- Gundam SEED: Destiny [v3.0]

[DevilB0i]

Shinn is the main character to me the whole GSD was revolving around him by telling how his family died and everyting until right know. It's already decided that Shinn will not stay with Dullindal and will choose his own path at the end or heck he prob die at the end or sacarfice his life to save millions and will shock us all even tho he is a bitch right know. The whole GSD is on Shinn he is the main character and the last move make in GSD will be shinn.

[Wave]

not sure if this was posted by anyone here but here goes.
thought this was pretty smart analyzation by this dude over at NM

']Wow....maybe it was just a coincidence but i was watching ep 29 again for some odd reason and the Chairman at the end when Lacus's song starts playing is speaking of Project Destiny it seems..... o_O

Mask Guy (forgot his name again): "It wasn't suppose to be like this..." Is it for your wishes to be granted, to turn back time? Then can you say for sure that you won't make a mistake the next time? Just who decided it? And what was decided?

(Here he starts spilling it)

Chairman:Then I will change everything! If we can't go back, then I will travel down the correct path from the beginning. Adenine, Guanine, Cytosine, Thymine...What one can do... and what one should do. Because you yourself know that best.

^There was his MASTER PLAN!! Right at the beginning! Well not exactly but DAMN!

now that makes me wonder how many clues there were in the other eps :O!

[Jh1stgen]

Adenine, Guanine, Cytosine, Thymine is just DNA

So we already knew that Destiny Plan requires gene manipulation

[3rdStrike]

Hahaha, well back then in episode 29, we missed the whole concept there...

So his plan is based on manipulating... Adenine, Guanine, Cytosine, Thymine? (Which are chunks of your DNA in case those who wanted to know.)

Interesting. We knew the plan all along but just wondering how people are going to react on his little plan.

[JoshDB]

Shinn is the main character to me the whole GSD was revolving around him by telling how his family died and everyting until right know. It's already decided that Shinn will not stay with Dullindal and will choose his own path at the end or heck he prob die at the end or sacarfice his life to save millions and will shock us all even tho he is a bitch right know. The whole GSD is on Shinn he is the main character and the last move make in GSD will be shinn.

Shinn isn't the Main Character, it's still more Asuran and Kira. Shinn is simply the angsty plot-advancer who always does the thing you don't want him to.


By the way, is it just me, or are Asuran's hos dropping like flies? (Leaves without Kagari, Meer dies...)

[Jikes]

Hahaha, well back then in episode 29, we missed the whole concept there...

So his plan is based on manipulating... Adenine, Guanine, Cytosine, Thymine? (Which are chunks of your DNA in case those who wanted to know.)

Interesting. We knew the plan all along but just wondering how people are going to react on his little plan.

to be precise Adenine, Guanine, Cytosine, and Thymine are infact the 4 molecules that are the arranged along the double helix stuctured by glusocose and phosfurous molecules, they are basically what makes up the code for specific genes. Adenine is always opposite Thymine and Cytosine is always opposite Guanine on the double helix.

Anybody aiming to create an ultimate race of obidiant coordinators will need to know these basics.

I can just hear Samual L Jackson saying "check out the brain on Brett" (pulp fiction). Sorry eveyone for being a smartass!

[O-ushi]

I have a question. In episode 44, After Djibril fired Requiem at the Plants, AA and Co were like talking about the Destiny plan and wanting to stop Dullindal right? But they never mentioned anything about stopping Djibril, sure Gil gots something planned, but the bigger bad guy at the time was Djbril. There wasnt even any talk about AA and Co even attempting to stop Djibril. Were the minds AA and Co far,far away or were they just waiting to see how Zaft Vs Requiem would turn out first?

[Chillin]

I think they knew with Djibril on the run it was a matter of time before he was taken down. They knew with Djibril gone they would be next on Dullindal's hit list.

[Mindless]

O-ushi: I kind of support your argument, but at the same time, I don't think that the Archangel and it's crew knew about such a massive weapon or such a elaborate plan to destroy PLANT. Not even ZAFT was aware of these things untill it was too late.

[O-ushi]

I think they knew with Djibril on the run it was a matter of time before he was taken down. They knew with Djibril gone they would be next on Dullindal's hit list.

O-ushi: I kind of support your argument, but at the same time, I don't think that the Archangel and it's crew knew about such a massive weapon or such a elaborate plan to destroy PLANT. Not even ZAFT was aware of these things untill it was too late.

yeah, well, its just that AA and Co dont seem very much like "AA and Co" these days. Its seems a bit odd of them to have been focusing mainly on what Dullindal is planning on, when Djibril, a psycho whose commited countless attrocities on both co-ordinators and naturals is just as bad or even worse that Dullindals Destiny plan.
Thats just my opinion:P

[Mindless]

Don't know if I'm right in saying it, but I'll say it anyway. The crew on the Archangel probably judged the situation as that Dullindal is a greater threat to mankind that Djibril ever would become. This 'Destiny Plan' he speaks of more or less eliminates the freedom of choise people are granted, and in order to enforce this system, great sacrifices, possibly even greater sacrifices than that of PLANT when Djibril fired Requiem would have to be made.

And this would probably scar the world alot more than the loss of the colonies. And I believe Lacus' 'purpose' or so to say, was to go after the true culprit of all this. Gilber was most likely the one who staged the Junius-7 drop, and used this in order to fuel his war-machine on earth against the EAF and LOGOS (unknown at the time).

The sacrifice he made with the Junius-7 drop was a small price to pay if it helps him create his ideal world. The Junius-7 drop made war escalate, and people strike at the coordinators once more. But Gilbert once again used a smart way of dealing with things. He helped resistance forces and thus gained some of the publics support down on earth. Then finally, he presented to the world the Merchants of Death; LOGOS. The world was united under Dullindals banner, and he, together with the people striked at the heart of the LOGOS organisation. His support among the naturals on earth grew as they mobilized the first of the Destroy units on earth. Then finally, Djibril helped Gilbert even further in his plans, by destroying several of the PLANT colonies, creating fear, unease, and most of all; hate, among the people.

Hate is a strong force, we've seen it before (Shinn is a good example in many cases). Not only did he help by rallying even more people under his banner, but he did also support him in his plan to create the ideal society by removing some of the 'bad' in PLANT.

That is what I believe the Archangel crew wants to stop.

Ah, end rant. :S

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by O-ushi:
I have a question. In episode 44, After Djibril fired Requiem at the Plants, AA and Co were like talking about the Destiny plan and wanting to stop Dullindal right? But they never mentioned anything about stopping Djibril, sure Gil gots something planned, but the bigger bad guy at the time was Djbril. There wasnt even any talk about AA and Co even attempting to stop Djibril. Were the minds AA and Co far,far away or were they just waiting to see how Zaft Vs Requiem would turn out first?
You know, during that episode I was pleased that they did not even talk about this. I would have been annoyed had they been stupid enough to travel such a great distance, fight through Zaft's fleet, destroy Requiem, fight through Zaft's fleet again and then return home without any strategic advantages or line of retreat, never mind the fact that all these they have to achieve with so little troops.

[ssouske]

uhm... nice science facts Jikes... though reading that gave me a headache...:sad
on oushi's question and arguments... i agree with kinda agree with mindless... i think AA and co just kinda underestimated djibrill but in my opinion, it was correct for them to immediately target gilly's plans... i think gil is more of a threat to humanity than djibril... even though djibril has that uber powerful weapon of mass destruction, it will just be a matter of time till zaft can corner and kill him... besides... there are hints in the series that gil was in kahoots with djibril(gill getting destroy's plans, rey's emotions when he eliminated djibril in phase 46, gill's initial reaction when requiem was fired, and probably more)... and i guess AA and co are looking at that perspective... they see that gil was the one that really orchestrated this war and blamed it all on logos and djibril... more or less, djibril is a victim of his own dreams, and goals and of dullindal's plans... they see that gil did all of those so that he can acomplish that destiny plan that he has... but that is just my opinion based on the conspiracy theory...:wink

[Akirou]

*has nothing to do with the current convo, buuutttt*

xD

I found this, and i thought it was kinda cuuute. *squee at Cags*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/surr3thereal/SEED%20Images/img10631744287.jpg

[SGLP]

Regardless of who is better. It will depend on the circumstances of their battle.

What do you mean? If Kira actually wanted to kill people it seems he would be damn near unstoppable.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by MagiRed:
What do you mean? If Kira actually wanted to kill people it seems he would be damn near unstoppable.
No, not really. What you are saying is simply the most probable outcome but this does not mean anything when they are fighting.



Edit:@Akirou:Hmm, it seems Cagalli has found a replacement for Athrun:amazed

[Akirou]

xD, I smell the hint of yuri love.

When the boys are away...the girls come out and play. xDDDDD

I WANT A BIGGER PIC, DARMIT!

[staradderdragoon]

thats a kick ass pic. but yeah, i would love a bigger pic

[darksage78]

Gunota news!

To the New World"
Newtype - Dullindal's "Destiny Plan" is using genetic engineering to match every human with roles corresponding to their own abilities. Shinn is disturbed by the details, however Rey tells it is their job to help create Dullindal's world. While the rest of the world is disturbed, Cagalli's Orb refuses to implement the plan. Dullindal orders the firing of Requiem at Earth Alliance's Arzamas base, which was following her decision.
Animage - Dullindal implements the ultimate human salvation plan, "Destiny Plan". While people around the world are disturbed at this news, Rey urges Shinn to agree with Dullindal's plan. While rest of the world are deciding to accept Dullindal's plan, Lacus decides to fight against Dullindal to protect the dreams and future of people.

Phase 49: Rey"
Newtype - Archangel and Eternal quickly heads toward to destroy Requiem's first relay point. Minerva is there to stop them.
Animage - After reuniting, Archangel and Eternal heads toward the Requiem's first relay point colony. Some of the ZAFT were hesitent towards Lacus' plea to open the path. Combat could not be avoided. Shinn, reflecting back the past events, was perplexed. Dullindal is explaining Shinn that he needs him in order to create a world with no war.

Phase 50: "The Final Power"
Newtype - Athrun vs Shinn. Kira vs Rey. During the intense battle, Kira learns about Rey's shocking birth.

[Chopstickx]

well i havent been here in a while...anything imp news?

hmm the spoilers actually went up to the last eps lol. but man...does anyone think they're rushing this besides me? =S it sounds like they're trying to cram everything into the last 3 eps really...

but anywaysss i dunno if anyones mentioned this (too lazy to read through all the pages right now >_>) but at the end of 46, everyone was crying over Meer's death except Kira. i found that really ironic xp


http://randomc.animeblogger.net/images/Gundam%20SEED%20Destiny%20-%2046%20-%2050.jpg
boo-hoo =(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/vi3tshadowdragon/meyrin.png

http://randomc.animeblogger.net/images/Gundam%20SEED%20Destiny%20-%2046%20-%2049.jpg

http://randomc.animeblogger.net/images/Gundam%20SEED%20Destiny%20-%2046%20-%2047.jpg
and then look not even one tear :O

i told my friend my thoughts and he said Kira must've really disliked Meer, turned cold in Destiny, or they just wanted to make him look badass lol.

[Chillin]

Mu didn't cry either.

[ssouske]

maybe that was kira's own way of saying: "Thats what you get for coppying my lacus you biatch...":P seriously though, i think kira has already cried every tear that he could possibly sqeeze out of his eyes in GS... probably its due to him seeing too much death and suffering through out the war years... im not saying that kira is a cold person, but maybe he has just seen way too many deaths like that and he got so used to seeing it that he can't even get his emotions out properly whenever he sees something like that...
but i think kira has been lacking emotions in GSD... so its not that surprising to see him not crying at meer's death...

[Chopstickx]

Mu didn't cry either.
i know he didnt, but that wasnt the point >_>

good point though ssouske. hes pretty much considered a veteran with all his experience i guess. though come to think about it, we havent seen much crying in Destiny compared to SEED. i think Shinns the one who cried most...but then some of his reasons for crying were totally different from Kira's =\
-coughcough-...

[Chillin]

i know he didnt, but that wasnt the point >_>


Heh heh well you did say everyone was crying over Meer's death except Kira. I'm being an ass now...I think I'll stop.

[ssouske]

i wonder if shinn will be given any crying scenes in the last 3 eps... if he is given such crying scenes i hope he does not look like a "enraged kid hell bent on taking revenge for the dead one" while crying... because thats how i think he really looks whenever he gets those crying scenes...

[Mindless]

I also thought it was quite funny that Kira didn't show any emotion, but I can't really blame him. Athrun has been followed around by her for like 35-40 episodes, and Kira saw her for the first time in person this last episode. He didn't know her, he had no reason to cry for her.

Lacus cried because she had an unfortunate fate. Meyrin cried because death, is a sad thing. Athrun cried because he thought he was powerless.

Kira on the other hand didn't cry. He didn't know her. He knew her as a copy of Lacus on the outside, and as one of Gilberts manipulated pawns on the inside. No matter how unfortunate someone was; I couldn't cry for a person like that.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by Chopstickx:
but anywaysss i dunno if anyones mentioned this (too lazy to read through all the pages right now >_>) but at the end of 46, everyone was crying over Meer's death except Kira. i found that really ironic xp
Well like ssouske said throughout Destiny he has shown little emotion and tragedies does not affect him as much as it did during Seed.

