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Freija
08-07-2005, 06:43 AM
Lol yeah he did, I corrected myself later on in the post.
I guess I should've deleted that part but I was lazy lol and thought people would see my correction anyway but I guess not lol
sorry bout' that i kinda didn't read through all your post :sad
Oh haha he can? I really don't read much about what people post about their armaments. Well if thats true then yeah... Shinn is at quite a big disadvantage then haha.
And if he still holds his own when he faces Kira with funnels.
Then people cant say Shinn is sucks ass =P
at least I hope people still don't lol.
well i've never said Shinn actually sucked ass, since if he did he would never
1.figure out Kira's weakness
2.be able to use that weakness to defeat him
3.never ever be able to use Destiny to it's full capacity
4.never be able to dodge one of his attacks.
It may sound like I'm trying to make Shinn out as the better pilot, but I'm not lol
I just want to point out that Shinn isn't crap compared to Kira as some may think.
b/c I still see people elsewhere that basically want to say that Shinn should get owned and not be able to put up a fight against Kira.i want him to get owned but not without a good fight, then it would be all boring to watch it.
I feel as if Shinn is very looked down upon =( when I read thigns like that haha.
But its what they think so yeah =P..hopefully there arent anyone of those in this forum =) but its fine if there are..like I said I don't want to debate/argue anymore.
I want to enjoy my last 8 episodes of Destiny.
hehe lets enjoy the last eps together and hope shinn switches side :D
ssouske
08-07-2005, 07:49 AM
Great episode. :laugh
Destiny's Deutron nuclear reactor can run out of juice and freedom's nuclear power is infinite, Do you know why??:huh
I assume Deuterion reactors =Radioisotope electric generator
It's Nuclear material contained in a liquid form. Thermocouples react with the radioactive fuel causing decay and create heat energy to power the gundam. Its smaller than a nuclear reactor, but as the radioactive fuel decay they can gradually run out. It last longer than battery, but will eventually run out. I assume legend and destiny have those.:amuse
Nuclear Jammer canceller= true nuclear reactor.
Uranium-235 bombarded by neutron via control rod. The reaction cause the atom to split and create massive heat which produce energy. Since the process of introducing neutron is controlled by the insert and release of control rod. Collant must be introuduced to help cool the reactor to slow down the fission process. The enrich uranium give off energy little at a time and can last for years until the Uranium is depleated. If massive neutron is introduced to uranium and plutonium than caboom nuclear explosion three mile island and chernoble. :laugh .
Freedom and destiny have those, they are large and highly volitile, but will last for years.
This concludes todays physics/engineering lesson.
wow... after reading this physics+engineering crap, i got a bad headache... ouch... very detailed explanation of powerplants...:amuse reps for you...
Is the ferrari on your avy really going to come out in production? or is it a concept for a new car? and what will it succeed... cause i doubt that will be enzo's successor... i think its going to be the 430's successor...
3rdStrike
08-07-2005, 11:51 AM
42 was a great episode. Loved how Shinn got ticked off when Strike Freedom arrived holding hands with Justice. Well... well... looking foward to Athrun kicking some butt.
Otherwise.. the DOMs are SO funny... they somehow resemble to super market trolleys...(you know when you step on the ledge of the trolley and skid though the isle..)
anyway... GOOD EP.
sayam
08-07-2005, 12:04 PM
as always a great episode of GSD. shinn did good against Kira, better than what I've expected actually, and Kira was cool as usual, when Kira came down through the sky while the song vestige was playing in the background, I thought I would have an orgasm thats for sure.
the DOM troopers was cool to, aww the whole ep was like an giant orgasm :p
Damn I need to get myself a new girlfriend...
zeheero1982
08-07-2005, 01:52 PM
Then people cant say Shinn is sucks ass =P
Oh my gosh, you are butching the english language. Sigh, it makes me very depress when I see other people use improper english:S. Anyways back to the topic, I thought the whole event when Kira threw his two guns in the air, parrying Shinn's attack,and catching it, that my friends was just awsome. It was very original. I never seen it happen in any of the Gundams. The Doms, I hope I spell it right, were just amazing. It almost gave me a heart attack when the three Doms did their jet stream attack. In conclusion, I really think the animators are pushing the envoloped to its max. I hope the next episode will be as exciting as 42.
Another thing came to my mind, it seems Destiny Gundam isn't as good as Strike Freedom, mainly, it just don't have the stamina like Strike Freedom. The ironic thing is that Destiny Gundam is name after the show, yet Strike is winning, you can argue he didn't win but he did withdraw, very interesting.
Freija
08-07-2005, 01:54 PM
Oh my gosh, you are butching the english language. Sigh, it makes me very depress when I see other people use improper english:S.
it is not allowed to correct the english used, its rude to people, since they maybe have dyslexy(sp?), not English as language since they come from another country, etc. you should take a good look at the forum rules.
zeheero1982
08-07-2005, 02:00 PM
Okay, you have a point there. I won't argue with you, but people should try harder using proper english.Anyways, its no disrepect to "Special People." Back to the topic, okay?:smile-big
Chillin
08-07-2005, 02:12 PM
it was said S-F was the main MS of Destiny and Kira was the main protagonist for the last episodes. That leads me to believe Kira will fight some unknown MS more powerful than S-F, I-J, and Destiny.
Destiny could mean something else other than just the MS. Yeah and please be respectful of others. Lots of people on the forums don't even use English as a first language, some have disabilities, and others are using stupid on-screen keyboards like yours truly. I agree, no more on the matter
Jh1stgen
08-07-2005, 02:48 PM
^ ya ... i have to agree cus i heard that the next epi Athrun will try and convince Shinn, but Shinn decides to be his usual ass self and attack Athrun. In addition, Athrun opens a can of ass whooping and defeats Destiny. So that tells u that Destiny+Legend arent the main ms antagonist
me_is_david
08-07-2005, 03:24 PM
Oh my gosh, you are butching the english language. Sigh, it makes me very depress when I see other people use improper english:S.
LOL hahahhaha I didnt even notice I had a typo
WOW I feel so stupid right now lol :laugh :laugh :laugh
HAHHAHAH omg... >< and I was one person who bashed on the person who used improper english when he/she neg repped me.
wow.... that just made me look like an ass didn't it? :xp
but yes that was a typo, this isn't a school paper so I don't read my post over to double check for spelling/grammar errors and shit.
Because I'm sure people could make out what I was saying so there really is not point on double checking.
We all have typos don't we? =P I'm not a fob -_-, lol thats like one of the only times that I've typed somethign that wasn't correct.
So yeah, I'm not perfect, I don't care, lol
It's a forum, no one's going to grade me on the way I type.
So yah... people make mistakes... I made one of my first. :amuse
moving on..
The DOM Trooper's female pilot kinda reminds me of Melissa Mao of FMP...:amuse
The funny thing is that Melissa's VA does Hilda's VA
I just only said Riza Hawkeye last time b/c most ppl have seen FMA haha
and I saw FMP long ago and don't remember her voice
But yah, all three of them have the same voice actor
dh19440113
08-07-2005, 03:28 PM
reply ssouske:
"Is the ferrari on your avy really going to come out in production? or is it a concept for a new car? and what will it succeed... cause i doubt that will be enzo's successor... i think its going to be the 430's successor... "
The dino is a entry level ferrari that will fall below the f430 line of gt cars. Its price is estimated to be $100,000, which is a bargain for ferrari. This car was initial designed to replace the masserati coupe, however masserati was given to Alfa Rameo recently. So ferrari redesignated the car as an entry level ferrari. A porsche fighter and a response to austin martin vantage v8. :)
zeheero1982
08-07-2005, 03:48 PM
I don't agree with you. Rey and Shinn may come around, and join Kira's team. I am being to think maybe Raw La Ku Say, I hope I spell it right if not please correct me, is still alive. You guys may argue that there is no way because Kira stab him in the Providence's cockpit with the beam saber. However, it has be proved time and time again that characters in Seed always somehow manages to come back, this includes, Muw and Kira. If you look at Muw's death scene, there is no way he could have come back. So, I think there is hope for Raw too.
me_is_david
08-07-2005, 04:22 PM
well we saw Raww Le Kuruze die.
The glass on his helmet shatter so there really is no way he could have lived
As for Mwu, yes his helmet was in space as well.
But they made Gundam SEED: Special Edition, which apparently overrites the originial series.
And in those 3 movies when Mwu was "killed" his helmet was editied out from that scene.
However I do not know if they edited out Raww's death.
If they did then disregard this whole statement but if the glass still shattered on his hemelt in the SE movies then he is dead because we saw him die.
True Andrew and Sting magically came back to life. But it is basically a rule now that if you don't see the character itself die then there is a chance he is alive.
ie. Sting, we only saw Chaos blow up so there was a chance he lived. He then got impaled by Destiny's sword and was covered with blood so he is dead.
Auel is dead, we saw his helmet fill up with blood
Nicol is death, we saw his helmet fill with blood too.
Andrew could not be proclaimd daed because all we saw was his BuCue blow up and he is alive to this episode.
Heine is dead, we saw him get cut in two.
I can go on but yeah get my drift? lol
If we see the character itself somehow show signs of being killed then there is a chance they're alive
But yeah... I went on and on about pointless stuff lol
Only the first part of this post has relevance to zeheero1982's statement lol
dh19440113
08-07-2005, 05:02 PM
From the spoilers I've read, Zaft will not be able to defeat orb this time.:amazed
It seems that shinn will lose his cool when Justice appear and lose miserably to a seeded athrun.:amuse
The command submarine of zaft is distroyed and talia take control of zaft forces and order a retreat.:noworry
Jubril will escape in a shuttle with the aid of orb traitors.:darn
Akirou
08-07-2005, 05:55 PM
Newtype September Spoilers:
PHASE-43「反撃の声」 (Voice of the Counterattack)
脚本:高橋ナツコ、大野木寛、両澤千晶
演出:西村大樹
絵コンテ:米たにヨシトモ、西澤晋、福田己津央
作画監督:山口晋、有澤寛
シンのデスティニーがキラのフリーダムを撃とうとしたところに、アスランの∞ジャスティスが割 って入る。
そして激戦の中、ジブリールを載せたシャトルがオーブから脱出。タリアはオーブでの戦闘が無意味になったこ とを悟り、ザフト軍を撤退させる。
Nothing new there...
PHASE-44「二人のラクス」 (Two Lacus's)
脚本:吉野弘幸、両澤千晶
演出:久保山英一
絵コンテ:鳥羽聡、西澤晋、福田己津央
作画監督:米山浩平、池田有
カガリが全世界に向け、演説をはじめた所にラクスを装ったミーアが現れた。
「その方の姿に、惑わされないで下さい」という言葉と共に、本物のラクスも現れ、
演説を見守る世界中の人々にメッセージを伝え始める。一方、月に向かったジブリールは。
最終兵器“レクイエム”の使用を決意。プラントに対し、攻撃の矛先を向ける。
Nothing new there...
PHASE-45「変革の序曲」 (Revolutionary Overture)
脚本:森田繁、両澤千晶
演出:吉村章
絵コンテ:鳥羽聡、西澤晋、米たにヨシトモ、福田己津央
作画監督: しんぼたくろう、高瀬健一
レクイエムの第2射を阻止すべく、ザフト軍はビームの第一中継点に攻撃を開始。
合流を急ぐミネルバに、レクイエム本体を奇襲攻撃するよう命令が届く。
In order to stop Requiem from firing a second time, ZAFT troops begin attacking the target of its first shot... Minerva gets the order to attack Requiem directly...
PHASE-46「サブタイトル未定」 (Title Unknown)
脚本:野村裕一
演出:高田昌宏
絵コンテ:鳥羽聡、西澤晋、福田己津央
作画監督:鎌田祐輔、椛島洋介
ラクス達は、月の自由都市・コペルニクスの街を散策する。
そこに、ミーアから助けを求めるメッセージが届く。
Lacus & co walks through streets of the free lunar city Copernicus... Then a message of Meer seeking help reaches them.
Freija
08-07-2005, 06:22 PM
PHASE-46「サブタイトル未定」 (Title Unknown)
脚本:野村裕一
演出:高田昌宏
絵コンテ:鳥羽聡、西澤晋、福田己津央
作画監督:鎌田祐輔、椛島洋介
ラクス達は、月の自由都市・コペルニクスの街を散策する。
そこに、ミーアから助けを求めるメッセージが届く。
Lacus & co walks through streets of the free lunar city Copernicus... Then a message of Meer seeking help reaches them.
can't the bitch just die already (Meer)
maybe thats what that distress call is...she's about to get killed and is asking for help
Son_Pan
08-07-2005, 07:46 PM
lol. oh god, i feel dizzy from that rollerskatng b-day party.
lol.
some toys for the boys:
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/592/becu55img600x4501122961966sdfo.jpg
^that one is SO cute. lol
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/646/dg14egg7773qi.jpg
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/9067/dg15egg7774tc.jpg
^that shield looks like a broken piece of glass. ahahah.
http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/8490/saruru1974img450x6001122642054.jpg
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edit:
btw, chillin,or whoever, do you know which anime this girl is from? she looks really cool. and is it available for download?
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=add61303saber5egg7776ab.jpg
thanks.
ElelloN
08-07-2005, 09:25 PM
maybe thats what that distress call is...she's about to get killed and is asking for help
I hope they come to late :D
Well, no. I think Meer now got potential to live. If she drops the Lacus thing, there is a good chance she will live. If she dont, well dont put her in the same room as some of the hardcore Lacus supporters ;)
Jh1stgen
08-07-2005, 09:31 PM
I don't agree with you. Rey and Shinn may come around, and join Kira's team. I am being to think maybe Raw La Ku Say, I hope I spell it right if not please correct me, is still alive. You guys may argue that there is no way because Kira stab him in the Providence's cockpit with the beam saber. However, it has be proved time and time again that characters in Seed always somehow manages to come back, this includes, Muw and Kira. If you look at Muw's death scene, there is no way he could have come back. So, I think there is hope for Raw too.
WOAH! That's pretty farfetched when u say that Rey+Shinn will switch sides. If that is the case, who are the main antagonist? Main antagonist as in the ms antagonist that is considered to be the same calibre or if not better than SF+IF+DESTINY+LEGEND? So essentially what u got is a boring serie and quite predictable one too(the outcome of the war). However, i do agree that Klueeze still might be lurking within the dark
staradderdragoon
08-07-2005, 10:16 PM
"In order to stop Requiem from firing a second time, ZAFT troops begin attacking the target of its first shot... Minerva gets the order to attack Requiem directly... "
wow. i havent posted in a week but it seems like the posting has died down a bit.....anyhow, with that quote from above, i was wondering, does anybody have a pic of the requiem?
Chrno
08-07-2005, 11:04 PM
edit:
btw, chillin,or whoever, do you know which anime this girl is from? she looks really cool. and is it available for download?
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=add61303saber5egg7776ab.jpg
thanks.
That's from Fate/Stay night her name is Saber, the series still ain't out its based on a Hgame.
Jh1stgen
08-07-2005, 11:15 PM
"In order to stop Requiem from firing a second time, ZAFT troops begin attacking the target of its first shot... Minerva gets the order to attack Requiem directly... "
wow. i havent posted in a week but it seems like the posting has died down a bit.....anyhow, with that quote from above, i was wondering, does anybody have a pic of the requiem?
Nope ...
But u can imagine that it is similar to genisis or Nibelung
Jujubie
08-08-2005, 01:36 AM
i've never said Shinn actually sucked ass, since if he did he would never
1.figure out Kira's weakness
i want him to get owned but not without a good fight, then it would be all boring to watch it.
hehe lets enjoy the last eps together and hope shinn switches side :D
Shinn did not figure out Kira's weakness, Rey did. Of the two, Rey is more analytical and cold. Shinn apparently has more skills. And I do not believe Rey will go to the light because there would be no one else to fulfill the character of the villain, and I suspect Le Creset lives on inside Rey somewhere. I also suspect he is more villainous than Dullindal. Just this feeling I get from him lol
Chillin
08-08-2005, 01:37 AM
That's from Fate/Stay night her name is Saber, the series still ain't out its based on a Hgame.
correct, heh beat me to it
edit: I have a keyboard...I'm back in business
Freija
08-08-2005, 04:39 AM
Shinn did not figure out Kira's weakness, Rey did.Shinn did his part in figuring out Of the two, Rey is more analytical and cold. agreedShinn apparently has more skills. And I do not believe Rey will go to the light because there would be no one else to fulfill the character of the villain,i never said rey should go i said Shinn and I suspect Le Creset lives on inside Rey somewhere. I also suspect he is more villainous than Dullindal. Just this feeling I get from him lol
Kuruuze and Rey was alive at same point so how can he be Rey?(i maybe misunderstood you here.
ssouske
08-08-2005, 09:08 AM
The dino is a entry level ferrari that will fall below the f430 line of gt cars. Its price is estimated to be $100,000, which is a bargain for ferrari. This car was initial designed to replace the masserati coupe, however masserati was given to Alfa Rameo recently. So ferrari redesignated the car as an entry level ferrari. A porsche fighter and a response to austin martin vantage v8. :)
uhmmm.... you could have PMed me the answer because it is off topic... but nevertheless, thanks for the info... i love it!:amuse a rep for you
ok back on the GSD... in my opinion, shinn might go to kira's side... but i can't see ray doing that thing... he is uber loyal to gilly... and i think he will continue the destiny plan even if gilly dies before the end...
