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Rakumaru
07-20-2005, 03:33 PM
Im gonna cry if it is a total recap episode :(

Chopstickx
07-20-2005, 05:48 PM
^its not that surprising. im sure everyone knew another recap was gonna come at us soon. but at least its the last one (or it should be o_O)

Mindless
07-20-2005, 07:27 PM
Hm... I kinda had a feeling that 41 would be a recap. Since it's named "Two Lacus'". It will probably be Athrun looking back on his relation with Lacus in SEED, and what happened with Meer in Destiny.

Episode 40 = Kick ass fight in ORB, and maybe the arrival of Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice at the end. 41 = Recap. 42 = Continuation where episode 40 ended, huge battle royale. :)

Kiba-kun
07-20-2005, 07:32 PM
Whine! A recap, with this little episodes left? Bastards.

Although, I heard a rumour around that GSD will soon change timeslot - opening the possibility for more than 50 episodes. It's currently on the prime time Saturday night slot, and will have to leave that no matter what for the series which will replace it (another big name series no doubt - FMA was before GSD). So, why else would it move from such a profitable slot if it wasn't for more episodes? Something to be hopeful about anyway!

Jh1stgen
07-20-2005, 07:34 PM
Does anyone know whether or not the chemistry and the other ending will be the last theme song for GSD?

Mindless
07-20-2005, 07:39 PM
^

Hm... Destiny is supposed to be 50 or 51 episodes like most other Gundam animes, so 4 OP/ED's is normal, but we don't really know for sure.

And what Kiba-kun mentioned is very interesting. :)

Rakumaru
07-20-2005, 07:51 PM
Does anyone think that the new starting song is not very good. Not that it is a bad song, I just dont think it is really appropriot for the start. A little to... Slow and relaxed i think.

Kiba-kun
07-20-2005, 08:00 PM
Can anyone who gets the japanese mags that have the spoilers etc in them confirm the time slot change? I hope it's not just an idle rumour...

Jh1stgen
07-20-2005, 08:56 PM
^

Hm... Destiny is supposed to be 50 or 51 episodes like most other Gundam animes, so 4 OP/ED's is normal, but we don't really know for sure.

And what Kiba-kun mentioned is very interesting. :)

I hope either they do make it longer or get new OP/Ending...

So is it from now to the end of the serie it's gona be Orb vs ZAFT? What about the EA. It's wierd bc not only does the OP dont have SF/IJ, but none that mentions the EA. So im assuming they're out of the pic now? If that is the case, i think it really sux bc:

1) EA had the blueprint of Justice/Freedom
2) Had the extended, and the highest one in Seed was lvl 4 (so i was hoping there would be above 4)
3) EA was the one that started the proto-type of gundam, so it should be realistic that they make new models
4) Again, their moonbase

Mindless
07-20-2005, 09:11 PM
EA lost the blueprints and data of Freedom and Justice when the Dominion got blown up in space. :P

That's what I think anyway. But it is as you say, it would be lame if the EA is completely out of the picture. If it's just gonna be ORB + Clyne Faction vs ZAFT, it's not even gonna be funny to watch since there wont be any surprises. :sad

Jh1stgen
07-20-2005, 09:18 PM
EA lost the blueprints and data of Freedom and Justice when the Dominion got blown up in space.

That would really sux balls *sigh

You're right Mindless ... if that is the case, there wouldnt be any surprises, just like in Seed. I mean for instance; there was so many opportunity that Kira couldve killed the 3 extended, but they dragged it for the majority of the ending. This is the same case, if they drag ORB+CF vs Zaft = boring. Ea has to be in the pic -)

O btw ... u guys agree that rather than having edit and shyt like that, they shud have like something about the past - > more info about "seed", kira's real parents, the blind dude and etc

As well, they shud have movies for gundam astray ... right? Because i dont think it's long enuff for a 50+ serie

Inquisitor
07-20-2005, 10:58 PM
Aren't newtype powers supposed to be a human achievement and not a technological device? And of course I newtype powers are just a plot device. It's a device to get Char to want to make oldtypes newtypes.

Umm, I don't see how newtype powers being a "human achievement" refutes my statement. I wasn't saying they were a technological development; I was saying that the basis for Gundam is technological development (id est, mobile suits). Also, bringing up Char is a good idea: you are correct that it did move the plot in that direction, but it took some time for his plans to get entirely in motion. They culminated in Char's Counterattack, and the ending of that movie really exemplifies why I dislike newtype stuff. Char's Counterattack was excellent, IMO, until the ending, which was just plain strange.

Mith252000
07-21-2005, 12:07 AM
EA lost the blueprints and data of Freedom and Justice when the Dominion got blown up in space. :P

That's what I think anyway. But it is as you say, it would be lame if the EA is completely out of the picture. If it's just gonna be ORB + Clyne Faction vs ZAFT, it's not even gonna be funny to watch since there wont be any surprises. :sad

Err, I believe that the Moon base also had the information but it was also destroyed by Genesis. :D

Jh1stgen
07-21-2005, 12:25 AM
Actually ... on epi 38. Yunna talks about how right they were to join forces with the EA bc not only did they have the heaven base, they had the moonbase. Therefore, the moonbase prolly got restored or something

Jujubie
07-21-2005, 12:32 AM
Umm, I don't see how newtype powers being a "human achievement" refutes my statement. I wasn't saying they were a technological development; I was saying that the basis for Gundam is technological development (id est, mobile suits). Also, bringing up Char is a good idea: you are correct that it did move the plot in that direction, but it took some time for his plans to get entirely in motion. They culminated in Char's Counterattack, and the ending of that movie really exemplifies why I dislike newtype stuff. Char's Counterattack was excellent, IMO, until the ending, which was just plain strange.

O so you don't like newtype powers because you'd like Gundam to focus on technology more than something fantastic. Eh, newtype powers don't really concern me. They're just cool and there. My wildest dream would be that Amuro and Char were actually transported into the past by their newtype powers! lol. That'd be so badass. And then the stories of Amuro and Char continue in the early days of space flight technology. Maybe they're their own great grandparents! Haha. Anyone know if there is a remake of Char's Counterattack with better picture quality?

I'm not meaning to bash Cagalli, but...omg! She is such a bad politician! Her only function is crying! She can't pilot and she can't rule a state. If she were a good politician at the beginning of GSD, then the Seirans would not be in control, Orb would not have joined the EAF, Athrun would not have joined ZAFT and they could have manufactured so many more DOMs, Gaias, Busters, Duels, Forbiddens and whatever Kira and the geniuses of Lacus can whip up if they had stayed out of the battle for a short while longer. If Cagalli were a good politician, I'm basing this argument on ep 40 rumors, she would not need to battle ZAFT if she tells Yuna: "Give me Djibril or I will f**k your nuts." Then she could request Dullindal to meet with her in order to transfer Djibril into ZAFT/anti-LOGOS hands, which would stave off danger for a couple more episodes. Then Shinn would not suit up (unless he suits up in Destiny a second after hearing Djibril's whereabouts without orders).

Anyways, I think it will be Orb and Clyne Faction vs ZAFT and anti-LOGOS EAF.

ssouske
07-21-2005, 03:16 AM
i think cagalli is just doing what she is capable... shes been head of state for only 2 years... and most of the emirs are not totally behind her... and some of them even do things that are completely out of orb's ideals... give some credit to cagalli... she has no experience of running a country, but she held on to her position and tried to assert orb's true ideals for as long as she could have... the ones in fault here are the seirans... they have the power and they abused it to become more powerful... they should have died in ongoro island in seed instead of uzumi and the great emirs of orb... and i think athrun would still have gone back to zaft regardless of how cagalli managed orb... he was worried for plant's future... he was worried that a new war might break out if he did not try to do something... he did whatever he can and unfortunately, he just became gil's pawn... hopefully, athrun can now propperly do whatever he really wants to do... and that is to protect plant, protect earth, protect orb, and more especially, protect cagalli... and kira

Chillin
07-21-2005, 03:38 AM
Jujubie: There is no remake of Char's Counterattack. The animation was freakin sweet in that movie, so I see no need for them to remake that unless they wanted to do it again and put in the Hi-Nu and Nightingale.

Jujubie
07-21-2005, 03:57 AM
lol I never actually watched Char's Counterattack. I just assumed it has the same quality as Mobile Suit Gundam, Gundam Zeta and ZZ Gundam. I like the picture quality of the SEED universe. Know where I can get Char's Counterattack?

3rdStrike
07-21-2005, 04:08 AM
I'm not meaning to bash Cagalli, but...omg! She is such a bad politician! Her only function is crying! She can't pilot and she can't rule a state. If she were a good politician at the beginning of GSD, then the Seirans would not be in control, Orb would not have joined the EAF, Athrun would not have joined ZAFT and they could have manufactured so many more DOMs, Gaias, Busters, Duels, Forbiddens and whatever Kira and the geniuses of Lacus can whip up if they had stayed out of the battle for a short while longer. If Cagalli were a good politician, I'm basing this argument on ep 40 rumors, she would not need to battle ZAFT if she tells Yuna: "Give me Djibril or I will f**k your nuts." Then she could request Dullindal to meet with her in order to transfer Djibril into ZAFT/anti-LOGOS hands, which would stave off danger for a couple more episodes. Then Shinn would not suit up (unless he suits up in Destiny a second after hearing Djibril's whereabouts without orders).

Anyways, I think it will be Orb and Clyne Faction vs ZAFT and anti-LOGOS EAF.

HOW DARE YOU BASH POOR CAGALLI! :mad
Yes she's a cry baby and pathetic at some point but she's not necessary a bad politican, inexperienced I would say.
Either way, you can Cagalli wouldn't be a good politican either if she hands Dijbril back to Dullindal. First off, would handing Dijibril to Dullindal actually turn the situation better? No. Simply because this would proove that Orb has relationships Logos, thus it really gives Dullindal an excuse or a strong reason to attack Orb, which he planned to do so at the beginning anyway since it is a very very powerful nation.

Secondly, do you think that Cagalli is able to meet Dullindal in person? Kira and Athrun will not allow that to happen first off. And even if Cagalli and the Dullindal do meet, there isn't going to be a solution either. Dullindal's goal is to get rid of Orb ASAP cared less if Dijbril is handed to him or not. He definitely won't let a 18 year old ridiculous and "stupid" politican ruin his plan.

In addition, Dijibril is a tool for Dullindal to frabicate public commotion and arouse the hatred the people have towards the Logos. Dijibril is simply a hate icon. If the public knows that he is in Orb, it will definitely create a ruckus and the sitatuation will become more problematic for Orb, Cagalli and the AA. So what Cagalli should do in order to protect Orb is to accept the fact that she screwed everything up at the beginning and that fighting ZAFT is inevitable. On top of that, she needs to understsand and assure the public that no Logo member is hiding in Orb, which I doubt she can do. (I sound contradicting don't I =\)

dh19440113
07-21-2005, 06:41 AM
Cellphone has disbanded, bummer:sad
I hope Haro and seed will stick around.

Jikes
07-21-2005, 07:55 AM
remind me never to bash Cagalli 3rdStrike, as I would defiantely feel your wrath! Funny thing is many of your excuses for Cagalli's behavior are very much the same as my excuses for Shinn's behavior, and we all now how well they convinced everyone!

Is anyone as confused as me about the motives of Zaft, i mean they actually havn't been revealed yet, but everyone is saying that Dullindal is a really bad guy just because Kira and Lacus say so, so far Dullindal has had no real connection (that has been revealed) to any of the bad things happening in GSD, Kira simply said that Dullindal was at fault for Lacus's attempted assination, This leads me really confused as to why Kira and Lacus have started to step in with thier small army as their true motives (other than to protect ORB) have not been revealed either. The whole story is either very mysterious or has alot idiodic plot holes.

dh19440113
07-21-2005, 08:04 AM
The plot of seed destiny is always under a veil of secrecy, that reveal slightly every week.:P
I miss the straight forward first Gundam seed series.:laugh

Inquisitor
07-21-2005, 08:08 AM
Is anyone as confused as me about the motives of Zaft, i mean they actually havn't been revealed yet, but everyone is saying that Dullindal is a really bad guy just because Kira and Lacus say so, so far Dullindal has had no real connection (that has been revealed) to any of the bad things happening in GSD, Kira simply said that Dullindal was at fault for Lacus's attempted assination, This leads me really confused as to why Kira and Lacus have started to step in with thier small army as their true motives (other than to protect ORB) have not been revealed either. The whole story is either very mysterious or has alot idiodic plot holes.

Look, the simple fact is that Dullindal has tried to have Lacus killed multiple times (the most recent episode being another example of an attempt on Lacus's life), and he made a fake Lacus for the sole purpose of manipulating people. Come on man. It is clear that he is evil.

Jikes
07-21-2005, 08:23 AM
Look, the simple fact is that Dullindal has tried to have Lacus killed multiple times (the most recent episode being another example of an attempt on Lacus's life), and he made a fake Lacus for the sole purpose of manipulating people. Come on man. It is clear that he is evil.

multiple times? and what proof is there of this? sure he attacked the eternal but remember that AA and the Clyne faction have been anounced as enemies for their actions against Zaft, while the AA was trying to save ORB they did indeed attack Zaft forces which by Military code disignates them as an enemy. The first time Lacus was attacked has not been linked to Dullindal YET. The whole deal with the fake Lacus is a good cause for an attempt on Lacus's life but it still hasn't been proven. You seem to think that i'm saying Dullindal is a good guy, I'M NOT, i'm saying his true intentions and evilness has yet to be revealed and at the moment he doesn't seem that bad, as Raww seemed very bad from the beginning of SEED.

Jh1stgen
07-21-2005, 08:36 AM
Well ... Gill did say,"Is this checkmate? No, there is still the white queen, Lacus." So the only thing that is in his way of his true plan is ORB+Clyne Factor. Gill and Rey had a conversation that Meer overheared about Athrun and how they should get rid of him. Of course, in the end they shot him down. Even if Athrun didnt run, I'm sure those guards wouldve brought him to Gill or w.e and disposed him. Djbril and the other Logos even said that they'll just get replaced by Gill (during the attack of heaven base). There are more evident reason why gill is evil.

Donkey Show
07-21-2005, 08:55 AM
um...I was just browsing around MAHQ
and under Chaos Gaia and Abyss they have EA production numbers listed as
RGX-01 Chaos Pilot(s): Sting Oakley, Courtney Hieronymus
RGX-02 Abyss Pilot(s): Auel Nieder, Marley Stroud
RGX-03 Gaia Pilot(s): Stellar Loussier, Riika Sheder, Andrew Waltfeld

those 3 new names..are they from Astray manga? or do these get rebuilt and have female EA pilots?
since there is apparently a EA production number.
Usually MAHQ isn't offcial since they had Nu Freedom and Super Freedom
but they add stuff if its possible to be true.

so I was wondeirng if anyone else heard about these 3 girls (I'm assuming they're girls with the names Courtney, Marley and Riika =P)
No, the only girl I believe that is in that three is Riika Sheder and she's a blind ZAFT pilot (she uses special shades to see) who was supposed to be the original operator of Gaia, like the other two names you see for the respective mobile suits. They show up in the Destiny Astray manga.

