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Linkaro
08-16-2006, 12:21 AM
When i was thinking of a fanfic to write, i was thinking their first kiss would be sumwhere beautiful in the middle of a forest sumwhere in front of a randome pond...lol imagine this (i'm putting it in a spoiler cuz it might get long lol:
It was night, the stars are out and theres a full moon. Naruto is in the forest thinking about stuff.
Sakura is walking around the village and she suddenly starts thinking about naruto, and asking her self why.. and blah blah she notices that she loves him.
She goes to find him and meets up with him in the woods. naruto, surprised, asks her if she wants to take a walk. He wanted to show her sumthing. she agreed. they kept walking till they came in front of a beautiful pond. surrounded by trees, and the light of the moon reflected on the water, making it look magical. they both sat in the grass and sakura was staring at the stars.
sakura: its beautiful.:wtf
Naruto out of nowhere says: not as beautiful as you..:tem
sakura just stares at him, blushing heavily. Did he just say she was beautiful?
Naruto turned to meet her gaze,now he started blushing:redface
Naruto got closer and pulled her into a hug.
Naruto: Sakura, you... mean more to me than anything, I... I love you.
Sakura's shocked face, turned into a soft smile. She returned the hug. Naruto, surprised by her action, let her go and looked at her. Sakura, who couldn't help but stare into his beautiful blue eyes, got closer and closer closing her eyes. Naruto also got closer, closing the gap between them. Their first kiss! yay!
Sakura then broke the kiss saying: I love you too:amuse
They stared at the stars, till sakura fell asleep in his arms.
Wow! didint think it would be this long... maybe i got carried away with the details and all but, this would be cute if it would happen. witch i doubt it will.
Or maybe they would kiss after sum fight where naruto saved her for like the 100th time.
thats what i think. i dunno 'bout everyone else ^_^
AHHHHH!!!!:omg SOOO EMBRESSING!!!!!! (sorry, I'm not custom to see or reading unexpected charaters kiss or those stuff.) But it is very good!!!
Fox-And-Flower
08-16-2006, 12:38 AM
AHHHHH!!!!:omg SOOO EMBRESSING!!!!!! (sorry, I'm not custom to see or reading unexpected charaters kiss or those stuff.) But it is very good!!!
lol srry:sweatdrop i realy like writting and reading fics so im just so used to this stuff lmao!:amuse i didint think it would bother anyone:laugh sorry again:sweatdrop
Linkaro
08-16-2006, 12:53 AM
lol srry:sweatdrop i realy like writting and reading fics so im just so used to this stuff lmao!:amuse i didint think it would bother anyone:laugh sorry again:sweatdrop
Nahh...it is not your fault. :)
I sometimes get embress with my own works. It just take time for me to get customized. It's good.smile-big
mairi-chan
08-16-2006, 01:49 AM
i wouldn't like it to be an "accident kiss"
i would like it if sakura told her feelings with one^^
like, she doesn't say anything, just a light kiss^^
Linkaro
08-16-2006, 02:00 AM
i wouldn't like it to be an "accident kiss"
i would like it if sakura told her feelings with one^^
like, she doesn't say anything, just a light kiss^^
hmmm....good point.
Fox-And-Flower
08-16-2006, 02:05 AM
i wouldn't like it to be an "accident kiss"
i would like it if sakura told her feelings with one^^
like, she doesn't say anything, just a light kiss^^
awww! i would love that:amuse
There tones of ways peoples could imagine their first kiss:oh its hard to predict what this couple will do lol:amuse
^_^ -- T_T -- O_O -- -_-'
WhiteCherryBlossom
08-16-2006, 02:07 AM
i wouldn't like it to be an "accident kiss"
i would like it if sakura told her feelings with one^^
like, she doesn't say anything, just a light kiss^^
Hmm, yeah something like that would be perfect, then their relationship could grow from there onward.
Fox-And-Flower
08-16-2006, 02:19 AM
im gonna go to bed now....
im probably gonna wake up, come back on and theres gonna be like 3 full pages of conversation more than when i left. LMAO that always happens:sweatdrop
ok..lol now that, ...was randome..:sweatdrop night!:laugh
mairi-chan
08-16-2006, 02:26 AM
haha. goodnight^^
yeah, that would be nice like um...
sakura:um, naruto...i want to tell you something..
naruto:eh? ah! sorry sakura, did i do soemthing wrong? please just don't hi-
sakura *kiss*
naruto: oh..ah...haha..um, well, i guess, see you tomorrow..?
sakura: okay^^
*naruto at his house*
naruto: WOOHOO!! YES!! I KNEW IT I KNEW IT!! IN YOUR FACE SASUKE, ROCK LEE!!
SAKURA IS MIIIINNNNEEE!!!
or soemthing like that^^
ArseneVA
08-16-2006, 03:35 AM
If you all want to debate, here's a good thread.
I'm pretty much done with this nonsense...
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?p=4899989&posted=1#post4899989
Kitee
08-16-2006, 03:36 AM
Anyone here beleive that NaruSaku would happen very soon?
It depends what you would mean by "NaruSaku." o_O; If you mean them dating, or Yamato confessing for Sakura, then I suppose you could say that the 'pairing' has already 'happened.'
To be honest though, the manga was never too focused on romance, and ight now with the Akatsuki, Sasuke ad Orochimaru... I don't see any point in switching the plot to just the romance to two people. x__x;
However, out of all the pairings, I do see NaruSaku being the most likely one. Just like how I stated above, I doubt the plot would take a a sudden swtich, just like how I see the main characters or one of the main characters being killed off.
lolita_poison15
08-16-2006, 03:41 AM
this fc is sooo cute naruto and sakura (^-^)...I WANNA join ?!..sign me in:wtf
ArseneVA
08-16-2006, 04:00 AM
It depends what you would mean by "NaruSaku." o_O; If you mean them dating, or Yamato confessing for Sakura, then I suppose you could say that the 'pairing' has already 'happened.'
To be honest though, the manga was never too focused on romance, and ight now with the Akatsuki, Sasuke ad Orochimaru... I don't see any point in switching the plot to just the romance to two people. x__x;
However, out of all the pairings, I do see NaruSaku being the most likely one. Just like how I stated above, I doubt the plot would take a a sudden swtich, just like how I see the main characters or one of the main characters being killed off.
Agreed.
Honestly, I care more about the plot and character development much more than I care about romance. I mean its a shounen manga people.
ArseneVA
08-16-2006, 04:04 AM
this fc is sooo cute naruto and sakura (^-^)...I WANNA join ?!..sign me in:wtf
Welcome to the club.
hokuten
08-16-2006, 10:12 AM
this fc is sooo cute naruto and sakura (^-^)...I WANNA join ?!..sign me in:wtf
Welcome to the club!
Fox-And-Flower
08-16-2006, 10:54 AM
sakura:um, naruto...i want to tell you something..
naruto:eh? ah! sorry sakura, did i do soemthing wrong? please just don't hi-
sakura *kiss*
naruto: oh..ah...haha..um, well, i guess, see you tomorrow..?
sakura: okay^^
*naruto at his house*
naruto: WOOHOO!! YES!! I KNEW IT I KNEW IT!! IN YOUR FACE SASUKE, ROCK LEE!!
SAKURA IS MIIIINNNNEEE!!!
or soemthing like that^^
LOL. That would be cute AND Hilarious:laugh
unown_skatr
08-16-2006, 10:55 AM
how r u today Foxii
ArseneVA
08-16-2006, 12:00 PM
LOL. That would be cute AND Hilarious:laugh
If Sakura actually kisses Naruto, I wouldn't be surprised if he bragged like there was no tommorow.
Linkaro
08-16-2006, 02:29 PM
haha. goodnight^^
yeah, that would be nice like um...
sakura:um, naruto...i want to tell you something..
naruto:eh? ah! sorry sakura, did i do soemthing wrong? please just don't hi-
sakura *kiss*
naruto: oh..ah...haha..um, well, i guess, see you tomorrow..?
sakura: okay^^
*naruto at his house*
naruto: WOOHOO!! YES!! I KNEW IT I KNEW IT!! IN YOUR FACE SASUKE, ROCK LEE!!
SAKURA IS MIIIINNNNEEE!!!
or soemthing like that^^
That's cute...and funny
Linkaro
08-16-2006, 02:31 PM
LOL. That would be cute AND Hilarious:laugh
btw, love your fanfics.
mairi-chan
08-16-2006, 02:42 PM
ah...i didn't know you'd guys actually like it^^
i'm happy^^
yeah, he would brag about it...a lot.^^
and then it'd lead to sakura hitting him...
again^^
they're like a bickering couple^^
the cutest one i've seen><
ArseneVA
08-16-2006, 03:11 PM
ah...i didn't know you'd guys actually like it^^
i'm happy^^
yeah, he would brag about it...a lot.^^
and then it'd lead to sakura hitting him...
again^^
they're like a bickering couple^^
the cutest one i've seen><
Not to mention one of the most entertaining.
mairi-chan
08-16-2006, 03:15 PM
haha, that is so true.
it's liek watching a movie...
they can go on for days and days...weeks and weeks...
and not get tired^^
see?
and it won't REALLY hurt naruto, since he heals easily.
see?
perfect couple^^
SunnyxShine
08-16-2006, 05:55 PM
Anyone here beleive that NaruSaku would happen very soon?
yep i belive :thumbs :occa :shakefist :shakefist :shakefist
Mystic-G
08-16-2006, 06:27 PM
Since we're all NaruSaku believers I have a question.... when do ya guys think the actual narusaku moment will happen when they both realize the love for each other.... this arc? next arc? next timeskip?
Linkaro
08-16-2006, 07:42 PM
Since we're all NaruSaku believers I have a question.... when do ya guys think the actual narusaku moment will happen when they both realize the love for each other.... this arc? next arc? next timeskip?
maybe.....few arc more but most likey this one.
Linkaro
08-16-2006, 07:44 PM
haha, that is so true.
it's liek watching a movie...
they can go on for days and days...weeks and weeks...
and not get tired^^
see?
and it won't REALLY hurt naruto, since he heals easily.
see?
perfect couple^^
or a runniging gag.
ArseneVA
08-16-2006, 07:51 PM
maybe.....few arc more but most likey this one.
Won't be for a while. Usually the canon couples in most manga do not become canon until very late in the series or near the end. This is done for character development.
Kishimoto will still add hints until the time is right. Nobody can deny their bond will just get stronger and stronger.
Still, to me I literally care more about the character development, plot, and the "ass-whoopings" more than the romance. I mean it's shounen manga people...
Naruto & Sakura should definitely be together. :naru2 + :shannaro
Linkaro
08-16-2006, 07:58 PM
Won't be for a while. Usually the canon couples in most manga do not become canon until very late in the series or near the end. This is done for character development.
Kishimoto will still add hints until the time is right. Nobody can deny their bond will just get stronger and stronger.
Still, to me I literally care more about the character development, plot, and the "ass-whoopings" more than the romance. I mean it's shounen manga people...
yea...but u can have romance in it.
Linkaro
08-16-2006, 08:06 PM
Naruto & Sakura should definitely be together. :naru2 + :shannaro
not the inner Sakura!!!!:cry spare me......
yeah. those two forever.
I also think it wont happen til near the end of the series. But we could still have hints and moments inbetween. :amuse
not the inner Sakura!!!!:cry spare me......
Sorry. Was the only Sakura smiley I could find. :notrust
Nothing to worry about. :P
If I may ask since you're new to the fc, what do you like about this pairing?
Linkaro
08-16-2006, 08:50 PM
I also think it wont happen til near the end of the series. But we could still have hints and moments inbetween. :amuse
By then, Naruto will die and have no kids.
By then, Naruto will die and have no kids.
Actually I think the end of the series is while they are still adults. Kishi said he wanted to go into the next generation. Meaning he wants them to have kids.
Linkaro
08-16-2006, 09:10 PM
Actually I think the end of the series is while they are still adults. Kishi said he wanted to go into the next generation. Meaning he wants them to have kids.
AT LAST!!! PROVE ON NEXT GEN IN ANIMINE!!! (beside DBZ)
Linkaro
08-16-2006, 09:47 PM
we need more ppl here and post....:notrust
Fox-And-Flower
08-16-2006, 10:19 PM
we need more ppl here and post....:notrust
oh, well im here. just got here and confused because i have nothing to talk about:oh
well im posting sumthing at least. but cant find a good topic:notrust
:oh O O O o o o . . .
yeah.... im not good at finding interesting topics lol. i usualy come up with sumthing people have asked before, or sumthing you guys already know lol.
I could just keep talking but im probably getting annoying lol so im just gonna say NARUSAKU ROX! since i have nothing better to say so...
NARUSAKU ROX! lol i am soo annoying:P :sweatdrop
Seto Kaiba
08-16-2006, 10:28 PM
If you want a topic how about this? (it's kinda lame though) Assuming NaruSaku does happen, Sakura becomes pregnant with Naruto's kid, how do you think she'll break the news to Naruto and how do you think Naruto would react?
Jo-nov
08-16-2006, 10:31 PM
Well, since we have alot of new members, here is a question:
What Naruto Anime/Manga scene(s) attracted you to NaruSaku?
SunnyxShine
08-16-2006, 11:03 PM
yea...but u can have romance in it.
yup
kishi did say he wants (and is gonna) add some romance in it :amuse
SunnyxShine
08-16-2006, 11:07 PM
Actually I think the end of the series is while they are still adults. Kishi said he wanted to go into the next generation. Meaning he wants them to have kids.