Originally Posted by Chopstickx:
i told my friend my thoughts and he said Kira must've really disliked Meer, turned cold in Destiny
Dislike Meer I don't think so but cold probably seeing as how his face does not even show any concern or worry for Lacus after the assassination attempt...


It would seem in Destiny Kira has a "What is done is done" attitude.

[Chillin]

It would seem in Destiny Kira has a "What is done is done" attitude.

Yeah, I was quite surprised when he kind of shook off Freedom being destroyed. I thought he would be much more emotional or at least a little ticked off. In real life, people got more ticked off that Freedom was destroyed than he did :laugh

It's kind of sad, but death is just a natural experience for Kira thanks to his experiences in the first war. He wasn't a hardened soldier or anything of the sort (quite the opposite), so the reality of war had a great effect on his naive and compassionate self.

[SGLP]

I find it hard to cry when someone dies I don't know. Kira probably doesn't even care as she has caused a lot of problems for them by supporting Dulindal.

[Chopstickx]

man you people are so cold-hearted...i cry even when someone i didnt know that well died =\

@Hunter - well now....you just like to start arguments whenever you post dont you? but as for Kira showing no emotion about Lacus's attempted assasin...he could just be hiding his emotions, he'd wanna be strong for Lacus wouldnt he? plus he knows that Lacus never wanted to force him out onto the battlefield again, he cares about how she feels too yunno.

[staradderdragoon]

lol. i dunno if i would cry. i think it would depend on who it was. but anyhow, is the next episode really going to be recap? im going to be so pissed if it is.

[Chillin]

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6312/gsdbattlefinale1hw.th.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gsdbattlefinale1hw.jpg)

Newtype scan, friend linked me

http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/3377/6tothebeach6ee.th.jpg (http://img342.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6tothebeach6ee.jpg)

and another

[DeathGuise_of_Oblivion]

Alright, theres only one thing wrong with the last pic. Athrun and Cagalli aren't together anymore(not really a fan). And w00t for Neo getting the Akatsuki. And for all those who say "He's Muu, its like, official." I really don't give a damn. My Muu died with the Strike(I also refuse to reconize Rouge as Strike, despite it had its colors) saving the AA. So suck it.

And I'd like the final episode have Shinn turn on Gil and run the Heat Sabre(is that what its called?) right through central command on the base and end up in ORB with Luna living with peace knowing that his family's death was an accident and deciding to forget the past and focus on the future. WITH the Destiny unit in tact(somewhat).

On an ending note, do you guys think the Destiny Unit has something to do with the Destiny plan, or is it just a snazzy name.

[Son_Pan]

Shinn has NO sense of style. whats up with that green shirt with that symbol? seriously! and that jacket?! hell no! kira and athrun are kinda sporting their stuff, but damn, then theres shinn in the back in his ghetto-ass clothing. what a shame.

bitches and HOES, bitches and HOES, gotta take care of them BITCHES AND HOES.

HAHAAAAHHAAA.

about the crying thing, pretty random of u chopps.(haha) i think Kira just learned from his past about keeping his emotions under control. and doesn't break down that easily, cause hey, someone needs to be the leader.

about the series ending, honestly, i dont care WHAT happens, i just want an ending. like a final conclusion to the SEED series. from the information that i have slowly collected, it seems as if the next episode is pretty useless, and it could be used for more then Meer's thoughts. the least it could reveal is her true thoughts on Dullindal. that could probably help out Kira and co. to understand his plot better, but other then that, its a bit useless, especially if its only dedicated to her, seems like a waste of ink, to me.

but whatever pleases those Meer fans, i suppose.

[me_is_david]

I dont think it has to do with it anymore lol

You know I think if Kira was the main character in the begining...Strike Freedom would be named Destiny or he would get Destiny. =P

After watching the end of most episodes, I find it funny how AA and co. are the focused ones in the end while the music plays.

and yeah agreeing with O-ushi when he said the thing bout AA talking only about Gil and not thinking about stopping Requiem.
Maybe they knew he would get stopped? but other than that they really had nothing to say about it.
It's like "oh shit PLANT got hit, but lets think about getting Gil so he doesn't carry out the Destiny Plan"

I'm like WTF??
I say this now because I jus watched it lol
I know I said i would stop hating on them but damn... they just are having them do idiotic things.
Like at the last minute Fukuda seems like he is trying to make out AA as the saviours so to speak.
Like they will be the ones to stop everything and anyone else is bad because their methods are not ethical.

I still believe Shinn can beat Athrun =)
I think when they fight Shinn will use his palm things to blow up some of Justice's limbs.
and Athrun will be like...o shit.. but he already knows about them so it might not be a "trump card"
I don't think just having Athrun beat Shinn once while injured means he is better.
They had to have to win lol but I think in the end they will turn out to be equal.
Freedom and Justice had to own the first time they came into play too, but after that they had trouble.
Its the fanservice I think when Athrun beat Shinn.
Of course most of this is coming out because Shinn is my favorite character ever. But I also think its true somewhat.
The whole series its always been hinted that it will be Shinn vs Kira.

Seriously I think if you watch the first and last episodes ... people would say WTF....because this series completely drifted.
Even though its my favorite series still and I plan to buy the dvd's because I'm gay like that.


I really want Shinn to beat Athrun, not just because I like Shinn the most out of them all, but because I want to see Kira v Shinn.

I guess you can call that AA bashing, but not really lol.
I just think the usual like, AA will beat everyone and it ends which is very gay for this series because AA people were support, now they are main.
Actually, I think the story progressed well for people who are watching it straight through.
But for people who watch it weekly and such, it might be a bad plot to us.
b/c iuno, we expected something different? I know I did lol.
But I know if i watched it though from 1-50 in a couple days, I would think the plot is pretty well done.

Obviously most if not all will not agree with me but thats what I do in this forum =)
Starting a debate/arguement =P
in which its like me vs all lol

[Chillin]

Even though its my favorite series still and I plan to buy the dvd's because I'm gay like that.

I plan on buying the DVDs too...

[Son_Pan]

WOOOoooooo! he admits it. nice one david. just dandy.

also chillin if you have more pictures, please do post them here, again.
--
omg! btw! i find it so ironic that in last weeks ep, they had this lil shopping episode, and i was SO shopping that same day. lol!

word to the LADIES: American Eagle has hot jeans. So does Express!

heh. hope no one sees me as fruity. as of now. no..no..someone already takes that title. (JC u know what im sayin eh?:laugh)

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by Chopstickx:
@Hunter - well now....you just like to start arguments whenever you post dont you?
You are correct.

Originally Posted by Chopstickx:
but as for Kira showing no emotion about Lacus's attempted assasin...he could just be hiding his emotions, he'd wanna be strong for Lacus wouldnt he? plus he knows that Lacus never wanted to force him out onto the battlefield again, he cares about how she feels too yunno.
And I happen to agree with this but still it does not change the fact that Kira seemed cold on that particular scene.

Originally Posted by thisbedavid:
It's like "oh shit PLANT got hit, but lets think about getting Gil so he doesn't carry out the Destiny Plan"

I'm like WTF??
I say this now because I jus watched it lol
I know I said i would stop hating on them but damn... they just are having them do idiotic things.
Let me quote something I wrote regarding this matter:
You know, during that episode I was pleased that they did not even talk about this. I would have been annoyed had they been stupid enough to travel such a great distance, fight through Zaft's fleet, destroy Requiem, fight through Zaft's fleet again and then return home without any strategic advantages or line of retreat, never mind the fact that all these they have to achieve with so little troops.

Originally Posted by thisbedavid:
Like they will be the ones to stop everything and anyone else is bad because their methods are not ethical.
If you do not like this then most likely you will not like most of the Gundam shows.

Originally Posted by thisbedavid:
I still believe Shinn can beat Athrun =)
Your not the only one.

Originally Posted by thisbedavid:
I don't think just having Athrun beat Shinn once while injured means he is better.
They had to have to win lol but I think in the end they will turn out to be equal.
In my opinion speculating on the skills of these pilots will only be a waste of time seeing the director can easily decide who wins.

Originally Posted by thisbedavid:
I just think the usual like, AA will beat everyone and it ends which is very gay for this series because AA people were support, now they are main.
Despite what you hear from other people the Archangel crew are not the main characters. Destiny has always focused around Shinn and to some extent Athrun.

[DevilB0i]

Shinn got dumped?

[Mindless]

Haha. Shinn dresses funny. I think Athrun and Kira have a quite good sense of style, but Shinn is just lame.

Some green hippie shirt with some print on it, and then... a black tux with grey lines on it and a pair of blue shorts? What the f...!?

I spent $200 on clothes last week and thoes where like, a million times better matched with eachother than Shinn's clothes. :P

Putting Shinn's poor clothing taste aside...

It seems like Luna and Shinn will pretty much hook up with eachother, well, they kinda have already. But a bit more seriously like Kira and Lacus.

I'm really curious about how Destiny will end? Will it end like many other gundams, where the main enemy is beaten and peace is returned to the world (Wing, Victory, ZZ, etc.) and the main characters go back to their normal lives, free of fighting?

I'd love for it to end that way. :)

[O-ushi]

I read this spoiler for Phase 50 on animesuki, its a fake but it would be creepy if it actually happened.:smile-big

PHASE-50「最後の翼」 - Final Wings?
アスランはシンを説得に向かうキラはレイは一騎打ちになる
激しい戦いの中、キラはレイの出生はクルーゼのクローンと知る。
それを知ったキラは「フレイ殺害」を思い出しスーパーSEEDモードとなりレイを倒す
アスランはレクイエムの発射を止めに行って、
そこに駆けつけたシンは「レイ殺害」のキラに対し怒りを爆発させ
シンVSキラの最後の戦いとなる。
一方、ラクスはデュランダルと対峙する。
世界が注目する中で理を説くデュランダル。
そしてラクスはデュランダルの計画に賛同する

Athrun decides to persuade Shinn while Kira battles with Rey. During the hard fight, Kira discovers Rey is the clone of Creset. Kira remembers how Fllay was killed. Kira turns into super seed mode and defeats Rey. Athrun goes to stop Requiem's attack. Shinn is furious at Kira's killing Rey. Then the final battle between Kira and Shinn starts. On the other hands, Lacus confronts Dullindel. Dullindel explains his reason and Lacus agrees with it.....

[DevilB0i]

...okAy.......then lacus agrees to make a baby with Dullindal

[Jujubie]

Hunter: what proof do you have that the main focus of Destiny is Shinn and co. To me, it's just GS with added cast. AA and co has had just as much screen time as Minerva and co (maybe more). And didn't Fukuda admit that Shinn is not the main character in an interview? Someone mentioned this I believe. And also, since GSD is fanbased, the audience decides the main characters. Japanese people overwhelmingly love Kira and Lacus. Hopefully this will be the last time I must respond to you.

At DevilB0i, that's a cool gif. Where's it from?

[Mindless]

That's from Bleach. It's Hitsugaya Toushirou with his sword called 'Hyourinmaru'.

:P

[Chairman]

...okAy.......then lacus agrees to make a baby with Dullindal
Oh my, Please God stop making this pictures in my head.... eeew. If that were to happen I have no idea how to react. I'd probably scream out in terror.

[wrecca]

Anyone else getting a feeling of Macross/Robotech-ness with this whole song thing ?

[Mindless]

Song thing? :huh

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by Jujubie:
Hunter: what proof do you have that the main focus of Destiny is Shinn and co.
Oh, I don't know maybe it's the fact that it was Shinn who had to overcome so many emotional problems which is essential to being a main character. Now tell me did Kira and co. had any inner conflicts they had to deal with?

Originally Posted by Jujubie:
And didn't Fukuda admit that Shinn is not the main character in an interview?
No, he did not.

[ssouske]

well... Shinn was supposedly the main character for GSD... until we got all of that fanbased thing that most of us have been complaining about... right now i see kira, shinn and athrun sharing that main character spot... kira and shinn for obvious reasons and athrun because he really got some spotlight in this series... his character was totally re-worked... well, more of rewinding his character to early GS then re-doing his character which is similar to what he was in the end of GS but with a bit more... as i said in the past, i would have liked it if they sticked with only shinn as the main character while athrun and kira play major supporting roles... but as i also have said in the past, it is useless to think about "what-ifs" because it will never hapen and the things that are here will stay here and probably never change...
EDIT:lacus agreeing with gil? maybe she will agree with his reasons but not with the way he would do things... as an old saying goes, the end result/objectives can never out-weigh/justify the means... but i don't think that is a good spoiler... gunota did release a spoil for ep 50 already... so thats the one i'm going for...:amuse

[liz]

It seems like Luna and Shinn will pretty much hook up with eachother, well, they kinda have already. But a bit more seriously like Kira and Lacus.

I'm really curious about how Destiny will end? Will it end like many other gundams, where the main enemy is beaten and peace is returned to the world (Wing, Victory, ZZ, etc.) and the main characters go back to their normal lives, free of fighting?



