Kakuzu and Itachi vs. Sasori and Jiraya

[The Chief]

Itachi is still sick but not blind.

Battlefield: open field
No knowledge on either side.
Jiraya starts in base.
Sasori starts in hiruko.

BRAWL!

[TasteTheDifference]

Team Itachi would win, simply because of the presence of Kakuzu on their team. Kakuzu is the bane of Sasori, due to his Jutsu, Doton Domu. This ability renders the totality of his attacks, completely useless, from the poisoned senbon, to Satetsu Shigure. Most of his moves just aren't potent enough to get through, what's worse is that the only one that might, the blocks, can be knocked aside by Kakazu's doton boosted strength. This is then added to his highly effective long ranged elementals, which Sasori has no answer to.

Jiraiya is unlikely to kill Kakuzu and Itachi before the Uchiha has cast Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi, as Kakuzu is again in the way. Even Gamayu Endan, would probably be stopped by the fuuton + katon combo. For team Jiraiya to win he would need to get into Senin Modo, but Kakuzu's dominance of Sasori gives Itachi plenty of charging time.

[The Chief]

^ good post. I agree.

[Dman]

tough one.itachi>jiraiya and sasori>kakuzu.in the end i see itachi and sasori winning:nod

[Maximus]

tough one.itachi>jiraiya and sasori>kakuzu.in the end i see itachi and sasori winning:nod

Itachi and Sasori aren't in same team.

[The Chief]

MAXIMUS ULTIMUS!

[Munboy Dracule O'Brian]

Tough one.

Perhaps you can provide a distance.

[Cyphon]

I would say Jiraiya and Sasori take this. Sasori can spam his poison weapons early on to keep Itachi and Kakuzu on the defensive. Kakuzu should be fine from getting pierced due to Iron Skin, but Itachi just not have a defense like that without immediately calling forth Susanoo, which I doubt he would do. Either way the neutralizer here will be Jiraiya bringing out a Summon. Summons are hard to deal with for most opponents and it would take quite the big attacks from either Itachi or Kakuzu to take one out.

If they focus too long on taking out the summon then they will have Sasori to deal with and if they focus on Sasori they will have HM Jiraiya to deal with.

It is a good fight, but in the end I think Sasori and Jiraiya would win.

[durtycheese]

i think itachi and kakuzu would win, but woudl have a hard time with sasori and his poisons. if all fails amaretsu or susanoo would annihalate the otehr team.

[Nikushimi]

Itachi and Kakuzu win. Itachi and Sasori are the major players here, while Jiraiya and Kakuzu are the weaker members of their respective teams by a significant margin. The deciding factor, however, is how they measure up against their enemies; if Kakuzu goes after Sasori, he will prove to be a bad match-up for Sasori, and the fight will be dragged out. However, Jiraiya will be dispatched in seconds by Itachi, who will then help Kakuzu to finish off Sasori with frightening ease. If Kakuzu goes after Jiraiya, the fight will last a long time, Jiraiya will need Sennin Moodo, and the battle will eventually end with Jiraiya the winner. While this is happening, Itachi will fight Sasori and probably use Amaterasu. Sasori will escape by ejecting his heart container and attacking Itachi, but Sharingan can see chakra, and with Itachi's speed, the heart transfer won't go unnoticed. Itachi will focus on the heart area and Amaterasu it, making sure to have the flames follow if it ejects again. Sasori isn't fast enough to escape it now that Itachi knows his trick, so it's bye-bye. Now we have a weary Itachi versus Jiraiya, who is in considerably better shape. Itachi will probably be backed up into a corner and forced to draw out Susano'o. Jiraiya is taken out with one slash. Itachi wins with moderate difficulty.

[The Hand of God]

Itachi is still sick but not blind.

Battlefield: open field
No knowledge on either side.
Jiraya starts in base.
Sasori starts in hiruko.

BRAWL!

Itachi and Kakuzu wins. Itachi has pwned a Sannin without breaking a sweat, and Jiraiya is no different from Oro. Kakuzu and Sasori could go either way, but if Sasori survive he won't stand a chance against Itachi

[Grimmjowsensei]

Tbh, This fight ends real fast in favor of team Itachi.