YAY!!!
i wonder what the kids would look like....
i imagine an older sister and a younger bro
sister with yellow hair and green eyes
bro with pink hair xD and blue eyes...
and they're both crazy :D
mairi-chan
08-16-2006, 11:09 PM
i think he'll be one of those guys who cries...
and then boasts it to everyone^^
um, let's see...
i'll make it so that skaura has been kind of off the last few days
naruto: sakura, is something bothering you?
sakura:eh?!
naruto:i don't know it just seems that you've become a little more...restless?
sakura: what do you mean by that?! *bonks him on the head*
naruto:ow, sakura! i didn't mean it that way!
sakura: well,um, naruto...i have things on my mind.
naruto: like what? sakuraaa tell me! come on!! tell me!!
sakura: naruto! stop being so annoying!! *bonks head again*
naruto: well, what is it then?
sakura: we...have...i child...*holds her stomach*
naruto: what? s-sakura, you mean, *holds her hand, that's on her stomach* here?
sakura: mhmm.
naruto: th-that's...great *cries* i'm so happy...WOOHOO!! SAKURA AND I HAVE A KID! SASUKEEEE!!!!!
*runs off to the village to tell everyone*
sakura: that idiot... *thinks* but he's my idiot^^
ah, maybe not the best scene, huh?
oh well. that's how i see it.
SunnyxShine
08-16-2006, 11:11 PM
i think he'll be one of those guys who cries...
and then boasts it to everyone^^
um, let's see...
i'll make it so that skaura has been kind of off the last few days
naruto: sakura, is something bothering you?
sakura:eh?!
naruto:i don't know it just seems that you've become a little more...restless?
sakura: what do you mean by that?! *bonks him on the head*
naruto:ow, sakura! i didn't mean it that way!
sakura: well,um, naruto...i have things on my mind.
naruto: like what? sakuraaa tell me! come on!! tell me!!
sakura: naruto! stop being so annoying!! *bonks head again*
naruto: well, what is it then?
sakura: we...have...i child...*holds her stomach*
naruto: what? s-sakura, you mean, *holds her hand, that's on her stomach* here?
sakura: mhmm.
naruto: th-that's...great *cries* i'm so happy...WOOHOO!! SAKURA AND I HAVE A KID! SASUKEEEE!!!!!
*runs off to the village to tell everyone*
sakura: that idiot... *thinks* but he's my idiot^^
ah, maybe not the best scene, huh?
oh well. that's how i see it.
LOL xD
haha that would be funny :D
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 12:22 AM
YAY!!!
i wonder what the kids would look like....
i imagine an older sister and a younger bro
sister with yellow hair and green eyes
bro with pink hair xD and blue eyes...
and they're both crazy :D
i drew a picture of what i thought his kids might look like, but instead of one being older than the other, i made them twins lol ^^
A boy and a girl, both having blond hair like dad, and green eyes like mom^^
the only difference is that the boy has all three whisker marks on both his cheeks while the girl only has 2 on her cheeks ^^
For my drawing i named the boy Ichiro(meaning first son) and the girl Akina(meaning spring flower)
They both fight with eachother constantly, but are very protective of one another, and support eachother:amuse They're both smart, but used their intelligence to pull of pranks when they were younger^^ they were and still are partners in crime lmao!
Thats how i picture them to look like. Once I get my scanner fixed ill put it up. ^_^lol:laugh
Again! i made a big ass description, when all i wanted to write was how i would picture them to look like! srry lol^^
ViolentlyHappy
08-17-2006, 12:25 AM
i drew a picture of what i thought his kids might look like, but instead of one being older than the other, i made them twins lol ^^
A boy and a girl, both having blond hair like dad, and green eyes like mom^^
the only difference is that the boy has all three whisker marks on both his cheeks while the girl only has 2 on her cheeks ^^
For my drawing i named the boy Ichiro(meaning first son) and the girl Akina(meaning spring flower)
They both fight with eachother constantly, but are very protective of one another, and support eachother:amuse They're both smart, but used their intelligence to pull of pranks when they were younger^^ they were and still are partners in crime lmao!
Thats how i picture them to look like. Once I get my scanner fixed ill put it up. ^_^lol:laugh
Again! i made a big ass description, when all i wanted to write was how i would picture them to look like! srry lol^^
well, let's see it then!
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:02 AM
i drew a picture of what i thought his kids might look like, but instead of one being older than the other, i made them twins lol ^^
A boy and a girl, both having blond hair like dad, and green eyes like mom^^
the only difference is that the boy has all three whisker marks on both his cheeks while the girl only has 2 on her cheeks ^^
For my drawing i named the boy Ichiro(meaning first son) and the girl Akina(meaning spring flower)
They both fight with eachother constantly, but are very protective of one another, and support eachother:amuse They're both smart, but used their intelligence to pull of pranks when they were younger^^ they were and still are partners in crime lmao!
Thats how i picture them to look like. Once I get my scanner fixed ill put it up. ^_^lol:laugh
Again! i made a big ass description, when all i wanted to write was how i would picture them to look like! srry lol^^
Hey! Didn't u wrote in your fan fic taht Naruto and Sakura slept?
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:07 AM
i drew a picture of what i thought his kids might look like, but instead of one being older than the other, i made them twins lol ^^
A boy and a girl, both having blond hair like dad, and green eyes like mom^^
the only difference is that the boy has all three whisker marks on both his cheeks while the girl only has 2 on her cheeks ^^
For my drawing i named the boy Ichiro(meaning first son) and the girl Akina(meaning spring flower)
They both fight with eachother constantly, but are very protective of one another, and support eachother:amuse They're both smart, but used their intelligence to pull of pranks when they were younger^^ they were and still are partners in crime lmao!
Thats how i picture them to look like. Once I get my scanner fixed ill put it up. ^_^lol:laugh
Again! i made a big ass description, when all i wanted to write was how i would picture them to look like! srry lol^^I imagethe kid to be blond hair and green eyes....except for the wiskers. That will onl be on the boy.
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:08 AM
Hey! Didn't u wrote in your fan fic taht Naruto and Sakura slept?
????? no... :huh ...
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:09 AM
well, let's see it then!
I'll show it once i finish coloring it in:amuse and once my stupid scanner is fixed:notrust
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:10 AM
????? no... :huh
so some other guy that wrote "Pink destiny"?
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:12 AM
????? no... :huh ... i said sakura fell asleep in his arms, if thats what u mean:oh
Oh! *reread* Sorry. I was tried.
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 02:13 AM
aah!
i can't wait to see><
i imagine they'll be so cute!!
haha, and so many traits from their parents^^
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:15 AM
so some other guy that wrote "Pink destiny"?
lol yes!:laugh I never said i made that fanfic, i was just putting it up cuz it was so awesome:P
lol srry. i dont like taking credit for other pplz stuff:P so yeah... i didint make it:P
no wonder i didint know what u were saying lol. but thats ok:amuse
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:16 AM
aah!
i can't wait to see><
i imagine they'll be so cute!!
haha, and so many traits from their parents^^
eyes, hair, wiskers, wisdom, goofy, tetermined, storng, inner child, corage, certarn disgradfor the rules...yeah. I see what u mean.
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:17 AM
Oh! *reread* Sorry. I was tried.
ahh i'm confusing myself with that little scene i wrote on one of my posts lol srry.:sweatdrop
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:18 AM
lol yes!:laugh I never said i made that fanfic, i was just putting it up cuz it was so awesome:P
lol srry. i dont like taking credit for other pplz stuff:P so yeah... i didint make it:P
no wonder i didint know what u were saying lol. but thats ok:amuse
that ok....smile-big
That story is getting good but I found the Naruto and Sakura on bed too embressing so I skip that part.
ahh i'm confusing myself with that little scene i wrote on one of my posts lol srry
f/g about it. It's my fault.
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 02:19 AM
ah...you guys are so amusing^^
haha.
it's like twists and turns.
you keep saying something, but then realize you're wrong.
you guys are so funny^
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:20 AM
I'm gonna go before i kill sumone with my confusion:notrust
hehe, i think i'm a weeeeee bit tired:sweatdrop
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:21 AM
that ok....smile-big
That story is getting good but I found the Naruto and Sakura on bed too embressing so I skip that part.
f/g about it. It's my fault.
oh dont worry i know what u mean:P ...trust me:notrust :oh
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:22 AM
ah...you guys are so amusing^^
haha.
it's like twists and turns.
you keep saying something, but then realize you're wrong.
you guys are so funny^
thanks for the support. I just came back from collage.
I'm gonna go before i kill sumone with my confusion:notrust
hehe, i think i'm a weeeeee bit tired:sweatdrop
um... *hides behied Mairi*
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 02:23 AM
haha, Linkaro, don't worry.
i bet a lot of fans skip scenes like that^^
i know i do.
though there's nothing wrong with those scenes...
for people who like them, i guess...^^
you guys are so cute!!
it's funny just reading conversations with you guys^^
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:24 AM
ah...you guys are so amusing^^
haha.
it's like twists and turns.
you keep saying something, but then realize you're wrong.
you guys are so funny^
You guys are fun to be around too!:amuse
I realy feel that i can be random and confused with you guys without making myself look stupid:amuse :laugh lol jk jk u guys are just fun and cool to talk with:amuse ...i might stay a lil longer:nod
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 02:25 AM
ahaha.
i'm glad you feel that way.
isn't that what friends are for?
to be able to mess up but still feel comfortable around^^
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:26 AM
sorry if i scared you Linkaro:amuse... am I that weird?:sweatdrop
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:26 AM
haha, Linkaro, don't worry.
i bet a lot of fans skip scenes like that^^
i know i do.
though there's nothing wrong with those scenes...
for people who like them, i guess...^^
you guys are so cute!!
it's funny just reading conversations with you guys^^
I know....
um...I'm guessing that F-and-F is a girl? 'cause if not, then this is two guys here...
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:27 AM
ahaha.
i'm glad you feel that way.
isn't that what friends are for?
to be able to mess up but still feel comfortable around^^
*Big smile* ^_^:nod
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:28 AM
sorry if i scared you Linkaro:amuse... am I that weird?:sweatdrop
no...:sweatdrop just a bit...scrace if u'll kill someone.
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:28 AM
I know....
um...I'm guessing that F-and-F is a girl? 'cause if not, then this is two guys here...
Yes, i am a Fan Girl:amuse Lol
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 02:30 AM
kyaaa!! this conversation is making my smile really big!!!
ah, Fox-And-Flower, you're 14?
me too!!
haha.
oh well, guys can be cute too^^
like yuki from fruits basket!!
and, um, it's a compliment, just to tell you^^
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:30 AM
Yes, i am a Fan Girl:amuse Lol
AHHHH!!!!! I MISTAKEN YOUR AVATAR FOR A GUY!!!!! IT'S A GIRL!!!!:blink
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:31 AM
ok calm down it was a mistake....:sweatdrop
i'm a girl but on forums and chats, it doesint show very much. i can easily be mistaken for a guy lmao
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:32 AM
kyaaa!! this conversation is making my smile really big!!!
ah, Fox-And-Flower, you're 14?
me too!!
haha.
oh well, guys can be cute too^^
like yuki from fruits basket!!
and, um, it's a compliment, just to tell you^^
:cry
I'm joking with preteen...
I'm 16.
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:33 AM
ok calm down it was a mistake....:sweatdrop
srry...:P
that green bar under our avatar. what does it means?
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 02:36 AM
16? that's fine^^
i don't think age really matters...
it just matters if you get along, yes?
haha, you guys are too funny^^
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:36 AM
srry...:P
that green bar under our avatar. what does it means?
you know what i realy dont know:oh ... i'm kinda new and never raly bothered to ask myself what it was for, or ask anyone else lmao
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:38 AM
16? that's fine^^
i don't think age really matters...
it just matters if you get along, yes?
haha, you guys are too funny^^
that's kewl...
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 02:38 AM
um, you mean the little green boxes?
those are reputation points^^
if you're really nice, you'll get a lot of them from people who like you and they give you them^^
and you get red ones if you're bad.
the little white scale at the bottom, if you click it, you can give a person a reputation point!!
the more green, the better!!^^
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:40 AM
um, you mean the little green boxes?
those are reputation points^^
if you're really nice, you'll get a lot of them from people who like you and they give you them^^
and you get red ones if you're bad.
the little white scale at the bottom, if you click it, you can give a person a reputation point!!
the more green, the better!!^^
sweeeeeeeet:amuse lol thanx for explaining lol:laugh
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:41 AM
um, you mean the little green boxes?
those are reputation points^^
if you're really nice, you'll get a lot of them from people who like you and they give you them^^
and you get red ones if you're bad.
the little white scale at the bottom, if you click it, you can give a person a reputation point!!
the more green, the better!!^^
so I am...sorta hated or not that well nice?
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 02:44 AM
eh?
well, no, not exaclty^^
i just looked up the official reasons, which were a little confusing^^
i think it takes time?
i have no clue.
um, you can type in "reputation points" at the FAQ and find out what they are^^
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:46 AM
so I am...sorta hated or not that well nice?
what are you talking about! Your not hated!:nod We dont want you to feel hated! we want you to feel happy! Be happy!:laugh Dont think your hated:amuse :nod
its just maybe sumtimes people dont think about giving you points cuz they forget or just too lazy to do it:laugh
i think it takes time?
i have no clue
... or that lol
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:48 AM
eh?
well, no, not exaclty^^
i just looked up the official reasons, which were a little confusing^^
i think it takes time?
i have no clue.
um, you can type in "reputation points" at the FAQ and find out what they are^^
ok...smile-big
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 02:49 AM
I'm gonna go work on my pictures so i can finish them, and i'm tired too *yawn*
talk to you guys sumtime tomorow *waves*
Jo-nov
08-17-2006, 02:49 AM
you know what i realy dont know:oh ... i'm kinda new and never raly bothered to ask myself what it was for, or ask anyone else lmao
It is your reputation bar, which is part of a system designed to rate the posts and actions of you and other members. You can use it to identify the 'bad' members from the 'good' members (in theory, anyway.) :amuse
All newbies begin with one green bar, but it slowly goes up (or change red and grow) as more people rep you. You can click on User CP to check on your reputation points and comments.
