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Jiraiya_sama
06-30-2005, 03:49 PM
He is....
the third Kazekage!

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2083/180xa.png

Artuir
06-30-2005, 03:51 PM
Man, I don't think any theories *touched* what 266 showed us. I was shocked.

And the summary floating around was completely bunk too.

Jiraiya_sama
06-30-2005, 04:16 PM
Man, I don't think any theories *touched* what 266 showed us. I was shocked.

And the summary floating around was completely bunk too.
what do you mean exactly?
are you trying to say the akatsuki leader is a puppet controlled by sasori or something?

Despaired_Angel
06-30-2005, 04:21 PM
Why do you always make up impossible and idiotic theories that make no sense whatsoever? The third Kazekage is DEAD, killed by Sasori, thats why he has a puppet of him.

knowledge
06-30-2005, 04:23 PM
ummm i think it was a joke, because they seem to have somewhat similiar eyes...

Shd
06-30-2005, 04:24 PM
I thought that until I scroled next page of manga :D

lwong81
06-30-2005, 04:26 PM
i hope this is a joke..

Marsala
06-30-2005, 04:28 PM
Man, I don't think any theories *touched* what 266 showed us. I was shocked.

And the summary floating around was completely bunk too.
Actually the second summary was correct, but all it said was that Sasori is a bishounen and Sakura and Chiyo are worried.

P4BL0
06-30-2005, 04:31 PM
Yeah, tis probably a joke... 'cause I've never read such an unprobable theory.

Marsala
06-30-2005, 04:31 PM
Of course it's a joke. There's a tomoe visible in the puppet's eye, so he's clearly the 3rd Mangekyou Sharingan user. Unless... he's BOTH!!!!!

RAGING BONER
06-30-2005, 04:32 PM
Why do you always make up impossible and idiotic theories that make no sense whatsoever? thats who he is...you get used to it after banging your head on the keyboard a few hundred times.

BarbNara
06-30-2005, 04:35 PM
Oh God...not again with weird theories >_<.
The third Kazekage was killed by Sasori, Kishimoto showed that to prove that Sasori just powns, could kill the third Kazekage and make a puppet.

Jiraiya_sama
06-30-2005, 04:40 PM
thats who he is...you get used to it after banging your head on the keyboard a few hundred times.
I'm just trying to be a nut as much as you
this will sure be a long journey :nuts

boro
06-30-2005, 04:47 PM
well..i thought that too when i was reading it, it seemed like the leader is the third kazehage, but at the end, it isn't...he's a FREAKEN PUPPET

Lord Of Reapers
06-30-2005, 04:50 PM
It cant be the third kazekage cause Sasori made him into one of his puppets

Dyroness
06-30-2005, 05:10 PM
Those lines are puppet eyes, not akatsuki leaders'.
And besides, his body was already used, the proof is in the own image. O_0

Aregashi
06-30-2005, 05:13 PM
thats very weak theory btw...

MasamuneX7
06-30-2005, 05:49 PM
Naruto Databook 3 Entry, pg. 53:

Name: Jiraiya_sama (Not to be confused with Legendary Sannin, Jiraiya)
Village: NFgakure no Sato
Rank: Elite Teacher
Age: Unknown
Special Ability: Setsu no Jutsu (Theory Technique) - Type: Genjutsu, Rank: S, Range: Close - Far

Jiraiya_sama has a habit of making up theories (plausible only to himself) about things that have never been proven or things counter to those that have already been stated as facts numerous times and throwing them in your face as his own little "facts" (which are actually his own biased opinions) of the Naruto universe. He is very prideful of his "facts" and will argue with you to no end to drive his beliefs into your mind. It is believed that the only other person powerful enough to counter his Setsu no Jutsu is the legendary Kishimoto Masashi, though even he may find great difficulty in doing so.

o0ps
06-30-2005, 05:54 PM
It would have been a goood theory if the manga would have covered more of Naruto's fight instead of showing us Sasori's favorite puppet. I myself thought along the same lines until I finished.

Sopis
06-30-2005, 07:04 PM
The 3rd kazekage,he dissapeared ,they never found his body,and .. lok at his hair,same at the akatsuki leader!

