pink, but that's kind of a bad excuse to hate someone. =/)

You're looking selectively if you think this is the reason that people really pick to hate her.

5. She abuses Naruto. (Um, not really. Yes she does punch him but she doesn't do it as much as you think she does. First off, when she hits him, I believe she's holding back (That girl has Tsunade strength now!) and also Naruto doesn't seem to care that she hits him.

He doesn't seem to care that Sasuke stabbed him through the lung either, doesn't mean it's acceptable behavior.

And usually when she does, he deserves to be hit.

So I guess when Sakura needs a good smack we know that Sai and Naruto are there to give it to her. Just cause she deserves it.

Sakura does a good job keeping Naruto settled down when he doesn't know when to stop something. Plus when she hits him, it's usually comedic.)

And jokes are always funny when you've heard them fifty times.

6. She's useless even in part 2. (No...she's anything but useless. People say that Chiyo defeated Sasori and Sakura did nothing, but I believe Chiyo and Sakura had some teamwork going. One couldn't do it without the other. Sakura deserves some credit too. Plus Sakura is a medical ninja. And I've heard many times that medical ninja's aren't MEANT to be in battle. But Sakura has that chakra enhanced strength to protect herself when she needs to.

Had Chiyo been willing to bust out her ten puppets while Sasori was still stuck in Hiruko, she could have kept him busy with some of the others and used three buddhist treasures vacuum destruction. But the laws of manga wouldn't allow it. :LOS
What about after Sasori? In that many chapters, the third most face time in the manga all anyone can cite is that. That is why she's useless, after Sasori, she had to be rescued by Yamato because she couldn't handle herself.
As for medical ninja that do know how to handle themselves, they are essential, if there are none, you have unnecessary deaths. Just as you need supply troops to make sure you can get supplies to the front, recon so you know what the enemy is capable of, and tracking so you know where they are.

She's a great medical ninja. And if people think she's useless for that, then why isn't there as much Ino haters? Ino was like Sakura. She fangirls over every cute boy, she doesn't fight and she's a medical ninja. Seriously...-_-)

I don't know if people think she's useless for being a medic, I know I wouldn't want to live without doctors. The way she makes mistakes in battle that effect her team because of her position may have something to do with it though.
The only reason there isn't as many Ino haters is because Ino isn't around all the time. If she were, no doubt her haters would spring up, there's a great many that dislike her for her minor role as it is.

7. I've heard some people say that they don't like her because of the issue she had with Ino. (Might I point out that the situation between those two are over. They're great friends again. Sure they may still be rival-ish once in a while, but they're friends now. I believe they re-newed their friendship after their fight in the chunnin exam. And also before they became friends again, Ino was a part of the problem too. It takes two to fight.)

Can you blame them? One person, a popular person no less (who'da thought?) takes you aside and becomes friends with you just because. After a bit you come out of your shell little by little and all the while your friend is watching you while giving you a nod and encouragement "maybe a flower more beautiful than a cosmos." Then you get this little idea in your head that for some reason, even though your confidence level has skyrocketed compared to what it once was, it can't anymore if you are still associating with your once great friend. For some reason, women can't improve themselves or create their own identity and be friends at the same time. I would be pretty hurt if I were Ino, because that sounds like bull.

8. She's annoying. (Really? She's never been annoying to me. Well, maybe a little in part one, but she's not anymore...I guess that's based on opinion though. ^^; )

Her hypocrisy is very annoying.

9. She's Ugly. (No she's not. O_O But then again that's another thing based on opinion.)

I guess it is, but she is one of the most unattractive main females I've seen.

10. She cries too much. (She doesn't cry THAT much. C'mon...Naruto has cried quite a few times too ya know.)

Comparing her emotional state to Naruto in part two isn't really helping, put them on a beach and mention Sasuke and they would fill up the pacific.

11. And finally, I've heard some people hate her because they want NaruHina to happen. (:facepalm ...DON'T even get me started on that. No, just...no...)


A few, not all. Many don't care about pairings one way or the other.

So yeah.
Other people just don't like her because she has/had a crush on Sasuke because they're Sasuke fangirls.

:lmao

But overall, I don't see why people should hate Sakura. Me personally, she's my fav. female character. And she's matured a lot and has gotten stronger. Plus she's the most realistic character in the series.

Realistic? Her crowning achievement started by stomping off to Suna for the "let's reintroduce everyone" arc and she now has godmodly medical powers and because the body is so simple it took her about half the time it takes a doc to go to college. Let alone med school. Hell with that, she's a ninja! she cures one of the highest ranked poisons by pulling it out of Kank using magical poison extracty no jutsu, giving a mix of several herbs that were conveniently growing nearby. Too bad none of the Suna medics knew what was in their own facilities, every sand medic ever including super old Chiyo( who happens to know how to bring a person back from the dead or an inanimate object to life) may not have been schooled.
After she stood back in the fight with Itachi and "stealthily" broke into the cave came her moment in the sun. She with a lot of help from granny's and her threads they managed to take down the man who took down a country (ignoring that improbability). They were the perfect match because granny knew all his moves! Even though it had been years since she's seen him and even though he had made improvements to Hiruko, I guess he didn't to his fighting style. The guy that killed the strongest kage that Suna ever produced get's caught by Sakura the nothingth of nothingland and not just once. All of this after having the worst work ethic in part one. She had more moves than the "I'm so much better than you" Neji who actually trained until he passed out. The most realistic? Hm.

And after all that, she's back to being the damsel in distress the very next arc. Her super dodging skills disappear, she's knocked out very quickly, she makes poor decisions as a spectator after being called the next Tsunade. She didn't change into another character, she slightly toned down some of the things she used to do. At the same time she gained an (unreasonable) amount of bravado and arrogance.

I don't see much reason to hate her. =/
But if you hate her, I guess that's your opinion. ^^; Lol

And sorry, I had to say what I believed after the reasons why people hated Sakura. I guess I wanted to clear some things up. :LOS I'm done ranting. Lol

:amuse

Para
10-10-2008, 08:35 PM
* She gets in the way of SasuNaru/NaruHina and other pairings - Pairing fan hate
* She was a bitch to Naruto in part one - Naruto fan hate
* She's meant to be the main female character, but was useless throughout part one - Feminist hate
* She was (probably still is but more subtly) a major Sasuke fangirl/stalker - Sasuke hater/fan hate

I think that covers most of the angles. I personally like her, especially recently, but I can see where the hatred of her character comes from.

Starr
10-10-2008, 08:39 PM
Actualy i wasn't talking about the blushing i was talking about the hyperventilating the general freaking out. NOT NORMAL I TELLS YEE!

P.S Lighten up.

-_- I thought this thread was "Why is Sakura hated"? not any other character :zaru

Anyways, hating a character because of a pairing is umm.. dumb I guess :huh
can't come up with any other word besides that..lol

Yup, I think this thread will be trashed soon enough

anime_master2005
10-10-2008, 10:13 PM
Because it's Sakura.

The-Phat-Kat
10-10-2008, 10:19 PM
Here are my reasons:

The Weed Mistaken for a Flower (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=398576)

I neg u b/c thats how you like it, and i like what you like bby :zaru

SammyKat
10-10-2008, 11:26 PM
I think the sakura hate is really a subjective thing. Yeah, some people have really dumb reasons but it's all personal opinion.

Sango-chan
10-11-2008, 12:10 AM
I personaly have mixed feelings about her or more like a like/hate type thing that make it hard for me to make her one of my favorite characters in the show.:oh

ZigZag
10-11-2008, 01:37 AM
I have nothing against her, so I really can't give you a good reason.. :noworry

Kage
10-11-2008, 01:37 AM
:lmao because many see her as an asset and not a liability, in other words, she's more prone to getting in trouble on her own...and she can't get herself out of trouble, or get others out of trouble without someone ELSE'S help :argh

in addition to that her personality is none too desirable either :zaru

Sunagakure Temari
10-11-2008, 02:25 AM
I disliked Sakura in part 1 'cos I thought she was really annoying with her fangirlish obsession over Sasuke and worse still, she couldn't seem to do anything at all during missions, it was like Sasuke, Naruto and Kakashi were the only ninjas of team 7. Her perfect chakra control didn't impress me all that much because, well, could she actually do anything with it? (Apart from walking up a tree and creating bunshins without wasting chakra.)

I began liking her in part 2, though, mostly because of her smashy-smashy fighting style. People think it's manly, but so? At least she can actually do something now. And so what if it's a copy of Tsunade's. She is Tsunade's disciple. Her outfit was much better in Shippuuden too, and I think she looked better with her short hair in part 2.

Weak
10-11-2008, 03:33 AM
Most people hate her for a variety of weird, sometimes irrational and subjective reasons. I honestly don't get it, myself.

I think most of it derives from her character in the midst of Part 1, and as far as I'm concerned there were supposed to be unlikeable traits in her personality to draw a contrast with Part 2.

Her character develops quite a bit, but this development is ignored by many for reasons I can't understand.

What bothers me intensely is the belief that she "abuses Naruto". Such moments aren't even intended to express her personality or affect her relations with the other characters. Both her and Naruto are typically painted with wacky expressions and he's sent flying in a physically extreme manner, or there's a lump on his head. It's just a style of slapstick humor common in Japanese Anime and Manga that's supposed to make the viewer smile. I'd go as far to say that she doesn't even really hit him. Even if it is depicted in the manga (and excessively in the anime), it has no impact on the story and may as well be disregarded.

Kage
10-11-2008, 05:02 AM
I'd go as far to say that she doesn't even really hit him. Even if it is depicted in the manga (and excessively in the anime), it has no impact on the story and may as well be disregarded.

:oh

i guess the punches she threw, the bumps, bruises and blood on naruto afterward is just a figment of everyone's imagination.

:facepalm

it may not affect the story overall but regardless of what you think it does say something about her personality. not very pleasant things either.

if i punched the shit out of everyone just because i can't take a joke i can't help but wonder if i would have any friends at all :zaru

Nao Yuki
10-11-2008, 05:17 AM
Everybody thinks Sakura is ugly but alot of men thinks she is smexy including me.:jk

By the way I'm a pedophile:nosebleed

forgotten_hero
10-11-2008, 05:31 AM
Because she has a huge forehead and pink hair.

Actually, because she's a bitch to Naruto.

Weak
10-11-2008, 06:39 AM
:oh

i guess the punches she threw, the bumps, bruises and blood on naruto afterward is just a figment of everyone's imagination.

:facepalm

it may not affect the story overall but regardless of what you think it does say something about her personality. not very pleasant things either.

if i punched the shit out of everyone just bkura for wacky humor, I can only imagine that they'decause i can't take a joke i can't help but wonder if i would have any friends at all :zaru

You're evaluating this whole "hitting" thing in a different context. Yes, that's true in reality, but here it's completely different.

Naruto doesn't wear bandages after the fact, and he's not bleeding in later scenes. It's exaggerated physical humor that has no impact on the characters. There isn't anything serious about the sitations, and neither of them are emotionally affected. In that sense, she isn't explicitly hitting Naruto. If she really hits him, we'll know.

Maybe if he became depressed and talked about how he wished Sakura were nicer to him then it would matter, but he doesn't. It's irrelevant to both her and Naruto, and using it to criticize her character alone is a little absurd, if not plain ignorant.

Kage
10-11-2008, 07:27 AM
You're evaluating this whole "hitting" thing in a different context. Yes, that's true in reality, but here it's completely different.

Naruto doesn't wear bandages after the fact, and he's not bleeding in later scenes. It's exaggerated physical humor that has no impact on the characters. There isn't anything serious about the sitations, and neither of them are emotionally affected. In that sense, she isn't explicitly hitting Naruto. If she really hits him, we'll know.

Maybe if he became depressed and talked about how he wished Sakura were nicer to him then it would matter, but he doesn't. It's irrelevant to both her and Naruto, and using it to criticize her character alone is a little absurd, if not plain ignorant.

:sag

i'm sorry if i think the way she handles her lack of a sense of humor isn't very becoming.

actually i'm not. :argh

if naruto had to become all emo after she punched him this would be a different kind of story all together.

'exaggerated humor that has no effect on the characters' isn't a good excuse for her bitchy mood swings pal.

Inuhanyou
10-11-2008, 08:28 AM
But, you should be wary of the term "tsundere". Shounen is always going to employ this type of character, in some shape or form, that won't change. (Its usually defined as "A unusually violent character who changes throughout their experiences to become accepting and somewhat demure")


What happens is you have to read behind what you see, if all you see is Sakura hitting Naruto into a wall then obviously, yes your going to assume she's got some issues to work out and if that happened in real life, then yes your also going to call the police in most situations.

But really it doesn't play a part in their relationship at all(or rather, it doesn't play a negative part in their relationship), some may find it funny, some may not, but at the end of the day its not a factor in their relationship that needs tending to, and almost like a show they put on, if not to the viewers, than to each other, like an act to dance around similar to Ichigo and Rukia's bickering, it goes from truly uncomprehendingly abusive on her side in part 1, to just how they interact as friendly banter in part 2..

Sai even said Sakura was "gentle" with Naruto..in this case, would it not be right to assume that Sai has completely erased all mentions of Sakura's abuse? There's a very big reason for that.

