Metallica - Death Magnetic

[Purgatory]

...I'm, for lack of a better word, fucking speechless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puQeXKGLJjY

[adee]

Pretty good man.
I have like one Metallica song on my machine *sad*

I'll go dl discog now!

[Lord Yu]

No don't!

[Purgatory]

Oh, what's this? I found someone who actually LIKES this song besides me.

[adee]

No don't!
Seems like a good song to me.




Plus I've never listened to Metallica other than St. Anger and Unforgiven II

[Purgatory]

Seems like a good song to me.




Plus I've never listened to Metallica other than St. Angerand Unforgiven II

..Dude, you need to listen to shit from their first four/five albums

[Lord Yu]

St Anger is crap. Get their earlier stuff and pretend they broke up.

[adee]

I see. Will do.

Oh I've also listend to their MI 1 theme song.

[Purgatory]

I see. Will do.

Oh I've also listend to their MI 1 theme song.

Dude, just listen to Kill 'Em All - Black and act as if Load/Reload/St. Anger never happened. Except S&M happened, because it was a good live album.

[adee]

What album was When the Bell Tolls in?
I saw the live one, and I liked it.
I hope you guys don't mind it :[

[Purgatory]

What album was When the Bell Tolls in?
I saw the live one, and I liked it.
I hope you guys don't mind it :[

You must mean the performans in 1985 in Day on The Green in Oakland. And it's For Whom The Bell Tolls, from Ride The Lightning.

[Audrey]

This new song is really boring.

[adee]

Yep, the one with Cliff Burton!

[Purgatory]

Yep, the one with Cliff Burton!

Best performance of Bells ever.

[adee]

Have you seen the one with the orchestra behind them? I liked that one too kinda.

[Purgatory]

Have you seen the one with the orchestra behind them? I liked that one too kinda.

That's from the live album S&M. Along with two new songs, they played classics.

[CalRahhh]

It was ok, like the other song they released. Seems like it'll be an ok album, nothing special, if all the songs are like this.

[Kirsty]

That song is very good! :awesome

[Table]

St Anger is crap. Get their earlier stuff and pretend they broke up.

They're still together?!?!?! :awesome




:sag

[Purgatory]

It was ok, like the other song they released. Seems like it'll be an ok album, nothing special, if all the songs are like this.

Wait untill the song with the "Holy Revolver" riff/lyrics come ou.

[Shade]

Second half is significantly better, I might just spin this album.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

I love it! Reminds me of their early ballads ala One and Fade To Black.

[Purgatory]

The intro reminds me of Call of Ktulu immediately, and some Am I Evil, One, etc.

[OSO]

I like it...James voice sounds sexy.Beginning reminded me of the beach boys......song gets better the more i play it,it makes me sad. [in a good way]

wrote down the lyrics.

Born to push you around
Better just stay down
You pull away
He hits the flesh
You hit the ground
Mouths so fulls of lies
Tend to black your eyes
Just keep them closed
Keep praying
Just keep waiting

Waiting for the one
The day that never comes
When you stand up and feel the warmth
But the sunshine never comes, No
No the sunshine never comes

Push you cross that line
Just stay down this time
Hide in yourself
Crawl in yourself
You'll have your time
God I'll make them pay
Take it back one day
I'll end this day
I'll splatter color on this grave

Waiting for the one
The day that never comes
When you stand up and feel the warmth
But the sunshine never comes

Love is a four letter word
And never spoken here
Love is a four letter word
Here in this prison
I suffer this no longer
I put it into
This I swear!
This I swear!
The sun will shine
This I swear!
This I swear!
This I swear!

[Purgatory]

The more I listen to it, the more addicted I am. I got hooked on it like a darkie gets hooked on coke for the first time. Now I'm gonna use it to cry to for privatized reasons.

[OSO]

The more I listen to it, the more addicted I am. I got hooked on it like a darkie gets hooked on coke for the first time. Now I'm gonna use it to cry to for privatized reasons.


LOL darkie on coke

[CalRahhh]

Repeat listens of this and the previous song creates boredom for me. I'm guessing the album will be good for one or two listens but no more. I will wait and see though, as I am not one to make assumptions based on little evidence.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

The more i hear this the more i like it. I love how it progresess from slow ballady song to mass amounts of shredding.

[Lamb]

I'm not gonna lie, I haven't listened to the song, but the lyrics made me throw up a little in my mouth.

[Tehol Beddict]

I took my eyes out for a nice soak in the fireplace. I hadn't even read the lyrics until you just posted, but... damn.

[OSO]

I'm not gonna lie, I haven't listened to the song, but the lyrics made me throw up a little in my mouth.



that's fine. just listen to the song.

[Purgatory]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO-w0D-WjKs

...Holy crap.

[Table]

It's an okay song... but.....wow. Metallica has really changed :(

When does their new album come out?

[Felix]

It seemed better than most of the work from St. Anger
Still the song seemed off to me... it was probably the low quality

I'll wait for the full album before I pass my judgment

[Felix]

Holy crap this is great
Fucking great, gives me a One vibe

[Table]

I'll wait for the full album before I pass my judgment

I suppose I should do this as well ^^

[Bushin]

Well, that was "different". :huh

Sounds like they are trying to recapture the "good old days" (pre-Black album)
era of Metallica. But, I must agree, it sounds....wrong somehow. I can't put my finger on it but, I don't see myself liking it. I think I will pass...:(

[Wolfarus]

Not bad at all. I'll have to check out the album when i find it :amuse

Though for me personally, hard to compare to their black album and the load/reload albums

[Jessica]

Wow, that was really different sounding. I'm not sure what to make of that at all.. But I was never a really big Metallica fan anyway.

[OSO]

2nd half better than 1st half but the song is still a bit meh. the day that never comes is the best one so far. If 4-5 songs out of the whole album are good-great then I'll consider it a successful comeback. maybe this song will be better with a higher quality listen.

[Felix]

2nd half better than 1st half but the song is still a bit meh. the day that never comes is the best one so far. If 4-5 songs out of the whole album are good-great then I'll consider it a successful comeback. maybe this song will be better with a higher quality listen.

Yes, it also seemed this song suffered from low quality.
I'll have to listen the CD to pass my judgment first

[OSO]

the holy revolver song..that's the one that has me pumped.

[Felix]

the holy revolver song..that's the one that has me pumped.

Link please

[Hangatýr]

Sounds emo.

[OSO]

Link please

Its not out yet. all you can hear is some riffs and lyrics. somewhere on youtube.

Today 08:21 AM
Anthony J. Crowley Sounds emo.

then you must like it.

[Trias]

Will you stop making a goddamn thread for every goddamn song? One "new metallica songs" thread will just suffice for metallica fapping, thanks.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

It's ok, it seems like a St Anger song redone. There's too much odd timing for this song, it's like i'm listening to Mastodon.

[Voodoo chile]

I was really happy when I first heard this song, much better than anything I've heard from Metallica in a loooong time.
But that's just me being a fanboy.
I like the guitar sounds in the start and Kirk's solo too.

[Purgatory]

I'm not gonna lie, I haven't listened to the song, but the lyrics made me throw up a little in my mouth.

Maybe if you didn't suck that big fat one in your mouth you wouldn't have thrown up.

[Hangatýr]

Oh my, you sure showed him! That remark was of unfathomable wit and cunning!

[Cabbage Cabrera]

As was yours!! Bravo, oh bravo!!

[OSO]

Oh my, you sure showed him! That remark was of unfathomable wit and cunning!


you like guys with big dicks

[Audrey]

Maybe if you didn't suck that big fat one in your mouth you wouldn't have thrown up.

That's ironic, considering how gay the lyrics to this song are. :X3

[Dr. Boskov Krevorkian]

Fucking hell, where's Dave?

[CalRahhh]

Why can't someone just section ban the Metallica fanboys? They're causing the majority of the flame wars around here lately.

[Purgatory]

I'm not a fucking fanboy, I'm just stating truth.

[Purgatory]

That's ironic, considering how gay the lyrics to this song are. :X3

I wouldn't be talking, Mr. I-use-hearts-for-every-post

[Nuzzie]

Drums are way too dominant. Hope this is an early version. Otherwise it seems decent.

[Trias]

I'm not a fucking fanboy, I'm just stating truth.