Well prolly no,who knows,but i think that he can be the leader

OmniStrife
06-30-2005, 07:06 PM
He's Sasori's special puppet.

Zabuza-san
06-30-2005, 07:06 PM
The 3rd kazekage,he dissapeared ,they never found his body,and .. lok at his hair,same at the akatsuki leader!

Well prolly no,who knows,but i think that he can be the leader
he's not the leader, sasori have him ass a puppet...

Maxlee
06-30-2005, 07:06 PM
It has been clearly shown that that 3rd kazekage guy is now a damn puppet.

About 10% of all Naruto characters have some sort of spikey hair, so if you base everything on that, then there's a lot of people being leader of akatsuki.

Fire101
06-30-2005, 07:10 PM
Guess he only read half of 266...

Maxlee
06-30-2005, 07:11 PM
A lot of characters also have a second ring in their eye, so whenever the page shows some darn eye like that and the ink messes it up and creates 3 dots, it's immediately enough material for 5 more sharingan theories.

lwong81
06-30-2005, 07:28 PM
yeah, he probably only read the 1st part....he didn't get to where sasori pulled the 3rd out of his scroll...

Keido
06-30-2005, 07:31 PM
Guess he only read half of 266...
hahahahaha xD thats weird xD

ahem... Akatuski leader is unknown =] im still thinking the 4th Hokage

Shinigami1980
06-30-2005, 07:38 PM
he is not the leader he is sasori's special puppet....chiyo-baa confirmed it ..and also when sasori opened the scroll it said "3" on it

Artuir
06-30-2005, 08:57 PM
what do you mean exactly?
are you trying to say the akatsuki leader is a puppet controlled by sasori or something?

No no, that's not what I said. I honestly don't think the leader is the third kage from the sand.. and it's definitely not the puppet obviously. but the hair looks very similar and i'm wondering if it's maybe like the son of the third (sand not leaf) or something..

bobo
06-30-2005, 09:02 PM
God, I love the akatsuki leader theories.

Maxlee
06-30-2005, 09:05 PM
Besides, this whole arc would be a little bit too much about The Sand, if the Akatsuki leader himself is from The Sand too. Not to mention being coincidental that all those Sand guys would come together this way.

Freija
06-30-2005, 09:11 PM
Naruto Databook 3 Entry, pg. 53:

Name: Jiraiya_sama (Not to be confused with Legendary Sannin, Jiraiya)
Village: NFgakure no Sato
Rank: Elite Teacher
Age: Unknown
Special Ability: Setsu no Jutsu (Theory Technique) - Type: Genjutsu, Rank: S, Range: Close - Far

Jiraiya_sama has a habit of making up theories (plausible only to himself) about things that have never been proven or things counter to those that have already been stated as facts numerous times and throwing them in your face as his own little "facts" (which are actually his own biased opinions) of the Naruto universe. He is very prideful of his "facts" and will argue with you to no end to drive his beliefs into your mind. It is believed that the only other person powerful enough to counter his Setsu no Jutsu is the legendary Kishimoto Masashi, though even he may find great difficulty in doing so.
hahaha best one i've read in a long time *reps for you*

Akukairu
06-30-2005, 09:17 PM
where are the moderators?

mgrace
06-30-2005, 09:45 PM
Well...

We have seen Sasori get out a new puppet.... Sandaime... the Puppet...

but.... Te sand elders said they never found his body... and Sandaime was way powerful...

I think... Sandaime is just a Puppet and dead in the ground or he is the Akatsuki leader

Maxlee
06-30-2005, 09:47 PM
But but but but yesterday Yondaime was the Akatsuki leader, and and and last friday it was Neji's dad, and the week before that we all agreed the Akatsuki leader is Rin, so where, how, what, huh ?

Akukairu
06-30-2005, 09:52 PM
why is it that every time a new character is introduced they suddenly become the akatsuki leader?

if someone could just logical explain why they say somebody is the akatsuki leader it would be cool but .... look...