IC, Itachi kills Jiraiya with tsukiyomi and Kakuzu blocks Sasori's initial needle attack with an elemental blast. With jiraiya taken out of the equation, it ends literally in seconds.

[Complete_Ownage]

Itachi and Kakazu take this with relative ease.

Only way this would be a heated fight if Jaraiya starts in HM or Sasori pulls some major pnj and buys enough time for HM

[mrwaters013]

Gotta go with Jiraiya & Sasori, Jiraiya will probably go for Kakuzu and Sasori for Itachi because of Sasori's supposed resistance to genjutsu. Although I believe Jiraiya is superior to Kakuzu, Kakuzu's iron skin doesnt seem like something that'll be easily (hell maybe even not period) blown away seeing as how Jiraiya has no raiton jutsu, but if Jiraiya can avoid kakuzu's elemental spams and tentacles long enough to pull off his hermit mode transformation and frog song i can see him finding a way to take out kakuzu. As for Sasori and Itachi, this looks like Sasori having the advantage because genjutsu (supposedly) not effecting him and Ameratsu could be absorbed/blocked by his puppet army and/or iron sand while still having his large arsenal of puppet techniques to take out Itachi with, although Susanoo would take out Sasori (if it pierced his heart) and probably leave Itachi incapacitated, then Jiraiya could clean up after all of this

Jiraiya>Kakuzu
Sasori=Itachi

[Gspot]

Itachi and Sasori are the major players here, while Jiraiya and Kakuzu are the weaker members of their respective teams by a significant margin.
Trash

However, Jiraiya will be dispatched in seconds by Itachi

Trash

who will then help Kakuzu to finish off Sasori with frightening ease.
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Now we have a weary Itachi versus Jiraiya, who is in considerably better shape. Itachi will probably be backed up into a corner and forced to draw out Susano'o. Jiraiya is taken out with one slash. Itachi wins with moderate difficulty.

Trash.

Nikushimi, I am not impressed.

[Complete_Ownage]

Kakuzu > sasori....dont see poison effecting kakuzu, plus his AoE jutsus for puppets
Sasori > Itachi ....only thing he has here is amaretsu to save his ass

Jiraiya > Kakuzu.....Iron skin wont be to helpfull with a rasengan in the face...however AoE will be a pita for
Jiraiya = Itachi....Although Itachi would most likely beat him in base form


Teach Itachi wins

[Truepotential]

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Trash.

Nikushimi, I am not impressed.

You could actually try to refute his points instead of trolling. :/

[Nikushimi]

You could actually try to refute his points instead of trolling. :/

The problem is, he can't refute them. :zaru

He's just butthurt that his favorite character would get steamrolled by Itachi. At least I gave him enough credit to say he would beat Kakuzu.

[Truepotential]

The problem is, he can't refute them. :zaru

He's just butthurt that his favorite character would get steamrolled by Itachi. At least I gave him enough credit to say he would beat Kakuzu.

Denial, it's one hell of a drug. :dupe

Lawl, in character Jiraiya probably couldn't beat Kakuzu and his Bijuu level blasts. :dupe

[shiner]

Hard to tell. Sasori is a bad match up for Itachi and Jiraiya could take Kakuzu. So if the fight was inclined to end up like that, then Sasori & Jiraiya would take it.

However, if the match were to go Sasori vs Kakuzu and Jiraiya against Itachi, things would become vastly different. Sasori couldn't exactly do alot to Kakuzu's iron skin and I wouldn't know if the other hearts in his body could be released with it active. Satetsu would have to play a vital role and it's an open field, getting into HM would prove difficult for Jiraiya.

A starting distance wouldn't hurt also, OP

[Gspot]

You don't allow me to mark out trash that is trash, yet you allow Nikushimi to get away with saying "Jiraiya will be dispatched in seconds by Itachi, who will then help Kakuzu to finish off Sasori with frightening ease", even though that is just opinionated fiction. Do you see the problem? It's just that you (Truepotential, Chief) agree with Nikushimi and take pleasure in his substanceless claims, that you come down on me. We all know how intensely Nikushimi tries to shit on everyone Itachi is pitted against, and makes Itachi sound like a god.