"Comedic relief" is not an excuse on her part, but its all up to the person in how they view it, obviously some are going to have reservations about the logic of such actions, but its all in how the author views the characters.

And that only covers the "abuse" aspect on Sakura's side in long term. If you want to make a case out of the facts, i won't try and defend any times in part 1 because of her attitude, so if we only go by part 2, she's only hit him 2 times, once when he was doing a stupid perverted thing in front of everybody, and a second time when he insulted her unknowingly.

And as for the accusation that she's somehow a "mary-sue", the fact that her attitude is a problem for a lot of people should say differently..not to mention being trained by a legendary sannin will get you places if you have the drive..and Sakura just happened to have good chakra control to be her student..can't really see anything mary-sueish about that..

So yea, it only depends on how people view the situation, but what i just wanted to say is they must first consider the authors intent and reaction before saying "she's only doing this because she's a bitch/slut/whorebag/twotimer/asshole/abuser, and i hate her because she's a bitch/marysue/filler/lolsakura"

And hey who knows, maybe she'll have lightened up soon enough on him if you still can't stand it, she's got maturing to do after all, or so Kishi said..unless its just going to be labeled as "character PNJ" either way, in which case i can see no help for the situation.

Balalaika
10-11-2008, 02:33 PM
You're evaluating this whole "hitting" thing in a different context. Yes, that's true in reality, but here it's completely different.

Naruto doesn't wear bandages after the fact, and he's not bleeding in later scenes. It's exaggerated physical humor that has no impact on the characters. There isn't anything serious about the sitations, and neither of them are emotionally affected. In that sense, she isn't explicitly hitting Naruto. If she really hits him, we'll know.

Maybe if he became depressed and talked about how he wished Sakura were nicer to him then it would matter, but he doesn't. It's irrelevant to both her and Naruto, and using it to criticize her character alone is a little absurd, if not plain ignorant.

My son hits someone to stop something he doesn't like=hitting.
She hits him to make him stop something she doesn't like=still hitting.

Why is it irrelevant? Why shouldn't it count as part of her character, because it's comedy? What gives her the right to smack around her friends? We teach the smallest of children that hitting is not nice, but it's acceptable from Sakura who is supposed to be a more mature person and more accepting of Naruto? If Sakura wasn't emotionally effected, she wouldn't be hitting him in the first place, she needs to calm down and keep her hands to herself or perhaps she can go to a daycare to learn how to play nice with others.


But, you should be wary of the term "tsundere". Shounen is always going to employ this type of character, in some shape or form, that won't change. (Its usually defined as "A unusually violent character who changes throughout their experiences to become accepting and somewhat demure")

I would rather have her fully accept her friend than be that demure.

What happens is you have to read behind what you see, if all you see is Sakura hitting Naruto into a wall then obviously, yes your going to assume she's got some issues to work out and if that happened in real life, then yes your also going to call the police in most situations.

But really it doesn't play a part in their relationship at all(or rather, it doesn't play a negative part in their relationship), some may find it funny, some may not, but at the end of the day its not a factor in their relationship that needs tending to, and almost like a show they put on, if not to the viewers, than to each other, like an act to dance around similar to Ichigo and Rukia's bickering, it goes from truly uncomprehendingly abusive on her side in part 1, to just how they interact as friendly banter in part 2..

I think it plays a very negative part in how Naruto's character is perceived. The boy will stand up to the 50 ft. toad boss, Jiraiya, scream at Orochimaru, backtalk to Kakashi, and disobey Tsunade, a deadlier version of Sakura on all counts, but if he anger is teammate he cowers? Why? There's no funny banter on his part, he's just getting pummeled. If Kishi was going for comedy, why not make it like Karin and Sui? They know how to antagonize each other so at least Sui doesn't seem like a limp noodle while he takes a thrashing.
Rukia and Ichigo aren't the same. Ichigo has told Rukia to shut her mouth, her opinions didn't matter while saving her Just as she smacked him and told him to get the hell over it and defeat one measly hollow. It actually goes back and forth between the two so it feels somewhat balanced.
What about Sai? What gives her the right to smack him around? They weren't buddies. He said what many in Konoha were probably thinking and it wasn't her place to dole out discipline, she sure isn't the squad leader.

Sai even said Sakura was "gentle" with Naruto..in this case, would it not be right to assume that Sai has completely erased all mentions of Sakura's abuse? There's a very big reason for that.

Yeah, she was really gentle when she socked him in the stomach right after she had to heal him after the four tail indecent. She's a medic, she should know better. He was recovering. Bad form Sakura.

"Comedic relief" is not an excuse on her part, but its all up to the person in how they view it, obviously some are going to have reservations about the logic of such actions, but its all in how the author views the characters.

I agree that it's not an excuse.

And that only covers the "abuse" aspect on Sakura's side in long term. If you want to make a case out of the facts, i won't try and defend any times in part 1 because of her attitude, so if we only go by part 2, she's only hit him 2 times, once when he was doing a stupid perverted thing in front of everybody, and a second time when he insulted her unknowingly.

So when does Sakura get a punishment system for when she does something stupid or insulting? One smack for insulting, two for stupid? Or maybe we should mix it up with a choke? It shouldn't hurt their relationship.

And as for the accusation that she's somehow a "mary-sue", the fact that her attitude is a problem for a lot of people should say differently..not to mention being trained by a legendary sannin will get you places if you have the drive..and Sakura just happened to have good chakra control to be her student..can't really see anything mary-sueish about that..

Anko, Shizune, those two other kids on Jiraiya's team, they were trained by Sannin as well. Why is Anko only a special Jounin? Why is Shizune so easily passed over for Sakura? Who knows how diligently the others on the yondy's team worked, but it must have been hard seeing as it was wartime, and their lives were at stake.
Sakura had no drive in part one; the worst work ethic, yet she collects more new things to show off than Neji a genius who also trained until he was unconscious?

So yea, it only depends on how people view the situation, but what i just wanted to say is they must first consider the authors intent and reaction before saying "she's only doing this because she's a bitch/slut/whorebag/twotimer/asshole/abuser, and i hate her because she's a bitch/marysue/filler/lolsakura"

I've considered, but I can also think for myself.

And hey who knows, maybe she'll have lightened up soon enough on him if you still can't stand it, she's got maturing to do after all, or so Kishi said..unless its just going to be labeled as "character PNJ" either way, in which case i can see no help for the situation.


I have a lot more besides just hitting a guy I don't even like but she's supposed to. It seems to be the one that people think we dislike her the most for though. :amuse

Weak
10-11-2008, 04:40 PM
Sakura hitting Naruto is still roughly equivalent to a cartoon wife bopping her husband with a frying pan.

Since this slapstick is so common, there's bound to be tons of characters in anime and manga that you can't stand. It's almost like a tradition in those forms of entertainment, so I'm still amazed people are actually bothered by it.

I guess people just really hate Sakura.

mednin
10-11-2008, 04:54 PM
Probably because of what happened when she was younger and how mean she used to be to Naruto. Now, she just jokes around with him.

MasterSitsu
10-11-2008, 04:55 PM
Sakura hitting Naruto is still roughly equivalent to a cartoon wife bopping her husband with a frying pan.

Since this slapstick is so common, there's bound to be tons of characters in anime and manga that you can't stand. It's almost like a tradition in those forms of entertainment, so I'm still amazed people are actually bothered by it.

I guess people just really hate Sakura.
I don't really hate Sakura but I do find her treatment of Naruto annoying. Kinda like Kagome and her "sit boy" command but now its a super punch to the head.

Apperantly people in Japan find it humerous when girls have anger issues I find it obnoxious IMHO of cource.

Balalaika
10-11-2008, 04:56 PM
Sakura hitting Naruto is still roughly equivalent to a cartoon wife bopping her husband with a frying pan.

Since this slapstick is so common, there's bound to be tons of characters in anime and manga that you can't stand. It's almost like a tradition in those forms of entertainment, so I'm still amazed people are actually bothered by it.

Had she been a funny character, or if it had happened less, it may have been easier to overlook.
And I'm sure that if we were watching something produced where it was admissible to smack around your wife everyone would accept it because it's tradition. Just because it's old doesn't make it all that funny or acceptable behavior. She's merely bullying people who won't do anything about it. Not just Naruto, but Sai and Konohamaru as well.

I guess people just really hate Sakura.

I guess there's people that I]really[/I] can't handle that fact.

Cam
10-11-2008, 04:57 PM
"Flat chested bore."

That's what most people say but I kinda like her.

Yαriko
10-11-2008, 05:01 PM
"Flat chested bore."

That's what most people say but I kinda like her.

everyone has different preferences:nod

me too:noworry

*omg elle set*

MachineCore
10-11-2008, 05:02 PM
Why is it irrelevant? Why shouldn't it count as part of her character, because it's comedy? What gives her the right to smack around her friends? We teach the smallest of children that hitting is not nice, but it's acceptable from Sakura who is supposed to be a more mature person and more accepting of Naruto? If Sakura wasn't emotionally effected, she wouldn't be hitting him in the first place, she needs to calm down and keep her hands to herself or perhaps she can go to a daycare to learn how to play nice with others.

I honestly can't belive what i just read. Your projecting your own life experiences and cultural views on a fictional character.

Its an established tradition of not just Shounen Manga but just about every light hearted manga out there that the female lead ALWAYS kicks around the male lead. Particularly if there is some sexual tension between them. I can give you some examples if you want.

Dragonball: Chichi belabours her husband (who bear in mind could have a building fall on him and not feel it) about the head with a frying pan.

Fruits Basket: Kagura is supposedly in love with the male lead and proceeds to beat him up to an extreme and comic degree. In one scene we see her whirling him around her head like a windmill.

Ranma 1/2: Christ were do i even begin on that one. Everybody hits, crushes, runs over, dropkicks, and brutalises Ranma. Mostly just as a way of saying good morning.

Full Metal Panic: Kaname flings Sousuke around like a rag doll hurling him in front of cars, punching him, and when all else fails whipping him about the head with a Haraozen....and a baseball bat a couple of times :laugh and thats just in the serious version.

Bleach: Rukia, kicks punches savages, piledrivers and hits Icigo with furniture. In fact when she reappears after the soul society arc her mode of greeting is a nice friendly smack in the face. In fact taking it as seriously as you seem to be Bleach could be seen to advocate child abuse since Ichigo's dad seems to enjoy drop kicking his son in the face as a way of greeting.

Hmmmm the whole argument that Sakura abuses Naruto is starting to look a little limp now considering nearly every anime has one crazy ultra violent woman.

The woman beating the snot out of the man is a stable part of Japanese humour mainly stemming from the tradition in Japans past where women were thought of as demure and subserviant.

Sorry for the long post but i really have gotten sick of the "Sakura abuses Naruto" posts. For gods sake read some other manga and watch some other anime before you say that.

Sister Eda
10-11-2008, 05:05 PM
Rukia and Ichigo aren't the same. Ichigo has told Rukia to shut her mouth, her opinions didn't matter while saving her Just as she smacked him and told him to get the hell over it and defeat one measly hollow.




I think there's a one scene in Naruto part 1. Naruto became rude to Sakura like that scene from bleach..

just want to share

the time Sasuke and Naruto fought in he hospital. Sakura is crying until Naruto got angry and he got so rude to say to Sakura that words that can really hurt feelings. even I got hurt when Naruto told that line to Sakura and Sakura got more teary eyes too. Naruto is also soo serious in that scene like he doesn't care about Sakura feeling. but I'm soo happy to see that scene when I'm watching that, I don't know why. I think because of hating Sakura..

DattebaYAOI-chan♥
10-11-2008, 05:10 PM
My reason is founded

I will give youno other information~>.>

Levithian
10-11-2008, 05:27 PM
I agree with most of what Balalaika is saying, which is mostly also my opinion on the matter, and I would just like to add and say again, there is nothing funny about Sakura's behavior and no real excuses.

Balalaika
10-11-2008, 05:44 PM
I honestly can't belive what i just read. Your projecting your own life experiences and cultural views on a fictional character.

Because it's not nice to hit friends? That's a cultural thing now?

Its an established tradition of not just Shounen Manga but just about every light hearted manga out there that the female lead ALWAYS kicks around the male lead. Particularly if there is some sexual tension between them. I can give you some examples if you want.

Maybe that's why the joke's so old hat. Just because it's traditional doesn't make it right or particularly funny.

Dragonball: Chichi belabours her husband (who bear in mind could have a building fall on him and not feel it) about the head with a frying pan.

Maybe a woman who beats he son for having a alien monkey tail when she had sex with an alien is why she frequently called a bitch. You aren't helping you're case.

Fruits Basket: Kagura is supposedly in love with the male lead and proceeds to beat him up to an extreme and comic degree. In one scene we see her whirling him around her head like a windmill.

Not familiar with this one.

Ranma 1/2: Christ were do i even begin on that one. Everybody hits, crushes, runs over, dropkicks, and brutalises Ranma. Mostly just as a way of saying good morning.

Sounds like a great way to live, wish it were my life! :zaru

Full Metal Panic: Kaname flings Sousuke around like a rag doll hurling him in front of cars, punching him, and when all else fails whipping him about the head with a Haraozen....and a baseball bat a couple of times :laugh and thats just in the serious version.