Negative-Ion
06-30-2005, 09:55 PM
Well Sandaime KazeKage cant be the leader, Sasori skinned him alive.

floopyliangchu
06-30-2005, 10:09 PM
But but but but yesterday Yondaime was the Akatsuki leader, and and and last friday it was Neji's dad, and the week before that we all agreed the Akatsuki leader is Rin, so where, how, what, huh ?

lol lol lol

maxhrk
06-30-2005, 10:18 PM
akatsuki leader is... Mgrace! I have no evidence but i know it is him who is actual an akatsuki leader. :)

heh heh.

Peyote
06-30-2005, 10:20 PM
The Akatsuki Leader is Shino's dad. I thought we all agreed on that?

Oh yeah...

*rolls around in the Konoha Landfill*

Low-fi Boy
06-30-2005, 10:21 PM
Lol @ Maxhrk, Mgrace's making this bogus theory to divert attention that s/he's really the Akatsuki leader

Akukairu
06-30-2005, 10:29 PM
Lol @ Maxhrk, Mgrace's making this bogus theory to divert attention that s/he's really the Akatsuki leader
at least if theres a akatsuki leader mgrace fc tomorrow i know who to blame

KuwabaraTheMan
06-30-2005, 10:31 PM
Aburame Shibi is the Akatsuki Leader, or its a new character. There are no other possibilities.

Low-fi Boy
06-30-2005, 10:35 PM
at least if theres a akatsuki leader mgrace fc tomorrow i know who to blame

"Oh my god what have I done?!"
Lol, I'm sorry, I'll be good.

bobo
06-30-2005, 10:38 PM
What about Pakkun? They both sound the same.

Wrath
06-30-2005, 10:59 PM
I was going to trash these threads, but I guess it's not entirely disproved yet. We don't exactly know for sure whether that puppet really is the 3rd. So instead I merged them.

Onigun
07-01-2005, 12:10 AM
We don't exactly know for sure whether that puppet really is the 3rd. So instead I merged them.


wtf?


Is it just me or do 50% of the people on these boards suffer from reading comprehension?

Come on guys, its a freaking children manga, not War and Peace.

Akukairu
07-01-2005, 12:15 AM
yeah... this thread should get closed... that was pretty clearly the 3rd kazekage, they wouldnt have a whole chapter dedicated to explaining his disappearance then have chiyo clearly say that it was him then suddenly say he was being deceitful

itachidattebayo
07-01-2005, 12:24 AM
That is so stupid and lame.....the third Kazekage looks nothing like the leader and he's dead.....

Anazuraion
07-01-2005, 12:50 AM
the third was his puppet he summoned at the end not the leader of akutski

maxhrk
07-01-2005, 02:08 AM
remember the twist plot part in bleach manga? imagine Sasori puppeting the Akatsuki leader the whole time.. nobody in Akatsuki organization knew that! WOW! THAT IS AMAZING!(no sacarasm intended here)

Jiraiya_sama
07-01-2005, 03:17 AM
remember the twist plot part in bleach manga? imagine Sasori puppeting the Akatsuki leader the whole time.. nobody in Akatsuki organization knew that! WOW! THAT IS AMAZING!(no sacarasm intended here)
yeah that might just be true, he would control him from distance with special poison...

akatsuki leader is the third kazekage:
-same hair according to the statue
-same eyes (double circle) according to the Third puppet
-the Sand elders think he couldn't have been defeated
-his body was never found

in all honnesty I'm more and more inclined to think Sasori is controlling everyone from the shadows now, that just fits a puppeter so much. especially since he seems not having aged a day! there's something about him, he's no regular member

wanderround
07-01-2005, 04:05 AM
There hair is NOTHING alike i mean come on if u look close the Puppet has his hair in a bun at the back and the puppet is meant to be the 3rd and if so he cant be the akatsuki leader for one if the akatsuki leader had his hair in a bun we would of noticed by now

U might as well say this is the Akatsuki leader
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/ProtoFire/Akatsuki.png Note not a real spoiler just in case someone gets offended and say DONT SPOIL THE STORY....(sheesh)

Devirochi
07-01-2005, 05:02 AM
He is....
the third Kazekage!