You're not a fucking fanboy but you're riding Hetfield's dick so hard that you make a new goddamn thread for every fucking new metallica song lately.

And truth would be the fact that Metallica has done nothing even relatively significant since St Anger (for me, even before that it wasn't worth shit) and only people that like their every new album and songs are the rabid little metallica fanboys, who saw them on MTV and chose them as their new idol. Yeah!!!

[Nuzzie]

Wait people actually liked St Anger?

They've been pretty shit since Black Album, and steadily got worse

[TheWired]

it sounded like Lars was beating a giant egg-beater on a dumpster in the song St. Anger... having said that, I havn't been close too liking anything from Metallica since
And Justice for All. The Guitar work is pretty good on My apoclypse though. It does bring back memories... Lars' drums are a little too strong in the mix though. overall, I say it's better than I expected except for James' vocals...you can tell Rubin pushed them to get back to the thrash

[CalRahhh]

I wouldn't be talking, Mr. I-use-hearts-for-every-post

I wouldn't be talking either, Mr. I-have-a-guy-wearing-tight-leather-pants-and-a-glam-metally-jacket-in-my-sig.

Regardless if he's from the "almighty" Judas Priest, that is one gay outfit.

[Bonten]

Thought it was pretty good live on the weekend

After listening to it when I got home on speakers I was a little disappointed though. ;/

[Cabbage Cabrera]

You're not a fucking fanboy but you're riding Hetfield's dick so hard that you make a new goddamn thread for every fucking new metallica song lately.

And truth would be the fact that Metallica has done nothing even relatively significant since St Anger (for me, even before that it wasn't worth shit) and only people that like their every new album and songs are the rabid little metallica fanboys, who saw them on MTV and chose them as their new idol. Yeah!!!Better to like the band that helped create extreme metal then the bland pieces of shit you listen to. :nod

[OSO]

Man these Emo fags just won't shut the fuck up lol.

[Purgatory]

You're not a fucking fanboy but you're riding Hetfield's dick so hard that you make a new goddamn thread for every fucking new metallica song lately.

And truth would be the fact that Metallica has done nothing even relatively significant since St Anger (for me, even before that it wasn't worth shit) and only people that like their every new album and songs are the rabid little metallica fanboys, who saw them on MTV and chose them as their new idol. Yeah!!!

It's because I'm actually anticipating a GOOD album since the last three sucked. And so far, it's better than all three of them together.

Wait people actually liked St Anger?

They've been pretty shit since Black Album, and steadily got worse

Black was fucking good.

I wouldn't be talking either, Mr. I-have-a-guy-wearing-tight-leather-pants-and-a-glam-metally-jacket-in-my-sig.

Regardless if he's from the "almighty" Judas Priest, that is one gay outfit.

Don't fucking diss Glenn Tipton.

[Audrey]

Better to like the band that helped create extreme metal then the bland pieces of shit you listen to. :nod

If you think Metallica is the only (or even one of the most important) band in creating extreme metal, you're a funny person. :X3

Slayer, for one, was way more influential on extreme metal than Metallica ever will be, not to mention that one of the first extreme metal bands, Venom, existed before Metallica was formed. Possessed, the first band to play what would become death metal, recorded a demo before Metallica released anything, and Kreator, Sodom and Bathory all formed around that same time and had releases within the same year, and all three of those bands are more influential on extreme metal than Metallica.

[Audrey]

I wouldn't be talking, Mr. I-use-hearts-for-every-post

Ms. would be much more accurate, not that it was obvious by my username or anything like that. :wink

[Purgatory]

Ms. would be much more accurate, not that it was obvious by my username or anything like that. :wink

...Sometimes I wonder..

[TheWired]

If you think Metallica is the only (or even one of the most important) band in creating extreme metal, you're a funny person. :X3

Slayer, for one, was way more influential on extreme metal than Metallica ever will be, not to mention that one of the first extreme metal bands, Venom, existed before Metallica was formed. Possessed, the first band to play what would become death metal, recorded a demo before Metallica released anything, and Kreator, Sodom and Bathory all formed around that same time and had releases within the same year, and all three of those bands are more influential on extreme metal than Metallica.

FUCKING SLAYER!!!!!!!!!
Seriously I agree.. The good old days.. Reign in Blood, South of Heaven, Seasons in the Abyss, even Divine Intervention.. all epic as fuck!! Some of my fav songs are Manditory suicide, South of heaven, and of course..
WAR ENSEMBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Propaganda death ensemble
Burial to be
Corpses rotting through the night
In blood laced misery
Scorched earth the policy
The reason for the singe
The pendulum it shaves the blade
The strafing air blood raid

Infiltration push reserves
Encircle the front llines
Supreme art of strategy
Playing on the minds
Bombard till submission
Take all to their graves
Indication of triumph
The number that are dead


Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victorys a massacre
The final swing is not a drill
Its how many people I can kill!!!!!!!

[CalRahhh]

Don't fucking diss Glenn Tipton.

I'll diss who ever I want. Oh, and just remember where your hero Rob Halford stands with his sexual orientation before you starting dissing people for being 'gay'.

[Purgatory]

I'll diss who ever I want. Oh, and just remember where your hero Rob Halford stands with his sexual orientation before you starting dissing people for being 'gay'.

But this is Rob Halford we're talking about.

[CalRahhh]

But this is Rob Halford we're talking about.

Yes, the guy that silenced all the gay-bashing metalheads such as yourself by coming out of the closet.

[Audrey]

Rob Halford talked about how he hid references to homosexuality in Judas Priest lyrics, some of which are actually really funny and obvious.

[Lamb]

Rob Halford talked about how he hid references to homosexuality in Judas Priest lyrics, some of which are actually really funny and obvious.

I prefer the 'gay' songs he made after coming out;

I've got no sympathy
For all you've done to me
I'll bring you to your knees
And give you what you please

I'm gonna get to you
Just like you got to me
And then I'll do to you
Just what you did to me

I'm gonna shoot it,
I'm gonna shoot it,
Cause I'm locked and loaded

I'm gonna shoot it,
I'm gonna shoot it,
Cause I'm locked and loaded

I aim to make you high
Won't stop until you cry
Just when you think I'm done
I've only just begun

I'm gonna get to you
Just like you got to me
And then I'll do to you
Just what you did to me

I'm gonna shoot it,
I'm gonna shoot it,
Cause I'm locked and loaded

I'm gonna shoot it,
I'm gonna shoot it,
Cause I'm locked and loaded

I'm gonna get to you
Just like you got to me
And then I'll do to you
Just what you did to me

I'm gonna shoot it,
I'm gonna shoot it,
Cause I'm locked and loaded

I'm gonna shoot it,
I'm gonna shoot it,
Cause I'm locked and loaded

:zaru

[Nomeru]

I'm considering getting tickets for when they come to seattle december first I believe it is.. so, is this from their new album then? Overall, I like megadeth more than metallica, but hey, metallica can own.

[Purgatory]

I'm considering getting tickets for when they come to seattle december first I believe it is.. so, is this from their new album then? Overall, I like megadeth more than metallica, but hey, metallica can own.

The album might have better quality and such, and I hope they get to tour with Godsmack. Also, United Abominations was pretty much...an abomination.

[Nomeru]

Heh say what you want, megadeth isnt perfect, but it was certainly better than st anger <.<...

But this thread isnt really about that, I shouldnt have mentioned megadeth, there's enough stuff megadeth vs metallica already, we dont need another one right now :D.

[Purgatory]

Heh say what you want, megadeth isnt perfect, but it was certainly better than st anger <.<...

But this thread isnt really about that, I shouldnt have mentioned megadeth, there's enough stuff megadeth vs metallica already, we dont need another one right now :D.

Death Magnetic > United Abominations

[Nomeru]

lol, well I did say I liked Metallica didnt I?

[Purgatory]

I just hate Risk and UA.

[Nomeru]

That's fair enough. I thought UA was ok, not great, but risk sucked ass. I wasnt a huge fan of cryptic writings either, followed by the system has failed.

[Purgatory]

That's fair enough. I thought UA was ok, not great, but risk sucked ass. I wasnt a huge fan of cryptic writings either, followed by the system has failed.

I thought Trust was pretty good because it can relate to me.. and Blackmail the Universe was pretty fucking sweet. The only decent sog from Risk was that one song..

[Trias]

lol new songs are crap. We had a demo that was more professional-looking than this which we recorded about, 4,5 year ago.