I mean, how am I supposed to respond to that kind of statement? Arguing reasonably doesn't get me anywhere with Nikushimi, in the many times I've patiently tried it. I'm not the one going around saying "so-and-so solos with his cock" or "so-and-so rapestomps the Sannin together", or even "so-and-so beats Fumma Pein + Oro + Tsunade + Gaara + Edo-Shodai + Edo-Nidaime (read this, this is the most absurd thing I have ever seen - http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=407956).

Respect and I'm sorry to you three for the "trolling", but as long as Nikushimi especially tries to shit on Jiraiya, I will be there to call him out on it and respond with equally substanceless statements, unless he uses good reason. People's opinions are different, but the way Nikushimi tries to put down others viciously while elevating his dear Itachi is just sick. You all know it, it's just that the people who agree (Itachi-supporters) like it. And I'm not generalizing, I respect a lot of Itachi-supporters I've seen who argue well and reasonably and respectfully... but my goodness, have there been a lot of the other kind.

[Rescuebear]

Kakazu might put up a decent fight but against both Sasori and Jiraiya he would enevitably be over powered.
Itachi dies in the first 5 second due to inferiority...

[Nikushimi]

You don't allow me to mark out trash that is trash, yet you allow Nikushimi to get away with saying "Jiraiya will be dispatched in seconds by Itachi, who will then help Kakuzu to finish off Sasori with frightening ease", even though that is just opinionated fiction. Do you see the problem? It's just that you (Truepotential, Chief) agree with Nikushimi and take pleasure in his substanceless claims, that you come down on me. We all know how intensely Nikushimi tries to shit on everyone Itachi is pitted against, and makes Itachi sound like a god.

I mean, how am I supposed to respond to that kind of statement? Arguing reasonably doesn't get me anywhere with Nikushimi, in the many times I've patiently tried it. I'm not the one going around saying "so-and-so solos with his cock" or "so-and-so rapestomps the Sannin together", or even "so-and-so beats Fumma Pein + Oro + Tsunade + Gaara + Edo-Shodai + Edo-Nidaime (read this, this is the most absurd thing I have ever seen - http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=407956).

Respect and I'm sorry to you three for the "trolling", but as long as Nikushimi especially tries to shit on Jiraiya, I will be there to call him out on it and respond with equally substanceless statements, unless he uses good reason. People's opinions are different, but the way Nikushimi tries to put down others viciously while elevating his dear Itachi is just sick. You all know it, it's just that the people who agree (Itachi-supporters) like it. And I'm not generalizing, I respect a lot of Itachi-supporters I've seen who argue well and reasonably and respectfully... but my goodness, have there been a lot of the other kind.

I'm truly sorry for your woes, Gspot. I really am. :blinditachi

"Substanceless claims"? Here's a little fun fact you may find interesting: Itachi has defeated Jiraiya-level opponents with the same ease I always claim he is capable of. Orochimaru twice, Deidara once...Madara said even Sasuke would've been one-shotted with Mangekyou Sharingan if Itachi had been serious. So actually, my "substanceless claims" adhere to and are supported by canon, whereas you and others like you who say Jiraiya would put up a fight just use baseless speculation like "Jiraiya knows what not to do" and "Jiraiya wouldn't fall for the same tricks" and "Jiraiya would use such-and-such technique to avoid it." Quite frankly, that is substanceless. It's all baseless, fan-driven bullshit that contradicts canon every step of the way.

I will seriously apologize to you, though. I ask for it, big time, and you do well not to engage me on that level. But just so you know, I'm only fighting fire with fire; I tried reasoning at first, but there are some idiots who won't listen to reason. They simply need to be dealt with using one-liners and put-downs that let them know how wrong they are.

And about that thread you claim is so ridiculous...I still think the battle would end with Itachi as the victor. He is grossly superior to any of those shinobi. The Edo Tensei'd Shodai and Nidai? Like flies to him, and they would be swatted in short order with the Totsuka no Tsurugi. Just like Itachi slashed eight heads off an S-Rank summon before any of them could reach him. I am not making claims that are far beyond Itachi's actual reach. This is Itachi.

[Nikushimi]

Kakazu might put up a decent fight but against both Sasori and Jiraiya he would enevitably be over powered.
Itachi dies in the first 5 second due to inferiority...