Jikes
07-21-2005, 08:56 AM
Well ... Gill did say,"Is this checkmate? No, there is still the white queen, Lacus." So the only thing that is in his way of his true plan is ORB+Clyne Factor. Gill and Rey had a conversation that Meer overheared about Athrun and how they should get rid of him. Of course, in the end they shot him down. Even if Athrun didnt run, I'm sure those guards wouldve brought him to Gill or w.e and disposed him. Djbril and the other Logos even said that they'll just get replaced by Gill (during the attack of heaven base). There are more evident reason why gill is evil.

The chess thing atm only implies that Gill sees Lacus as an enemy, which he should, as she has alot of influence and power, ad not to mention the Freedom attacking Zaft's forces. Athrun showd his intentions to defect to Gill before Gill and Rey had their chat, as Athrun had power agaist the chairman he could interfear in Gill's plans (what ever they are?). As for Djbril's comment they seem interesting, i dont remember him saying that though but it sounds like it could lead to some good plot development. What i'm saying is The line between the good and the bad had not been clearly drawn yet in GSD as all the cards have yet to reveal themselves, so we cannot justly judge people's actions yet as "Good" or "Evil" as assuming something and jumping to conclusions can make you look quite the fool when you are proven wrong. I'm planning on fence sitting until I know the almost the whole story.

After reading the first Chapter of Astray X I dont see what is actually so wrong with Candard Parrs, they talk about him as if he is defective as Raww, Candard is simply has less Ultimate than Kira's Ultimate coodinator, he isn't exactly going to fall over dead because he isn't as good as Kira.

Akirou
07-21-2005, 10:44 AM
HOW DARE YOU BASH POOR CAGALLI! :mad
Yes she's a cry baby and pathetic at some point but she's not necessary a bad politican, inexperienced I would say.
Either way, you can Cagalli wouldn't be a good politican either if she hands Dijbril back to Dullindal. First off, would handing Dijibril to Dullindal actually turn the situation better? No. Simply because this would proove that Orb has relationships Logos, thus it really gives Dullindal an excuse or a strong reason to attack Orb, which he planned to do so at the beginning anyway since it is a very very powerful nation.

Secondly, do you think that Cagalli is able to meet Dullindal in person? Kira and Athrun will not allow that to happen first off. And even if Cagalli and the Dullindal do meet, there isn't going to be a solution either. Dullindal's goal is to get rid of Orb ASAP cared less if Dijbril is handed to him or not. He definitely won't let a 18 year old ridiculous and "stupid" politican ruin his plan.

In addition, Dijibril is a tool for Dullindal to frabicate public commotion and arouse the hatred the people have towards the Logos. Dijibril is simply a hate icon. If the public knows that he is in Orb, it will definitely create a ruckus and the sitatuation will become more problematic for Orb, Cagalli and the AA. So what Cagalli should do in order to protect Orb is to accept the fact that she screwed everything up at the beginning and that fighting ZAFT is inevitable. On top of that, she needs to understsand and assure the public that no Logo member is hiding in Orb, which I doubt she can do. (I sound contradicting don't I =\)


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Chillin
07-21-2005, 12:30 PM
Dullindal is still a very crafty and manipulating individual. He is the one who shot first against Kira and Lacus. He is the one manipulating Shinn and everyone else. He is the one who wanted to dispose of Athrun because he wouldn't be of any use to him. Even if you don't think he is "evil" he has done some pretty devilish things.

He definitely has some skeletons in his closet or else he wouldn't have had his forces monitor the Mendel Colony.

SilverGoku
07-21-2005, 12:41 PM
Dullindal is just as messed up as Neo(don't remember the whole name) and Patrick Zala. Dullindal kept Athrun cause he wanted to use athruns powers for himself, but as Athrun knew more about his plan Dullindal has no choice but to get rid of him. Shin maybe being manipulated, but he still a retard for wiping out the naturals, when he lived with naturals in Orb and that even isn't his mission, his misson is to go after the Logos.

Son_Pan
07-21-2005, 12:42 PM
Oh wow. the men of seed destiny. pretty hot.

anyways, at first i thought gilbert was an intelligent chairman who wanted only the best for the world. but now that we got a peek behind his mask, he's obviously plotting something evil. although, i think hes doing a pretty damn good job at it.

O-ushi
07-21-2005, 02:37 PM
I believe we all saw Dullandal's real face when he gave that look at Talia after he gave the order to kill Athrun & Meyrin. Its amazing how he switched his face from a smile to a "Who do you think you're talking to look?" then back to a smile again.

BTW, can you guys believe that its thursday already!? It wont be long before we see a new ep of GSD again. We still know nothing more about Cagalli's Akatsuki yet, they sure put tight security around that didnt they:amuse

SilverGoku
07-21-2005, 03:19 PM
we might have to wait a bit longer, cause it seems Cellphone^2 is disbanded now, after the release of ep 39 T_T

Son_Pan
07-21-2005, 03:24 PM
hey new guy!

we dont download from cellphone. for most of us, their subtitles cannot compare to Haro^2Tori^2's translations.

but anyways

Rakumaru
07-21-2005, 03:46 PM
Ya but Haro^2Tori^2 is fast sometimes also. Seed fansubs is slow but has good quality.
Btw you guys like my new Gundam Sig ^^ (strike And Shinn)

3rdStrike
07-21-2005, 04:39 PM
Jikes and Akirou: Haha. I just had to let it out after I read Jujubie's post. GO CAGALLI!:laugh


Dullindal is just as messed up as Neo(don't remember the whole name) and Patrick Zala. Dullindal kept Athrun cause he wanted to use athruns powers for himself, but as Athrun knew more about his plan Dullindal has no choice but to get rid of him. Shin maybe being manipulated, but he still a retard for wiping out the naturals, when he lived with naturals in Orb and that even isn't his mission, his misson is to go after the Logos.

You meant Raw, not Neo.
Neo is actually Mwu, the man who makes the impossible possible. :laugh

Dullindal is messed up but quite different than Raw and Patrick Zala. Raw was messed up because of his personal suffer and Patrick Zala is just Raw's little puppet, manipulated succesfully. Dullindal is messed up, but I really don't know in what way though. At first I thought he is messed up because of Raw's manipulation back in ep 29, but after the revelation of The Destiny Plan I really don't know if it's Dullindal that manipulated Raw or Raw manipulated Dullindal or is it a plot planned by both of them. It's confusing, for me at least.

And about Shinn, you can't really say that he's a retard for wiping the naturals, after all he does hold a grudge towards Orb because of the loss of his family. I mean that is the reason why he enlisted for ZAFT right?

Back on the most recent topic I actually like Cellphone^2. The subtitles are more eligible than other subs and it's the fasest too. Wasn't there something called PhoneTap or like Cellphone^3?

Chillin
07-21-2005, 04:40 PM
My acrylic paint thinner has the product number X-20A. I can't believe I just realized that minutes ago. Raku that's the Strike Gundam

Jujubie
07-21-2005, 05:40 PM
HOW DARE YOU BASH POOR CAGALLI! :mad
Yes she's a cry baby and pathetic at some point but she's not necessary a bad politican, inexperienced I would say.
Either way, you can Cagalli wouldn't be a good politican either if she hands Dijbril back to Dullindal. First off, would handing Dijibril to Dullindal actually turn the situation better? No. Simply because this would proove that Orb has relationships Logos, thus it really gives Dullindal an excuse or a strong reason to attack Orb, which he planned to do so at the beginning anyway since it is a very very powerful nation.

Secondly, do you think that Cagalli is able to meet Dullindal in person? Kira and Athrun will not allow that to happen first off. And even if Cagalli and the Dullindal do meet, there isn't going to be a solution either. Dullindal's goal is to get rid of Orb ASAP cared less if Dijbril is handed to him or not. He definitely won't let a 18 year old ridiculous and "stupid" politican ruin his plan.

In addition, Dijibril is a tool for Dullindal to frabicate public commotion and arouse the hatred the people have towards the Logos. Dijibril is simply a hate icon. If the public knows that he is in Orb, it will definitely create a ruckus and the sitatuation will become more problematic for Orb, Cagalli and the AA. So what Cagalli should do in order to protect Orb is to accept the fact that she screwed everything up at the beginning and that fighting ZAFT is inevitable. On top of that, she needs to understsand and assure the public that no Logo member is hiding in Orb, which I doubt she can do. (I sound contradicting don't I =\)

I rushed my post so I forgot to add an interrogation of Djibril by some expert interrogator. (C'mon, they gotta have one) And then hand Djibril over. The secret is to do it quickly. She is already at Orb so she should take control soon. She does have some military backing. The reason I say soon is because that would not give Dullindal a motive to attack Orb right away else face the scorn of Talia and frowns from the ZAFT counsel. And Dullindal, being charismatic as he is, would meet Cagalli. Of course Kira and Athrun are no where to argue with her. She would have tons of security on her part (a whole fleet). And I would not have the Clyne faction anywhere in sight. Instead (althought impossible right now), I would have Lacus behind the scenes only to come out at the end to face Dullindal. Since every nation of Earth has had a person from LOGOS influence them, Orb can come out to be one of those anti-LOGOS ZAFT supporters and avoid direct war with ZAFT for the moment. Dullindal wouldn't just point a finger to Orb and say it is part of LOGOS because that would be a mistake if Cagalli does what other anti-LOGOS supporters have done and arrested LOGOS members in her nation. The key is to avoid hostilities until the Clyne Faction and Orb's factories are ready to kick butt.

And you are contradicting yourself. You dislike her for the same reason as me althought you like her enough that you avoid her shortcomings. And I don't care if she is inexperienced. I dislike her because of her inexperience. I don't know which one is worst: Cagalli ruling Orb or Athrun ruling ZAFT. Man, they should get people like Lacus to rule. She would be perfect. I think Cagalli will come to terms with the war by next episode because it is titled "The Golden Will." Her will to defend her country and her acceptance of guns. Now it's time to read other posts lol.

me_is_david
07-21-2005, 07:32 PM
Raku that's the Strike Gundam

Haha beat me to it. But yeah Rakumaru thats Aile Strike =P

Rakumaru
07-21-2005, 07:41 PM
Haha thats what i meant >.<. I was thinking Shinn , Impulse lol

Jh1stgen
07-21-2005, 08:14 PM
I was wondering why u had Shinn+Strike... i was about to point that out bc the stock u gave me had "seed," not "gsd." Thought it was ur perference.

Rakumaru
07-21-2005, 08:22 PM
Ya little error on my part, but it is still an awesome sig. All Gundam Seed Gundams anyways ^^.

Inquisitor
07-21-2005, 09:52 PM
Rakumaru, in your sig it looks like Shinn is about to get his head blown off by Strike. I approve.

;)

Also, about the whole Cagalli topic, I am of the mind that they've really torn her character down to a weeping shell of what it used to be. I hope that in the upcoming battle of Orb, that she finally returns to who she was before (you know, more than just a crying wimp).

me_is_david
07-21-2005, 10:27 PM
eh..yeah IMO
they really tore apart Athrun and Cagalli's characters

There isn't really anything fantastic, good, or smart thing they have done in Destiny as of yet.
Hopefully Cagalli will stop crying (because damn its annoying cuz it sounds so bad lol) once she gets Akatsuki.
And hopefully Athrun will finally hit something since he hit shit the whole time he had Saviour, once he gets Infinite Justice.

Jujubie
07-21-2005, 11:05 PM
I see this happening: Athrun tells Cagalli when he hears ZAFT advancing: "I never want you to cry again." Then he does his cool thing and goes look for Lacus (hehe haven't heard any rumors for his part in the upcoming episode). Cagalli, with the cries of her military, will defend Orb with her golden will. Athrun will redeem himself once he gets Mugen Justice. I'm surprised Akirou didn't get into this argument lol.

Chillin
07-22-2005, 12:17 AM
It's almost the end of the month and I'm surprised we haven't gotten any spoilers for episodes 43+.

RAGING BONER
07-22-2005, 12:54 AM
Coordinators = Humanities attempt to evolve itself genetically

Newtypes = the TRUE evolution of the race

Rakumaru
07-22-2005, 01:41 AM
Ya ~Boner~ thats sounds about right. I think we humans as a species will take steps to make us evolve again (like in seed).

Chilla- I know ive been waiting to, for the 43 spoiler.
I wanna see Cagalli kick some butt in Akatsuki, about time she took some action. But personally if I was a mobile suit piolet and I saw something that looked like Akatsuki coming towards me with a beam sword. I would be like... "..." >.>. BOOM. But if Shinn is fighting against Orb, I dont think Cagalli will be able to defeat him, unless Kira and or Athren Stepped in.
But its so gold (Akatsuki), I wanna make a model of it lol... And a model Strike Freedom, Destiny, and Infinite Justice.

Jikes
07-22-2005, 02:06 AM
I don't know which one is worst: Cagalli ruling Orb or Athrun ruling ZAFT. Man, they should get people like Lacus to rule. She would be perfect. I think Cagalli will come to terms with the war by next episode because it is titled "The Golden Will." Her will to defend her country and her acceptance of guns. Now it's time to read other posts lol.

after reading about how you said lacus would make a great leader I laughed, i really do feel like spreading some Lacus hate, she is a very manipulative person, dont worry i'm not going to go on a rant so dont bother argueing with me becuase i already know no-one is going to agree with me.

Kira is the "Ultimate Coordinator Newtype", has anyone got any good ideas for a new word to describe his power? cause that is quite a mouthfull.

Chopstickx
07-22-2005, 02:34 AM
This month's Destiny mag news
Akatsuki - Its backpack can separate and transform into a fighter.

Euclid - The MA that appeared in Phase-38. Can be used both on Earth and in space. Size front-to-back is 30 meters.

The three Dom pilots:
Hilda Harken - Michiko Neya
Mars Simeon - Junichi Suwabe
Herbert Von Reinhardt - Taiten Kusunoki

3rdStrike
07-22-2005, 03:12 AM
I rushed my post so I forgot to add an interrogation of Djibril by some expert interrogator. (C'mon, they gotta have one) And then hand Djibril over. The secret is to do it quickly. She is already at Orb so she should take control soon. She does have some military backing. The reason I say soon is because that would not give Dullindal a motive to attack Orb right away else face the scorn of Talia and frowns from the ZAFT counsel.
Sorry, but my brain is kinda slow and I honestly feel really stupid lately but do you mind clarifying how an interrogation of Dijibril would help this situation or make Cagalli a better politician? And it really doesn't matter if Dullindal attacks later or not, he still will face that scornful and skpetical face of Talia's anyway.


And Dullindal, being charismatic as he is, would meet Cagalli. Of course Kira and Athrun are no where to argue with her. She would have tons of security on her part (a whole fleet). And I would not have the Clyne faction anywhere in sight. Instead (althought impossible right now), I would have Lacus behind the scenes only to come out at the end to face Dullindal. Since every nation of Earth has had a person from LOGOS influence them, Orb can come out to be one of those anti-LOGOS ZAFT supporters and avoid direct war with ZAFT for the moment.