Hatsune Miku
08-08-2005, 09:14 AM
Have any of you seen episode 42? I think thats the newest episode so far. Wonder if they will make a Gundam Seed Destiny movie...
Akirou
08-08-2005, 11:03 AM
is this were true, i'd die a happy person:
In Episode 45, Cagalli returns the ring to Athrun. Meyrin and Cagalli will have a talk. It seems that Athrun and Cagalli become independent and go their seperate ways to solve their own problems. Episode 45 and 46 will have some Athrun and Meer.
I'm guessing Athrun goes to save Meer? And I'm also guessing that Cagalli returns the ring to him as she needs to take care of ORB first. Or maybe she gives it back to him and says, "You come back alive and give this to me again."
I have yet to find the source.
And there's this:
Animage Spoilers:
DESTINY
PHASE-43「反撃の声」
シン達との激しい戦闘を終え帰還したキラとアスラン、そして、ジブリール
を取り逃がし次の策を思案するデュランダル。世界中が注目する中
デュランダルに向けて、カガリのメッセージが放送される。
After their violent battle with Shinn & co ends, Kira & Athrun return. Then Djibril slipping out of their grasp causes Dullindal to ponder his next plans. The attention throughout the world is focused on Dullindal, and Cagalli's message begins broadcasting.
PHASE-44「二人のラクス」
カガリの放送によってデュランダルへの信頼を揺るがされるシンだったが
レイの巧みな言葉によって再びアークエンジェルを追う決意をする。
そのころプラントには…。
Cagalli's broadcast shakens Shinn's trust of Dullindal, but with the clever words of Rey, he is once again determined to chase down the Archangel.
PHASE-45「変革の序曲」
プラントへの突然の攻撃によって、地球軍とザフトの戦闘は一気に激しさを増していく。
そして、厳しい状況だが、ロゴスを討つべく奇襲作戦に出るシン達。
そんな戦況を、もどかしい思いで見守っていたキラとアスランは…。
With the abrupt attack on PLANT, the battle between the EA and ZAFT at once intensify to an extreme. Then, in this intense circumstance, Shinn & co commence a surprise attack on LOGOS. Kira & Athrun feel impatient watching such a situation...
lunamaria-chan
08-08-2005, 11:16 AM
Apparently, Phase 46 just states that Lacus and co get a distress call from Meer...
Freija
08-08-2005, 11:26 AM
is this were true, i'd die a happy person:
In Episode 45, Cagalli returns the ring to Athrun. Meyrin and Cagalli will have a talk. It seems that Athrun and Cagalli become independent and go their seperate ways to solve their own problems. Episode 45 and 46 will have some Athrun and Meer.
I'm guessing Athrun goes to save Meer? And I'm also guessing that Cagalli returns the ring to him as she needs to take care of ORB first. Or maybe she gives it back to him and says, "You come back alive and give this to me again."
I have yet to find the source.
if that happens im out of GS series for good
Jujubie
08-08-2005, 12:54 PM
Shinn did his part in figuring outagreedi never said rey should go i said Shinn
Kuruuze and Rey was alive at same point so how can he be Rey?(i maybe misunderstood you here.
Not all of that was for you, U_I. Just the public in general. Haha, I just have this wild hope that Kluuze somehow implanted memories of himself inside Rey and will awaken some time. Farfetch'ed, I know. Anyways, ain't my avatar cute???
lunamaria-chan
08-08-2005, 12:58 PM
Well that woulg rip off Batman Beyond, Return of the Joker... LOL
me_is_david
08-08-2005, 01:38 PM
I've lost hope for Rey lol
I think he has been holding back, probably part of this plan or soemthing.
Unless he turns out to be some real psycho like Raww and was acting all nice and was using Gilly lol.
Also at this rate, if spoilers are true. Shinn won't switch sides until the very end.
Unless maybe Atrhun can get alot of his words out and Shinn believes some of it , he might switch earlier although I doubt that.
Also I was just bored at work and started to think anout random crap.
And I noticed that Athrun and Shinn are basically the same type of character.
Only difference's are is that Shinn is a more angry person than Athrun and also Shinn doesn't have friends to help him see the light.
Although these are big differences that make the character who they are if you think about it they are both the same.
I'm sure if Stellar was normal and still lived, and maybe played a role for Shinn like Kira was to Athrun then Shinn would switched sides just like Athrun.
But then again that would have been a rip off GS lol.
Akirou
08-08-2005, 01:45 PM
September 2005 Animage Character Ranking
01. Edward Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist) - 582 votes
02. Kira Yamato (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 513 votes
03. Athrun Zala (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 254 votes
04. Roy Mustang (Fullmetal Alchemist) - 205 votes
05. Cagalli Yula Athha (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 148 votes
06. Lacus Clyne (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 141 votes
07. Hitsugaya Toushirou (Bleach) - 139 votes
08. Shinn Asuka (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 132 votes
09. Sakura (Tsubasa Chronicle) - 119 votes
10. Shibuya Yuuri (Kyou Kara Maou!) - 117 votes
11. Stellar Loussier (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 92 votes
13. Kinomoto Sakura (Cardcaptor Sakura) - 88 votes
14. Yzak Joule (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 87 votes
16. Rey Za Burrel (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 82 votes
19. Lunamaria Hawke (Gundam S
lunamaria-chan
08-08-2005, 01:50 PM
Regarding the Poll: The Sakura votes should've been joined...LOL
Edward still pwns!!!
Akirou
08-08-2005, 01:50 PM
take all this with a grain of salt, cept the rankings:
Gundam SEED Destiny Unofficial Spoilers
After all, the influence of the real Lacus is strong.
**** and ***** (particularly) show reactions to Lacus's speech. (Meer and the chairman are the exceptions.)
As for ***** especially, this becomes a turning point.
Well, if the battle scene increases, the amount of turns decreases. But she does not go away.
As long as the chairman comes out, Lacus comes out.
Although there is not much twining, the mutual trust between Lacus and Cagalli is ironclad.
They are not the only two people, but there is conversation. Recording has been completed. It was good.
**** = four characters in name, e.g., Yzak, Meyrin
***** = five characters in name, e.g., Dearka, Lunamaria
Take unofficial spoilers with a grain of salt.
If the apparent insider source cited here is correct about the recording of the dialog for episode 43 having been done on Friday, July 29, 2005...
Then the above unofficial spoilers by another apparent insider source may refer to the dialog recording session for episode 44 this past Friday, August 5, 2005.
Re: Lacus & Meer Seiyuu Sings Six Songs in Taiwan
Quote:
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ArseneLupinIII said:
Rumor has it that episode 46 of Gundam SEED DESTINY is titled, "Shinjitsu no Uta" ("Song of Truth") or something.
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According to info posted several days ago on the official website of the Yuurakuchou Anime Town radio show, hosted by Yoshida Hisanori and Tanaka Rie, seiyuu for Lacus Clyne and Meer Campbell, a new Meer song goes on sale September 21. (It is not September 22?)
Is the new Meer song the "Song of Truth"?
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September 2005 Newtype Rankings
Anime Ranking
01. Gundam SEED Destiny
02.?Gundam?SEED
Male Character Ranking
01.?Kira Yamato (Gundam SEED Destiny)
02.?Athrun Zala (Gundam SEED Destiny)
03.?Shinn Asuka (Gundam SEED Destiny)
05.?Yzak Joule (Gundam SEED Destiny)
Female Character Ranking
01. Lacus Clyne (Gundam SEED Destiny)
02.?Cagallii Yula Attha (Gundam SEED Destiny)
03.?Stellar Loussier (Gundam SEED Destiny)
04.?Lunamaria Hawke (Gundam SEED Destiny)
06.?Meyrin Hawke (Gundam SEED Destiny)
08.?Murrue Ramius (Gundam SEED Destiny)
09.?Meer Campbell (Gundam SEED Destiny)
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September 2005 Animage Character Ranking
01. Edward Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist) - 582 votes
02. Kira Yamato (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 513 votes
03. Athrun Zala (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 254 votes
04. Roy Mustang (Fullmetal Alchemist) - 205 votes
05. Cagalli Yula Athha (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 148 votes
06. Lacus Clyne (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 141 votes
07. Hitsugaya Toushirou (Bleach) - 139 votes
08. Shinn Asuka (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 132 votes
09. Sakura (Tsubasa Chronicle) - 119 votes
10. Shibuya Yuuri (Kyou Kara Maou!) - 117 votes
11. Stellar Loussier (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 92 votes
13. Kinomoto Sakura (Cardcaptor Sakura) - 88 votes
14. Yzak Joule (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 87 votes
16. Rey Za Burrel (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 82 votes
19. Lunamaria Hawke (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 79 votes
24. Auel Neider (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 67 votes
28. Meyrin Hawke (Gundam SEED Destiny) - 62 votes
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September 2005 Animedia Character Ranking
01. Lacus Clyne (Gundam SEED Destiny)
03. Kira Yamato (Gundam SEED Destiny)
04. Stellar Loussier (Gundam SEED Destiny)
07. Cagalli Yula Athha (Gundam SEED Destiny)
10. Shinn Asuka (Gundam SEED Destiny)
13. Athrun Zala (Gundam SEED Destiny)
21. Lunamaria Hawke (Gundam SEED Destiny)
27. Rey Za Burrel (Gundam SEED Destiny)
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Lacus Clyne voice actress Tanaka Rie sings Lacus Clyne insert songs Shizuka na Yoru ni, Mizu no Akashi, and Fields of hope.
taken from ArseneLupinIII from animeondvd forums.
me_is_david
08-08-2005, 01:54 PM
haha nice... Stellar is still quite popular =)
and it seems Shinn and Stellar are the most popular next to the original 4
which is actually surprising lol
and wow... Lunamaria's popularity seriously dropped
so I was watching 41/42... and wow...once Shinn came in with Destiny ORB got freaking owned, even though ORB was owning ZAFT
I only skipped around but the episode but damn lol... its weird how Shinn gets so good so quick like someone mentioned.
I guess Destiny is a really good suit? If Shinn is some type of super-coordinator or something though, that would be kinda dumb lol.
and Ed beat out Kira lol... it seems those two are the most popular anime male characters =/
Son_Pan
08-08-2005, 01:55 PM
LOL! YES! Edward Elric is number 1! good, he really deserves it.
eh? but..lacus and meer have different VA's? i thought it was the same.:blink
me_is_david
08-08-2005, 01:57 PM
haha they are the same...I guess they meant to write like Lacus/Meer
or I duno...but they are the same lol
Freija
08-08-2005, 02:09 PM
woahhhh amazing, Shinn is actually on a list, and his number is below 100 O_O that is amazing.. XD
lunamaria-chan
08-08-2005, 02:11 PM
It's unfair, sakura and Sakura Kinomoto although different, are still the same character...
Akirou
08-08-2005, 02:17 PM
also...
animesuki forums state that Cagalli might be getting a new ring in episode 45.
wow, i'm with it today!
Also, athrun's ladies
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=651635&postcount=2934
Son_Pan
08-08-2005, 03:09 PM
hahaha, "dear athrun" thats like, so random.
lunamaria and meyrin look cute! lovin their outfits.
Akirou
08-08-2005, 04:35 PM
Bon Bon Spoilers:
Brief summaries of upcoming episodes:
Phase-43, "Voice Of Counter" - Piloting the Justice, a still-injured Athrun joins the battle with Kira, who is in a tough fight against the team of Destiny & Legend!
Phase-44, "Two Lacuses" - Finally, the real Lacus shows herself to the people. Their spirits are shaken by the appearance of two Lacuses.
Phase-45, "The Overture Of Revolution" - Djibril activates his final weapon! The Minerva's crew fights to save PLANT from annihiliation!!
Phase-46, "The Song Of Truth" - With The Earth Alliance forces crushed and the world firmly in his grasp, Chairman Dullindal at last makes his move to stop the Archangel!?
Son_Pan
08-08-2005, 05:23 PM
Akirou, its good that you are posting some spoilers in here, but thats really for this place:
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=46572
its just alot all at once, and most of them are regarding the same thing except its been reworded/described differently.
not to mention, most of those spoilers were already posted by chopps in that thread. and she does update her original post when she sees spoilers, so perhaps you should do the same.
Akirou
08-08-2005, 05:27 PM
xD
my bad. okies, I'll keep that in mind.
Jh1stgen
08-08-2005, 06:07 PM
For PS ppl: SEED Destiny : Generation of C.E
http://img280.echo.cx/img280/4526/destinygame5ec.jpg
http://img280.echo.cx/img280/2937/destinygame25xn.jpg
Chopstickx
08-08-2005, 08:49 PM
looks like its gonna be forever until it gets released in North America =\
that is if they dont have any bootleg copies...>_>
ssouske
08-08-2005, 10:30 PM
awww... they make a game called generation of C.E. but from what i see in the pictures, it may onlyu cover the 1st part of GSD... no Destiny, no Strike Freedom, no Akatsuki, and no Infinite Justice... bah... damn bandai!:mad
Chopstickx
08-08-2005, 10:45 PM
they might make another one? maybe? =\
staradderdragoon
08-08-2005, 11:00 PM
wow. nice pic of the girls. lol, from the pic, it looks as if cagalli's boobs got bigger....oh well. that new game looks nice....
Chillin
08-09-2005, 01:41 AM
It's no surprise that Ed slightly edged out Kira in one of those rankings. The FMA movie just came out in Japan, but what I'm surprised about is how badly Ed and Kira crushed everyone else.
Anyway I'm anxious to see how Dullindal's plans fail. Ha, he can probably defeat the whole Earth Alliance, but he'll lose to Archangel and Eternal.
Freija
08-09-2005, 05:26 AM
Anyway I'm anxious to see how Dullindal's plans fail. Ha, he can probably defeat the whole Earth Alliance, but he'll lose to Archangel and Eternal.
you think Kusanagi will join those two ships then we have the three ship alliance again :P
edit: in that pic with Cagalli and C:o look what it says next to cagalli AthrunxCagalli(Lovers) :tem
ssouske
08-09-2005, 05:44 AM
^
I think it is still very possible... or mabye an upgraded version of it...
dh19440113
08-09-2005, 06:54 AM
[img=http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6922/2005112351953816qz5zi.th.jpg] (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2005112351953816qz5zi.jpg) [img=http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/7966/2005112351953804jm2qp.th.jpg] (http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2005112351953804jm2qp.jpg)
Found these pictures online
The gouf zaku phantoms yzak and dearka have looks awesome.:amuse
Is the gundam on the top left 2nd pic fortune?:S
ssouske
08-09-2005, 08:24 AM
wow... i nice pics... the white gouf must be yzak's and the black phantom must be for dearka or shiho... but i really never thought that dearka might use a blaze pack... i was thinking that they might actually try and force a gunner pack on a phantom specially made for dearka...:amuse
Donkey Show
08-09-2005, 08:38 AM
Is the gundam on the top left 2nd pic fortune?:S
No, that's Forbidden Blue, one of the very few MSVs to be animated. ^^
ssouske
08-09-2005, 09:27 AM
found some gsd trivia from ANN... this is for those how never saw these yet...
T.M. Revolution's character, Westenfluss, is the German translation of his last name (Nishikawa, which translates to "western river").
Sporting Zakus, Goufs, and now Doms, Gundam Seed Destiny marks the first time in the franchise's history that vintage Universal Century mobile suits have appeared in an alternate-universe Gundam series. Though Zakus and Kapools also appeared in Turn A Gundam, the belief that said series is intended to tie all of the alternative Gundam timelines up until that point together suggests a valid connection back to the Universal Century.