[GodlyPower]

Master of puppets, kills this song..... so is unforgiven...

[Nomeru]

:( video removed from youtube

[Purgatory]

Master of puppets, kills this song..... so is unforgiven...

Dude, get the fuck over it. They're not 20 anymore, you can't just expect Master of Puppets part II. Besides, alcohol gets the best of us right before rehab. Look at Dave Mustaine, after going to rehab and finding his "religion", he turns to total crap, but no one complains about UA. But since this is Metallica, people expect another fucking Ride The Lightning, or Kill 'Em All, or ...And Justice For All. And even if they did keep playing it, do you want them to sound not as great Slayer? Sure, Load, Reload, and St. Anger were pieces of shit, but compared to this album so far, it's already almost as great as Black. If you listen to the song, you can hear James' vocals are being pushed to the gruffness that it was back in the Black album. As a note, you can't pull that off and expect to keep doing it forever without reprecussion.

[OSO]

Trias shut up.. LOL demo yeah like your fat ass can play an instrument. I have tickets for metallica in fresno!

[Purgatory]

lol new songs are crap. We had a demo that was more professional-looking than this which we recorded about, 4,5 year ago.

If you think it's crap, I dare you to play My Apocalypse..or try to. Unless you've been in a band for 20+ years, then shut the fuck up.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

If you think Metallica is the only (or even one of the most important) band in creating extreme metal, you're a funny person. :X3

Slayer, for one, was way more influential on extreme metal than Metallica ever will be, not to mention that one of the first extreme metal bands, Venom, existed before Metallica was formed. Possessed, the first band to play what would become death metal, recorded a demo before Metallica released anything, and Kreator, Sodom and Bathory all formed around that same time and had releases within the same year, and all three of those bands are more influential on extreme metal than Metallica.Can't find where i said Metallica was the one and only...nope, wait i think i...no sorry it's not there. So so much for your bash mah friend. :nuts

[Cabbage Cabrera]

After listening to this a few more times i gotta say i like it better.

[Steven Pinhead]

This actually has me excited for this album.

There was a 252kps version floating around Youtube when I looked this morning.

[Trias]

Dude, get the fuck over it. They're not 20 anymore, you can't just expect Master of Puppets part II. Besides, alcohol gets the best of us right before rehab. Look at Dave Mustaine, after going to rehab and finding his "religion", he turns to total crap, but no one complains about UA. But since this is Metallica, people expect another fucking Ride The Lightning, or Kill 'Em All, or ...And Justice For All. And even if they did keep playing it, do you want them to sound not as great Slayer? Sure, Load, Reload, and St. Anger were pieces of shit, but compared to this album so far, it's already almost as great as Black. If you listen to the song, you can hear James' vocals are being pushed to the gruffness that it was back in the Black album. As a note, you can't pull that off and expect to keep doing it forever without reprecussion.

Your mom's crap, dude, your mom's crap. Every single release of Megadeth curbstombed every single release Metallica has ever done and is ever going to do. Black Album is not great or anything, too. Get over with Megadeth (along with majority of the other bands of its time) being better than Metallica.

[Trias]

Trias shut up.. LOL demo yeah like your fat ass can play an instrument. I have tickets for metallica in fresno!

Yeah, my fat ass, really, can't play an instrument at all. Damn.

If you think it's crap, I dare you to play My Apocalypse..or try to. Unless you've been in a band for 20+ years, then shut the fuck up.

Lmao, you've got to be in a band for more than 20 years in order to play any of metallica's songs? Please, anyone with 3 years of guitar playing history should be able to play any metallica songs with ease. If not, that person is pretty retarded. And why thank you, playing anything to dumbfucks like you would be pretty much a waste, as in your little mind you've already concluded that metallica is better.

Can't find where i said Metallica was the one and only...nope, wait i think i...no sorry it's not there. So so much for your bash mah friend. :nuts

Yeah, you obviously didn't said so, that's why exactly give a blowjob to Hetfield everytime it's mentioned. :zaru

[destroy_musick]

merged threads

we dont need two threads about two songs from the same album

[OSO]

Yeah, my fat ass, really, can't play an instrument at all. Damn.



Lmao, you've got to be in a band for more than 20 years in order to play any of metallica's songs? Please, anyone with 3 years of guitar playing history should be able to play any metallica songs with ease. If not, that person is pretty retarded. And why thank you, playing anything to dumbfucks like you would be pretty much a waste, as in your little mind you've already concluded that metallica is better.



Yeah, you obviously didn't said so, that's why exactly give a blowjob to Hetfield everytime it's mentioned. :zaru

If you want to lose some weight you can coming jogging with me. just try and keep up. After you lose some weight and your fat fingers swell down i can show you to play guitar or piano.

[Purgatory]

Your mom's crap, dude, your mom's crap. Every single release of Megadeth curbstombed every single release Metallica has ever done and is ever going to do. Black Album is not great or anything, too. Get over with Megadeth (along with majority of the other bands of its time) being better than Metallica.

Dude..Metallica owned Megadeth throughout the 80s, and early 90s. And to be honest, who the fuck listens to Risk, Cryptic Writings, or UA?

Also, remember this: Without Metallica, there would be no Megadeth

[Trias]

Metallica owned what? :rotfl Metallica was shooting music videos for MTV while Megadeth was re-vitalizing the underground trash scene along with other two not-sold-out trash giants. Even by looking at the names of the musicians that played with Megadeth through their albums would make it obvious that Megadeth is a better band than Metallica (for someone with a decent musical knowledge, at least.) Risk, UA and Cryptic Writings were not as good as others, but comparing them to generic crap like St Anger, Load, Reload, is retarded. (And anyone who doesn't listen to at least a few songs from Cryptic Writings simply has no right to talk about good music.)

And yeah, without Mustaine getting kicked from Metallica, there would be no Megadeth. Which is completely irrevelant and does not mean anything at all.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

Yeah, you obviously didn't said so, that's why exactly give a blowjob to Hetfield everytime it's mentioned. :zaruEh....what?

[Felix]

Oh for the love of god, fanaticism towards bands is a bit pathetic. Cut down the insults please :/

[OSO]

Everyone don't take Trias seriously. I've encountered his kind before. unlike most of us we can enjoy both Megadeth and Metallica. He's on of those retards that picks a side and hates the other side with all his guts cause he's an idiot.

[Lord Yu]

And yeah, without Mustaine getting kicked from Metallica, there would be no Megadeth. Which is completely irrevelant and does not mean anything at all.

Hole in logic.:wha

[Trias]

Don't take him serious, Yu. :pek

[Dr. Obvious]

Here be some 30-second previews of all the songs thrown into one big pile of youtube video. (originally ripped off the walmart site, haha)

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Some reviews have been saying that The Unforgiven 3 kicks its predecessors to the curb, so I'm not going to judge it off that little clip since it didn't have much.

[OSO]

holy shit man thanks! unforgiven 3 sounded soooo good!

[Purgatory]

Metallica owned what? :rotfl Metallica was shooting music videos for MTV while Megadeth was re-vitalizing the underground trash scene along with other two not-sold-out trash giants. Even by looking at the names of the musicians that played with Megadeth through their albums would make it obvious that Megadeth is a better band than Metallica (for someone with a decent musical knowledge, at least.) Risk, UA and Cryptic Writings were not as good as others, but comparing them to generic crap like St Anger, Load, Reload, is retarded. (And anyone who doesn't listen to at least a few songs from Cryptic Writings simply has no right to talk about good music.)

And yeah, without Mustaine getting kicked from Metallica, there would be no Megadeth. Which is completely irrevelant and does not mean anything at all.

And Megadeth DIDN'T have music videos? Remember Peace Sells? Wake Up Dead?

Even Dave said Risk sucked CoughcoughMartyFriedmanbecomingapussycough

The only decent song from Cryptic Writings is Trust

Trias, had it not been for Metallica, Dave wouldn't have a grudge band to compete with with his excessive bitching about how much he got kicked out

So yes, this is relevant.

[Purgatory]

Here be some 30-second previews of all the songs thrown into one big pile of youtube video. (originally ripped off the walmart site, haha)

YQvDWdK_b1E

Some reviews have been saying that The Unforgiven 3 kicks its predecessors to the curb, so I'm not going to judge it off that little clip since it didn't have much.