I guess having Lacus around would be a great idea, after all she is one of the smartest female character around. However, sorry if this is a stupid question or something, but how is taking anti-LOGO ZAFT stance going to help Orb avoid direct war with ZAFT? Dullindal's plan is to unite earth and Plant so wouldn't he be more eager to get rid of Orb if they took this stance?


Dullindal wouldn't just point a finger to Orb and say it is part of LOGOS because that would be a mistake if Cagalli does what other anti-LOGOS supporters have done and arrested LOGOS members in her nation. The key is to avoid hostilities until the Clyne Faction and Orb's factories are ready to kick butt.
Either way, Dullindal will still find a way to attack Orb as soon as possible cared less if she handed Dijibril to Dullindal or not. Dullindal is going to force Orb give up its arms and join its alliance simply because 1. Orb is pretty damn powerful for a "Neutral" nation 2. The Alliance treaty that they signed with the EA.


And you are contradicting yourself. You dislike her for the same reason as me althought you like her enough that you avoid her shortcomings. And I don't care if she is inexperienced. I dislike her because of her inexperience. I don't know which one is worst: Cagalli ruling Orb or Athrun ruling ZAFT. Man, they should get people like Lacus to rule. She would be perfect. I think Cagalli will come to terms with the war by next episode because it is titled "The Golden Will." Her will to defend her country and her acceptance of guns. Now it's time to read other posts lol.

Yea thanks for answering and telling me that I am contraditing. I Really appreciated it. But I can't help it. And you must be mistaken, misread, misinterpert or simply felt like adding something I never claim. I never said anything that implied I dislike her. More like I acknowledge her helpless and childish character and yet I am eager to see her pull herself together and start doing something useful just like how she was in SEED.
You dislike her because she is inexperience. I "dislike" (as you would say) her because she's taking too long to grasp the big picture and actually do something. That's different.

Man, as much as we all love Lacus, please do show some love for poor Cagalli.

BattousaiMS
07-22-2005, 04:13 AM
This month's Destiny mag news
Akatsuki - Its backpack can separate and transform into a fighter.

Euclid - The MA that appeared in Phase-38. Can be used both on Earth and in space. Size front-to-back is 30 meters.

The three Dom pilots:
Hilda Harken - Michiko Neya
Mars Simeon - Junichi Suwabe
Herbert Von Reinhardt - Taiten Kusunoki

So it looks like Akatsuki will be a golden version of I Justice + Savior but less powerful...

Jujubie
07-22-2005, 05:12 AM
Man, as much as we all love Lacus, please do show some love for poor Cagalli.

I don't really feel like arguing anymore cuz of midterm, but (if I did not make it clear) am putting all my prayers to see Cagalli accept big guns, slash some MSs and stop crying forever. I was just really let down by how Athrun didn't go SEED so I just don't want to see the same happen to Cagalli.

And Jikes, Lacus is just one of those characters I love to love just like people love to love Shinn or Kira for no apparent reason. If you tell me what's wrong with her I'll listen if you want to go further.

Mindless
07-22-2005, 06:46 AM
Jesus christ, damn bug on the forum. What I said was.

I pray that Cagalli will turn into her better self in PHASE-40 (Tomorrow), when she recieves Akatsuki from Kisaka. So far in Destiny, she has done nothing but cry or get angsty once she has heard something has happened. In SEED, she acted without crying or angsting, carrying out her own will, her fathers, and her peoples.

And I found these hilarious Zeta comics. Check them out:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/6285/zetagundamcomic29tw.jpg

...and...

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8792/zetagundamcomic4dt.jpg

:laugh

lunamaria-chan
07-22-2005, 06:52 AM
Kamille Looks Cute...
Lacus reminds me of one Zeta Character: Here are the Hints...
she's already got the hidden ZAFT/Zeon asteroid base, chibi red Gwadan (http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/gwadan.jpg) , and failed relationship with former ZAFT/Zeon Ace Athrun/Char bits pat down. http://forums.animesuki.com/images/smilies/heh.gif Nah, it can't be , she doesn't have a naive orphaned child-like puppet head of state in exile to play kingmaker to. http://forums.animesuki.com/images/smilies/innocent.gif

Jh1stgen
07-22-2005, 08:16 AM
So it looks like Akatsuki will be a golden version of I Justice + Savior but less powerful...

True, but even if she were to get like an amazing ms. She doesnt have the skills to pilot it nor teh motives (i dont think she ever killed a person in a ms, just missles when she went seed)

Donkey Show
07-22-2005, 08:16 AM
Ah, the story of Zeta all rolled into one chibi comic. I love that one! XD

davidsiaw
07-22-2005, 08:33 AM
Wow... leave for a few days and another debate starts.

I just thought about this in the toilet:

Athrun made up his own mind to follow Dully's every order lol! haha I mean cmon, Dully entrusted Saviour to him so he could punish the people who he thinks is wrong lol... but welll... maybe thats what it means to be a soldier. You'd rather leave it all to the superiors. Makes life easier.

Chillin
07-22-2005, 09:50 AM
Ha those Zeta comics are hilarious. They always clown the Ashamir for its ugly looks. :laugh

Akirou
07-22-2005, 10:39 AM
i'm personally shocked i never got involved in that Athrun and Cagalli arguement.


(damn u, LOVE!!!!!)


XD

But in all conclusions, Cagalli, can u stop crying for us for just ONE DAMN SECOND, and start kicking good old ass like the old days?

I'm really looking forward to seeing Akatsuki in action....if it moves and stuff i mean.
-_-

Anyway....


http://sapporo.cool.ne.jp/kiramato/R5T.JPG

PHASE-41 has been confirmed to be a RECAP episode. It's title is "Refrain" and basically it will include how Athrun was rescused and how he has to live with the humiliation and the pain. Kira makes a decision to go into space to save Lacus, whilest he asks Athrun what the future of this war may be.
Shot down by Shinn, rescued and brought to ArchAngel, Athrun endured pain and humiliation on his bed. He retraced details that led to this.
On the other side, Kira, intending to save Lacus, headed for Space. After that, Kira questioned Lacus on where this war is directed and to where it is leading.

O-ushi
07-22-2005, 10:43 AM
True, but even if she were to get like an amazing ms. She doesnt have the skills to pilot it nor teh motives (i dont think she ever killed a person in a ms, just missles when she went seed)

I wouldnt be so sure, even though Cagalli isnt a Co-ordinator like Kira, she's just as much of a natural at piloting like Kira is. Remember back in Seed when she first piloted the Skygraspers? she impressed Mu with her skills. when she first piloted Strike Rouge she did quite well and much better that Kira when he first piloted Strike.
What kept her back then though was her lack of experiance, and not to mention that she was so stubborn!:laugh

Chillin
07-22-2005, 10:50 AM
I can't be too sure but didn't Kira own Miguel the first time he piloted Strike and all he had was the armor schneiders (the knives)?

So basically Phase 41 is a recap episode with Kira and Athrun. *sigh* Well it seems like it will have SOME new material.

Son_Pan
07-22-2005, 11:06 AM
well. looks like i dont have any reason to download 41 then.

but anyways, since that newtype came out, it had spoilers in it, i dont have the picture anymore, but im sure someone will step up and translate for us peoples. until then, i guess we have to wait.

LOL. did i mention im going to have a hard time watching FF7AC. Shinn's VA does Zack's. and thats going to be SOOO weird. ahahahahh! but yeah..lol

Donkey Show
07-22-2005, 11:17 AM
Hurray for the recap. Hopefully they'll add more new scenes than actual reused scenes from previous episodes. But once again, my hopes are up, so we'll see in two weeks.

BattousaiMS
07-22-2005, 11:37 AM
http://img342.echo.cx/img342/9562/newtypekira0zo.gif

^
Can anyone make this avatar size (120 x 120 pixel).

3rdStrike
07-22-2005, 11:56 AM
Erm.. will this do?

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/401/newtypekira0zo2ud.gif

Jh1stgen
07-22-2005, 01:11 PM
Kira questioned Lacus on where this war is directed and to where it is leading.

Lacus is the real person behind the wars and have manipulated Kira to do the dirty work (like how Gill told Athrun about Kira if his power were used for the wrong use) **sarcasm chillax

Akirou
07-22-2005, 01:42 PM
From ArseneLupinIII on animeondvd.com:

Episode 41 "Rifurein" ("REFRAIN")

Athrun looks back on the past. Clip show?

Episode 42 "Jiyuu to Seigi to" ("Freedom and Justice")

Due to difference in ability, Cagalli's Akatsuki is in a major crisis with Destiny. Then Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice appear from the sky.

Episode 43 "Hangeki no Koe" ("Voice[s] of the Counterattack")

Athrun gets on Infinite Justice, goes to Strike Freedom, and fights with Strike Freedom against Destiny and Legend. Athrun asks Shinn, "What do you really want?" ("What do you truly desire?") Also, Djibril attempts to escape.

Episode 44 "Ninin no Rakusu" ("The Two Lacuses")
Cagalli interviews on the previous battle, Meer declares PLANT's opposition. Lacus appears and pandemonium erupts all over the world.

- An entry a few days ago in a certain blog supposedly described at length a new Gundam SEED Destiny insert song (a theme for Cagalli) performed by FictionJunction YUUKA, "Honoo no Tobira." ("Door of Flame")

Instruments on the song include piano, violin, guitar, and percussion.

Jh1stgen
07-22-2005, 01:55 PM
^ Nice info!

God damit...i saw it coming - Athrun giving another lecture to Shinn. The way i c it, the only way for Shinn to listen to Athrun if he beat the crap outa Shinn. Shinn is overwhelmed with cockiness and thinks that since he defeated Freedom, he is THE super ace in the world. So #@%@ ... Athrun most likely wont go seed cus he'll do his blah blah blah speech to Shinn

Laughing@you
07-22-2005, 02:11 PM
^ Nice info!

God damit...i saw it coming - Athrun giving another lecture to Shinn. The way i c it, the only way for Shinn to listen to Athrun if he beat the crap outa Shinn. Shinn is overwhelmed with cockiness and thinks that since he defeated Freedom, he is THE super ace in the world. So #@%@ ... Athrun most likely wont go seed cus he'll do his blah blah blah speech to Shinn

I still have hopes for athrun going seed and kicking Shinns butt....I think he will try to persuade Shinn into realizing to see the truth, but that won't be easy he will have to fight hard in order to do it. And the way I see it Infinite Justice is the worst match for Destiny. Infinite Justice will own Destiny with its short range weapons which make I-Justice pretty dangerous in close combat. This match reminds me of Samurai-X when Kenshin was fighting Aoshi. Cuz even though Kenshin was faster with his sword Aoshi could block his attack cuz of the short blades he had.

It will be interesting to see how Fukuda will portrait Shinn vs. Athrun part 2. And its confirmed Athrun facing Shinn not Kira, they would probably face in battle but it will end in a stalemate or somebody will be force to withdraw!


Oh and changing the subject by a mile, Anybody can tell me what application to use in order to create .gif of movies? Please!

me_is_david
07-22-2005, 02:35 PM
Well after flipping around 39
I'm hoping that Athrun can talk with Shinn, obviously he knows Shinn is confused.
Athrun seems to understand Shinn best and although they will fight. He will be the one to bring him around.
I can't wait to see that =)

also for Kira, I'm liking him alot now lol. I'm not gon let all the disliking/bashing of Shinn make me lose my liking for Kira and AA.
Since thats what caused me to dislike them in the first place.
So now, I like Shinn and I like Kira.
So you might not see me in the Kira v Shinn debate anymore =D
or not much, since I like both I can't really debate much =)
actualy I could but I'm lazy now and I just want to enjoy the rest of the show without disliking someone who isn't suposed to be disliked.

Sidenote: yeah, Shinn's VA is the same as Zacks haha =P
Maaya Sakamoto (Lunamaria's VA) is doign Aerith =)
(wow how weird..since there used to be Aerith and Zack thing too haha)

Rude;s VA does various ones for GSD
Reno's VA does Uzumi...I wanna see how that would fit lol.

I guess that would be sorta offtopic, but then agian no because its got something to do with GSD =)
this is way offtopic: Kadaj's (long haired one clone guy) VA does Shikamaru/Ginji's (naruto/getbacker)

Jh1stgen
07-22-2005, 03:22 PM
Ya we know that Athrun empathize Shinn, but Shinn couldnt give a rats ass about Athrun. Enuff with the lecture. If my any chance that Shinn switches sides, then the power of ZAFT will dramatically drop and especially for Gill. So from my perspective, I think Shinn is the antagonist

Rakumaru
07-22-2005, 03:46 PM
Ya you may be right... Maybe Shinn (if he is an antagonist) will be the one to die >.>. But I like Shinn and Kira about equal. I liked SHinn more than Kira in the beginning, but now I think I like Kira a bit more. But this isnt the place to talk about this ^^;

Son_Pan
07-22-2005, 03:47 PM
I dont really have anything against any SEED Destiny Characters. i just want the story to keep on flowing the way it is.

DAVID! thats like, SOO offtopic! and now im going off topic. lol. but i already said that maaya does aeriths voice, and aerith and and zack were a couple. :huh

but anyways...!

antoine
07-22-2005, 03:48 PM
I agree david, I also want Athrun to be the one to deal with Shinn because I don't want Shinn to be the reason Kira ends his "no kills" policy, I guess I like him more now since I don't want him dead (=D). I am eager to find out how Shinn will be changed. Kira in SEED was changed by having talks with Lacus, and I wonder if there will be a nonviolent way through which Shinn will be changed as well, though I seriously doubt it (don't we all). I always wanted there to be a spirited conversation between Shinn & Athrun/Shinn & Kira because well Kira is better with words than Athrun because he even made Athrun pause before slashing his Saviour to bits.

I also agree with what someone previously said that Freedom will just be taking out mass amounts of mobile suits because so far the only ships they have are eternal and damaged AA. It's back to the way some of us love, good ol' outnumbered Kira.

Rakumaru
07-22-2005, 03:52 PM
Kira's new Freedom is like 1 mobile suit x (how many funnels there are). Kira outnumbered, or Zaft outnumbered O.o (btw I love Strike Freedom lol)

Akirou
07-22-2005, 04:02 PM
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6674/akatsuki9zt.jpg

Hagi
07-22-2005, 04:05 PM
o_O akatsukiis a badass looking MS but it doesn't seem to have a beam shield

im liking the custom beam saber to :spaz i can't wait till the subs out on monday

Rakumaru
07-22-2005, 04:05 PM
Nice picture, looks like blueprints O.o. Cant wait to see that MS in action. And Akatsuki doesnt need a beam shield. It is so gold that lasers just reflect back at the person who fired it >.>

3rdStrike
07-22-2005, 04:09 PM
and this



http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/65/65/f977f12de0c8317220f62853603bd957.jpg



Doesn't it look like strike?

