Most Heartbreaking Death [ Possible Spoilers ]

[Rurushu]

So now that we come to another death in the Code Geass series,lets discuss which death was the most heartbreaking,the death of Euphemia or Shirley?
Discuss.

[Watchman]

I'd say Euphemia's. Because the goal she'd been working towards, which was working, all fell apart due to the accident-Geass, and her memory was forever tainted as the Massacre Princess. It also had the side effect of making Japanese views towards Britannia even more negative.

Put simply, Euphemia was more important in status than Shirley - Shirley's death was probably as touching on a personal level to her friends, but Euphemia's had far wider implications.

[xpto]

They were equally heartbreaking.

[Teleq]

Euphemia's death was a shock, but Shirley's was sadder. When Euphie died I was somewhat sad but thinking "awesome plot move", but with Shirley right now I'm just... nooooooo...:cry

[Ema Skye]

Both :cry

But if I had to choose one death over the other it will be Euphemia :scry
Her death is more tragic because she died believing she did some good with Japan and everything worked out in the end but in reality she is a disgrace to (almost) everyone and calling her the 'Massacre Princess'. I don't think anybody wants do die like that. :(

[Lucius]

shirley. but only if i don't look at the whole picture. just the interaction with lelouch and how lelouch reacted with his geass "don't die" and then the final with the scream. i think it was better then euphy's last sentences.

euphy's death had a greater impact to the CG "world" but shirly's death has a greater impact on lelouch. and considering lelouch is 90% of what makes code geass what it is..

[Lo$tris]

I will go for shirely, cuz of the way Lulu cried and kept geass(ing) her. And her last words were sad.

[Mider T]

Euphemia, because of the ending song that came after her death and the fact that he was more of major accident

[Diceman]

Hard to decide;
Euphie:Lelouch accidentaly geassed her,got her name smeared,made Suzaku and Cornelia go a bit insane,was Lelouchs first love
Shirley:was murdered,will make Lelouch go batshit.
I'd say Shirley,dunno why

[Byxa]

Shirley, simply because i liked her more.

[Black Wraith]

Euphie.

Because of the way everything happened before her execution.

[son_michael]

I guess euphie....but its really close




btw am I the onyl 1 who's grossed out by that pic of euphie with her eye's runing makeup because of her tears?


ewww this is why I dont like too much makeup on women,in comparison look how nice shirley looks when she dies

[Sin]

I have to say, it feels like the Shirley fans are riding Episode 13 for all it's worth.

With that said, I'll go with Euphemia. Euphy's death had a huge impact, and it affected a much larger number of characters, hell, the entire country (Area 11) went back to hating the Britannian's because of the "genocide queen".

Shirley's death was very well handled, but at best, it will only affect her direct connections, and the really heavy impact is at best limited to 3-4 characters.

Euphy's death changed a lot of things, I can't really see Shirley's death giving us more than Lulu going "EMO RAWR" for a couple of eps.

I could be proven wrong, but that's what I'm getting.

[The Cheat]

Euphie's death is obviously more tragic and has more impact on the show ,it deepened the rivalary between suzaku and lelouch, it was an accident, whats even more sad was that her idea would have worked and the saddest part that her memory was tainted. She was a very sweet girl but now the japanese think she was a tyrant.

[Drcow]

Most heartbreaking death for me is Shirley since i even shed a tear and had goosebumps all over when Lelouch gave that epic finishing touch on it.

Euphie death was for me more like * jaw smacks the ground* WTF they actually did this... thats some balls of steel! Wasnt expecting that. And offcourse i dont like Suzaku and seeing his crying face i actually smiling a bit... looked so stupid for me :nuts

[Fleecy]

Well... Both were sad, but they carried a different sadness for me.