...Well fuck my ass and call me Suzie, this album has my adrenalin going. I hope to God they have that "Holy Revolver" riff/lyrics in one of those songs (I'm looking at you, Suicide & Redemption :pek)

[Dr. Obvious]

...Well fuck my ass and call me Suzie, this album has my adrenalin going. I hope to God they have that "Holy Revolver" riff/lyrics in one of those songs (I'm looking at you, Suicide & Redemption :pek)

S&R is the instrumental :nuts

[OSO]

that little bass part in suicide and redemption sounded pretty effing sweet.

[Audrey]

Can't find where i said Metallica was the one and only...nope, wait i think i...no sorry it's not there. So so much for your bash mah friend. :nuts

Hi:
Better to like the band that helped create extreme metal then the bland pieces of shit you listen to. :nod

Singular reference to "the band who helped create extreme metal," and not plural. By the way, stating an opposing opinion isn't bashing someone. Actually, Metallica really wasn't that influential on extreme metal at all, especially not compared to Slayer.

[OSO]

Hi:


Singular reference to "the band who helped create extreme metal," and not plural. By the way, stating an opposing opinion isn't bashing someone. Actually, Metallica really wasn't that influential on extreme metal at all, especially not compared to Slayer.

Opinions are like ........

[Audrey]

Last time I checked, bands being influential is an objective fact and not something subjective to opinions. Those bands were objectively (read: factually) more influential on the development of extreme metal than Metallica.

If you don't like the truth, I suggest you actually learn about the genre or look up the definitions of "objective" and "influential" before making idiotic statements.

[Purgatory]

S&R is the instrumental :nuts

Prove it :pek

Last time I checked, bands being influential is an objective fact and not something subjective to opinions. Those bands were objectively (read: factually) more influential on the development of extreme metal than Metallica.

If you don't like the truth, I suggest you actually learn about the genre or look up the definitions of "objective" and "influential" before making idiotic statements.

So..thrash can't be extreme? What about Wehrmacht? What about S.O.D? DRI? etc.,etc.

[Audrey]

Thrash metal is one part of extreme metal. Those other bands have a much wider influence on the genre as a whole, being formulative in the development of the much more extreme subgenres such as black metal and death metal, as well as being influential thrash metal standards that are still held in very high regard although they don't have the commercial success of Metallica.

And quite frankly, commercial success has very little to do with influence or how good a band's music really is. Take a look at the Backstreet Boys and Panic! at the Disco if you disagree.

[Purgatory]

Thrash metal is one part of extreme metal. Those other bands have a much wider influence on the genre as a whole, being formulative in the development of the much more extreme subgenres such as black metal and death metal, as well as being influential thrash metal standards that are still held in very high regard although they don't have the commercial success of Metallica.

And quite frankly, commercial success has very little to do with influence or how good a band's music really is. Take a look at the Backstreet Boys and Panic! at the Disco if you disagree.

..You do know Metallica was very influential even before they had Bob Rock, right?

[OSO]

Thrash metal is one part of extreme metal. Those other bands have a much wider influence on the genre as a whole, being formulative in the development of the much more extreme subgenres such as black metal and death metal, as well as being influential thrash metal standards that are still held in very high regard although they don't have the commercial success of Metallica.

And quite frankly, commercial success has very little to do with influence or how good a band's music really is. Take a look at the Backstreet Boys and Panic! at the Disco if you disagree.

all I hear is a bunch of hot air. got any proof to back up your so called ''facts''?

[Audrey]

If you don't know that Possessed and Kreator are the beginnings of death metal, and that Sodom, Celtic Frost and Venom are the beginnings of black metal, not to mention the fact that thrash metal existed for years before Metallica played it back when those bands and others played it in the late 70's, there's not even a point to me continuing this conversation. You can look up information about everything I just said easily and confirm that it's true on just about any metal website or even Wikipedia, and Wikipedia will also contain external links to objective sources that will further document this information.

Prove me wrong since you clearly know so much about music.

[OSO]

If you don't know that Possessed and Kreator are the beginnings of death metal, and that Sodom, Celtic Frost and Venom are the beginnings of black metal, not to mention the fact that thrash metal existed for years before Metallica played it back when those bands and others played it in the late 70's, there's not even a point to me continuing this conversation. You can look up information about everything I just said easily and confirm that it's true on just about any metal website or even Wikipedia, and Wikipedia will also contain external links to objective sources that will further document this information.

Prove me wrong since you clearly know so much about music.

No cause i really really really don't care who influenced who or what. I listen to music and i either like it or i don't. it takes away from enjoying music getting caught up on the details and arguing over trivial shit you think is important.

[Purgatory]

If you don't know that Possessed and Kreator are the beginnings of death metal, and that Sodom, Celtic Frost and Venom are the beginnings of black metal, not to mention the fact that thrash metal existed for years before Metallica played it back when those bands and others played it in the late 70's, there's not even a point to me continuing this conversation. You can look up information about everything I just said easily and confirm that it's true on just about any metal website or even Wikipedia, and Wikipedia will also contain external links to objective sources that will further document this information.

Prove me wrong since you clearly know so much about music.

That Sodom part you have to be pulling out of your ass. Yes, Venom was part black, as well as thrash, but the other two..not so much. And I see Possessed more of a Death Metal band, Kreator can almost be said the same.

[Audrey]

Like I said, Possessed and Kreator are the beginnings of death metal. Sodom, whether you like it or not, was one of the very first bands to play what would become black metal. If you don't think so, my advice would be to read about them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_(band)

Sodom is a German thrash metal band formed in 1982. They are widely considered one of the three biggest Teutonic thrash metal bands; the other two being Kreator and Destruction.

While the other two big German thrash metal bands created a sound that would later influence death metal, Sodom stands out uniquely among its contemporaries as creating a sound that would later greatly influence many black metal bands, among others, that would form in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Here's what the most complete online metal encyclopedia has to say:

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=419

Genre(s)
Black/Speed/Thrash Metal

Not to mention how Quorthon of Bathory, which is one of the first black metal bands, along with Euronymous and others from Norway, the place that came to define black metal in the 1990's, called Sodom's works "monuments of black metal" and were heavily influenced by them.

[Purgatory]

Lyrically and by riffs, Sodom sounds alot more like thrash than black

[Audrey]

I never said Sodom was a black metal band. I said they were influential on the development black metal early on. It's still undeniable that a large portion of their work has black metal overtones, especially since lyrics have very little to do with what is black metal and what isn't. The vocals and recording style on a lot of their music resemble black metal, not to mention the fact that earlier black metal resembles thrash metal. If you don't think so, listen to Venom and Bathory and tell me neither band has a thing to do with thrash metal, just like every other early band in the style.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

Hi:


Singular reference to "the band who helped create extreme metal," and not plural. By the way, stating an opposing opinion isn't bashing someone. Actually, Metallica really wasn't that influential on extreme metal at all, especially not compared to Slayer.As in they weren't the only one. Now try again.

[Audrey]

Yeah, aside from the fact that you said in singular fashion that they were the band who influenced extreme metal, not a band who influenced extreme metal, which is especially funny given the fact that they aren't very influential on it to begin with.

Metallica isn't the be-all end-all of metal, and they're definitely not the be-all end-all of thrash metal. They also haven't released anything that's really relevant to thrash as a whole in years.

[OSO]

so.........

[TheWired]

Yeah, aside from the fact that you said in singular fashion that they were the band who influenced extreme metal, not a band who influenced extreme metal, which is especially funny given the fact that they aren't very influential on it to begin with.

Metallica isn't the be-all end-all of metal, and they're definitely not the be-all end-all of thrash metal. They also haven't released anything that's really relevant to thrash as a whole in years.