You can check the FAQ for more information.
EDIT: I'm too slow. Someone already explained it. :sweatdrop
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:50 AM
what are you talking about! Your not hated!:nod We dont want you to feel hated! we want you to feel happy! Be happy!:laugh Dont think your hated:amuse :nod
its just maybe sumtimes people dont think about giving you points cuz they forget or just too lazy to do it:laugh
... or that lol
meh...ok
I want to start a fan fic. "The Naruto Sotry."
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:52 AM
It is your reputation bar, which is part of a system designed to rate the posts and actions of you and other members. You can use it to identify the 'bad' members from the 'good' members (in theory, anyway.) :amuse
All newbies begin with one green bar, but it slowly goes up (or change red and grow) as more people rep you. You can click on User CP to check on your reputation points and comments.
You can check the FAQ for more information.
I should be less annoy.
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 02:56 AM
annoy?
you think you're annoying?!
eh?
no no!! you're a great friend!!^^
you really are!!
a lot of people just forget to give good members reputation points^^
please don't feel discouraged><
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:57 AM
annoy?
you think you're annoying?!
eh?
no no!! you're a great friend!!^^
you really are!!
a lot of people just forget to give good members reputation points^^
please don't feel discouraged><
smile-big thanks.
I was alway discoruge in real life.
Jo-nov
08-17-2006, 02:57 AM
I should be less annoy.
You're cool, but you should make longer posts with more complete sentences. :amuse
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 02:59 AM
You're cool, but you should make longer posts with more complete sentences. :amuse
I see I I can do that Jo-nov-sensei.
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 03:04 AM
aww, that's so depressing.
well, i won't ever discourage you, okay?^^
ah! Jo-nov, you really are something^^
so informative^^
Jo-nov
08-17-2006, 03:18 AM
I see I I can do that Jo-nov-sensei.
:thumbs
Seriously, even I'm still new compared to most of the other members, so I can relate to you. I'm glad to see that you, mairi-chan and others are keeping this thread busy.
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 03:25 AM
...ahahaha...
you're so entertaining...
just...the way you said that..
it really lifted my spirits somehow.
wow!!
i think i should go somewhere other than the fanclubs now...
Kitee
08-17-2006, 11:30 AM
This is a bit out of place, but...
Mizura had quite a good post with some of her NaruSaku reasonings from the manga. ^^ Wouldn't it be nice if a link to it was added on the front page?
mrpresidenthehe
08-17-2006, 12:23 PM
FF.net Heaven & Earth C2 member list is at 265, just 6 members away from the Yaoi C2, WHY. If we can surpass WHY, we'll move up to no. 2 on the "C2s with the most members list"!!
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 01:12 PM
FF.net Heaven & Earth C2 member list is at 265, just 6 members away from the Yaoi C2, WHY. If we can surpass WHY, we'll move up to no. 2 on the "C2s with the most members list"!!
then advertise to ppl.
"Only you can make this happen." smile-big
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 01:12 PM
Haha, not many people on, lol Its more active during the night:amuse
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 01:19 PM
Haha, not many people on, lol Its more active during the night:amuse
:oh I know...
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 03:35 PM
wow!!
i didn't say this before, but Fox-And-Flower, i really love your avatar!!
so cute!!!><
yeah, at night, that's when everyone's at home.
unless you're going somewhere...i guess....
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 06:43 PM
wow!!
i didn't say this before, but Fox-And-Flower, i really love your avatar!!
so cute!!!><
cute?:huh my friends thought it was freaky:P but i totaly agree with ya:amuse
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 07:34 PM
cute?:huh my friends thought it was freaky:P but i totaly agree with ya:amuse
i like it :amuse
*sigh* nobody is here when im on.....gaaa!!!
T.T . . . . . . . .
ah well....
ooo you drew pics of the kids too???
lol twins so cute!!
yea..i drew pics too...and i colored!! yay!! i like to color.... :)
buh my scanner is too confusing....i dont know how to work it *sigh*
*sigh*
yup i imagined them being pranksters too :D
lol and they end up in the same team with ino and sai's kid who is a girl with long black hair and blue eyes...and she always wears black >.< i imagine too much buh yea....
lol thats not gonna happen in the manga xD
anyways.....
ooo some of you pplz are 14 too???
wow...i thought most of you pplz mite be 20 and stuff...or 16 and older(i bet most of you are :D )
gaaa...im trying to write longer posts cuz i usually rite them really short....but . . . smile-big ah well thats it...i cant write anymore *sigh*
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 07:43 PM
i like it :amuse
*sigh* nobody is here when im on.....gaaa!!!
T.T . . . . . . . .
ah well....
ooo you drew pics of the kids too???
lol twins so cute!!
yea..i drew pics too...and i colored!! yay!! i like to color.... :)
buh my scanner is too confusing....i dont know how to work it *sigh*
*sigh*
yup i imagined them being pranksters too :D
lol and they end up in the same team with ino and sai's kid who is a girl with long black hair and blue eyes...and she always wears black >.< i imagine too much buh yea....
lol thats not gonna happen in the manga xD
anyways.....
ooo some of you pplz are 14 too???
wow...i thought most of you pplz mite be 20 and stuff...or 16 and older(i bet most of you are :D )
gaaa...im trying to write longer posts cuz i usually rite them really short....but . . . smile-big ah well thats it...i cant write anymore *sigh*
and I'm tried...
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 08:24 PM
me too...*sigh*
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 08:28 PM
haha^^
well, usually, i don't think most people hear write long posts, but when people are heated in a discussion, they can't stop^^
and, when that happens, you usually write something really long.
and when you finish it, you'll be proud of yourself^^
so, it's better, to me, i think, to write only what you need to.
and then when you write a really good, and long one then it stands out more^^
does...that make any sense at all?
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 08:28 PM
WE NEED MORE PPL!!!!!
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 08:29 PM
haha^^
well, usually, i don't think most people hear write long posts, but when people are heated in a discussion, they can't stop^^
and, when that happens, you usually write something really long.
and when you finish it, you'll be proud of yourself^^
so, it's better, to me, i think, to write only what you need to.
and then when you write a really good, and long one then it stands out more^^
does...that make any sense at all?
um....yea...*3 sec. pass* uh...what?
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 08:30 PM
WE NEED MORE PPL!!!!!
yes we do...:(
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 08:33 PM
yes we do...:(
So let ad the fc.
Remember:
Smoky: "Only you can get the NaruSaku fc big."
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 08:34 PM
ah, well, i think it's just that not everyone is on right now...
oh, sorry that it didn't make sense...
um, hm...
i'll try to explain later...i guess^^
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 08:36 PM
ah, well, i think it's just that not everyone is on right now...
oh, sorry that it didn't make sense...
um, hm...
i'll try to explain later...i guess^^
it does...
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 08:42 PM
yay :D sakunaru
mairi-chan
08-17-2006, 08:44 PM
ahaha!
yeah, we should talk about sakunaru, huh?^^
um, hm...a topic!!
let's try to think of their wedding!!^^
u, think of a funny scene that would happen...
Linkaro
08-17-2006, 08:52 PM
ahaha!
yeah, we should talk about sakunaru, huh?^^
um, hm...a topic!!
let's try to think of their wedding!!^^
u, think of a funny scene that would happen...
try that one "Love hina" sence at the end where they two get marry and the guy acentdeny step on that big dress and rip it. Then Hina chase him.
We should put that with Naruto and Sakura wedding.
Mystic-G
08-17-2006, 09:00 PM
it'd be nice if all the realistic pairings that we know of had their weddings one after the other.....
for some reason I believe the narusaku moment is going to be Naruto either saving Sakura or being seriously injured then Sakura is going to break into tears and hug him crying sayshe loves him. ^_~ That'd be nice....
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 09:01 PM
try that one "Love hina" sence at the end where they two get marry and the guy acentdeny step on that big dress and rip it. Then Hina chase him.
We should put that with Naruto and Sakura wedding.
LOL that would be funny xD
Wedding event?
How about something like one of the guests at the wedding asks what they're gonna do next and Naruto and Sakura start blushing. :P
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 09:40 PM
its embarrassing for me to imagine their wedding lol >.<
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 09:57 PM
WAAAH!!! OMG!!! I JUST READ TODAY'S CHAPTER!!
AND AND AND OMG!!
OMG!!!
sakura is looking at the picture of team 7 (btw her room looks different....does she live alone now? or is the arrangement different?) and then she cries!!! GAAA!!! does she still like sasuke??? why is she crying?? NOOO!!!! she cries!!! NOO!!!! well....that might not be why shes crying but maybe she still likes him and...and...and OMG NO!!! GAAA!!!! shes crying when she looks at the picture....maybe she missed sasuke...and yea its normal for her to cry cuz she misses him...buh...buh.....GAAAAAA!!!! no she has to give up on the guy who mistreated her and start liking to guy who always risked his life to save her....:cry
i dont know maybe im misunderstanding buh...buh....:(
*sigh*
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 09:59 PM
i could imagine sumthing like, Naruto forgot sumthing important, like lets say the ring, and is late for the wedding. everyone is like waiting, then naruto walks in, acting all calm and stuff, then trips over sumthing and makes a complete fool of himself. i know that was mean but i cant realy imagine anything realy funny at a wedding. i'm just trying to write sumthing cuz i feel left out lol But i'm pretty sure that, if its naruto and Sakura's wedding, sumthing will defenitly happen. If nothing does I would be surprised lol
their just a cute goofy couple ^^ cute but goofy:laugh
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 10:01 PM
WAAAH!!! OMG!!! I JUST READ TODAY'S CHAPTER!!
AND AND AND OMG!!
OMG!!!
sakura is looking at the picture of team 7 (btw her room looks different....does she live alone now? or is the arrangement different?) and then she cries!!! GAAA!!! does she still like sasuke??? why is she crying?? NOOO!!!! she cries!!! NOO!!!! well....that might not be why shes crying but maybe she still likes him and...and...and OMG NO!!! GAAA!!!! shes crying when she looks at the picture....maybe she missed sasuke...and yea its normal for her to cry cuz she misses him...buh...buh.....GAAAAAA!!!! no she has to give up on the guy who mistreated her and start liking to guy who always risked his life to save her....:cry
i dont know maybe im misunderstanding buh...buh....:(
*sigh*
whoa whoa calm down lol:laugh Don't worry... it'l be ok!. I'm reading it right now.
Razgriez
08-17-2006, 10:01 PM
WAAAH!!! OMG!!! I JUST READ TODAY'S CHAPTER!!
AND AND AND OMG!!
OMG!!!
sakura is looking at the picture of team 7 (btw her room looks different....does she live alone now? or is the arrangement different?) and then she cries!!! GAAA!!! does she still like sasuke??? why is she crying?? NOOO!!!! she cries!!! NOO!!!! well....that might not be why shes crying but maybe she still likes him and...and...and OMG NO!!! GAAA!!!! shes crying when she looks at the picture....maybe she missed sasuke...and yea its normal for her to cry cuz she misses him...buh...buh.....GAAAAAA!!!! no she has to give up on the guy who mistreated her and start liking to guy who always risked his life to save her....:cry
i dont know maybe im misunderstanding buh...buh....:(
*sigh*
I wouldnt deny it.
ArseneVA
08-17-2006, 10:05 PM
Shriner made a good post on H&E about Ch. 319:
Anyway, the poster is reading more into the moment than they should. This does not make it canon. First, we already knew Sakura still cared for him. Second, the picture is of Team 7, not Sasuke. I'm not going to say it has no bearing on SasuSaku because I don't think that's true, but the fact that the picture contains all of Team 7 makes its meaning a lot more murky. She could just as easily be reminising about the"good old days" when they were still a team and wishing it could be was just as before. The four of them doing missions together as a team. There is not any solid evidence that she is focusing specifically on Sasuke to the exclusion of all other things. I'd be a tad more receptive of the claim had she said "Sasuke" (like Naruto did) or if the picture had been only of him. It's certainly far removed from a open declaration of love. Given what just happened, its probably a combination of longing about what used to for Team 7 as a whole and being upset about Sasuke's current course of actions. Especially when compared to Naruto's reminising which does appear to be more focused on Sasuke. Nonetheless, it's a vast overstatement to say this is solid proof she is in love (as opposed to simply loving him) with him and that makes SasuSaku canon
I completely disagree with the moon argument. I have my doubts that its a reference to 181. I suspect its intent is to increase the overall dramatic effect as I have seen this type of scene occur "under the moon" in various animes. Second, Naruto is looking to the same sky and comments about a shooting star. This combination makes me believe it's intended to increase the drama of the scene itself as opposed to any reference to previous chapters.
Razgriez
08-17-2006, 10:10 PM
Yeah Shriner is right.
I need to catch up on those chapters too. ill do it after Im finished with Fate/Stay Night. I recommend it, its good!
Fox-And-Flower
08-17-2006, 10:15 PM
Shriner has a good point ^^
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 10:18 PM
uh i didnt really understand what shriner was saying.....
is he/she saying that whatever happened in the chapter means that sakura still likes sasuke??? gaaaa...im confused.....*sigh* :(
ArseneVA
08-17-2006, 10:31 PM
uh i didnt really understand what shriner was saying.....
is he/she saying that whatever happened in the chapter means that sakura still likes sasuke??? gaaaa...im confused.....*sigh* :(
She's saying she still cares about him, but is not in love with him.
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 10:33 PM
She's saying she still cares about him, but is not in love with him.