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2083/180xa.png

what a retarded post did you read the full chapter or just to the middle because you can see that the third kazakage is a puppet now sasori have it please dont post useless crap read the full chapter then try to post a good thing idiot LOL :mad

Jiraiya_sama
07-01-2005, 07:47 AM
what a retarded post did you read the full chapter or just to the middle because you can see that the third kazakage is a puppet now sasori have it please dont post useless crap read the full chapter then try to post a good thing idiot LOL :mad
If I read only half of the chapter how could I post this pic you dimwit!
btw doesn't this double circle in the puppet eye remind you something? huh!

Kyuubi Naruto
07-01-2005, 07:57 AM
This has to be one of the of the most retarded things that Jiraiya-sama has ever said. Im writing this down.

Heldensheld
07-01-2005, 08:06 AM
Name: Ohamu Bukaka
Village: Land of faeries
Rank: Random person living on the streets
Age: 30-50
Special Abilties: Beg no jutsu, Give no jutsu- Genjutsu- F-ranked
Range: Close

eXshinobi
07-01-2005, 04:38 PM
To be honest, when I was reading the page where the Sand elders were talking about their Third, I was like, "That gotta be the Leader!" Then, Sasori dropped a bomb on us. The third Kazekage is dead...how? I don't know! I hope Sasori reveals it.

Shadow
07-01-2005, 04:46 PM
this should be moved in the crazy way out theory sections

tunaman
07-01-2005, 05:40 PM
I thought that until I scroled next page of manga :D
^Wow me too.^ But we all know that Sakura is the leader. Playing both sides.:shannaro(That bitch)

Twizted
07-01-2005, 05:40 PM
All I can say is wow. I can''t believe this thread made it this far. You all are feeding this fire *As am I* which really demonstrates that Jiraiya sama is the master....*bows*.....

Ok people, he knows that the 3rd Kazekage is a puppet of Sasori's. We don't need anymore posts telling him that...Clearly most of us don't agree with his theory, but let the man have his opinion and lets get on to something else...

Kimi Sama
07-01-2005, 05:46 PM
*starts to write a proper arguement*

......

Wait no, that would just be silly.

*slaps J-sama in the mouth with a dead trout*

Jiraiya_sama
07-02-2005, 04:55 AM
whatsoever the double circle on the puppet eye is a strong hint

oski
07-02-2005, 06:30 AM
you theory absolutely idiotical

Kimi Sama
07-02-2005, 07:00 AM
whatsoever the double circle on the puppet eye is a strong hint

You do realise that would mean that Sasori is taking orders from his own puppet, that he created?

I shall say that again, in bold, Sasori is taking orders from his own puppet, that he created?

*gets another trout ready to slap jsama with if he argues with this point*

Jiraiya_sama
07-02-2005, 07:44 AM
You do realise that would mean that Sasori is taking orders from his own puppet, that he created?

I shall say that again, in bold, Sasori is taking orders from his own puppet, that he created?

*gets another trout ready to slap jsama with if he argues with this point*
what a friggin idiot
I guess it's useless trying to explain this theory to some random lowly morons

Necroziel
07-02-2005, 08:01 AM
seriously how the hell could it be the third kazekage we saw him there as a puppet and the third eye thing doesnt mean anything next youll be saying Kurenai is the third sharingan user because she has red eyes:P

Code
07-02-2005, 10:48 AM
You do realise that would mean that Sasori is taking orders from his own puppet, that he created?

I shall say that again, in bold, Sasori is taking orders from his own puppet, that he created?

*gets another trout ready to slap jsama with if he argues with this point*
Well other people may not want to listen to a "pint-sized puppet user" so he created a powerful puppet that could easily command with fear...

In other words, someone that is dead. And since the Akatsuki are all kids afraid of ghosts, then they'd be scared of the leader.

Kimi Sama
07-02-2005, 11:30 AM
what a friggin idiot
I guess it's useless trying to explain this theory to some random lowly morons

"Random lowly morons"....?

*looks around* :huh

Oh do you mean me?
Yes, I'm so lowly and random, with my 1,457 posts and 15,000 rep points.
What was I thinking questioning your amazing insightful theory?

Carry on Sir!

*edit*
Actualy changed my mind, I do want to argue with you afterall.

So your saying that Sasori is pretending to take orders from the puppet of SKK, right? Please, spell it out... my lowly moronic brain doesnt get it

Code
07-02-2005, 11:37 AM
"Random lowly morons"....?