Nah. Luna and Shinn are not like Kira and Lacus. Luna and Shinn pretty much developed from very little dialogue with each other to "let's hook up since we both lost our sisters". Or maybe it's just me thinking that Stellar could not be replaced despite being a mental wreck. :sad Kira and Lacus took forever to develop since SEED and I still see a brother-sister relationship now rather than a serious one. :P

The problem with how Destiny will end is who exactly is the enemy? Now that Blue Logos is kaput, it's just left with Dullindal who is just... Weird... But let's kill him anyway. Shinn should just go into a coma after this whole thing because I don't really want him dead. But I don't want him to live either... :tem

[ssouske]

Preview for GSD Phase 48 out now!!! here is the link http://mbs.jp/gundamseed-d/index2.html

i noticed a wierd thing... a beam that looked just like requiem's was fired onto the moon's surface... hmmm... im wondering what that thing is...:blink probably its warning shot to lure out the Archangel and possibly Eternal out of copernicus...

EDIT: i just rewatched phase 46 and i realized that meer's red haro was more annoying compared to pink-chan... why? because it spoke in english... i find pink-chan annoyingly cute... while meer's haro is just plain annoying...:)

[Chairman]

The problem with how Destiny will end is who exactly is the enemy? Now that Blue Logos is kaput, it's just left with Dullindal who is just... Weird... But let's kill him anyway.

Yes yes yes, kill that annoying wicked person. I really hate that guy- even more than Sasuke and that means a lot. :wink

[O-ushi]

A Few Phase 47 Spoiler Pics

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7981/11263431554865ch.jpg
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/8457/11263440678153cy.jpg
http://tinypic.com/dm3f2h.jpg

[Laughing@you]

Nice pics! But where's the raw?

[liz]

Nice spoiler pics but seriously... Why should Meer get this much attention? She hasn't done anything at all but bounce around and give speeches by reading a script under Lacus's image. :nerve Does she have that big of a fanbase in Japan or what?

[O-ushi]

Ive Posted phase 47 raw links in the DL Thread.

[Zellianne Zettle]

I've heard that the emphasis to Meer is too much that She has a New Image Song...

[Akirou]

A meer epi! JUST WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED!!!!!


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[DevilB0i]

Another stupid episode omfg!! Now LAcus is trying to be meer wtf!!!!!!!!!!!! Lacus must die!!!!!!!1

[3rdStrike]

hahaha look at the people after listening to dullindal's little speech except for that little girl back in the old eps.

[Akirou]

Do u mean desert girl?

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by DevilB0i:
Another stupid episode omfg!! Now LAcus is trying to be meer wtf!!!!!!!!!!!! Lacus must die!!!!!!!1
I cannot tell whether you are being serious or not but if you are serious then I would like to know how you were able to come up with such an assumption.

[ssouske]

wow... what an episode... it is a talk ep... actually almost 3/4 of the episode was dedicated to meer's electronic diary that was stored in a fat data disk... to be frank, i think they that part was brought up way too late... they could have done something like that in like ep 39 or 40... because i think it counts more like a flashback/recap... though its also not a recap since meer's life was not really shown in GSD... but i think something like this should have been done when meer was still alive... maybe she could have gotten more fans if they did something like that in the past...
ok... now, what im more interested is the other 1/4 of the ep... the part where gil delivered his speech announcing his destiny plan... everyone especially the naturals on earth had different reactions and thoughts to what gil said... even the small girl from the past had a doubtful look in her face... hmmm... if only i knew japanese... damn it... i wish mindless can go online now and make a review/summary of phase 47 so that i can understand what gil said...

one final thought: i was just wondering... where in hell did lacus' army of haros went to? near the end of GS, only pink-chan was left, which was returned to her by athrun... i just another random thought:laugh

[O-ushi]

What was funny about the ep was how everyone behaved in the speech, at first there expressions are all like "yeah!" and then afterwards Gil; talks about what he's going to do there expressions like "WTF?!".
Despite the episode being mainly about Meer, Gils Speech served as a great prologue to the Major things thats gonna happen in the final 3 episodes.

[SGLP]

What was funny about the ep was how everyone behaved in the speech, at first there expressions are all like "yeah!" and then afterwards Gil; talks about what he's going to do there expressions like "WTF?!".
Despite the episode being mainly about Meer, Gils Speech served as a great prologue to the Major things thats gonna happen in the final 3 episodes.

That almost made the episode worthwhile. However, having an episode devoted to Meer was just pointless and borderline crazy. If she meant more to the characters it would have been understandable, but they forced all this in really one episode. Anyway it was nice to see everyone questioning Dulindal's words. Only problem now is that there is only one group of people who can even do something abut it.

[ssouske]

Only problem now is that there is only one group of people who can even do something abut it.
well... they're not just any ordinary group of people... they're one hell of a group... a group with huge backers and resources... a group that was absorbed by the orb army... a group that build 3 gundams 2 of which were original designs... a group with 2 amazing ships and 4 gundams in one roof... and they're also a group that build 3 excelent non gundam MSs from scratch... and oh... do not forget the huge back up that yzak dearka and a considerable amount of zaft forces that they can get... heck i think AA and eternal is enough to take down a small zaft fleet...:P even if they add in minerva to that fleet, i think they can take those down... AA has the most number of weapons slammed in any ship... it even outguns minerva... evidence? AA has 2xlohengrin positron cannon, 2xvaliant linear cannon, 2x gottfried beam cannons, 24x helldart launcher, 16x missile launcher, and 16x Igelstellung multi barrel machine guns for CIWS... minerva, on the other hand only has, 2x tristan beam cannons, 1x isolde tripple cannon, 1x tannahauser positron cannon, 12x CIWS, and 8x missile launchers (considering that it has 4 per side) eternal, meanwhile, is the fastest ship in space... (but i think minerva can also run at that speed) so in short AA crew+the clyne faction is one hell of a group that will stand against gil's ZAFT army...
EDIT: BTW from what sentai show did those guys in your sig came from?:amuse

[Mindless]

Yoiyou dana, preview no jikan, eto...

Oh wait, english...

Well then, a quite dull and quite pointless episode in my opinion, but I guess it served some purpose. One beeing promoting a new song from Tanaka Rie (Lacus Clyne/Meer Campbell), called 'EMOTION', which in my opinion would fit perfectly as the opening song, but no, that went to Chemistry... :sad

Anyway, I'll try to make it short today since I'm going to a friends place to watch some movies tonight. :)

The episode starts out with Athrun carrying Lacus onboard the Archangel, in a (if I may) very strange manner. He held her in such a way that her very short skirt 'slid aside', and showed pretty much anyone aboard the ship her 'goodies'. I couldn't help laughing, it was so funny. Fanservice galore.

Anyway. Athrun carried her into some room that looked more like some place where you would preform an otopsy, rather than placing someone on their deathbed. While Athrun and Kira talked a bit next to where she laid on the bed, Lacus took a look inside her bag. She found a lipstick and some other things. But then she found something interesting; a data disk.

Lacus, Athrun, Kira and Meyrin took it to a computer to see what was on it. Kira opened one of the folders and found what looked to be her diary. There she had stuff written from the very day she went through the Extreme Makeover (c) untill the very day she died.

Then started the whole 'recap episode'. Meer narrated her own life to you (the viewer) from her own perspective, which was quite interesting at some points, but not really. While she continued to tell this story, they played a song, which in my opinion rivals many of the insert songs we have heard. The song would have fit like a glove for the opening, shame they gave it away to Chemistry.

As the story was drawing to a close, Athrun went out of the room, because he didn't feel like listening anymore because she brought up the whole deal with Athrun defecting. Kira went after him a while afterwards to talk to him. Didn't really get their discussion. :sad

Anyway. Lacus went to Meer again who was lying on the bed. Lacus started crying and said that she wouldn't forget her. Kira comforted Lacus. *hug*

Then, they placed Meer's body in a coffin where they had some (more like a ton) of white flowers, and then put her in some sort of shuttle or capsule, which I believe they then sent into space, in order for her to get her final rest.

Then, Dullindal revealed his plan for the world; The Destiny Plan. He explained how this world has been drawn into war time after time because of people that can't accept the fact that some are different (the coordinators). Dullindal then explained how he would 'deal' with this problem; He would create a world where people would be granted roles befitting of their skills, talents and qualities, and that this would create the 'war free world' the he speaks of. The people were thrown into confusion by this and shocked. I think people finally realized what kind of world he is going to create in order for wars to stop.

The episode ends with everyone on the Archangel making a super-serious face, especially Lacus.

Next weeks episode seems to be alot better. More mass destruction from Requiem! More!

And now a slight rant from me.

I can't understand what Gilbert is thinking. How can he seriously believe that people will just bow down and accept his ideals and believe that this is truely the only way to stop people from starting wars. Judging from peoples reactions in the latest episode, I can see no one obeying his 'orders'.

How is he going to create such a world? Force people to obey him? That alone would be enough to start conflict once more. And that brings me to my thought: Does Gilbert really want peace? He can't be wishing for peace. If he was, he wouldn't resort to such a plan. He knows people will start an uprising in order to stop the folly that he speaks of. Gilbert wants war. He wants the world to destroy itself, and him sitting at the top of the mountain, watching the people below destroying themselves as he rules supreme. He wants the world to destroy itself slowly, like a plague or disease, without him having to do anything.

[Chillin]

Hmm, this episode was pretty good I believe. As I expected some parts were more flashback than recap. The last three episodes are going to kick all forms of ass.

[staradderdragoon]

wow. it seems as if the episode isnt going to be as bad as i thought. i hope these last threee will be the best 3 episodes of anime ive ever seen. so far, i dont think anything has topped the last couple episodes of ghost in the shell SAC.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by Mindless:
How is he going to create such a world? Force people to obey him?
In the same way laws are being enforced in our world perhaps.

Originally Posted by Mindless:
Does Gilbert really want peace? He can't be wishing for peace. If he was, he wouldn't resort to such a plan.
Of course he wants peace that is why he is resorting to this plan. He believes that with the current system, wars just cannot be stopped, therefore he is trying to bring new ideas.

Originally Posted by Mindless:
He knows people will start an uprising in order to stop the folly that he speaks of.
But all revolutionaries know that what they are doing is going to start an uprising yet does that mean they want war?

[Mindless]

In the same way laws are being enforced in our world perhaps.

Yeah, that pretty much makes sense. But the thing is. Gilbert is not a ruler the people of earth have elected; he has indirectly placed himself in the position he is. (well, obviously the people of PLANT chose him as their leader, but not the people on earth)


Of course he wants peace that is why he is resorting to this plan. He believes that with the current system, wars just cannot be stopped, therefore he is trying to bring new ideas.

I still think Gilbert is too shrewd. You can never really tell what he wants. The time when Djibril fired Requiem at PLANT, Gilbert had a very unusual reaction, to say the least:

*looks at guy next to him casually*

*turns away*

Screams: "What is the meaning of this!? Where did that attack come from!?"

And later, he even said thank you to Djibril. For what? Destroying his own people? Bringing him closer to his goal, his new world? I guess I'm like Kira, I can't trust Gilbert.

But all revolutionaries know that what they are doing is going to start an uprising yet does that mean they want war?

That's true, but normally a person of Gilberts stature (more or less ruler of the world) wouldn't act as a revolutionaire. Revolutionaires (in my opinion) are minorities that strike down the current rule of a country (for example) in order to change things. Of course, looking at our own history, many people with great power have been called revolutionaires.

I still think there is more to Gilbert and his Destiny Plan than what we know right now. :)

[zeheero1982]

Can someone please post the link for next weeks preview episodes,thanks.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by Mindless:
But the thing is. Gilbert is not a ruler the people of earth have elected; he has indirectly placed himself in the position he is.
Well I do not really forsee any problems with this seeing as there are cases in real life that people do not even choose their leader. Not to mention that Orb's citizens does not really have much to say on who their leader will be, yet none claims Orb is evil.

Originally Posted by Mindless:
I still think Gilbert is too shrewd. You can never really tell what he wants.
The same could be said of Lacus yet people believes that she really wants peace. Why could they not offer Dullindal the same courtesy?

Originally Posted by Mindless:
The time when Djibril fired Requiem at PLANT, Gilbert had a very unusual reaction, to say the least:
Well it is unusual since he seemed to be acting which is quite common of a politician.

Originally Posted by Mindless:
And later, he even said thank you to Djibril. For what? Destroying his own people? Bringing him closer to his goal, his new world?
Probably the latter. Djibril provided Dullindal a scapegoat for people to blame.

Originally Posted by Mindless:
I guess I'm like Kira, I can't trust Gilbert.
Oh I do not trust him as well. All I am saying is what I have observed of him.