Freija
07-22-2005, 04:09 PM
hello everyone long time no see >.< im on a vacation just got hold of a comp :D, soooo whats up in here ? any new spoilers for ep 43+ out or something other exciting ?



also for Kira, I'm liking him alot now lol. I'm not gon let all the disliking/bashing of Shinn make me lose my liking for Kira and AA.
Since thats what caused me to dislike them in the first place.
So now, I like Shinn and I like Kira.

hahahha good joke there thisbedavid ? :P so no more Kira bashin' from you ? niiiiiiiiice *reps*

tyron
07-22-2005, 04:19 PM
i just finished watching ep. 39, strike freedom is soo cool...esp. with those DRAGOONS or whatever you call it. can't wait for ep. 40...hope there's some character development in the next episode, i hope to see Cagalli kick some ass with Akatsuki, coz all she did was cry in the past episodes of Destiny...I hope see Yzak and Dearka back in action....

Mindless
07-22-2005, 04:36 PM
Wow. Lots of cool features on Akatsuki.

Can put the beamsaber at the front of the rifle, turning it into a bayonette. Can turn the backpack-flyers weapons into a beamcannon.

Hopefully Cagalli will be able to put all of this to use, not just fly around with it looking like a big chunk of gold flying around in the sky.

And by the looks of it, I think the actual shield can be thrown and used as a weapon.

Freija
07-22-2005, 04:40 PM
Wow. Lots of cool features on Akatsuki.

Can put the beamsaber at the front of the rifle, turning it into a bayonette. Can turn the backpack-flyers weapons into a beamcannon.

Hopefully Cagalli will be able to put all of this to use, not just fly around with it looking like a big chunk of gold flying around in the sky.

And by the looks of it, I think the actual shield can be thrown and used as a weapon.
wooooooooot ? is the ep out ? or did you find info at some other place ? *i haven't had a comp for like 4 days now, on vacation so im alittle after :D*

Mindless
07-22-2005, 05:16 PM
^

Check the pictures posted above... duh... :P

Akirou
07-22-2005, 05:31 PM
http://product.bandaivisual.co.jp/web_service/images/b_image/BCBA-2122.jpg

thisbedavid, that's for u.

Mindless
07-22-2005, 05:37 PM
Ooooh, nice. DVD #8 cover looks sweet. But still... the whole Stellar x Shinn thing was just bogus.

Sorry to break your heart thisbedavid. :P

Akirou
07-22-2005, 06:31 PM
41 Refrain
Athrun parted with Dullindal's vision. Unable to stop his pursuers, Athrun was shot down but then was saved by ArchAngel. While enduring humility and pain, he looked back to the past trying the find the true mastermind of all that had happened. On the other hand, Kira flew to Lacus's side because she was in danger. While worrying desperately about Lacus, he asked his dearest friend. To where will this war lead the future...

42 Freedom and Justice
ZAFT's invasion of Orb intensified. Cagalli, piloting the new Akatsuki, fought to protect her country with her life. Appearing before her is a determined Shinn with er life. Appearing before her is a determined Shinn with Destiny, who said "I'll strike at Orb myself". Cagalli was in danger because of the great differences in strenght. She was saved in the critical minute, and this person is...

43 Voice of Counterstrike
Kira was fighting hard against Destiny and Legend. At this time, Athrun cleared all his doubts, and rushed in with the new Justice. On the other hand, Cagalli returned to Orb safely, and replaced Yuna and started to command. After the battle ended with Djibril's escape to space, what action will Cagalli now take...

44 Two Lacus's
Meer began broadcasting in an attempt to hinder Cagalli's speech. At this time, the real Lacus appeared in front of the camera. Lacus's words, "Please do not fall for the trap of words any more", shook the whole world. The same moment, Djibril tried to turn back the tide. He aimed the Satilite Reflector Cannon "Requiem" at PLANTs.


*takes out confetti*

zeheero1982
07-22-2005, 07:00 PM
and this



http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/65/65/f977f12de0c8317220f62853603bd957.jpg



Doesn't it look like strike?

Is it me or does it look like a combine version of impulse, freedom and justice all put together? Strange looking mobile suit. I wish Cagalli is a better pilot, I know Shinn is going to owned her, but I wish she put up a good fight. I can wait to see Kira shocking both the zaft force and Shinn, I bet Shinn's face will be wtf, I killed ya. I hope to see some newtype powers.

antoine
07-22-2005, 07:28 PM
I swear Cagalli better not be owned next ep mainly cause IT'S EP 40 FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. I like Cagalli and how she gets emotional and cries but we all know ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Anyways, if she gets owned, then her father's (right?) gift will just be in vain.

Son_Pan
07-22-2005, 08:11 PM
LOL!

OH SNAPS! now thats what IM talkin about. lol. im lovin it! i want to see Futari no Raksu. raksu? rakusu?--whatever! reminds me of that episode, "lacus strikes back"

anyways, its getting interesting. looking forward to the lacus ep the most. thats too funny.

Rakumaru
07-22-2005, 08:40 PM
Wow. Lots of cool features on Akatsuki.
Hopefully Cagalli will be able to put all of this to use, not just fly around with it looking like a big chunk of gold flying around in the sky.


I think that is one of the reasons it is so gold >.>. No jk lol, Cagalli is a very good piolet, she just needs to get her act together a bit, and maybe go seed again ^^

Chillin
07-22-2005, 08:45 PM
Kira fights against Destiny and Legend at the same time for a bit, and then Athrun comes in I-Justice and helps?! Wow, so much to look forward to. And after such a shitty last day at work these spoilers bring a smile to my face.

O-ushi
07-22-2005, 09:00 PM
I read from another site that Akatsuki has "mirror coating", to counter beam weapons. Isnt that awsome or what! This was from a traslation of the text in that Akatsuki Picture a couple of posts back.

Chopstickx
07-22-2005, 09:06 PM
heres a different version of those spoilers Akirou posted from a different magazine if anyones interested:

DHM (DENGEKI HOBBY MAGAZINE):
http://www.zeonic-corps.net/informa...ngeki_hobby.jpg

41 Refrain

Parted with Dullindal's ideal and was shot down by his pursuers, Athrun was saved by ArchAngel. In the midst of humility and pain, he looked back in the past to find the mastermind of all this...
On the other hand, Kira flew again because Lacus was in danger. Desperatly, he asked Athrun what the future will be like as the war escalates.

42 Freedom and Justice

The Orb Force was completely suppressed by ZAFT's attack. Cagalli's Akatsuki went up against Shinn and Destiny, who launched on the reason of "I'll strike at Orb myself". But danger loomed in the face of difference in strength. Just when she was about to be shot down, S-Freedom appeared in the sky, as well as I-Justice...

43 Voice of Counterstrike
Determined, Athrun piloted I-Justce, and headed for Kira's S-Freedom, which is engaging Destiny and Legend. Athrun asked Shinn "What exactly is your true wish?" However, in the middle of the battle, Djibril planned to escape...

44 Two Lacus's

Posing as Head of Orb, Cagalli held a press conference on the previous battles, and the PLANT side countered with Meer's statements. However, Lacus, who finally made her appearance and posed as the real thing, placed the world into a state of confusion. Dullindal, as well as Djibril, continued to act while holding their own thoughts.

staradderdragoon
07-22-2005, 09:28 PM
holy cow. 1 week gone and 20 pages of posts.....so random, i was searching thru the pages, did someone pos tthe preview of 40?

Mindless
07-22-2005, 09:49 PM
Gah! Just got off some big action in Lineage 2, and trust me, it hurts:

:P

(WARNING! BIG IMAGE!)

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4431/shot002926kk.jpg

That's how it can look when getting killed by the biggest alliance on the server. Hurts!

Anyway, off to something less off-topic.

About 10 hours left to the RAW, where we finally will see Cagalli sortie in her new Akatsuki. I wonder how well she will handle it, since it seems to be a very advanced suits with lots of special functions and abilities to transform into different things.

Hopefully, she wont just be deadmeat when faced with the ZAFT forces, but actually be able to do something, not just stand and watch.

Chillin
07-22-2005, 09:51 PM
Don't worry, she'll do great until Shinn comes. Then he'll probably do some slicing and dicing to ORB forces until he reaches her.

Freija
07-22-2005, 10:04 PM
i hope Kira and Athrun pounds the brainwashing away from Shinn, it would be cool if he switched side before the last ep(a la Yzak) so we can see dullie-chan alittle atleast alittle miserable...

Chillin
07-22-2005, 10:11 PM
Yeah when Yzak went all "OMG I've been stupid this entire time!" and helped out Dearka he freaking owned those druggies.

staradderdragoon
07-22-2005, 10:12 PM
HAHA. and rey miserable too right?

Hunter
07-22-2005, 11:14 PM
Hello I am new here. Anyway regarding Shinn's defection I certainly hope that does not happen. If Shinn truly believes what he is fighting for then I do not see any reason why he should defect

Freija
07-23-2005, 12:18 AM
Hello I am new here. Anyway regarding Shinn's defection I certainly hope that does not happen. If Shinn truly believes what he is fighting for then I do not see any reason why he should defect
The reason that his belives goes against his other believes by destroying the world ? that good enough reason ?
Yeah when Yzak went all "OMG I've been stupid this entire time!" and helped out Dearka he freaking owned those druggies.
btw i do wonder, anyone counted all the times Athrun and Kira actually had a chance to shove a beam sabre up the druggies butt in GS ? was like atleast 3-6 times...

Chillin
07-23-2005, 12:28 AM
I think Shinn's desires and what he is fighting for is not really what Dullindal or Rey wants, and to that end he's just being manipulated.

Hunter
07-23-2005, 12:56 AM
Originally Posted by Uchiha_Itachi_
The reason that his belives goes against his other believes by destroying the world ? that good enough reason ?

That's why I said "if he believes". Anyway how do you know Dullindal wants to destroy the world? His "Destiny Plan" seems appropriate for the current situation as stated in the show.

Chopstickx
07-23-2005, 02:51 AM
Shinn's Path (Recap) [nuuu, 2 recaps now??]
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=shinn.jpg

Athrun's Path(Recap)
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=athrun.jpg

New Gundam Ace Ranking
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=ranking.jpg
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=ranking2.jpg

Art--Kira and Athrun [this one's kinda *cough*...>_>]
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=art1.jpg

Art--Colored Page of GSD: The Edge Manga
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=art2.jpg

DVD#8 and Official Guidebook #2
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=athrun.jpg

Booklist
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=books.jpg

Tranding Cards
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=cards.jpg

Interview with Auel's Voice Caster (he lazy to translate, though i dont blame him...)
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=interviewa.jpg

Interview with Sting's Voice Caster (he lazy to translate)
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=interviews.jpg

MISC scans...
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=misc1.jpg
http://paintedover.com/uploads/show.php?loc=23&f=misc2.jpg

Rakumaru
07-23-2005, 03:49 AM
Hunter I see what your saying. I dont really read the spoilers so I do not know if the destiny plan is bad. By what I hear it sounds like a good idea. Unite the world together for the first time ever. And then everyone will become a Coordinator eventually thats jist of what it is I think... Does not sound to bad, at some point in the seed universe, most people will likely become coordinators (this is long after we stop watching the show though). But when Lacus, and her gang found the plans, they had a bad look on their faces. So I think this may mean that he plans to wipe out alot of people but I dunno. Dullindal does a very good job to make the viewer trust him, like a good 'ol' politician lol.

Hunter
07-23-2005, 04:36 AM
Actually we still do not know. All we have is the note found in Ep.39, so it is all just speculation except that "it seems proper for the current situation".

Originally Posted by Rakumaru
But when Lacus, and her gang found the plans, they had a bad look on their faces. So I think this may mean that he plans to wipe out alot of people but I dunno.

But that can also mean that Dullindal's goals will go against their ideals and objectives. I have never seen them dub their enemies "evil", they only disagree with them.

Originally Posted by Rakumaru
Dullindal does a very good job to make the viewer trust him, like a good 'ol' politician lol.

Actually this also applies to Kira and Lacus. Those who fight them are instantly called a villain.

ssouske
07-23-2005, 06:26 AM
Right now, I think shinn can go either way, but the end result will never change... he can be the bad guy to the end and die, or he can deflect to Kira's gang... whether shinn deflects or not will only change small details of the ending... as we all know, we would usually see that the heroes win in the end... thats sterotypical but that is how the end goes everytime... if fukuda thinks he can score tons of cash by killing kira and his gang and let Gil win the war and control the universe, i think he will make GSD one of the worst gundam shows to date because people want good endings... especially since GSD might probably be the last CE Gundam...

As for shinn, i think shinn is totally confused on what he is fighting for... all he knows is that he wants to end the war ASAP... the only problem is that he is only presented one option by gil... and that is to eradicate everyone that is against their path to their so called "peace." now why in hell would i say he is confused? well there is the athrun factor... shinn really never knew athrun's true intentions or his goals... and as he and rey were pursuing athrun in the gouf, shinn hesitated and wanted to know why in hell athrun is "betraying zaft again." unfortuanately for atrhun, rey seems to have a stronger bond with shinn... well for obvious reasons...:amuse

I want to post some more but im running out of time... damn...:amuse maybe ill post later...

O-ushi
07-23-2005, 08:04 AM
Its kinda hard picturing Orb eventually winning against Zaft. Orb's army consists of M1 Astrays, Murasames and Akatsuki whilst Zafts army contains way more than that. Despite Eternal and Archangel and S-Freedom and I-Justice will be helping out, I cant really see how Orb would win if the S-Freedom will duking it out with Legend and I-Justice against Destiny. Unless S-Freedom quickly disables Legend so that S-Freedom can do its infamous "13 Beam rainbow attack" to disable all the mobile suits.

O-ushi
07-23-2005, 08:19 AM
Sorry for the Double but I thought it would be be better if i posted the spoilers seperately:P

http://dat.2chan.net/18/src/1122110910452.jpg


http://dat.2chan.net/18/src/1122110565807.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/azurelight/akatsuki.jpg

http://dat.2chan.net/18/src/1122110689916.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/azurelight/akatsukiaction2.jpg

From animsuki

Donkey Show
07-23-2005, 08:29 AM
Sweet, doing a little railgun action there! Can't wait to watch it!!!

I also am loving ORB's MOS. So pretty. ^^

Freija
07-23-2005, 08:53 AM
AHHHHH DIE YUUNA YOU B**CH DIE DIE DIE DIE YOU ****** thank you for those screencaps O-ushi *reps*

edit: anyone else that can't connect to saiyaman.info ?

Mindless
07-23-2005, 08:59 AM
OH MY F***ING GOD !

Jesus! Thoes pictures are sweet! And it really looks like Cagalli will be kicking ass! Go girl! Finally we will be able to see her great side once again! :laugh

Uchiha: Same for me, can't access the page.

But really, I got to say, Akaktsuki is so much more like Hyaku Shiki than I ever imagined. Just look at that gold color, and then that kanji letter on it's left shoulder (Hyaku Shiki has one letter on each shoulder, but I don't know what it means).

Damn, I want the RAW now!

