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Halo
09-18-2008, 12:42 AM
Yahoo! News Link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080917/ap_on_bi_ge/washington_mutual;_ylt=Ap3L3FTmCisMweJ4klh6NU4DW7o F)

With stock sinking, WaMu appears headed for sale

Ailing bank Washington Mutual Inc. appeared headed toward a sale Wednesday after a major investor removed a potential stumbling block and nervous banking regulators began approaching the most logical buyers.
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The New York Times, citing unidentified people familiar with the matter, said an auction of the bank was already under way, and The Wall Street Journal reported Wells Fargo & Co. and Citigroup Inc. expressed interest in a takeover.

WaMu, Wells Fargo and Citigroup all declined to comment.

A concession by investment firm TPG, which injected $7 billion into WaMu five months ago, may have opened the way to a sale — or, failing that, made it easier for the bank to raise another round of capital.

TPG could have stymied the process because of protection when it bought its stake in April. A clause in its agreement could have required a buyer or another major investor to pay TPG hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars in addition to whatever money was injected into WaMu.

But TPG agreed to waive the clause after concluding WaMu needs all the help it can get.

"It became clear that it would be in the best interests of Washington Mutual and our investors to waive the ... provisions," Fort Worth, Texas-based TPG said in a statement. "Our goal is to maximize the bank's flexibility in this difficult market environment."

The efforts to find a buyer, though, were being complicated by uncertainty about the magnitude of losses still lurking in Washington Mutual's home loan portfolio.

"No one knows what's in their books," said a person briefed on the talks between regulators and banks, speaking Wednesday on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

Citing unidentified sources, the New York Post said the potential buyers include JPMorgan Chase & Co. and HSBC Holdings PLC., as well as Wells Fargo. The banks all declined to comment.

Federal regulators would like to sell WaMu to a healthy bank, rather than risk a failure that would drain an already depleted deposit insurance fund. By some estimates, a WaMu failure could cost the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.'s fund more than $20 billion. At $45.2 billion, the fund is already at a five-year low.

After losing $6.3 billion in the past three quarters, Washington Mutual believes it is slowly healing under a new chief executive, Alan Fishman, who will receive an $8 million bonus if he can keep WaMu alive through 2009.

"I think people do know what is in our books and we've been pretty transparent," WaMu spokeswoman Olivia Riley said Wednesday, pointing to a financial update the company released late last week. Those figures suggested WaMu's loan problems are becoming less severe compared to recent quarters, giving some analysts hope that the company can still be salvaged.

Nonetheless, analysts still expect the company to sustain a loss of about $1.8 billion in the quarter ending Sept. 30. And investors are showing little confidence in WaMu.

The company's stock fell 31 cents to $2.01 Wednesday, leaving the stock price with a decline of 85 percent so far this year. The erosion has left WaMu with a market value of about $3.5 billion — down from $43 billion at the end of 2006.

"Something needs to happen soon because WaMu is twisting in the wind," said Bert Ely, an Alexandria, Va., banking consultant. "It's a detrimental situation that has become corrosive to the franchise."

Assuming that Washington Mutual either can't find a buyer or doesn't want to be sold at the price being offered, the thrift could raise more money to fatten its cushion against the losses that are still expected to come. Like TPG did, any investor would be betting that the slumping real estate market will bounce back, allowing Washington Mutual to regain its financial equilibrium and return to the form that enabled it to pocket profits totaling $13.7 billion from 2003 through 2006.

In a Monday research note, Keefe, Bruyette & Woods analyst Frederick Cannon estimated Washington Mutual probably needs to raise at least $5 billion to protect itself from upcoming losses. Cannon thinks Washington Mutual could still be facing as much as $28 billion more in loan losses and other credit-related expenses through 2009.

Alternately, Ely thinks WaMu could sell big chunks of its franchise, which includes $143 billion in deposits and more than 2,200 branches in 15 states. Most of WaMu's branches are in the West, overlapping territory where Wells Fargo and Bank of America are the market leaders.

WaMu's branches in New York and Illinois also could be appealing to buyers if the company is sold in pieces, Ely said. "When you are dealing with a company this big, there are lots of ways you can slice and dice it," he said. This one was only a matter of time so I'm not surprised. I don't feel like making another thread or posting two articles, but the other big one is Wachovia's possible acquisition of Morgan Stanley.

Kunoichi no Kiri
09-18-2008, 12:46 AM
The consolidation of the American financial industry can only be helpful in the long run. Kinda sucks in the short run though. :iria

Lord Yu
09-18-2008, 12:50 AM
I've got an extra 5 billion somewhere. Let me see.

Xion
09-18-2008, 12:51 AM
I've always wanted to own a bank. :iria

Looks like I'll be owning several now. :zaru

Purgatory
09-18-2008, 12:53 AM
I call dibs before the government does.

Mider T
09-18-2008, 12:55 AM
To tell you the truth, when I saw the news about AIG I knew it was only a matter of time.

narutosimpson
09-18-2008, 01:41 AM
why would the consolidation be good? the competition was great. it produced a superior bank such as washington mutual. It's unfortunate that the greed that overcame everybody involved in the housing bubble will also take down wamu. We'll be left with asshole banks like chase and citibank and b of a.

Well, i hope wells fargo picks up wamu. They are the only bank that seems comparable as far as customer service goes.

Mael
09-18-2008, 01:43 AM
why would the consolidation be good? the competition was great. it produced a superior bank such as washington mutual. It's unfortunate that the greed that overcame everybody involved in the housing bubble will also take down wamu. We'll be left with asshole banks like chase and citibank and b of a.

Well, i hope wells fargo picks up wamu. They are the only bank that seems comparable as far as customer service goes.

Any word on Sovereign Bank? Or is SB too small time to be as affected as the rest of these blokes?

narutosimpson
09-18-2008, 01:50 AM
sovereign bank has been having problems, i think they might fail, if i recall correctly.

drache
09-18-2008, 11:26 AM
this is so not good, mostly for reason Narutosimpson has already expressed

and even more so because in the end because of all the pain this is causing

Mael
09-18-2008, 11:56 AM
sovereign bank has been having problems, i think they might fail, if i recall correctly.

I read some reports from E-Trade and while they're going to lose profit, they're not nearly as big on the mortgage scene as others so their likelihood of falling is much less than other banks.

Sovereign is a lot more into consumer banking and not nearly the juggernaut that BoA is. For that reason as I felt before and after reading their reports that they'll struggle but not fall.

Wouldn't be surprised if BoA tried to swallow up more banks though. Gordon Gekko strikes back.

The Space Cowboy
09-18-2008, 02:27 PM
It's Ragnarok for the Finance Industry

drache
09-18-2008, 07:16 PM
It's Ragnarok for the Finance Industry

Except there will be no rebirth for some of these companies.

Xion
09-18-2008, 07:18 PM
They should just call this market The Tumbler. :D:

adee
09-19-2008, 12:19 AM
Printing Press Turn On!
Full Speedo!!!!

Xion
09-19-2008, 01:09 AM
Wow. Now we will own both an insurance agency AND a bank! :WOW

America. Fuck Yeah! :party

Girls' Generation
09-19-2008, 01:22 AM
QUICK! Withdraw ALL your money before the bank fails and refuses to sell!