OOO THANK YOU!!! :amuse
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 10:37 PM
ah....lets start a topic....
um...i cant think of any....
ooo lets talk about what might be in the next chapter...
maybe not....
*sigh* do you pplz have anything to talk about?:nod
btw will sakura ever train???
NaruSaku4Life
08-17-2006, 10:41 PM
I hope she does train. She need to help Naruto in the future mission.
ArseneVA
08-17-2006, 10:43 PM
Regarding Ch. 319:
I keep seeing posts on those 2 pages but at the bottom of the second page it looks like her tear becomes a shooting star. That brings Naruto into it almost as if they are in touch with each others feelings. So it all boils down to what you want to see happen.
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 10:44 PM
i wonder how shes gonna train....
cuz after they met sasuke she said that they are gonna get stronger
and that shes gonna get stronger with naruto....
oooo i also wonder what element is sakura....:)
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 10:48 PM
Regarding Ch. 319:
I keep seeing posts on those 2 pages but at the bottom of the second page it looks like her tear becomes a shooting star. That brings Naruto into it almost as if they are in touch with each others feelings. So it all boils down to what you want to see happen.
ooo it might mean something like when cries she wishes that sasuke comes back and then it turns into a shooting star and naruto sees it and hes gonna make that wish come true....i cant explain it very well....*sigh*
well thats what i think :laugh
Razgriez
08-17-2006, 11:08 PM
uh i didnt really understand what shriner was saying.....
is he/she saying that whatever happened in the chapter means that sakura still likes sasuke??? gaaaa...im confused.....*sigh* :(
Hes saying that just because she was looking at a Team 7 picture doesnt mean she was focusing only on Sasuke.
It was more likely she was thinking about the past and the good old days about team 7.
If it was focusing on Sasuke she probably would of muttered "Sasuke" or zooming on Sasuke's face to make it far more clear that she was thinking about Sasuke.
SunnyxShine
08-17-2006, 11:10 PM
thank you again to another person buh i get it now :D
edit: *sigh* no one is here.....its been so long...no new posts...*sigh*:cry
ArseneVA
08-18-2006, 12:13 AM
Hes saying that just because she was looking at a Team 7 picture doesnt mean she was focusing only on Sasuke.
It was more likely she was thinking about the past and the good old days about team 7.
If it was focusing on Sasuke she probably would of muttered "Sasuke" or zooming on Sasuke's face to make it far more clear that she was thinking about Sasuke.
Well put, Razgriez. By the way, do you play Ace Combat: The Unsung War? The squadron you are in get the nickname "Demon's of Razgriez" or something like that.
ViolentlyHappy
08-18-2006, 12:14 AM
*pops head in room* i'm here sunny-chan! :glomp
Krimson
08-18-2006, 12:25 AM
Hmm...interesting new chapter. Anyone notice Kishi has put a lot of "mystery" scenes in the chapters lately? First we had Hidan's weird power, then Asuma's origin, then the king, and now the Sakura thing. It's kinda pissing me off, since he doesn't tell us the full meaning of any of those things. I think he enjoys torturing us with these things. :notrust
SunnyxShine
08-18-2006, 12:26 AM
*pops head in room* i'm here sunny-chan! :glomp
yay!!! :laugh
SunnyxShine
08-18-2006, 12:28 AM
Hmm...interesting new chapter. Anyone notice Kishi has put a lot of "mystery" scenes in the chapters lately? First we had Hidan's weird power, then Asuma's origin, then the king, and now the Sakura thing. It's kinda pissing me off, since he doesn't tell us the full meaning of any of those things. I think he enjoys torturing us with these things. :notrust
Anyways, maybe I downloaded a wrong version or something, but I thought Sakura only got 1 page? And I didn't see a picture either...well at least I don't think it's a picture; it looks more like a flashback since it's not the usual picture.
a page is missing in the narutofan one...
google narutomangareturns and youll the missing page :laugh
Krimson
08-18-2006, 12:30 AM
a page is missing in the narutofan one...
google narutomangareturns and youll the missing page :laugh
Yea, I noticed. :doh The raw has the page though. :amuse
SunnyxShine
08-18-2006, 12:45 AM
. . . now no one is writing anything agian....
-_-''
Krimson
08-18-2006, 12:59 AM
. . . now no one is writing anything agian....
-_-''
Alright, then I'll write something. :amuse
It looks like Kishi is beginning to add romance (like he promised). I think he's taking a big gamble by doing so. Depending on how he writes it, it might just ruin the story for a lot of people. :doh Right now, it looks like he's leaning towards the "tragic" side of the love spectrum... And usually, tragic=sappy. One or two small sappy scenes will be nice, but I hope Kishi doesn't overdo it (like he's overdoing the training...shoulda just timeskipped). Anyways, I'm hoping for a happy ending with all loose ends tied up. :nod
Okay there, random stuff that I thought about. :P
SunnyxShine
08-18-2006, 01:06 AM
Alright, then I'll write something. :amuse
It looks like Kishi is beginning to add romance (like he promised). I think he's taking a big gamble by doing so. Depending on how he writes it, it might just ruin the story for a lot of people. :doh Right now, it looks like he's leaning towards the "tragic" side of the love spectrum... And usually, tragic=sappy. One or two small sappy scenes will be nice, but I hope Kishi doesn't overdo it (like he's overdoing the training...shoulda just timeskipped). Anyways, I'm hoping for a happy ending with all loose ends tied up. :nod
Okay there, random stuff that I thought about. :P
ooo its a love triangle :D
buh that would be hard....
naruto risks his life to save sakura and make her happy
sakura keeps telling sasuke she loves him and worries about him throughout part 1....its a waste
sasuke.....i dont really know hes starting to like his teammates buh then tries to kill naruto and says the stupid thank you to sakura before he leaves...
and hinata stalks naruto her whole life and stares at him 24/7 lol
wow hinata would die if naruto and sakura got together...
LOL
buh i feel bad for her...
and sasuke..i hate him he can die all alone in that snakes body...
they deserve each other...
and i dont think he will ever come to his senses...hes just gonna die evil
i think they shoud give up searching for him...
*sigh*
Fox-And-Flower
08-18-2006, 01:50 AM
ooo its a love triangle :D
buh that would be hard....
naruto risks his life to save sakura and make her happy
sakura keeps telling sasuke she loves him and worries about him throughout part 1....its a waste
sasuke.....i dont really know hes starting to like his teammates buh then tries to kill naruto and says the stupid thank you to sakura before he leaves...
and sasuke..i hate him he can die all alone in that snakes body...
they deserve each other...
and i dont think he will ever come to his senses...hes just gonna die evil
i think they shoud give up searching for him...
*sigh*
lol... ouch. harsh lmao NOT.
ok! i'm here to be random! if nobody is writting sumbody give me sumthing to write about and i'll write as much as i can!:laugh I am in a VERY hyper mood right now:party :dance :wtf
Linkaro
08-18-2006, 02:03 AM
lol... ouch. harsh lmao NOT.
ok! i'm here to be random! if nobody is writting sumbody give me sumthing to write about and i'll write as much as i can!:laugh I am in a VERY hyper mood right now:party :dance :wtf
if u say so...
"PARTY!!!! ICE CREAM PARTY!!!!"
Fox-And-Flower
08-18-2006, 02:18 AM
if u say so...
"PARTY!!!! ICE CREAM PARTY!!!!"
AHHHH!!!! I LOVE ICE CREAM!:wtf DO YOU LOVE ICE CREAM?! I LOVE IT ALOT!
I LIKE CHOCOLATE TOO!:laugh AND M&M's! I LIKE ICE CREAM SPRINKLED IN NARUSAKU-NESS! LMAO!
ok...
I g2g to bed cuz i know i'm not feeling well lol:P bye!
ArseneVA
08-18-2006, 02:23 AM
You like Ice Cream
You like Ice Cream
You will buy Ice Cream
Life is meaningless, without Ice Cream.
Linkaro
08-18-2006, 02:39 AM
You like Ice Cream
You like Ice Cream
You will buy Ice Cream
Life is meaningless, without Ice Cream.
YAYYYYY...wait...are we talking about Sakura/Naruto's wedding....
It will be a downfall for us if they don't end up together.
Coconut
08-18-2006, 03:15 AM
There is so little evidence to support any theory about 319. Sakura's crying and it could be for so many reasons other than Sasuke..
WhiteCherryBlossom
08-18-2006, 03:36 AM
There is so little evidence to support any theory about 319. Sakura's crying and it could be for so many reasons other than Sasuke..
True, could be she misses the good old days. Where they were young, and prancy doing all sorts of D-Rank missions. Could be about how she was..shall we say, "useless" back then? Many options other than Sasuke...maybe if we saw it animated it would make more sense, but no the fillers are here. Oh well!
Coconut
08-18-2006, 04:13 AM
Fillers are soon to be over! Yay
Kitee
08-18-2006, 04:17 AM
Fillers are soon to be over! Yay
Really? I heard from Leafninja.com that episodes 198-201 are all fillers.
Let's just hope that they will end sometime in this lifetime. That way, we wouldn't be so dissappointed if it doesn't come out until a decade later!
Coconut
08-18-2006, 04:21 AM
So close yet so far.. just a few more episodes..Yeah after fillers it's Kakashi Gaiden for 3-4 episodes then it's after the time-skip, Yay! Don't quote me on my accuracy because I could be absolutely wrong. =]
WhiteCherryBlossom
08-18-2006, 05:05 AM
Yeah, seeing 197's beginning and all, that message about the fillers being over soon, I hope it's true, but even now, it's like I can't trust anyone on it, except leafninja, they don't put up the titles until they are confirmed ^^
Fox-And-Flower
08-18-2006, 11:51 AM
Yeah, seeing 197's beginning and all, that message about the fillers being over soon, I hope it's true, but even now, it's like I can't trust anyone on it, except leafninja, they don't put up the titles until they are confirmed ^^
True. i'm actualy a bit anxious to see 198 lol:amuse i dunno it just seems interesting and all lol. you know, ANBU going to Naruto for answers lmao:laugh
SunnyxShine
08-18-2006, 12:32 PM
True. i'm actualy a bit anxious to see 198 lol:amuse i dunno it just seems interesting and all lol. you know, ANBU going to Naruto for answers lmao:laugh
lol yea they're gonna ask him questions about the old guy :D
and naruto didnt even know it was him :P
Chibi-Usa
08-18-2006, 01:43 PM
I must join this club, because I strongly support this couple.
SunnyxShine
08-18-2006, 01:46 PM
I must join this club, because I strongly support this couple.
hello :D OOO FURUBA!!! <333 :laugh
Jo-nov
08-18-2006, 05:20 PM
Regarding Ch. 319:
I keep seeing posts on those 2 pages but at the bottom of the second page it looks like her tear becomes a shooting star. That brings Naruto into it almost as if they are in touch with each others feelings. So it all boils down to what you want to see happen.
Nice find. :) I didn't think about the relation of the falling tear to the shooting star. I did sense an indirect moment with Naruto and Sakura, though.
hokuten
08-18-2006, 06:51 PM
I must join this club, because I strongly support this couple.
Welcome to the club!
ArseneVA
08-18-2006, 09:57 PM
Shriner ellaborated on her statement regarding Ch. 319 (last page):
True Sasuke's impact is important but you are not distinguishing it as a seperate focus outside the context of Team 7. Here are two ways to see it:
(1) She could be thinking something along the lines of "Sasuke, please come back to me" or something of that nature
and
(2) She could thinking, "please, come back so we can be as we were, so we can be whole" or something of that nature i.e. wishing they could be Team 7 as they were before he left.
Each focuses on Sasuke's role and his absence, but the two have very different meanings. The first would clearly implies she is in love with him. In the second, its impossible to tell whether it amounts to simple friendship, close friendship, or being in love. Any of those could exist. As Nick said, its does nothing to distinguish whether she just loves/cares for him or is in love with him.
After thinking about it some more, I admit that I was wrong in placing more emphasis on the Team 7 aspect than Sasuk'se current situation. I should have placed more emphasis on the latter. But even if this is correct, its does not make the first statement true, as Naruto appears to be doing that exact same thing Sakura is. In addition, the two concepts are not mutually exclusive. There does appear to be a clear Team 7 aspect to that entire scene. Of course, its Sasuke absence and role within Team 7, but this is quite different than claiming she is love with Sasuke or that this makes this canon (which is what my counter argument was aimed at refuting). Nothing suggests she is thinking of Sasuke exclusively nor of wanting him back so she can be with him romantically.
Thus, in sum, I meant to say this: That she was thinking about Sasuke in the context of Team 7 (i.e. number 2 as opposed to number 1) and was reflecting on his current choice of actions and what he has become in three years time. I should have placed more emphasis on the latter, and to that extent my previous post is wrong.
I think Nick said it best on the SasuSaku argument: This scene does not tell us anything we did not already know. We have know since 246 that she cares for him. How far that goes is not clear (nor is it with Naruto) and this scene does not do a whole to to resolve this. However, its reptition of that caring does have meaning.
I don't think I ever meant to imply that she was thinking about everyone without any special emphasis on Sasuke, though I do admit to overemphasizing Team 7. As you said he is the missing piece, so it would be his role and absence within Team 7 with a specific emphasis on what happened about ten chapters ago. I agree that from what we see, its pretty clear that is going on. My dispute with the above quote is the context and the nature of which he is being thought.
The scene at the bottom of the second page it looks like her tear becomes a shooting star. That brings Naruto into it almost as if they are in touch with each others feelings. So it all boils down to what you want to see happens. To me, this further proves Statement 2 rather than Statement 1 IMO.