I'll ignore the obvious trolling element of this and just say "Lolno. You're wrong. :zaru"

[The Chief]

You have such a terrifying grasp of the english language, Niku. It even frightens the anti-itachitards.

Keep it up.

[Rescuebear]

I'll ignore the obvious trolling element of this and just say "Lolno. You're wrong.
Hey c'mon, i put up with yours :zaru

You have such a terrifying grasp of the english language, Niku. It even frightens the anti-itachitards.

Keep it up.

What are you? Niku's cheerleader? Do you have pom pom's and an intricate cheerleader dance?

[Nikushimi]

Come on now... At least when he trolls it's kinda funny and everything he says is still kind of true.

No, when I troll it's fawkin' hilarious and 100% prooved manga fakt. :zaru


So let's put our differences aside for a minute: What's the problem here? Kakuzu holds off Jiraiya while Sasori holds off Itachi. Fatigued Itachi and Jiraiya eventually meet eachother in battle at the end. Itachi wins. :blinditachi

[zabuza666]

You have such a terrifying grasp of the english language, Niku. It even frightens the anti-itachitards.

Keep it up.

mmmmm *fellatio* *takes a break from fellatio* "oh Nikushimi your so awesome stick it in my ass pls" *resumes fellatio* mmmmmm.

I know this post will get deleted and I'll probably get tempa or possible even perma banned, but it'll be so worth it. :nuts

[Matto-sama]

jiraiya and sasori take this with extreme difficulty

[Inksplash]

Dark swamp, anyone?

Saying Itachi has no defense is kinda stupid. Shadow clones and crows could act as defense, plus he's at least kage level; he would have a defense, and a damn good one too.


Team Itachi wins. Kakuzu is too hard to take down early. If there's no knowledge, then Jiraiya has the possibility of being taken by a HUGE suprise at finding out this guy has five hearts and is ready to take yours. Itachi only needs to support Kakuzu with a shadow clone or something and then Jiraiya is gone.

Sasori would be hard to take down because of puppets. MAJOR pain, but could pull it off.

[dandyman]

Kakazu might put up a decent fight but against both Sasori and Jiraiya he would enevitably be over powered.
Itachi dies in the first 5 second due to inferiority...
Oh my god... could you please stop your stupid fanboyism? There are people trying to have a serious debate and then you come and make a statement such as Itachi lasting 5 seconds in this battle? It's ridiculous. He wouldn't even have the time to activate his sharingan.

[Cyphon]

Oh my god... could you please stop your stupid fanboyism? There are people trying to have a serious debate and then you come and make a statement such as Itachi lasting 5 seconds in this battle? It's ridiculous. He wouldn't even have the time to activate his sharingan.

:quite

Kind of reminds me of how all of the Itachi tards sound in here. A taste of there own medicine perhaps.

[Ephemere]

Team Itachi would win, simply because of the presence of Kakuzu on their team. Kakuzu is the bane of Sasori, due to his Jutsu, Doton Domu. This ability renders the totality of his attacks, completely useless, from the poisoned senbon, to Satetsu Shigure. Most of his moves just aren't potent enough to get through, what's worse is that the only one that might, the blocks, can be knocked aside by Kakazu's doton boosted strength. This is then added to his highly effective long ranged elementals, which Sasori has no answer to.

Jiraiya is unlikely to kill Kakuzu and Itachi before the Uchiha has cast Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi, as Kakuzu is again in the way. Even Gamayu Endan, would probably be stopped by the fuuton + katon combo. For team Jiraiya to win he would need to get into Senin Modo, but Kakuzu's dominance of Sasori gives Itachi plenty of charging time.
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[Complete_Ownage]

Oh my god... could you please stop your stupid fanboyism? There are people trying to have a serious debate and then you come and make a statement such as Itachi lasting 5 seconds in this battle? It's ridiculous. He wouldn't even have the time to activate his sharingan.

There is never a serious debate when Nikushimi enters a thread with itachi or Jaraiya in it. Taking a page from Nikushimi...