In Episode 23, character Heine Westenfluss' dialogue and choreography as he battles Stellar Loussier's Gaia Gundam pay a very clever homage to Mobile Suit Gundam character Ramba Ral. Both Westenfluss and Ral—piloting Gouf mobile suits—speak the line "This is no Zaku...no Zaku!" when in combat, and one shot in particular where Westenfluss ensnares Stellar's Gundam in the Gouf's whip-like heat rod weapon is identical to Ral trapping Amuro in the original series (complete with a long vertical pan in front of a pink background).
Gundam Seed Destiny's staff placed in the show many references to another of Director Mitsuo Fukuda's series, Future GPX Cyber Formula. Most notable is the convertible that Athrun drives in Episode 8, which is a civilian-use version of the Asurada, the protagonist Hayato Kazami's racing machine from Cyber Formula. Other references include the Orb house that Kira & co. were in, which look exactly the same as Hayato's New Jersey residence in Cyber Formula Sin; the motorcycle that Shinn rides on in Ep 21, which is the same motorcycle that Hayato rides on in the beginning of the Cyber Formula TV series; the part of the third OP where Lacus turns her head to look at Kira, which is reminiscent of a scene from the Cyber Formula Saga OP; and the scene in the fourth OP with Gilbert and Talia is almost an exact duplicate of a scene with Kyoshiro Nagumo and Kyoko Aoi in the Cyber Formula Sin OP.
The character King T@KED@, Meer Campbell's kansai-dialect speaking agent, is actually voiced by and modeled on the looks of Gundam Seed Destiny's executive producer, Seiji Takeda.
One of the longest running ideas in the Gundam Universe is the "masked character" or "the Char-type." In Seed Destiny, three of the voice actors played "masked characters" in previous Gundam outings. Toshihiko Seki (Rey Za Burrel) played Rau La Creusset in "Gundam Seed." Takehito Koyasu (Neo) played Zechs Marquis in "Gundam Wing." And the original Char Aznable himself, Shuichi Ikeda, plays Chairman Gilbert.
In episode 39, Destiny once again pays homage to the original Mobile Suit Gundam, or more specifically, Char Aznable. Kira has a Newtype flash and then fires his funnels at an enemy ship, screaming "Hit them!" There is an identical scene at the end of Mobile Suit Gundam, when Char is fighting in the Zeong. He also has a Newtype flash and screams "Hit them!" as he fires at the enemy.
Yet another homage to the original Mobile Suit Gundam series can be found in Episode 39. Kira's battle against the 25 Zakus and Goufs is extremely similar to Amuro's battle against the 12 Rick Doms in Episode 33. Also, the now-famous line "He destroyed 12 Rick Doms in two minutes?!" by the Zeon commander Conskon is uttered by the ZAFT commander in similar fashion.
Chopstickx
08-09-2005, 01:16 PM
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1807/revivaldiva2bt.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1807/revivaldiva2bt.jpg)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4204/kira4us.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4204/kira4us.jpg) http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/239/angstyshinn0ij.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/239/angstyshinn0ij.jpg)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6383/cagalliakatsuki8xx.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6383/cagalliakatsuki8xx.jpg)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6610/shinnrey9ac.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6610/shinnrey9ac.jpg) http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5764/kiraathrun8ux.th.jpg (http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5764/kiraathrun8ux.jpg)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/453/gundams9nz.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/453/gundams9nz.jpg) http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9067/gundams28uv.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9067/gundams28uv.jpg)
Freija
08-09-2005, 02:11 PM
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1807/revivaldiva2bt.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1807/revivaldiva2bt.jpg)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4204/kira4us.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4204/kira4us.jpg) http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/239/angstyshinn0ij.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/239/angstyshinn0ij.jpg)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6383/cagalliakatsuki8xx.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6383/cagalliakatsuki8xx.jpg)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6610/shinnrey9ac.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6610/shinnrey9ac.jpg) http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5764/kiraathrun8ux.th.jpg (http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5764/kiraathrun8ux.jpg)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/453/gundams9nz.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/453/gundams9nz.jpg) http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9067/gundams28uv.th.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9067/gundams28uv.jpg)
nice scans *reps*
Son_Pan
08-09-2005, 02:13 PM
OHHH!!
i like that pic of shinn, rey, athrun, and kira! hope they make more pics of them 4. thanks for the pics, chopps.
edit:
for the DOM Trooper Lovers:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9551/mhe01533img600x3721122607004im.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5248/mhe01533img600x2941122607010im.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2562/mfevo4img600x450112340572331eg.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3274/mfevo4img600x450112340571430eg.jpg
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/8568/aterierkuroneimg599x5991123424.jpg
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/3434/aterierkuroneimg599x5991123425.jpg
http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/3214/aterierkuroneimg600x3991123424.jpg
Chillin
08-09-2005, 03:10 PM
Awesome pics guys
I keep thinking that the Fortune Gundam rumor might be true. It would make sense. Seems like they have this whole thing with three going on and similar themes in their names
Freedom, Justice, Providence
Calamity, Raider, Forbidden
Chaos, Gaia, Abyss
Destiny, Legend, Fortune
It could get introduced late just like the Providence
Jh1stgen
08-09-2005, 04:43 PM
^ and teh rumor states that Gill will pilot it. lol
Chillin
08-09-2005, 04:54 PM
Dullindal might be pimp as a pilot in that thing (and come on, he has Char's VA :P ). In addition the suit may just be that powerful. I remember when a non-SEEDed Kira completely trashed Rau, but when Rau got into Providence he pushed Kira to his limits and heavily damaged Freedom.
Jh1stgen
08-09-2005, 05:16 PM
If that happens ... i think ill have some small emotional trauma or something
http://www.zeonic-corps.net/tracker/download.php?action=torrent&info_hash=e6efe7860a20cf41b293ab39d645a0e2c2e863f1
seed destiny astray
ex) http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/8766/page0020035rg.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page0020035rg.jpg)
Look @ Gill ... so evil looking
It would be cool if that was the group of pilots to start off the serie. So ZAFT have their owns units (not stolen; Gaia+Chaos+Abyss) along with Shinn+those 3 pilots, the EA have theirs along with their pilot (Sting, Auel n Stella), ORB got theirs along with Clyne Factor+Kira+Athrun
Son_Pan
08-09-2005, 06:48 PM
I agree, i wonder what would have happend if those 3 units hadn't been stolen in the first place. damn those druggies!! btw, do we really have any proof that Dullindal will be piloting "fortune" gundam? just curious, thats all.
Chillin
08-09-2005, 07:42 PM
No, it's all just rumors at the moment.
Jh1stgen
08-09-2005, 08:26 PM
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/5581/11gj.th.jpg (http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11gj.jpg)
Maybe that is the reason why Lacus didnt trust Gill bc she had some background knowledge of Gill
Chillin
08-09-2005, 08:45 PM
Hmm so Dullindal used to be close to Seigal Clyne and his group. That's very interesting. I woudln't be surprised if that's the reason Lacus could not trust Dullindal. Dullindal also knew that if Lacus was anything like her father, she would not agree with what Dullindal was doing and eventually take action much like she did in the first war.
Jh1stgen
08-09-2005, 08:57 PM
That would explain a lot on the attempt to assasinate Lacus IMO
Chopstickx
08-09-2005, 11:46 PM
thats interesting :oh...referring to the Astray scan btw lol.
and no S_P i cant find the torrent link lol, sry.
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3708/1mspilot8nz.th.jpg (http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/3708/1mspilot8nz.jpg) http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7428/kiranewtype0vm.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7428/kiranewtype0vm.jpg)
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/1580/athrunstraysheep0bu.th.jpg (http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/1580/athrunstraysheep0bu.jpg) http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/156/athrunnewtype1sq.th.jpg (http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/156/athrunnewtype1sq.jpg)
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1695/cagallinewtype4bh.th.jpg (http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1695/cagallinewtype4bh.jpg)
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/4108/meyrinrunaway6eo.th.jpg (http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/4108/meyrinrunaway6eo.jpg) http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9393/lunamariabrokenheart7tk.th.jpg (http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9393/lunamariabrokenheart7tk.jpg)
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2663/stellarextended1ik.th.jpg (http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2663/stellarextended1ik.jpg)
Ha-ri
08-10-2005, 02:06 AM
This may have been talked about but whats up with teh 3rd unit when kira and lacus are taking about her going in the justise down to teh battle in ep42?
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 02:43 AM
That was gaia (andrew's ms)
Freija
08-10-2005, 04:59 AM
.... now that is interesting, look what it says on Kira's pic. Nr.1 MS Pilot *grin*
Jikes
08-10-2005, 10:08 AM
.... now that is interesting, look what it says on Kira's pic. Nr.1 MS Pilot *grin*
I think its been well established that Kira with his Ultamate Co-ordinator New Type ablilties is the best pilot ever, plus its seems that japanese kids these days like god-like robot like characters have about as much depth of character as my pet rock :laugh i shouldn't make fun, Mr Rock has shown numerous times that he has a sense of humour by throwning himself into the backs of peoples heads (Mr Rock I love you). Anyway enough of my ranting.
I'm really dying to see how this series ends, i dont want it to end as a fan fest with all the characters people like surviving (:sad cuz then Shinn would die lol) and plus i there would be no surprise to it. Heres hoping Mr Writer gets some balls and kills of a character people that doesn't rank low on the ladder. I've not gotten over Hiene getting killed after what? 3 episodes, what a waste of a funny character plus he was in the intro for 12 episodes.
Chillin
08-10-2005, 12:30 PM
Wow...someone is bitter...don't even get me started.
I really hope Athrun clears his mind of all doubt like they said he would. I couldn't believe that even after he left ZAFT he was still confused.
DevilB0i
08-10-2005, 01:34 PM
arthun joins the fun how would he do is he better than kira?
me_is_david
08-10-2005, 01:37 PM
Well....Stellar was a somewhat popular character lol
and she died
maybe not among the people in this forum but she even gets her own page in a newtype magazine and is the most popular female next to lacus and cagalli lol
and oh god... lol I think its been established that its Kira > Shinn > Athrun
unless somehow Athrun goes SEED mode and gets really really good lol
you notice he hasn't gone SEED all series even though he seemed like he could do it whenever in GS
I really don't understand what they are doing with Athrun's piloting skills
I mean .... Saviour says it all. Yes lol I'm still disappointed that the suit did close to nothing in the series T_T
Chillin
08-10-2005, 01:45 PM
Athrun hasn't done any good piloting since the beginning of Destiny. If he were to all of a sudden get better it would just be that he finally remembers who he is, and that he is an elite pilot. I can't wait to see him in action. Anyone notice how the joints of the I-Justice shine silver? They aren't as noticeable as S-Freedom's gold joints, but I just wanted to point that out.
Sheesh I want to see what Yzak and Dearka are going to do. It's been forever, and no word from them. I know Yzak is not pleased with Dullindal.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 02:06 PM
U guys should just wait for epi 43 ... it's said that Athrun will own Shinn. And for bonus, hopefully he goes Seed.
IMO i dont think Yzak will switch sides, he is loyal as they come. He isnt very open minded like Dearka, but seeing how Dearka is pal to Yzak and prolly his only friend. I dont think he'll switch sides either. That is why he stayed with ZAFT rather than picking the path as Athrun
DevilB0i
08-10-2005, 02:15 PM
Havent seen arthun went threw seed mode threw out the destiny but arthun owning shinn would be a show since he think he can own arthun.
Chillin
08-10-2005, 02:21 PM
The last time Yzak and Dearka appeared Yzak was clearly upset with Dullindal. I don't think they will really switch sides, but I don't think Yzak will be happy if given the order to take out Archangel and Eternal. Switching sides at the very end I think will be left for Shinn, who will get his ass whooped by Kira or Athrun and finally have some forward movement in development as a character.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 02:25 PM
He was upset bc of how serious the war had gotten. U prolly can imagine that declaring war against LOGO is pretty big, considering they develop artillery (ms/ma/nukes/etc). There was no indication that Yzak had 2nd thoughts about Gill
BattousaiMS
08-10-2005, 02:25 PM
Izak and Dearka will switch sides, they are Clyne faction members (hidden that is), when Dundiel's truth has been told, watch Zaft become devided into two groups again.
Chillin
08-10-2005, 02:30 PM
I see where you are coming from JH1stGen, but he still was mad that Dullindal escalated the war to that level.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 02:30 PM
@BattousaiMS :
That will be somewhat hard bc when Djbril fires requiem at PLANT, people of PLANT+ZAFT will be more persuaded to Gill than Lacus. Lacus will prolly try to convey the ppl of the world that coordinatar and natural should coop with one another, but seeing how the reguiem was fired at plant, that perspective will change. And i dont think Dearka and Yzak works under for Lacus bc Athrun didnt even know about it. You even saw Yzak trying to convince Athrun to come back to PLANT. And you also have to consider that there has to be a balance in the serie. If Dearka and Yzak leaves .. then obviously ORB+Cylne Factor will be pretty stacked; Mwu's mobile armor, SF, IJ, Gaia, 3 DOMS, Orb's unit, Akatsuki, Eternal, AA, and etc.
@Chillin
Nukes were fired at PLANT! What do u expect a normal chairman would do? And Yzak should repsect his decesion bc Yzak isnt that type of person to forgive someone who tried to harm his homeland
Chillin
08-10-2005, 03:06 PM
Heh well I didn't say Yzak shouldn't respect Dullindal's decision, but he was upset about it. Djibril firing Requiem does give Dullindal more ammunition. Yzak may look at it like both are at fault like the folks on AA, Eternal, etc. Dullindal backed Djibril up into a corner, and Djibril being the type of person he is fires a weapon of mass destruction. It could even be that Dullindal wanted Djibril to fire that weapon, so when Dullindal stops him he can look like more of a hero in the eyes of the people and further his secret ideals.
BattousaiMS
08-10-2005, 03:08 PM
They will be two groups but that dosn't mean they will both not go after Djibril, it's just that they will have an additional goal like last war which will be to take down Dundiel also.
The gowing joints in Freedom and Justice remind me of something from UC timeline. Could they be the equivalent of bio-sensors like Zeta and ZZ had? Of course in the case of UC biosensors they usually didn't display much unless it was a pretty powerful newtype move.
As for Clyne faction being stacked, I wouldn't blame them if they are, they gonna go face against two large forces, so none would blame them if they had the strongest fighters at their side.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 03:21 PM
When i say stack, i mean it's waaaaay stacked. Sure they will have to face 2 foes, but they are nothing more than conventional units which ORB's units+Mwu's MA+Gaia+3 Doms+Akatsuki+AA+Eternal+etc can easily handle. So the main battle will be Destroyer vs Legend+Destiny vs IJ+SF. If we can observe the battle so far, Destroyer is nothing ... it can be easily be destroyed by Legend+Destiny or IJ+SF. So in addition, the small fries (conventional units) will be nothing more to the ORB+Clyne Factor. So if u throw in Dearka and Yzak ... that is way stacked.
ZAFT wont be split up into 2 bc the only way to do that is if Gill is exploited. But when the requiem is fired at PLANT. The people wont listen to Lacus, why should they? So far what ive concluded, the Destiny plan is something that has to relate to gene manipulation; the chart consist of oraganism and was based on their ages, and 1 of them includes human. So whoopie do. Having that book won't exploit Gill of his true intention. The only main way that he'll get exploited is by Meer. But i can prolly see that Gill will try to trick the people by doing it vice versas; so Lacus will be viewed as the imposter.
Chillin
08-10-2005, 03:32 PM
I do think Meer may have a hand in revealing Dullindal's true plans. At this point he will want to get rid of her. It will be one of those things where she realizes Lacus was more than just a ditzy pop idol, and thinks to herself "Lacus would do the same thing." If she wants to act like Lacus, she should come with it 100%.
BlitzTidus
08-10-2005, 03:42 PM
When i say stack, i mean it's waaaaay stacked. Sure they will have to face 2 foes, but they are nothing more than conventional units which ORB's units+Mwu's MA+Gaia+3 Doms+Akatsuki+AA+Eternal+etc can easily handle. So the main battle will be Destroyer vs Legend+Destiny vs IJ+SF. If we can observe the battle so far, Destroyer is nothing ... it can be easily be destroyed by Legend+Destiny or IJ+SF. So in addition, the small fries (conventional units) will be nothing more to the ORB+Clyne Factor. So if u throw in Dearka and Yzak ... that is way stacked.
ZAFT wont be split up into 2 bc the only way to do that is if Gill is exploited. But when the requiem is fired at PLANT. The people wont listen to Lacus, why should they? So far what ive concluded, the Destiny plan is something that has to relate to gene manipulation; the chart consist of oraganism and was based on their ages, and 1 of them includes human. So whoopie do. Having that book won't exploit Gill of his true intention. The only main way that he'll get exploited is by Meer. But i can prolly see that Gill will try to trick the people by doing it vice versas; so Lacus will be viewed as the imposter.