We have no actual proof that Sakura is still "in love" with him, but we do know she does love him in a way you would care for your sibling AKA platonic love. We do not question this at all. It has shown based on her actions and expressions that her feelings for her have become more platonic (and somewhat hostile). Both Naruto and Sakura get the same expressions of exaggerated gloominess on their faces when Sasuke is mentioned so I guess it further increases the likelyhood of Statement 2. We may not be right but we are not wrong unless proven otherwise.
Remember the phrase "Actions speak louder than words" and the scientific community agrees with this statement.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=DVXA,DVXA:2005-17,DVXA:en&q=actions+speak+louder+than+words
Again, merely offering my opinion on the matter.
ArseneVA
08-18-2006, 10:54 PM
A well-thought out post by Shisui2006:
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=4935945&postcount=209
Bleach
08-18-2006, 11:06 PM
zomg yays! can i join! i always want naruto and sakura to get together ^_^ thats my dream in naruto XD!
ArseneVA
08-19-2006, 12:03 AM
zomg yays! can i join! i always want naruto and sakura to get together ^_^ thats my dream in naruto XD!
Sure! Welcome to the club!
mairi-chan
08-19-2006, 01:28 AM
hey everyone^^
ah! yeah, what was the whole thing with 319?
well, i'm pretty sure this chapter, wasn't as much about sasuke as we think it is,
it's more of the influence he has and how he ties naruto and sakura together.
would they be as close if they had another member other than sasuke?
i think not.
it shows how sasuke influences them and how important he is.
because, really, a lot of people have been nagging on sasuke, saying how he's all really bad, but, if he was that bad, then why are sakura and naruto trying so hard to bring him back?
this chapter really shows the bond between team 7.
and without sasuke, it isn't whole.
not saying anything about sai, but there's no way he can replace sasuke, as many people have said he could.
sorry, that's my view on it^^
Jo-nov
08-19-2006, 01:33 AM
I must join this club, because I strongly support this couple.
zomg yays! can i join! i always want naruto and sakura to get together ^_^ thats my dream in naruto XD!
Welcome Chibi-Usa and Wd0. :)
We are getting alot of new members lately. :whoo
mairi-chan
08-19-2006, 01:49 AM
well of course!!><
naruto and sakura are one of the most likely couples^^
it makes me so happy to see new members!!
welcome!!^^
ArseneVA
08-19-2006, 03:45 AM
Welcome Chibi-Usa and Wd0. :)
We are getting alot of new members lately. :whoo
If I remember in a pairings popularity poll, wasn't NaruSaku neck and neck with SasuSaku yet a distant third from ShikaTema and NaruHina?
So far, NaruSaku has recieved the most subtle and regular development whereas NaruHina has been completely stagnated during the Chuunin Exams and Hinata's affection for Naruto feels very much like idolatry than love and I find SasuSaku's development erratic and no matter what they say, they cannot change the fact that Sasuke has no romantic interest in anyone and never has in his life. Not to mention he cares not about his future as long as Itachi is dead and is willing to offer his body to Orochimaru as long as it gives him power.
Also, why would Sasuke fall in love and decide to make pink-haired, moody Uchiha babies when he literally cares more about Naruto than Sakura? By the time Sasuke actually fell in love with Sakura, Sasuke and Naruto would be married with three kids.
Note: That last line was a joke, but I think I proved my point.
You cannot have a relationship when the other side does not reciprocate your feelings. Sasuke has never had an interest in romantic relationships and he's made it clear that he never wants to return to Konoha. While Sakura is not exactly in love with Naruto, it has been hinted numerous times that she does have romantic feelings for him and they will continue to develop. Not to mention, based on her actions and expressions, her feelings for Sasuke have become more platonic (and somewhat hostile). We may not be right, but we are not wrong until proven otherwise.
WhiteCherryBlossom
08-19-2006, 04:17 AM
If I remember in a pairings popularity poll, wasn't NaruSaku neck and neck with SasuSaku yet a distant third from ShikaTema and NaruHina?
So far, NaruSaku has recieved the most subtle and regular development whereas NaruHina has been completely stagnated during the Chuunin Exams and Hinata's affection for Naruto feels very much like idolatry than love and I find SasuSaku's development erratic and no matter what they say, they cannot change the fact that Sasuke has no romantic interest in anyone and never has in his life. Not to mention he cares not about his future as long as Itachi is dead and is willing to offer his body to Orochimaru as long as it gives him power.
Also, why would Sasuke fall in love and decide to make pink-haired, moody Uchiha babies when he literally cares more about Naruto than Sakura? By the time Sasuke actually fell in love with Sakura, Sasuke and Naruto would be married with three kids.
Note: That last line was a joke, but I think I proved my point.
You cannot have a relationship when the other side does not reciprocate your feelings. Sasuke has never had an interest in romantic relationships and he's made it clear that he never wants to return to Konoha. While Sakura is not exactly in love with Naruto, it has been hinted numerous times that she does have romantic feelings for him and they will continue to develop. Not to mention, based on her actions and expressions, her feelings for Sasuke have become more platonic (and somewhat hostile). We may not be right, but we are not wrong until proven otherwise.
Very nicely said. And you can support that by using quotes from page 10 and 11 of chapter 309 (Which I have done in some debates and all they say back to me is:...well....Sasuke can redeem himself!!)
Oook...
Anyways, if people are going to interpret 319 as SasuSaku, then they have to interpret it as NaruSasu as well, because Naruto was also thinking the same thing. They were thinking of the empty slot in the team, not Sakura loves Sasuke.
Jo-nov
08-19-2006, 04:47 AM
Very nicely said. And you can support that by using quotes from page 10 and 11 of chapter 309 (Which I have done in some debates and all they say back to me is:...well....Sasuke can redeem himself!!)
Oook...
Anyways, if people are going to interpret 319 as SasuSaku, then they have to interpret it as NaruSasu as well, because Naruto was also thinking the same thing. They were thinking of the empty slot in the team, not Sakura loves Sasuke.
In that case, 319 was more of a SasuNaru chapter because Naruto actually did whispered his name (unlike Sakura), and the base of his argument with Kakashi was related to Sasuke. :amuse
In retrospect, the whole chapter had a "remember Sasuke" vibe, which is cool with me. It is still the biggest reason why Naruto and Sakura continue to train so hard, afterall.
Mizura
08-19-2006, 04:59 AM
People are making a big fuss over the fact that Sakura cried over a pic of TEAM 7. =\
Quite frankly I never saw Sakura truly developing a true one-on-one love for Sasuke. She had a Huge crush on (an idealized version of) Sasuke: yes. And she began to develop genuine worry for the Real Sasuke: yes.
But it's telling that even at the goodbye scene, she never gave a reason as to why she loved the Real Sasuke, for who he is. She even went as far as saying that his one-on-one attitude with her causes her pain (rather than joy).
What I believe was the genuine "love", is her love of team 7 as a whole. She said herself that the days of team 7 is what made her happy. Those were her most precious moments. But I think back then, she associated all those feelings with exclusively Sasuke. But Kakashi and yes, Naruto, are actually also part of that happiness, and I think she's since realized that as well.
Jo-nov
08-19-2006, 09:03 AM
BTW, have anyone here checked out the new anime intro for #197?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VaVaPq16Gzw
Sakura is now displaying hints of her post-timeskip power. Naruto and Sakura also seem to be much closer than usual during the intro events.
Fox-And-Flower
08-19-2006, 10:04 AM
BTW, have anyone here checked out the new anime intro for #197?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VaVaPq16Gzw
Sakura is now displaying hints of her post-timeskip power. Naruto and Sakura also seem to be much closer than usual during the intro events.
yeah i've seen it. its pretty cool. it was becasue the third movie came out and put the scenes of the movie for the intro instead of the original ones:amuse
i seriously cant wait to see it!:laugh
Hinuto
08-19-2006, 11:54 AM
can i join this fc? if sakura really gets over with her problems with naruto then i believe naruto and sakura could make a great match
Bleach
08-19-2006, 01:19 PM
Sure! Welcome to the club!
yay thanks! ^_^
hokuten
08-19-2006, 03:14 PM
Welcome all new members!
Chibi-Usa
08-19-2006, 05:11 PM
Can I join this group?
Krimson
08-19-2006, 05:40 PM
But it's telling that even at the goodbye scene, she never gave a reason as to why she loved the Real Sasuke, for who he is. She even went as far as saying that his one-on-one attitude with her causes her pain (rather than joy).
Yes, I agree 100%. However, people tend to counter that by saying that "love doesn't need a reason". :notrust Such idealists... I mean seriously, there's a reason for everything.
Anyways, I don't see why everyone's making such a big deal out of that crying scene. In part 2 we've already seen Sakura cry for both of her teammates...so why is it so shocking this time? Heck, we don't even know what she's crying about. Could be because she feels weak, she misses the innocent days, she misses Sasuke, she's worried about Akatsuki taking Naruto, or a combination of everything.
Speaking of which, is it just me or has the manga become a lot more mysterious and secretive lately? I mean, first we had Hidan's mysterious power, then the whole thing with "the king", then Tobi and the AL's hair color, and now this crying thing (I'm sure I missed something). I dunno about you guys but nowdays everytime I finish a new chapter, I'm like "NO! WTF is that supposed to mean?!" :P I hope all these things are explained soon...
Fox-And-Flower
08-19-2006, 07:35 PM
I dunno about you guys but nowdays everytime I finish a new chapter, I'm like "NO! WTF is that supposed to mean?!" :P I hope all these things are explained soon...
omg, i know how you feel lol:laugh
About 318. It shows that Naruto and Sakura were thinking the same thing. They miss the good old days of Team 7.
Epizeuxis
08-19-2006, 08:57 PM
I think you are talking about 319, not 318...
...Oh... yeah, I'm also thinking of joining now that I think about it...
Seto Kaiba
08-19-2006, 09:08 PM
Back at the NaruHina vs. NaruSaku thread in the battledome, I gave some perfectly legitimate points on why NaruSaku, not NaruHina is a more similar parallel to Goku/Chichi yet they still insist on the contrary.
I've seen posts in the past in which NaruHina fans would use Goku/Chichi as a parallel or even justification for their pairing, and no one (at least to my knowledge has refuted it).
I acknowledge the possibility of NaruHina and all and I do recognize there are may be hints for the pairing, but there are very fallacious reasons NaruHina fans make for their pairing and against NaruSaku, Goku/Chichi comparison just happens to be one of them. I just feel I should tackle at least what I believe to be those fallacious reasonings. And maybe hopefully they'll lose whatever credibility they had. Sometimes I feel I'm making the mistake of trying to get them to agree with me rather than making my point. (I can't let go of an argument sometimes, a bad habit of mine)
hokuten
08-19-2006, 09:13 PM
Can I join this group?
You already joined just a couple days ago, and I already added you to the member's list. But welcome to the club anyway!
Jo-nov
08-19-2006, 09:19 PM
can i join this fc? if sakura really gets over with her problems with naruto then i believe naruto and sakura could make a great match
You can only join if you change your avatar. :P
Seriously, welcome. :)
ArseneVA
08-19-2006, 09:24 PM
I've always thought that -- in literary terms -- NaruSaku was closer related to GokuChichi then Naruhina was. After all, both Naruto and Dragonball were based on Japanese myth and folklore.
In the Japanese myth, Goku wound up with Chichi. Bulma wound up with Yamcha (as she did in the ORIGINAL Dragonball -- her turning to Vegeta didn't happen until well after Akira lost control of the original plot).
In the Japanese myth, Tsunade (whose apprentice is Sakura) wound up with Jiraiya (whose apprentice is Naruto). I can't think of a Hinata-like character in either the Legend of the Gallant Jiraiya or the legends of the Kyuubi (the two myths upon which Naruto is loosely based)
Seto Kaiba
08-19-2006, 09:38 PM
It was brought up in the H&E forums, but you know that "where's the blush?" banner many of them have? Who thought up of that because I don't remember anyone saying she was blushing. Oh and also I saw the original picture, they edited out the beads of sweat she had.
Krimson
08-19-2006, 09:52 PM
Meh, don't bother with NaruHina fans. Most of them just like the pairing because either they think it's "cute" or they like Hinata's body. :notrust Yes, there are those that actually like the pairing for storyline purposes, but those people aren't the ones dragging on the debates. :amuse
Personally, I can only think of one way NaruHina could possibly happen while not ruining the manga, and that would be hinting at the start of a relationship in the very last chapter. Of course, that would make it a really bad ending, so nvm, there are no ways I can think of. :P
ArseneVA
08-19-2006, 10:15 PM
It was brought up in the H&E forums, but you know that "where's the blush?" banner many of them have? Who thought up of that because I don't remember anyone saying she was blushing. Oh and also I saw the original picture, they edited out the beads of sweat she had.
They really should accept the fact that Sakura has feelings for the blonde and that her feelings for Sasuke appear to have become more platonic (and somewhat hostile) based on what we've seen.
Both NaruHina and SasuSaku are scraping the bottom of the barrel in order to support their arguments. NaruHina's development has been completely stagnated in the Chuunin Exams and SasuSaku's development was erratic in Part 1. People always bring up Ch. 181 as "proof" that Sakura will always love Sasuke without evaluating the story as a whole. Also, why do people claim she was willing to go with him when she clearly said that he didn't stop, she would scream? Also, remember when she said his attitude caused her pain, not joy?
I hope to God this isn't what true love is supposed to be like...
Where Sasuke made Sakura weak and shrivel up inside, Naruto made her strong. Remember in the Chuunin exams where she was cheering him on like mad, felt on top of the world when he won, mentioned that he inspires her to try her best and says "it is an incredible thing"? And must I bring up how much they think alike and the fact that she just sat and watched Sasuke's matches with a look on her face that says "hmm...another interesting fight"?