Itachi is fodder in this fight compared to these three beasts

:facepalm

[The Hand of God]

I'm truly sorry for your woes, Gspot. I really am. :blinditachi

"Substanceless claims"? Here's a little fun fact you may find interesting: Itachi has defeated Jiraiya-level opponents with the same ease I always claim he is capable of. Orochimaru twice, Deidara once...Madara said even Sasuke would've been one-shotted with Mangekyou Sharingan if Itachi had been serious. So actually, my "substanceless claims" adhere to and are supported by canon, whereas you and others like you who say Jiraiya would put up a fight just use baseless speculation like "Jiraiya knows what not to do" and "Jiraiya wouldn't fall for the same tricks" and "Jiraiya would use such-and-such technique to avoid it." Quite frankly, that is substanceless. It's all baseless, fan-driven bullshit that contradicts canon every step of the way.

I will seriously apologize to you, though. I ask for it, big time, and you do well not to engage me on that level. But just so you know, I'm only fighting fire with fire; I tried reasoning at first, but there are some idiots who won't listen to reason. They simply need to be dealt with using one-liners and put-downs that let them know how wrong they are.

And about that thread you claim is so ridiculous...I still think the battle would end with Itachi as the victor. He is grossly superior to any of those shinobi. The Edo Tensei'd Shodai and Nidai? Like flies to him, and they would be swatted in short order with the Totsuka no Tsurugi. Just like Itachi slashed eight heads off an S-Rank summon before any of them could reach him. I am not making claims that are far beyond Itachi's actual reach. This is Itachi.


I kneel down before this magnificent post

Sasori becomes Itachi's puppet and makes delicious frog legs out of HM Jiraiya.

[Ephemere]

You could actually try to refute his points instead of trolling. :/

Hahaha, maybe, but that would require for him to actually get a life, something he is obviously incapable of doing if thats his best arguement. My motto for forums is that if I cant put my best into a post, then I dont post at all, and I think that would generally untrash bullshit on most forums, I think people should get a hang of that, before they start raising posting quotas and more and more people like him get banned

[Rescuebear]

Oh my god... could you please stop your stupid fanboyism? There are people trying to have a serious debate and then you come and make a statement such as Itachi lasting 5 seconds in this battle? It's ridiculous. He wouldn't even have the time to activate his sharingan.

Oh c'mon, its pretty obvious that i was just giving Niku a taste of his own medicine, he knew, that is all that matters.
Plus i dont see how say Jiraiya would die quickly and Itachi would die quickly are any different, there both ridiculous.

[geminis]

Itachi"s team wins.

Kakuzu would get trashed by J-man, Sasori would be handles rather quickly my Itachi,

Then J-man pushes Itachi to the point of using MS, and then Itachi wins and has to go rest somewhere.

[Pussy Monster]

Sasori and Jiraiya win.

Sasori has all the necessary components to handling Itachi and Jiraiya can take on Kakuzu with little trouble.

[~SAGE~]

I dont think Sai is enough to help out Jiraiya so Jiraiya trying to solo against them would be spectacular to see but Itachi and Kakuzu would win

[Legendarywun]

You don't allow me to mark out trash that is trash, yet you allow Nikushimi to get away with saying "Jiraiya will be dispatched in seconds by Itachi, who will then help Kakuzu to finish off Sasori with frightening ease", even though that is just opinionated fiction. Do you see the problem? It's just that you (Truepotential, Chief) agree with Nikushimi and take pleasure in his substanceless claims, that you come down on me. We all know how intensely Nikushimi tries to shit on everyone Itachi is pitted against, and makes Itachi sound like a god.

I mean, how am I supposed to respond to that kind of statement? Arguing reasonably doesn't get me anywhere with Nikushimi, in the many times I've patiently tried it. I'm not the one going around saying "so-and-so solos with his cock" or "so-and-so rapestomps the Sannin together", or even "so-and-so beats Fumma Pein + Oro + Tsunade + Gaara + Edo-Shodai + Edo-Nidaime (read this, this is the most absurd thing I have ever seen - http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=407956).

Respect and I'm sorry to you three for the "trolling", but as long as Nikushimi especially tries to shit on Jiraiya, I will be there to call him out on it and respond with equally substanceless statements, unless he uses good reason. People's opinions are different, but the way Nikushimi tries to put down others viciously while elevating his dear Itachi is just sick. You all know it, it's just that the people who agree (Itachi-supporters) like it. And I'm not generalizing, I respect a lot of Itachi-supporters I've seen who argue well and reasonably and respectfully... but my goodness, have there been a lot of the other kind.