Theyre going against 2 forces at once. They will need a lot of help. I think your forgetting that mwu/cagalli arent super fighters and that they could easily be destroyed by a very big number of normal suits. DOM troopers are strong but theyre also not invincible. Eternal and AA are ships. Even though theyre in the best ships, im sure a big number of other ships could take them on. Yzak and Dearka arent also super pilots. Yes theyre good, but not that good as to make a huge difference.
On the other side, EA can produce a lot of destroys, they probably got a weapon of mass destruction. Zaft has Legend, Destiny and Impulse, and theyve got a few billion normal suits.
So ya I dont really think its stacked.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 03:59 PM
Gee ... i duno where uve been lately but have u seen Akatsuki in action? It's obvious that it's > conventional unit! Note* she easily defeated Gouf+Zaku, and if she were to fight the EA conventional unit, the outcome is the same. Mwu with his MA is pretty damn good against conventional unit. I know at that time Shinn wasn't that great in the beginning of the serie, but Mwu w.o a doubt couldve beaten Shinn if Rey didnt help. As well, with the backup of Gaia+Orb unit+2 ships+3 DOMS+etc ... they'll do more than fine...
I duno where you got mass production of Destroyer ... so if it is 500 units vs Legend+Destiny vs +IJ+SF ... then ya, i'll take what i said. But chances are, that isnt the case. You know how much $$ they need? Better yet, they need GOOD pliots. YOu have to take into consideration they r natural pilots. I dont think we'll see any extended anymore
me_is_david
08-10-2005, 04:06 PM
athrun owning shinn would be a show since he think he can own arthun.
It's because at this point ...HE CAN :laugh :laugh
Shinn was equal with Kira, unless Infinite Justice is like amazing and like Chillin said ...remembers who he is and starts being elite again.
But I guess we jsut have to wait for 43 and see how they go with it.
Chances are Athrun will not lose, but I think he will not win so easily either.
If he does then seriously... they suck ass with Athrun's character in Destiny.
As for Yzak...remember he never did switch sides in GS
Even with Patrick Zala as the chairman firing GENESIS
Patrick wanted to wipe out the Earth, Gilly seems like he wants to take it over.
Dearka has a chance of switching but IMO Yzak won't. If they have him switch that will just ruin his character.
Yzak never fought for Lacus, I duno where you get this idea that they're are hidden clyne faction members. Maybe Dearka but Yzak has always been a loyal ZAFT soldier.
Towards the end did he try to convince ZAFT to stop? No
If he did I will be more lead to believe he is with Lacus.
If anything he will just help them fight like he did in GS.
For him to defect would be a total change of character for him and would really make me disappointed with Yzak.
IMO if they switch..it will be stacked.
As they are the more better/elite pilots of ZAFT.
Actually it's already stacked IMO
Strike Freedom can easily take out a fleet alone
Same with Infinite Justice since its another main suit.
Akatsuki can't be shot down unless you use a beam sabre so that gives it an edge.
3 DOM's with close to elite pilots and a coordinated attack that can clearly wipe out a good number of MS
Two METEOR's..forgot to mention those <_<
A very agile suit, piloted by an elite pilot...Gaia with Andrew
Not to mention they have Neo who is a amazing pilot as well.
Who most likely will get Strike Rouge.
What do ZAFT have thats really amazing compared to those.
Destiny, Legend and Impulse.
Now if you don't think thats stacked then wow... Shinn, Rey and Lunamaria must be some good ass pilots to be even with all those.
We all know grunts are nothing. They made serve as support and distraction but they won't take anything down.
So I'm with JH1stGen about Kira and co. being stacked.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 04:17 PM
Ya .. ^ agree what you said too
Ya i might've forgotten about the Meteor BUT that is why i put "etc." ;)
Chillin
08-10-2005, 04:18 PM
My little two cents on it...I think they are pretty even at the moment. ZAFT has quantity, AA and co. have quality.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 04:21 PM
Ya but u have to consider that EA and ZAFT are hurting at the moment. Both lost lots of units during the battle in Heaven Base. So their "quantity" have decreased dramatically. So EA only has the moon while ZAFT didnt really change much exceptt the casualties in the invasion at Heaven's Base. So given to that, i think ORB+Clyne Factor can take those 2 foe's conventional units.
BlitzTidus
08-10-2005, 04:29 PM
Gee ... i duno where uve been lately but have u seen Akatsuki in action? It's obvious that it's > conventional unit! Note* she easily defeated Gouf+Zaku, and if she were to fight the EA conventional unit, the outcome is the same. Mwu with his MA is pretty damn good against conventional unit. I know at that time Shinn wasn't that great in the beginning of the serie, but Mwu w.o a doubt couldve beaten Shinn if Rey didnt help. As well, with the backup of Gaia+Orb unit+2 ships+3 DOMS+etc ... they'll do more than fine...
I duno where you got mass production of Destroyer ... so if it is 500 units vs Legend+Destiny vs +IJ+SF ... then ya, i'll take what i said. But chances are, that isnt the case. You know how much $$ they need? Better yet, they need GOOD pliots. YOu have to take into consideration they r natural pilots. I dont think we'll see any extended anymore
I never said Akatsuki was bad in action or Mwu for the same, but like Chillin said, quantity can equal quality, and Zaft + EA have a LOT of them. What I mean is even if Mwu might be really good or Akastuki very strong, theyre not the kind of pilots that could fend off against 20 enemies at a time like Kira or Athrun does.
Chillin
08-10-2005, 04:32 PM
The odds are a little more stacked against AA and Eternal than in the last war. They have a whole force with the sole intention of destroying them unlike last time where it was just Dominion's job. They have to fight superior pilots than the ones in SEED. Considering in SEED it seemed they were pretty stacked as well with three ships, Meteor, Justice, Freedom, Strike, Strike Rouge, the Astrays, and Buster and they still had quite the hard time bringing an end to the battle. This time they have S-F, I-J, two ships, Meteor, Akatsuki, DOMs, Gaia, and whatever Mu pilots.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 04:34 PM
Well ... they (Orb+Clyne Factor) in Seed did fine against EA and ZAFT at once. But now, their power has increased. Orb only had what those girls in Astray and SR? Now Orb has 100+ units + an upgrade with having Akatsuki. Clyne didnt have much except Eternal, now they have 3 DOMS+Gaia. Yes ... Justice and Freedom got an upgrade for the better ... and who knows about the meteor. Mwu's MA that he was piloting was pretty slick, and is an upgrade over strike IMO. So when u really look at it, THAT IS STACKED!
BattousaiMS
08-10-2005, 04:42 PM
Erm ZAFT and LOGOS will still have more units then the 3 ship alliance. Your looking at the wrong way:
Kira has to take on, Rey and Dundiel who both have super MS.
Athrun has to take on Shinn.
Cagalli has to take on Luna (guessing that gonna be their all female spothlight match).
AA and Eternal has to take on those whole ZAFT + EA ships, which includes Minerva on ZAFT side and Guirty Lew on EA side (we don't know if Kusanagi will appear). Note that Eternal isn't a battleship it's a Carrier.
The Murasame + DOM Trooper team + Mwu + Andrew has to protect AA and Eternal from the 1000s of conventional MS that will be on them.
So no they won't be stacked. Clyne faction won't have that many ships either, I am guessing Voltaire (Izak's ship) plus maybe 2~3 other Nazca class ships.
So no having Izak and Dearka on the 3 ship alliance side won't overstack them, if anything it will make their battle/goal more possible. They did the same in Gundam X.
Chillin
08-10-2005, 04:43 PM
ZAFT's power has increased as well with their mass production suits and their Gundams. They also have overwhelming numbers in comparison to AA and co. Also it was not the intention of EA and ZAFT to annihilate the Three Ships Alliance in SEED. Certainly they were a huge threat, but EA and ZAFT were more concerned about each other. This time ZAFT is gunning for them with the sole purpose of wiping them out. I think it's pretty even at the moment. AA and co. have more pilots and suits that mean a damn, but ZAFT has the numbers plus a fair share of powerful suits and quality pilots.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 04:53 PM
Ya i know that EA and ZAFT have more numbers than ORB+Clyne Factor. Like Chillin said, it's essestially a battle between quality and quantity. And so far, i can tell that quality>quantity. I mean, how many units were deployed to take down Minerva on epi 12? Same can be said when Orb+EA tried to take down Minerva. Numbers dont really do much in this serie IMO.
From what ive heard, it's gona be:
Shinn vs Athrun = close combat
Rey vs Kira = funnel
However, ive also heard that on epi 43 Athrun>Shinn ... so big whoop there. And if they drag it into space, IJ will be equipped with Meteor (even better)
From my guess, i think Kira>Rey bc Kira will have SF's funnel + Meteor + endurance (NJ)
So if Shinn+Rey goes down? Who is left to protect ZAFT? If by any chance Legend+Destiny retreats (like when Destiny retreated), Kira+Athrun will just go into the battlefield and take out the small fries. If Kira can destroy 25 Goufs+Zakus in 2 mins ... the battle shouldnt take long
I also heard that the moonbase will be defeated and along with the EA's force, and that is the end of the LOGO and Djbril. So the EA will be prolly be out of the battle. If that is the case, again the ZAFT will be hurt in their numbers bc of the casulties
Chillin
08-10-2005, 05:06 PM
From my guess, i think Kira>Rey bc Kira will have SF's funnel + Meteor + endurance (NJ)
Pfft, S-F alone is enough to take care of Legend. Adding Meteor might be overkill...or maybe not since Kira faired better against Rau after Meteor got wasted (Meteor gives you a lot of firepower, but your mobility gets shot as a result).
I think AA and co. will win, but I think they have an uphill battle in front of them. It won't be a walk in the park. Dullindal has to fail in his plans at some point (and Shinn to an extent), and that will be the time.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 05:09 PM
Freedom+Meteor had to evade/block Province's funnel. While doing that, it was pretty much on the defensive zone. HOWEVER! With SF with its funnel, it can play defensive and offensive (funnel). I think the reason why Kira didnt do so well with the Meteor against Klueeze is bc he was distracted with Flay
me_is_david
08-10-2005, 05:15 PM
Haha when I said "Two METEOR's..forgot to mention those <_<"
Was just to everyone because they seem to forget the fact that there will be two more units lol
But yeah, those things could make all the difference. Like in SEED no one could touch Freedom and Justice with their units. Only Providence.
The only way I would not see it as being stacked is if Destiny, Legend and Impulse prove to be amazing in that fight.
Which I would not mind at all because I really think they are good pilots.
If Rey is as good as Raww then he can probably easily beat one of the METEOR units.
And Shinn is basically the best pilot in ZAFT.
I guess its not too stacked, but yeah this all started because people thought if Yzak and Dearka switch it'd would/wouldn't be stacked. I think it would be though, however I still believe Shinn and Rey can hold their own with pilots. Well Shinn at least.
He can very well take out every single suit out there except for Strike-Freedom and maybe Infinite Justice. I don't even think Shinn can be taken down very easily by those two either. Maybe 2v1 but 1v1 I doubt it haha.
I guess it depends how you look at it lol.
EDIT: For soem reaosn I don't see Impulse being in the picture lol.
I get the feeling Lunamaria will switch sometime soon.
Maybe in the middle of the big battle or something
Chillin
08-10-2005, 05:15 PM
Can S-F release it's funnels while docked with Meteor? Or can it have the funnels released indefinitely? I know with a lot of other suits that had funnels/bits they had to return to the suit to be recharged after a while.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 05:20 PM
@Chillin:
Um .. i duno. See the thing is we dont know if there will be an upgrade on the Meteor. So to answer that, if it is the same Meteor that was used in Seed, then i dont think the funnel could be used. But ya...
@David:
Shinn may b the ace in ZAFT but you even heard from Gill that Kira is the ultimate soldier. Hence Kira is the ace in the serie ;) or at least that is the way i think of it
BattousaiMS
08-10-2005, 05:22 PM
Don't think SF and IJ can use the meteors anymore. From the look of ep 39, it seems the Meteors have become part of Eternal's weapon. In SEED Eternal couldn't use those units. I think Lacus will control those 2 units from Eternal kinda like big funnels (thats the more probable idea).
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 05:24 PM
In the OP ... you see SF in a meteor >.>
Chillin
08-10-2005, 05:25 PM
S-F and I-J can definitely dock to the Meteors. It was shown in the OP.
BattousaiMS
08-10-2005, 05:29 PM
Even if they put in there I wouldn't bet on it. The first one where you see Freedom docking with a Meteor is the old Freedom, in the scene after when you see it shoot looks like SF (gold plasma cannon in the chest), for all we know it's the animator trying to fool us.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 05:33 PM
That's pretty farfetched ... i thought that scene is something to forshadow SF and IJ being equipped with Meteor. And if the Meteor is s'ppose 2 be a funnel ... that's pretty big like u said urself, so basically it shouldnt be a hard target to hit. But i guess we'll have to wait and see
Freija
08-10-2005, 05:54 PM
I think its been well established that Kira with his Ultamate Co-ordinator New Type ablilties is the best pilot ever, plus its seems that japanese kids these days like god-like robot like characters have about as much depth of character as my pet rock :laugh i shouldn't make fun, Mr Rock has shown numerous times that he has a sense of humour by throwning himself into the backs of peoples heads (Mr Rock I love you). Anyway enough of my ranting.
I'm really dying to see how this series ends, i dont want it to end as a fan fest with all the characters people like surviving (:sad cuz then Shinn would die lol) and plus i there would be no surprise to it. Heres hoping Mr Writer gets some balls and kills of a character people that doesn't rank low on the ladder. I've not gotten over Hiene getting killed after what? 3 episodes, what a waste of a funny character plus he was in the intro for 12 episodes.
hmmm.... i hope that guy that reminds you of a rock is Shinn...
and the guy you hope to die is probably Kira ? am i right ?
O-ushi
08-10-2005, 06:26 PM
I doubt that Mu would be using that mobile armour, its proberly still docked in the Girty Lue with the EA. If anything he'd be using a Murasame or a rebuilt Strike Rouge, it would be nice if it was Strike gundam with the Gunbarrel Striker pack, too bad its MSV though:amuse .
dh19440113
08-10-2005, 06:27 PM
I think you guys forgot about andrew bartfeld's gaia, he can contribute as well.
Orb also has its fleet of astray and muresame, not to mention kusanagi.:wink
Mu will possibly get the hand me down strike docked on Eternal.
me_is_david
08-10-2005, 06:38 PM
haha well i didnt forget about andy
I think he will be able to hold it together pretty well
he has an agile suit...maybe the most agile battery suit next to Destiny.
Plus he is a good pilot so he will do alot lol
as for Neo/Mwu, I say he will pilot a Strike.
Since well, its still there. missing all of its limbs...but its still there :laugh
if not Strike then I guess Andy's Mursame?
there isnt really anything he has left....if he gets the Exass or Windam I'm gon be like WTF?
But I would like to see him back in his Windam though :smile-big
Chillin
08-10-2005, 06:45 PM
I say they'll probably repair the Strike Rouge and keep Kira's program/colors so Mu can pilot it without looking like a wuss on the battlefield. Him getting his custom Windam back would be cool, but Kira ripped that thing apart. They didn't bother taking the wreck up to AA. Unless he finds one amongst what used to be EA's moon base he won't be piloting one of those.
Donkey Show
08-10-2005, 06:47 PM
Wasn't that other captain of the Murasames controlling the Andy's Murasame already in episode 40?
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 06:48 PM
I think ur talking about Kisaka
Freija
08-10-2005, 06:55 PM
ya because Andy got Gaia it seems Kisaka took over his Murasame. btw isn't it weird that the MS is named after a famous swordsmith ? Murasame that is.
Chillin
08-10-2005, 06:59 PM
Every time I looked at the Murasame I just thought it was like a mix between the M1 Astray and the Zeta, and the Murasame name I didn't think of the legendary swordsmith. I thought of Four Murasame from Zeta. Just had Gundam on the brains.
Kereo
08-10-2005, 07:05 PM
I thought the famous swordman was Muramasa.
Freija
08-10-2005, 07:08 PM
I thought the famous swordman was Muramasa.
hmm he was not a swordsman XD, but you got the name right, but if i don't remember wrong he called his Daitou(the sword that got famous for its cutting ability and got known for having demonic powers, yes the one Kyo uses it existed in history atleast. i could rabble the story for ya but this isn't the place.) Murasame.