Kiba-kun
07-23-2005, 09:04 AM
Oh wow. Akatsuki is one of the best MS designs in GSD yet - equal with the almighty Destiny Gundam, no less.

I REALLY hope Mwu gets it, because Cagalli's such a waste.

O-ushi
07-23-2005, 09:04 AM
Akatsuki Beam Reflection? Whoa!
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1829/akatsukiaction5md.gif

from animesuki

Freija
07-23-2005, 09:05 AM
Oh wow. Akatsuki is one of the best MS designs in GSD yet - equal with the almighty Destiny Gundam, no less.

I REALLY hope Mwu gets it, because Cagalli's such a waste.
i think mwu will get some other MS or he will not remember anything until the last scene in the serie like waking up screaming "MURRUE!!!!!!! I REMEMBER" and then it fades to black :D

Akatsuki Beam Reflection? Whoa!
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1829/akatsukiaction5md.gif

from animesuki
awesome !!!! :D

Mindless
07-23-2005, 09:08 AM
Well, I knew Akatsuki had the same anti-beam coating as Hyaku Shiki but I could never imagine that it would be so powerful it was able to reflect positron cannon shots. Wow!

We might have a suit that can ever rival the top ones right here. After this episode, I might change my mind about my current favourite gundam. I like Hyaku Shiki in Zeta and ZZ, and it looks like I'm going to be able to enjoy a new Hyaku Shiki, but in Gundam SEED Destiny.

Gah! I need RAW now! But I can't get into saiyaman's page!

Freija
07-23-2005, 09:09 AM
http://bt.popgo.net/stats_64888814689af07f3747b229301663f1b521b602.htm l <---- RAAAAAAAAAW :D

Hunter
07-23-2005, 09:12 AM
It will be interesting to see how they will neutralise that beam shield. Personally I am glad that Cagalli finally makes a stand and hopefully this continues.

Mindless
07-23-2005, 09:13 AM
I REALLY hope Mwu gets it, because Cagalli's such a waste.

Mwu? Why would he get a suit that was Uzumi's last will to Cagalli? That would be stupid. :huh

And about that anti-beam coating. My guess is that it will be like any shield: Weaken as it takes more and more hits (with the exception of beamshields).

So if Akatsuki recieves enough hits, the anti-beam coating wont last, thus making it vulnerable.

Hunter
07-23-2005, 09:24 AM
@Mindless:Good point. It would seem ridiculous if that beam shield does not weaken.. Personally I think that those shields cannot completely block melee attacks.

Akirou
07-23-2005, 09:28 AM
OH.....My......JESUS!!!!


WOOT CAGALLI!!!!!

Phase 41 preview

WMP http://mbs.jp/gundamseed-d/bb/gundamss41_so.asx

Real Player http://mbs.jp/gundamseed-d/bb/gundamss41_so.ram

Mindless
07-23-2005, 09:30 AM
About beamswords on the other hand, I think Akatsuki will be affected the same way as any other mobile suit: It will sustain heavy damage. Unlike a beam which is more like a 'temporary' burst of energy shot out of a weapon, a beamsaber remains constant, almost as if it's a material blade, thus I think they will be able to cut it.

But since Cagalli seems to have shaped up alot now that she has Akatsuki, I don't think we will have to worry about any scratches from beamsabers. :P

!-justicer-!
07-23-2005, 09:41 AM
Well I don't think it should be able to repel Positron Blasts... but that's fine.
And the Akatsuki is nuclear powered?
I mean, that beam coating must be wasting a hell lot of energy.
Cagalli got to be at least in seed mode this time, even so she is no match for Shinn's Excalibur, and now that I think about it. Freedom lack physical weapowns. Like it has positrons, beams but nothing lilke the Goufs Swords or even excalibur.
Interesting ability, and a question... Hyaku Shiki means ''Hundread !?!?''
What is shiki?

O-ushi
07-23-2005, 09:48 AM
Directly of MAHQ : "hyaku shiki" is Japanese for "type 100"

Mindless
07-23-2005, 09:48 AM
Actually, the anti-beam coat isn't anything that draws energy. It's not like a phase-shift armor, it's just paint. :)

EDIT: Man, this RAW is so huge, 369mb. It's the one Uchiha posted up. Works really well for me.

I'll post the weekly preview + awsome pictures when I've downloaded it and watched it. Look forward to it! :smile-big

ssouske
07-23-2005, 09:50 AM
wow... akatsuki reflecting beam shots...:amuse i think they improved that beam deflecting coat that Forbidden and Destroy had...
why in hell is saiyaman down??? :crying :crying :crying and the alternative raw link si slow.... Akatsuki seems to look like a cross breed of strike, saviour and justice....:amuse

Hunter
07-23-2005, 09:50 AM
@Mindless:If that is the case then I believe we will see more close-ranged combat in the future. Though I do wonder how much those things cost because if it was cheap then I believe all grunts will outfitted with the same type of shield.

Freija
07-23-2005, 10:18 AM
Actually, the anti-beam coat isn't anything that draws energy. It's not like a phase-shift armor, it's just paint. :)

EDIT: Man, this RAW is so huge, 369mb. It's the one Uchiha posted up. Works really well for me.

I'll post the weekly preview + awsome pictures when I've downloaded it and watched it. Look forward to it! :smile-big
yeah it is huge O_O i hope the quality is as good as its big :D

Mindless
07-23-2005, 10:33 AM
^

How many %?

My computer crashed and it took me a while to get the torrent running again so I'm just at 25%. Stupid computers.

And I wonder, by looking at the size, is this a double episode? :P

ssouske
07-23-2005, 10:57 AM
HEY GUYS!!! SAIYAMAN IS OK NOW... he is done updating his site... START GETTING HIS RAWS!!!

Mindless
07-23-2005, 11:20 AM
Soon done with the other RAW. Only 10 minutes left. Hopefully, it wont be a change in quality compared to SaiyaMan's RAWs. But I'm downloading his too right now, just too be safe.

Expect the preview within the next hour. :P

Freija
07-23-2005, 11:22 AM
^

How many %?

My computer crashed and it took me a while to get the torrent running again so I'm just at 25%. Stupid computers.

And I wonder, by looking at the size, is this a double episode? :P
48.3% nahi don't think its a double... damn its so slow, sitting on laptop on a 5 mbit connection >.<

Mindless
07-23-2005, 11:58 AM
Hm...

I'll wait with the preview untill I've seen the SaiyaMan RAW, because this one was terrible. Despite it's large size, it was framing all the time and this stupid commercial strip was appearing at the bottom and the side of the screen all the time.

Other than that, a great episode. Finally we got to see Cagalli serious. She rushed into battle with Shinn without a second thought at the end of the episode.

Ah, I'll post the preview later.

Akirou
07-23-2005, 12:14 PM
i already posted the preview, Mindless. =/

Chopstickx
07-23-2005, 12:15 PM
^ he ment preview for the eps...like his daily summary thing...o_O

!-justicer-!
07-23-2005, 12:17 PM
Mindless please be quick!!!
I'm not going to be able to watch it so soon, because Cellphone dropped, and by the way, why they dropped?

Well... Go! Akatsuki!
Don't sound too good.

Chillin
07-23-2005, 12:23 PM
Wow! I wasn't really pressed for this episode because it was just in the way of 42 and 43, but it seems like an excellent episode.

Martes13
07-23-2005, 12:32 PM
damn... I didn't download it yet and I want to see the chapter 42 when Kira and Athrun appears :D... I want to see HOW they do it!! :D and... what song will we hear? uhuhuh!

:drool :drool :drool

Freija
07-23-2005, 01:23 PM
woah just watched it, and can simply say, Go Cagalli!! :D

Son_Pan
07-23-2005, 01:23 PM
WELL. this weeks ep. doesnt seem that interesting to me. i'll wait for the subbed. good to see cagalli aint crying anymore though. that got REALLY pointless.

but anyways, looking forward to see Akatsuki pull its moves. lol. that thing is so PIMPED.

clear out your PM box, dude

Jh1stgen
07-23-2005, 01:29 PM
YES! I love cag, she isnt' that sissy cag who always had 2nd thought and who hesitated pointing a gun. F**ing kill SHinn Cag!

Im really surprised and proven wrong about Akatsuki ... it is really one of a kind! Love the deflect shield! Cant wait to see more of it

The orb system looks sizzling hot

The best part is when Yunna got what he deserved...finally

I hope i will be proven wrong about Athrun...

Freija
07-23-2005, 01:33 PM
btw whats up with those commercial lines around the ep this week ?

Chopstickx
07-23-2005, 01:34 PM
WELL. this weeks ep. doesnt seem that interesting to me. i'll wait for the subbed. good to see cagalli aint crying anymore though. that got REALLY pointless.

but anyways, looking forward to see Akatsuki pull its moves. lol. that thing is so PIMPED.

clear out your PM box, dude
lol yeaa shes finally gonna do something useful now and stop crying over everything =\

omg sry! i was wondering where your PM went.

Rakumaru
07-23-2005, 01:46 PM
Does she go seed again in this battle?

Jh1stgen
07-23-2005, 01:58 PM
Nope ... just engage in a battle with Shinn

zeheero1982
07-23-2005, 02:03 PM
Can someone please do the spoiler for 40? I am dying to know what happen. Thank you, in advance!

Jh1stgen
07-23-2005, 02:04 PM
Wait for Mindless, he is the one the usually does it. And he does it pretty good

Freija
07-23-2005, 02:08 PM
Mindless is probably watching the raw now, or he is writing the spoiler or something completely diffrent maybe out and taking a bath... well he will write the spoiler when he wants :D

ssouske
07-23-2005, 02:08 PM
wow... even saiyaman's raws got those stupid frame thing... i hope some haro tori or seed will be able to remove those... the ep was good... it was about time for cagalli to wake up... although she did cry in this ep, i think this one is different...:amuse i can't really say why she cried... but she kept saying "otosan" while crying...
Three cheers for cagalli-sama! she finally took care of Juna's lame ass... i think she ordered him to be arrested or something because the orb soldiers in the HQ started to beat him up to hell after cagalli talked...:amuse as for the cagalli vs shinn battle, everyone will be sooo pissed... the ep ended in the scene where cagalli charges towards shinn... shinn just arrived from minerva and cagalli welcomes him...:amuse i hope she can knock some sense in that idiot...
well that was my brief peek for mindless' review/preview of ep 40... so mindless hurry up and post that weekly thing of yours!:laugh

Chopstickx
07-23-2005, 02:08 PM
yea just wait for Mindless, we would've normally had the summary a couple of hrs. ago. but theres some "technical difficulties" today.

but nicely said U_I :laugh and thx for the small summary ssouske =]

Jh1stgen
07-23-2005, 02:18 PM
She was crying bc of her father's recorded voice

As well ... i realized that Andrew's old murasame is now given to that Captain Amagi which is pretty cool now. Yeah, ZAFT has the numbers, but ORB+ClyneFactor have so many stacked ms: SF, IJ, golden murasame, Gaia, Akatsuki, 3 DOMS, 100+ orb units, Neo's mobile/moblile suit, eternal, arch angel and etc

Bronwen
07-23-2005, 02:20 PM
Excellent episode (Edit: okay, it wasn't that great but still). Only because WE FINALLY HAVE THE CAGALLI WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE BACK!!! Yess!!!

I love the theme song for Akatsuki/Cagalli, loved how she owned grunts while taking back ORB under her command. She has done a lot more in the episode than in those 39 eps we've seen her.

Loved Yuna and the fact he is a simpering little idiot who is reduced to a stuttering moron because he doesn't know how to solve a problem when the going gets stuff and ultimately the one who brought Cagalli back to ORB. :laugh Idiot.

Honestly, I want to see Cagalli hold on her own for awhile against Destiny just to see that face on Shinn for always bashing her earlier in SEED Destiny. I think she deserves so much, at the very least, she's learning from her own mistakes.

Loved it when she's so serious. Loved it when she's commanding those ORB officers. TOTALLY loved it when the ORB's military listened to Cagalli without a second thought. XDDD

This is totally Cagalli's episode.

Jh1stgen
07-23-2005, 02:30 PM
I really think Cag can go seed vs Shinn. Cag only went seed bc of her lost commrades. Since Orb is being attacked, and during the battle between Cag and Shinn, some point in the fight, members from Orb will prolly try to help out, but gets in the way or maybe not (risk their lives to protect Cag). In addition, either way, theres a good chance of Cag going into Seed. Obviously Shinn will go seed, so for Cag's chance to stall until Kira comes, she HAS to go seed as well *crosses fingers

Mindless
07-23-2005, 02:48 PM
(Apologize for the late preview, had to eat dinner and do some stuff, and rewatch the episode since I didn't want to take screens from the bad-quality RAW)

Well then, preview time folks. This episode kind of pissed me off since there was some text along the sides all the time, making the screen small. Anyway.

I'll just go ahead and write then I guess. If you don't feel like spoiling anything, don't read further.

The episode starts out with our three new heroes; Shinn, Rey and Lunamaria getting medals for their bravery at Heaven's Base. After beeing presented with their respective medals for their respective deeds, Gilbert says he has something for Shinn and Rey. Two FAITH medals. Now Shinn and Rey are officially FAITH members so they can do almost anything on their own accord without even consulting Talia before.

The little ceremony for Shinn, Rey and Lunamaria ends and the people present are on their way to return to their normal duties, but as Gilbert approaches an elevator, some military officer approaches him and says they now finally know the whereabouts of Lord Djibril. Shinn, Lunamaria and Rey halts in a stair to eavesdrop a bit on whats said. The officer tells Gilbert that he currently resides in ORB. And he shows Gilbert some data-sheet where there is a picture of Unato, Juna and Lord Djibril together.

Then we're off back to the Archangel. The crew just found out about the fact that the Seirans have beek covering for Djibril, and helping him in his escape. And Milly also lets them know that the ZAFT forces are approaching Onogoro Island (where ORB is located). Cagalli gets frustrated to hear that the Seirans have been protecting Djibril. ZAFT then deploys their forces and initiates their attack on ORB, starting with the ORB Supreme Council building and the Seirans house (Ha! Serves thoes suckers right!).

Cagalli asks Milly what the ORB forces are doing, and Milly tells her that they have not deployed any forces to counter ZAFT's attack. Cagalli gets even more frustrated and asks Amagi if his Murasame squadron can launch and fight, Cagalli also asks to use the Skygrasper to go outside and fight herself, but Murrue tells her that it's reckless and stupid, but Cagalli dosen't care. As she is about to rush through the door at the bridge and head to the hangar, Kisaka together with Erica Simmons comes in and stops her.

Cagalli tells Kisaka that she would rather die than see the country suffer again. But Kisaka, together with Erica insists that she follow them to listen to . Cagalli follows, and the stand before a huge steel gate. Erica tells Cagalli to read what is written on the side of the door on some panel. As she finished reading the written sentence, the door opened, and Erica says: [I]"The day this door is once more opened, is the day ORB once more is engulfed in flames." - "And this is the last thing locked away by Uzumi-sama." (Didn't really get that last part, oh well...)

And there stood...