Don't wrry about em, he's just a lost little child trying to find meaning in the world after finding out, his idol ain't really all that. Along with his supporters they try to overturn the tide of truth, yet still fail. Do what most of us do, just ignore him....:wink

On topic:

Jiraiya and Sasori with out a doubt.

Poison will spread through Kakuzu killing all his hearts
Jiraiya would defeat Itachi with minor difficulties..If Itachi brings out Susano'o or Amaterasu than i'd say with great difficulty.

But in the End, J and Sasori FTW.

Read sig for the truth.

[Final Jutsu]

Hard one, I'd say Itachi/Kakuzu though.. reasons are that sasori and jiraiya need prep time to go full force.. Sasori needs to summon sandaime kazekage and jiraiya needs at least a bit of time for HM.. though, even if this doesn't prove a factor.. Itachi can burn all the puppets with amaterasu, or kakuzu can destroy them with a katon.. Reason sas/jir lose I think is due to sasori being at a disadvantage.. Itachi can see the chakra in his main body and strike.. jiraiya would be left alone to do battle, and kak/itachi would prove too much even for HM.

[maximilyan]

Team Itachi would win, simply because of the presence of Kakuzu on their team. Kakuzu is the bane of Sasori, due to his Jutsu, Doton Domu. This ability renders the totality of his attacks, completely useless, from the poisoned senbon, to Satetsu Shigure. Most of his moves just aren't potent enough to get through, what's worse is that the only one that might, the blocks, can be knocked aside by Kakazu's doton boosted strength. This is then added to his highly effective long ranged elementals, which Sasori has no answer to.

Jiraiya is unlikely to kill Kakuzu and Itachi before the Uchiha has cast Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi, as Kakuzu is again in the way. Even Gamayu Endan, would probably be stopped by the fuuton + katon combo. For team Jiraiya to win he would need to get into Senin Modo, but Kakuzu's dominance of Sasori gives Itachi plenty of charging time.

qft. quality post.

[Itachi's Apprentice 3]

Itachi and Kakuzu win. Itachi and Sasori are the major players here, while Jiraiya and Kakuzu are the weaker members of their respective teams by a significant margin. The deciding factor, however, is how they measure up against their enemies; if Kakuzu goes after Sasori, he will prove to be a bad match-up for Sasori, and the fight will be dragged out. However, Jiraiya will be dispatched in seconds by Itachi, who will then help Kakuzu to finish off Sasori with frightening ease. If Kakuzu goes after Jiraiya, the fight will last a long time, Jiraiya will need Sennin Moodo, and the battle will eventually end with Jiraiya the winner. While this is happening, Itachi will fight Sasori and probably use Amaterasu. Sasori will escape by ejecting his heart container and attacking Itachi, but Sharingan can see chakra, and with Itachi's speed, the heart transfer won't go unnoticed. Itachi will focus on the heart area and Amaterasu it, making sure to have the flames follow if it ejects again. Sasori isn't fast enough to escape it now that Itachi knows his trick, so it's bye-bye. Now we have a weary Itachi versus Jiraiya, who is in considerably better shape. Itachi will probably be backed up into a corner and forced to draw out Susano'o. Jiraiya is taken out with one slash. Itachi wins with moderate difficulty.

I cant say it any better myself :blinditachi. One Tsukoyomi(Only one with Sharingan and Uchiha blood can even hope of overcoming it dead Jiraiya and One Amaterasu takes out Sasori. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/142/15/

[akatsuki8]

itachi is just too good

[Pyoko123]

I don't expect kakuzu would do THAT much in the fight, but itachi just has too many good abilites.

[Juracule Mihawk]

Without knowledge, Itachi and Kakuzu rape, very hard. Itachi spams with Tsukiyomi and Ameratasu, maybe even Susannoo. And in the end he may die, but he will atleast take 1 opponent with him. In this case maybe even two.

Kakuzu is a beast, who has multiple elements and is very good in a battle with short-, mid- and longdistance. Plus he can "die" 5 times. :awesome