Look for "Sakura's gradual acknowledgement of Naruto" for a better explanation as well as a whole series of NaruSaku moments in wonderful detail. Try bringing some of these up in arguments:
BlessedDevil's essays: http://forums.abs-cbn.com/lofiversion/index.php/t32937.html
I've posted these points before and i'll do it again:
One cannot deny that two main characters are more often than not sure to end up together. It’s kind of boring and way overdone, right? Does that mean that if Naruto and Sakura were to end up together, the manga would be boring and cliché?
Actually, it won’t. Because with Naruto and Sakura, the author actually gave us a reason why the two should end up together. Their relationship would make perfect sense, and even a good story. In the beginning, Naruto had nothing. No family, no love, not even good skills as a ninja. He had to earn everything. Then he has this rival who has everything. He had skills and talent. Everyone recognized him. He even has the affection of the girl that Naruto likes. As the story progressed, things started to change. Naruto improved, people paid attention to him, and he rose from dead-last dropout to recognizable, powerful ninja. He has earned everything he ever wanted. Sasuke, on the other hand, lost (not to say lost, but rather, “sacrificed”) everything he had.
Everything that Sasuke lost, Naruto earned. And would it be so cliché if he earned Sakura’s love, too? I don’t watch a lot of anime, so I don’t know if what I’m saying is anything new. Maybe it has been done in the past already. But I can also say that Sasuke x Sakura’s “Girl comforts angsty guy” has also been done. And so has Naruto x Hinata’s “Shy girl finds courage to tell guy ‘I love you’”. And tell me, how often does “Girl slowly sees how great the guy is” happen?
Based on what I have observed, people say that Naruto and Sakura can’t end up together because they only have a brother and sister relationship. Why would people say that? We all know that Naruto likes Sakura. He tried to kiss her when he was in Sasuke form. He tried to eat with her when they became teammates. He looked really sad whenever Sakura hugged and cried over Sasuke. Konohamaru and GamaKichi thought that Sakura was Naruto’s girlfriend. Naruto spied on Sakura while she was bathing. Where’s the platonic relationship in those? So because Naruto didn’t obsess over Sakura, it means he doesn’t love her? I think it only means that he’s more mature than her and he doesn’t need to fanboy over her. And even if they do think of each other as brother and sister, what’s wrong? Would it suddenly become incest or something even though they aren’t related?
My gripe about SasuSaku relationship-wise: (again, i've said this before):
I think that a relationship with these two would bore me. Here, we have a renowned cool guy, and on the other hand, we have a fiery, wild girl. Sasuke lacks this ability to be someone... silly. It would make him look rather odd. He’d hold Sakura back from ever being funny. Besides, Naruto already has that “silly guy” role.
Whenever Sasuke was around Sakura we always see Inner Sakura appear. She can’t act herself whenever Sasuke is around, because she always wants to impress him, which is precisely what degrades Sakura into an annoying Sasuke fangirl. We always see the worst of Sakura when she’s around Sasuke, but when she’s around Naruto, she seems to want to try her best to be strong. And it is precisely because of Naruto that Sakura became an awesome medic nin who could surpass Tsunade one day. Sasuke is like the winter that makes the flower shrivel up while Naruto is like spring which makes the flower bloom.
One last thing I hate about SasuSaku is the angst. I believe that angst isn’t love. Angst is depressing, cold, and self-centered. It fits better in a soap opera where nobody is happy and boy do I hate soap operas...
Not to mention they forgot one important fact: Sasuke does not love Sakura in that way and he's never been interested in girls or romantic relationships throughout the entire series. What makes you think he's just gonna do a complete 180 degree turn? Sasuke will not be redeemed until probably near the end of the series and whether he survives or not, you must realize he has never shown interest in having any romantic relationships (like Kakashi, whom I think Sasuke will end up like if he survives, but more serious).
God, I feel like i'm repeating myself all the time...
Krimson
08-19-2006, 10:43 PM
^ Very good points. :thumbs
And yes, debating pairings gets repetitive. :P I've basically given up. There are so many people that just make no sense at all. I always say this, but there's a big difference between liking a pairing and believing a pairing will happen. A lot of people get the two mixed up. They'll come into a debate saying "OMG [insert pairing] is gonna happen because they're obviously meant for eachother!" :notrust
ArseneVA
08-19-2006, 11:01 PM
her actions have all been geared towards sasukes return. she faught sasori with determination because she was going to beat information out of him regarding oros where abouts. wonder why she'd wanna do that!
she punched sai when he was bad mouthing sasuke.
she was prepared to fight sasuke to bring him back and she cried when they failed.
shes crying over a picture of team seven? which component of that picture would cause her sadness? how bout the one thats missing?
They really shouldn't accuse us with blowing things out of proportion when you look at posts like these...Sometimes, convincing people is like riding a tiger. It's sometimes best not to bother trying when they refuse to listen and evaluate the whole story to help back their arguments. Also, do we really need anymore debate threads? Honestly...
ArseneVA
08-19-2006, 11:02 PM
^ Very good points. :thumbs
And yes, debating pairings gets repetitive. :P I've basically given up. There are so many people that just make no sense at all. I always say this, but there's a big difference between liking a pairing and believing a pairing will happen. A lot of people get the two mixed up. They'll come into a debate saying "OMG [insert pairing] is gonna happen because they're obviously meant for eachother!" :notrust
Agreed. I just don't bother anymore. I plan to write an essay, but if I post it here on NF it'll become a flame war by page 2.
Jo-nov
08-19-2006, 11:18 PM
^ Very good points. :thumbs
And yes, debating pairings gets repetitive. :P I've basically given up. There are so many people that just make no sense at all. I always say this, but there's a big difference between liking a pairing and believing a pairing will happen. A lot of people get the two mixed up. They'll come into a debate saying "OMG [insert pairing] is gonna happen because they're obviously meant for eachother!" :notrust
Yeah. If someone wants to 'prove' that a pairing will happen, they should come up with a better argument than "They're cute together," or "They will make great babies." :amuse
I actually like Hinata as a character, but I don't understand how anyone can define her feelings as "love" for Naruto. If you love someone, would it be more logical to help the person when he/she is going through hardships instead of merely spying and watching from afar. That sounds more like admiration than anything else. While Sakura was ignorant about Naruto's suffering, she did try to do something about it as soon as she found out. :notrust
ArseneVA
08-19-2006, 11:31 PM
Yeah. If someone wants to 'prove' that a pairing will happen, they should come up with a better argument than "They're cute together," or "They will make great babies." :amuse
I actually like Hinata as a character, but I don't understand how anyone can define her feelings as "love" for Naruto. If you love someone, would it be more logical to help the person when he/she is going through hardships instead of merely spying and watching from afar. That sounds more like admiration than anything else. While Sakura was ignorant about Naruto's suffering, she did try to do something about it as soon as she found out. :notrust
Well put. There's just no point in debating. Hell, each fandom has it's morons and that is indisputable fact but denying evidence when it is right there in front of you then blowing everything supporting your side (and I mean EVERYTHING) way out of proportion while ignoring the evidence against the pairing is worse.
I have yet to see legitimate reasons why they should not be together. I mean, Kishimoto has spent all this time developing their relationship and NaruHina/SasuSaku's develpments just pale in comparison when you look at the whole picture.
After reading Chapter 181 then rereading the manga, how can you say Sakura was ever in love with Sasuke at all? I'll elaborate on this some other time. Night now...FOOTBALL TIME!!!
Krimson
08-19-2006, 11:36 PM
her actions have all been geared towards sasukes return. she faught sasori with determination because she was going to beat information out of him regarding oros where abouts. wonder why she'd wanna do that!
she punched sai when he was bad mouthing sasuke.
she was prepared to fight sasuke to bring him back and she cried when they failed.
shes crying over a picture of team seven? which component of that picture would cause her sadness? how bout the one thats missing?
Well, all of that is true, but whoever wrote it conviently ignored many parts of what actually happened. :notrust She fought Sasori because she wanted to help Gaara and Naruto. The Oro info was just a little added bonus. She punched Sai because he was badmouthing both of her teammates. And lets see, what about her team could possibly make her cry, other than Sasuke missing?
-Her entire team is split up/had been for 2.5 years.
-One of her teammates is about to get his body taken over.
-The other is being hunted down by some of the most dangerous nin in the world.
-There's a freakin' demon in her best friend.
-Worst of all, she can't do a think to help either of her teammates.
phoenixblood
08-19-2006, 11:37 PM
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7638/narutoandsakuravectortk4.png (http://www.deviantart.com/view/8978632/)
Do you have artistic talent? Do you like to write short fics? Itching for a new inspiration and great place to display your works? Want to go up against a SasuSaku-er on creativity? Just want to appease pb so she'll stop bothering everyone with corny lines to get entries for the contest and advertise the site?
Well....look no further! Check out the Mortal Combat (http://z7.invisionfree.com/NaruSaku_vs_SasuSaku/index.php?act=SC&c=7) section at the NSvsSS forum! All entries must be short stories, poems or original doujinshi/comic/crack strips influenced by the picture or scene provided. During this contest, you will be judged on many different aspects of your story including: your ability to work the scene/picture provided into your tale, presentation and originality, and emotional content (if applicable). One NaruSaku and one SasuSaku entry will be chosen by the panel of judges and then voted on by members in a head-to-head competition!
So what are you waiting for?! Don't miss this great opportunity to strut your stuff!! But don't forget to read the rules first, that's always important! :leepose
(Sorry to bother you guys again about the NSvsSS forum, I just wanted to advertise the contest section because....we have no entries for NaruSaku and only one for SasuSaku. :cry No debating required, all you have to do is register in order to submit an entry.)
Seto Kaiba
08-19-2006, 11:44 PM
^You guys make good points. It just really irks me when I see some post saying: "NaruSaku has no chance/is impossible" or the like or when someone goes along the lines of saying NaruSaku would ruin the story as if their pairing would help it much, and especially many of the old cliche arguments against NaruSaku. I also really don't like it when they try to portray us in negative light. Sometimes I can't help but respond, even though I know It probably wouldn't make much of a difference.
Do you think we should make a list here of often used arguments against NaruSaku and try to come up with our own counterarguments? Does that sound like a good idea?
ArseneVA
08-19-2006, 11:47 PM
^You guys make good points. It just really irks me when I see some post saying: "NaruSaku has no chance/is impossible" or the like or when someone goes along the lines of saying NaruSaku would ruin the story as if their pairing would help it much, and especially many of the old cliche arguments against NaruSaku. I also really don't like it when they try to portray us in negative light. Sometimes I can't help but respond, even though I know It probably wouldn't make much of a difference.
Do you think we should make a list here of often used arguments against NaruSaku and try to come up with our own counterarguments? Does that sound like a good idea?
Yes it does.
Jo-nov
08-20-2006, 12:40 AM
^You guys make good points. It just really irks me when I see some post saying: "NaruSaku has no chance/is impossible" or the like or when someone goes along the lines of saying NaruSaku would ruin the story as if their pairing would help it much, and especially many of the old cliche arguments against NaruSaku. I also really don't like it when they try to portray us in negative light. Sometimes I can't help but respond, even though I know It probably wouldn't make much of a difference.
Do you think we should make a list here of often used arguments against NaruSaku and try to come up with our own counterarguments? Does that sound like a good idea?
Good idea. To start, here are several anti-NaruSaku arguments I quickly thought of that should be relatively easy to counter:
1) "Sakura is closer to Naruto than she was in part 1, but only as a good friend or brother."
2) "Sakura may have been attracted to Naruto in chapter 245, but those feelings disappeared once he tried to perform his new 'perverted' jutsu."
3) "In chapter 297, Sakura didn't blush when Yamato stated that she cared for Naruto. Yamato was also probably going to say something like, 'as a matter of fact, you deeply care about Naruto as a platonic friend,' before he was interrupted."
4) "Sakura is just pretending to like Naruto"
Start game. :amuse
Kaede_ninja23
08-20-2006, 12:57 AM
Hello i'm new here and that is my favorite couple ever soo..can i join?
Krimson
08-20-2006, 12:57 AM
"Sakura is closer to Naruto than she was in part 1, but only as a good friend or brother."
Don't all good relationships start with friendship? And that sibling love argument is bull. They're not related by blood, so why can't a sibling-like relationship become true love? And besides, just what is a "sibling" relationship anyways?
"Sakura may have been attracted to Naruto in chapter 245, but those feelings disappeared once he tried to perform his new 'perverted' jutsu."
Oh yes, her feelings can disappear because a guy attempts to make a joke, but not when a guy knocks her out and then tries to kill her. Makes perfect sense.
"In chapter 297, Sakura didn't blush when Yamato stated that she cared for Naruto. Yamato was also probably going to say something like, 'as a matter of fact, you deeply care about Naruto as a platonic friend,' before he was interrupted."
That would be the stupidest line ever and would make no sense. Any idiot can see they're close friends on first sight. Even Sai said it when they first met. And why would she be blushing if she didn't kno what the hell Yamato was going to say? If someone is talking about romance, you usally blush after they say it, not before. She's a medic, not a psychic. Besides, both Yamato and Sai got interupted, meaning it's something Kishi doesn't want us to know yet.
"Sakura is just pretending to like Naruto"
Yes, and Naruto is just pretending to be a kind, clueless idiot. But secretly, the Kyuubi has been in control all a long and is schemeing to wipe out Konoha once Naruto's body can handle all of his chakra. The whole manga has been a conspiracy! :omg
I'm done. :amuse
EDIT: Welcome Kaede_ninja23! :amuse
Krimson
08-20-2006, 01:12 AM
"NaruSaku fans only like the pairing because of the main guy/main girl thing"
Yes...and you know why? It's because the main guy and main girl get the most development, meaning if they do have a relationship, it'll be the most developed, and will actually fit in the story. :nod
"NaruHina fans aren't scraping at the bottom of the barrel, NaruSaku fans are"
What barrel? :huh
Seto Kaiba
08-20-2006, 01:18 AM
"If Sakura chose Naruto, it'd be like she was just settling for second best"
"NaruSaku would ruin the story if it were to happen"
"Sakura's hits Naruto, does that sound like love to you?"