@zeheero1982:
http://mbs.jp/gundamseed-d/bb/gundamss48hoge.asx
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[SGLP]

well... they're not just any ordinary group of people... they're one hell of a group... a group with huge backers and resources... a group that was absorbed by the orb army... a group that build 3 gundams 2 of which were original designs... a group with 2 amazing ships and 4 gundams in one roof... and they're also a group that build 3 excelent non gundam MSs from scratch... and oh... do not forget the huge back up that yzak dearka and a considerable amount of zaft forces that they can get... heck i think AA and eternal is enough to take down a small zaft fleet...:P even if they add in minerva to that fleet, i think they can take those down... AA has the most number of weapons slammed in any ship... it even outguns minerva... evidence? AA has 2xlohengrin positron cannon, 2xvaliant linear cannon, 2x gottfried beam cannons, 24x helldart launcher, 16x missile launcher, and 16x Igelstellung multi barrel machine guns for CIWS... minerva, on the other hand only has, 2x tristan beam cannons, 1x isolde tripple cannon, 1x tannahauser positron cannon, 12x CIWS, and 8x missile launchers (considering that it has 4 per side) eternal, meanwhile, is the fastest ship in space... (but i think minerva can also run at that speed) so in short AA crew+the clyne faction is one hell of a group that will stand against gil's ZAFT army...
EDIT: BTW from what sentai show did those guys in your sig came from?:amuse

Well I know that, I'm just surprised on how well his plan actually went. Besides the Archangel and to some extent Orb throwing wrenches in his plan it went of relatively unhitched. You don't see that very often. He is totally in position to do what he wants. And they are from Mahou Sentai Magiranger. Check out www.tvnihon.com.



I can't understand what Gilbert is thinking. How can he seriously believe that people will just bow down and accept his ideals and believe that this is truely the only way to stop people from starting wars. Judging from peoples reactions in the latest episode, I can see no one obeying his 'orders'.

How is he going to create such a world? Force people to obey him? That alone would be enough to start conflict once more. And that brings me to my thought: Does Gilbert really want peace? He can't be wishing for peace. If he was, he wouldn't resort to such a plan. He knows people will start an uprising in order to stop the folly that he speaks of. Gilbert wants war. He wants the world to destroy itself, and him sitting at the top of the mountain, watching the people below destroying themselves as he rules supreme. He wants the world to destroy itself slowly, like a plague or disease, without him having to do anything.

That's the brillance of Dulindal. ZAFT is so powerful that if anyone were to try and fight back they could be easily handled. He played everyone like a fool. And now that he has Requiem he can simply blast everyone into submission.
I know he hates that he couldn't finish off Orb. Too bad his overconfidence will be the end of him.

[Mindless]

Too bad his overconfidence will be the end of him.

I wonder about that.

Since it seems very apparent that there will be yet another sequel in the Cosmic Era universe. That's what they have been talking about at least. And I find it very hard to believe that they will be able to wrap up all the loose ends in the story right now, before the end.

For all we know, the war may not end and Gilbert sits as the ruler of the world in the end, and this war will continue in the next Cosmic Era based Gundam.

But then again, these are only speculations from my part.

EDIT: Finally someone has made it: The Lacus + Meer Death Dance. It's hilarious! :laugh

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2179/meerdeathdance4ru.gif

[Son_Pan]

uh...okay. weird.

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2410/dzz00000img396x600112614630807.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7940/lunarcanals4xk.jpg
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^ AHH!!! these two are so cute!

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^LOL. believe it.

and thass it...

[Chillin]

Freakin' excellent Mindless. I knew someone would do something along those lines eventually.

[xeleron]

How would creating a world which works according to ones potential stop a war? There will always be lazy people who never bother to find their potentials, and hard working people who would expand their talents beyond their potential. Even co-ordinators need to work hard on their hidden powers, and even within co-ordinators, there are differences between ability such as Kira vs. everyone else. Hence, there will always be a differences between Earthlings and plantlings, and jealousy comes to create a wear. By specifically saying who can do what according to their differences, will make Earthling hate co-ordinators even more. Gilbert's ideal makes no sense to me.

[Chopstickx]

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/4061/shinnkira9pl.th.jpg (http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/4061/shinnkira9pl.jpg)
is it me or does Kira look kinda queer in this one?...

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http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9471/stellargaia7aw.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9471/stellargaia7aw.jpg)
^i think this one is old...why would Stellar still be in the Newtypes? o_O but yea w/e.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8227/gsddvdcover77fc.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8227/gsddvdcover77fc.jpg)
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2977/gsddvd7kira7hq.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2977/gsddvd7kira7hq.jpg) http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/161/lunamaria21sz.th.jpg (http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/161/lunamaria21sz.jpg)

^these 2 are old too, but i dun think theyve been posted here.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9555/shinnasuka29mt.th.jpg (http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/9555/shinnasuka29mt.jpg)

[staradderdragoon]

he does look kind of queer. man, ive noticed a lot of down activity in this forum now.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by xeleron:
How would creating a world which works according to ones potential stop a war?
If the people's jobs are assigned to them and the government made sure that they excel in these fields and make them happy then I do doubt many would even harbor that much ambition.

Originally Posted by xeleron:
Even co-ordinators need to work hard on their hidden powers
Yes and theoretically under the Destiny plan, people would focus more of their energy in doing the jobs in which they are assigned, therefore decreasing the chances of rebellion.

Originally Posted by xeleron:
By specifically saying who can do what according to their differences
I am sorry but can you clarify on this one?


@Chopstickx:Thanks for the scans.

[ssouske]

wow great pictures from everybody... especially the gif from midless :laugh and and the luna figure from S_P...

I think they will have a very hard time explaining a lot of things in 3 episodes... 1st of all, they have not explained how mwu survived, 2nd who really did orchestrate this war? (i assume that gil was the one that was behind that terror attack and that everyone else was just used by gil...) well ... i think they still have more to explain but i ran out of ideas...:P so with that pre assumption, i think a new sequel should be made... something better ... something that can be a proper ending to the cosmic era universe... because right now, Destiny kinda is not enough...

[Wave]

heh. okay if this hasn't been mentioned...then yeah. then its a definite 3rd Cosmic Era series. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gundam_Seed_Destiny#Trivia
wikipedia has to be right ;x

[ssouske]

interesting... si wikipedia has already declared cosmic era as a trilogy... hmmm... i wonder where they get their info...:blink as of what most of us know a 3rd CE series is still a rumor...

[Mindless]

Well, there has been some news on Gunota Headlines regarding a 3rd and final Gundam SEED anime. They did say more info regarding this would be released at some anime convention in 2006. They have also said that a standalone Cosmic Era gundam is beeing produced (or in planning) and was due to 2009 or something like that.

Gunota has pretty good sources so I believe we can take them seriously.

And if I'm wrong: I only read this on Gunota, don't argue with me, argue with them. :)

[dspr8_rugged]

If there's going to be another Cosmic Era Gundam series (though if we're talking of a new Gundam series, I'd rather see a whole new one rather than a sequel of something...), I wish it would be a lot different from Destiny. I seriously don't like the recent episodes of Destiny and how they developed characters - really bad.

A stand-alone CE Gundam series would work, though I wish it won't feature ANY of the old SEED cast. Cameos are good, but interfering too much is a different thing, IMO.

But of course, that's just me.

[darksage78]

Note that the Bandai official said that there would be more CE series if the third one is popular. Hopefully it will be if its a standalone series with few cameos.

[staradderdragoon]

interesting... si wikipedia has already declared cosmic era as a trilogy... hmmm... i wonder where they get their info...:blink as of what most of us know a 3rd CE series is still a rumor...

people submit their own definitions. so its not always entirely accurate.

[ssouske]

wow mindless i love your new avatar...:amuse
anyway, i am looking forward for another CE series... for me, GSD kinda ruined CE for me... so i want a new CE series that will definitely clean up the damage that GSD has done... hopefully, fukuda or some other director will have new things in the new series if it indeed becomes real... and im also looking forward to see that stand alone CE series...:amuse i think it will be better if they do it with a fresh set of characters and less appearances from the oldies...

[staradderdragoon]

yes. but i hope that the designer will have the same design calibur as that of GSD regardless of the storyline.

[SGLP]

Yes and theoretically under the Destiny plan, people would focus more of their energy in doing the jobs in which they are assigned, therefore decreasing the chances of rebellion.

This really doesn't matter as people won't even desire to rebel. Hell they won't desire to anything. They will just be doing what they are assigned and that's it.

I find the chance of another C.E. series very appealing. Only if we get a 5 or so year gap though. That's one of the things I hate about Destiny.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by MagiRed:
This really doesn't matter as people won't even desire to rebel. Hell they won't desire to anything. They will just be doing what they are assigned and that's it.
No, they won't... Destiny Plan is only about assigning jobs to people based on their capacity.

[Jujubie]

I guess my thoughts on Destiny Plan were wrong. I didn't read the spoilers too well. I thought Destiny Plan would be Brave New World and BatMS thought Destiny Plan would be Gattaca. But does Dullindal have anyway to enfore this plan? If most people just bow down to him without rebelling, then I'd be: "WTF? Does Dullindal look like a Messiah or God to you fools?"

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by Jujubie:
But does Dullindal have anyway to enfore this plan? If most people just bow down to him without rebelling, then I'd be: "WTF? Does Dullindal look like a Messiah or God to you fools?"
In real life Destiny Plan is absurd, however since this is anime there are a lot more ridiculous things than Destin Plan...

[3rdStrike]

I guess my thoughts on Destiny Plan were wrong. I didn't read the spoilers too well. I thought Destiny Plan would be Brave New World and BatMS thought Destiny Plan would be Gattaca. But does Dullindal have anyway to enfore this plan? If most people just bow down to him without rebelling, then I'd be: "WTF? Does Dullindal look like a Messiah or God to you fools?"


Well when the world is in a state of chaos, people are always looking for a leader. Take Germany in WWII for an example, exterminating the Jews was kinda riduclous but guess what, the Germans who were suffering immensely because they have to help the country pay its debt for WWI didn't really give a fuck about morals, values and ethics. I mean if following Hitler was the way to get out of the hard life, why not? Well, of course you can't exactly compare this case to Destiny Plan.

Same here, if DESTINY PLAN is the only way to end war, why not? Of course there are the intelligent ones who aren't suffering as much and are at a conscious state (Kira and Co.) that understand the consequences to this act and go against it.

My point is, when a human is lost, confused, frustrated about everything, they lose their "right mind of thinking" and ultimately follow whatever solution is put right in front of them.

[O-ushi]

I recently watched an ep of Star Trek TNG where they encounter a society that lives with something almost identical to the Destiny Plan.

Basically Enterprise moves in to help after detecting a small asteroid heading for a human colony, on what was thought to be a deserted planet. They contact the leader of the Colony and offers to evacuate the people, but the leader refuses, saying that it would destroy his genetically engineered society. Apparently the colony was created to created a perfect society, a genectic balance, where a persons role in society is determined at birth according to there DNA, and that those that are born with deficiencies are killed as they would alter the colonies genetic balance.

The ep was titled "The Masterpiece Society", quite a good ep, I suggest people check it out sometime.

[Jujubie]

Dullindal did a Hitler

Sorry I didn't post a direct link for GSD dl Ssouske. My internet was disabled this weekend so I couldn't post anything nor could I enjoy playing with some mirc noobs on the chan. lol

[Hunter]

Origiinally Posted by 3rdStrike:
the Germans who were suffering immensely because they have to help the country pay its debt for WWI didn't really give a fuck about morals, values and ethics.
Morals, values and ethics change through time. What is morally acceptable today might become a horrid crime in the future.

Originally Posted by 3rdStrike:
Of course there are the intelligent ones who aren't suffering as much and are at a conscious state (Kira and Co.) that understand the consequences to this act and go against it.
You do not need to suffer nor do you need to be stupid to follow the Destiny Plan. In my opinion one of the main reasons Kira and co. are against it is most likely because they would not be able to wield any power to do anything.

Originally Posted by O-ushi:
Apparently the colony was created to created a perfect society
Apparently this is and the genetic manipulation part are the only things I find in common with Destiny Plan, with the given information of course.

[ssouske]

Sorry I didn't post a direct link for GSD dl Ssouske. My internet was disabled this weekend so I couldn't post anything nor could I enjoy playing with some mirc noobs on the chan. lol

awww its ok jujubie... we still love you for posting those direct DL links in the past...:amuse i hope you could post them in the future...

[Kiba-kun]

I present to you: Orange-chan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/Scar-san/Orange-chanearsclosed.jpg

[3rdStrike]

Please forgive me if my rationales are vague.


Morals, values and ethics change through time. What is morally acceptable today might become a horrid crime in the future.

True. But that also goes with what is a horrid crime today might be morally acceptable in future. However, you're not getting my point. My point isn't really about morals NOT changing. But they idea that people at that time don't give a shit about morals and all that jazz. They would rather make another race suffer in order to make themselves suffer less. Same here in GSD, people might give up the capability of having a desire for a peaceful world.




You do not need to suffer nor do you need to be stupid to follow the Destiny Plan. In my opinion one of the main reasons Kira and co. are against it is most likely because they would not be able to wield any power to do anything.

Then what do you have to be in order to follow the DESTINY plan?
War is caused by never ending desires of humanity. This desire causes people to suffer. The desire of the people suffered in war is to get revenge or to find a solution to end the war. I mean if everyone lived peacefully, there wouldn't be a war. And if there isn't any war, DESTINY PLAN is not needed at all.


AND KIBA-KUN, that haro is so COOL.