It's always nice when the guy that saves your but gets screwed. :zaru

Bleach: Rukia, kicks punches savages, piledrivers and hits Icigo with furniture. In fact when she reappears after the soul society arc her mode of greeting is a nice friendly smack in the face. In fact taking it as seriously as you seem to be Bleach could be seen to advocate child abuse since Ichigo's dad seems to enjoy drop kicking his son in the face as a way of greeting.


She was helping him get over something that might have cost him if he didn't get over quickly, she needed to help him rebuild his confidence.
He also abuses his dad in the face and he's probably old enough to get hauled off for it, so we can send them both to jail to share a cell, how's that?

Hmmmm the whole argument that Sakura abuses Naruto is starting to look a little limp now considering nearly every anime has one crazy ultra violent woman.

I don't really care if they're violent in Naruto. They're killers for hire for god sake. But they're supposed to be on the same team. A well functioning machine works if the parts move together. Not only does she dole out hits on Naruto when he's recovering from injury, but she also hits the kid Konohamaru and her other teammate Sai. She has also been insubordinate to Yamato during her dealing which is bad form for her position, is that a cultural thing as well?

The woman beating the snot out of the man is a stable part of Japanese humour mainly stemming from the tradition in Japans past where women were thought of as demure and subserviant.

Really? I thought it stemmed from the tradition of females having dominance in the home.

Sorry for the long post but i really have gotten sick of the "Sakura abuses Naruto" posts. For gods sake read some other anime before you say that.

I've been reading manga and watching anime for well over 10 years. Have you ever thought that it's her delivery that makes the joke unfunny? Maybe the joke just got stale and we realize that if women shouldn't be punched in the face by someone they love then why should men?

I think there's a one scene in Naruto part 1. Naruto became rude to Sakura like that scene from bleach..

just want to share

the time Sasuke and Naruto fought in he hospital. Sakura is crying until Naruto got angry and he got so rude to say to Sakura that words that can really hurt feelings. even I got hurt when Naruto told that line to Sakura and Sakura got more teary eyes too. Naruto is also soo serious in that scene like he doesn't care about Sakura feeling. but I'm soo happy to see that scene when I'm watching that, I don't know why. I think because of hating Sakura..

I knew this was coming. Telling her not to interfere next time was not as rude as Ichigo telling rukia she had no say in weather she was to live or die before chucking her to Renji. Sakura almost got killed in that little match between Naruto and Sasuke she ran into the middle of it. Chidori and Resengan might have canceled each other out, but Sakura would still be a goner thanks to her own decisions.

MachineCore
10-11-2008, 05:57 PM
Balalaika why are you even reading Manga? From the sounds of it your going to have a problem with just about every female lead going!

Balalaika
10-11-2008, 06:05 PM
There are quite a few that don't fit into that stereotype and there are many others that are by no means considered "nice" but are interesting enough characters for me to want to continue reading, many are villains or anti heroes though. Their behavior is not as strange when they aren't supposed to be sweet.

SammyKat
10-11-2008, 07:24 PM
My son hits someone to stop something he doesn't like=hitting.
She hits him to make him stop something she doesn't like=still hitting.

Why is it irrelevant? Why shouldn't it count as part of her character, because it's comedy? What gives her the right to smack around her friends? We teach the smallest of children that hitting is not nice, but it's acceptable from Sakura who is supposed to be a more mature person and more accepting of Naruto? If Sakura wasn't emotionally effected, she wouldn't be hitting him in the first place, she needs to calm down and keep her hands to herself or perhaps she can go to a daycare to learn how to play nice with others.


So...from the sounds of it, you see her as a bad role model? I understand if you think that the joke's old but have you ever thought that maybe it's not that old to the intended audience? This is a manga aimed at boys aged roughly between 10 to 15-16 and at that age, a lot of kids, especially boys, laugh at comedic violence - which is all it's meant to be at the end of the day. If you don't like, don't read. Or at least try to lighten up and take it as it is.

I do think your reasoning is interesting though cos it kinda reminds me of my theory for why you get character "hate" that has rather personal reasons behind it. I genuinely think that there is a lot of projection going on when people hate a character for a lot of the reasons that Sakura is hated. Maybe it's because of personal insecurities or life experiences. I know that no one really admits that this could have a lot to do with why they allow themselves to develop a "hatred" for a character for such personal reasons (i.e. "she's a bully", "she's a bitch") I genuinely think that they're projected something from their own lives onto the character. There's nothing wrong with that, I just think that it's something that really does happen (I've seen someone in a different fandom say that they hate a character cos she reminds them of someone who used to bully them) and it's an interesting reaction to have.

It also tells me that the writer has done a good job by making their characters so tangible to people. :amuse

Balalaika
10-11-2008, 07:49 PM
So...from the sounds of it, you see her as a bad role model? I understand if you think that the joke's old but have you ever thought that maybe it's not that old to the intended audience? This is a manga aimed at boys aged roughly between 10 to 15-16 and at that age, a lot of kids, especially boys, laugh at comedic violence - which is all it's meant to be at the end of the day. If you don't like, don't read. Or at least try to lighten up and take it as it is.

I do think she's a poor role model. But not for that reason alone. I've given a large list of reasons why I dislike her, and this happened to be the one that was snatched upon. I don't even care that much about Naruto, but she does, so it's odd to me that you would hurt someone who's suffered through much already that you are supposes to be comrades with. The target audience may be a certain age but a much larger range watches it, are we not supposed to get anything from it because it's not "for us"?
If the mangaka wasn't ready for criticism, then he shouldn't have published it. It comes with your work being in the public eye.

I do think your reasoning is interesting though cos it kinda reminds me of my theory for why you get character "hate" that has rather personal reasons behind it. I genuinely think that there is a lot of projection going on when people hate a character for a lot of the reasons that Sakura is hated.

This is hardly different from many people who like a character, they connect with something in the character, either they see something in themselves, or they want to see something in themselves in that character. They latch on, what's the difference?

Maybe it's because of personal insecurities or life experiences. I know that no one really admits that this could have a lot to do with why they allow themselves to develop a "hatred" for a character for such personal reasons (i.e. "she's a bully", "she's a bitch") I genuinely think that they're projected something from their own lives onto the character.

How about the character actually being a bully? Actually acting like a bitch? Insubordinate? Things just can't be as simple as that, can they?

There's nothing wrong with that, I just think that it's something that really does happen (I've seen someone in a different fandom say that they hate a character cos she reminds them of someone who used to bully them) and it's an interesting reaction to have.


Maybe some in the fandom see something in Sakura that they don't like in themselves and they hate her for it? :amuse

It also tells me that the writer has done a good job by making their characters so tangible to people. :amuse

If Sakura had the amount of panel time as Ino, I doubt many of us would dislike her as much as we do. Tangible? I haven't met anyone as stuffed full of contradicting traits ever, she makes a manic depressive sufferers look normal. I can't imagine her actually being real.

SammyKat
10-11-2008, 08:01 PM
How about the character actually being a bully? Actually acting like a bitch? Insubordinate? Things just can't be as simple as that, can they?


It's still a form of projection. You see, not everyone looks at Sakura and sees and bitch or a bully. Some people see a strong female character who is flawed, admits to her flaws and works hard to better herself. Yes, people who like her project a lot too when they give subjective opinions. I genuinelly think if you use subjective reasoning like that then it's either because you're really, really into the series or you're projecting onto that character. It's a simple opinion but it's still subjective and on many occasions it is still projection. You're projecting traits that you dislike in real life onto a fictional character that you see as displaying those very traits.

A non-subjective or or non-projective opionion to me is something along the lines of "I don't like the way she's written", "I think she's poorly developed", "I find it hard to see where she fits into the plot." I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with it, I just find the way different fans respond to things fascinating.

悪人
10-11-2008, 08:05 PM
Bala and kageneko speak nothing but truth.

There may be other manga that have the whole female-hitting male scenes, but after seeing something like that for the 43513206 time it no longer becomes funny. And when you have a character like Sakura who does hit/strangle/whatever Naruto so many times, not only does it not become funny, but just plain bullying. I have to wonder about the people who still find that entertaining and should know better.

SammyKat
10-11-2008, 08:08 PM
Because the people who still find it amusing can appreciate that it's just a cartoon that's not meant to be taken seriously perhaps?

悪人
10-11-2008, 08:11 PM
Because the people who still find it amusing can appreciate that it's just a cartoon that's not meant to be taken seriously perhaps?

After the 54326254641 time? Well, good for you. :zaru

MachineCore
10-11-2008, 08:30 PM
Bala, Tyki Please lighten up. Its just a Manga its not real. She's not bullying him its called a literary device your treating it like Sakura is a real person.

Aldric
10-11-2008, 08:34 PM
I don't mind the hitting since it's obvious it's idiotic comic relief (though it's completely unfunny) as much as something like chapter 408 where you see her being visibly annoyed at a grieving person, a person who's supposed to be her best friend

I mean what the fuck was that, I'd be in Naruto's situation and one of my friends would pull off something like that in real life I'd sock him/her in the face

Call it "projecting" all you like but that's still part of Sakura's characterization that makes her a completely unlikeable character

Kage
10-11-2008, 08:55 PM
Bala, Tyki Please lighten up. Its just a Manga its not real. She's not bullying him its called a literary device your treating it like Sakura is a real person.

you should take your own advice. it's just a manga, it's not real so is it really necessary to defend her so vigorously? with literacy devices, shounen staple...etc


is it so hard to accept that people think she's being overly aggressive for no good reason whatsoever to people who don't really deserve it? geezus.

MachineCore
10-11-2008, 09:06 PM
you should take your own advice. it's just a manga, it's not real so is it really necessary to defend her so vigorously? with literacy devices, shounen staple...etc


is it so hard to accept that people think she's being overly aggressive for no good reason whatsoever to people who don't really deserve it? geezus.

Perhaps people wouldn't feel the need to defend her so vigerously if people werent so vociferous in their character bashing and so ready to ridicule anybody who defends her.

MasterSitsu
10-11-2008, 09:16 PM
Perhaps people wouldn't feel the need to defend her so vigerously if people werent so vociferous in their character bashing and so ready to ridicule anybody who defends her.
All characters are hated simple as that.

Kage
10-11-2008, 09:22 PM
Perhaps people wouldn't feel the need to defend her so vigerously if people werent so vociferous in their character bashing and so ready to ridicule anybody who defends her.

this goes both ways. we make an observation, a fan takes it personally, tells us to 'lighten up this is not real'

this was never about ridiculing people who defend her. more about people who refuse to believe that her exaggerated humor isn't uncalled for, isn't important and isn't a reflection of her character. jumping at the chance to tell us how very shounen this is. doesn't mean we have to think it's right.

MachineCore
10-11-2008, 10:24 PM
No actualy it was intended to establish that challenge your perception of her as a bullying thug.

Sasuke_Fan
10-11-2008, 11:44 PM
She's annoying. I just hate her over-the-top personality and bitchiness. It's like she's being forced down our throats, basically.

SammyKat
10-11-2008, 11:49 PM
She's one of the main characters and the primary female character, what can you expect? :huh To be honest, from a Sakura fan, I wish there was more of her cos when she actually gets to fight she kicks ASS! But then, I like that brawling style of fighting.

Mai
10-12-2008, 12:08 AM
I hate Sakura in part 1 because she's overly obsessed with Sasuke. I like her in Shippudden. Obsessed Sasuke fangirls hate her because she's too BAKA for Sasuke. I dislike Ino too in part 1, she's also like Sakura. xD

Sister Eda
10-12-2008, 03:19 AM
hey.. just want to add some info's


please don't hate Sakura for being a sadistic freak. I think Masashi Kishimoto is just inspired of Sassy Girl Movie. and mostly asians like Japanese girls are too violent to take. it's normal to them, I mean it is a sign of respect if the girls are getting to strict to those boy friends and hurt them easily. because they are showing that they are not too easy to get. it also measure the temper of those gentle man out there like Naruto how he handled it. Even me, I even slap my guy friends whenever they crack some pervert jokes because it's getting girls in the ground. I mean asian girls really has limit when it comes to boys. it is tradition through all Asian mongols girls. including Korea, Chinese, Japan, Philippines, Taiwan etc.

and that Masashi Kishimoto give that style to Sakura to show more about Japanese, Asian Girls. can't you notice. even in bleach! Girls spanks guys that easily. but when you're watching disney world or in cartoon network. they'res no such thing as like that


just sharing.. :)

Uchiha HAHAHA
10-12-2008, 03:23 AM
Because she's a b***h but i like b***h' types.

Balalaika
10-12-2008, 03:30 AM
It's still a form of projection. You see, not everyone looks at Sakura and sees and bitch or a bully. Some people see a strong female character who is flawed, admits to her flaws and works hard to better herself. Yes, people who like her project a lot too when they give subjective opinions. I genuinelly think if you use subjective reasoning like that then it's either because you're really, really into the series or you're projecting onto that character. It's a simple opinion but it's still subjective and on many occasions it is still projection. You're projecting traits that you dislike in real life onto a fictional character that you see as displaying those very traits.

A non-subjective or or non-projective opionion to me is something along the lines of "I don't like the way she's written", "I think she's poorly developed", "I find it hard to see where she fits into the plot." I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with it, I just find the way different fans respond to things fascinating.