I'm going to have to agree with you here. It's easy to see that metallica is trying to get back to their heavier roots on some songs in this album. But they pissed away their metal cred over a decade ago. Keep in mind that this is just my opinion and it doesn't mean I don't like metallica's old shit.... For fuck's sake I still sport that old school Metal up your Ass t-shirt. And Master of Puppet's was a training ground on the guitar for me. So I still give them props. I'll tell you What happened in my case. I'm 31 years old. Kill'em all, MOP, Ride the Lightning, AJFA.. Me and My buddies were into all of that shit.. But at the same time we were really into Reign in blood, South of Heaven and then came the kicker.. If I remember correctly we got hold of Slayer's Seasons in the abyss album In when it came out in 1990. We fucking loved it. War Ensemble became a sort of anthem for us as everyone tried to learn that shit on the guitar. THEN... metallica's Black album came out. and we tried like a mother fucker to dig that shit and it just didn't stick with us. Not to mention we were really into other shit Like Sepultura's Arise and Chaos A. D. albums.
And Holy shit Pantera had a whole helluva lot to do with it to. I think that Metallica just went soft in their songwriting. But I'll tell you what as A guitar player, I'll tell you that James Hetfield has WAY better Rythm chopps than I do. And Kirk has got nasty skills too. It's about songwriting though. and a lot of us who were hardcore fans just feel like their songs went to shit after justice.
By the way.. Lars being a arrogant fuckstick doesn't help their case at all. It doesn't matter anyways you guys. Mettalica's day has come and gone. Their are way better bands around now. And why the fuck are their so many matallica threads anyways? I'm sure A lot of you guys probably will hate what I said here, But I was just trying to be honest and offer a little explanation. Laters

[Audrey]

so.........

So if someone comes into a discussion thread about Metallica and has something negative to say, you should put thought into your posts instead of calling people stupid and acting like a little kid. Everyone has a right to an opinion, so claiming that people who disagree with you are automatically stupid is pretty childish, especially when they're making legitimate statements about things. Not everyone has to like something, and not every person engaging in a discussion has to be in agreement with everyone else.

If someone else can provide a real reason for their perfectly reasonable opinion, something Trias and I have both been able to do during the course of this thread, saying they're stupid because you don't agree shows that the real stupid person in the conversation is you.

[OSO]

So if someone comes into a discussion thread about Metallica and has something negative to say, you should put thought into your posts instead of calling people stupid and acting like a little kid. Everyone has a right to an opinion, so claiming that people who disagree with you are automatically stupid is pretty childish, especially when they're making legitimate statements about things. Not everyone has to like something, and not every person engaging in a discussion has to be in agreement with everyone else.

If someone else can provide a real reason for their perfectly reasonable opinion, something Trias and I have both been able to do during the course of this thread, saying they're stupid because you don't agree shows that the real stupid person in the conversation is you.

I have already told you I don't care if you do or don't like metallica. by saying ''so'' to your fucking rants about who influenced who or what i'm simply saying that all of that is fucking worthless crap. it has nothing to do with metallica's ability to play music well. same goes for those other bands you named.

OK MR stupid you kept saying you where spewing facts but you just called it an opinion. look dude your little trivial knowledge on band and genre influence can be cool when you don't use it to fucking piss on a band you don't like. As i said before, you love megadeth and are blinded when it comes to metallica that is why i disregard your opinion because its just bias bull Shit.

[CalRahhh]

They just don't listen do they? :facepalm

[Audrey]

I didn't say a word about Megadeth during the course of this entire thread. I don't listen to their music, so I fail to see any bias I might have towards them over Metallica. I think you have me confused with someone else.

Besides, I was talking about the influence of certain bands due to someone else in this thread making a false claim that Metallica was the main influence on extreme metal, which funnily enough you tried to claim was incorrect and told me I couldn't prove, and I did that pretty easily.

I'm glad to see you posted something more than, "You're gay because you don't like Metallica," this time, though.

[OSO]

I didn't say a word about Megadeth during the course of this entire thread. I don't listen to their music, so I fail to see any bias I might have towards them over Metallica. I think you have me confused with someone else.

Besides, I was talking about the influence of certain bands due to someone else in this thread making a false claim that Metallica was the main influence on extreme metal, which funnily enough you tried to claim was incorrect and told me I couldn't prove, and I did that pretty easily.

I'm glad to see you posted something more than, "You're gay because you don't like Metallica," this time, though.

Yeah I had you confused with trais. hard to keep names straight when so many people don't like me ;). lol i said ''prove it'' to rile you up. don't care what metallica influenced, i love the music and that is that.

I don't have a lot of time to just sit here and post away I try to do what I can with the time I have.

[OSO]

They just don't listen do they? :facepalm

hey look its the emo. how are ya?

[CalRahhh]

hey look its the emo. how are ya?

Hang on, I've forgotten, exactly on what basis are you labelling me an emo?

[OSO]

Hang on, I've forgotten, exactly on what basis are you labelling me an emo?

Because I'm just messing with you.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

Yeah, aside from the fact that you said in singular fashion that they were the band who influenced extreme metal, not a band who influenced extreme metal, which is especially funny given the fact that they aren't very influential on it to begin with.As is my right. Take it how you will but clearly you're being a nitpicking prick for no reason at all, so you have no reason to defend against anything. So i must ask, why has this become an issue at all?

Metallica isn't the be-all end-all of metal, and they're definitely not the be-all end-all of thrash metal. They also haven't released anything that's really relevant to thrash as a whole in years.Never said they were. So you're putting words in my mouth again. And TBH i don't care that they aren't thrash anymore because everything they've done has been awesome in my eyes and they are legends in the metal scene, though they've moved on.

They still embody what metal is all about. Making the music you love and not giving a shit what anyone else thinks about you. Unlike all metal bands today that play the same fuckin' riffs again and again, Metallica has done what most could and can never do, progressed and changed. They got tired of the same crap again and again so they evolved.

If some can't deal with the fact that they're legends of metal and are so fuckin' cool they left the scene to do what they want, then fuck 'em.

[Purgatory]

Fuck, speaking of thrash metal, I'm gonna revive it so that this shitty brand people label as "metal" will stop.

[OSO]

http://metallica.com/index.asp?item=601167

cd version of cyanide. sounds waaaay better than the live version. vocals sound better. the riffs are catchy. the solo is ok. overall its an ok song.

[Jotun]

Sounds like a step in the right direction. Vocals will never be the same, James can get away with some lyrics, but ya.

Way better than St. Anger. I liked some songs from Load/Reload, it was a different sound. Black has like 2 songs I like and I fucking hate Enter Sandman.

What's with all the long ass songs though >_>

[OSO]

Mlahvvymkxc

[Cabbage Cabrera]

Cyanide is fuckin' awesome. :urahaha

Bass was a little underwhelming unlike the live version though...

And i saw the vid just mins. before i came to this thread and i love it.

[Audrey]

So i must ask, why has this become an issue at all?

I don't know. In order to figure that out, we'd have to have an answer from you about why you tried to say Trias was wrong for not enjoying a band that you like and why you overstated how influential they are to justify it. He presented a legitimate reason for disliking them.

It was clearly an issue before I even involved myself if you felt the need to claim that your personal enjoyment of something was more correct than someone else not enjoying it.

[OSO]

I don't know. In order to figure that out, we'd have to have an answer from you about why you tried to say Trias was wrong for not enjoying a band that you like and why you overstated how influential they are to justify it. He presented a legitimate reason for disliking them.

It was clearly an issue before I even involved myself if you felt the need to claim that your personal enjoyment of something was more correct than someone else not enjoying it.

not liking a band because its not ''influential'' enough is not a legitimate reason for not liking that band.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

I don't know. In order to figure that out, we'd have to have an answer from you about why you tried to say Trias was wrong for not enjoying a band that you like and why you overstated how influential they are to justify it. He presented a legitimate reason for disliking them.No, just no, as soon as you entered the debate Trias and mine debate was over. I never overstated shit, i said HELPED. Not they were the only ones, not they did it all themselves. I like Slayer and believe they had as big a hand as Metallica did in creating Thrash as a whole and influencing bands to come.

It was clearly an issue before I even involved myself if you felt the need to claim that your personal enjoyment of something was more correct than someone else not enjoying it.My opinion. That's all it was, you felt the need to come and create a whole new arguement.

Please stop, you look like a fool now as your attempts to discredit me are irrelevant and only becoming more desperate. :urahaha

[Purgatory]

The video for the single is officially released via metallica.com

[Steven Pinhead]

If you think it's crap, I dare you to play My Apocalypse..or try to. Unless you've been in a band for 20+ years, then shut the fuck up.

Dude... there isn't much to any Metallica song.

[Audrey]

I like Slayer and believe they had as big a hand as Metallica did in creating Thrash as a whole and influencing bands to come.

Oh, you mean both bands had little to none since thrash metal was well-established before either band even formed, right?

