Batman (Prep-time) vs Hulk (any form)

[CrazyMoronX]

Ok, we got Hulk, any version you want, Maestro, Mindless, War etc...

However, on the other hand, we got Batman, with his ever so glorious prep-time.

Who wins, and how do they win. No posts simply saying "Batman because preptime PWNZZZZZZZZZZZZORSZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZMGS ! YOUR S0U|_!!" or anything of the like.

[Takuza]

Maestro Hulk is as smart as batman...so he wins.

[Gooba]

MaestroThat just isn't fair. Maestro killed Marvel, as in every hero in the entire universe. He has the Infinity Gauntlet, Thor's Hammer, that kickass cube (forget the name), SS's surfboard, and is as smart as Bats. Maestro vs all of non-Cosmic DC would be a more fair fight, and even then I would side with him (SS>all non-Cosmics from DC, and he lost). I'll find the pic of the trophy room Maesto had.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7981/trophyroom5vp.jpg
I want to thank Tsukiyomi for it, he is the man when it comes the the Hulk.

[Tsukiyomi]

Against the Maestro or the Devil Hulk I have to side with Hulk, he would not only be stronger/faster/more durable than bats, but he'll be far smarter because those incarnations have the mind of Bruce Banner, thats not even counting the healing factor.

As for the other incarnations, I'm curious what Batman might be able to do.

[Insipidipity]

The only thing that stands a chance against Maestro is a whack on the head with a vase by Aunt May.

[¤Naruto-Kun¤]

That just isn't fair. Maestro killed Marvel, as in every hero in the entire universe. He has the Infinity Gauntlet, Thor's Hammer, that kickass cube (forget the name), SS's surfboard, and is as smart as Bats. Maestro vs all of non-Cosmic DC would be a more fair fight, and even then I would side with him (SS>all non-Cosmics from DC, and he lost). I'll find the pic of the trophy room Maesto had.

EXCELLENT POINT!, therefore batman doesnt stand a cHANCe

[Tsukiyomi]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/SupremeJackalGod/Trophy_room.jpg

The only thing that stands a chance against Maestro is a whack on the head with a vase by Aunt May.

Would you mind hosting it on your own photobucket account instead of linking to mine? It would save some bandwidth because I post a lot of scans like that.

Done and done -Gooba

For anyone viewing that picture, keep in mind they only showed us that one room, it goes on after that.

[Insipidipity]

He has Wolverine's skeleton, Xavier's chair, Magneto's helmet. He's beaten all the people that it took to fight onslaught. He rules the friggin planet. In the end, sadly, only Aunt May can stop him...

[CrazyMoronX]

Maybe I wasn't clear...... Batman has preptime.

Ok, round two!

[Tsukiyomi]

Maybe I wasn't clear...... Batman has preptime.

Ok, round two!

Did you miss my post?

Maestro and Devil Hulk possess greater strength than Bats could ever hope to match, they are durable enough to survive nuclear explosions, they can easily run atleast several hundred miles an hour and comprehend speeds great enough to allow them to pull the silver surfer off his board.

Thats not even mentioning the fact that they can heal instantly from almost anything and they each possess a mind more brilliant than Batman can fathom.

Face it, he's fucked.

[Insipidipity]

Not to mention he's immune from Psychic attacks(hence beating Xavier) and more powerful than the godlike Thanos(hence the Infinity Gauntlet). Batman got crushed by Baine...

[Gooba]

Thanos killed half of the universe with a wave of his hand, and Maestro beat him, and took the item that gave him that power, and another one just like it.

People seem to think Doom with prep>Batman with prep, and he still got pwned to an extreme degree.

Maestro is basicly a cosmic.

[Tsukiyomi]

The Hulks immune system also grants him an immunity to all known poisons and diseases.

[CrazyMoronX]

I can think up two ways prep-time Batman beats Maestro already:

Creates a time machine, sends Maestro back to the Gamma-bomb thing that killed him the first time.

OR Batman invents a Gamma Warhead, and blows Maestro to hell.

Since the Gamma bomb is proven to kill Maestro, I fail to see how either of these will not work with various plot-device Batman workings.

[Tsukiyomi]

I can think up two ways prep-time Batman beats Maestro already:

Creates a time machine, sends Maestro back to the Gamma-bomb thing that killed him the first time.

OR Batman invents a Gamma Warhead, and blows Maestro to hell.

Since the Gamma bomb is proven to kill Maestro, I fail to see how either of these will not work with various plot-device Batman workings.

Sorry to break this to you, but the gamma bomb did NOT kill Maestro, he survived and came back later on.

Now, let me ask you. What makes you think Maestro with all his resources and knowledge couldn't stop batman?