I didn't start this series with a genuine dislike for Sakura, not once did I glare at that mop of pink and say, damn that's the one I'm going to target. It was a gradual build of things both pre and post skip that drove me to wonder not only what the hell she was even doing there, but why she had to be written like that. At the very beginning of the skip, I did have higher hopes for her character, but it didn't last as time went on. So I gave a little list of things I feel to be well thought out and subjective reasons on not liking her character.

Why is she disliked by some? It has to do with Sakura doing things to earn her haters. Her personality, her inability to make her growth seem constant and consistent no matter how it's touted. Her high praise by some of the most prominent shinobi in the series with little to show for it. For all of the maturity she's said to posses; she still can't control herself in a battlefield and her actions have consequences that affect the rest of the squad. Perhaps it's because she uses her station in the military to try to make friends with a traitor for nostalgia. Her poor choices in dealing with both Naruto and Sai, while they may have bad manners her's are horrid as well. The fact that her story is bland for being the main female is a big one as well. No personal goal that doesn't pertain to her team, hardly any panels that don't connect with them somehow, even her rivalry with Ino was tainted. The fact that she'll probably surpass Tsunade and a genjutsu power-up will most likely be the device when there's no reasonable explanation why Tsunade doesn't have the same potential in illusions as Sakura besides Kakashi's statement.

There are some reasons, none that had to do with pairing, and all of them are post-skip applicable. :zaru

I don't mind the hitting since it's obvious it's idiotic comic relief (though it's completely unfunny) as much as something like chapter 408 where you see her being visibly annoyed at a grieving person, a person who's supposed to be her best friend

I mean what the fuck was that, I'd be in Naruto's situation and one of my friends would pull off something like that in real life I'd sock him/her in the face

Call it "projecting" all you like but that's still part of Sakura's characterization that makes her a completely unlikeable character

I agree completely. :clap

No actualy it was intended to establish that challenge your perception of her as a bullying thug.

v. bul·lied, bul·ly·ing, bul·lies

v. tr.

1. To treat in an overbearing or intimidating manner. See Synonyms at intimidate.
2. To make (one's way) aggressively.
v. intr.

1. To behave like a bully.
2. To force one's way aggressively or by intimidation: "They bully into line at the gas pump" (Martin Gottfried).
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
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She smacks people around that won't fight her back. she's a bully.

She's one of the main characters and the primary female character, what can you expect? :huh To be honest, from a Sakura fan, I wish there was more of her cos when she actually gets to fight she kicks ASS! But then, I like that brawling style of fighting.

She lost her ass kicking ability when the penis arc rolled around and reverted back to the damsel.

hey.. just want to add some info's


please don't hate Sakura for being a sadistic freak. I think Masashi Kishimoto is just inspired of Sassy Girl Movie. and mostly asians like Japanese girls are too violent to take. it's normal to them, I mean it is a sign of respect if the girls are getting to strict to those boy friends and hurt them easily. because they are showing that they are not too easy to get. it also measure the temper of those gentle man out there like Naruto how he handled it. Even me, I even slap my guy friends whenever they crack some pervert jokes because it's getting girls in the ground. I mean asian girls really has limit when it comes to boys. it is tradition through all Asian mongols girls. including Korea, Chinese, Japan, Philippines, Taiwan etc.

and that Masashi Kishimoto give that style to Sakura to show more about Japanese, Asian Girls. can't you notice. even in bleach! Girls spanks guys that easily. but when you're watching disney world or in cartoon network. they'res no such thing as like that


just sharing.. :)

Women have fists in the west as well, they're just as capable as using them and they do. It doesn't mean the double standard is right.

Sen
10-12-2008, 05:09 AM
I didn't like her in Part I because the only thing she cared about was Sasuke and she treated Naruto really badly. :(

Ina
10-12-2008, 05:27 AM
Because of her "I know everything" attitude, I'm guessing.

Fruits Basket Fan
10-12-2008, 05:30 AM
I don't mind the hitting since it's obvious it's idiotic comic relief (though it's completely unfunny) as much as something like chapter 408 where you see her being visibly annoyed at a grieving person, a person who's supposed to be her best friend

I mean what the fuck was that, I'd be in Naruto's situation and one of my friends would pull off something like that in real life I'd sock him/her in the face

Call it "projecting" all you like but that's still part of Sakura's characterization that makes her a completely unlikeable character

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/408/11/

Naruto was not grieving there (heck, he had a annoyed face as well when Sakura gave him a answer, but instead, he was annoyed by the answer and asked again, which in turn slightly annoyed her)....He was being impatient and comedically slumped when Tsunade verified what Sakura said :oh.....



http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/408/12/

And then there....Naruto exclaimed why he is in a hurry to Sakura.....with Sakura being shown a worried expression or at least understanding by his serious mood at that moment that he does have a reason as to why he is hurrying......

Neither took it personally, and the next chapter....they acted the same as always and wished him good luck......

Kira U. Masaki
10-12-2008, 05:38 AM
mainly because she gets so much screen time yet she is so worthless, not to mention here personality is unlikeable

Tobi-kun01
10-12-2008, 06:56 AM
Because she's a bitch to Naruto and abuses him all the time. She doesn't understand him at all and is selfish and she thinks she knows everything. :facepalm

Tenyume Kasumi
10-12-2008, 07:00 AM
Well, I like her too. But let's just say Kishi is terrible with female character development.

Yumi
10-12-2008, 07:06 AM
I like Sakura but only since shippuuden. In the first part she was really annoying and I hated her fangirlish atitude towards sasuke:notrust......in part one the only thing she was thinking about was sasuke.....she didn't care of the others:notrust.............but now, in shippuuden she realised that she had to make herself usefull and help all her friends and tret them that way:amuse

Kamina
10-12-2008, 07:08 AM
She's filler.

azn_fan_gurl
10-12-2008, 09:19 AM
What's wrong with disliking Sakura's abusive tendencies? Whenever someone says anything about that, someone has to yell 'Shounen girl! Tsundere!'

Yes, we've read manga before. We've seen it. And I actually didn't hate Kagura from Fruits Basket. (Although I don't know why someone pointed that out- Fruits Basket is shoujo...)

If you portray your character a certain way, you expect people to judge them by it. If Kishimoto decides to have Sakura scold Naruto, sometimes even hit him, then he expected people to judge her by that.

If she scolds him for a fault she shares with him, then you would expect people to judge her as an abusive hypocrite.

If she scolds him when she is not his higher-up, but his friend, then you would expect people to think she doesn't know her place.

Let's face it. Sakura is an overly-emotional Chuunin who's decided that she needs to chide Naruto, often for things that she's no better at. It's obvious. When she yells at him for being a pervert, then breaks out in a nosebleed. When she tells him to stop crying, yet she's bawling herself. When she yells at him for being stupid or impatient, when she's made plenty of stupid and impatient moves herself.

It may be shounen, and it may seem like it's just for humor, but Kishimoto puts her that way for a reason. There will always be certain undertones to a character's actions. Some people just choose to ignore them and talk about other things.

Maybe it's not funny to us because we've seen her hit people a million times before. Maybe it's not funny because of the way she delivers it- because there's always that undertone of hypocrisy to it. I don't know why, but to some people, it's just not funny. There's no need to tell us to go read some more manga.

And honestly, 'lighten up' isn't really a good comeback. When you're posting ten times on a thread, defending a character, you're really no better than us.

Yαriko
10-12-2008, 09:21 AM
She's filler.

crushing argument/

:lmao

Aldric
10-12-2008, 09:23 AM
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/408/11/

Naruto was not grieving there (heck, he had a annoyed face as well when Sakura gave him a answer, but instead, he was annoyed by the answer and asked again, which in turn slightly annoyed her)....He was being impatient and comedically slumped when Tsunade verified what Sakura said :oh.....



http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/408/12/

And then there....Naruto exclaimed why he is in a hurry to Sakura.....with Sakura being shown a worried expression or at least understanding by his serious mood at that moment that he does have a reason as to why he is hurrying......

Neither took it personally, and the next chapter....they acted the same as always and wished him good luck......

No one gives a shit

Overrationalize it all you want in a feeble attempt to defend your shitty pairing, you don't behave like that with people you're supposed to love (I'm not talking about romantic love, get off my dick pairingtards thanks in advance) when they're in grief

This is common decency, but apparently Sakura can wipe her ass with it and always have perfectly good reasons to do so

The-Phat-Kat
10-12-2008, 10:20 AM
She's filler.

:zaru .....

(naruxsaku)4ever
10-12-2008, 11:02 AM
Because she's a bitch to Naruto and abuses him all the time. She doesn't understand him at all and is selfish and she thinks she knows everything. :facepalm

Hahah so who understand naruto more than sakura:notrusthinata:rotfl

you just say that because you are naruhina fan:LOS

~riku~
10-12-2008, 11:09 AM
She's filler.



^ .



Let's face it. Sakura is an overly-emotional Chuunin who's decided that she needs to chide Naruto, often for things that she's no better at. It's obvious. When she yells at him for being a pervert, then breaks out in a nosebleed. When she tells him to stop crying, yet she's bawling herself. When she yells at him for being stupid or impatient, when she's made plenty of stupid and impatient moves herself.


I hate her so much, and one of the main reasons I hate her is because she's sucha hypocrite. If I was allowed, I would post manga spoilers. Poor Naru. :ano

Fruits Basket Fan
10-12-2008, 01:36 PM
No one gives a shit

Overrationalize it all you want in a feeble attempt to defend your shitty pairing, you don't behave like that with people you're supposed to love (I'm not talking about romantic love, get off my dick pairingtards thanks in advance) when they're in grief

This is common decency, but apparently Sakura can wipe her ass with it and always have perfectly good reasons to do so

First of all, I was not defending it as a pairing....I was defending Sakura and their friendhship.....

Second of all, Naruto stopped grieving a few chapters ago when Shikamaru gave him some testimony about growing up:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/406/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/406/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/406/17/

....So, in chapter 408, it was just him frustrating over the clue Jiraiya left and being somewhat in a hurry.

You are the one who is overrationalize the scene to try to make it seem like Sakura is being a "insensitive" when it was Naruto who shot her with a annoyed look, first by not accepting her answer just because he was being impatient (and I do not hate Naruto for that, either, both he and Sakura reacted somewhat understandeably).......

Tsunade, Shiho, and Shikamaru did not even took it seriously, Shikamaru just stared at him oddly and Shiho was acting cheerful by telling him to cheer up, when he slumped almost comedically

The next page.....He answered calmly and Sakura listened calmly.....

I was referring to friendship......

What is with the cussing :sag? I did not even use foul language nor was I mocking you :sag?

Feeble attempt? When I typed these posts, I was calm and posted manga pages to show my point.......

Aldric
10-12-2008, 02:18 PM
First of all, I was not defending it as a pairing....I was defending Sakura and their friendhship.....

Second of all, Naruto stopped grieving a few chapters ago when Shikamaru gave him some testimony about growing up....So, in chapter 408, it was just him frustrating over the clue Jiraiya left and being somewhat impatient.

This is an utterly stupid argument. It was ONE DAY after he was told about Jiraiya's death, even if he stopped mopping it was pretty fucking obvious he was still in a stage of grief

But hey, since he isn't obviously crying his eyes out and making a big show out of it Sakura style I guess it means he got over it, so treating him like shit is fair game!

Give me a break

You are the one who is overrationalize the scene to try to make it seem like Sakura is being a "insensitive" when it was Naruto who shot her with a annoyed look, first by not accepting her answer just because he was being impatient (and I do not hate Naruto for that, either, both he and Sakura reacted somewhat understandeably).......

She was being flippant in the first place which added to the fact she apparently didn't even feel like saying a nice word to her grieving friend makes her behavior completely out of place. Again it's pathetic how you tards are trying to put the blame on Naruto in that scene, or at least try to share the blame.

Tsunade, Shiho, and Shikamaru did not even took it seriously, Shikamaru just stared at him oddly and Shiho was acting cheerful by telling him to cheer up, when he slumped almost comedically

What the hell does this have to do with anything

The next page.....He answered calmly and Sakura listened calmly.....

He also shot her a look that clearly showed she should shut her fucking mouth, which she conveniently did

He was still too nice though, should probably have rasenganed the bitch into Sand country

I was referring to friendship......

What is with the cussing ? I did not even use foul language nor was I mocking you ?

Feeble attempt? When I typed these posts, I was calm and posted manga pages to show my point.......

Bla bla bla

As I said I'm not the one trying to excuse her complete lack of the most basic common decency

Next time one of the people you're supposed to care for loses someone dear try to act the way Sakura did, first not even interested in knowing how he feels, then flippant, and finally ANNOYED, and see how well that shit flies

Good thing Naruto has an almost Christic ability to forgive people treating him like a dog

The-Phat-Kat
10-12-2008, 03:27 PM
She's filler.

:edu ......

Temp_Position
10-12-2008, 03:54 PM
I think kishi said she was suppose to represent human weaknesses. People usually love characters that represent human strengths. Therefore, people hate her. She represents everything people hate about themselves or other people. I think its possible to like her. She just needs a lot of anger management therapy. Other than that, shes a really good shinobi.