Please stop, you look like a fool now as your attempts to discredit me are irrelevant and only becoming more desperate. :urahaha

Haha, wow. That's gold. I don't need to discredit anyone who makes obviously opinionated statements that are grossly incorrect. They do it on their own. I'm pretty much done with you anyway, since you clearly know pretty much nothing about thrash metal or metal in general since you think Metallica helped create it when it was around for years and years before they recorded any albums.

not liking a band because its not ''influential'' enough is not a legitimate reason for not liking that band.

That's not the reason Trias doesn't like their music, nor is it the reason I don't like their music.

Trias doesn't like them because of the fact that they lack the level of technical musicianship displayed by their peers and other metal bands that he enjoys, the fact that Lars Ulrich is a pretty subpar drummer who edits his drum tracks in studio and has admitted it in interviews and of course the fact that they obviously softened their music over time.

I dislike them for some of the same reasons as him, though technicality doesn't really play into it, and because of the fact that their songs don't contain a real lot of depth compared to a lot of other metal bands that I'd rather listen to.

I'm only posting here because of the fact that it's funny that Metallica fans can't do much more than call people stupid names and say their opinions, and often factual statements, are wrong because they aren't Metallica fans.

[Audrey]

If you think it's crap, I dare you to play My Apocalypse..or try to. Unless you've been in a band for 20+ years, then shut the fuck up.

Compared to a lot of other metal bands, Metallica's songs aren't very complex or hard to play. They were mostly above average musicians when they were in their prime, but there's other bands who play circles around them. He was also talking about the production quality, not the music, so try to make your comment relevant if possible.

[OSO]

Oh, you mean both bands had little to none since thrash metal was well-established before either band even formed, right?



Haha, wow. That's gold. I don't need to discredit anyone who makes obviously opinionated statements that are grossly incorrect. They do it on their own. I'm pretty much done with you anyway, since you clearly know pretty much nothing about thrash metal or metal in general since you think Metallica helped create it when it was around for years and years before they recorded any albums.



That's not the reason Trias doesn't like their music, nor is it the reason I don't like their music.

Trias doesn't like them because of the fact that they lack the level of technical musicianship displayed by their peers and other metal bands that he enjoys, the fact that Lars Ulrich is a pretty subpar drummer who edits his drum tracks in studio and has admitted it in interviews and of course the fact that they obviously softened their music over time.

I dislike them for some of the same reasons as him, though technicality doesn't really play into it, and because of the fact that their songs don't contain a real lot of depth compared to a lot of other metal bands that I'd rather listen to.

I'm only posting here because of the fact that it's funny that Metallica fans can't do much more than call people stupid names and say their opinions, and often factual statements, are wrong because they aren't Metallica fans.


man Audrey you make me laugh, you take music a lot more serious then it should be taken. when it comes to my musical taste and opinion i don't get caught up on all that stuff you just mentioned. yeah sure sometimes what a song means can make it or break it for me. if it makes me feel good and it sounds good in my head then i like it. I like to keep things simple.

While it is true that Lars isn't a great drummer it doesn't stop me from enjoying their great music. I don't like how this thread went from a discussion of the new album to all this crap.
Metallica progressed and play what they wanna play. the bands that after 20 years keep putting out the same stuff over and over again get stale and old.

all metallica fans aren't stupid . a few are but that is true for most bands.
oh and by ''depth'' what do you mean? you can't tel me James and Kirk are mediocre and actually believe it.

[Purgatory]

Dude... there isn't much to any Metallica song.

"Dude", Try to play Escape from Ride The Lightning then, I dare ya, if ya got the cajuntes.

Compared to a lot of other metal bands, Metallica's songs aren't very complex or hard to play. They were mostly above average musicians when they were in their prime, but there's other bands who play circles around them. He was also talking about the production quality, not the music, so try to make your comment relevant if possible.

The first four albums would like to speak to you.

[OSO]

"Dude", Try to play Escape from Ride The Lightning then, I dare ya, if ya got the cajuntes.



The first four albums would like to speak to you.

man PK we must share some brain cells or something. I immediately thought of Escape when he said no depth.

[Audrey]

oh and by ''depth'' what do you mean? you can't tel me James and Kirk are mediocre and actually believe it.

Depth refering to bands with much more subtlety who play much more advanced songs that have way more pieces and layers than anything by Metallica. Metallica's songs aren't necessarily poorly written, nor did I say they were bad musicians, but they don't write songs that the type of arrangements that I find interesting.

The first four albums would like to speak to you.

Whether Metallica's first four albums want to admit it, there's bands with much more complex, fast and hard to play music and much more technically advanced songwriting and arrangements. So while I can't play what Metallica plays, nor have I made any claim to be able to, there's bands who make Metallica's songs look pretty easy, and even people on YouTube successfully play quite a few of Metallica's songs, including the guitar solos.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

Whether Metallica's first four albums want to admit it, there's bands with much more complex, fast and hard to play music and much more technically advanced songwriting and arrangements. So while I can't play what Metallica plays, nor have I made any claim to be able to, there's bands who make Metallica's songs look pretty easy, and even people on YouTube successfully play quite a few of Metallica's songs, including the guitar solos.Hence why most of those bands suck live (see DragonForce). When shit becomes too complex you lose the simplistic bliss music brings. Instead of saying, "Yeah, that shit made me feel -insert random emotion-" fans now say "Yeah, that solo was so complex i like how he -insert random guitar trick-". It becomes a bland, overdone, copypasta song that's been heard before.

Audrey, stop, please stop. There's no way you can convince anyone, or even back your statements, that Metallica sucks. You have no evidence save for dumbasses on youtube being able to do Kirk's solos (horribly i might add). Which isn't saying much.:urahaha

This debate's been long over and your attempts have been beaten down.

/debate

[Audrey]

I never said Metallica sucks. I said I don't like them. You're trying too hard.

By the way, DragonForce wasn't one of the bands I was talking about, because they suck pretty hard and their music is almost all stupid power chords played at a speed that they can't match outside of the studio.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

I never said Metallica sucks. I said I don't like them. You're trying too hard.From what i've witnessed that's not the case, otherwise you wouldn't have brought up retarded youtubites that suck at playing Metallica songs. If that's not meant to be a malicious statement i don't know what is. :laugh

By the way, DragonForce wasn't one of the bands I was talking about, because they suck pretty hard and their music is almost all stupid power chords played at a speed that they can't match outside of the studio.I was just using them as an example. I didn't mean to say that you did. Sorry 'bout that.

[KLoWn]

Listening to DM right now and goddamn, i love it.
It's fuckin awesome and im only at the second track.

[Purgatory]

Whether Metallica's first four albums want to admit it, there's bands with much more complex, fast and hard to play music and much more technically advanced songwriting and arrangements. So while I can't play what Metallica plays, nor have I made any claim to be able to, there's bands who make Metallica's songs look pretty easy, and even people on YouTube successfully play quite a few of Metallica's songs, including the guitar solos.

Oh yes, because that makes ALOT of sense. Because apparently you have to have music that's more complex. Otherwise it sucks. Let me tell you something, Audrey, there's a documentary on Thrash Metal called "Get Thrashed!" where one member of a thrash band said that there were bands like them that couldn't pull off shit like Van Halen or something from the New Wave, so a new way was invented with punk rock with a taste of new wave called..THRASH. Just because it's simple doesn't make it unique in its own way. Hell, I admit even after three years of guitar, I can't play any real complicated shit, but the riffs I make up are good in their own way. Just because you call it "simple" doesn't make it "easy".

[Lord Yu]

Audrey, I think it's best to give up. Its overwhelmingly apparent that these guys idea of a debate is throwing strawmen everywhere.

[Purgatory]

Audrey, I think it's best to give up. Its overwhelmingly apparent that these guys idea of a debate is throwing strawmen everywhere.

Oh look, if it isn't another thrash hater.

[Steven Pinhead]

"Dude", Try to play Escape from Ride The Lightning then, I dare ya, if ya got the cajuntes.

I hate that people use how well you can play other peoples' songs as a measure of your musicianship.

Besides, the hardest song in the world could be played note for note after a lot of practice. You're not exactly asking that I do much except mindlessly drill tabs I read on the net.

"dude"? What is that, a crack at my gender or something? Real mature.