Chillin
08-10-2005, 07:08 PM
Actually it was Muramasa. Murasame was a sword
Eh, posted at the same time
ssouske
08-10-2005, 10:31 PM
wow... 4 friggin pages in just a few hours... you guys are nuts! :amuse
ok... its late but here is my opinion on the yzak thing...
first of all, how would we know that ORB will completely tag along with the clyne faction? cagalli might order a few units and maybe kusanagi... but i can't see the whole ORB army backing AA+lacus in space because ORB itself will need protection since it is a war... and they have lost a huge amount of units during the battles in the suez, etc... I completely agree with chillin that quantity can = quality... no matter how many suits kira, athrun, DOM Troopers, Mwu, Cagalli, Andy, and all of them can take out, they will always be against a swarm of grunts... and they will definitely have a hard time... why a swarm? think of it this way... ZAFT and EA are composed of many nations/countries... while the lacus faction is a private group backed by a eurasian country and ORB... private group vs armies of all other countries... you get the picture... now with this in mind, the faction can never be over stacked... because they will definitely more since, as chillin said, they are being targeted by zaft unlike in GS...
next... i think S-F cant use the funnels while docked in METEOR because the wings are folded... unless S-F can deploy them while folded, i just think kira can't...
lastly, the OP features S-F and I-J... the animation was recycled from GS... what else can you expect from this reused scene series?
ok now we just need to wait for 43 for confirmation on these things...:amuse
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 10:47 PM
^ actually ...
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/5870/17vn.th.jpg (http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=17vn.jpg)
U see SF+meteor
Son_Pan
08-10-2005, 10:53 PM
this is totally offtopic. and y'allz will probably/most likely ignore this post anyways, but for NOW!
]LOL, hilarious thread, JH, the one in your sig. lol. i gotta give props to that dude for speaking his mind. lol. what a guy! :laugh
ok, on with the thread!
edit: happy 18th birthday, Mith
me_is_david
08-10-2005, 11:00 PM
well now after watching most of 42. I now know what they are saying lol
For some reason when Lacus gave that speech to Athrun and he was looking up at Justice, they then switched to Shinn and him looking up at Destiny.
The impression I got from that is that I think they're trying to show us that the speech was directed toward Shinn as well.
Somehow I see Athrun giving it to Shinn, which makes Shinn hesitant
but good old Rey comes in and snaps him out of it again lol.
Rey is weird now, he seems so cruel. He tells Luna that she is just a hindrance and shit. I was like WTF? lol
I'm starting to lose my liking in Rey =/. He is manipulating poor little Shinn so much lol. Most of the actions Shinn has done was because of Rey's words. Rey is like his best friend so I would be surprised if he went again them.
although this has been said many times...the DOMs are sooooooo cool lol.
I want one ^_^
I really want to see a convo between all of them. I wonder how Kira will react if he hears Shinn's story from Athrun.
Also I wanna see how they'll react when they realized they have met eachother.
Although we already know how they'll react lol..I wanna see it.
Chillin
08-10-2005, 11:18 PM
From what I've heard Cagalli's speech also fills Shinn with serious doubts about Dullindal, but Rey also comes and talks his talk and Shinn is once again back where he started as a fighting puppet.
Chopstickx
08-10-2005, 11:20 PM
then he does his 'lil manipulation trick again =S
Chillin
08-10-2005, 11:23 PM
I'm so sick of him. Every time Shinn is about to get a brain/clue/development/whatever Rey comes and shoots it all down. I seriously hope Shinn runs his sword through Legend at the end, this time actually hitting the cockpit.
Chopstickx
08-10-2005, 11:27 PM
yeaa, i feel exactly the same. just seeing that look on his face in 42 already made me feel the hate i have for him right now.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 11:32 PM
NO!~ We need Shinn to be the antagonist! There was a debate if Dearka+Yzak switch sides = stacked ... but if u add Shinn = OMFGAFWA!@#R!#@%!% stacked! Besides, it was cool seeing SHinn vs Kira. U guys cant deny wanting to see a Shinn vs Athrun :smile-big
What more can u expect from Rey? Afterall, he has some family connection with Klueeze. I always thought that Rey was the son of Klueeze, if that is the case; like father like son.
@SP:
haha i was lmao when i read it. Too bad my name wasn't mentioned ._.
Chopstickx
08-10-2005, 11:34 PM
yeaa...the whole lot of them. Klueeze, Rey, Dullindal, hmm who else?... :oh
off-topic:
@JH - and what would you do/say if you were mentioned? >_>
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 11:39 PM
OT:
I'm sure uve seen what that guy wrote ... TOTAL randomness = halarious. So ya, i dont really care what he writes bc in the end ill be lamo! I envy those ppl that were mentioned in a wierd way lol. Dont get any idea that it has to do with my fetish/infatuation. It's my sense of humor ;)
U prolly enjoyed as much as everyone did ... right? :)
Chillin
08-10-2005, 11:43 PM
I'm going to assume Kira defeats Shinn at the end, and goes on to fight another guy (Dullindal/Fortune?). Kira is losing and Shinn comes in a damaged Destiny and saves him. I think Kira vs. Shinn would be too weird of a final battle and seemingly anticlimactic. Shinn is just a pawn in all of this; he's very useful, but a pawn nonetheless. He shouldn't be the "big gun". As much as I want to see Shinn fight alongside them for a battle or two, you're right in saying that most likely won't happen, he'll probably just hit a very last minute turn around.
Son_Pan
08-10-2005, 11:44 PM
JH- LOL! u WANTED to be mentioned? lol. wow.
the only thing stoping shinn at THIS moment, towards becomming a better person, is Rey. dammit, Rey needs to like, leave the minerva or something, i dont know, hes always trying to put words into shinn's head. that bastard!
from those previous talks Athrun had with shinn, like waaay in the beginning, Shinn was ALMOST there. forgot what turned him back, though. but still, i have hope for him.
Chopstickx
08-10-2005, 11:50 PM
@JH - hahh yeaa i get yaz. i found it funny to read too. while i was reading through it i had a sudden urge to be mentioned like you too lol.
and i totally agree wiht you S_P. hes holding Shinn down o_- poor guys been manipulated by 2 people at once lol. but yeaa, i wouldnt want Kira vs. Shinn to be the last battle either =\ i want something bigger to happen.
Jh1stgen
08-10-2005, 11:52 PM
@Chillin
IMO Kira dont really care about Shinn compare to Athrun. I think like everyone said so far that Athrun still believes in Shinn and wants to persuade him. Athrun knows Shinn is just confused and feels sympathy .. maybe even empathy.
Rey has beef with Kira bc he killed Klueeze who is a possible father to Rey. And it is realistic that it's Rey vs Kira bc Rey was the one that found out Kira's weakness.
It just make more sense bc
close combat vs close combat DestinyvsIJ
funnel vs funnel SFvsLegend
I think Fortune might be true. Isnt it odd that Rey didnt really care if Legend was about to be given to Athrun? Maybe in the end Rey was s'ppose to pilot Fotune. By maybe currently it's still in the construction stage. I duno, my 2 cent
@Chopx: lol ... some ppl there that was mentioned didnt even do jack to him or even knew he even existed on the forum. So i thought i was a possible candidate. O wellx
Son_Pan
08-10-2005, 11:53 PM
i dont want kira to kill shinn in the end. Athrun should step up and be like, "dont kill him" or something. i think i already explained that theroy before, so i'll leave it at that. i am expecting something bigger though, like u said, chopps. most of the storyling, MOST of it, is because of Dullindal. somethings gotta happen to him in the end.
Chillin
08-11-2005, 12:03 AM
S_P I didn't say Kira should kill Shinn, I just said he'll most likely defeat him. As much as I would like Athrun vs. Shinn and Kira vs. Rey because drama wise it makes sense, they still seem to be building towards Kira vs. Shinn in space. Also an eventual confrontation between Kira/Lacus and Dullindal is likely whether it be in a mobile suit or not. I can see Dullindal spouting his crazy ideals to Kira and Lacus. Telling them Shinn and Meer were just mere (whoa) substitutes for them and how they should come join him in his ambitions.
Chopstickx
08-11-2005, 12:09 AM
^yea im looking forward to the Kira//Dullindal meeting, should be interesting.
hmm i just wondered about something...7 people died alone in SEED 49. do y'all think something similar could happen at the end of Destiny? =| cuz you never know...Dullindal could just like kill a bunch of them off in the end for all we know :oh
Chillin
08-11-2005, 12:28 AM
I don't think as many people will die at the end of Destiny as in SEED. I see the big major characters living through it. It would be kind of dumb to end the SEED storyline with a blood bath. We've already seen that many times in Destiny, and I'm pretty sure we'll see it again once Dullindal attacks EA for the final time. It should stop right there, and once he goes to attack AA and co. he sees that their minds are one, and they fight truly for freedom and justice and all that ideal and moral stuff that really hasn't shined through yet in Destiny because of all the dark story.
Son_Pan
08-11-2005, 12:31 AM
A majority of people think he will be killed by kira. thats what most people are wishing for, i was just saying it, for the heck of it, to revise my idea. hahaha.
also, i dont understand why a kira/dullindal confrontation would happen. there isnt really a point...other to ask him why he targeted lacus. the rest is for lacus and dullindal to discuss, and perhaps cagalli, as well.
Chillin
08-11-2005, 12:36 AM
Well I'll put it like this. On Dullindal's chessboard, Kira is the white king and Lacus is the white queen. If Dullindal hops in a mobile suit, he will most likely run into Kira and they will have a clashing of the minds (sort of like Rau and Kira in SEED only Kira is more mature now and Dullindal isn't outwardly psycho). If he doesn't I still think he will have an eventual conversation with Lacus. If it is face-to-face you can almost assure that Kira will be there since Kira couldn't trust Dullindal as far as he could throw him. Dullindal also had/has an interest in Kira's power and potential, as he alluded to in episode 36.
Jh1stgen
08-11-2005, 12:49 AM
I think if there's a confrontation between Gill and Kira ... it should be similar to the one with Klueeze and Kira. Gill has background knowledge of Kira, and it could be due to the fact that he specialize in DNA. The covero might lead to the point where more shocking things could be relieved ... which is what im hoping.
If that doesnt happen, i can see Rey and Kira.
Chopstickx
08-11-2005, 12:54 AM
yup verry eeenteresting. i could just see Dullindal revealing the whole Destiny plan to Kira and stuff. im still curious about what that is, there was like DNA stuff written all over. someone suggested that its a person, like Shinn or Rey...but that would be stupid of Shinn was a "Super Coordinator" at least its stupid imo =\ Fukuda needs to put more originality yunno?
Jh1stgen
08-11-2005, 12:57 AM
From what i could make out. The destiny plan is just a proposal for gene manipulation. It consisted a chart of oraganisms, and one of them includes human, basing on their capacity of age. There was a question in the page that says,"Is gene manipulation possible?" So im guessing that the recessive traits/or unwanted traits was the main focus in that book
Son_Pan
08-11-2005, 12:58 AM
^which reminds me of the many many rip offs he did. *AHEM* AHEM*
anyways! i was just wondering, chillin, this is a bit on the offtopic side, but yeah, i was thinking back to your giant collection, and i forgot to ask you why you didnt have escaflowne :(
Chillin
08-11-2005, 01:00 AM
Oh I have Escaflowne, it just got cut off on one of the pics. I'll pull out all my boxes and snap a shot of it. I even have the LE figure that came with the box.
Son_Pan
08-11-2005, 01:05 AM
yay! im looking forward to the pics, glad to know you have escaflowne. its one of my top 5. <3
also, im very curious to know how long it took you to build up that collection.
Chopstickx
08-11-2005, 01:11 AM
yeaa im wondering too, i mean it is pretty big lol. makes me think you have connections or you just "have your way" with getting them :wink ahah
yo JH, you got any collections you'd like to share? lol
oh and for reference this was the pics of his collection he showed us:
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=1704171&postcount=1349
me_is_david
08-11-2005, 01:23 AM
Chillin: I never realized it lol but damn you have a lot of shit
That probably cost easily a couple thousand rite? lol
Then again no tax in MD so I guess its cheaper? lol...not really but yeah
I dont even think they have enough people to kill off in if they wanan match SEED 49 lol
People who might die IMO:
Rey
Gilly
Talia
Arthur & Minerva Crew
Djibirl
DOM pilots
and I think tahts about it lol...maybe Shinn and Lunamaria but that would be gay if they died.
Chillin
08-11-2005, 01:53 AM
Here it is, my camera skills suck
Tried to get a shot of everything
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/6094/dsc000881lb.th.jpg (http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000881lb.jpg)
Then tried to get close-ups (Escaflowne is in there and I just realized I need to dust the place where I keep my Zeta box)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/4317/dsc000895xw.th.jpg (http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000895xw.jpg)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/3408/dsc000906dr.th.jpg (http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000906dr.jpg)
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9881/dsc000915ca.th.jpg (http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000915ca.jpg) most are complete, the ones that aren't haven't finished release or have been released in the past two months, been saving up for Otakon but I'll just do my catching up there, it isn't much I really need to catch up on
Maryland has a 5% sales tax david
me_is_david
08-11-2005, 02:15 AM
wait wut lol... when i bought stuff there i didnt get tax... plus my parents like going there cuz it has more asian food and there's no tax lol
i know VA is 5% ... beh iuno lol
and I once again say holy fuck
so off topic but oh well... nothing really to talk about anymore anyway
lol I have never seen so many boxes...although some of those are like the ones that come witht he first volume right?
but yeah... haha many boxes..although I'm used to seeing a large number of DVD's
EDIT: okay yah I think they do then lol... I was always told they didn't hahah
that made me look like an ass... I know they dont have some type of tax...car tax or something I duno..anyway yeah...im dumb :)
Chillin
08-11-2005, 02:21 AM
I got all of these first DVD with the box except maybe Escaflowne, Trigun, and Evangelion. Those were complete boxsets. All the rest I had to fill in as the DVDs were released.
ssouske
08-11-2005, 03:55 AM
@ Chillin: as i have said in the past, OMFG! THATS A HUGE HUGE COLLECTION!!!:amuse
ok... now my thoughts on shinn... i don't want to see shinn as the antagonist through the end... i kinda like his character... he may have lacked in the character development area but i still like him... so i want him to go and switch sides... if he does not switch sides, I see him dead in the end... which I really do not want to see as GSD's ending... if he should die, maybe he should die while killing rey or gilly in an uber powerful MS/MA... i want to see him doing that sword lounge attack vs rey/gilly...
ok... i've been thinking... could djibrill pilot an MS? maybe a souped up version of destroy... something that could resemble providence for genesis... a powerful MS for the weapon of mass destruction... its just a thought though...
Jikes
08-11-2005, 05:46 AM
LoL Chillin! you really do like your anime dvds, either that or you have too mcuh money on your hands. I only have the Samurai Champloo box set, Scryed Box set, and Kenshin OAV box set, i'm relatively poor and i only tend to buy anime that i really really like.
back to the topic, I really want good a dramitic ending, I was disapointed with seeds ending, i really want it to get across the point that war never ends good and that all that fight in them get screwed by it. I'm really not looking forward to the idealistic bullshit and coming from the Eternal's side, they preach about not killing people and that war is not the way to find peace but then they go and fight in these wars. Oh shit I'm ranting again :laugh sorry i can't seem to stop it these days. I'm still so very very traumatised from watching this show.
ssouske
08-11-2005, 05:49 AM
^
Jikes... your an australian but you sound just like a republican...:laugh just kidding...:laugh
Freija
08-11-2005, 05:50 AM
JH- LOL! u WANTED to be mentioned? lol. wow.
the only thing stoping shinn at THIS moment, towards becomming a better person, is Rey. dammit, Rey needs to like, leave the minerva or something, i dont know, hes always trying to put words into shinn's head. that bastard!
from those previous talks Athrun had with shinn, like waaay in the beginning, Shinn was ALMOST there. forgot what turned him back, though. but still, i have hope for him.
i talked about this with my friend for like a week ago or something, and i also agree, if Rey(the emperor) dies Shinn(Darth Vader) will probably be turned over to the good side of the force again.
i just had to put Shinn as DV >.<
edit:and HaroTori released ep 42, i wrote the link in GSD download thread.
Chillin:my collection stands of like DVD 1 and 2 of GSD, the full Hellsing and Hellsing manga 1-6 >.< compared to you thats like, very little, how much money did you spend on your collection really O_O amazing
Jikes
08-11-2005, 09:48 AM
^
Jikes... your an australian but you sound just like a republican...:laugh just kidding...:laugh
republican? is that a politcal party? if so which one? I know your only joking and i did laugh but i'm just wondering where you got it from because idont know what the american political system is like or what each side stands for.