[Sabaku no Ira]

That just isn't fair. Maestro killed Marvel, as in every hero in the entire universe. He has the Infinity Gauntlet, Thor's Hammer, that kickass cube (forget the name), SS's surfboard, and is as smart as Bats. Maestro vs all of non-Cosmic DC would be a more fair fight, and even then I would side with him (SS>all non-Cosmics from DC, and he lost). I'll find the pic of the trophy room Maesto had.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7981/trophyroom5vp.jpg
I want to thank Tsukiyomi for it, he is the man when it comes the the Hulk.

Wow. What the heck happened? Care to explain (and spoil :P) to me, please, Gooba?

[Delta Shell]

Thanos killed half of the universe with a wave of his hand, and Maestro beat him, and took the item that gave him that power, and another one just like it.

Wait, wait, wait..the Maestro killed someone who was in possession (and using the power of) the Infinity Gauntlet?
Or rather did he just acquire the Infinity Gauntlet by other means (seperately from the incident with Thanos)?

[Insipidipity]

It was a trophy, all the other trophies seem to be taken as a sign of victory, hence we must take it that he took it after he defeated someone who used it.

[Gooba]

Tsukiyomi is the guy to ask about it, I will see what info I can dig up out of all his old posts and put it in this one.

absorbing the radiation from World War III made the Hulk into the Maestro

The Maestro is basically the Hulk with Bruce Banners mind (the most brilliant human mind in marvel) and decades of powering up (several nuclear wars ravaged the world, his body is constantly absorbing the radiation to become stronger). His strength and healing factor is atleast twice that of the normal savage green Hulk. The Radiation has also made him insane so he is very quick and easy to anger.

The main reason he is the most dangerous is because of the resources at his disposal. He not only has Banner's dangerously brilliant mind, but he has things like the infinity gauntlet and the cosmic cube.

The Maestro killed ever Marvel hero and has a trophy room with souveneirs he took of their corpses. I have a scan of his trophy room if you want to see it.

[korican04]

too bad maestro was beaten and killed by the present day hulk who was brought to the future by dr. doom's time machine. Maestro can be killed he might have been more powerful but he was vulnerable to death for some reaon :S unlike some other hulks. I didn't really understand the whole story it was a while back, i think i was 12 when that story came out.

Anyways against maestro batman will have a hard time cause he could counter intellectually batman's plan, for the other ones he could probably do something for it to consider it a win.

[Insipidipity]

He was only vulnerable because it was a backlash of exactly what created him combined with an overload in power since he gained MORE power through gamma radiation. I think the combination of it being the original blast that created him with this overload that allowed him to somewhat die. An overload alone would just superpowered him so it was the original blast kinda was his undoing.

[korican04]

He was only vulnerable because it was a backlash of exactly what created him combined with an overload in power since he gained MORE power through gamma radiation. I think the combination of it being the original blast that created him with this overload that allowed him to somewhat die. An overload alone would just superpowered him so it was the original blast kinda was his undoing.
ah yes i remember now. that whole saga was iffi for me. :P

[Tsukiyomi]

too bad maestro was beaten and killed by the present day hulk who was brought to the future by dr. doom's time machine. Maestro can be killed he might have been more powerful but he was vulnerable to death for some reaon :S unlike some other hulks. I didn't really understand the whole story it was a while back, i think i was 12 when that story came out.

Anyways against maestro batman will have a hard time cause he could counter intellectually batman's plan, for the other ones he could probably do something for it to consider it a win.

I'll say it again, the Maestro didn't die from the Gamma Bomb. He did come back, and he will eventually come back again.

The Hulk won by luck, the Maestro was about to start beating him around like a rag doll again, I have some frames of them fighting and at no point does the present day Hulk get the upper hand, even for an instant. He was lucky enough to lure Maestro into Doom's time machine.

Maestro is an unreal machine of destruction with a mind more brilliant than any on earth.

[korican04]

I'll say it again, the Maestro didn't die from the Gamma Bomb. He did come back, and he will eventually come back again.

The Hulk won by luck, the Maestro was about to start beating him around like a rag doll again, I have some frames of them fighting and at no point does the present day Hulk get the upper hand, even for an instant. He was lucky enough to lure Maestro into Doom's time machine.

Maestro is an unreal machine of destruction with a mind more brilliant than any on earth.
I'll say it again, i was 12 and don't remember shit :laugh
All i remember is that he was beaten, and doesn't matter if he gets lucky, he lost. But yeah he was tossing him around like a rag doll.

edit: ok i remember now, it was that heroes reborn thing that he came back in right?

[Gooba]

All i remember is that he was beaten, and doesn't matter if he gets lucky, he lost.True, but he lost to the Hulk combined with a ton of intelligent people's help. Batman lost to Bane, a dumber, weaker, non-regenerating, non-cosmic item wielding Hulk.

[Inuyashamish]

Maestro Hulk is as smart as batman...so he wins.

i agree with anime606, batman cant win

[korican04]

True, but he lost to the Hulk combined with a ton of intelligent people's help. Batman lost to Bane, a dumber, weaker, non-regenerating, non-cosmic item wielding Hulk.
that is correct, batman in "batman" isn't the same "JlA" batman that we associate "with prep time" batman with. :S
cause the writers are sooooo different in both. That's the bad thing about these is that batman has too many writers.