[Audrey]

I'd still like to see Metallica try to play something like Gorguts or Cynic, or even newer Deathspell Omega, since I guarantee any one of those bands could learn to play Metallica without even breaking a sweat.

I don't hate thrash metal, and I doubt Yu hates thrash metal either. Speaking of Yu, I'm going to have to agree with his strawman comment, and take my leave now since I'm clearly not incorrect and I've clearly managed to make people mad on the internet with conflicting opinions and facts.

Yu, you should log into MSN more, too. :X3

[Purgatory]

I hate that people use how well you can play other peoples' songs as a measure of your musicianship.

Besides, the hardest song in the world could be played note for note after a lot of practice. You're not exactly asking that I do much except mindlessly drill tabs I read on the net.

"dude"? What is that, a crack at my gender or something? Real mature.

Just proves you're not gonna play it, meaning you're chickening out.

I'd still like to see Metallica try to play something like Gorguts or Cynic, or even newer Deathspell Omega, since I guarantee any one of those bands could learn to play Metallica without even breaking a sweat.

I don't hate thrash metal, and I doubt Yu hates thrash metal either. Speaking of Yu, I'm going to have to agree with his strawman comment, and take my leave now since I'm clearly not incorrect and I've clearly managed to make people mad on the internet with conflicting opinions and facts.

Yu, you should log into MSN more, too. :X3

This has nothing to do with them, but moreso you. And if you don't hate thrash metal, then what do you think of DRI?

[OSO]

Depth refering to bands with much more subtlety who play much more advanced songs that have way more pieces and layers than anything by Metallica. Metallica's songs aren't necessarily poorly written, nor did I say they were bad musicians, but they don't write songs that the type of arrangements that I find interesting.



Whether Metallica's first four albums want to admit it, there's bands with much more complex, fast and hard to play music and much more technically advanced songwriting and arrangements. So while I can't play what Metallica plays, nor have I made any claim to be able to, there's bands who make Metallica's songs look pretty easy, and even people on YouTube successfully play quite a few of Metallica's songs, including the guitar solos.

lol those bands sound like shit live. sound good in studio can't replicate it live. if you want layers and shit don't come in here and talk about thrash. go start a symphony orchestra thread. thread.

[KLoWn]

"The Unforgiven 3" was a disappointment, it wasn't nearly as good as the other two, not saying that it was bad though, i just expected alot more from it.
In fact, they've could've just named this song something else and go with that cuz it didn't sound anything like the other two songs.

"All Nightmare Long" made up for it though, that song is wicked.

[Purgatory]

"The Unforgiven 3" was a disappointment, it wasn't nearly as good as the other two, not saying that it was bad though, i just expected alot more from it.
In fact, they've could've just named this song something else and go with that cuz it didn't sound anything like the other two songs.

"All Nightmare Long" made up for it though, that song is wicked.

At least Unforgiven III didn't go all country on us like II did.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

Finally we got rid of the main portion of faggots.

So i must ask, Klown, have you listened to the whole album? I haven't been able to find it, is it leaked yet?

[Purgatory]

The album can't be leaked, lest we face the wrath of Lars Von Assfucker

[KLoWn]

Finally we got rid of the main portion of faggots.

So i must ask, Klown, have you listened to the whole album? I haven't been able to find it, is it leaked yet?
Yeah i got the whole album, some french store started selling it by accident lol

Here it is
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UITE5DN4

*Edit*
"Suicide & Redemption" = Goddamn Win.

[CalRahhh]

Well it has :zaru

I'm downloading it now, Im gonna check if its the proper album and everything. If it is I'll let you know and anyone who wants the link just ask me and I'll PM it to you.

EDIT: Too late. Klown got there first. ah well

[Cabbage Cabrera]

I trust KLoWn enough to DL it. I tried to resist the urge to and just wait for the album to comeout but i can't.

[OSO]

ok guys I'm downloading it. is it the actual album?

[Cabbage Cabrera]

Yeah it is.

[CalRahhh]

Opener That Was Just Your Life was pretty cool. Sounded like a mix between AJFA style and Load.

[OSO]

ok i'll come back when i listen to the whole album. its only 128 kps. gotta wait for 320 i guess.

[Purgatory]

Yeah i got the whole album, some french store started selling it by accident lol

Here it is
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UITE5DN4

*Edit*
"Suicide & Redemption" = Goddamn Win.

In b4 Lars.

YouTube that shit, son

[Cabbage Cabrera]

Diggin' it so far and i'm on Broken, Beat and Scarred. Definitely fits the AJFA/TBA mix they said it would have.

[OSO]

man first song is awesome! solo is pretty effin sweet

[Felix]

Yeah i got the whole album, some french store started selling it by accident lol

Here it is
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UITE5DN4

*Edit*
"Suicide & Redemption" = Goddamn Win.

What is the bitrate of those encodes?

[CalRahhh]

Broken, Beat & Scarred = win

Still not liking The Day That Never Comes though.

[Felix]

I'm enjoying The Day That Never Comes alot
Enough to warrant it on repeat, which is strange for me
Maybe it's because it's new and stuff. I don't know, after the 5:00 mark it just gets into my ear

[KLoWn]

What is the bitrate of those encodes?
128, there's supposed to be a 320 out/on it's way, but i couldn't find it.

[OSO]

well klown if you do let me know

[Felix]

well klown if you do let me know

+1 .

[Steven Pinhead]

Just proves you're not gonna play it, meaning you're chickening out.

All I said was Metallica isn't that hard to play. I love their music. Half the music I like can be played by monkeys. Stop taking them so seriously.

This has nothing to do with them, but moreso you. And if you don't hate thrash metal, then what do you think of DRI?

I'll just toss in that DRI would be listenable if their lyrics weren't horrible.

[Purgatory]

Damn you, WHY MUST YOU TAUNT AND TEASE ME!?

All I said was Metallica isn't that hard to play. I love their music. Half the music I like can be played by monkeys. Stop taking them so seriously.

Liking/hating isn't the point here.

I'll just toss in that DRI would be listenable if their lyrics weren't horrible.

First Metallica, now DRI? So what if they have hardcore punkrock lyrics?

[Steven Pinhead]

First Metallica, now DRI? So what if they have hardcore punkrock lyrics?

That isn't the problem at all. It's that they have bad hardcore punk lyrics.

[CalRahhh]

Found 320kbs link. Sending to Felix and OSO now.

[OSO]

thanks skeksis. man this album blew me away. met my expectations then kicked its pussy little ass with an aluminum bat and then rape stomped its ass!

man Audrey that's the second neg rep i have gotten from you in this thread alone. you must really not like me. lol

[CalRahhh]

Highlight for me was Broken, Beat & Scarred. Though this definately did blow my expectations. Not album of the year by a long shot, but definately not the shit fest that St. Anger was.

[Jotun]

Damn All Nightmare Long D:

Unforgiven III was pretty meh
Digging the AJFA feel. Can also hear some Loadish vocals.

Friends are making fun of me for liking this album D:

[CalRahhh]

I didn't think All Nightmare Long was that great :/

[Jotun]

It could have been shorter, but I like it alot for some reason.

I am finding alot of these songs have filler tossed on the end lol

[KLoWn]

Found 320kbs link. Sending to Felix and OSO now.
Could i have it too? :swtf

Btw, is it confirmed that this version is the real 320-version and not the one which had the same quality as the 128-version?

[CalRahhh]

I have not tested it myself, one of the others will have to confirm for you. I will send it to you anyways.

EDIT: The links are dead now, it was taken down :( sorry.

[Felix]

Well no problem Skesis, we will end up finding another 320 kbps source

[Dr. Obvious]

Sounds pretty good so far, I'm in the middle of Cyanide. I was happy that they stuck that middle riff from the first new song into All Nightmare Long, I fucking loved that part.

Edit: I fucking loved The Judas Kiss, hearing James yell "I've become your new god, now!" or whatever it was was the coolest thing I've heard in a long time.

[Purgatory]

Music video for TDTNC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYBtn4CwjMc

That isn't the problem at all. It's that they have bad hardcore punk lyrics.

So? Are you calling S.O.D.'s "Speak English or Die"'s lyrics "bad"?

[OSO]

Mlahvvymkxc



AHEM.......

[Purgatory]

..What? .....

[OSO]

I posted it like three pages back.

[Purgatory]

I didn't see it.