Balalaika
10-12-2008, 04:10 PM
Lee is supposed to represent human weakness as well, but I doubt he has gathered the amount of haters that Sakura has.

Temp_Position
10-12-2008, 04:27 PM
^ Lee hardly has any screen time, but he does have a lot more to admire than Sakura, like his never give up attitude. Sakura on the otherhand has been portrayed as a very angry character, and it covers all of the other things she is good at like her chakra control, medical knowledge and tsunade like powers. Overall, it doesnt matter what she's good at, people dont like her personality. It sucks.

Creator
10-12-2008, 04:44 PM
Her personality.

The way she is to Naruto.

And also how shes replacing Tsunade even though they have nothing in common. :notrust

izzyisozaki
10-12-2008, 05:03 PM
Personally I don't think it's just her Sasuke fangirl - it's her often irrational violence. Her arrogance is exceeding. I care for Sakura cos I appreciate her positive aspects and the angst-relief she brings to T7, but other than that, I can hardly call myself a fan of her behavior. She's far more pleasant than in Part 1, however, and I think there's a lot more to her.

The-Phat-Kat
10-12-2008, 06:22 PM
She is a wasted talent she picked the wrong time to get strong. Just because Sasuke left. She could've been the character to stand out but then again this is why so many people dis-like Kishi. He doesn't do much character improvement on the fems. I think personally Naruto like many shounen needed a token girl, and so there was Sakura Haruno.

gtw1983
10-12-2008, 06:30 PM
1: Because she can be a real bitch

2: because next to Naruto and Sasuke her fighting style is just plain boring

Those are my reasons.

Breeze
10-12-2008, 07:25 PM
I don't like her personality, her thuggish fighting style thats mostly just chakra enforced punches without much speed, her early sasuke fangirlism, her hair cut, her looks, her attitude, her treatment of Naruto and her treatment of Ino. There is more. Need I go on?

well that pretty much summed up what i was going to say.


I do like her a bit more in part 2 then in part 1.

YRPFantasy
10-12-2008, 08:06 PM
NaruHina fans are threaten by her close relationship to Naruto.
SasuKarin fans are threathen by her close relationship to Sasuke.
Her abusive attitude to Naruto.
Her past treatment to Lee.
She broke up her friendship with Ino.
Her "manly" features.
"Pink is ugly".
Comparing her to Hinata, Ino, Karin, etc.

Me? I don't hate her really, just the arguements to make her look perfect when she's clearly not.

Rainney
10-13-2008, 02:38 PM
Sasutards hate her.
NaruSasutards hate her.
Yaoifreaks hate her.

It's not that she's a bad character. It's that a lot of the fandom likes something that Sakura, in their opinion, opposes. Yeah, it's stupid. But that's how it will always be.

Although there are a LOT of Sakura fans. So just ignore the biased people who hate her because of their favorite characters or favorite pairings. :amuse

There's always a few people who actually have a good reason. But most I've met are one or more of the above. :argh

The-Phat-Kat
10-13-2008, 04:07 PM
Sasutards hate her.
NaruSasutards hate her.
Yaoifreaks hate her.

It's not that she's a bad character. It's that a lot of the fandom likes something that Sakura, in their opinion, opposes. Yeah, it's stupid. But that's how it will always be.

Although there are a LOT of Sakura fans. So just ignore the biased people who hate her because of their favorite characters or favorite pairings. :amuse

There's always a few people who actually have a good reason. But most I've met are one or more of the above. :argh

I dont dis-like her because of your reasons. But, because kishi made a character that does not have good development and unfortunatly she has a shity mean streak.

izzyisozaki
10-13-2008, 10:17 PM
Sasutards hate her.
NaruSasutards hate her.
Yaoifreaks hate her.

It's not that she's a bad character. It's that a lot of the fandom likes something that Sakura, in their opinion, opposes. Yeah, it's stupid. But that's how it will always be.

Although there are a LOT of Sakura fans. So just ignore the biased people who hate her because of their favorite characters or favorite pairings. :amuse

There's always a few people who actually have a good reason. But most I've met are one or more of the above. :argh

If I had ever disliked her it was merely for her irrational violence, sheep-like fangirl, and stuck-up attitude. Not cos I liked SasuNaru, which I liked way after her appearance. Plus, not totally liking Sakura doesn't mean necessarily hating her for SRS. I care about Sakura just as much as I do Naruto and Sasuke, but I am not a fan of her character.

Mιch
10-14-2008, 02:47 PM
I don't hate Sakura. But yes, if soon she ends to Sasuke.

I really hated Sakura soooo much because of how she treats Naruto in part 1... I think of her as a fucking little suckker girl and so useless, needs everyone to protect here, dirt positions in missions just watching the whole fight doing nothing, and i see her a lot like a traitor and her duty in the world is to flirt and cry...

But when Sasuke left them... She changed so much. Appreciating Naruto everytime and learned to fight for herself.. Also when I saw her new incredible power in Shippuuden.. It started my addiction...

TrueSalvation
10-14-2008, 03:15 PM
Never liked her in part 1. I think Kishimoto was just unsure of what to do with her character so he made her a filler female character that had a connection with the two main boys of the series in part 1. In part 2 I think he finally decided to use the tsundere archetype which is very popular in Shounen and Japanese culture. He gave her good abilities and her personality drastically changed. Now I personally love the tsundere archetype and enjoy series that have main female leads who are tsunderes. However, in Sakura's case I just feel as if she still has an attitude problem (especially with her behavior towards Naruto on many occasions such as the instance with Jiraiya's death which I felt reflected badly on her part) and can be very petty/insensitive at times. Maybe Kishimoto has done this on purpose since he will do something later on in the manga that will cause her to develop more and create a change in personality (she is after all still only 15 and growing up) that makes her reflect on her behavior and attitude and realize she has to change in that area. Personally I'm ambivalent to her as Kishimoto has written no real goal or aspiration for her character to make me interested in her development.

.:WokeN:.
10-16-2008, 07:22 AM
She's supposed to be one of the main characters, but is just another female fail. In part 1 she's been a useless fangirl. In part 2 it became better, but she still hasn't shown enough to cease the hate against her.

zuul
10-16-2008, 07:52 AM
However, in Sakura's case I just feel as if she still has an attitude problem (especially with her behavior towards Naruto on many occasions such as the instance with Jiraiya's death which I felt reflected badly on her part) and can be very petty/insensitive at times.

Actually I think Sakura was right. Naruto was really acting like an egoistical and immature douche bag. I'm sorry but when my grandparents died I didn't act as an ass to anyone. Grieving is not an excuse, particularly since Tsunade was probably more hurted than Naruto by Jiraya's death.
There are only 2 scenes I like Sakura in part 2, this one and the yaoi-no-jutsu reaction.
Her patronizing attitude is extremelly annoying most of the time though, lecturing people when you're guilty of the same things/not better is lame.

Nejifangirl
10-16-2008, 08:14 AM
I don't like the way she treat Naruto like crap. I don't like the way she gets so work up. I don't like the way she thinks she is so pretty when she is just a plain jane to me. I don't like part 2 outfit.

Kage
10-16-2008, 10:17 AM
Actually I think Sakura was right. Naruto was really acting like an egoistical and immature douche bag. I'm sorry but when my grandparents died I didn't act as an ass to anyone. Grieving is not an excuse, particularly since Tsunade was probably more hurted than Naruto by Jiraya's death.
There are only 2 scenes I like Sakura in part 2, this one and the yaoi-no-jutsu reaction.
Her patronizing attitude is extremelly annoying most of the time though, lecturing people when you're guilty of the same things/not better is lame.

egotistical? hardly. he was acting no different from the way he normally does. he's hurt, confused and angry therefore resulting in his impatience. his behavior reflected such. sakura's attitude wasn't helping any.

i agree grieving shouldn't be an excuse to act like an ass but i couldn't help but think your being a little too hard on him. having no sympathy for anything that pains him at all could be the reason for your onslaught though.

MasterSitsu
10-16-2008, 11:46 AM
I hated it when she super punched Sai just because he said one bad thing about Sasuke, I mean WTF she has the be the most disagreeable character with the worst reason for doing things.

Jeαnne
10-16-2008, 11:46 AM
i dont like her at all D:

Nadini
10-16-2008, 11:49 AM
the combat boots obviously :dupe she's packing a nice pair of legs :pek

some people like her because of her clan symbol on her back makes her a good practice target :zaru

Tobirama
10-16-2008, 11:53 AM
She has a monstrously horrible personality and repellant character.

Jeαnne
10-16-2008, 12:02 PM
i hope that sakura will die D:

Yαriko
10-16-2008, 12:04 PM
i hope that sakura will die D:

many haters hope this

but I doubt Kishi will ever kill her:LOS

neji1988
10-16-2008, 12:04 PM
well imo. I'll compare her with her teacher Tsunade

Appearance - Sakura's Flat

Skills - Sakura's Flat

Taijutsu - Still Flat

Genjutsu - She's Still Flat!!

Conclusion - Learn From Tsunde how to grow a pair with medical plastic jutsu

Nefertiti
10-16-2008, 05:37 PM
well imo. I'll compare her with her teacher Tsunade

Appearance - Sakura's Flat

Skills - Sakura's Flat

Taijutsu - Still Flat

Genjutsu - She's Still Flat!!

Conclusion - Learn From Tsunde how to grow a pair with medical plastic jutsu

What shallowness you have.

The-Phat-Kat
10-16-2008, 08:20 PM
What shallowness you have.

He sounds like a boy i mean come on it's a shounen manga for gods sakes. Kishi could've put some kind of meat on that chicken. shounen girls= big tits and curvy asses. Sakura does not apply to this.

Nefertiti
10-16-2008, 08:39 PM
He sounds like a boy i mean come on it's a shounen manga for gods sakes. Kishi could've put some kind of meat on that chicken. shounen girls= big tits and curvy asses. Sakura does not apply to this.

Tits and ass don't define a girl's character, unless the manga intends it to be,so I don't see why people have to hate a character just because she has a lack of tits and ass. To answer your other statement, not all shounen girls have to have TNA, such as Rukia (yet she's considered a main protagonist in Bleach).

I'm sure he didn't intend his post to be serious, and neither was I, no matter how serious I sound. (like this post I'm typing right now)

Fleecy
10-16-2008, 09:00 PM
I used to hate Sakura to the core (could you blame me? Come on, part one Sakura was pathetic until halfway through at least). But now, she's my favorite character in Naruto and pretty much the only reason I put up with the long, dragging rock it has turned into. As a girl, I don't care if she has big breasts or not (though her body and face are nice as they are). I love her growth (most drastic one in Naruto by far) and newfound strength. Haters can kiss my ass because I don't give a damn; I WUV SAKURA. :awesome

MachineCore
10-16-2008, 09:15 PM
I used to hate Sakura to the core (could you blame me? Come on, part one Sakura was pathetic until halfway through at least). But now, she's my favorite character in Naruto and pretty much the only reason I put up with the long, dragging rock it has turned into. As a girl, I don't care if she has big breasts or not (though her body and face are nice as they are). I love her growth (most drastic one in Naruto by far) and newfound strength. Haters can kiss my ass because I don't give a damn; I WUV SAKURA. :awesome

THANK YOU! Sombody else who thinks the sakura hate is kinda retarded!

Zookini
10-17-2008, 08:53 AM
I never really liked Sakura in part 1 because she wwas like a decorating anime and in Part 2....I'm just not interested in her character:quite

Rashman
10-17-2008, 09:20 AM
Why did i hate her? Her personality/behavior was just awful. =/


She is more mature now in part two and my dislike for her has reduced drastically. She still needs to work on her personality/behavior though. :pek

The only thing that makes me hate her now from time to time are sakuratards. Then again, tards in general just plain piss me off. :imslow

neji1988
10-17-2008, 09:33 AM
Tits and ass don't define a girl's character, unless the manga intends it to be,so I don't see why people have to hate a character just because she has a lack of tits and ass. To answer your other statement, not all shounen girls have to have TNA, such as Rukia (yet she's considered a main protagonist in Bleach).

I'm sure he didn't intend his post to be serious, and neither was I, no matter how serious I sound. (like this post I'm typing right now)

Ahem!! i'm not saying that just becos i'm a guy, PLUS i happen to like Rukia + C.C and both girls dont have big tits. their more realistic. but anyway on to the normal subject why i said that

its really simple really, i mean shes studying under tsunade and its kinda obvious that she tries to be as much as tsunade as she can and her not having big tits has 1 thing to do with it. the other reason why i personally dont like her is that.....shes tooo whiney i mean, she keeps complaining "Oh i dont have enough strength to help naruto and sasuke, i'm so useless, i need to train" girl if honestly u cant train and be confident with urself in the past 3 years when naruto and sasuke are training like hell, u might as well give up and do some other things, i mean prove me wrong but she's the most whiney Female character in naruto

Revy
10-17-2008, 11:51 AM
:facepalm:apathy

Nesha
10-17-2008, 02:11 PM
I never liked her in neither Parts 1 or 2. Simple as that. :hmpf

Plus it's fun pissing off Sakura fans because they tend to get mad at those who hate their favorite character... :awesome

...but hypocritically enough...it's okay to hate one of their hated characters...like Sasuke! :zaru

Plus, Sakura's NOT a Good Friend! (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=390273)

Emily
10-17-2008, 02:35 PM
Because she was so annoying in the part one. :awesome

I like her now though.