WOOHOO finally HaroTori release episode 42, now I can Justice in action, i have this sudden feeling my Athrun fandom is going to come right back at me.
to Itachi: who said Shinn is a bad guy and Kira and co ar the good guys :laugh if you ask me me Shinn is the good guy, Killing logos, fighting orb, taking on Kira and co, he's good in my books, lets just hope he kills the whole cast of the old seed and then i'll praise him as my god.Yes i'm being sarcastic, but get this, in war there is no good and bad, just opposite points of view.
3rdStrike
08-11-2005, 10:47 AM
Well yea... Republican is where George W. Bush belongs too... so yea..
I just wish that DESTINY doesn't having a crappy ending i.e. no more Athrun x Cagalli.
In addition to what you guys are saying, Shinn is character that kinda have to die... in a glorious way you know? Like the end, he'll finally understand what he did was completely wrong; remorse greatly and die to save PLANT and EARTH from some MASS DESTRUCTIVE weapon that Dijibril and Dullindal have been building...
Chopstickx
08-11-2005, 11:06 AM
^lolol that was cold 3rdStrike :laugh
hmm heres some new model pics:
MSiA Strike Dagger (http://www.tamashii.jp/mia/ms/193.html)
MSiA Infinite Justice Gundam (http://www.tamashii.jp/mia/ms/194.html)
EMSiA Zaku II (http://www.tamashii.jp/mia/ms/ex_mia/08.html)
Lord Of Byston Well Vol. 1: Dunbine (http://www.tamashii.jp/sic/vol01.html)
KIA Keroro Gunsou (http://www.tamashii.jp/etc/keroro_05.html)
KIA Giroro Gochou (http://www.tamashii.jp/etc/keroro_04.html)
ssouske
08-11-2005, 12:09 PM
republican? is that a politcal party? if so which one? I know your only joking and i did laugh but i'm just wondering where you got it from because idont know what the american political system is like or what each side stands for.
uhm... 3rd strike beat me to the answer... yes... the republican is a political party in america... usually when the president of US is a republican, usually, us will go to war...:amuse just like now... and in the past...:amuse im not an american so i dunno most of it but if i reffer to my world history (w/c is very ironic here in the philippines because we only study about phil and US history and almost none of european history:P ) it does show that US goes to war when a republican is the president...
ok none of that political BS...:amuse
Im just wondering... who in hell would buy an MSiA strike dagger... if i would want strike daggers in my display, i'd buy the cheaper NGs/1st grades... same thing with the astrays, murasame, GhOON, BaCUE, and prolly the LeGOWE, GiNN, DiNN, and CgUE... the only exemption would be the ZAKU warrior/phantom, gouf, and DOM Troopers... i'd get the 1/144 HGs of those... especially the DOMs... im gonna get 3 of those... JET STREAM ATTACK!!!
Chillin
08-11-2005, 12:35 PM
I just wish that DESTINY doesn't having a crappy ending i.e. no more Athrun x Cagalli.
In addition to what you guys are saying, Shinn is character that kinda have to die... in a glorious way you know? Like the end, he'll finally understand what he did was completely wrong; remorse greatly and die to save PLANT and EARTH from some MASS DESTRUCTIVE weapon that Dijibril and Dullindal have been building...
Yeah I like the sound of that. At this point I actually think it's likely to happen in some way or another.
Hmm, the MSiA I-Justice doesn't look too bad. The beam rifle is way too big though. Ah well, that's why I'm building mine instead :amuse
Son_Pan
08-11-2005, 12:39 PM
chillin: LOL! yay! you do have escaflowne. and king of bandit jing!! damn, i thought i was the only one who saw that. lol!
hah, i dont have no collections of manga or any series. all i got are spirited away and my neighbor totoro on DVD. lol!! but still, you have alot of my favorites! and thats super cool.
-----
did someone say republican?? lol. i guess jikes could be one. but FYI, jikes, the republicans are a result of George W. Bush. I, as a Democrat, am wishing for a democratic president to take office in 2008.
oh! right, to answer your question, a political party is like a group of people who are in favor of specific rights for the people/economy. some are the Democrats, Republicans, Independent, or Green party. hm, thats about right. but whatever. lol, dont want to get into politics, i'd go all out. :S
on a side note: taxes, budget deficit, etc, the causes for gas to be 2.70 a gallon round here. :sweatdrop
btw, thanks for those pics, chopps.
me_is_david
08-11-2005, 01:38 PM
gas prices suck period.
I'm almost at 3$ a gallon lol
I wonder who actually buys the MSiA... they seem alot more expensive than regular build-it-yourself models
but eh...oh well I always make my own lol so I dun care
It's not like I'm going ot touch it ever again XD
random question.....there's no release date for Gundam SEED Destiny in US yet right?
I would assume it would get released after Gundam SEED: Special Edition
which would finish releasing aruond December if it follows the usual --every two months one dvd release, thing.
if thats true then
GS:SE 1-Aug, 2-Oct, 3-Dec
My friend got volume one at his shop...I wonder if I should borrow it lol
Has anyone seen Special Edition? and is it worth watching agian :laugh
Chillin
08-11-2005, 01:47 PM
Yeah from what I've heard GSD will start release at the end of the year. If it goes like the release of SEED we will see 2 DVDs every 2 months with the exception of the first and last volumes.
Jh1stgen
08-11-2005, 02:39 PM
yo JH, you got any collections you'd like to share? lol
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/3953/14cj.gif (http://imageshack.us)
So to answer ur question ... nope
Chopstickx
08-11-2005, 03:04 PM
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/3953/14cj.gif (http://imageshack.us)
So to answer ur question ... nope
dang, you got a nice room, it pwns mine ._. is that a balcony i see? :oh
man you're so lucky, you're computers in your room...with net connection too o_- that was a moniter right? the thing that got cut off? :S
heh, a lotta trophies, what're they for? >_>
and only collection i have in my room is this shelf with manga on it, still collecting too.
Son_Pan
08-11-2005, 03:05 PM
LOL! whaaat? what the heck? is that like, some kinda virtual tour of your room? LOLz. thats uh..interesting.
you know whats CRRaaazZY though? your room color is the same as mines. lol! funny.
but anyways!
lunamaria-chan
08-11-2005, 03:47 PM
Well About Asucaga: There was comotion on Animesuki just this day, a lot of People complained about something in the spoiler thread... All of those people are AsuCaga fans... and the ones arguing with them are your typical Meyrin fans
Akirou
08-11-2005, 03:56 PM
Well About Asucaga: There was comotion on Animesuki just this day, Anime a lot of People complained about something in the spoiler thread... All of those people are AsuCaga fans... and the ones arguing with them are your typical Meyrin fans
that's just typical. It's always an arguement/war over there about who deserves Athrun.
I want Athrun and cagalli to stay together (DUH!) for the main reason they symbolize something IMPORTANT and all that developement would've been WASTED.
Meyrin fans are just there because they are being attacked (somewhat) by certain AsuCaga fans, which is understandable since AsuCaga fans (the rabid ones) believe she's some sort of "threat" to the relationship. I mean, episode 45 spoilers state that Cagalli and Meyrin have a talk and to pay attention to Cagalli's left hand.
I think Meyrin's adorable, just for the record. xD
Chillin
08-11-2005, 03:59 PM
Didn't realize she had fans...oh yeah...episode 36. I like Meyrin, but she doesn't deserve to fudge up two of the original characters' relationship.
Inquisitor
08-11-2005, 04:01 PM
Yes i'm being sarcastic, but get this, in war there is no good and bad, just opposite points of view.
Umm, do you realize how wrong you are? Are you gonna sit there and maintain as your point of view that in World War II the Allies were not fighting the good fight against the Axis powers? Certainly you could bring up the fact that the Allies bombed cities (Dresden as an example), but that doesn't alter the ultimate balance of the scale.
Now in Destiny it is also clear as to who is good and bad. Obviously, Blue Cosmos is being portrayed as evil, but that doesn't make Dullindal good. Rather, he has been consistently presented as a villainous fellow, and his actions speak to his Machiavellian schemes. Who then is good? Why the Clyne Faction of course.
usually when the president of US is a republican, usually, us will go to war...
Let's see, Woodrow Wilson wasn't Republican and he took the US into World War I, Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a Democrat and he took America into WWII, Truman was a Democrat and he took us into the Korean War, Kennedy and Johnson (both Democrats) drew the US into Vietnam. Also, in the 90s Clinton took the US on several military expeditions, such as one to Somalia.
I realize that this is a thread about Gundam SEED Destiny, and so I apologize for this post.
lunamaria-chan
08-11-2005, 04:05 PM
And I'm hating the fact the Thread closed because of that...
-Aeriolewinters
ssouske
08-11-2005, 04:38 PM
Let's see, Woodrow Wilson wasn't Republican and he took the US into World War I, Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a Democrat and he took America into WWII, Truman was a Democrat and he took us into the Korean War, Kennedy and Johnson (both Democrats) drew the US into Vietnam. Also, in the 90s Clinton took the US on several military expeditions, such as one to Somalia.
Ok... i get the picture...:amuse as i said, im not an american so i dunno much about that part...:amuse i get tidbits of info and get it jumbled up... thanks for the corrections though inq...:amuse and i thought roosevelt was a republican... drat... but one thing is for sure... during the amercian occupation of the philippines, we, the Filipinos got better treatment whenever US was controlled by the democrats...:amuse
OK BACK AGAIN TO GSD!!! arround 48 hours more till phase 43!:laugh
Jh1stgen
08-11-2005, 05:36 PM
is that a balcony i see?
No that is not a balcony ... it's my only window in my room. But i do have a balcony, but not in my room:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3900/untitled10by.th.gif (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled10by.gif)
man you're so lucky, you're computers in your room...with net connection too o_- that was a moniter right? the thing that got cut off?
No ... that is my digital camera. The comp is located in the deck.
heh, a lotta trophies, what're they for? >_>
Just sports trophy like hockey, karate, soccer, track and field and some academic awards
LOL! whaaat? what the heck? is that like, some kinda virtual tour of your room? LOLz. thats uh..interesting.
I guess u can say that lol and ya .. blue rocks =)
Chopstickx
08-11-2005, 05:58 PM
wow...reps for you Inq :oh
Didn't realize she had fans...oh yeah...episode 36. I like Meyrin, but she doesn't deserve to fudge up two of the original characters' relationship.
why wouldnt she have fans? =| i like her, but then again i dont want her to mess any relationships up just as you've stated.
@JH - well arent you special? lol. karate...>_> and nice scenery. you live in an apartment then?
hmm what a coincidence, my rooms the exact same color as yall :oh
Jh1stgen
08-11-2005, 06:07 PM
What's wrong with karate? I live in a condo
It shouldnt be a surprise if blue>>>> all color
Chillin
08-11-2005, 06:15 PM
why wouldnt she have fans? =| i like her, but then again i dont want her to mess any relationships up just as you've stated.
I like her as well, but I don't see how she would be the main threat to the relationship. I always thought Meer would be.
Chopstickx
08-11-2005, 06:23 PM
^hmm, guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens now o_-
@JH - oh dont take it the wrong way, i think its cool. it was just a joke...or it was supposed to be.
Jh1stgen
08-11-2005, 06:30 PM
^ my bad.
Chopx why dont u show us ur collection of manga? That is if u can.
Son_Pan
08-11-2005, 07:11 PM
lol another tour! seems like you live in a quiet enviornment, JH.
also, i dont see how Meyrin can be a threat. Athrun is just looking after her, cause he feels hes guilty for getting her involved. i dont want to get into a big discussion about all that though. not in the mood for it.
also, i dont find it odd that he does karate, but that reminds me of this really annoying guy i know, who tries to show off his skills, at the most randomess times. hahaha. not saying you probably do, JH. but whatever.
Akirou
08-11-2005, 07:48 PM
http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stellar8ic.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lunamaria5xe.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=meyrin5kf.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lacus9hr.jpg
http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cagalli4lv.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=athrun28at.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=athrun14hu.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kira13kp.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kira25zf.jpg
Newtype scans
Chopstickx
08-11-2005, 08:05 PM
^uhh ive already posted all those before :oh
@S_P - if you read those spoilers in the spoiler thread then you'd get me =S
and it was just a joke! lol
guess i might post my manga shelf up later tonight lol, not that much to see though.
Jh1stgen
08-11-2005, 08:20 PM
I c ur those type SP. Did u know that im sooooooooooo good at lol jk. U could say that it's a quiet environment if it was like 2 yrs ago, but now the area i live in is getting commericalized pretty fast. On the bright side, at least my place got a fitness+swimming pool ... so that cancels the bad side out.
Looking forward to ur collection Chopx
Jujubie
08-11-2005, 08:43 PM
Thank you Inquisitor. Being one of the few young Republicans it is nice to hear someone back up me up. =]
I hope Meyrin and Lunamaria make up! She, the CIC of the Eternal, will radio her sister, Lunamaria in the Impulse, and smack sense into her. Maybe Luna will be good enough to take down Rey haha jk.
Chillin
08-11-2005, 10:31 PM
If Lunamaria tries to take on Rey it will just be a repeat of Mu in the Strike versus Rau in the Providence. Then Athrun shows up because he promised Meyrin that he'd bring her sister back to her safe or something like that. Maybe that's what that whole conversation is about in 45.
me_is_david
08-12-2005, 12:02 AM
lalala im bored and have nothing to say except
lol I just DLed Rey's piano song from gendou... one of my favorite pieces of music, actually probably my favorite instrumental from Destiny
lol listening to me made me remember how I thought Rey was some like nice caring type of guy on the inside since at that point he had shown nothing.
And now look at him... one of the disliked characters in the series now lol.
and lol in the begining I thought it be nice for a Rey x Luna thing of some sort.
but oh well... Rey has down the crapper for me now lol..I don't expect him to live.
anyway.... lol ppl are liek posting up their rooms and shiet now... I would but I hav enothing to show other than mass amounts of crap.
plus me = noob with digi cams
Son_Pan
08-12-2005, 12:12 AM
LOL! what are you talking about!? type? what kind of type am I then, JH?
and a fitness/swimming area is pretty good then, i think its good for people to keep themself fit and active. hopefully you're not one of those lazy bums who dont use it. (hah, jk)
btw, chopps, still not getting that joke. lol
well, david, i can relate somewhat, i dont have any collections or anything to show, so. LOL. if i wanted to i could post my drawings, but, several devices aren't working at the moment--but thats a different story.
Jh1stgen
08-12-2005, 12:31 AM
@ David:
Holly shyt ... I just dl'ed the part with Rey playing his piano too. I think it's quite relaxing to listen to. But man, seriously talk about coincidence lol
@SP
Type as in um ... how can i put it. Relatively easy to annoy type? Especially with the part if its related to someone bragging, but dun tell me u havent bragged about something b4. So if that is the case, it's kinda hypocritical. I also realized that ur high on caffeine or somthing cus ur hyper lol (it could be just me ... i duno xp)
Well .. 2morrow ill post another virtual tour to my swimming pool+fitness. And im a jocky type ... so im not those couch potatoes or w.e
Chopstickx
08-12-2005, 12:40 AM
yall are slow, i've had that song since wayy back. lol j/k
@S_P - lol well lets just forget about it then shall we? :]
@JH - no, its you. lol shes not hyper, thats just her uhh "nature" or just the way she is i dunno lol. eheh, jocky type ey? thats niice xp
oh and uh heres a snapshot of my manga shelf:
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9430/closeup7wt.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9430/closeup7wt.jpg)
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7551/fullshot7ig.th.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7551/fullshot7ig.jpg)
you might see some #s missing. thats proabably b/c my friend borrows some too.
Jh1stgen
08-12-2005, 12:44 AM
If that's ur room with 2 computers+tv (BETTER NOT BE CABLE/SATE) or else *shakes first
And by the looks of it, it's relatively bigger than mine!
Those are some sweet collection you got there.
Son_Pan
08-12-2005, 12:51 AM
OHHH!! so THATs your computer room, chopps. lol. i can imagine you sitting in one of those seats. lolz!!! no, im kidding.
and omg! no noooo, u got it all wrong, JH. he is just the most annoying guy i have ever met, especially when he gets weird, and starts to put his arm around you like hes your best friend. at RANDOM times. lol. but the jocky type? is that where you bully innocent geeks around and tell them to meet you after school in the parking lot for a daily beating? lol! no, im joking, sorry if i offended anyone who goes through that. :(
anyways, me? hyper? LOL! u havent seen me hyper, even chopps hasnt. shes only seen like, stage 3. hahahah!! btw, chopps, nature? what do you mean by that?