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/226/akatsuki7uz.jpg

Then a tape starts playing trough some speakers. It's Uzumi. It says:

"If the day comes where you call for strenght, I will answer that call, and hand you this." -then he speaks of how there were alot of things he never told her and that...

"Furthermore, this is the only thing I will leave behind for you." - "Strenght is only strenght." -then some more stuff I didn't really understand. But...

"A sword made for protection, if this now is necessary, take it up!" -then even more stuff I didn't get. Cagalli starts crying and falls down on her knees. And the tapes ends with: "To you who now have opened this door, it may be an unreachable wish, but please, live happily, Cagalli!"

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/4974/akatsuki18kq.jpg

Kisaka then walks up to her and says:

"Cagalli, will you pilot Akatsuki?" -Cagalli looks at Kisaka and says: "Akatsuki...?" -then looks upon the golden mobile suit infront of her and says: "Yes!".

Then the best insert song, and the most fitting song ever starts to play in the background as she starts Akatsuki up. Then you hear Erica over the radio:

"ORB-01, Akatsuki, system online, you are clear for launch." -and then, what we have been waiting for...

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/608/cagalli7jt.jpg

(note: I added the text, it's not a fansub)

God that was a great moment. Then Cagalli went out on her kick-ass killing spree.

The ORB Miltiary Control is in distress because Juna is unable to give proper orders, and an officer tells him: "Unless we do something we will be totally destroyed!" -then Juna starts bitching about how if they loose the country once more, it's their fault (the officers trying to save ORB, not his own fault) if ORB falls once more.

Then once of the CIC people at the military control place notices some Murasame units on the radar and tells them that they have the same signature code as the mobile suits from the Takemikazuchi. And that there is also an unknown mobile suit among them which together with the Murasame units are heading here. Then Cagalli starts talking over the radio: "I am Uzumi Nara Attha's child, Cagalli Yula Attha. Military Control HQ, can you hear me? It may be a sudden thing for me simply to come here and take over, but please let me talk to the officer in charge." -then Juna gets all fired up about it beeing Cagalli and throws himself over the radio and starts talking to her, going: "Oh so you came, my honey! Thank you my goddess!" (He really says "my honey"...) "I am the officer in charge right now." -then I don't really understand Cagalli's reaction. She seems kinda relieved over the radio and says: "Juna..." - "Can you confirm that it is me, Chief Representative of the United Emirates of ORB, Cagalli Yula Attha? - "Of course, of course, I can tell just fine! It is Cagalli!" -then Cagalli puts her serious side on again: "Then I will use that authority to order any soldier/officer to arrest Juna Roma for high treason!" -Juna just goes: "Eh...?" -then some officer says: "Then I will do as ordered!" -and give Juna what he deserved the most...

http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/5427/junagetspunched5qj.jpg

The feeling I had when I saw that was undescibable. Ah... relief...

Then some people from the military control jumps on him to restrain him.

Then Cagalli goes off further on her killing spree, taking down any mobile suit in her way without hesitation, and trust me, her piloting is awsome. Then she takes command over all the ORB forces and everyone goes like: "Ahhh! Cagalli-sama!" -and starts fighting like never before.

Then we see some troubled officers on a ZAFT submarine getting informed that their suits are getting picked off one by one very fast.

Then the Minerva approaches, and you see Rey, Shinn and Lunamaria looking at a TV screen. Rey tells Luna and Shinn that there is no need for all three to go, so that he will go alone. But Shinn insists that he goes himself. So, he does just that. Talia gets informed that Shinn has launched in Destiny and that Rey (as a FAITH member of course) approved of Shinn's action.

Shinn starts shooting down mobile suits one after one, and Cagalli notices him, and charges straight for him without a second thought, and that concludes the episode.

Looking forward alot to seeing the continuation of this battle. Will be alot more tense when Kira with Strike Freedom, and Athrun in Infinite Justice arrives at the scene. Can't wait!

Jh1stgen
07-23-2005, 02:52 PM
Awesome work as usual mindless *rep*

Chopstickx
07-23-2005, 03:01 PM
ty Mindless! :)

omg finally, Cagalli's BACK!! and ready for some pwnage :amuse
and ahhhh Jona finally got what he deserved (although i always wanted Todaka to be the one who does it...)

anyone hoping that Cagalli goes SEED anytime soon?

O-ushi
07-23-2005, 03:21 PM
I just watched the raw. It was a nice episode.
Im wondering though about how Shinn will exactly fight next ep. The civilians in Orb havnt been evacuated yet.
Mayby this might pave the way for a 3rd Seed series, Destiny Gundams stray shots accidently kill someone elses family then the vicious circle of hatred continues J/K:P

BattousaiMS
07-23-2005, 03:32 PM
"Juna..." - "Can you confirm that it is me, Chief Representative of the United Emirates of ORB, Cagalli Yula Attha?"

"Of course, of course, I can tell just fine! It is Cagalli!"

"Then I will use that authority to order any soldier/officer to arrest Juna Roma for high treason!"

"Eh...?"

http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/5427/junagetspunched5qj.jpg


My reaction to that part was.... :pwned then with the punch it was :modsmack.

God that felt great, this is really how imbeciles should be handeled.

Jh1stgen
07-23-2005, 03:34 PM
One down ... one more to go

Yunna's father should be next =)

Another side. For SM RaW ... at 25:54 *commerical

There was a character there i dont recognize at 25:45 ... maybe forshadowing? Or it could be the rumor "3rd serie?"

EDIT: OMG! those 2 chars are from Gundam Astray ... and one of them is i think canard *sweet

me_is_david
07-23-2005, 03:40 PM
hahahah holy crap I dont post for about a day and there's like 4 pages

anyway to reply to some of the old posts
U_I_: ..haha yay..i got a rep and no I wasn't jokin g=P
S_P: haha well I don't read much so yah
Akriou: haha tyty I love that cover art...I want 5 and 8 now =D

I feel as if I'm known as the guy who obsessed over Stellar and Shinn :oh
but tahts okay :smile-big

And I havent seen 40 yet...I want to but I work in 2 hours and I wouldn't be able to finsih it anyway so I'll get it while I'm at work ^_^
Jona gets punched...woohooo hahaha he gets punched by a random Orb officer thats fuckin hilarious :laugh
now come on people...Jona getting punched has got to be better then Shinn getting punched right ^_^
Akatsuki is soo....shiney
at least she starts doing something now, i was sorta fed up with all the crying.

woo...Cagalli vs Shinn...although I doubt they even fight.
If they did I doubt Cagalli would win.
Btw they dont know that they're in those suits right?
Like Shinn doesnt know Cagalli has Akatsuki and Cagalli doesnt know Shinn got Destiny right?

Chillin
07-23-2005, 04:05 PM
Cagalli will know when Shinn starts screaming over Destiny's speakers. Then Shinn will know it's Cagalli because she starts crying over Akatsuki's speakers due to his screaming. :P

santosj
07-23-2005, 04:12 PM
Yeah, I agree, Shinn and the Juna are equally great when they were punched in the face. I hate Juna more and would have rather they shot him in the face.

staradderdragoon
07-23-2005, 04:14 PM
well, juna is just plain gay. he looked like he enjoyed the punch. i havent seen the episode yet, but was it a guy who punched him? maybe thats why he looks so queer....

Freija
07-23-2005, 04:18 PM
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/5427/junagetspunched5qj.jpg

The feeling I had when I saw that was undescibable. Ah... relief...


agree *whistles while doing a .gif of it*

edit: notice Shinn felt bad about killing Kira *referring to his nightmare*

Chillin
07-23-2005, 04:22 PM
That punch was great. Better than Athrun's punch to Shinn by a longshot. Not only did he get punched in the face, but he got trampled by like 6 guys (which he probably enjoyed).

Freija
07-23-2005, 04:28 PM
That punch was great. Better than Athrun's punch to Shinn by a longshot. Not only did he get punched in the face, but he got trampled by like 6 guys (which he probably enjoyed).
hahaha yeah he probably loved it like ... hmm i'll leave my scenario censured like this


..........-----------------.................----------............

:P *reps*



Another side. For SM RaW ... at 25:54 *commerical

There was a character there i dont recognize at 25:45 ... maybe forshadowing? Or it could be the rumor "3rd serie?"

wasn't that Canard ?


U_I_: ..haha yay..i got a rep and no I wasn't jokin g=P
enjoy the rep you deserved it :D, now all we need to wait for is for Darth Vader(Shinn) to go and help Luke(Kira) from the emperor(Dullie).... ^_^

with other words(for those who didn't understand that) Shinn switches side and fights with Kira and Athrun :D

santosj
07-23-2005, 04:51 PM
I think episode 41 is trying to take back all the hate towards Shinn and give reason to why Shinn was and has always been a complete bitch. I can see him going towards the good side towards the end. I would rather see him die, it would be a fitting end since he would be able to see Stellar and his family again.

Chillin
07-23-2005, 05:05 PM
Athrun might give us some perspective on Shinn's character, but I think next episode is really going to be focused on Athrun and Kira reflecting on their own character and what is really going on in the war, retracing the steps up until now.

O-ushi
07-23-2005, 05:20 PM
Its probably too late now, but Ive put up a link in the dl thread of the Phase 40 raw that I watched, It doesnt have any of the problems that some of you mentioned about the other raws, its very high quality too. I didnt notice that you people had problems with the Saiyaman raw cause I dont get my GSD raws from saiyaman.:P

Freija
07-23-2005, 05:26 PM
Its probably too late now, but Ive put up a link in the dl thread of the Phase 40 raw that I watched, It doesnt have any of the problems that some of you mentioned about the other raws, its very high quality too. I didnt notice that you people had problems with the Saiyaman raw cause I dont get my GSD raws from saiyaman.:P
<3 you for finding that raw <3<3 *reps*

Son_Pan
07-23-2005, 06:25 PM
LOL! oh snaps.

sounds tyte. good thing cagalli takes action. i'm really looking forward to the subbed now. not that cliffhanger ending though! god! we have to wait 2 WEEKS! i cant do that at all. but anyways, thanks for the summary, mindless.

tyron
07-23-2005, 06:28 PM
i'm still waiting for the translated version of ep. 40, anyways, i just finished reading the preview posted by mindless..btw, i love reading your posts mindless :D .. i also saw some pics from the ep...finally, Yuna got what he deserves..hope he dies together with his dad..they're just a pain in the a**...anyways, the beams of akatsuki looks similar to Justice and freedom... anways, i also hope that cagalli will be on SEED mode in the next ep. ..can't wait to see ep. 40.

Freija
07-23-2005, 06:33 PM
LOL! oh snaps.

sounds tyte. good thing cagalli takes action. i'm really looking forward to the subbed now. not that cliffhanger ending though! god! we have to wait 2 WEEKS! i cant do that at all. but anyways, thanks for the summary, mindless.
We have to wait 2 weeks O_O you must be joking *dies*

Son_Pan
07-23-2005, 06:36 PM
of course we do, next week is a just a recap.

but anyways, i wish they would focus more on the new characters. at least before the series ends. i want to see more of them.

Freija
07-23-2005, 06:53 PM
of course we do, next week is a just a recap.

but anyways, i wish they would focus more on the new characters. at least before the series ends. i want to see more of them.
oh noes, a recap >.< damn!!! i hate those....

3rdStrike
07-23-2005, 06:55 PM
Thanks Mindless for preview.... and now we have to wait for Haro Tori subs...

Glad to see Cagalli kicking ass now, the gold princess with her gold gundam...
So those who intend to blabber about Cagalli ought to stop complaining. =]

This ep makes me H A P P Y.

Hunter
07-23-2005, 09:13 PM
Hmm, about the next episode, I surely hope that they finally reveal Kira's feelings about his disabling of mobile suits

antoine
07-23-2005, 09:20 PM
Well even if they were to focus on the newer characters, what more could they show?

We all know Rey is coldhearted and is loyal to Gil no matter what. Shinn had a nightmare relating to the horrors of war, FINALLY. They couldn't show anything with Luna without Shinn being somewhere in the picture...and it goes on.

Anyways recap episodes aren't always bad, I loved the recap ep in SEED, was called Moment (episode 26 i think). The whole thing when they played Meteor was just great, and I'm hoping that this one will be a better recap.

I can't wait for Cagalli to fight with Shinn because right now she is pretty angry and might turn out to be even worse than Shinn next episode. I also can't wait for Kira and Athrun to show up mainly cause I want to see the look on the ZAFT people's faces, especially Shinn and Dullindal upon seeing Freedom & Justice.

Freija
07-23-2005, 10:58 PM
Hmm, about the next episode, I surely hope that they finally reveal Kira's feelings about his disabling of mobile suits
thats probably because it makes both him and Lacus sad to kill people, well this is just my guess anyway


edit:1100 posts YaHOo0!!!111oneoneone

Chopstickx
07-23-2005, 11:06 PM
^congrats U_I, lol :amuse

T.M Revolution - Vestige is out. (a PV rip im guessing since the single doesnt come out 'till Aug.) but it sounds nice nonetheless.

sry i had to use a yousendit link, so the # of d/ls are limited:
http://s16.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3F2XXP7O0AAPJ3E1LJCTA411XA

if the d/l expires and you still want it, just PM me.

Chillin
07-23-2005, 11:12 PM
That is really good quality. Thanks a lot

We have to wait until September in order to get the song we heard in phase 40.

me_is_david
07-23-2005, 11:23 PM
OMFG is next week really a recap?
I thought they used too many old scenes but god dammit wtf.
That doesn't make sense having one of the late episodes be a summary. -_-
Thats like 3 already...4 counting EDITED. 20 29 now 41

I wanted to see Shinn and Cagalli fight too, and their reactions when they find out who each other is.

Man, it seems like Shinn fits in the story with everyone somehow like.
Shinn, Cagalli and Athrun seem to have their own thing
Shinn and Kira have their own also.
I duno, haha I can't really explain.

But for some reason it seems like Cagalli still thinks of Shinn as an Orb citizen and doesn't want to fight him either like Athrun.
Somehow it seems them three will have some type of battle/convo or something together.

and OMG I want this version of "Akatsuki no Kuruma"
at least I think its a different version, some of the lyrics sound the same.
If anyone knows the song wanna tell me ^_^
Well its by FictionJunction YUUKA
so it might be another version of "Akatsuki no Kuruma"
Actualy listening to it alot more...I don't think it is lol... but OMFG
Jona is so fukin annoying ... I want to listen to the song and he's all "OMG MY HONEY"

Shinn didn't seem to happy about becoming a FAITH and seems to be questioning more about what he's doing.
Although he still fights, unlike Kira and Athrun who stop fighting after they think about what they're doing.

and dude...wtf Destiny isn't nuclear yet they still used the nuclear start up screen when Destiny started up. -_-
seriously...thats gon start making people argue if Destiny is really nuclear or not.
But its not...it uses the battery cable when it launches.

and also...what does Akatsuki use as its shield?
It seems like its body is its shield. Like...beams reflect off of the gold lol.

Chillin
07-23-2005, 11:39 PM
I don't think Destiny is fully nuclear powered. I think the cable from Minerva pumps Destiny full of that hyper deutrion energy.