"NaruSaku fans blow everything out of proportion, they take scenes out of context just to support their pairing"
Krimson
08-20-2006, 01:25 AM
"If Sakura chose Naruto, it'd be like she was just settling for second best"
But Naruto is better than Sasuke (or will be eventually)...that's why he's the main character. :huh
"NaruSaku would ruin the story if it were to happen"
I know this really great manga that you should read. It's called Naruto, and is about 30+ volumes long. You should check it out sometime. :amuse
But seriously, NaruSaku is the only one of "the big 3" that wouldn't ruin the manga. It's gotten so much development, and the development has been done so well. It doesn't conflict with any themes, main ideas, or major plotlines.
"Sakura's hits Naruto, does that sound like love to you?"
Hits him in a playful way. It's a Japanese thing...
"NaruSaku fans blow everything out of proportion, they take scenes out of context just to support their pairing"
We think outside the box. So sue us. Literary elements aren't only for novels. That means scenes can have multiple meanings. Besides, the main arguments used are always concrete.
Seto Kaiba
08-20-2006, 01:41 AM
Here's something funny I figured out after checking out the Anti-NaruSaku FC. The old posts said that the only way NaruSaku were to happen if Kishi pulled a Toriyama, then went on to saying that it doesn't follow standard shonen formula as argument against the pairing. Then the posts around where 297 came out some conceded that NaruSaku did seem to follow some standard shonen formula, but since Kishi is a fan of Toriyama he could very well follow suit and throw pairings together with no explanation instead of following shonen formula.
Tell me if you get tired of this:
"But Sakura said she loves Sasuke, that proves SasuSaku is going to happen"
"Naruto got over Sakura after the promise of a lifetime scene, his asking on dates is just a force of habit" (someone really used this)
"The promise of a lifetime was that Naruto would bring Sasuke back to Sakura, which proves that he believes they should be together as well.
Jo-nov
08-20-2006, 01:42 AM
Hello i'm new here and that is my favorite couple ever soo..can i join?
Welcome, Kaede_ninja23
Feel free to join the conversation. :)
Oh yes, her feelings can disappear because a guy attempts to make a joke, but not when a guy knocks her out and then tries to kill her. Makes perfect sense.
:laugh
Seriously, I do recall reading agruments similar to the ones I posted.
Round 2 (these are a bit harder/weirder):
1) "Sakura was such a b**** to Naruto in part 1. She doesn't deserve him."
2) "Naruto loves Sasuke more." (:huh )
3) "Naruto is already over Sakura." He was just playing when he suggested to take Sakura for a date.
4) "Sasuke really does love Sakura, but he doesn't want to get her involved in his quest for revenge. His quote, 'thank you' " was his way of saying, 'I love you.'"
Krimson
08-20-2006, 01:55 AM
^Yea...that pairing has one single scene as support. They ignore everything else that happens in the manga. Hell, they even ignore everything in that scene except stuff that supports the "love". Quite irritating isn't it?
"Sakura was such a b**** to Naruto in part 1. She doesn't deserve him."
He's not holding a grudge, so there's no problem.
"Naruto loves Sasuke more"
We don't know that, actually. There's nothing in the manga that suggests that. Naruto's never put Sasuke before Sakura, or vice-versa. Besides, even if it were true, he's not gay. :oh
"Naruto is already over Sakura." He was just playing when he suggested to take Sakura for a date.
If he gives up on Sakura, then it means the manga has fallen apart, since one of the main themes, never give up, would have been shattered. Naruto has never given up on anything, and I'm thinking he's not planning to start now.
"Sasuke really does love Sakura, but he doesn't want to get her involved in his quest for revenge. His quote, 'thank you' " was his way of saying, 'I love you'"[/i]
If it was, then he would've kissed her after he knocked her out. Besides, he's never shown any interest in her, ever. How the hell does "thank you" translate into "I love you"? You know how many people would be in love with Naruto if that were true? Off the top of my head, I can think of Sakura, Hinata, Temari, Tsunade, and Inari's mom (lol). And that's just the girls...
Blah, sorry for all the sarcasm. >.< I'm tired lol, it sorta just comes out.
I would like to join. I'm new to this forum and this is the first fan club that came to my mind to join, I've always been a NaruSaku fan.
Krimson
08-20-2006, 02:08 AM
I would like to join. I'm new to this forum and this is the first fan club that came to my mind to join, I've always been a NaruSaku fan.
Welcome! :amuse
Anyways, it's like 1 am here. I'm going to bed. :P Nice talking to you guys.
BTW, do you guys think I should change my sig? I think it looks a bit...weird.
Jo-nov
08-20-2006, 02:14 AM
I would like to join. I'm new to this forum and this is the first fan club that came to my mind to join, I've always been a NaruSaku fan.
Welcome Favp. :)
BTW, do you guys think I should change my sig? I think it looks a bit...weird.
When you pointed that out, I did noticed that the arm looks a bit off. It is nothing major IMO, though.
ArseneVA
08-20-2006, 02:20 AM
I've always thought that -- in literary terms -- NaruSaku was closer related to GokuChichi then Naruhina was. After all, both Naruto and Dragonball were based on Japanese myth and folklore.
In the Japanese myth, Goku wound up with Chichi. Bulma wound up with Yamcha (as she did in the ORIGINAL Dragonball -- her turning to Vegeta didn't happen until well after Akira lost control of the original plot).
In the Japanese myth, Tsunade (whose apprentice is Sakura) wound up with Jiraiya (whose apprentice is Naruto). I can't think of a Hinata-like character in either the Legend of the Gallant Jiraiya or the legends of the Kyuubi (the two myths upon which Naruto is loosely based)
Originally Posted by Darkhope
So Bulma ends up with Yamacha, her ORIGINAL crush? SasuSaku FTW
Theres a difference in that myth with Tsunade and Jiraiya.. it didnt happen in the manga.
Oh...my...God....Way to miss the point entirely.
1. Dragonball was a series that focused on comedy and adventure with some drama here and there but never took itself too seriously. Stop comparing Dragonball to Naruto. They are based on different folklores and have different themes. The pairings were supposed to be COMEDIC, not SERIOUS. Furthermore, how the hell is Yamcha like Sasuke personality wise? Yamcha was afriad of girls while Sasuke didn't give a damn about girls. Sasuke is mostly like Piccolo personality wise.
2. Gee...no duh...
But you are forgetting the point. They are based on two different folklores and thus two different stories with similar main characters personality wise.
Team 7 will succeed where the Legendary Sennin failed. Sasuke may (possibly will) surpass Orochimaru and be redeemed though he will either redeem himself by sacrificing himself to spare Naruto's life or end up like a more serious version of Kakashi if he survives considering he has NEVER been interested in romance at all throughout the story. For him to do a complete 180 would ruin his character. Plus, it is very likely that he will remain the series main antagonist til the end of the story. Second, whereas Tsunade and Jiraiya failed in their relationship, Naruto and Sakura will SUCCEED. I expect a similar moment of what happened in the end of the folklore to happen in the manga, but the manga will not end there.
God, why do I bother?
Jo-nov
08-20-2006, 02:30 AM
Oh...my...God....Way to miss the point entirely.
1. Dragonball was a series that focused on comedy and adventure with some drama here and there but never took itself too seriously. Stop comparing Dragonball to Naruto. They are based on different folklores and have different themes. The pairings were supposed to be COMEDIC, not SERIOUS. Furthermore, how the hell is Yamcha like Sasuke personality wise? Yamcha was afriad of girls while Sasuke didn't give a damn about girls. Sasuke is mostly like Piccolo personality wise.
2. Gee...no duh...
But you are forgetting the point. They are based on two different folklores and thus two different stories with similar main characters personality wise.
Team 7 will succeed where the Legendary Sennin failed. Sasuke may (possibly will) surpass Orochimaru and be redeemed though he will either redeem himself by sacrificing himself to spare Naruto's life or end up like a more serious version of Kakashi if he survives considering he has NEVER been interested in romance at all throughout the story. For him to do a complete 180 would ruin his character. Plus, it is very likely that he will remain the series main antagonist til the end of the story. Second, whereas Tsunade and Jiraiya failed in their relationship, Naruto and Sakura will SUCCEED. I expect a similar moment of what happened in the end of the folklore to happen in the manga, but the manga will not end there.
God, why do I bother?
Where is this DB/Naruto post from?
ArseneVA
08-20-2006, 02:35 AM
Where is this DB/Naruto post from?
Some NaruHina vs NaruSaku thread. Apparently, Darkhope completely missed my point.
mairi-chan
08-20-2006, 02:39 AM
i have no clue...
but well, it's not entirely wrong to compare series.
a lot of people do that.
it's how the world works.
comparing things with others to improve it.
right?
oh well.
anyways, naruto and sakura's relationship, sure it's not fast,
but i think it's one of those relationships when you start to fall for your bestfriend.
something like that, eh?
i mean, naruto, i can't wait till he really gets to show off to sakura^^
heheh...
like, without sasuke, she might fall head over heels in love soon^^
and we all know naruto pretty much feels the same way.
but i don't think kishi is one of those to go into that whole lovey-dovery routine.
Mizura
08-20-2006, 02:46 AM
Ugh, the Chichi/Goku argument. It's like... the biggest cope-out of the day Ever. "NaruHina has no basis nor development whatsoever so let's just claim that it will happen out of the blue anyway by comparing it to a manga that inspired Kishimoto on many fronts but that unlike Naruto never did bother developing relationships in depth, has no main female character of the main character's age, and had the girl Trick the main character into a marriage first."
What, so Hinata will suddenly show up with a marriage certificate showing that she and Naruto were engaged all along?
"But Sakura said she loves Sasuke, that proves SasuSaku is going to happen"
Because one-sided confession makes for a two-sided relationship? :huh Both Konohamaru and Gamakichi implied that Sakura is Naruto's girlfriend. Naruto said to himself that he likes Sakura. Sakura used "daisuki" with Sasuke, which is stronger than "suki" but isn't the all-powerful "aishiteru" either. So what?
"Naruto got over Sakura after the promise of a lifetime scene, his asking on dates is just a force of habit" (someone really used this)
And where did we see him get over her? I saw him pained, personally, but putting Sakura's happiness before his own. That's more a sign of love to me than lack of. For me it's more of a case of "action speaks louder than words" than anything else. :huh
The reason I think Naruto must still retain at least the potential to love Sakura is because the initial reasons that made him like her have never disappeared. Quite the contrary, they've only grown as Sakura has grown stronger (see fond look on his face when he discovers Sakura's new strength). Sakura's affections for Sasuke, by contrast, were always based on a false idealized view of Sasuke. She might have then developed feelings for the "real" Sasuke, except I've yet to see an evidence for that. Even at the goodbye scene, what she said made her happy was team 7 as a whole, whereas Sasuke as an individual just brings her pain.
"The promise of a lifetime was that Naruto would bring Sasuke back to Sakura, which proves that he believes they should be together as well.
Um, no, it shows that he places Sakura's happiness above his own. Which is a good thing in a relationship, really, selfish relationships don't work out that well.
"If Sakura chose Naruto, it'd be like she was just settling for second best"
Not if she choses Naruto Over Sasuke. Which is Quite possible given that she's come to appreciate Naruto more and more, while Sasuke, well...
"NaruSaku would ruin the story if it were to happen"
How so?
"Sakura's hits Naruto, does that sound like love to you?"
Sai has made it pretty clear that Sakura hitting Naruto was more a sign of closeness now than a sign of disrespect. Besides, in Asian media culture, girls hit boys all the time as a sign of playfulness...
"NaruSaku fans blow everything out of proportion, they take scenes out of context just to support their pairing"
You mean like the NaruHina folks and the "I like people Like you"? :huh Actually, we fully take into account context, which happens to be a context that points to NaruSaku growing ever closer together, thank you very much.
mairi-chan
08-20-2006, 03:12 AM
eh? who wrote those arguments, sorry to say, but..
they were cleary poorly thought out...
anything can happen.
kishimoto is a master of magic.
he can do whatever he wants and it will still sound sensible^^
it annoys me on how people think they know what will happen.
when it's clear that it has just a slight chance.
as all couples in this manga are.
slight chances.
and naruto is NOT second best!!
haven't you ever heard of first love?
most of the time it's not the ONLY and LAST love!!
and, um, promise of a lifetime?
does anyone know which chapter that's in?
i'd like to find out please...
Darkhope
08-20-2006, 03:13 AM
Some NaruHina vs NaruSaku thread. Apparently, Darkhope completely missed my point.
I got your point. I'm just messing with you. :oh
*flees*
Jo-nov
08-20-2006, 03:27 AM
eh? who wrote those arguments, sorry to say, but..
they were cleary poorly thought out...
anything can happen.
kishimoto is a master of magic.
he can do whatever he wants and it will still sound sensible^^
it annoys me on how people think they know what will happen.
when it's clear that it has just a slight chance.
as all couples in this manga are.
slight chances.
and naruto is NOT second best!!
haven't you ever heard of first love?
most of the time it's not the ONLY and LAST love!!
and, um, promise of a lifetime?
does anyone know which chapter that's in?
i'd like to find out please...
Well, those were actually some of the anti-NaruSaku arguments I've heard. If you know some better ones, post them up so we can make a counter-argument against them. :amuse
BTW, the "Promise of a Lifetime" is in chapter 183.
mairi-chan
08-20-2006, 03:34 AM
ah! thanky uo for the information!!
but i don't think i'll be posting any of that type of stuff...
since i usually avoid arguments like that.
it was the first time i've seen one, so, sorry...