Chopstickx
08-12-2005, 12:58 AM
omfg that was the wrong pic D: that was my comp room lol. i was only gonna show S_P that really. and yea its cable JH x] but of course thats not my room, with the phone, TV, and 3 comp... with cable too :S lol thats too good to be tru.
but just for reference, my comps the one thats on the left, by itself, it got cut outta the pic. its near the jean jacket rolly chair.
@S_P - lolzz. if he was like that then man, shame on you *tsk tsk* but yeaa, you might be offending someone...-coughcough- >_>
and yeaa if you've seen her stage 3 like i have then you wouldnt wanna know the final one :laugh no offense of course lol. and uhh, i just ment like thats just the way you are really, like naturally or something lol.
Chillin
08-12-2005, 01:13 AM
Nice collection you got there Chops.
Speaking of manga...Bandai had said they were going to start up a manga division, but I haven't heard anything about that since Feb. I was hoping this would be the chance we got to finally see more Gundam manga and novels over here.
Chopstickx
08-12-2005, 01:29 AM
^ehh me personally, i dont like the Gundam mangas. i dunno, maybe its the art =\
but yea, ive checked out the SEED manga before, and their translations were different. it sounded kinda fruity sometimes imo >_>
like when Freedom joined up with AA in eps 35, he said something like "I'm on YOUR side now!" its like "wth when did he say anything like that? =|"
but yea...maybe its just me.
dh19440113
08-12-2005, 04:05 AM
Reply to ssouske and Jikes. off topic:
The Republican Party stand for the right wing conservatives of America. They consist of the Rich land owners and corperate titans mainly due to the tax incentive they get when republican take office. Republican also includes the rural community in American heart land, because republican stand for conservative value, anti stem cell research, antiabortion, antigay marriage and protestant teaching in school. When a republican is in office they tend to spend alot of money and put the economy in recession, because they are big spender yet they believe in cutting taxes. They believe in trickle down theory economy, by cutting taxes for the rich, the rich will invest and bring new jobs, however that never happen. The rich usually pocket extra money they earn:laugh .
Republican likes to take control, republican party members are at the forefront of the cold war and its nuclear race against the soviet, because they believe them to be evil, and if they are evil we must defeat them. They are no compromises. Quote from bush, "You are either with us, or your with the terrorist."
Republican wasn't alway like this, when Lincoln found the republican party it stand for abolition of slavery, and equal rights.
:wink
The Democrat of America are polar opposite, They stand for liberalism, freedom of choice and left wing politics. Democrats consist of middle class america living on the east and west coast (There are 5 times more people per state living on the coast than the heartland state, example California, new york, washington, Hawaii, new jersy, pennsyvania, etc), the minority community African America, Hispanic, Asian, and Gay community. When a Democrat is in office we have great economy. Rosevelt and the new deal pulled us out of the great deppression, Clinton administration gave us the market econmomy boom of the 1990's. The democrat believe in bigger government and education programs for our children, social security for the poor, universal health care and highter taxes to balance our budget. :thumbs The democrats also stand for civil rights and affirmative action for minorities, liberal views toward a woman's right to choose abortion and Gay rights. The democrats are tolerant of the multi religion environment of America, and does not impose protestant puritan values on others. That is why the Minority community, the poor and the Queer love democrats. :laugh
Democrat use to stand for slavery in the south during the civil war under william Jefferson Davis.:mad
dh19440113
08-12-2005, 04:34 AM
offtopic:
Because, the war in Iraq is taking american lives and tax dollars. :mad
I hate to be in recession, alot of people i know lost their jobs and are now living on welfare.
I miss the great clinton economy boom.:S
me_is_david
08-12-2005, 04:36 AM
^holy shiet lol wtf...damn dude lol
you wrote alot....but yah I'm a democrat lol
I'm not even gon touch that though lol :laugh
and yeah...rey's piano song is very relaxing haha...I stumbled upon it while looking for Samurai 7's songs.
lalala I'm bored...its 3:30am...I should sleep
byebye
(that was so off-topic/random but who really cares? lol)
Jikes
08-12-2005, 05:34 AM
Chillin! I laughed when i first read what ou said about me but after reading more about republicans i am sort of insulted :laugh dont worry i never took its to heart.
Umm, do you realize how wrong you are? Are you gonna sit there and maintain as your point of view that in World War II the Allies were not fighting the good fight against the Axis powers? Certainly you could bring up the fact that the Allies bombed cities (Dresden as an example), but that doesn't alter the ultimate balance of the scale.
i'm sorry Inquisitor but did you just indirectly call me a Nazi? I simply gave a very general view on war and your calling me a Nazi! How dare you say i'm wrong! If your one of those "republicans"(i've learnt a new word:laugh) who thinks by standing by America that your always on the side of right, dont be ignorant, there is always two sides to war, remember this! America, your country, was the major supplier of arms to the german forces in WW1 and only turned against germany at the last legs of the war because they blew up a U.S. ship that was inbetween british and german forces, so please drop it, I dont want to have to bring up Nagasaki or Hiroshima or Tokyo.
I'm also not saying Dullindal is a good guy but rather he must have some reason to be waging war and as we dont know it yet we cannot truly judge him as of now, but when we do know his motives Judge him however you like I dont care! I would also like to know how Shinn is a bad guy? sure he follows a military leader but thats like saying every Zaft soldier is evil.
do I sound republican still? i'm not sure :laugh
If you were just joking Inquistor I will glady take what I said back!
dh19440113
08-12-2005, 05:51 AM
Jikes, you emcompess radical ideas from both spectrum, but your no Nazi.:laugh
Yes, America did play both sides in WW1,(the shipment of arms to germany was seized by british blockade and bought by britain), but at the time America and Britain weren't as friendly as they are now. Germany, America and Britiain was in an arms race and everyone wanted the big gun (Dreadnaught).
It wasn't until the INTERNATIONAL TREATY FOR THE LIMITATION AND REDUCTION OF NAVAL ARMAMENT in 1922 that tension eased between US and Britain. WW2 made them official allies.
Jikes
08-12-2005, 06:26 AM
wow dh you know your stuff! thanks for you explination of WW1 and the other stuff, i'm not sure if you ruined my arguement or not so i'm just going to smile and nod :smile-big
ssouske
08-12-2005, 08:16 AM
can we now go from american politics+history back to gsd?:amuse were soooo getting really off topic now... 24 friggin hours left for the raw...:laugh
Jikes
08-12-2005, 08:25 AM
can we now go from american politics+history back to gsd?:amuse were soooo getting really off topic now... 24 friggin hours left for the raw...:laugh
:laugh you did sort of inadvertantly start the politics thing! but then again I was the one who took it further, then everyone else joined in.
After finding out today that there is no Bleach or Naruto manga this week i was really pissed but now that i've remembered that the next episode of GSD is tommorow and that Justice and Arthrun will be doing stuff i'm stating to feel better.
Could somebody give me the name of the song Rey plays on his piano, i realy want to download it.
Mindless
08-12-2005, 08:35 AM
can we now go from american politics+history back to gsd?:amuse were soooo getting really off topic now... 24 friggin hours left for the raw...:laugh
Yeah, I'll second that. Want politics: Take it elsewhere. This is the gundam forum, not the Republican Battleground or something.
On a more gundam related note: The RAW will be out in roughly 24 hours, looking forward to it so much. Hopefully we will finally see Athrun doing something instead of just watching, or hardly even trying. Also, I am very curious to see what Cagalli will broadcast on television in order to halt the battle (even if only for a moment).
Chillin
08-12-2005, 01:01 PM
Jikes I never called you a Republican or anything of the sort, that was someone else. I don't delve into politics so I would never bring it up or talk about it. :)
I'm looking forward to seeing the RAW as well. I hope Athrun does something to impress me; words or fighting it doesn't matter so long as he does it with a strong resolve.
BattousaiMS
08-12-2005, 01:32 PM
I think I know how Athrun will whip Shinn's butt. Shin gonna use his excaliber sword attack and Athrun is gonna use his beam shield and trasform it to sword mode which will become a large beam broad sword (kinda like Epyon's one) and he gonna chop the excalibur sword to pieces then gonna start choping destiny's other armaments.
Why do i think this way?
I think Athrun gonna answer the ultimate question which is stronger a half beam sword (excalibure has a steel side) or a full beam sword (large beam sword out of the shield is entirely energy).
O-ushi
08-12-2005, 02:39 PM
We all know that Shinn, whenever he's goes crazy, whips out the Arondight sword runs stragiht for the enemy, thats proberly when he makes his mistake, up close I-Justice is like a chopping machine:
MA-M02G "Super Lacerta" beam saber x 2
MR-Q15A "Griffon" leg beam blade x 2
MA-M02S "Plephis Lacerta" retracted beam cannon-mounted short beam saber x 2
MR-Q17X "Griffon 2" wing-mounted beam blade x 2,
MA-M02G "Super Lacerta" lifter tip beam saber x 1
S-Freedom used its hands, I-Justice will proberly use its feet.:tem
If Shinn tries to keep a distance Athrun could just whip out the grappler and bring him back close:P
Chillin
08-12-2005, 02:56 PM
If Athrun's final opponent is Rey I can't wait to see him use all those weapons to dice up the funnels and just beat the living crap out of him.
zeheero1982
08-12-2005, 03:08 PM
Why do everyone want Rey to die? Is it because he shot Luna's sister and Arthrun for abandoning Zaft? I think you guys should Rey more credit. He is just trying to be loyal to the chairman. I think the real reason that everyone hates rey is because Rey is Raw's clone. Sigh. Give him a chance, he might turn back.
Freija
08-12-2005, 03:11 PM
Why do everyone want Rey to die? cause he is the one keeping Shinn from the good sideIs it because he shot Luna's sister and Arthrun for abandoning Zaft?that was Shinn I think you guys should Rey more credit. He is just trying to be loyal to the chairman. I think the real reason that everyone hates rey is because Rey is Raw's clone. Sigh. Give him a chance, he might turn back.
no we hate him cause he is who he is.
zeheero1982
08-12-2005, 03:20 PM
I think Rey is pretty cool, and he kind of reminds me of Trowa, from Gundam Wing, stone cold face. Besides, you can't argue that Rey is the sole person that keeps Shin from the good side. Is is like saying, Shinn never made a decsion by himself. Shinn chose to open firer at Arthrun and Luna's sister. Words alone can't make someone do something, well, not with me anyways.By the way, I was talking about Rey kept firing at Arthrun in the mobile suit docking bay when Arthrun told him that Luna's sister was with him.
Freija
08-12-2005, 03:23 PM
Besides, you can't argue that Rey is the sole person that keeps Shin from the good side. Is is like saying, Shinn never made a decsion by himself. Shinn chose to open firer at Arthrun and Luna's sister.Brainwashed by who ? Words can make someone do something, well, not with me anyways.well you and me are IRL persons and they are anime characters, they are always easy to brainwash with words I was talking about Rey kept firing at Arthrun when Arthrun told him that Luna's sister was with him.
oh ok, well anyway i hate Rey for being who he is.
Chillin
08-12-2005, 03:47 PM
Shinn is easily persuaded, even moreso than Athrun. Rey can play upon that and he knows it. He is a very crafty individual in league with Dullindal with how his words cut right to the heart of the matter. Of course it's all just lies (which is why he always interferes when Athrun talks to Shinn), and I've been hoping lately that he would get what's coming to him. If he tries interrupting Athrun again in 43 I hope Kira and S-Freedom give him a golden backhand.
santosj
08-12-2005, 03:54 PM
Damn it. It seems that when I leave this thread for a long period of time (two days, you guys are faster than the computer evolution) something really skewed rears its ugly head. I do remember some nonsense was said in the v2 by Son_Pan and was debating neg rep. It seems the focus had once again shifted into matters totally off topic and some objective reasoning should be put into play.
As the topic seems to be dead I want to raise some more information, so that things don't get off topic again. The next one may go on for four pages since the first one was only about 3 posts with no debate.
The Republican Party stand for the right wing conservatives of America. They consist of the Rich land owners and corperate titans mainly due to the tax incentive they get when republican take office.This is only half of the truth and is the perception of republicans from the democrat point of view. The part I disagree with is that you said all republicans are rich and that is untrue. The fact is that in the last election only a few states voted for democrat. I should add that in those states there were more Republicans voting than democrats to keep away from any confusion. That is to say that the minority voted for Kerry in 2004 in those states. I'm sure some Republicans in the red states voted for Bush, but wasn't enough to defeat the majority of democrats.
I doubt there are many rich people in most of the states of the US. If that were true then the republicans wouldn't win any elections because rich people amount for only 1-2% of the US population.
Republican likes to take control, republican party members are at the forefront of the cold war and its nuclear race against the soviet, because they believe them to be evil, and if they are evil we must defeat them. They are no compromises. Quote from bush, "You are either with us, or your with the terrorist."It was a republican that ended the Cold War and you must be confusing Bush with all of the republicans, because what you said is just insane and idealistic.
What he said was direct and in the case of the Middle East, is true. You appear to be listening to the Howard Dean to much.
Democrats also stand for (again not everyone is this way but I'm using your example against you): raping of animals, terrorists killing Americans and terrorists murdering everyone else.
Evidence has also came up that Democrats ignored the warnings that could have stopped the terrorists from bombing the Twin Towers. Bush isn't the only one at fault and it is the Democrat ideals and what they stand for that allowed the hijackers to not be brought to justice before they could do harm.
@Jikes: You said "Nagasaki or Hiroshima or Tokyo" in reference of talking about WWI, those events didn't happen until WWII. I will repute your claim by adding that the Nazis killed 9 Million people, ~6 million of which were Jews. You are correct with your claim that America wasn't clean of blood either but almost everyone in the war commited horrible acts of violence.
As for Hiroshima, if you were told that you could end the the war by either sending thousands of your men to their deaths or killing thousands of the enemy (even if they were innocent), then what would you choose? I'm not excusing the killing the innocents, it was horrible, but you can't say the decision wasn't a really hard one to make.
Well, since Gundam Seed Destiny has brought up WWI and WWII, I think that it is similar to both Gundam Seed and Destiny. For example: you could say that Genesis gun at the end was like the A-Bomb and sending it into the moon was like bombing Hiroshima. The bombing of the Earth would be like bombing Nagasaki, except that ZAFT didn't go through with it and was able to come to terms with the enemy because of the threat placed on the Earth Alliance.
Blue Cosmos could be the Nazis, which is what my first thoughts were when they came up in Seed. I think Destiny is more like WWI, since it is more like an arms race.
Jh1stgen
08-12-2005, 04:59 PM
OT:
http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/8045/10tk.th.gif (http://img319.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10tk.gif)
http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/2623/28aa.th.gif (http://img319.imageshack.us/my.php?image=28aa.gif)
Ok that is enuff for virtual tour for a long time!~
@SP
I have a hunch that the reason why that "annoying" guy does those wierdish thing to you is prolly he has a thing for ya (with his arms around u and all). If not, you have all the right to punch his face (or at least that i would do)
So close to raw now ... and looking forward Athrun>>Shinn
DevilB0i
08-12-2005, 05:06 PM
Athrun> shinn umm..... then who will kira fight?... Rey maybe ........
Jh1stgen
08-12-2005, 05:09 PM
You got it .... bc it's realistic that it's:
KiravsRey = Funnel
ShinnvsAthrun = Close combat
DevilB0i
08-12-2005, 05:11 PM
You got it .... bc it's realistic that it's:
KiravsRey = Funnel
ShinnvsAthrun = Close combat
U never know he can just surprise everyone and do seed on kira
Jh1stgen
08-12-2005, 05:18 PM
That's doubtful. Klueeze never went seed and Rey is somehow connected to Klueeze whether that be a father/son relation, clone of Klueeze and etc. In any case, they're related by blood.
I just have a theory about Gill. You know Gill specialize in gene? And as well with his relation with Tal? How Tal left Gill bc she wanted a "baby." His "Destiny Plan" book which is a proposal for gene manipulation? I think this put pieces of the puzzle together about his past. Gill wanted to make an ultimate coodinator, but the reluctance of Tal made it impossobile. So he prolly had the research done and etc, but the final piece was something he couldnt get a hold of. So maybe he presented that to Kira's real father, and blinded him with pride and used his wife. Maybe?
me_is_david
08-12-2005, 05:29 PM
Ah well I don't really blame Shinn for believing/listening to Rey.
Because well, say Nichol was like Rey..would Athrun betray Nichol, Yzak and Dearka because Kira said they were wrong?
I highly doubt it, though there is a chance he might have haha.