[OSO]

its cool ;)

[Dr. Obvious]

Holy shit, at very shortly after 6:15 into S&R, somebody says something. i'm too drunk to clip it out and flip it around and put it on youtube with a comparison to the original, otherwise i'd be posting a link. can anybody figure out what's being said?

[clint999]

It was ok, like the other song they released. Seems like it'll be an ok album, nothing special, if all the songs are like this.

[Jotun]

Holy shit, at very shortly after 6:15 into S&R, somebody says something. i'm too drunk to clip it out and flip it around and put it on youtube with a comparison to the original, otherwise i'd be posting a link. can anybody figure out what's being said?

It's the guitar lol

S&R I don't like the first 3 minutes. Love the song after those 3 mins tho. Cyanide and Unforgiven III seem to be the weakest links. I really like how James does the lyrics for All Nightmare Long.

Maybe it's just my bad hearing, but does anyone else think the bass was kinda lacking in some of the songs?

That video for The Day That Never Comes is pretty corny/lame imo >_>

[Felix]

I'm pretty pleased with this new album
Color me happy

[manos87]

been listening to it over and over and will be listening to it over and over. It's exactly what I need :)

[Dr. Obvious]

It's the guitar lol

No it isn't. From roughly 6:15 to 6:20, that's a human, and it's talking. Take another listen. My ears can't discern it, whether I play it forwards or backwards.

[KLoWn]

Maybe it's just my bad hearing, but does anyone else think the bass was kinda lacking in some of the songs?
Well they did say that they were going for the AJFA sound :zaru

[Purgatory]

Well they did say that they were going for the AJFA sound :zaru

Oh snap! :zaru

[Felix]

Yes, AJFA had a complete absence of bass as well (Well, it was there, but it followed the main guitar closely)

Jesus, Suicide & Redemption is growing as one of my favorite Metallica songs

[Jotun]

No it isn't. From roughly 6:15 to 6:20, that's a human, and it's talking. Take another listen. My ears can't discern it, whether I play it forwards or backwards.

You talking about the wahwah?

And ya, love the whole jam session/instrumental.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

The bass has always been pretty low in the mix, even on the first 3 albums.

[Purgatory]

Well, I've illegally listened to pretty much all of the songs on YouTube and I gotta say...'Tallica is truly back. I mean, come on, who doesn't like the Judas Kiss? Suicide & Redemption? The End of the Line? Seriously, most of those songs just definitely remind me of Justice (mostly Suicide & Redemption). The only gripe I have is that they didn't use the holy revolver riffs/lyrics, which sucks, but at least they used the bow down shit. Some of the songs I listened to I can feel James straining his voice somewhat to get back to the old way of singing, which amazes me how he can still pull it off.

Hell, this album is DEFINITELY better than United Abominations.

[Blackheart17]

...I'm, for lack of a better word, fucking speechless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puQeXKGLJjY

The intro is fucking amazing, and so is the whole song. This will probably be on my top 5 metallica albums. I'm most likely going to their Nov. 6 show in Omaha, Nebraska.

[Purgatory]

I hope I can go to the show in Uniondale on January.

[KLoWn]

Im hearing that "The Day That Never Comes" get's alot of shit, can't understand why, i think that song is fuckin epic, especially the calm part of the song.

[Felix]

I'm in love with the album to be honest

Suicide and Redemption and The Day That Never Comes... <3

[Purgatory]

Im hearing that "The Day That Never Comes" get's alot of shit, can't understand why, i think that song is fuckin epic, especially the calm part of the song.

People expected it to be another Fade to Black, Sanitarium, or One.

[Cabbage Cabrera]

All Nightmare Long is fuckin' godwin. That song kicks so much ass!

[OSO]

I hope I can go to the show in Uniondale on January.

you from NY? me too! I'm going to the one in Fresno and if I'm back home in time I'll go to either the Newark one or uniondale.

[Purgatory]

you from NY? me too! I'm going to the one in Fresno and if I'm back home in time I'll go to either the Newark one or uniondale.

I'm not from the city though.

[OSO]

I'm not from the city though.

Me neither I'm from the west side of the state, farmington 20 minutes outside of rochester.

[Purgatory]

Me neither I'm from the west side of the state, farmington 20 minutes outside of rochester.

It'd take me 4-5 hours to get to the city...and then there's the problem of what's IN the city.

[OSO]

It'd take me 4-5 hours to get to the city...and then there's the problem of what's IN the city.

You must live near me then. yeah I have been to the city its no big deal.

[Voodoo chile]

I've now listened to the album too.
At the moment I'd rank it near the top 3 Metallica albums.
It's boring that here where I live I'm pretty much the only Metallica fan. And even more so the only one who likes the new album.
Sometimes I wish I was born in another time and another continent...

[Purgatory]

You must live near me then. yeah I have been to the city its no big deal.

Even with that gang bullshit?

[Santoryu]

Pretty good album, decent riffs, nice solos. I actually like the Unforgiven III better then the Day that Never Comes, even though it has little similarity to the other Unforgivens (except maybe the lyrics)

[KLoWn]

The Unforgiven 3 is actually starting to grow on me, it's still kinda meh compared to most of the songs on the album, but it's getting better.

[OSO]

Even with that gang bullshit?

tae kwon do and boxing for 11 plus years...I',m not worried a single bit.

[Purgatory]

tae kwon do and boxing for 11 plus years...I',m not worried a single bit.

Even if those damn darkies got weapons?

[OSO]

Even if those damn darkies got weapons?

well I wouldn't do anything stupid to get shot or stabbed. I'm just not scared I have been to the city plenty even out at night and nothing bad has ever happened.

[Akatora]

Overall they seem to be back, though I'm not liking what I've heard as much as my old favorites yet.

Judas Kiss sound really good at times, but at others it's not as good, but this is studio version and a better version is on it's way :D

[Purgatory]

well I wouldn't do anything stupid to get shot or stabbed. I'm just not scared I have been to the city plenty even out at night and nothing bad has ever happened.

Take me with you.

[Twizted]

Not to interrupt the fun but I just finished listening to DM. I have to say I'm impressed. This blows Load, Reload, SA, and now Black out of the water in my mind. The question is now where does it rank amongst the greats. I'm loving it.

[Nomeru]

I'm gunna be going to see Metallica when they visit seattle december first :D

[Twizted]

I'm jealous. I need to grab tickets next time they come out east.

[Nomeru]

Well tickets aren't on sale here yet, I just wish they werent $100...(not all of them are, but I want the best tickets I can get..)

[OSO]

Take me with you.
I'f i'm back home in time sure i don't care. how far do you live from canandaigua?

[Purgatory]

I'f i'm back home in time sure i don't care. how far do you live from canandaigua?

I..have no clue, but perhaps you could also get me a chick too? :awesome

[Felix]

Now I'm hooked to "The End of the Line"

Judas Kiss is starting to grown more and more on me as well

Yup, this Album is solid. Very solid

[Twizted]

All Nightmare Long is just a beast of a song. I'm fucking pumped about this album right now.

[CrazyMoronX]

Metallica, eh? I haven't heard anything from then since Breadfan.

[Koi]

I heard a bunch of tracks the other night with Dave Grohl and Taylor Hawkins were interiewing the band. Really good stuff. I think "All Nightmare Long" was my favorite, out of the ones they played. Kinda fucking awesome.

[Purgatory]

Metallica, eh? I haven't heard anything from then since Breadfan.

I lol'ed, Breadfan is a cover song they did on Garage, Inc.

[Twizted]

Yeah, well it's probably best he didn't hear St. Anger.

@ CMX: You should def. pick up Death Magnetic. It's their best since at least Black, and the more I hear the more I think it's a better album. It's certainly a better Metal album.

[OSO]

I..have no clue, but perhaps you could also get me a chick too? :awesome


well then how far are you from Rochester or buffalo? black, white, or brown? maybe yellow?

[Purgatory]

well then how far are you from Rochester or buffalo? black, white, or brown? maybe yellow?

By colors you mean like..colors of the chick?

[OSO]

By colors you mean like..colors of the chick?

yeah!!!!!!!!

[CrazyMoronX]

Is that right? I'm going to upset them by downloading it from the Internet. :nuts

[OSO]

Is that right? I'm going to upset them by downloading it from the Internet. :nuts

Quote from Lars on the album being leaked ''oh happy days, we are fine with it and don't really care''