[Ken_shiro]

destiny plan sounds alot like the society in the film equilibrium

[Jh1stgen]

This thread pretty much = dead ... wonders why *cough *last3episodessuxplotdevelopmentisruined

[ssouske]

I present to you: Orange-chan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/Scar-san/Orange-chanearsclosed.jpg

lol! that owns meer's haro by 10 times! hahaha! how about making a grapefruit-chan or something... just kidding:laugh

[staradderdragoon]

omg. that is the definition of ownage. nice one kiba-kun

[3rdStrike]

This thread pretty much = dead ... wonders why *cough *last3episodessuxplotdevelopmentisruined

agree.

*3rdStrike goes and watches her latest fav. anime - Trinity Blood.* :kukuku



somehow, i just want to create a fanclub for us who :love Gundam SEED.

[Inquisitor]

Tisk tisk. To see a series that began with a great deal of potential stumble and underperform is a sad thing. What might be worse than that, is watching said series improve markedly as it neared its end and actually rapidly grow into a compelling show only to collapse three episodes from the end. Pitiful. Simply pathetic. Alas, if the ending isn't fantastic then surely the series will be considered a failure.

[Chillin]

I guess we have to see how people react to this Destiny Plan. I'm excited for the last three episodes. I think it can be a strong finish; they have plenty of time.

[Freija]

zzzZz long time no see, sup in here ?

[Kiba-kun]

One way to redeem Destiny for me: have Kira, Athrun and Lacus lose to Dullindal, with one of them at least seriously injured - setting the scene for a third series properly.

[Mindless]

Long time everyone, well, a week.

Expect the preview in a couple of hours. The RAW that is out is huge (you can find it at Tokyotoshokan) and will take a while to download. I'll try to have the preview done later today.

[Martes13]

chapter 47 sux a lot.

We don't see nothing really new. There aren't nice scenes... we only know a bit about rey and all is done for the battle in the next chapter.

:S

[Akirou]

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http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/5514/20050917115eb.jpg
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/1638/20050917124sl.jpg

Preview:

http://mbs.jp/gundamseed-d/bb/gundamss49re.asx
http://mbs.jp/gundamseed-d/bb/gundamss49re.ram

[Mindless]

Oh, Akatsuki with DRAGOON's in the next episode. Looking forward to it.

RAW still not done yet for me, very big, and going quite slow. :sad

[SGLP]

No, they won't... Destiny Plan is only about assigning jobs to people based on their capacity.

If that was the case Dulindal wouldn't be talking about having people not desire to do things. You can't stop people from desiring.

[Mindless]

Oh yeah, we'll be seeing some METEOR units in the next episode too. :P

And I was quite surprised, Rey, infront of Shinn, openly admitted he was a clone, and that he didn't have much longer to live because of that fact.

And to be honest, everything points towards Shinn defecting in the very end. After what he heard from Rey in this episode, he became really unsure of what he has been doing all this time.

[SGLP]

And I was quite surprised, Rey, infront of Shinn, openly admitted he was a clone, and that he didn't have much longer to live because of that fact.


I couldn't believe what I was seeing/hearing. He really is pulling out all the stops to make up Shinn's mind for him. I really liked this episode as finally got to see more of Rey. The next few episodes look like they will be action packed.

[staradderdragoon]

was it just me, or were there multiple kusanagis?

[Chrno]

Looked like there were, the original and some others guess it went into mass production o.o

[3rdStrike]

AHHH, return of the blue and white pills.
Do we get to know more a little bit about Rey's past?


BUT I WANT MORE ACTION - like more JUSTICE and FREEDOM.

[Jujubie]

WOW. GSD THREAD is DEAD. Mindless hasn't even posted summary. And, Hiro already released their subbed version 4 hours ago. Here it is: http://bt.nanashi-fansubs.com:2710/torrents/e94be354173462b80cf5668f4fd196beb09f32b9.torrent
No direct dl this time it seems since the usual supplier is lazy haha.

[Chillin]

Looks like everyone will be trying to own the hell out of each other in the next episode. I think Rey might go crazy or something.

[ssouske]

For the multiple kusanagis, the izumo class is ORB's space battle ship... so it is not that surprising to see many of them stationed in copernicus... what surprised me was the sheer number of ships that launched with eternal... it was like i think 2 laurasia class carriers, 2 nazcaa class destroyers, and i think 4 250meter/nelson class ships... either the clyne faction had a lot of supporters or lacus has a huge private army... shes one scarry woman...:S it would be fun if we see a cameo of re-HOME again resupplying AA in the last 2 eps...
METEOr units again in the next ep... and we finally see how mwu/neo will do with dragoons... (obviously he can do great and can kick a ton of asses) hmmm... i wonder if shinn can actually dodge every single shot that comes out of that meteor+justice unit... im really looking forward to see more freedom and justice and dom troopers...

[santosj]

Two episodes to determine whether or not Shinn, Gilbert, and Rey survive, let alone whether the red haired chick that is whoring herself out to Shinn is going to die or not.

I think that if the next Gundam is another Seed, that they should at least totally destroy the world and everyone one on it. Or have it in the far future when Kira and friends are long dead or too old to fight. You could have them like old men and women who send children down to Earth to defeat the evil earth alliance and a secret evil military power. At least one of them is an annoying American, and one who is a robot (well, not really, but is emotionless and moves like a machine).

[Jujubie]

FINALLY! Rey admits he's a clone. Whoosh. That took long enough.

[ssouske]

sorry santosj luna aint no whore... if you want to call someone a whore, its frey/fllay... or maybe meer, at certain times... but lunamaria hawke is no whore... i like the way she handles herself... she did not go berserk or anything like frey and she is doing well beyond my expectations of her... she may be a bad pilot from time to time but she can also do whatever is necessary... and besides shinn and luna have yet to do a similar scene to kira and frey's/fllay's

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by ssouske:
if you want to call someone a whore, its frey/fllay... or maybe meer
Fllay only slept with one guy and she is called a whore? And Meer she has not even slept with anybody...

[Zuttasoxx]

It's better to say that Fllay is a BITCH, not a whore.

[ssouske]

okay okay... they're not whores... they're bitches...:P

[darksage78]

Just watched 48 and geez they're just submitting themselves to the Destiny plan... And what was up with that chibi action? Yes I admit it was funny but cmon in the last 3 eps of a Gundam Series, there should be more action.


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/darksage_78/Luna2.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/darksage_78/Luna.jpg

After seeing those, I'm pretty sure Luna will die now. In my mind its probably like 90% or higher that she'll die. Those clips made up like 10% and the 80% just came from Shinn saying that he'll protect her lol

[Akirou]

it wouldnt hurt my feelings if she bit the dust.

Shinn: WHY DOES EVERYTHING I TOUCH DIE?!

Poor boy. You'd think he'd learn.

[darksage78]

it wouldnt hurt my feelings if she bit the dust.

Shinn: WHY DOES EVERYTHING I TOUCH DIE?!

Poor boy. You'd think he'd learn.
XD If only Luna knew about Shinn and Stellar. Not the semi-relationship, but the promise that Shinn made.

[ssouske]

well... that maybe true... but seeing how shinn reacted everytime someone close to him dies, i think that might prevent him from switching sides to AA... well... maybe if it was rey that killed luna, it maybe a different story...:P what i want now is more justice, more freedom, more dom troopers and more destiny... and MORE YZAK AND DEARKA!!!

[SGLP]

I wonder who Luna will be going against? Neo? He's the only one really left over. I don't see her doing well against him and Akatsuki at all and that may lead to those facial expressions. Shinn'll be too busy to protect her too.

[Son_Pan]

I'm Pretty sure that it will be Rey who strikes Lunamaria. Seeing how she isnt a threat to athrun or kira. Lunamaria will probably try to persude shinn, and rey will be like, "bictH!" and then he'd strike her down. and then Shinn would go off in rage, and attack Rey. Rey has been giving her bad looks, and is pushing her away from him and shinn, anyway.

I still think Luna is cool. and I still believe she will survive.

newtype october:
http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shinnrey006co.jpg
i cant stand it, but this is probably the only time i'll say that shinn looks hot...

edit:


it wouldnt hurt my feelings if she bit the dust.

Shinn: WHY DOES EVERYTHING I TOUCH DIE?!

Poor boy. You'd think he'd learn.

funny, werent you just defending the couple awhile back?

[Chopstickx]

^i agree. i think it'll be Rey. hes proabably thinking like "shes a liability...she has a big effect on his mind/thoughts." and yeaa, tries to kill her or something.

thx for the scan too S_P :]

and this place really is dead. i havent come in here in forever so i expected like a billion of pages, but guess not. so is it me or are ppl getting a bit bored with Destiny? or either a lot busier?

[staradderdragoon]

well. i know ppl r getting bored with destiny. i just cant wait till it finishes. but also, i mean the average age around here is about 16 am i right? or am i wrong? like im a junior in high school so i dont have that much time to post my butt off on forums.

[Son_Pan]

lol! oh god, for a second there, i was like, 'you're in junior high!??'

so you're a year older then me huh? damn, i feel so young. but then again, theres chopps! hey freshman! :P

im just playin' :laugh

[Chopstickx]

^ahah you better be lol.

i thought he said he was in junior high too hahah. and well now, looks like everyone heres got lives ey? =p

[ssouske]

i noticed something in HLJ... bandai is releasing another HG mechanics meteor model... and this time it says its for GSD and just like the first HG mechanics meteor, it will also have 3 rubber MS figures... Strike Freedom, Infinite Justice, and... no its not legend... its... Akatsuki...:blink

EDIT: Sorry about those deleted posts below... the forum was not responding and so i pressed submit a "couple of times":P...

[ElelloN]

Haha, submit buttons can be evil :P

[DeathGuise_of_Oblivion]

Is it just me, or does Gilberts Destiny Plan sound incredibly like Plato's Republic. I mean, someone's destiny being related to three types of class. Everything pre-determind and even those people in suits taking away anyone who is in the wrong place. All of this was in Plato's Republic(only instead of a card, your place was determind by a metal[copper, silver, and gold] in your nose that was determind by tghe perople who already had gold in their nose)

In fact the only thing thats not in the Destiny Plan that was in Plato's Republic is the sharing of children and women for the top class.

[DevilB0i]

dulllindal just pissed my of firing requiem wtf!! that bastard needs to die in a the longest, slowest painful death ever.

[Laughing@you]

Damn this forum has hit an all time low. What happened with Gundam fever? Has Fukuda killed the Gundam sensation?..

[Mindless]

Destiny is drawing to a close. It's not really that much to discuss anymore since most of the stuff has been 'taken care of' in the anime. It's sad to say, but Destiny's final episode is next weekend.

And eventhough Destiny is (will be) finished, there will still be more to discuss. If the ending of Destiny turns out to be a big cliffhanger, I am sure there will be alot of talk and speculating here on the boards. At least I hope so...

Myself, I'll be here untill the next Gundam anime comes along, because in the meantime, I got gundam models to build, so I'll probably be posting frequently in the Gundam Modelling thread. :)

[SGLP]

I'm Pretty sure that it will be Rey who strikes Lunamaria. Seeing how she isnt a threat to athrun or kira. Lunamaria will probably try to persude shinn, and rey will be like, "bictH!" and then he'd strike her down. and then Shinn would go off in rage, and attack Rey. Rey has been giving her bad looks, and is pushing her away from him and shinn, anyway.

I still think Luna is cool. and I still believe she will survive.


This is what I originally thought as well. I'm not saying Neo takes her out or anything just that he goes against her instead of just taking out useless suits and whatnot. Even though it wouldn't be much of a fight.

I'm hoping she dies and Rey is the one to do it. She should have told Shinn a long time ago about what she saw and heard when she followed Athrun.

[Chillin]

If Luna bites the dust I won't even care. It seems like girls drop like flies in Destiny. Actually they all deserved it in some way (well except Meer but as soon as she did the dramatic spin she deserved it).

[Chopstickx]

man why do yall hate her so much? >>

yeaa, im not all happy-happy about Destiny like i was before now. and if this thread is dead (hey that rhymed...) enough right then its gonna be hella dead once Destinys over.

btw, the Honoo no Tobira single came out. this cover ft. Cagalli.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4371/gsd018zr.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4371/gsd018zr.jpg)

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/787/seedsofdestiny6aq.th.jpg (http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/787/seedsofdestiny6aq.jpg)

[Chillin]

Honoo no Tobira debuted at number 2 on the Japanese sale charts. Seems like Destiny's music is selling really well. It's no surprise since most of it is really good.

[Mindless]

Honoo no Tobira debuted at number 2 on the Japanese sale charts. Seems like Destiny's music is selling really well. It's no surprise since most of it is really good.

Indeed. The insert songs have been very good in Destiny, no surprise at all that they are doing well. :)

On a sidenote: Ever thought about how the F91 also leaves a light trail after itself when Seabook went into 'newtype-mode'? It's very similar to the mirage-colloid light trail that Destiny leaves after. I was rewatching it now and I just realized it. :amuse

[O-ushi]

Just watched ep48:tem
Shinn and Rey are going to Messiah. So its going to be Minerva and Luna/Impulse against AA? If Mu/Akatsuki is gonna be protecting AA then Luna is gonna have it tough.
And when the heck did Clyne Faction/Terminal have the huge fleet?:blink
Andy says the magic word, the ships come out of nowhere behind Eternal and Im like:err
I was hoping that Destiny and Legend would get engine upgrades at some point. But I dont think they'll be enough time for that. The end of 48 was like the start of the main bout.
From the preview it seems that Kira aint gonna use METEOR when going up agaisnt Legend, proberly thinks it would end up getting trashed.:laugh

PS Any confirmation on whether Messiah has beam sheilds protecting it?:huh

[Chillin]

If Kira is indeed going to the Messiah this must mean that he and Dullindal will have a sword fight! My (joke) prediction may come true after all!