*looks around* :huh

Oh do you mean me?
Yes, I'm so lowly and random, with my 1,457 posts and 15,000 rep points.
What was I thinking questioning your amazing insightful theory?

Carry on Sir!

*edit*
Actualy changed my mind, I do want to argue with you afterall.

So your saying that Sasori is pretending to take orders from the puppet of SKK, right? Please, spell it out... my lowly moronic brain doesnt get it
...

Your "lowly moronic" brain missed my post above.

Kimi Sama
07-02-2005, 11:50 AM
Oh no I did see that Code, but I was hoping the great jsama could take the time to explain it himself, since he took the time to insult my intelligence.

I think Sasori has done a good enough job being intimidating from inside his Hiruko puppet, personally.

Gah I really cant be bothered with this arguement any more, so my final comment will be that it's interesting how vaguely similar hair and eyes makes SKK a candidate for being the leader. If it's that simple, Kurenai is the Other Last Uchiha. Her eyes do look a bit like Sharingan, afterall!

Code
07-02-2005, 11:53 AM
Oh no I did see that Code, but I was hoping the great jsama could take the time to explain it himself, since he took the time to insult my intelligence.

I think Sasori has done a good enough job being intimidating from inside his Hiruko puppet, personally.

Gah I really cant be bothered with this arguement any more, so my final comment will be that it's interesting how vaguely similar hair and eyes makes SKK a candidate for being the leader. If it's that simple, Kurenai is the Other Last Uchiha. Her eyes do look a bit like Sharingan, afterall!
Don't forget she's a genjutsu specialist like Itachi....

She is the 1st or 2nd Mangekyo Sharingan user! Or better yet, Megakyo Sharingan due to the eye difference.

qOcOp
07-02-2005, 03:37 PM
Maybe sasori didnt really killed him, he used a jutsu he knows that makes a clone of him but weaker and it dont disappears, it makes chiyo thinks that he killed the 3rd kazekage but really the 3rd kaze is just chillin letting sasori take out the trash.

Jiraiya_sama
07-02-2005, 04:50 PM
well kimi-sama

there are several hints pointing to some links between akatsuki leader and the third kazekage:
1.the Sand elders doubt the third could have been killed
2.same spikey hair
3.last but not least the third puppet eye has exactly the same double circles as the leader eyes

I'm more & more inclined to think sasori is actually the founder of Akatsuki

let me explain this:
what if sasori had taken control of the third with some poison and turned him into a puppet in order to pull the strings of Akatsuki from the shadows? it fits a puppeter so well.

it fits chronogically too: sasori left the Sand 20yrs ago (ie at the end of the 3rd great war) and that's just a few monthes/years before Orochimaru left Konoha and joined Akatsuki

that's just a theory, don't give any credit to it and get a hold of yourself

Elvera
06-24-2006, 02:28 PM
These may seem a little outlandish to most, but at least my rumored theory #1 makes sense.

Theory #1: Tobi is Uchiha Obito. This makes sense to me, so just give it a chance. Kishimoto is said to be greatly inspired by Dragonball Z. I read somewhere about a connection that somebody had concluded: In DBZ, the character known as Buu was killed, only to be reincarnated/reborn as Uub (or so it says, I don't know because I tend not to watch this show). If Kishimoto really is such a fan of DBZ, then the same idea could easily have been 'rubbed off' into Naruto somehow. Obito=Tobi. There are several theories as to how this could be true, and I happen to have a favorite one, even though there's not tons of information to support it.

Every character in Naruto has this great story surrounding them, some of which intertwine at one point or another. Also, there are TONS of conspiracies. What if Itachi and Obito were in on something together? Why is Tobi so anxious to join Akatsuki, where Itachi happens to be? Why is Tobi so nice? Why does Itachi leave so abruptly- is it really for the reasons we've heard over and over again, or could it be something more? A plan? An escape?

Theory #2: The Mysterious Leader of Akatsuki is Uzumaki Arashi. I've heard it all, and this one just seemed 100% ridiculous to me when I heard it. That is, until my friends and I started really talking about it. I have heard no supporting thesis for this one, but it would be kind of cool if it really were true.

killuahxh
06-24-2006, 09:51 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhahaha!!!!