This is considering if nichol wasnt sliced up and was like Rey =P so don't no one say he never did that and blah balh.
point being ZAFT is where his home his, he has no other friends/relatives in other sides, well now he has Athrun but he doesn't know him like Athrun and Kira know eachother so he won't be easily persuaded.
He knows Rey very well...and Luna and all those people.
Rey is taking advantage of their friendship, so to speak, and trying to keep Shinn from believing Athrun.
However, if Meyrin started talking to him I think that he might be able to turn around lol.
I realized i didnt make much sense, but yeah..I was trying to say, Rey has a big impact on Shinn so I don't think Shinn is THAT gullible and easily persuaded.
side note: i took a pic of two things in my room lol...felt like sharing =D
the only anime related things i have besides models and wallscrolls..
and DBZ manga in chinese XD
http://home.comcast.net/~david.chen1/mayastellar.JPG
Jh1stgen
08-12-2005, 05:31 PM
i think im the only person in this gundam thread that dont have any collection in manga+gundam models. Feel so left out lol
But ya ... those 2 looks cool!~ :thumbs
Son_Pan
08-12-2005, 05:52 PM
JH- err. yeah, I know he does, he even told me..and said....other..things...err..YEAH! lol.
but yeah, cant get enough of them tours! they are verry interesting, and i cant believe you went out of your way to take pics and make them into a .gif! lol. seems like a nice place to live, on your behalf.
oh yeah! JH, i dont have any anime/manga. the only thing i have are 2 studio ghibli movies on DVD. so, ur not alone there. also, i dont collect anime or anything. so. whatever.
----
david, david, daivd, how did i know you would have that figure of stellar.
Well whatever, anyways, im not THAT excited about this weeks ep, but i'll DL the raw, because i feel like it.
Jh1stgen
08-12-2005, 06:00 PM
I think i had to make em into gif bc it's more convenient not to dl it to watch it. It was in a formatt of a video, so yeah. It's a good thing i went down and took some shots in the morning (often times no one comes down in the morning). Or else ppl would've thought ima crazy guy or sumthing :S
If u like the V.T ... maybe ill do some shots parts in toronto
That's a good thing to know i aint alone *phew
dh19440113
08-12-2005, 06:03 PM
Offtopic:
Apologize to everyone who don't care about politics.:amuse
Had to respond to SantoSJ
His reply was full of republican propaganda and not true at all.
To SantoSj:
I might be biased against democrat, but everything I said was true and I can find firm proof to support my claims.
Santo said:
"This is only half of the truth and is the perception of republicans from the democrat point of view. The part I disagree with is that you said all republicans are rich and that is untrue."
you responded before reading/understanding what I said.
I said,
They consist of the Rich land owners and corperate titans mainly due to the tax incentive they get when republican take office. (Republican also includes the rural community in American heart land, because republican stand for conservative value, anti stem cell research, antiabortion, antigay marriage and protestant teaching in school.)
Santo said:
"The fact is that in the last election only a few states voted for democrat."
Thats right, i pointed that out, you don't have to repeat it.
I said:
Democrats consist of middle class america living on the east and west coast (There are 5 times more people per state living on the coast than the heartland state, example California, new york, washington, Hawaii, new jersy, pennsyvania, etc), the minority community African America, Hispanic, Asian, and Gay community.
Santo said:
"I should add that in those states there were more Republicans voting than democrats to keep away from any confusion. That is to say that the minority voted for Kerry in 2004 in those states."
Bush 286, Kerry 252 electoral votes. This was a close race. If minority voted for kerry, than ohio would have made no difference on the final day of election.
Santo said:
"It was a republican that ended the Cold War and you must be confusing Bush with all of the republicans, because what you said is just insane and idealistic."
Insane, you are the one who's insane.:mad
Ronald Reagon escalated the cold war by building thousands of nukes and started the star wars program that bankrupt the soviets. What if the soviet had money, World war 3.
Santo said:
"Democrats also stand for (again not everyone is this way but I'm using your example against you): raping of animals, terrorists killing Americans and terrorists murdering everyone else."
In your dreams, thats pure propaganda.
Santo said:
"Evidence has also came up that Democrats ignored the warnings that could have stopped the terrorists from bombing the Twin Towers. Bush isn't the only one at fault and it is the Democrat ideals and what they stand for that allowed the hijackers to not be brought to justice before they could do harm."
The terrorist problem is the democrat and republican's fault, they both are held responsible.
Invading a country on false claims of weapon mass destruction is purely republican's fault.
Don't give me Saddam is evil, there are plenty of evil dictator around the world. Are we going to invade them all on false claims?:huh
To santo:
If you take your insults back, I will gladly take my words back too. :oh
Inquisitor
08-12-2005, 06:23 PM
Gentlemen, gentlemen, it has been requested by several people that the political discussion has to stop. Since politics is a heated subject, the debate could go on forever and could end up cluttering this thread. As much as I love to argue, and as much as I would love to admonish those whom I feel hold incorrect views, this is not the place to do it. In all truth, I shouldn't have added fuel to the flames earlier; moreover, I understand why people want to discuss the subject.
The long of the short of it is that this is a Gundam thread. So stop with the political stuff now. Please. Finally, I request that people do their best to avoid making political statements by drawing parallels between Gundam and current events; I realize it's tempting, but let's not open a can of worms (to use a trite expression).
dh19440113
08-12-2005, 06:33 PM
I agree inquisitor, I have no interest to continue further.
However, Santo insulted me personally, I had to respond.
Chillin
08-12-2005, 06:35 PM
Thank you Inquisitor. You always ring in at the right times.
Chopstickx
08-12-2005, 06:58 PM
wow Inq's like the dude you call on to settle debates and arguments lol.
@JH - man i wish i had a pool around my area, i love swimming =| and uhh, do you work out? :oh lol! and hmm ive never really gotten an idea about what Toronto looks like.
Jh1stgen
08-12-2005, 07:17 PM
Well ... ill take the car and give u guys sum glimpse of t-dot (toronto lol) and 1 particular thing i want to show is the CN tower. I shouldve taken sum pic on Canada's day, it was really awesome in here =)
I would've thought that u knew the answer by now >.> . Since im a jokey type, of course i workout :amuse . So my schedule is workout, then hit the pool, then go eat lots of protein+water and then sleep
ElelloN
08-12-2005, 07:54 PM
i think im the only person in this gundam thread that dont have any collection in manga+gundam models. Feel so left out lol
But ya ... those 2 looks cool!~ :thumbs
Even though Im mostly a lurker around here.
Thou are not alone!
Chillin
08-12-2005, 08:00 PM
The way we past time from episode to episode is cool, funny, and weird all at the same time.
Jh1stgen
08-12-2005, 08:01 PM
Good to know there are 2 ppl now =)
After the end of the previous war, ZAFT continued its MS development and held several competitions. The DOM Trooper is derived from the design concept of the ZAKU prototype ZGMF-X999. Like the ZAKU it's meant to be able to adapt to various combat situations by exchanging Wizard backpacks, and it can carry virtually all of the Wizards used by the ZAKU. This machine was originally supposed to use Mirage Colloid, but since the use of this technology was restricted by the Junius Treaty, the concept was abandoned.
The DOM is intended mainly for use under gravity, and large hovering units are mounted on its legs. Depending on the terrain, it can move at higher speeds than walking MS despite its bulky silhouette. But with its powerful thrusters and the special skill required for hovering movement, it proved unpopular within ZAFT, many of whose pilots had experienced combat in the GINN and GuAIZ during the previous war. It was thus removed from competition at a point when only a few prototypes had been created, while the development of simpler MS continued and the ZGMF-1000 ZAKU Warrior was ultimately adopted for the New Millenium Series.
This MS entered combat in an unexpected fashion. As Gilbert Dullindal launched an invasion of Orb to suppress Logos, the DOM and the Strike Freedom were dropped to Earth from the Eternal in order to protect Orb from the attacking ZAFT MS, which would normally be their allies. These machines were secretly produced by the former Clyne Faction, in a factory in the shoal zone where the Eternal had been hiding since the previous war. It appears that the presentation materials from the earlier competition, up to and including the production lines, somehow fell into the hands of the Clyne Faction so that they could easily produce these machines.
The "T" at the end of the ZGMF-XX09T model number is said to represent the hopes of the developers for a Third Stage of MS following the Gundam series, but the truth of this cannot be confirmed. DOM stands for Dauntless Obliterator Magnificent, a name it was given during the original development stages which does not reflect the intentions of the Clyne Faction.
* Hilda Harken, Mars Simeon, Herbert Von Reinhardt
Presently stationed aboard the Eternal and operating alongside Lacus, these superb pilots were once part of ZAFT's former Clyne Faction. After surviving the Second Battle of Jachin Due, they chose the path of Lacus Clyne, the daughter of their leader Siegel Clyne. Together with the Desert Tiger Andrew Waltfeld, they hope to guide the world onto the path of true progress. Their exquisite teamwork allows them to perform a triple attack using the quirky DOM. Mars functions as the idea man, Herbert as the concrete thinker, and Hilda as the battlefield leader. Numbers on the left shoulder and right leg of each DOM indentify its pilot, with 003 being Hilda, 004 Herbert, and 009 Mars.
http://img357.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dom9yg.jpg
Son_Pan
08-12-2005, 08:21 PM
JH-hah! i hear you, loud n clear, if i saw my neighbor snappin shots round the area, i'd be thinking, "what the hell?" Once again, good to hear you keep yourself healthy. HAH! toronto eh? i visited when i was 10. :laugh. are you seriously going to post pics? but yeah, best thing in toronto is the fruit!! i go craZZzzY. lol.
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btw, someone mentioned they had hope for rey, well! im with you! even though it wont happen, oh well.
edit: btw JH, Inuyasha x Kagome or Inuyasha x Kikyou. lolz!!
Jh1stgen
08-12-2005, 08:29 PM
I take back what i said waay back. It's not the caffeine .. it's those fruits. I should've known lol
It shudnt b a prob when im snapping pics in downtown bc ppl will think ima tourist or something .. so it shud look normal (i hope). BUT like i said b4, u dont go around snapping pics where u live (looks awkward like u mentioned lol)
Not gona give a precise timedate, but eventually =)
Well, as a guy and not trying to be sexiest or anything, I dont really dig into the relationship thing. But if i had to choose between the two, i guess InuXKag bc Kikiyo is a total bytch (her attitude that is)
EDIT: and btw .. toronto really changed compare to 5 yrs ago .. trust me :amuse
Freija
08-12-2005, 08:32 PM
Well, as a guy and not trying to be sexiest or anything, I dont really dig into the relationship thing. But if i had to choose between the two, i guess InuXKag bc Kikiyo is a total bytch (her attitude that is)
ya i agree she is a biatch, i hate her also InuXKag all the way
Son_Pan
08-12-2005, 08:42 PM
JH-LOL! fruits!? yeah right!!!!! whatever.
ook, im sure those pics will be interresting.
well, i hear you, im not into coupling like ALL THE TIME. but why kagome? i hate her. lol! but yeah, whatever. i was just curious. so anyways...
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hmm, peter reminded me that the ep is going to be out early, this time. looks like i'll have to wake up early then! ehhahaha, this is the ep when lacus makes a speech or something. oh joy.
edit: god peter! get out of our convo u weirdo!! lol. but whatever! i say kikyou and inuyasha foreverz!!!!!
Freija
08-12-2005, 08:49 PM
edit: god peter! get out of our convo u weirdo!! lol. but whatever! i say kikyou and inuyasha foreverz!!!!!
sorry i just had to butt in there :tem
dh19440113
08-12-2005, 08:55 PM
Is it ok to discuss Inuyasha, or is that offtopic and frown upon as well?:amuse
Jikes
08-12-2005, 09:01 PM
I swear to god does everyone ignore me unless i say something completely stupid or something:mad It seems that when i actually do ever say or ask something about GSD no-one pays me any attention:laugh Then again most of the stuff i say about GSD is in the second half of my posts so people have probally stopped reading them by then and have already deemed me Insane :blink
NOTE: I'm not pissed off i'm just having a bit of fun at my own expense so dont take me seriously.
*shakes fist at Inquisitor* "i'll get you one day"
THINGS ABOUT GSD I WOULD LIKE TO SAY
1. after seeing justice and arthrun in episode 42 I would like to say that i am officially an Athrun Fanboy once more, Shinn is now my second favourite character.
2. What is the name of Rey's piano piece that people where talking about before? I would like to download it if possible!
Chopstickx
08-12-2005, 09:18 PM
@Chillin - hey i think its fun lol.
@S_P - lucky! ive only been outta the U.S once, and that was for Vietnam. but ah well, 'tis fun.
@JH - hah i'd be like "wth? o_O" too if i saw some asian guy walking around the neighborhood taking snapshots. hmm so you're active in sports, even in the summer, thats cool =o i only play like basketball with some friends every sunday. sometimes football with the guys, and ocassionally some badmitton and stuff, depends if anyones using the rackets. so yeaa...you can pretty much call me a tomboy i guess.
@Jikes - uhh, sry? >_> and the songs called "Rey Za Burrel's Piano ~ Omokage." ill upload it on yousendit if you'd like.
as for the inuyasha pairings, i gotta say i like the idea of kik x inu more then kag x inu. then again, i guess they make a good couple i dunno lol.
O-ushi
08-12-2005, 10:26 PM
Is there anyone that can translate this?
http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/1478/animageseptember2005gsdspoiler.jpg
Son_Pan
08-12-2005, 10:29 PM
OOOooOOOOOOO!! EXCELLENT find, O-Ushi!! take it to that one thread. the translation board! im sure someone would be happy to. i cant wait to find out what it means, so please do!
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chopps-hm, i think you told me that once, you went to vietnam. but yeah, i've been other countries to. i love to travel, so does my family. my favorite place as of now is Paris, France, and the city of Monoco in France. but Paris was the best adventure yet. :amuse
btw, i cant believe you call yourself a tomboy! im like, shocked! lol. i'll tell u on AIM. :laugh
dh19440113
08-12-2005, 11:25 PM
I ve been to some interesting places.:)
Tokyo, Nara, Kobe, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Taipei, Vancouver, Quebec, the east coast, London, Birmingham, Paris, Lyon, Bordeaux, Vienna, Rome, Brussels, Geneve, Berlin and Bonn.
If you travel to europe, always locate the nearest restroom, there are not that many. Watch out for little kids, some of them are pick pockets. :laugh
Taipei has the tallest building in the world, taipei 101. The whole island of Taiwan can be traveled in a day. From taipei to Gaushawn then to Tainang.
In Hong Kong and china is a great place to get pirated anime, the air quality is poor, Shanghai is really wet and damp a mosquito's paradise. Bring repelent. :amuse
Japan is the place to visit in Asia, Anime, Games, Electronics, mount fuji, toudaiji temple, and Akashi kikyo bridge.
Vancouver and seattle rains alot, bring unbrellas. The lightning strikes downward between the US, canada border. :sweatdrop
Quebec has alot of french fort and everyone speck french, I also attended a Jazz festival there.
BlitzTidus
08-12-2005, 11:30 PM
I ve been to some interesting places.:)
Tokyo, Nara, Kobe, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Taipei, Vancouver, Quebec, the east coast, London, Birmingham, Paris, Lyon, Bordeaux, Vienna, Rome, Brussels, Geneve, Berlin and Bonn.
If you travel to europe, always locate the nearest restroom, there are not that many. Watch out for little kids, some of them are pick pockets. :laugh
Taipei has the tallest building in the world, taipei 101.
In Hong Kong and china is a great place to get pirated anime, the air quality is poor, Shanghai is really wet and damp a mosquito's paradise. Bring repelent. :amuse
Japan is the place to visit in Asia, Anime, Games, Electronics, mount fuji, toudaiji temple, and Akashi kikyo bridge.
Vancouver and seattle rains alot, bring unbrellas. The lightning strikes downward between the US, canada border. :sweatdrop
Quebec has alot of french port and everyone speck french, I also attended a Jazz festival there.
Quebec is cool but Montreal is way cooler :p. A lot more stuff to do in montreal than in Quebec.
PS: French rules :p
dh19440113
08-12-2005, 11:36 PM
Oh yeah, I cross the US border on the east coast to see the Niagara falls, the montreal tower olympic stadium.:tem
The canadian car speedometers shows kilometer instead of miles.
What can I say, I love to travel.:amuse
Son_Pan
08-12-2005, 11:50 PM
WHOA WHOA WHOA! geeze. JH, Chops, and I were keeping our stuff on the DL. but you guys make a big ol announcement about it :S
why do i feel as if someone is about to yell "GUNDAM ONLY!" :S
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