Euphie's was horrific and shudderingly tragic. I mean she was Geass'd to do something she would never do, and went out in the most gruesome fashion. Massacring many people ruins her name completely, and its long term effects make everyone who doesn't know the truth hate her. But the clincher was that she asked if she had succeeded in making peace and everyone happy, when she did exactly the opposite. Suzaku had to lie to her, and she died with that happy lie without knowing she killed all those people. That's just sad in a very sick and twisted way.

On the other hand, I liked the way Shirley's death was done "better." I mean, the music and the love brought forth was what mainly separated Shirley's death from Euphie's. While Euphie was concerned about everyone and if she did the right thing, Shirley focused on Lelouch and her love for him as an individual. That brought things to a more personal level, and the fact that she was aware of everything (while Euphie was not) made me sympathize with what she went through. The sheer emotion and truth she put into her repeated words, like a poem was especially beautiful: "No matter how many times I'm reborn, I'll fall in love with you again. Always, I'll fall in love with you. I'll fall in love with you. I'll fall in love with you." It sounded so powerful to me, and of course Lelouch trying to force her to not die three times even though it wouldn't work was gut wrenching.

The scene with Euphie was terrifying. It gave me more of a shock factor, and the murder was seen. But the problem with that was that, though Lelouch was obviously sad, there was little emotion in his voice when he shot her, and we just saw her slowly falling down. The scene with Shirley was a discovery, where Lelouch found her already dying. He had a desperation to keep her alive, rather than an intentional killing for Euphie to stop her. That made it sadder to me.

I guess in short you could say that Euphie's death scared me more, and it was extremely yet grotesquely angelic at how much blood of other people and her own was stained on her body. With Shirley, the blood was her own. An angel of innocence and a human of love. Simply put, when watching Euphie's death, I only cried twice (if I happened to repeat watching it), but when watching Shirley's death, I cry every single time I see it.

[Somnus]

Euphie's death had more drama, she just wanted to make peace and because of a mistake, her brother was forced to kill her, and her name was tainted while she died thinking she did the right thing.

[Jetstorm]

Euphemia's death in almost every category. Shirley's death felt like it was just thrown in there as a last minute decision and will only affect a few things. Euphemia altered things on a massive scale and it was far more touching to me than Shirley's death.

[Toffeeman]

Shirley's was sadder.

Euphie's was more tragic.

[Tyrannos]

I'm with Toffeeman.

Shirley's Death is more Heartbreaking for she realized no matter how many times she was reborn, she always fell in love with Lelouch. Even if he was responsible for killing her father.

Euphy's Death is more Tragic because of the accidential Geassing and her being force to kill the Japanese.

[The Cheat]

I'm with Toffeeman.

Shirley's Death is more Heartbreaking for she realized no matter how many times she was reborn, she always fell in love with Lelouch. Even if he was responsible for killing her father.

Euphy's Death is more Tragic because of the accidential Geassing and her being force to kill the Japanese.

Yeah, but she also knew that her father's death was an accident which was why she was able to forivve him.

[Blaze of Glory]

Euphemia's death: Overdramatic bullshit bound to happen :zaru further plot and the whole reason behind Suzaku's mental retardation. There was nothing heartbreaking since the aftermath behind it is terrible. She had no future and had she lived she'd been as cheesy and lame as the Disney princesses

Shirley's death: Uncalled for , unnecessary the one person in the whole series who truly wants to know Lelouch, help him achieve his goals and be apart of his life she forgave him for his wrong doing while certain other idiot *cough* *cough* Suzaku *cough* *cough* didn't because she understood what he was trying to do and support him.

Not only that but I don't give a shit about chicks who don't make the animation better when looking at them

i.e. Bouncing boobies :dupe

:drool

[The Cheat]

Euphemia's death: Overdramatic bullshit bound to happen :zaru further plot and the whole reason behind Suzaku's mental retardation. There was nothing heartbreaking since the aftermath behind it is terrible. She had no future and had she lived she'd been as cheesy and lame as the Disney princesses

Shirley's death: Uncalled for , unnecessary the one person in the whole series who truly wants to know Lelouch, help him achieve his goals and be apart of his life she forgave him for his wrong doing while certain other idiot *cough* *cough* Suzaku *cough* *cough* didn't because she understood what he was trying to do and support him.