Also I was very surprised by Shinn as well. I thought he would be very happy to get the Nebula medal and become a member of FAITH, but he seemed quite puzzled and reserved. The nightmare of losing Stellar, and killing the pilot of Freedom (Kira), as well as Athrun and Meyrin showed to me that he does have some awareness of what he has been doing. I notice he seemed to only talk about Athrun and Meyrin though. He doesn't want to admit to having any thoughts about Stellar or Kira.

davidsiaw
07-23-2005, 11:46 PM
Its so funny how everyone is like "hoping" that this MS doesnt have "that" and that MS has "this" when the specs are right in front of them but they just can't accept it. L()L

anyway, the new Akatsuki rocks. Who wouldv'e thought of making an MS with an armor of heavy-duty mirrors? wooo hooo... I guess Orb's engineers are a breed over others.

staradderdragoon
07-23-2005, 11:53 PM
wtf? a recap? damn.....wow. nice quality on vestige....thnx a lot chopstix

Chillin
07-23-2005, 11:54 PM
Its so funny how everyone is like "hoping" that this MS doesnt have "that" and that MS has "this" when the specs are right in front of them but they just can't accept it. L()L

anyway, the new Akatsuki rocks. Who wouldv'e thought of making an MS with an armor of heavy-duty mirrors? wooo hooo... I guess Orb's engineers are a breed over others.

Who is doing what now, because I could have sworn in a post made in this thread a while back confirmed that Destiny also was powered by hyper deutrion energy. I didn't ignore anything, nor did I "hope" that this MS doesn't have "that" and that MS has "this".

ssouske
07-24-2005, 02:16 AM
Another side. For SM RaW ... at 25:54 *commerical

There was a character there i dont recognize at 25:45 ... maybe forshadowing? Or it could be the rumor "3rd serie?"

EDIT: OMG! those 2 chars are from Gundam Astray ... and one of them is i think canard *sweet

yeah... of them was canard... he was the 2nd one... first was prayer/prea Le Veri (the original pilot of Dreadnought) then we get canard dor a second or two then we see Gai Murakamo (pilot of Blue Frame... my favorite astray suit:amuse )

Hmm, about the next episode, I surely hope that they finally reveal Kira's feelings about his disabling of mobile suits
i think next ep will be more of athrun's flashbacks than kira's thoughts... anyway, we all know that kira disables MS since he found out in seed the philosophy of "Hatred brings more hatred" and that its same with killing... so why should kira blabber about his thoughts on that for an episode? as i see it, if kira will say something, i think it will be his thoughts on how the current path the war is taking... and maybe his ideas on how to stop it... but im pretty sure he still does not know how to stop the war... kira is still searching for the real enemy... same as athrun... somehow i think they will find whatever they are trying to find at the end of GSD...:amuse

Chillin
07-24-2005, 02:35 AM
Well said Sagara.

I do hope they put new footage in episode 41. I can forgive them for interrupting such a crucial battle if they have something new in that episode.

dh19440113
07-24-2005, 02:51 AM
Now that cellphone is dead, another fansubber is replacing cellphone as the first release provider Hiro fansub.
http://www.hiro-fansubs.com/

subbed 40 can be downloaded at this site.:laugh
You can enjoy 40 while waiting for seed and haro tori.

Chopstickx
07-24-2005, 03:27 AM
^and i quote - "...brb i hear a phone ringing... plz wait in #hiro @ irc.rizon.net while i go answer my cell"
heh, i wonder who they are =p

ssouske
07-24-2005, 05:29 AM
I just love my self:amuse

probably this is the best scene in GSD to date... :amuse Forget about Strike Freedom owning 25 zakus and goufs together with 3 nazcaa class ships... this is the best scene ever:amuse

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/8448/junaowned6cn.gif

dh19440113
07-24-2005, 05:49 AM
The Theme song for akatsuki Ep 40, anyone know the name of the song and the artist that sing the song?:oh

Jujubie
07-24-2005, 05:59 AM
After watching phase 40, all I can hope for is that Djibril succeeds in blasting this requiem cannon at PLANT and a split second later, Kira shows up and deflects it back at Djibril with a force field created by his fin funnels. That would be so kickass if Strike Freedom has those kind of funnels and Kira has those kind of newtype powers. I'd be so happy :)

Freija
07-24-2005, 06:28 AM
I just love my self:amuse

probably this is the best scene in GSD to date... :amuse Forget about Strike Freedom owning 25 zakus and goufs together with 3 nazcaa class ships... this is the best scene ever:amuse

http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/8448/junaowned6cn.gif
indeed i've made a .gif of that myself, exactly when i saw it, i soooooo loved it :D

Mindless
07-24-2005, 07:58 AM
After watching phase 40, all I can hope for is that Djibril succeeds in blasting this requiem cannon at PLANT and a split second later, Kira shows up and deflects it back at Djibril with a force field created by his fin funnels. That would be so kickass if Strike Freedom has those kind of funnels and Kira has those kind of newtype powers. I'd be so happy :)

Haha, that would be kinda cool, but at the same time very cliché. :P

But really, it would be a sweet ending. Imagine Kira, Athrun and Cagalli in their respective mobile suits, getting ready to recieve the hit from that 'Requiem'-thing Djibril spoke of, and then Shinn comes to help too. So all four mobile suits form a sort of barricade in order to stop the beam (or whatever) from hitting PLANT. Kira, Athrun, Cagalli and Shinn creates a gigantic shield to protect themselves, and PLANT from the shot, but at the cost of their own lives. Ahh... just imagine that. All four main characters perish in the last episode. I'd cry so damn much.

Freija
07-24-2005, 09:01 AM
Haha, that would be kinda cool, but at the same time very cliché. :P

But really, it would be a sweet ending. Imagine Kira, Athrun and Cagalli in their respective mobile suits, getting ready to recieve the hit from that 'Requiem'-thing Djibril spoke of, and then Shinn comes to help too. So all four mobile suits form a sort of barricade in order to stop the beam (or whatever) from hitting PLANT. Kira, Athrun, Cagalli and Shinn creates a gigantic shield to protect themselves, and PLANT from the shot, but at the cost of their own lives. Ahh... just imagine that. All four main characters perish in the last episode. I'd cry so damn much.
first, i'd mourn them, then i would get a gun and fly to japan, find Fukada and yeah imagin the rest :P nah just joking im not a psycho(for those who actually thought i would shoot someone)

ssouske
07-24-2005, 09:26 AM
hmmm... is it just me or did i just see a cellphone^2 GSD phase 40 sub in tokyo toshokan? well im dowloading it now... i'll be happy if it is indeed a phase 40 sub:amuse Get it here Gundam SEED Destiny Phase 40 Cellphone^2 Sub (http://fullmetal-archer.com/%5BCellphone%5E2%5D_Gundam_SEED_Destiny_Phase_40_% 5B9F3BE928%5D.avi.torrent)

3rdStrike
07-24-2005, 10:47 AM
The Theme song for akatsuki Ep 40, anyone know the name of the song and the artist that sing the song?:oh



- An entry a few days ago in a certain blog supposedly described at length a new Gundam SEED Destiny insert song (a theme for Cagalli) performed by FictionJunction YUUKA, "Honoo no Tobira." ("Door of Flame")



Can confirm with this: http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/m-serve/-/Information2/N1765.html

!-justicer-!
07-24-2005, 10:47 AM
After reading Mindless preview several time I have reached an unbelieavable conclusion.

''Mindless is the kind of guy that alway gets all the girls''

Damn you!!! =(

Well, this fansub makes its realeases at IRC, at least things gets easier! =P
I'm downloading at a 50Kb/s, way better then my torrent speed of 12 Kb/s

Son_Pan
07-24-2005, 11:50 AM
^LOL. i seriously dont know how you came to that conclusion.:blink

anyways, thanks for Vestige, G_N. its a hot song.

speaking of music, wasnt it posted that Yellow Generation was going to do a song? with only 10 episodes left in the series, im wondering if they still are. i love yellow generation, and i hope they do their song for a lunamaria moment or something. haha.

Freija
07-24-2005, 12:09 PM
^LOL. i seriously dont know how you came to that conclusion.:blink

anyways, thanks for Vestige, G_N. its a hot song.

speaking of music, wasnt it posted that Yellow Generation was going to do a song? with only 10 episodes left in the series, im wondering if they still are. i love yellow generation, and i hope they do their song for a lunamaria moment or something. haha.
maybe for Infinite Justice ? the song from those yellow dudes/girls...

staradderdragoon
07-24-2005, 12:18 PM
what? cellphone doesnt sub GSD anymore? then what's with the episode 40? or is that their last episode? hmmm.....from reading the last posts, i thought vestige was the insert song for akatsuki. but it isnt? i havent sen episode 40 yet. so its a different song? but its awesome?

Son_Pan
07-24-2005, 12:21 PM
LOL. Yellow Generation is a group of girls. they did the ending theme for Full Metal Alchemist. --->Tobira no Mukou e. i doubt they would use YG for athrun's new MS.

ssouske
07-24-2005, 12:44 PM
what? cellphone doesnt sub GSD anymore? then what's with the episode 40? or is that their last episode? hmmm.....from reading the last posts, i thought vestige was the insert song for akatsuki. but it isnt? i havent sen episode 40 yet. so its a different song? but its awesome?
yes... apparently, someone announced last week that cellphone will be disbanded after phase 39... i don' t know it that really came from their site, but everyone, including myself, thinks that cellphone has indeed been disbaded after39... so i was shocked to see a cellphone sub on tokyotosho.com:amuse well i have not finished D/L-ing it yet... it seems that there are a only a few people seeding it... :amuse

tyron
07-24-2005, 01:55 PM
i just finished watching ep. 40...it was a good episode....STUPID Juna..he's so scared that it looks like he wanted to run, he was in panic, he doesn't have the balls to be a leader...WTF he called Cagalli "MY Honey"...that really pissed me off...but the punch...it's priceless..the BEST..I also hope that Cagalli will show us her true potential as a pilot coz she hasn't shown much in the past episodes...oh well..

pek
07-24-2005, 02:21 PM
yes... apparently, someone announced last week that cellphone will be disbanded after phase 39... i don' t know it that really came from their site, but everyone, including myself, thinks that cellphone has indeed been disbaded after39... so i was shocked to see a cellphone sub on tokyotosho.com:amuse well i have not finished D/L-ing it yet... it seems that there are a only a few people seeding it... :amuse
They made a 'inane'. A joke episode with 'funny' comments.

SGLP
07-24-2005, 04:17 PM
They made a 'inane'. A joke episode with 'funny' comments.

It was actually pretty funny even though some stuff was in very bad taste. Even though it was basically 24 min of them telling why the hate Destiny.

Inactive Kiba
07-24-2005, 04:18 PM
hey do you guys think that neo will get strike rose now that cagalli has her new MS?

Kereo
07-24-2005, 04:26 PM
Damn, Shinn really wants to take down Orb. That look on his face when he went into the elevator. He looked evil. Also, Akatsuki is awsome. To bad next week seems to be a recap episode. I hope it doesn't count in the total numbers of episodes, like Edited.

Jh1stgen
07-24-2005, 05:20 PM
hey do you guys think that neo will get strike rose now that cagalli has her new MS?

I think it's a possibility bc u see him wearing an ORB uniform. Hence, prolly telling us that he regained his memory. The last time he was um ... with the AA. He was piloting Strike ... so yes, i really think he'll pilot S.R, if not, he'll pilot his mobile

Inquisitor
07-24-2005, 05:57 PM
It is unforgiveable that they brought back Mwu. It makes no sense that he survived, and his existence in Destiny is a blemish on the series.

Anyway, the latest ep was quite good in my opinion. Cagalli has finally started acting like her old self. I really would love to see her defeat Shinn, but that's never going to happen. I am not sure if Orb is going to survive this battle or not, but I think it's reasonable to believe that a something akin to what happened in SEED will take place. I suspect that Djibril will escape on the mass driver as ZAFT nears victory, and then Cagalli will sort out the political end of things (setting up a new regime, etc).

Akirou
07-24-2005, 06:28 PM
http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/1281/2005112208864833oo.jpg
http://ranobe.sakuratan.com/up/updata/up47275.jpg
http://ranobe.sakuratan.com/up/updata/up47307.jpg

Mindless
07-24-2005, 08:16 PM
I don't know if it's just me, but my eyes zoomed to Lacus' rear as soon as I pressed the picture. :P

Jh1stgen
07-24-2005, 08:17 PM
It is unforgiveable that they brought back Mwu. It makes no sense that he survived, and his existence in Destiny is a blemish on the series.



You're right. However, if that is the case, shouldnt we see Klueeze anytime soon than?

sayam
07-24-2005, 08:44 PM
You're right. However, if that is the case, shouldnt we see Klueeze anytime soon than?


I think Rey is the klueze kinda guy, blond, probobly a clone of him and oh yeah he as the same VA as klueeze to.

and about Mwu being back, I don't mind that cuse he's one of my favorite characters, but for him to serve such a small role (almost unnecessary) in this series makes me almost wish that he would stay dead.

Chillin
07-24-2005, 08:45 PM
That's a really nice Kira and Lacus picture.

staradderdragoon
07-24-2005, 09:32 PM
I don't know if it's just me, but my eyes zoomed to Lacus' rear as soon as I pressed the picture. :P

no. ur not the only one. just means that we're not gay. lol

Freija
07-24-2005, 10:37 PM
I don't know if it's just me, but my eyes zoomed to Lacus' rear as soon as I pressed the picture. :P
no not really, i was like kinda just watched ummmm....... i was doing what my instinct told me to do, yes i checked her out :P

http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/1...08864833oo.jpg
http://ranobe.sakuratan.com/up/updata/up47275.jpg
http://ranobe.sakuratan.com/up/updata/up47307.jpgany way to get that Kira and Lacus pic in better quality ? >.< it looked awesome and thanks for posting the pics *reps*

no. ur not the only one. just means that we're not gay. lol
yup so true :Gaipose

Chopstickx
07-25-2005, 01:51 AM
any way to get that Kira and Lacus pic in better quality ? >.< it looked awesome and thanks for posting the pics *reps*
well i cleaned it up a bit for you, was too lazy to clean the whole thing =\
quality should get a lot better once its re-sized though.

dh19440113
07-25-2005, 06:36 AM
If jibril manage to escape to moon base, then the series will probably move back to space fairly quickly. :oh
Dullindel will be forced to go after moon base in order to protect plant. Therefore, If Orb and its alliance can prolong the stalemate for three episode, then orb probably won't be conquered like the first series. :cool

Freija
07-25-2005, 07:25 AM
well i cleaned it up a bit for you, was too lazy to clean the whole thing =\
quality should get a lot better once its re-sized though.
wanna give me a link to the cleaned up ? :D

Akirou
07-25-2005, 10:30 AM
Taken from Gundal Flet site:

次回配信予定:PHASE-41 『リフレイン』
更新予定日:7月30日(石川県、静岡県、広島県、鹿児島県は8月6日)22時

アークエンジェルに傷ついた身を横たえるアスランは、自らの行動と行為を顧みていた。国土復興と世界平和の ために身を挺するカガリを見、何もできない自分に焦りを覚えていた。デュランダルを信じ、ミネルバで戦い、 キラと敵対した。同じ世界を夢見ているはずなのに……。キラはそんなアスランを優しく受け止める。戦いを繰 り返し、かけがえのないものを失い、それでも戦うことしかできない自分たち。でもその力は、ラクスやカガリ が拓く未来のためにある。今のキラには、そう信じることができるのだった……。

Another confirmed piece:
http://newphoto.1t1t.com/usr/13/90281/1122268819_0.jpg (The foto somehow didn't load up fully for me...But if u click save as picture it u should able to see the full picture and these info is derived from it.)