[ssouske]

ok... its already friday night here... tomorrow is another GSD day... i re-watched GS from the ep where kira saves AA in alaska to the end... and if the last 2 GSD eps will follow GS, here is what we might see... curse of the hand-me-down mobile suits might fall upon luna and mwu(again)... 3 DOM pilots might die just like mayura, julie, and asagi(the famous 3 astray girls). yzak and dearka might switch sides... re-home might also make another cameo appearance, athrun loosing his gundam for the 4th time... rey and dully getting killed in the action... most likely, kira might kill one of them... and S-F getting damaged pretty bad... thats all...:amuse

[Gun-damn]

if u guys watch the preview for 49 properly, the dom blowing up the zaku is damged(has a missing arm) , so it looks like they might just die. kira is using his meteor, u can see in the preview wen those red beams are shot, and justice and freedom get out of the way.

[O-ushi]

For those who can't wait, episode 50 preview

http://mbs.jp/gundamseed-d/bb/gundamss50e.asx

http://mbs.jp/gundamseed-d/bb/gundamss50e.ram

screenshots:

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/5402/50final8ze.jpg

[Mindless]

I knew there was something fishy with Messiah, but I never imagined that they would have built a Genesis cannon in it. :)

And Strike Freedom does have wings of light. :P

And I wonder what they are refering to as the 'Final Strenght' (as the episode is called). Kira? Shinn? Genesis Mk.II? :huh

[O-ushi]

With the WOL on Strike Freedom being activated against Destiny, whats happened to the Dragoons then? Maybe they got destroyed? Or Maybe it Strike Freedom Vs Destiny and Super Dragoons Vs Legend/Rey? That would be neat.

[Kiba-kun]

Oh, GREAT. Another GENESIS! How original. *waves the world's tiniest flag*

Seriously, these last two episodes better have some BIG surprises up their sleeve or I'm going to be seriously pissed.

[Chillin]

Finally S-F gets the WoL, even if they are just a cool effect :P

Seems as though Shinn looks mad or distraught, he must think that Kira killed Rey or Luna.

So I guess it is true that Dullindal really wanted to destroy everything :mad . I know Kira goes to stop him. I think Kira may activate a HUGE beam shield (S-F is the MS with the strongest beam shields and the size can change depending on the situation) or he may just move Dullindal to tears and get him to stop (impossible). Then again he could just self destruct Strike Freedom in Messiah and accidently wipe out all of the remaining PLANTs with its ridiculous power.

[ssouske]

WTF?!? Genesis again? and i thought requiem was already enough for a weapon of mass destruction... so now how will GSD end? will it end like GS, where kira w/ a massively damaged S-F stabs Legend with the beam lance right in front of genesis which already started to fire its nuke gamma ray of death??? will messiah's SD system tied to the genesis' shot just like yakin due? will we see legend blocking the nuke gamma beam before it touches the mirror reflector?
BTW: why is GSD's phase 50 preview already out? usually it comes out after the show airs in japan right? and it won't air for 12 or more hours right?

[Mindless]

I believe the reason for the early preview is that the episode aired today in Japan. I think there was some talk about the two last (or one of them) was to be aired one day earlier or one day later than usual.

I might be wrong though. :P

[O-ushi]

MSV - Dom Troopers (Original Spec):
I believe these are the Dom Troopers that were shafted in favour of the Zaku. Simply put, if Zaft had proceeded with Dom Project instead of Zaku they would have looked like these.
After Terminal stole the Dom Project, they also deleated everything about the Dom Project from Zafts database. Terminal might have been actually behind the Dom Project losing to the competion.
That does sound like Terminal style of doing things:amuse

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/6507/dommsv6lb.jpg
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/77/dommsvx2wh.jpg
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4682/dommsvy4vy.jpg

[ssouske]

wow... good thing lacus took those DOM troopers... its not that they suck but that huge shield with a hole sucks... and a drill lance? the what in hell can that do to destiny and legend's PS armor? the only thing i found cool for the original spec is the twin bazookas... its the same beam bazooka as the current one have right? as for the backpack, it reminds me of the blaze wizard pack...

[O-ushi]

Well the new Dom Troopers can use Zaku's various Wizard pack. It would be nice seeing Gunner, Blaze, and Slash Dom Troopers:amuse

[Mindless]

I'll wait for the Saiyaman RAW because frankly, the other RAW's suck ass. :sad

It should be out in a couple of hours so expect a preview later today. :)

[Martes13]

You can found the raw (good one) in http://www.tokyotosho.com/ Size: 235.27MiB

Please, when you do spoilers of the end, use the tag of the spoiler.

We are in the end and it is supposed that there are big changes. Don't fuck to all the people the end, pls :D It's better to see yourself.

I wish a good end... the last ones chapters weren't very good.

[Zellianne Zettle]

the funny thing about ep 49:
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/3434/11275546034226qn.jpg
lol

[ElelloN]

Is that what I think it is? If so, Fukuda has really gone out of ideas!

[O-ushi]

Just finished watching the ep, it was nicely paced actually, didnt seem too rushed or anything, but Im expecting the last episode to be rushed.
Akatsuki Dragoons are just like Nu Gundams Funnels, very nice.:amuse
What I found amusing was that even though the episode was titled "Rey", let me assure everyone this aint a recap ep.:P

[Mindless]

I've never used spoiler tags for my previews and I don't intend to start now.

<PEOPLE: READ FURTHER AT YOUR OWN RISK!>

A quite good episode today. It really made me happy! You'll know why if you keep reading.

Episode starts out with the Archangel and Eternal initiating their attack on one of the mirror blocks to Requiem while part of the ORB fleet takes care of the actual cannon (Requiem). Meanwhile, Shinn and Rey launches in Destiny and Legend to head to Messiah to talk to Gilbert a bit, and use them as a 'final defense' at Messiah (you will know why later).

Kira and Athrun launches in Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice. Here comes the first thing that made me happy: They deploy the METEOR units and use them with Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice. Then they head out to destroy this mirror block in order to prevent Requiem from attacking earth. Meanwhile, Lacus sends out a message to the ZAFT forces that they will now proceed in destroying one of Requiems mirror blocks and that they would like them to stand down. She clearky explains to them that such a weapon is not needed in order to maintain or attain peace, it's just a weapon of mass destruction. And that if they still take honor in wearing that uniform, they should open a way for them in order to destroy the mirror block and Requiem.

Meanwhile, Shinn and Rey goes into Gilberts room that is very similar to the one in the final Star Wars movie where Dark Sidious sits in his chair.

At the mirror block, all the ZAFT forces are too dumbstruck by Lacus speech that they let Kira and Athrun trough most of their defenses without a fight. Then some ZAFT commanding officer tells them to initiate the attack on the Archangel and Eternal, as well as Kira and Athrun. I don't know but, as they start attacking, Athrun and Kira shoots down so many mobile suits that if you would compare it to the slaughter in a zombie movie, the zombie movie would be nothing.

Meanwhile, Yzak on his ship is hesitating and pissed off at Athrun and them because they ended up fighting on different sides, despite having the same ideals... once again. The ZAFT fleet intensifies their attack on the Three Ship Alliance (only two present, the Archangel and Eternal), and tries to push them back.

Shinn and Rey are still talking to Gilbert, and Gilbert points out that Shinn looks pale, and says it's understandable since he has been trough alot of things in a short time. Then Gilbert and Rey start with their mind games, talking to eachother as if they were having a real conversation, but infact they are talking Shinn into fighting for them.

During this time, the Minerva along with most of the ZAFT fleet arrived at the mirror block in order to stop the Three Ship Alliance.

Rey and Gilbert continues their conversation. Gilbert says that he dosen't want to fight anymore, but that they (the Three Ship Alliance), and Rey wholeheartedly agrees with him, saying that they don't listen to reason, and only follow what they want to do. Then Gilbert asks Shinn if he feels the same. Shinn thinks for a while, but decides that he thinks the same way as Rey.

Now finally to the episodes main event: 'Neo Lorrnoke' going into battle with Akatsuki. Wow, I almost peed my pants here. This part is awsome. Somewhat cliché, but awsome. Also, this time Akatsuki is using a DRAGOON pack. :)

Some Murasame units launch too aswell as the DOM Troopers. Then over at Yzak's ship. Dearka contacts Yzak, asking him what to do and Yzak tells him: "If that's how you are why the hell did you go out in the first place!?" - "Gah! I'm going out too!".

Out on the battlefield, Talia is having second thoughts, looking back at her time in ORB and when she first met Murrue. She tells herself that she too has the same ideals, but right now there is no helping it. She has her own ideals to protect. She decides that the Minerva will go up front to battle against the Archangel and tells Lunamaria to launch in Impulse. Then we have some scenes with Mwu and the Murasame crew kicking some major ass.

The Minverva vs. Archangel duel starts. Captain vs. Captain. Lunamaria has now launched in Impulse, and Meyrin sees it on the screen aboard the Eternal. Then she screams on the radio: "Nee-san, stop! Why do you fight!? Why do you fight!? Why can't you see which Lacus is the real one!?" -Luna begins hesitating. Then comes the DOM trio, seeing Impulse drifting around in space. The chick in the trio decides: "Lets take this one down.", they do their little Jet Stream Attack, but with little effect. One shot brazes the right shoulder and the other one hits the shield. Didn't really inflict any serious damage, but Meyrin gets a little scared.

Then, to the episodes main event (in my opinion). The Minerva actives their Tannhauser cannon to shoot at the Archangel, I think you can see where this is leading already... anyway. They activate their Tannhauser and take aim at the Archangel. Murrue starts thinking of how to evade the shot but realizes if they evade it, the Eternal will get hit and most likely completely destroyed. They shoot the Tannhauser and the shot is heading straight for the Archangels bridge, but then...!!!!!!

*woosh* Akatsuki comes in between.

*Mwu tries to deflect the shot*

*Mwu says: "I wont let you take the Archangel down!".

*Mwu gets a flashback to his past life and remembers everything that he had forgotten, Murrue, the Archangels crew, how they found him in space, how they altered his memories, everything*

*Mwu takes out the Minervas Tannhauser cannon*

AAAAAAAAAAAAH! AWSOME!

Then Mwu contacts the Archangels bridge saying: "It's OK. From now on, I'm not going anywhere." - "Let us end this and go home... Murrue."

While he said that, he used his DRAGOONs to create a similar forcefield to that of the Nu Gundam, around the Archangel. really cool actually. I wonder if Strike Freedom can do something similar to that?

The Athrun and Kira's battle continues against the ZAFT forces in order to take out the mirror block. Some missiles are heading for Justice but then comes Yzak and blows them up. He asks what the hell he's doing and tells him to blow up that thing already.

Then Athrun and Kira uses thoes big ass beam swords on the METEOR units and cuts the mirror block in two. Then they head for Requiem in order to destroy that. Meanwhile, the ORB fleet is in process of destroying Requiem. A few Kusanagi-class ships shoot off their main cannons at it, but it's protected with three big anti-beam shields. All ZAFT forces head out to gather at the Messiah while Shinn and Rey launch in their respective mobile suits in order to fend off the 'intruders'. Then, over the moons horizon they see Messiah coming up. They fire a shot, with the weapon so cleverly called, hear and be astounded: Neo Genesis, it's too clever.

The shot from Neo Genesis destroys most of the ORB fleet. Then they start the final battle. Athrun vs. Shinn, Kira vs. Rey. Rey says to himself: "Kira Yamato, your existance alone is unforgivable." -and you see an image of Klueze.

Episode ends. I hope you will enjoy the episode as much as I did. :)

[Chillin]

This episode was great. When I saw Mu block the Tannhauser I was like "Man...don't tell me he's going to "die" again from the same shit", but that scene was pretty well played out. I wonder...

how they are going to fit Kira vs. Rey, Athrun vs. Shinn, possibly Kira going to the Messiah, and the aftermath of the battle all in one episode

[O-ushi]

Is it just me, or do the last couple of episodes feel a lot like OVAs?

[Jh1stgen]

Is that what I think it is? If so, Fukuda has really gone out of ideas!

I was thinking about the exact same thing:amuse

[Son_Pan]

how they are going to fit Kira vs. Rey, Athrun vs. Shinn, possibly Kira going to the Messiah, and the aftermath of the battle all in one episode


that was what I was thinking too, but, they certainly did that once before. I think it was the episode that cagalli took control of orb, and Athrun appeared in justice. i dont remember.

anyway, i think it will end like this,

Kira goes off to stop dullindal, Rey runs after him, Shinn and Athrun battle, and sometime later, Athrun successfully makes shinn realize who is right, and who is wrong. Kira kills Rey, and then he stops Dullindal. easy. simple. and the show is done.