Yαriko
10-17-2008, 04:22 PM
I never liked her in neither Parts 1 or 2. Simple as that. :hmpf

Plus it's fun pissing off Sakura fans because they tend to get mad at those who hate their favorite character... :awesome

...but hypocritically enough...it's okay to hate one of their hated characters...like Sasuke! :zaru

Plus, Sakura's NOT a Good Friend! (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=390273)

well not all of them get pissed:awesome

I kinda like those little things...is funny to see how they bash and etc:LOS

Mitarashi Anko
10-17-2008, 04:53 PM
They're all jealous of Saku-chan :zaru

The girl's totally electric. Everything about her. She's a living drug with pink hair and an awesome smile. And she kicks ass. She might have been lame in the first part, but she was essentially holding herself back by being so moonstruck over Sasuke. Now it's her turn to grow, and her strength is going to explode into life faster than anybody else's because of that will of hers.

And ffs, who cares that she has a small chest. Cup size is the right size. There's a market for loli boobs anyway these days. Plus, more than a handful's a waste.

Dangerboy
10-17-2008, 06:23 PM
Really think they just wrote her that way, but there would be no real loss if she was not in the show at all. Unlike the ones I would rather see "like Anko" who is no where to be found.

Kage
10-18-2008, 03:53 AM
THANK YOU! Sombody else who thinks the sakura hate is kinda retarded!

yes because everyone should love her even when she's being patronizing, hypocritical and mean for no good reason! it's just retarded to think otherwise :hmpf
don't mean to put words in your mouth but thats seriously what that implies to me :oh

azn_fan_gurl
10-18-2008, 09:37 AM
She is just nothing special. She cries, she scolds, she stands back. What's the point of having her there? She's not as important to the plot as Naruto or Sasuke. The most useful thing about her is healing, and people just blow things way out of proportion.

There's simply nothing unique about her. I could point out a hundred other girls like her in shounen manga. I'm tired of the generic Tsundere type. So sue me.

They're all jealous of Saku-chan :zaru

Yes, we all wish that we could be abusive hypocrites all the time and get absolutely no repercussions. :awesome

zombietwins
10-18-2008, 09:44 AM
I didn't really like her up until she cut her hair; once she goes through that change, she gets a lot more likable - like her caring for Lee, being nicer to Naruto, asking Tsunade to become her teacher... Generally becoming stronger and more useful.

She's smart, I think she's pretty (which, I guess, everyone sees differently), she's hella strong and overall a balanced character, unlike for example Sasuke. She's very human, and that's what I like about her.

The only thing I don't like about her is her crush on Sasuke - although I loved when she punched Sai for insulting him. Sneaky, Sakura.

MachineCore
10-18-2008, 10:26 AM
yes because everyone should love her even when she's being patronizing, hypocritical and mean for no good reason! it's just retarded to think otherwise :hmpf
don't mean to put words in your mouth but thats seriously what that implies to me :oh

Actualy i was talking about how it's kind of retarded to project so much onto a character that you begin to hate her. I have a deep and real hate for Sasuke. As a person i honestly think he's about as close to scum as you can get. But i would never want to read Naruto without him. As a written character he's flawless and jaw droppingly good to read.

That's kind of what i am getting at. Hating Sakura because you think she's badly written or doesn't have a lot of character potential makes sence.

Hating her because you react to her like a real person, saying she's abusive and violent, when really all these traits can be applied to literaly hundreds of anime and manga females just comes across as saying a lot more about your own issues than it does about having a well thought out oppinion on Sakura.

The fact that she is patronising and hypocritical while at the same time being a character i can empathise with is proof of a good character for me. Sure in real life i would want to strangle her and bury her under a compost heap at full moon. But that doesn't stop me wanting to read about her and thinking 'she's great.'

The fact that she isn't the typical anime busty bombshell helps as well. She has flaws shes not so utterly gorgeous that everybody falls for her, she has temper tantrums she can be hypocritical and selfish. But she can also be a very kind, sweet and funny character. All of this is much closer to real life than some kind of blonde bimbo with a swimsuit model body and the kind of fighting skills that would match Naruto and Sasuke.

Just thinking about her fighting skills why would you want her to match them? Those two are supposed to be exceptional Ninja. Sakura is the control she's the one who cant be as powerful as them and really why would you want her to be?

If we had her being flawlessly gorgeous with a sweetness and light personality coupled with enough power to bend Sasuke over her knee and give him a spanking would lead down the dreaded path of Mary Sueism! The fact that people are having these reactions to her seems like proof to me that shes a good piece of work and a beliveable character far better than some of the ideas i've heard for what i dubbed 'Magical pretty super Sakura big tits!'

SwirlyUchihaFan
10-18-2008, 12:31 PM
That's kind of what i am getting at. Hating Sakura because you think she's badly written or doesn't have a lot of character potential makes sence.
She's supposed to be not-liked. Kishimoto said himself that she's not cute, she pursues a selfish love... She's only there to create the triangle between Sasuke and Naruto.

Everyone always says "Oh, but Sakura's a main character."
Newsflash: Just because she's in team 7 does not make her a main character. She hardly matters to the plot at all.

The first main character is Naruto (obviously :P) and the second is Sasuke- because he is the reason for the series, now.
Without Sakura, the series would be better, because she's useless, doesn't do much, and just cries a lot. But admittedly, it wouldn't be as interesting- because everyone needs a character to hate, and someone to watch get crushed down. Haha.

Seto Kaiba
10-18-2008, 12:50 PM
She's supposed to be not-liked. Kishimoto said himself that she's not cute, she pursues a selfish love... She's only there to create the triangle between Sasuke and Naruto.

You're only considering Part I, yes he said she was meant to be disliked early on, but not throughout the entire story.

Inuhanyou
10-18-2008, 01:05 PM
@Swirly - It was supposed to show her growth....she was deliberately intended to be disliked in part 1 to emphasize bouncing back from adversity and her weakness, and the major flaws she had going against her

Sakura becoming as strong and capable as she has is testament to that

lordsome
10-18-2008, 01:05 PM
She was Sasuke's Wench in part one and treated Naruto like the plague and now that Sasuke's left pretends to act like nothing ever happened.

MachineCore
10-18-2008, 01:10 PM
She's supposed to be not-liked. Kishimoto said himself that she's not cute, she pursues a selfish love... She's only there to create the triangle between Sasuke and Naruto.

Everyone always says "Oh, but Sakura's a main character."
Newsflash: Just because she's in team 7 does not make her a main character. She hardly matters to the plot at all.

The first main character is Naruto (obviously :P) and the second is Sasuke- because he is the reason for the series, now.
Without Sakura, the series would be better, because she's useless, doesn't do much, and just cries a lot. But admittedly, it wouldn't be as interesting- because everyone needs a character to hate, and someone to watch get crushed down. Haha.

Methinks your outlook may be a bit biased considering your favourite pairing and the vehemence with which you support it.

Levithian
10-18-2008, 01:12 PM
She was Sasuke's Wench in part one and treated Naruto like the plague and now that Sasuke's left pretends to act like nothing ever happened.

She still treats Naruto badly...and she's loyal to Sasuke's memory.

lordsome
10-18-2008, 01:15 PM
Lol, most opinions are biased here, hell its almost impossible not to be, I for one fucking hate Sakura. By the way, isn't the idea of this thread to get your opinion of why Sakura is hated across?

She still treats Naruto badly...and she's loyal to Sasuke's memory.
Point taken.

MachineCore
10-18-2008, 01:19 PM
Lol, most opinions are biased here, hell its almost impossible not to be, I for one fucking hate Sakura. By the way, isn't the idea of this thread to get your opinion of why Sakura is hated across?


Point taken.

Your right it is. I just cant stand to let Fangirly statements go unchallenged call me a complete bastard but i just can't help myself :P

Levithian
10-18-2008, 01:19 PM
Lol, most opinions are biased here, hell its almost impossible not to be, I for one fucking hate Sakura. By the way, isn't the idea of this thread to get your opinion of why Sakura is hated across?


Point taken.

Yeah thats what this thread is here for, Sakura still sucks in part two, just in more ways.:)

lordsome
10-18-2008, 01:23 PM
Your right it is. I just cant stand to let Fangirly statements go unchallenged call me a complete bastard but i just can't help myself :P

I am actually interested in your standing in this thread.

Revy
10-18-2008, 01:23 PM
This is delicious.

Tobi-kun01
10-18-2008, 01:24 PM
There are many reasons why I don't like her. For example, she only doesn't hate Naruto anymore because Sasuke isn't there. Why wasn't she like that to him when Sasuke was still there? I think that she just uses Naruto so that she can have Sasuke back. I'm sure that she will try to get Naruto if she cannot have Sasuke and that would be really cheap. :facepalm
Sakura's an unfaithful character. She was even jealous of Sai and Ino for a brief moment. She's an attention whore who always wants to get complimented and worshipped by others.

zuul
10-18-2008, 01:26 PM
She's supposed to be not-liked. Kishimoto said himself that she's not cute, she pursues a selfish love... She's only there to create the triangle between Sasuke and Naruto.

Everyone always says "Oh, but Sakura's a main character."
Newsflash: Just because she's in team 7 does not make her a main character. She hardly matters to the plot at all.

The first main character is Naruto (obviously :P) and the second is Sasuke- because he is the reason for the series, now.
Without Sakura, the series would be better, because she's useless, doesn't do much, and just cries a lot. But admittedly, it wouldn't be as interesting- because everyone needs a character to hate, and someone to watch get crushed down. Haha.

She only exists to hide the yaoiness between Naruto and Sasuke, to give females something to relate to, and to explain things for the dumb readers.

other than that the panel hog is useless.

But there is shitloads of abusing useless females in shonen anyway for them not to look like shonen-ai.

Levithian
10-18-2008, 01:28 PM
This is delicious.

Lex, I'm sure everyone wants to know why you hate Sakura, do tell.

lordsome
10-18-2008, 01:35 PM
[QUOTE=zuul;19421224]She only exists to hide the yaoiness between Naruto and Sasuke, to give females something to relate to, and to explain things for the dumb readers.[QUOTE]

You know, I never really thought of it that way.:P

MachineCore
10-18-2008, 01:38 PM
I am actually interested in your standing in this thread.

My standing? Well i like her. Shes not my favourite female character in the series that has to go to Anko. I would love to see her end up with Naruto mainly because she would be good for him and would be there to smack him back into line when he does somthing weird (hey it worked for me with my fiance.) But if she doesn't thats cool too. So long as both characters end up having good pay off endings that will suit me just fine. So i don't think i can be described as a Sakura fanboy as somtimes she drives me up the wall too.

But the constant Sakura hate bugs me no end. She's constantly portrayed as this monster that I just don't see. Maybe it's because I'm a jaded git but i've seen way more abusive and unlikeable characters than Sakura (Rukia).

To be honest i expected to find a few well thought out reasons for hating the character to the degree that she is. I got a few but a lot of the reasons nearly left me smacking my head in amazement.

SammyKat
10-18-2008, 01:40 PM
No one gives a shit

Overrationalize it all you want in a feeble attempt to defend your shitty pairing, you don't behave like that with people you're supposed to love (I'm not talking about romantic love, get off my dick pairingtards thanks in advance) when they're in grief

This is common decency, but apparently Sakura can wipe her ass with it and always have perfectly good reasons to do so

OK, 1, I hardly call that as providing "evidence" that they're meant to be in love, that was you misconstruing the person's post, but you've already been corrected on that so I'll move on. Those pages were hardly an example of her being insensitive to his feelings. To me, they were the words and actions of someone who understands what her friend is going through but still ackonowledging that his actions are irational and by coming off and telling people invovled in a department that he knows very little about would just be pointless and more likely to waste time by kicking up a stink cos he didn't think that they were working fast enough. I'm engaged, I have been for nearly four years now and I also consider my partner to be my best friend but if we were in the same sort of situation, I would have reacted the same way. Also, Sakura herself would be upset or at least shocked by Jiraiya's death so she herself wouldn't be as calm as she could have been. But I guess that's my years of life experience talking there. Sorry, I know that that's an old post but it kinda rubs me the wrong way when a character is pciked on because the reader is projecting an unrealistic view of actualy human behaviour onto a character.

Personally, while I can't agree with most of the subjective reasons for hating Sakura, I'd like to think that there are enough people who can put aside their subjective and projective caps aside for a second and appreciate that as a character she has been written extremely well to amass this amount of polar-opposite reactions to her. It tells me that Kishimoto has written a well-balanced character with strengths and weaknesses that can result in the reader either disliking her for her faults or liking her despite her faults. In that sense, she's a very human character. I mean come on, everyone here be honest - do you think you're perfect? Chances are, no. Do you think everyone you encounter likes you? Again, chances are, no. No one's perfect and everyone will have a trait that will make people dislike or even hate us - yes they may seem like stupid reasons but they exist. I don't think I've made a lot of sense here but hopefully some people will take the gist and not misinterpret it as an insult. Merely an evaluation of how realistic a fictional character has been written and how, surprisingly, she's quite a relatable character, whether you like her, love her or hate her. Either way, same as MachineCore said about Sasuke (an opinion I wholly agree with), love her or hate her, Naruto wouldn't really be the same without Sakura.