[Gooba]

that is correct, batman in "batman" isn't the same "JlA" batman that we associate "with prep time" batman with.True, but even so, Maestro=JLA Batman with near cosmic superpowers and resources.

[korican04]

True, but even so, Maestro=JLA Batman with near cosmic superpowers and resources.
too true, poor bats.

[The Transporter]

You know, I just wanted to point this out...but, in that pic, Prof. Xaivier was still ALIVE....That's just creepy...

I was wondering, does Bats have a time machine? Curious, because if he can throw him to the beginning of time, I believe the big bang could kill him lol....Or if they fought each other in DC's continuim, Maestro isn't supposed to see it, so if he does, he kinda has to be wiped out from history....

Other then that, Bats is proper screwed lol....

-Simon

[Delta Shell]

It was a trophy, all the other trophies seem to be taken as a sign of victory, hence we must take it that he took it after he defeated someone who used it.

Used it perhaps..but using it at the time I doubt (and if it isn't written anywhere logic would dictate the former).

Given that the Maestro's resources were ridiculous as was his intellect he could simply have searched the universe for the soul gems. Thanos didn't acquire the gauntlet by beating it's possesor, given that...well it's as close to impossible as is even comprehendable (even Eternity can't do that). He just got the soul gems together (if I remember correctly).

Anyway that's slightly off topic.

[hjkou]

Did you miss my post?

Maestro and Devil Hulk possess greater strength than Bats could ever hope to match, they are durable enough to survive nuclear explosions, they can easily run atleast several hundred miles an hour and comprehend speeds great enough to allow them to pull the silver surfer off his board.

Thats not even mentioning the fact that they can heal instantly from almost anything and they each possess a mind more brilliant than Batman can fathom.

Face it, he's fucked.

He didn't miss your post. He was obviously referring to the "Kill-Any-Form-Of-Hulk button" on his utility belt. der?

Doesn't anyone get it yet? You can't beat Bruce Wayne, no matter what.

[Tsukiyomi]

You know, I just wanted to point this out...but, in that pic, Prof. Xaivier was still ALIVE....That's just creepy...


Thats not Xavier, thats Rick Jones whom the Maestro has kept alive because Rick Jones was the Hulks best friend.

I would like to see Bruce Wayne try to take down the Mindless Hulk. Onslaught couldn't physically do it and he was a cosmic being.

[lucky]

what was rick's condition like? was he trapped by him or something?

[Tsukiyomi]

what was rick's condition like? was he trapped by him or something?

Actually rick was one of the few people who could get close to the Maestro often without pissing him off. He was the head of the resistance movement that brought the past Hulk to the future to battle the Maestro, eventually though the Maestro did kill Rick Jones, I have scans of that if you want to see it.

But think about how old Rick is at this point in time, he's too old to ever leave that chair.

[Gooba]

Doesn't anyone get it yet? You can't beat Bruce Wayne, no matter what.Don't you get it, Maestro=Batman with powers. This is a Batman vs Batman fight, except one of them was made a cosmic first.

Tsu, I would love to see any scans you got. <3 Hulk scans.

[lucky]

Maestro, eventually though the Maestro did kill Rick Jones, I have scans of that if you want to see it.


...YES! :P

[Tsukiyomi]

...YES! :P

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=1509200&postcount=30

I posted it in the Hulk thread. Let me know what you think.

Once again I'll say I would love to see bats take on the Mindless Hulk, or the Devil/Guilt Hulks. I think any of these would own him.

[HollowDreamer]

i say batman with prep time would win.

[Cthulhu-versailles]

So beggineth the ressurection of of days once passed...

[CrazyMoronX]

Why bring up this thread?

Not only is it linked to the "trophy room", that was debunked after people actually read that comic. But there is no real argument to be found.

Obviously, Batman would pwn any versions of the Hulk.

[blacklusterseph004]

People seem to be underestimating the value of prep-time...

[Dr.Douchebag]

any scans of maestro beating thanos? pls? smile-big

[Spunoff]

the hulk is so broken..

[Comic Book Guy]

Batman lost to Bane, a dumber, weaker, non-regenerating, non-cosmic item wielding Hulk.\

Bane's quite intelligent when he was introduced. He deduced Batman's identity through his body language, and comparing it with Bruce Wayne.

Batman lost to Bane due to over-exhaustion. Remember, Bane orchestrated the Arkham Asylum jailbreak. Bruce had very little sleep throughout the following days catching his rogues. Upon a lengthy confrontation with Killer Croc, Bane simply picked up the pieces and broke Bruce.

[Bro Tai Jr.]

I don't know Batman's Shark Repellant is PRETTY strong.