[Akirou]

Originally Posted by shouki
http://flets.gundam-seed-d.net/WEST/story.html

Phase-50, "The Final Power"


To protect the world's last stronghold, Orb, Lacus is fighting without regard for her own life, and Yzak and Deaka head to Eternal to protect her. Kira finds out about his chance meeting with Rey (*1) and how Rey is similar to Rau. Rey is suffering under the curse that he is a manufactured thing, and to him Kira shouts out that "You are yourself" (*2). Athrun crushes Shinn, and together with Neo (*3) sucessfully destory Requiem itself. Deciding that too many have fallen (*4), Talia orders the Minerva down and heads to Messiah herself. Dullandal shows himself from his office (*5), and is seen by Kira, Rey, Athrun and Talia. And then at last, a fateful gunshot sounds...

[Jh1stgen]

If he decides to sucide ... teh plot development would be ruined =|

EDIT:

Funny how SM edit'd out teh OP with some school girl's voice :rofl

In teh preview, it looks lyke Shinn is using Destiny's palm beam on Luna:amazed

And cannot believe Yzak switched sides ... of all the poeple

And it looks like there will be somewhat of scenes that r gona be reused ... totally disappointed bc it is afterall teh last epi, they could've done it to make it fresh =|

[Mindless]

I think that last gunshot means Talia kills him. :amazed

But it's as you guys say. The ending seems a bit rushed. I can fully understand that Athrun will kick Shinn's ass and that Kira will (ultimately) head out to destroy Messiah. But how will they fit two duels, scrapping of DOM's and random mobile suits + a climax in one 20 minute episode? :blink

And now this. Talia going personally to see Gilbert and maybe end it all. Because I doubt a person like Gilbert would kill himself. But maybe it is like Djibril said? That Gilbert really is a coward? :oh

[Kiba-kun]

Kay, the person who posted the massive pictures is a complete prick. ^_^ Thanks for completely spoiling it, asshole. Never, ever post here again.

[Mindless]

Kay, the person who posted the massive pictures is a complete prick. ^_^ Thanks for completely spoiling it, asshole. Never, ever post here again.

I was about to say the same thing, but I didn't.

Next time, keep it under spoiler tags or don't post at all. A picture says more than a thousand words. It's alot harder to come by that exact sentence in my preview of the episode than a large picture in the middle of the screen. :)

[Jh1stgen]

^lol Maybe bc Gill isnt enuff of a man to get Talia pregnant, so he resorts to use teh alteration in teh gene :rofl ... in teh end, pissed off Talia

The reason why im not overly excited as i should be is bc the battle between Kira Vs Rey and Shinn Vs Athrun is very predictable.

In Seed, the last 2 epi were very interesting bc a new antagonist ms was introduced, and the main antagonist char was piloting it.

In GSD, we dont have that ... and with recent epi where pretty much it was all talk. That is why i think it was GSD's downfall. Unfortunately ...

[Muk]

ooo looks like shinn doesn't make the whole i am gona be on the good side come back. Joy Joy. other than that i think it was a nice episode, lets see this ending next week.

[darksage78]

lol just finished watching 49. Looks like its gonna be another rushed ending... O__O Also I told you Mwu couldn't die. Giving him Akatsuki proved that. And Genesis indeed was lame.

[SGLP]

I think that last gunshot means Talia kills him. :amazed


I knew she'd be the one to do it. I still hope they'd die together though. So Rey doesn't die? This ending will be interesting.

49 was alright. The pacing has been horrible lately. It's like they were going to slow in the beginning. Sped up around the middle, and then slowed down all over again to a crawl. Just to make sure it was 50 episodes. Ending should be fantastic though.

[O-ushi]

This is what id like to happen:

http://x2.putfile.com/9/26611082493.jpg:smile-big

[Jh1stgen]

^lol ... didnt expect that one... haha pwned

But definitly a bazooka >> pistol =D

[staradderdragoon]

wow. damn, with this stupid hurrican rita going on, i finally found time to get online. im kinda behind but it seems as if 49 is gonna be a kick ass episode. hmm, i wonder if there will be an ova? i mean, after hearing all these things, i really cant see how they will fit all of that plot in it.

EDIT: i just saw that picture. the bazooka is awesome, but the expression on lacus is even better

[Mindless]

Haha, that picture is just awsome. And I told you, Talia would be the one to do it, but I never expected it to be like that. :P

[Chillin]

If Kira, Rey, Athrun, and Talia are looking as Dullindal appears at his window and then he is shot with a gun I don't think it can be any of them. It has to be Shinn who does it. I'm thinking he just goes totally insane or is just in total distress over being deceived and lied to

[Mindless]

If Kira, Rey, Athrun, and Talia are looking as Dullindal appears at his window and then he is shot with a gun I don't think it can be any of them. It has to be Shinn who does it. I'm thinking he just goes totally insane or is just in total distress over being deceived and lied to

That might be something. Would be a really nice climax if he was to end it. It would bring alot of Shinn's center in the story back to him after beeing stolen from Kira and Athrun. :amuse

[Bleachsuki]

just saw the raw of phase 49. very dissopointing. so many reused scenes. i only saw like few seconds of new scenes but mostly all RE USED? what the hell? i remember in seed there were hardly any re used scenes but in destiny suddenly they just reuse scenes all the time? damn fukada what does he do with the buget money? it seems next episode is yet again re used scens. GSD has fallen down to the worst anime i've seen catagori.

[Jujubie]

[Hiro]_Gundam_SEED_Destiny_Phase_49_[794233DE].avi for HTTP Direct Download on a fast server @ http://208.53.170.42/ - Enjoy and a special thanks to flipside for providing his server for GSD49 this week!

[3rdStrike]

I just finsihed watching 49...

...and hated it.
Simply, WHY DID THEY HAVE TO REUSE THE MWU SCENE?? Did Fukada run out of ideas or something? He could have made Mwu remembered his past in an other way.
A lot could have happened in 49 if they cut down the time of Shinn and his little dilemma and the trashtalk that Dullindal has with Rey and Shinn.

Yet again, what a waste of an episode.

[Jh1stgen]

Ya ... it seems the reason why ppl are having negative view toward GSD is bc the last couple of epis were just all talk epi+reused scenes :|

[Jujubie]

More http direct dls:

http://anime.eveisa.com/gsd49

http://baka.cpuvg.com/random_acts_of_hanpu/

[Umbra]

pardon the stupid question but i dont usually keep up with this thread

is ep 50 the final GSD ep?

[Jh1stgen]

Unfortunately it is ... -_- ;;

So 1 more week to go and it's done

[Jam]

I'm probably the only person who actually liked this episode :oh Although how Mwu's memory coming back to him was pretty cheesy =/

Btw, would anyone else besides me be disappointed if Shinn switched sides? It would be needed drama, but I just think Shinn switching is way too cliché and Athrunesque.

[ssouske]

aside from the several re-used scenes, i think the ep was good compared to the previous 3 episodes... why does mwu always block the positron cannon like he is some fortress?:P well it took a positron cannon to give remove the memory of the hawk of endymion... and it took another one to return his memories...:laugh YAY WE HAVE THE REAL HAWK OF ENDYMION BACK!!! :knk:knk:knk
EDIT: oh i forgot... WE ALSO GOT MORE OF YZAK AND DEARKA IN THIS EP!!! YAY!:laugh i love it when i see yzak screaming like that...:laugh

[DeathGuise_of_Oblivion]

I'd have to say, if Shinn does kill Gilbert, it'll be a very cool and suspensful ending. But a question of mine still exhists: What will Shinn do after? Will he go back to ORB with Lunamaria? Will he go into politics and "save" ORB a different way.

All in all, I like how Fukada decided to keep Shin's attachment to ORB. As Rey said "You'll save that country." but was he refering to ORB or the PLANTS has yet to be specified. Also, he seemed to be very adiment of taking down ORB by himself. That kinda reminds me of Cagalli's dad(forgot the name:S) and how HE blew ORB up. Plus the face he had on was kinda scary.

Well, the new question is: What will Shinn do after the series??? Discuss.

[Jh1stgen]

That would be a wierd turn of event if Shinn kills Gill ...

And yes ... i would as well be disappointed to see Shinn switch side.

I mean ... why now? Why would Shinn switch side when Athrun has been trying to convince him for so long. I would find that a bit unrealistic ...

And again, the idea of antagonistvsprotagonist should be somewhat even. If Shinn switch sides ... we wil all know who will win. Cmon ... use some suspense, or have Fuk lost his ideas =/

And i was REALLY disappointed when Yzak switched sides, of all the poeple :|

[O-ushi]

Im not sure what to think of Rey exactly after this ep. Rey knows all about Kira and the Ultimate Co-Ordinator Project, Dr Hibiki, he knows about his "other" Rau, and what happened to him. He understands that Rau went insane and everything else. It seems that Rey does want the change the world for the better, and that the Destiny Plan would do it.
It almost seems that Rey has been throughly manipulated by Gil as well. He's been with Gil since he was a kid so he must have been influenced by Gil way more than Shinn has been.

[Jh1stgen]

So if Rey+Shinn happens to switch sides ... that would be so gay :|

But i dont see that happening ...

In the preview of 50 ... u see Destiny's palm beam attacking either SF or Impluse ...

[Jujubie]

I think it's impulse. Prolly wrong though. Shinn no baka! anyways, why would it be weird for yzak to fight with the Athrun and co? They have the same ideals it's just that they're formally in ZAFT. I think Yzak was always with Clyne Faction but just couldnt admit it. Yzak and Dearka feel the same way Athrun does, at least to the extent to oppose Dully.

YAY MY 200th Post!

[Hansel]

Oh man, I loved that when Yzak and Dearka came and helped Kira and Athrun. Dearka is the fucking pimp of GSD.

And in reference to the Mwu thing, I wasn't disappointed at all. I was more worried that he was going to really die this time... I couldn't have handled that. If he dies somehow next episode I'm going to kill myself.

[Jam]

I hated it when Dearka and Yzak switched sides. I wasn't surprised by it at all, but people just need to stop switching. Especially considering it is now so close to the end. But, geez, people seem to be betraying ZAFT all over the place. There was Athrun, although I'll let that slide because it was a given. Then Meyrin, and a bunch of others who joined up with Lacus :S

Plus, being the ZAFT fangirl I am, Dearka and Yzak are too cool for any other organization :amuse

If Shinn switches it'll just be lame no matter what the circumstances. I think it would just seem forced if he did. No matter what Athrun or Kira say, as long as Rey is around it won't happen. Rey really got to Shinn with his story about being a clone. Shinn seems to have adopted Rey's goal as his own and it certainly doesn’t seem like he is about to let Rey down.

[Jh1stgen]

^ 100% agree with everything wut uve said ...

That's the thing i really find GSD too predictable ... chars switches side very easily, especially near the ending

[Chillin]

That was Impulse that Shinn was lunging at with Destiny's palm cannon. The back of Strike Freedom's head does not look like that, furthermore you can see a little blue in the chest area.

[Jh1stgen]

Then i guess Luna must've decide to switch side and attack Shinn to stop .. in the end, pissed off Shinn and view as Luna as a traitor.

[Chillin]

I'm guessing she started defending the Eternal, and then Shinn just...I don't know...snapped?

[Jh1stgen]

heh ... u mentioning about the snap part is so like Shinn lol :rofl XP

[ssouske]

i do not know why you guys are making a big fuss about people switching sides? i mean this already happened a lot in GS... dearka and yzak did not actually switch sides... they're in both organizations(ZAFT and Clyne faction) but they happen to be more active in ZAFT because of... uhm... *cough*gil's propaganda bull crap*cough* switching sides has been a feature of gundam... for example: Char(zeon, AEUG, then neo zeon), zechz of GW he switched sides several times bad, good, bad, then good in EW in one show, im sure there are more switchers in UC but i do not know all of them... in SEED we had almost everybody switching sides and joining different organizations towards the end of the series... examples? dearka was one, athrun was one, the whole Archangel crew switched from EAF to Orb, then we have andy, dacosta, and the crew of eternal, and the most noticeable in the end was yzak... now for rey and shinn to switch sides mean that fukuda wants to emphasize that gil's destiny plan is eventually regarded by all as EVIL and that rey and shinn are not naturally evil + fukuda wants them to live... if rey and shinn do not switch sides, then it would be better to consider them as dead men as early as today...
ok nuff bout switching sides...
shinn always snaps... i think he resembles what kira could have been if he did not meet andy in the desert, and lacus after his fight against athrun in SEED... he would just be killing people left and right without thinking why or what he is fighting for... he might become more like those GS extendeds/druggies that killed everything that was agaist them...

[Chillin]

I pretty much agree with you there ssouske. Now with the Genesis firing and everything else it's obvious Dullindal isn't what he says he is, even if he believes it himself he's just being dillusional.

[ArioNeko]

I love the whole reals ongstress fleet thing. I wanna see them knock one too Durandal. Surly the nations of earth won't stand for a society dominated by cordinators or with that Genisis floating above them on the dark side of the moon.


Shin is a fool for listening to that half baked clone instead of his own feelings.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by ssouske
now for rey and shinn to switch sides mean that fukuda wants to emphasize that gil's destiny plan is eventually regarded by all as EVIL
Well it certainly is not true for me, besides Lacus is completely against Destiny Plan in the same way Dullindal is against anybody who opposes Destiny Plan, so I cannot say any of them is more open-minded than the other.