I would love to see her end up with Naruto mainly because she would be good for him and would be there to smack him back into line when he does somthing weird (hey it worked for me with my fiance.)
And look how much lovely you are now. :P Not that you weren't lovely before, you're just nicer to more people than when we met.

lordsome
10-18-2008, 01:51 PM
OK, 1, I hardly call that as providing "evidence" that they're meant to be in love, that was you misconstruing the person's post, but you've already been corrected on that so I'll move on. Those pages were hardly an example of her being insensitive to his feelings. To me, they were the words and actions of someone who understands what her friend is going through but still ackonowledging that his actions are irational and by coming off and telling people invovled in a department that he knows very little about would just be pointless and more likely to waste time by kicking up a stink cos he didn't think that they were working fast enough. I'm engaged, I have been for nearly four years now and I also consider my partner to be my best friend but if we were in the same sort of situation, I would have reacted the same way. Also, Sakura herself would be upset or at least shocked by Jiraiya's death so she herself wouldn't be as calm as she could have been. But I guess that's my years of life experience talking there. Sorry, I know that that's an old post but it kinda rubs me the wrong way when a character is pciked on because the reader is projecting an unrealistic view of actualy human behaviour onto a character.

Personally, while I can't agree with most of the subjective reasons for hating Sakura, I'd like to think that there are enough people who can put aside their subjective and projective caps aside for a second and appreciate that as a character she has been written extremely well to amass this amount of polar-opposite reactions to her. It tells me that Kishimoto has written a well-balanced character with strengths and weaknesses that can result in the reader either disliking her for her faults or liking her despite her faults. In that sense, she's a very human character. I mean come on, everyone here be honest - do you think you're perfect? Chances are, no. Do you think everyone you encounter likes you? Again, chances are, no. No one's perfect and everyone will have a trait that will make people dislike or even hate us - yes they may seem like stupid reasons but they exist. I don't think I've made a lot of sense here but hopefully some people will take the gist and not misinterpret it as an insult. Merely an evaluation of how realistic a fictional character has been written and how, surprisingly, she's quite a relatable character, whether you like her, love her or hate her. Either way, same as MachineCore said about Sasuke (an opinion I wholly agree with), love her or hate her, Naruto wouldn't really be the same without Sakura.


And look how much lovely you are now. :P Not that you weren't lovely before, you're just nicer to more people than when we met.

One word... Whoa!

MachineCore
10-18-2008, 01:55 PM
And look how much lovely you are now. :P Not that you weren't lovely before, you're just nicer to more people than when we met.

For the record I AM NOT LOVELY!

dedaralover
10-18-2008, 02:04 PM
she is hated because she is a stupid sasuke fangirl and is very anoying :mad

SwirlyUchihaFan
10-18-2008, 03:18 PM
Methinks your outlook may be a bit biased considering your favourite pairing and the vehemence with which you support it.

Methinks you need to pull the stick out of your ass a bit, and understand that my favourite pairing does not make me biased towards characters, and I hated Sakura before I liked SasuNaruSasu. :pleased



.....
No offense.

MachineCore
10-18-2008, 03:27 PM
Methinks you need to pull the stick out of your ass a bit, and understand that my favourite pairing does not make me biased towards characters, and I hated Sakura before I liked SasuNaruSasu. :pleased

Please. Most of your posts are about SasuNaru. Sakura is the primary threat to that pairing either way its no surprise you don't like her. Not to mention one of your posts about Sakura in another thread was just a jumbled bunch of insults towards her. Making it sounds like you don't have an oppinion, merely a vendetta against the character.

SwirlyUchihaFan
10-18-2008, 03:30 PM
Please. Most of your posts are about SasuNaru. Sakura is the primary threat to that pairing either way its no surprise you don't like her.
That makes no difference to me at all.
I just don't like Sakura.
I don't even see her as a 'threat' to the pairing. :lmao

I hated her before I liked SasuNaru- because she is the epitome of pathetic teenage girl, in part one.

That hate has lasted into part two, because of her constant abuse of Naruto, and her useless-ness, which she still clings to, like a baby to a safety blanket. She's annoying- still.

Louchan
10-18-2008, 03:53 PM
Geez, this thread needs to be locked already. :huh
It's just a giant flame fest and fighting ground between pro and anti-Sakura fans by now.

halfhearted
10-18-2008, 03:54 PM
EDIT: The OP just edited their post to make debating people's opinions fair game. This puts this thread on thinner ice as it exacerbates what was already a devolving situation. So, please know that while the below may not apply any longer, flamebaiting and personal attacks will be dealt with more harshly from this point on.

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As a note, anymore hardcore defenses of Sakura contesting posts which give their reasons for why they hate her will be considered off-topic and deleted as they have nothing to do with the original question and are dragging this thread farther and farther away from it's purpose which was to find out why people who disliked her do dislike her or for those who don't to propose possibilities. If worse comes to worse, the subject as a whole will be locked.

Contesting her ability and worth as a character directly can be done in one of the innumerable threads that have already been made in the subject.

Personally, while I can't agree with most of the subjective reasons for hating Sakura, I'd like to think that there are enough people who can put aside their subjective and projective caps aside for a second and appreciate that as a character she has been written extremely well to amass this amount of polar-opposite reactions to her.

But, this thread isn't about objectively determining the quality of Sakura as a character; it's for asking people why and trying to figure out why she has a large number of fans that greatly dislike her. In other words, it's almost entirely for people to subjectively post why they, personally, do not like her. Just because someone may be able to see why a character is quality from an unbiased standpoint, doesn't mean that they can't have irrational or non-rational reasons for finding her distasteful. And all of the railing against users who say they hate Sakura (whether it be because she's gets in the way of a particular pairing or because of her part 1 attitude or whatever) is just going against the actual purpose of the thread.

Also, in case any Sakura fans are worried about this ruling coming from an unfair standpoint, I am one of those who enjoy Sakura to the point of having even written a complimentary essay on her in the past.

nyo_nyo43
10-18-2008, 03:55 PM
I think i really dislike her because of her being over-the-top annoying and her rabid obsession over sasuke.
It's true that she has matured alot since then, though.

SwirlyUchihaFan
10-18-2008, 04:44 PM
Another reason I don't like her because of the way she ditched Ino (who I don't like much either, by the way, before you say that my like for one character makes me biased over another). Ino was her best friend- and the first person to care for her, defend her, and give her self-esteem.

And Sakura just goes:
"Ino, we can't be friends anymore, because I want Sasuke too."

How hurt did Ino look because of that?
Only a bitch would do that to their best friend- and Sakura went ahead and did it.

She constantly abuses Naruto- for no good reason. I've had this done to me by a friend in the past, and eventually it stops being funny.

Sakura claims to be more useful in part two. I don't see that she's done anything useful unaided. 'She' defeated Sasori, apparently... with Grandma Chiyo helping her.. physically.

She 'rushed to help Naruto' when he went KN4, but she didn't do it very well. Instead of thinking rationally about how she could help, she ran up to him, got bitch-slapped, and fell to the ground unconscious.

BIG help, Sakura.
*thumbs up*

E
10-18-2008, 04:45 PM
the pink bush :pimp

SammyKat
10-18-2008, 08:08 PM
Another reason I don't like her because of the way she ditched Ino (who I don't like much either, by the way, before you say that my like for one character makes me biased over another). Ino was her best friend- and the first person to care for her, defend her, and give her self-esteem.

And Sakura just goes:
"Ino, we can't be friends anymore, because I want Sasuke too."

How hurt did Ino look because of that?
Only a bitch would do that to their best friend- and Sakura went ahead and did it.

She constantly abuses Naruto- for no good reason. I've had this done to me by a friend in the past, and eventually it stops being funny.

Sakura claims to be more useful in part two. I don't see that she's done anything useful unaided. 'She' defeated Sasori, apparently... with Grandma Chiyo helping her.. physically.

She 'rushed to help Naruto' when he went KN4, but she didn't do it very well. Instead of thinking rationally about how she could help, she ran up to him, got bitch-slapped, and fell to the ground unconscious.

BIG help, Sakura.
*thumbs up*

All good and interesting points. Saying that her "abusing" Naruto cos of your personal experience proves my projection point - nowt wrong with that, we all do it to one extent - I just find it interesting. You've certainly given a better argument here, although do think saying that Chiyo helped her defeat Sasori does take away from how much she had changed since part one - that was something that she could have never done even with Chiyo's help before.

One thing I would question is referring to her as a bitch when she told Ino that they couldn't be friends anymore cos of Sasuke - mainly cos as far as I'm aware, she was only, what? 10 at most? And even with fictional characters I find referring to a kid that age as a bitch a bit harsh. Irritating, annoying, snot-nosed little brat, yes but bitch seems a bit much. Besides, at that ages, kids are unkind and fall out for stupid reasons and Sakura and Ino did make up later on.

Apart from that, I totally see why these little things would cause you to dislike her. And I always say it's interesting to see the other point of view when it's actually wrapped up in a logical argument where the reasons can be explained.

TatsuBon
10-19-2008, 07:18 AM
because she's ugly

Yαriko
10-19-2008, 07:20 AM
because she's ugly

extremly good argument, totally agree, I'm spechless

TatsuBon
10-19-2008, 07:22 AM
it's the perfect word isn't yariko? :zaru
nothing compares

Yαriko
10-19-2008, 08:05 AM
it's the perfect word isn't yariko? :zaru
nothing compares

of course...I couldn't agree more:zaru

/sarcasm

TatsuBon
10-19-2008, 08:13 AM
lol of course i know you're being sarcastic :lmao
you have my compliments on it, i rate it...10/10

Yαriko
10-19-2008, 08:22 AM
well it happened once to me, I was talking like this with someone and thought I was being serious, so that's why:edu

why thank you:quite

TatsuBon
10-19-2008, 08:25 AM
don't worry, by the first post i knew it was sarcasm i just chose to be sarcastic back :zaru

lol that person is a n00b then :hehee

Nightmare
10-19-2008, 09:54 AM
Her overall attitude sucks :hmm?

and i don't find bitches appealing :edu

Lucrecia
10-19-2008, 12:03 PM
She's not my favourite character but I like her :edu

SwirlyUchihaFan
10-19-2008, 05:27 PM
although do think saying that Chiyo helped her defeat Sasori does take away from how much she had changed since part one - that was something that she could have never done even with Chiyo's help before.

One thing I would question is referring to her as a bitch when she told Ino that they couldn't be friends anymore cos of Sasuke - mainly cos as far as I'm aware, she was only, what? 10 at most? And even with fictional characters I find referring to a kid that age as a bitch a bit harsh. Irritating, annoying, snot-nosed little brat, yes but bitch seems a bit much. Besides, at that ages, kids are unkind and fall out for stupid reasons and Sakura and Ino did make up later on.
A good point- she never would have been able to work with Chiyo in part one.
I still think that the Sakura Vs Sasori fight ended up the wrong way. Sasori was like... amazing. He defeated the greatest Kazekage ever- and then got killed by some teenage girl (who is only slightly more useful in part two) being controlled by his ancient grandma. It's depressing. D=

Haha, I'm nowhere near as mean as Sakura was/is. And I never, ever was. I would never choose a guy over a friend- and I never will. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

Dangerboy
10-20-2008, 05:37 PM
I actually like Sakura... I wish that Kishimoto would make her more like Kenny in SouthPark... The kid who gets killed every episode.

Red Skull
10-20-2008, 05:41 PM
She has no boobs. Enough reason for me :C

MasterSitsu
10-20-2008, 10:26 PM
She has no boobs. Enough reason for me :C
Boobs do seem to make the character.

The-Phat-Kat
05-08-2009, 09:42 PM
She only exists to hide the yaoiness between Naruto and Sasuke, to give females something to relate to, and to explain things for the dumb readers.

other than that the panel hog is useless.

But there is shitloads of abusing useless females in shonen anyway for them not to look like shonen-ai.

Agreed, said the phat kat but there's more! I wonder, really when will it take Sasuke to not give a fuck and jus kill sakura. I don't know why not trying to be biased but, i see KM killing sakura off i mean he did kill Kakashi and he was a lot better of a character than Sakura. Besides Cartoonnetwork doesnt even show shippuned so it can't get booted for being gay. If i was to be shown it would be shown on Adult swim.

Peter
05-08-2009, 09:46 PM
This has basically turned into a Sakura bashing thread. :zaru

Naruku
05-08-2009, 09:49 PM
1. pink hair
2. hypocrisy
3. ugly face
4. lack of boobs
5. condescension
6. annoying
7. self-centred


the list goes on

sweets
05-08-2009, 09:52 PM
She only exists to hide the yaoiness between Naruto and Sasuke, to give females something to relate to, and to explain things for the dumb readers.

other than that the panel hog is useless.

But there is shitloads of abusing useless females in shonen anyway for them not to look like shonen-ai.