Amatsu
08-20-2006, 05:56 AM
not to mention Chi Chi is nothing like Hinata as said here.
Chi-Chi plays several roles in the series, such as a wife, mother, grandmother, trainer, and teacher. Personality-wise, she is stubborn, fiesty, outgoing, determined, ambitious, gutsy, bold, and slightly naïve. She is also very loyal to the ones she loves and willing to help anyone in need.
Seriously does that sound ANYTHING like Hinata? Sounds more like Sakura to me.
Also about how Chi Chi tricked Goku into marrying her in the first place.
Soon she comes across Goku on his Kinto 'un. While trying to ride the Kinto'un (Flying Nimbus), Goku touched Chi-Chi to detemine her sex. Brought up as the only daughter of Gyû-maô (Ox-King) and living a secluded life, her face became red and believing very wrongly that Goku liked her (after of course taking offense and kicking Goku who couldn't yet fly off the speeding cloud and then crashing herself), she asks Goku that when she became older Goku will be the person to take her hand in marriage. A naïve Goku agrees, thinking that marriage is some kind of food.
king mickey
08-20-2006, 06:00 AM
what up yall.im in my favriote fc.but im hungry and its makin the noises really loud
Coconut
08-20-2006, 07:53 AM
Oh...my...God....Way to miss the point entirely.
1. Dragonball was a series that focused on comedy and adventure with some drama here and there but never took itself too seriously. Stop comparing Dragonball to Naruto. They are based on different folklores and have different themes. The pairings were supposed to be COMEDIC, not SERIOUS. Furthermore, how the hell is Yamcha like Sasuke personality wise? Yamcha was afriad of girls while Sasuke didn't give a damn about girls. Sasuke is mostly like Piccolo personality wise.
2. Gee...no duh...
But you are forgetting the point. They are based on two different folklores and thus two different stories with similar main characters personality wise.
Team 7 will succeed where the Legendary Sennin failed. Sasuke may (possibly will) surpass Orochimaru and be redeemed though he will either redeem himself by sacrificing himself to spare Naruto's life or end up like a more serious version of Kakashi if he survives considering he has NEVER been interested in romance at all throughout the story. For him to do a complete 180 would ruin his character. Plus, it is very likely that he will remain the series main antagonist til the end of the story. Second, whereas Tsunade and Jiraiya failed in their relationship, Naruto and Sakura will SUCCEED. I expect a similar moment of what happened in the end of the folklore to happen in the manga, but the manga will not end there.
God, why do I bother?
I actually know what you mean, and I agree why do you?
Seto Kaiba
08-20-2006, 08:57 AM
You know I tried explaining why in the NaruHina isn't anything like Goku/Chichi, and I believe I used some very valid points, after a while I just gave up it was obvious to me I couldn't convince them otherwise.
You know I think some of these Anti-NaruSaku fans/NaruHina fans have a double standard. I checked out the old posts and they derided NaruSaku as being a spontaneous and said Kishi would be like Toriyama, Then when our pairing got healthy development they turned around and tried to use Kishi's admiration of Toriyama for justification of their own pairing
Mizura
08-20-2006, 09:12 AM
I still say the Toriyama comparison is the ultimate cop-out. - -|| Chichi/Goku worked because of two things:
1. Toriyama didn't bother developing in-depth romantic relationships anyway
2. Chichi tricked Goku into marriage, and Goku is too dumb to realize what's going on.
Naruto actually does bother to develop relationships, yeesh. Same with the battle system: in DBZ, basically you just throw huge (energy) balls around. But Naruto is much more about match-ups (save eventually when it comes to the two main characters, at some occasions - -|| )
Seto Kaiba
08-20-2006, 10:18 AM
Does anyone else know any arguments against NaruSaku?
"NaruSaku fans pair Naruto with Sakura for shallow reasons, like they're cute together or they like Sakura's body or something"(funny)
"NaruSaku fans completely ignore the development between other characters"
Apparently the Anti-NaruSaku/NaruHina FC don't like what we're doing.
Mizura
08-20-2006, 10:26 AM
^ ... of all the pairings those arguments could be used against, NaruSaku is far from one of them...
Krimson
08-20-2006, 10:31 AM
"NaruSaku fans pair Naruto with Sakura for shallow reasons, like they're cute together or they like Sakura's body or something"(funny)
Well, I have to admit, I do think they look cute together, but that's definately not the main reason nor the only. :notrust They're paired together because of the development between the two.
"NaruSaku fans completely ignore the development between other characters"
No, it's just that Naruto and Sakura have had more development with eachother than any other character in the story; possibly even more than Naruto and Sasuke, who's been out for 80 chapters. (yea I kno that line is gonna kill me :P )
Apparently the Anti-NaruSaku/NaruHina FC don't like what we're doing.
Not our fualt they're lurking. :ninja
narutofan97
08-20-2006, 11:34 AM
hello guys
Mizura
08-20-2006, 11:58 AM
Not our fault they're lurking.
Good point. :ninja
mrpresidenthehe
08-20-2006, 12:22 PM
I personally feel every anti-narusaku fan's argument against NarutoxSakura is the equivalent of the anti-narusaku fan shooting him/herself in the foot. But that's just the bias in me speaking :)
Epizeuxis
08-20-2006, 01:16 PM
I personally feel every anti-narusaku fan's argument against NarutoxSakura is the equivalent of the anti-narusaku fan shooting him/herself in the foot. But that's just the bias in me speaking :)
To me it sounds more like the story of a military accident involving a "dud" missile. One person (naru-hina/anti naru-saku) makes a dumb statement that a test missile that has not exploded is a dud (that naru-saku cant happen, or naru-hina is guarantied). To try and prove their point, they get a hammer (often poorly thought out facts), and proceed to strike the missile (argue), only to have their plan backfire, making them look stupid as they bleed to death from blood loss and a lack of an arm (when their statements are made moot, and they can do little else but back away, or flame).
Kind of a weird example, and probably not the best metaphor, but it sort of made sense to me...(talks to doctor about possible treatment plans).
Seto Kaiba
08-20-2006, 01:43 PM
Searching through the recent pairing threads I have found more arguments used against NaruSaku:
"If Sakura ever stopped loving Sasuke it would ruin her character development"
"Naruto didn't really love Sakura, it was just a crush"
"Naruto and Sakura will be nothing more than close friends"
"NaruSaku fans totally ignore Part 1"
"Yamato has no idea about Team 7, he wasn't credible enough to determine Sakura's feelings"
Krimson
08-20-2006, 01:58 PM
Lmao, this is exactly what I'm debating against atm. :doh
"If Sakura ever stopped loving Sasuke it would ruin her character development"
Her development has been mostly about learning to see people for who they truely are and protecting people she cares about, not chasing after some guy.
"Naruto didn't really love Sakura, it was just a crush"
How can you tell? Out of all the pairings, Naruto has done the most for Sakura to demonstrate his love. He fought a freakin demon to protect her. I mean come on, seriously now.
"Naruto and Sakura will be nothing more than close friends"
The development between the two started at the very beginning of the series, and hasn't stopped since. Knowing this, I'm guessing Kishi isn't going to stop developing their relationship. They're already close friends, so the only place to go next is romantic interest. :amuse
"NaruSaku fans totally ignore Part 1"
No...we don't. Heck, NaruSaku got more development in part 1 than SasuSaku.
"Yamato has no idea about Team 7, he wasn't credible enough to determine Sakura's feelings"
Yes, he is. You can tell if someone has feelings for someone else just by looking at the two for a little while. You can go to the mall and try it, I promise you it'll work. Even Sai, who didn't have emotions, was able to tell they were close friends on first sight. And didn't Sai get cut off to when he was trying to say something? The fact that Kishi cut off both Sai and Yamato means that they were going to say something that Kishi doesn't want us to know yet.
spikespeigel
08-20-2006, 02:26 PM
First post here, but I feel this is the right place to pose this question. In the latest manga chapter (319), we see Sakura crying followed by a shot of Naruto. A lot of my friends have been saying that this scene represents Sakura finally processing the events of 308-309 (Sasuke's appearance) and her feelings for him. I think they're right up to a point. I think she's also processing her feelings for Naruto (possibly because of Yamato's comment to her while Naruto's unconscious after the Orochimaru fight?). I think she's at a crossroads where her emotions are starting to conflict. On the one hand, there's the promise of reuniting with Sasuke. On the other, there's this new relationship she has with Naruto. This new closeness, especially since she now knows the lengths Naruto is willing to go to keep his promise to her about bringing Sasuke back to her. I think this is where the triangle is finally canon. Sure, it's a vague scene. But considering all the events that precede this, I can't help but come to this conclusion. So, my question is, does anyone else see this or am I the only one?
Krimson
08-20-2006, 02:54 PM
^ Well first of all, welcome. :amuse
And no, you're not the only one. There are a lot of different interpretations of that scene. The two most popular are that she misses Sasuke and that she misses the old genin days of her team. The scene is just too vague for anything to be certain. :wink
ViolentlyHappy
08-20-2006, 03:30 PM
^ Well first of all, welcome. :amuse
And no, you're not the only one. There are a lot of different interpretations of that scene. The two most popular are that she misses Sasuke and that she misses the old genin days of her team. The scene is just too vague for anything to be certain. :wink
You said that there are two reasons, so what's the other one? :huh
Krimson
08-20-2006, 03:44 PM
err...I listed the two. :P
-She misses Sasuke.
-She misses the old genin days.
king mickey
08-20-2006, 03:52 PM
hi fly leaf
ViolentlyHappy
08-20-2006, 03:56 PM
err...I listed the two. :P
-She misses Sasuke.
-She misses the old genin days.
Oh, sorry. Guess I totally missed that..... :sweatdrop
@kyuubi-kun: hey hun. :amuse
sayaruTo
08-20-2006, 04:01 PM
Hello there NaruSaku lovers! Here's a fanart of narusaku that I'd like to share with you guys.. I'm sorry if it's not that good though!
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38225539/
ViolentlyHappy
08-20-2006, 04:07 PM
Hello there NaruSaku lovers! Here's a fanart of narusaku that I'd like to share with you guys.. I'm sorry if it's not that good though!
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38225539/
heh, that's not bad.... :amuse
Jo-nov
08-20-2006, 04:21 PM
First post here, but I feel this is the right place to pose this question. In the latest manga chapter (319), we see Sakura crying followed by a shot of Naruto. A lot of my friends have been saying that this scene represents Sakura finally processing the events of 308-309 (Sasuke's appearance) and her feelings for him. I think they're right up to a point. I think she's also processing her feelings for Naruto (possibly because of Yamato's comment to her while Naruto's unconscious after the Orochimaru fight?). I think she's at a crossroads where her emotions are starting to conflict. On the one hand, there's the promise of reuniting with Sasuke. On the other, there's this new relationship she has with Naruto. This new closeness, especially since she now knows the lengths Naruto is willing to go to keep his promise to her about bringing Sasuke back to her. I think this is where the triangle is finally canon. Sure, it's a vague scene. But considering all the events that precede this, I can't help but come to this conclusion. So, my question is, does anyone else see this or am I the only one?
You're not. :) In fact, I think that would come to a similar conclusion if you look at the full scene.
- Sakura sadly holds and looks at a picture of Team 7
- The scene zooms up Sakura's lower face, and a single tear falls.
- The scene focuses on the single tear, and only the moon is shown in the background.
- The scene now focus on Naruto, who comments that he sees a shooting star (which was visually shown as Sakura's tear)
- Naruto thinks of Team 7, and mutters "Sasuke"
When you look at the whole picture, it was very symbolic Team 7 or NaruSakuSasu moment. I would be very effective if you saw the transtition from Sakura to Naruto in motion.
- as the scene change, Sakura's tear changes to a shooting star
- Naruto noticed
- was generally a Team 7 or NaruSakuSasu moment.
Krimson
08-20-2006, 04:53 PM
Hello there NaruSaku lovers! Here's a fanart of narusaku that I'd like to share with you guys.. I'm sorry if it's not that good though!
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38225539/
Very nice. :thumbs
Fox-And-Flower
08-20-2006, 06:01 PM
Hello there NaruSaku lovers! Here's a fanart of narusaku that I'd like to share with you guys.. I'm sorry if it's not that good though!
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/38225539/
thats actually very good:amuse good job:thumbs
I'm actually going to start putting up some of my fanart soon too.:)
Linkaro
08-20-2006, 07:28 PM
Whoa...a lot happen since i was gone. Anyways, I argree that in chapter 319, she is probabbly thinking of Sasuke and the good ol' day, and Naruto. IAnd I argree on the triangle part. She is starting to have more feeling for Naruto but she also want Sasuke back.
But in my mind, a NaruSaku will alway happen, well...mentaully. Even though if they go different ways or different person (e.g NatuHina or SakuSasu), Naruto and Sakura will alway love each other emotually for what they have done for each other.
anselfir
08-20-2006, 07:57 PM
hmm, so sakura is not teh heroine, which makes her branch of the love triangle weaker. but in any case i want to join! ^^ This is the only non-lame pairing for naruto, and the most perfect one. Consider all the parallel narutoverses the naruto-sakura one is the best.
Linkaro
08-20-2006, 08:06 PM
hmm, so sakura is not teh heroine, which makes her branch of the love triangle weaker. but in any case i want to join! ^^ This is the only non-lame pairing for naruto, and the most perfect one. Consider all the parallel narutoverses the naruto-sakura one is the best.
consider youself welcome. :)
Mystic-G
08-20-2006, 08:40 PM
*chants* NaruSaku!!!!
c'mon people chant with me ^_^
NaruSaku!!!!!
pwnage
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