Not only that but I don't give a shit about chicks who don't make the animation better when looking at them

i.e. Bouncing boobies :dupe

:drool

She only forave him because it was an accident , suzaku probaly didn't know euphie dieing was an accident.

[Graham Aker]

Both are as heartbreaking as the deaths of those men, Lelouch Geass'd to shoot themselves in episode 1.

Though I'll vote for Euphie anyway, I did get pissed off at Lelouch and C.C. for fucking everything up. Didn't break my heart but close.
While I guffawed at Shirley' pathetic death.

[Tunafish]

Shirley's death.
Being able to forgive someone for those crimes, especially the death of a family member, all because of love for him is some powerful shit. And since Lelouch had a more drastic reaction to it just added to the moment.

But I think both deaths even the score, since both Lelouch and Suzaku have lost a babe each that they both cared about.

[Blaze of Glory]

She only forave him because it was an accident , suzaku probaly didn't know euphie dieing was an accident.

Yes, but before she died, she gave an awesome moral so well that not even Spiderman 3 could spell out well.

Forgiveness :zaru

Something she tried to bury in that empty head of his before she died.

Not only that but because she was able to quickly forgive Lelouch unlike Suzaku either who still blames him to this very day and can't even sit back and enjoy a laugh when speaking about even the smallest of things. That doesn't require you to hug on each other. Even if someone did something on accident to me I'd find a way in my heart to forgive them. Euphie's death is hardly emotionally impacting she and Suzaku got to spend practically everyday Lelouch was torn between his duties Zero and a student and she loved him in season one and forgot about him in season two and her feelings were hard to consumate as well. If he was busy fucking up Britannia.

So yes, it's her with the most impacting death.

[LelouchlovesShirley]

I have to say both were very sad. I went back to the episode where Euphie died and it wasn't as dramatic as Shirley. Lelouch was upset that Euphie had to die but he didn't cry about it.
With Shirley he was heartbroken and showed it by crying his eyes out and screaming to the top of his lungs. He tried to save her by his geass about 4 times. It's so sad it didn't work. SO I think shilrey's death was the most tragic.
I'm not sure what will happen next. I really hope they bring Shirley back somehow. Maybe there is a geass user that can bring back the lost! I really hope there is or maybe C.C can save her somehow and Lulu will be able to reunite with her in the end. Maybe? :)

[Fleecy]

Not only that but because she was able to quickly forgive Lelouch unlike Suzaku either who still blames him to this very day and can't even sit back and enjoy a laugh when speaking about even the smallest of things. That doesn't require you to hug on each other. Even if someone did something on accident to me I'd find a way in my heart to forgive them.

Lol maybe the reason Suzaku didn't forgive him as easily as Shirley was because Suzaku wasn't madly in love with Lelouch while Shirley was. :zaru

[Rukia]

Shirley's was actually sadder for me. I voted for Euphemia though. Euphemia's death almost seems more tragic since her reputation/name were tarnished as well.

[Jaded Heart]

Definitely Euphemia's death. She had her good and respectable reputation torn apart. That, and the fact that one of the people she cared for the most was the very person who took her life.

There is still no doubt that Shirley's death was sad as well.

[Souten Kishun]

It's all about the spoilers for me :notrust I knew Shirley's death was coming so the moment it did, I didn't have as huge a reaction as I would have (It was still huge though :sag).

I had no idea Euphie's was coming so that made it MUCH more powerful.


Euphie's makes me bawww when I watch it.

Shirley's has caused a lingering sadness. Not to mention, I've had trouble sleeping because her death scene is so haunting (Lelouch finding her laying in a pool of blood :cry).

When I watch Euphie's, tears just start pouring out.