:lmao^^

But yeah, some fans hate Sakura for superficial reasons such as pairings (NaruHina/SasuNaru) or the fact that they can't get over her Part I character; or her character design-( lack of boobies and masculine features OR because of her lack of relevance to the storyline, her relationships with the other characters, or her overall personality such as her uprise of bitter/bitchyness whenever she's irritated, some people just don't prefer bipolar yet usually loud girls. Especially ones who are hyprocritical. It could also be due to the fans overestimating her with little things over only a half of a feat in the entire manga [saying that Chiyo helped paved the way] She's a usual girl with no background or relevance and she's supposedly a main character due to her relationship with the two main boys. There are many reasons to hate her- hell there's many reasons to hate many characters [however unnessicary and sad it gets]but there's also some reasons to like/love her and I guess you could take most these facts as reasons why I dislike her :zaru

Narukka
05-08-2009, 09:54 PM
I use to hate her in first part. I could not stand her "Sasuke-kun" as the only words she said. Now I just dislike her. She annoys me for treat Naruto as crap.

The-Phat-Kat
05-08-2009, 09:58 PM
:lmao^^

But yeah, some fans hate Sakura for superficial reasons such as pairings (NaruHina/SasuNaru) or the fact that they can't get over her Part I character; or her character design-( lack of boobies and masculine features OR because of her lack of relevance to the storyline, her relationships with the other characters, or her overall personality such as her uprise of bitter/bitchyness whenever she's irritated, some people just don't prefer bipolar yet usually loud girls. Especially ones who are hyprocritical. It could also be due to the fans overestimating her with little things over only a half of a feat in the entire manga [saying that Chiyo helped paved the way] She's a usual girl with no background or relevance and she's supposedly a main character due to her relationship with the two main boys. There are many reasons to hate her- hell there's many reasons to hate many characters [however unnessicary and sad it gets]but there's also some reasons to like/love her and I guess you could take most these facts as reasons why I dislike her :zaru
Okay but still if you really look at Sakura isn't a main character. She just happends to be in the same age group which is why she is shown so much. B/c if kakashi was in the same age group i suppose he would seem main character like..

PinkLover
05-08-2009, 09:58 PM
I don't hate her
i like her
she is one of my favorite characters
and there are a lots more people who like her
all my friends like her
i know a lot of people who hate hinata though ( my whole 43 person class)
they think she is really shy
i like sakura because she is outgoing and fun
plus in shippuden she ROCKS

sweets
05-08-2009, 10:03 PM
that's why I said 'supposely' main character; she definitely doesn't fit it. She fits more of the role like Kakashi does; support main character.

biar
05-09-2009, 12:18 AM
Well, she's useless in part1, but becomes useful in part2. I really like her in Part 2

I really like Sakura's personality, her personality is imperfect, but that's what makes her character realistic. Hinata's shy and submissive personality is way too fictional. If I were naruto i'd pick Sakura over Hinata anyday.

UsoppYusukeLuffy
05-09-2009, 12:43 AM
I hate her just cause people says shes the strongest kunoichi when Temeri would own her easily

Also she hits narutoo for retarded ass reasons

Mai
05-09-2009, 03:23 AM
Also she hits narutoo for retarded ass reasons

It's called comedic relief which is common to most animes :quite

Koroshi
05-09-2009, 03:36 AM
Well I guess mostly it's a because of pairings, but I hated her in part 1,
though now she has elevated a bit in my opinion because of her current usefulness.

Tsukasa009
05-09-2009, 03:37 AM
I like how Sakura grew to be much more respectable in Part 2, i didn't really like her in part 1 but she's great now!

HolyHands
05-09-2009, 05:44 AM
Hey another Sakura thread on her importance. Personally I'm not even gonna bother making a unique post since I can just copy paste one of my previous posts on the matter.

Many previous posters are correct in their criticisms about Sakura. The main problem with her is that she is a main character in name only. She is a main because she is part of team 7, but both plot-wise and character-wise she contributes very little to the plot.

I think the biggest issue here is that both Kishi and hardcore Sakura fans keep using the "Sakura is meant to be human/normal" as an excuse for poor writing. Just because a character is human doesn't mean that they can't play a huge role in the plot. In fact, the whole appeal of "normal" characters in fiction is seeing how these seemingly minor people make huge differences in either the overall story or the characters themselves. Unfortunately Sakura doesn't do much of either.

Plot-wise her relevance is practically zero. She has no bloodline, no story, no ties to any major villains, and no villains are all that interested in her. It's made worse due to the fact that Sakura hasn't done much to include herself into the plot. She helped beat Sasori........ and that's it. Sakura becomes a genuine character for one arc then gets immediately shoved back into the background not doing much other than getting knocked out by flying Kabutos, bitchslapping tails, and standing around cheerleading. And when you're writing a good character, you have to make sure that they get development across the entire series, not just give them one arc in the spotlight and that's it. That only works for minor characters or characters about to die.

Now some people might counter this with "It doesn't matter if Sakura is important to the plot. She helps the story by being an emotional anchor for her friends." That sounds like a good argument and all until you realize that Sakura hasn't done much of that either. The Team 7 dynamic revolves around the relationship between Naruto and Sasuke, not Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura. While Sakura might do some minor contributions every so often, Naruto and Sasuke support each other mentally more than Sakura could ever dream to (Does Sasuke even remember Sakura?) There's rarely a time where Sakura truly encourages Naruto to become better that doesn't involve getting herself nearly killed. The ones who inspire Naruto are usually Kakashi, Jiraiya, Iruka, occasionally Shikamaru, and of course Sasuke. The fact that side characters do more for Naruto emotionally than Sakura is incredibly grating.

So where does that leave Sakura? Maybe she supports the other side characters? Nope, we haven't seen that much at all. Maybe she acts as a big sister figure for the other kunoichi? Possibly, but we have yet to see it, and it probably wouldn't make a difference anyway since we all know how Kishi is with females. Maybe Sakura can at least become a unique fighter? Nope, she's just a mini-Tsunade without the perks that Tsunade has such as slug summons, nerve disruption, and shousou taisei.

Overall, Sakura does little for the series. As a main character she is light-years behind Naruto and Sasuke, and even side characters such as Shikamaru are beginning to overtake her. I don't really blame Sakura as much as I blame Kishimoto's insufferable obsession with making sure females never upstage males at any point possible. It's a shame because Sakura is a character with a lot of potential, but unfortunately that potential is only truly realized in fanfiction. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if most Sakura fans visualized Sakura as the fanfiction manifestation rather than the canon Stand-in-the-Background version. To put it simply, Naruto is not the series to read if you're wanting a good female character.

Yαriko
05-09-2009, 05:44 AM
some can understand her epicness

that's why

KawaiiKurochan
05-09-2009, 05:47 AM
Hmm...

I guess because of her fangirly attitude in Part 1...

Ill admit i was a bit annoyed...

But when i saw her in Shippuuden, i loved her more!!

Confetti
05-09-2009, 05:50 AM
So, I take it that most people disliked her for her part 1 self and admire her for her part 2 self.

I liked Sakura back in part 1 where she was herself and had a personality not similar to anybody else of the manga. I know her "Sasuke-kun!" was annoying but in the chuunin exams, she became a better person a person that I would like. Kakashi also believed that Sakura could be a genjutsu type, so I waited for her to get her genjutsu powaz. She then became the apprentice of Tsunade, and who was a medical expert. So I was expected in part II for Sakura to be her same old self with her personality that was hers and not Tsunades. I was also expecting for her to become a genjutsu/medical expert.

But guess what? All that shit was thrown out of the window, I have to say that she was a turd back in part I who didn't train that much at all. Then suddenly she gains smashy smashy from Tsunade and becomes more aggressive and more of a 'Tsunadere'. I was pretty disappointed actually.

Then there was the fight against Sasori, I guess I was impressed that she actually fought for once and wasn't cheering in the backgrounds.

...Then in came the overrating. :pek

After the battle Sakura became the 'strongest' out of the majority of rookie 9. In just one fight that she didn't even solo in she suddenly gets all the hype of being the mightiest and all. She's still getting hyped up about even though she hasn't even been fighting in the recent chapters. Now that she's the strongest 'female' and the best medical ninja, it almost giving her the title of 'mary-sue.'

Where is my flawing Sakura?

(Some of the reasons of why I dislike Sakura, more in mah pocket. :LOS)

Sake
05-09-2009, 05:55 AM
This has basically turned into a Sakura bashing thread. :zaru

No shit. :zaru

Confetti
05-09-2009, 07:12 AM
This? And she looks like a tranvestite.

Theirs one thing that pisses me of about Haruno Sakura, and thats her color theme, pink and red. She's supposed to be about love, yet she acts like a bipolar spoiled bitch.

I don't really care about her colour scheme, I'd still hate her anyways. :LOS

lishiyo
05-09-2009, 07:36 AM
I don't care about her appearance at all, in fact I appreciate her lack of a chest and relatively normal/ athletic figure in comparison to most manga females. I just don't like her as a main heroine since she's not interesting enough and doesn't contribute enough to the story or the themes. Sasuke and Naruto have such distinctive backgrounds and personalities and abilities, along with some of the other side characters like Neji and Gaara, so she seems too bland in comparison. Or let her be a normal girl, but at least have her do something extraordinary as a person.

I also felt Kishi's attempt to portray her growth in Part II was rather clumsy - throughout the whole Sasori fight, he kept having Chiyo and Sasori mention how brave she was and how she wasn't just some normal chick (so what exactly is a normal chick, eh?), when there was no need to state it explicitly. In reality any of the rookies would have shown the same courage and resolve since they're our protagonists and have been willing to risk their lives in the past (eg Kiba, Chouji, even Sakura in the forest etc). It's a bit patronizing and unconvincing and I'd rather have her growth be portrayed more gradually and with some subtlety.

Nadini
05-09-2009, 08:08 AM
"Why is Sakura so hated?"

Because she's popular, and there's also Hinata out there.

Euraj
05-09-2009, 08:12 AM
Suppress the only female with the possibility to be successful.

Nadini
05-09-2009, 08:17 AM
Sakura's popular? IF you say so.:ryoma

go take a leak Jizz.

Morphine
05-09-2009, 08:50 AM
Because she is a worthless character like Hinata.

N120
05-09-2009, 09:11 AM
So while i was nosing around like a nosing thing i noticed that Sakura is the subject of much hate and derision.

WHY!??!??! Shes a good character. So she had a bad crush at the start of the series and was basicaly useless in part one...come to think of it most of the female Rookie 9 was about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

But like i said the only real reason i can find for people disliking her is because she had a schoolgirly crush on mr McBroodypants. Can we really hold that against her i mean virutaly everybody i know regrets their first crush. I know i do even though it was on a fictional character who i ain't gonna name...


So yeh why is there so much Sakura hate around these days?

Anybody who thinks they can contest the reasons people dislike Sakura i would like to hear from you too.

If people hate her for simply having crush on someone then they should be ashamed of themselves, that's not a good enough reason to hate anyone.

Missy
05-09-2009, 10:05 AM
Every character in this manga is hated for one reason or another. Heck, plenty of people are anti-Kushina. :zaru

But I guess Sakura's one of the most hated because:

a) she's supposed one of the main characters, and people don't like that (though I'll definitely admit that pretty much only Sasuke and Naruto are the main characters at this point)

b) her "bitchy and abusive" personality (even though she's hit him like three times in the manga, and Naruto doesn't even mind :facepalm)

c) gets in the way of pairings

d) people prefer a different character to her, and somehow Sakura gets flamed for that because they often compare said different character to Sakura.

e) she's useless, apparently.

f) lack of boobs. But that's mainly the tards, not the real Anti-Sakuras.

g) people can't/don't distinguish Part 1 Sakura from Part 2 Sakura.

But I can't exactly identify all the reasons since I don't hate Sakura.

soulfulfillment
05-09-2009, 10:14 AM
she's a hypocrite
she's a bitch to naruto
at an early age, she broke her friendship with ino for a guy
she's annoying
she's overrated
and she has pink hair

Garrod Ran
05-09-2009, 10:28 AM
Every character in this manga is hated for one reason or another. Heck, plenty of people are anti-Kushina. :zaru

But I guess Sakura's one of the most hated because:

a) she's one of the main characters, and people don't like that
She is not one of the main characters! She is like Akamaru or TonTon with a few extra pic in the manga here and there. She has nothing important to bring to the manga plot at all. Cry more

b) her "bitchy and abusive" personality (even though she's hit him like three times in the manga, and Naruto doesn't even mind :facepalm)
You know if narusaku ever happen then it would be like
http://www.excessmagazine.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/rihanna-chris-brown-300x284.jpg

http://itsguycode.com/images/stories/brown/rihanna-black-eye.jpg

c) gets in the way of pairings
Sasuke?


d) people prefer a different character to her, and somehow Sakura gets flamed for that because they often compare said different character to Sakura.

People prefer better character with actually story to go with it.

e) she's useless, apparently.

Just manga Fact! Village gets attack, get on hands and knees to cry save me.



But I can't exactly identify all the reasons since I don't hate Sakura.

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Nadini
05-09-2009, 10:34 AM
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how about witting something constructive and not those offhanded anti comments that nobody takes seriously?

I'm sorry, you can't, you like Pinata right? :zaru

Garrod Ran
05-09-2009, 10:49 AM
how about witting something constructive and not those offhanded anti comments that nobody takes seriously?

I'm sorry, you can't, you like Pinata right? :zaru

What does Pinata have to do with a sakura thread? But to answers your question yes I do. I like you to nadini :love