Originally Posted by ssouske
he would just be killing people left and right without thinking why or what he is fighting for...
Which is what a good soldier should be doing...

Originally Posted by Chillin
Now with the Genesis firing and everything else it's obvious Dullindal isn't what he says he is, even if he believes it himself he's just being dillusional.
Regardless, he is still a great politician, whose intelligence and cunning is remarkable.

Originally Posted by ArioNeko
Shin is a fool for listening to that half baked clone instead of his own feelings.
It is more foolish to rely on your own feelings in making choices since your feelings does not think and if I remember correctly were people bashing Shinn because he allows his feelings to control his mind. Besides I just do not see what is wrong with joining with Dullindal. If he believes that what Dullindal is fighting for is correct then he should not care what others would think about his choice, if he will then he will be as miserable as Athrun was.

[ArioNeko]

You look into his eyes and the way he pauses and contemplates. He is having his second guesses especially with that luna thing. He has become to question this path he has taken. I feel he should follow his heart and to hell with orders. He already violated his own dieals in helping to destroy the country he once loved and doing the exact same thing he swore he never wanted to happen again.

The inner character turmoil is kinda cool.

[Danny Lilithborne]

Gilbert's a bit of a noble tyrant, if you can imagine such a thing. I just watched 48 (not 49 yet) and it's become clear that he is an "ends-justify-the-means" kind of guy. He's reminding me more and more of Julius Caesar, who also saw his own ambitions as the means to save his people. In JC's case, that would be the Romans, but Gilbert's is mankind, which makes him a lot harder to find reasons to fight against. He also reminds me of Jasmine from "Angel". Not a sympathetic anti-hero-ish villain in any way, but pure and simple, evil that believes it's good - the worst kind.

[Son_Pan]

couple of misc. scans. if they were posted before, my bad:

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9089/lacusmeer3ny.jpg
^suit 8.

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/71/91131jo.jpg

http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/4263/final8ch.jpg
^i hope Phione translates these soon...

[ssouske]

Well it certainly is not true for me, besides Lacus is completely against Destiny Plan in the same way Dullindal is against anybody who opposes Destiny Plan, so I cannot say any of them is more open-minded than the other.
in a way i agree... but switching sides also shows that the person switching sides is open minded... obviously he needs to think over the information he/she gets from each side... after going over several standardsin our society, like morality, etc, one can make a decision on which of the 2 is to be considered bad... obviously, firing a genesis cannon against people who want to obliterate a weapon of mass destruction is bad... and its also bad for a country to attack another country on basis of accusations that the other has weapons of mass destruction:P

Which is what a good soldier should be doing...
i agree... but remember... kira was not supposed to be a soldier in the first place... he is the ultimate coordinator, but his lifestyle before Heliopolis says that he is a civilian... and a wild rampaging civilian is something we would not want to see... right?

[Mindless]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Strike Freedom dies! Oh my god, I can't watch it. So much gore! :sad

[zeheero1982]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Strike Freedom dies! Oh my god, I can't watch it. So much gore! :sad


It won't die. I bet it that it will be damage alot, but it won't die. Have faith in Kira's ploting skills.:wink

[Jujubie]

ZOMG, S-F shouldnt take any damage at all. If it is so heavily armed and powerful and Shinn is just berserker, shouldn't kira just fly by fine. GAH. Why dont Kira accept his UC powers for ebil. If Kira was the ultimate coordinator, in all sense of the word he should be perfect. But no, there has to be other lovable and hatable charactesr to enter the scnene.

[O-ushi]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Strike Freedom dies! Oh my god, I can't watch it. So much gore! :sad

Dont worry! Those are just artist impressions! They never turn out the same way in the episodes! It would be awsome if it did though!

By the way does anyone else have any of the other spoiler scans?
I have Freedom/AA Vs Orb, Freedom/Impulse Vs Destroy, Freedom Vs Impulse, 4 new Gundams, Space Final, and the recent Destiny Vs Strike Freedom.

[Hansel]

If it did turn out that way, I think that Kira would just fire SF's Chest Cannon through Destiny's head. Nothing to worry about.

[Chillin]

According to spoilers of the final episode they don't even fight, and if they do it's nothing of importance.

[ssouske]

why does that destiny vs S-F pic make me want to put in a speech ballon for shinn shouting "GOD FINGER!!! (BURNING FINGER!!! for the american fans) LOL!:P maybe that pic is really just for the fans... im sure that some of us are itching to see shinn vs kira 2... but it is a bit impossible since shinn will be busy with athrun and kira with rey...

btw: shinn is really stupid... why would he "God finger" his girl?:laugh(kinda sounded bad:P)

[Chillin]

Shinn looks like he pretty much attacks everyone in the final episode. In one shot we see him clash with Athrun, another he's shooting his rifle at Kira, and now he's putting a palm cannon to Lunamaria.

[NamaeX]

Question for those on episode 46...

Where the hell was Meer shot?

[Mindless]

Question for those on episode 46...

Where the hell was Meer shot?

Haha, good question. I believe she was shot somewhere near her heart/left lung. :S

[NamaeX]

Haha, good question. I believe she was shot somewhere near her heart/left lung. :S

She spun and fell down before she "died", and I don't see the bullet wound anywhere on her body when that happens.

[Jh1stgen]

Censorship? >.>

[Hansel]

From what I can tell she wasn't shot at all. I think she was trying to pose after saving Lacus and then her heart exploded for unneccessary reasons.

[ssouske]

From what I can tell she wasn't shot at all. I think she was trying to pose after saving Lacus and then her heart exploded for unneccessary reasons.
lol!:P then where did all that blood in Lacus' hands came from?:blink

[staradderdragoon]

they appeared out of nowhere. or lacus summoned it. lol. nah j/k. one note about destiny palming impulse. i was looking at the designs of s-f, and that one clip of the back of the head looks remarkably like s-f's head. so im not sure if that is truly impulse. just my speculation.

[!-justicer-!]

lol!:P then where did all that blood in Lacus' hands came from?:blink

She was on 'those' days

Oh, and by the way... I was gone for something like 8 weeks due to computer problems. I know, nobody missed me, but I said it anyway.

=D

Don't worry, I already got all the chapter I lost, and read all the posts since my departure.

I missed you guys :blink wierd uh? :smile-big

[3rdStrike]

^HAHA

That was funny.

[Hansel]

lol!:P then where did all that blood in Lacus' hands came from?:blink

well unfortunately due to budgeting they didn't ahve time to show the scene of Lacus strangling babies and eating bunnies. they just cut ahead to her holding onto meer. really it was just a case of poor finance managing and directing.

[ssouske]

they appeared out of nowhere. or lacus summoned it. lol. nah j/k. one note about destiny palming impulse. i was looking at the designs of s-f, and that one clip of the back of the head looks remarkably like s-f's head. so im not sure if that is truly impulse. just my speculation. well all of the heads of impulse, freedom, and strike freedom had white and gold fins on the head... the thing that says it is impulse is the hint of blue shown as a part of the upper torso... freedom and S-F had black torsos and force impulse has that blue torso... so there...

about your replies on my earlier post, lol you guys are very uhm... creative and imaginative... hehehe!:laugh

EDIT: I took a second look at that S-F vs Destiny pic... and i think kira has the upper hand... take a closer look at the multi-phase cannon in the torso... its pretty much whole and undamaged... and shinn is charging towards S-F right? hehehe! lets see palm cannon vs multi-phase cannon, whoever wins gets to slap gil's behind with a whip... hehehe!:laugh

[wingsover]

Oh wow, a GSD thread. I can't believe I missed it all this time. (GENIUS THAT I AM. :P) And of course I WOULD find it right before the last ep....

So does anyone else think the series ending will be rushed? Seriously, it's like they're setting up for a second season.

Issues that simply cannot be wrapped up in one episode:


1) Luna and Meyrin, on opposite ships

2) Shinn. Unless he dies. (Sob) Or...or he becomes the villain ace of the next series. OOOOH! :blinks:

3) The fact that most of the world was totally ready to fall in with Dullindal. Even if they kill him, that fact still remains.

4) fall-out from the usage of weapons of mass destruction. Over and over and over again.

5) LOGOS being gone, there will be a significant vacuum of power on Earth.

6) Kira is god, so I don't see him needing closure on much, but Athrun and Cagalli do.

7) Mwu/Neo. What the hell, he remembers the brainwashed hell he went through, the three children he manipulated, and he's all hunky-dory? I DON'T THINK SO.

[ssouske]

^
wow you never thought a gsd thread might exist in here huh... hehehe! anyway... for answers for all of your questions, try re-reading the previous posts from about well... every page since GSD thread ver.1.0:P and yes most of us (its not good to generalize so im trying to play safe here but generally almost all of think this way...) feel that the ending is rushed... i guess they will have a massive OAV to cap off GSD just like GS... im just wondering if they will push through with the plans for a third CE series... which will definitely make CE a trillogy...

on a sidenote: when i woke up early this morning, first thing i thought of is the preview for the next GSD ep in the MBS site... then i remembered that today is the day for the last ep...:P

[staradderdragoon]

holy cow. you know how long it wuld take to read all of those posts souske? how massive of an OVA do you think will be made?

[zeheero1982]

I don't understand why they have to end everything at episode 50. If you ask me, I think they are rushing everything. Thats why I hate the new gundam series. They try to wrap everything so fast in the end, it doesn't leave any closure. Oh well.

[Chillin]

Yeah I'm pretty much expecting an abrupt ending, that is, the show ends right after the fighting ends. Regardless I'm still pretty excited. I can't wait to dl the raw and watch it tomorrow morning.

ES Toys lists info for the 13th and last volume of SEED DESTINY. It's scheduled to come with an approximately 40 minute "special episode". Also included is "SEED DESTINY The Making", a collection of videos shown at the Tokyo International Forum during the October 3rd 2004 festival premiere event, which included comments from the director, composer, and cast. The release date is February 24.

What's up with this "special episode" business? New material? Recap?

[zeheero1982]

See, what has happen to the good O days when Gundam use to a have meanful plot, like Gundam 0079. Sure the show wasn't as action pack as today's gundam series, but it did have alot of story and meaning behind it. I think it the idea of marketing that kills the series.

[Chillin]

I think Destiny's plot actually had meaning and a lot of potential, but it wasn't played on as well as it could have been, nor was it expanded. SEED played well off of being more of a character driven/oriented show. Destiny seemed to be going for more of a bigger plot with less focus on the drama and the effects of war on the central characters. Rather I believe it tried to show the effects of war on the masses. It could have worked out, and while they seemed to be laying foundation down in the beginning and in the middle (which were certainly great episodes) the execution at the end just wasn't there (mainly on the scenes dealing with the newer characters). I don't understand this as there is plenty they could have elaborated and expanded on. What we got instead was a lot of meaningless flashback and some meaningless development. As things are Meer is a much more developed and deeper character than Shinn. But I don't really care, and I enjoy Destiny faults and all. I'm certainly not one to just complain about how things could have gone or could have been, but I do realize this series has it's fair share of problems. Let's try to enjoy the last episode though guys and girls, and hope for the best (or a sequel of some kind :laugh )

[zeheero1982]

I wish they back Armuro too show them all what GUNDAM PLOTING IS ALL ABOUT!!!!!!. Anyways, I did enjoy seeds alot. However, Chillin I thought maybe have only 20 mins to wrap up everything is JUST TOO FAST!!!!!! Oh well, I think the most interesting I found in Seeds whats Muw's new mobile suit. It remind me alot of Armuro's Gundam NU.:laugh

[SGLP]

The seemingly endless amount of recaps and clip shows have really left no room for a clean ending. It makes you wonder why they bothered when it should have been clear that they wouldn't be able to properly wrap things up. Unless this is really just their plan. I guess we will get a cliff hanger ending if they really decide to continue this.

[ssouske]

i agree with what chillin said... GSD's plot had so much potential... especially in the begining when we see dulindal was talking with cagalli... i had this gut feeling that he(gil... not cagalli:P) could have been a better antagonist compared to what he is right now... but it was just not executed properly... i do not know why these idiots who made the anime made so many recaps and senseless episodes... i just hope they fix the series with the manga version... though i may not be able to read it, i just hope they can properly develop the manga version of GSD... (and i do not mean the astray manga i mean the real gsd manga)...

another sidenote: what the hell happened to the girls? i have not seen any posts from them recently... S_P, Chops, and akirou are all missing in action these past few weeks...:blink

[Zellianne Zettle]

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3299/11281555623888ty.jpg

[NamaeX]

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3299/11281555623888ty.jpg

*disemboweled scream*

[ssouske]

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3299/11281555623888ty.jpg wow... any person will be scared of that... a seed mode kira using his new type powers... just wow... kira is now officially a GOD... his 2 mobilesuits(Freedom and S-F) are OMNISUITS (taking the term from xenogears Omni gears:P)... now the pilot is also god like...
BTW: does anyone remember the episode number where kira comes back with S-F and Justice then kicks shinn's ass... i need the raw... because i'll be re-doing some gifs on that ep... kinda forgot the phase number though...