The picture is taken from http://bbs.dmhy.net/index.php?proc=forum:topic&topicid=387777

45话标题《变革的序曲》
45集Destory第3次登场
迪亚卡Blaze Zaku Phantom设定公开
DOM TROOPER同样会“传说中的三为一体的攻击”
SF和IJ是自行突入大气层
失去记忆的尼奥将驾驶空中霸者解救AA的危机
下月NT将是阿斯兰特集,有阿斯兰+围着他的4个女人的大图...........附录里包括设定资料集2 (相对上次的1而言

Translation:

The name of Phase 45 will be "The Prelude of revolution"

In Phase 45, Destroy will appear for the 3rd time.

The settings of Dearka's Blaze Zaku Phantom will be revealed

Dom Trooper will also know the legendary "3 in 1" attack

SF and IJ penetrated the Earth's atmosphere by themselves

Neo, who lost his memory, will pilot Skyscraper (I guess it's skyscraper, but not 100% sure) and come to AA's rescue

Next month's Newtype will be a special edition for Athrun. It will have a poster of Athrun and his 4 girls.

If u want the picture it can be seen at http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=35960&page=67&pp=20

They also have more accurate translations of the picture since it's straight from Jap to Eng

Mindless
07-25-2005, 11:46 AM
SF and IJ penetrated the Earth's atmosphere by themselves.

So, that means Lacus will really pilot Infinite Justice, even if it's only for a breif moment. Kickass! :amuse

Son_Pan
07-25-2005, 11:55 AM
ey, the website that the scan is from has some spoilers up til 44 or something. maybe someone can translate for us? using the google translator. i would, but i cant see the characters. not on this computer, at least.

Chopstickx
07-25-2005, 12:26 PM
@U_I - ehh...ill PM it to you when im done then.

meanwhile,

Misc tidbits from this month's hobby magazines
HCM Pro Zeta Gundam - currently under works.

ZGMF-XX09T DOM TROOPER - developed by Clyne faction's factory. Hilda, Mars, and Herbert (pilots of DOM) specialize in trinity attack (aka something similar to the Jet Stream Attack).

PSP Gundam Battle Tactics - Controls will be similar to PS2 Lost War Chronicles and will include an optional cockpit view.

DESTINY Spoilers
Ep 42 - "Freedom and Justice" - Orb is being pushed back by ZAFT's attack. Cagalli barely manages to hold against Destiny. Right when she was about to be shot down, Strike Freedom drops from the heaven with Infinite Justice...

Ep 43 - "Voice of Counter" - Athrun, piloting the Infinite Justice, comes to aid Kira. Athrun asks Shinn, "What do you really desire?" In the middle of the battle, Djibril plots an escape with group of traitors.

Ep 44 - "Two Lacus" - In response to Cagalli's speech, PLANT counters with Meer's speech. However, Lacus finally appears saying she is the real one. While the world is in chaos, both Dullindal and Djibril make their next move.


The Next Gundam series?
Posted at Useless Plamoya-san's Diary, the next Gundam series following DESTINY is planned for Oct 2006. However, the next series will not be SEED series. The blog states the staff will be made up so it will completely go away from SEED. The same post mentions Zeta and SEED will be the bulk of future model kit releases until this new series airs.

While information posted at Useless Plamoya-san's Diary have been reliable in the past, take this news with some grain of salt.

Chillin
07-25-2005, 12:41 PM
If the info on a new series is true I wonder if it will be a CE or UC story? Or if it will be another new universe.

Kereo
07-25-2005, 12:43 PM
I wouldn't mind another CE series, though if they did, it should be like 20 years later orso, and only have some slight cameo's from the Seed/Seed Destiny cast.

Mindless
07-25-2005, 12:46 PM
I think it should be based around the CE era, but at the same time, I think it should be something completely new.

I mean, Victory (and the UC gundams after ZZ) ruined everything for me, because cartoon characters live forever unless they die in the anime. But knowing that Victory takes place in UC 140, roughly 70 years or more after Zeta (Which means Char and Amuro is most likely dead...). :sad

Makes me wanna cry. I don't want that to happen with CE, so I pray for a new space era.

Son_Pan
07-25-2005, 12:52 PM
Never imagined a guy would cry because of that. :S

anyways, haaaha. those spoilers are nice! i can't wait for the scene where IJ and SF come flyin down from the sky. and shinn is like "what the hell is that?!!" i bet the look on his face will be priceless. not that i have anything against him, though. he just needs to know that hes not all that. but anyways, was it really confirmed that lacus will bring IJ to athrun? how will she get back to eternal then?? i kinda doubt that will happen. but oh well, who knows.

Chillin
07-25-2005, 01:34 PM
I think it should be based around the CE era, but at the same time, I think it should be something completely new.

I mean, Victory (and the UC gundams after ZZ) ruined everything for me, because cartoon characters live forever unless they die in the anime. But knowing that Victory takes place in UC 140, roughly 70 years or more after Zeta (Which means Char and Amuro is most likely dead...). :sad

Makes me wanna cry. I don't want that to happen with CE, so I pray for a new space era.

Oh that's ok because Char and Amuro died UC 0093 anyway

I want another CE series as well. One possibly set around the same time, but a side story (not any Astrays). Or something set far into the future. I would be happy if this news was indeed true, because that means we get to see more SEED/Destiny model kits (still praying for MG Strike Freedom and Destiny).

Laughing@you
07-25-2005, 02:15 PM
@U_I - ehh...ill PM it to you when im done then.

meanwhile,

Misc tidbits from this month's hobby magazines
HCM Pro Zeta Gundam - currently under works.

ZGMF-XX09T DOM TROOPER - developed by Clyne faction's factory. Hilda, Mars, and Herbert (pilots of DOM) specialize in trinity attack (aka something similar to the Jet Stream Attack).

PSP Gundam Battle Tactics - Controls will be similar to PS2 Lost War Chronicles and will include an optional cockpit view.

DESTINY Spoilers
Ep 42 - "Freedom and Justice" - Orb is being pushed back by ZAFT's attack. Cagalli barely manages to hold against Destiny. Right when she was about to be shot down, Strike Freedom drops from the heaven with Infinite Justice...

Ep 43 - "Voice of Counter" - Athrun, piloting the Infinite Justice, comes to aid Kira. Athrun asks Shinn, "What do you really desire?" In the middle of the battle, Djibril plots an escape with group of traitors.

Ep 44 - "Two Lacus" - In response to Cagalli's speech, PLANT counters with Meer's speech. However, Lacus finally appears saying she is the real one. While the world is in chaos, both Dullindal and Djibril make their next move.


The Next Gundam series?
Posted at Useless Plamoya-san's Diary, the next Gundam series following DESTINY is planned for Oct 2006. However, the next series will not be SEED series. The blog states the staff will be made up so it will completely go away from SEED. The same post mentions Zeta and SEED will be the bulk of future model kit releases until this new series airs.

While information posted at Useless Plamoya-san's Diary have been reliable in the past, take this news with some grain of salt.

So in other words Kira needs Athrun's help to handle Shinn?

Athrun is still badly hurt how is gonna be able to fight if he can barely move?

Also its my beleive that the blonde guy did die and the ones who's in the medical room is a clone.

!-justicer-!
07-25-2005, 02:23 PM
I have some complains...

When Kira was taking off with Strike Freedom there was a cool song, a cool reason (save lacus) and everything was just nice.
When Cagalli was starting Akatsuki, man that was amazing..., and she was doing that to protect ORB. ORB-01, System Online. Hashin Douzo... amazing a nice song and everything...

But Shinn like always get the worst part of the stick. He launched Destiny to destroy two friends of his. Sad song and everything... I rewatched it two times and got sad, Kira and Cagalli i watched them 40 times at least...

I still prefer Shinn, but please, Cool moments for him. He deserves it.

Chillin
07-25-2005, 02:44 PM
So in other words Kira needs Athrun's help to handle Shinn?

Athrun is still badly hurt how is gonna be able to fight if he can barely move?

Also its my beleive that the blonde guy did die and the ones who's in the medical room is a clone.

Two other spoilers (but very similar to those) said Rey was also fighting Kira before Athrun comes. It's not just Shinn that Kira was fighting.

Chopstickx
07-25-2005, 03:44 PM
hmm, i just wondered after skimming the eps a bit...is Shinn colorblind? o_O

cuz like his dream was from his point of view/vision and yea, the colors were weird. like everything that was red was seen as green.

zeheero1982
07-25-2005, 04:00 PM
I think it should be based around the CE era, but at the same time, I think it should be something completely new.

I mean, Victory (and the UC gundams after ZZ) ruined everything for me, because cartoon characters live forever unless they die in the anime. But knowing that Victory takes place in UC 140, roughly 70 years or more after Zeta (Which means Char and Amuro is most likely dead...). :sad

Makes me wanna cry. I don't want that to happen with CE, so I pray for a new space era.


But you know mindless, Char and Amuro are dead regardless if it takes place roughly 70 years after Zeta. Char's Counterattack pretty much sums up the fact they both were losers, they both died in the end. I think they should make something that relates with Amuro have a family carrying out his leacy instead, as a bad butt. Btw, did any play the new acade Gundam game called,
Gundam Seeds vs zaft( I think that is what is called). Oh yeah did anyone see the PS2 preview for the Gundam Seed Destiny game. I wonder when is that going to come out for the USA. I hope it comes out for the PS2. Anyone know more news to it?

Btw, Shinn and Rey are going to get owned by Kira and Arthrun. Since Kira and Arthrun got owned last time by Shinn, its time for pay back. I can wait until Shinn makes his ugly faces, saying I am loser after all because I failed to think for myself:laugh . I know I will get flame by Shinn's fans, but life goes on. I think the reason everyone hates Shinn right now, especially Kira's fans is because he is unable to think for himself. Maybe when he starts thinking for himself, I start to like Shinn a bit more, he is getting close, he did have a nightmare about the things he done wrong. But I must confess, Shinn's Gundam Destiny is pretty sick. It reminds me of Domon's gundam, Shining Gundam. Especially, when Shinn did that palm pistol thing on Destory Gundam's head, I don't know what it is called. Anyways, Shin is much like Domon if you think about it, all he is missing is the famous line that Domon's says," This hands of my glows with an awsome power, its loud roar tells me to defeat you!!! SHINING FINGERS!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHA:laugh. I find seeds to be more like G Gundam everytime I watched the episodes. They go from normal pilots to super man!!!!:laugh

!-justicer-!
07-25-2005, 04:46 PM
hmm, i just wondered after skimming the eps a bit...is Shinn colorblind? o_O

cuz like his dream was from his point of view/vision and yea, the colors were weird. like everything that was red was seen as green.

Don't worry. Dream effects.
At least I think so. There would be no logic in placing shinn as color blind.

Son_Pan
07-25-2005, 04:51 PM
hmm, i just wondered after skimming the eps a bit...is Shinn colorblind? o_O

cuz like his dream was from his point of view/vision and yea, the colors were weird. like everything that was red was seen as green.

i dont think so. hahaha. it was probably just a way to let us know its just a dream or something.

Chopstickx
07-25-2005, 05:07 PM
heh, yea you guys are probably right...be weird if he really was colorblind though. he would see blood as some gooey green stuff lol.

Son_Pan
07-25-2005, 05:26 PM
gooey stuff? hahaha. thats a new one.

anyways, i know this is OLD news, but HAHAH. i just saw 39. now i understand why you guys were talking about it for like a million pages. i thought the part when kira was reading all that junk really fast was cool. it made me go, "damn, what a smartass" hah. but anyways! still waiting for Phase 40 to be out by Haro^2Tori^2

O-ushi
07-25-2005, 05:39 PM
Y'know when I saw the dream sequence at first I thought the episode I downloaded had somehow got corrupted.^_^;;

Mindless
07-25-2005, 05:40 PM
^

My guess is that their 'slow' release is because they want to fix that stupid border around the screen which totally messed up the RAW's. And ensure it has good quality after fixing that stuff.

EDIT: Haha, I thought the exact same thing! :smile-big

3rdStrike
07-25-2005, 05:52 PM
Just in case those who wants to know about Hiro and Cellphone thing... here you go:

http://www.tokyotosho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5682#5682

Jujubies has posted it on the d/l thread so whatever...

Otherwise, I really like Hiro subs. It's straight foward and simply without fancy subtitles. In addition, does anyone have any idea with the new Gundam Series? It's interesting because I never thought they would give us another series, which reminded me of this article about Hideaki opinion about Gundam. He said that there is always going to be an era of Gundam and an era of another new kind of anime. And they cycle. For instance, after the UE which really claimed the 80s, there was the EVA era which claimed the 90s. And for now, we got the SEED hooking up all of us.

Anyway, that was just rubbish... I thought you guys would want to know...

Chopstickx
07-25-2005, 07:08 PM
lol wow i never noticed or knew that Cellphone^2 was that old parody group, Chopstiks, or w/e they were called. heh, i think of my username when i think of them...

but yea am i just slow, or did anyone else not know this?

Jh1stgen
07-25-2005, 08:11 PM
When i went to the forum that 3rdstrike posted ... and when i saw ur name. I was like "wtf ... o shyt!" lol

Chillin
07-25-2005, 08:20 PM
Yeah for a minute there I thought they were talking about you. I thought to myself "wow kept that a secret for a long time..." :laugh

staradderdragoon
07-25-2005, 09:19 PM
yeah same here. so hiro is a group that only does fast subs? i guess thats good for us impatient people.

O-ushi
07-25-2005, 09:44 PM
Y'know I gotta say it was quite a depressing sight seeing Rey, Shinn and Luna together in ep 40. I mean they like have no one but each other now, everyone seems to have in some form distanced themselves from the the trio pilots, probably due to the incident with Athrun and Meyrin, and as for Luna, I guess its becasue of how quickly she accepted Athrun and Meyrin beng traitors. To think that things are going to get even worse for them....:(

BTW didnt anyone found it a bit odd that Rey said it would be better if he went out to fight first rather than Shinn to fight agaisnt Orb? He looked really worried for Shinn:blink

Chillin
07-25-2005, 09:51 PM
It was all an act, he knew with Shinn's recklessness that he would go first. Maybe he was just worried that someone would start putting knowledge and doubt into Shinn's head during battle.