When I watch Shirley's, I get those stricken "Lelouch faces" and have dry fits where tears don't come, but I'm still cough-crying.


They're just too different.


But in the end.. I'm with xpto. They were equally heartbreaking because they were both girls who didn't deserve to die the ways they did.

[Ausar]

Voted for Euphy...

After everything that she went through with trying to help things, she's accidentally turned into a murderous psychopath by Lelouch and destroys all that which she worked to create...

She was the kindest person to ever grace the show and to see something like that happen to someone like her...was very, very hurtful...

Not to mention that she was the sole person who could "overstand" Suzaku's motives and support him....as a Suzaku fan, this made her death, and the circumstances how it occurred, that much more painful. :(

[Rukia]

Urabe! :cry

[Graham Aker]

^Now that was heartbreaking. A bad ass and selfless death > bunch of idiot girls getting shot.

[Sin]

I guess "heartbreaking" only applies if you actually liked Shirley.

Personally, when i read about her death, I was happy :zaru

When I got spoiled about Euphy's death, I was "=O"

[Diceman]

Urabe! :cry

Well he actually died fighting(against a hax Geass user),he died a good death.It's not that sad,really
The old guy from the Shiseiken death was more tragic.Walking around,and bang!Gino speared him:cry

[Rurushu]

Darlton's death was actually quite epic,he speared Cornelia right in the chest of her Knightmare,and then got obliterated by the Gawain's Hydro Cannon.

[faults]

Shirley's definitely had more of an impact on my than Euphemia's probably because of the way they died and because of where they stood with Zero. Since I support Lelouch/Zero, I was sad that the only way to fix the mistake he caused with Euphemia was to end up killing her, but with Shirley, I'd say she was becoming something more and more to him as the episodes began to progress. He wanted her safety at the most and was willing to entrust Suzaku with her as long as she was safe and she was willing to do w/e it took to help her even after her memories were restored. Just as she said, she fell in love with him even after her memory loss, and then gained her memory but was still able to find something to love in him, hoping to be the only true thing to him.

Overall, again, I'd say Shirley's death was better than Euphemia's

[SkitZoFrenic]

I honestly lawl'd at both...but if I had to choose...I would say Euphemia. She actually served a purpose in the show...whereas Shirley is simply filler >.>

[superman_1]

i would say euphie's death plus along with the sad background music going on while she is dying in front of suzaku made it even more tragic.... her death had a large impact on the whole cg world... its also more tragic cuz she tried to do something good for the japanese but everything fell apart with that accidental geass command and her whole image was destroyed...she came to be hated and also known as massacre princess... and she died believing she achieved wat she set out to do but wat ended up happening was a massacre...

[Graham Aker]

Euphie' death was very well done. Shirley' was like, done for the lulz.

[kenny0o0]

the way that Shirley die.. Was done perfectly..

Die for Love.. Fufilling her dreams..

[fieryexplosions]

i would say euphie's death plus along with the sad background music going on while she is dying in front of suzaku made it even more tragic.... her death had a large impact on the whole cg world... its also more tragic cuz she tried to do something good for the japanese but everything fell apart with that accidental geass command and her whole image was destroyed...she came to be hated and also known as massacre princess... and she died believing she achieved wat she set out to do but wat ended up happening was a massacre...
I would consider that a good thing. If she had died actually knowing what she had done, she would not have died happy. Because she thought she had done good for the world, she was able to die at peace.

Sorta reminds me of when old yagami died believing that his son actually wasn't kira.
Oh yeah, and I voted shirley. Euphie's death was like "Wait... what? You're kidding me, right?" Shirley's death seemed more meaningful to me for some reason.

[Rurushu]

Euphemia during death is going to find out that she indeed did not achieve what she set out to do,and massacred the Japanese. In my opinion it's cruel to tell someone a lie on their death bed,even if it is for their sake.

[The Cheat]

Euphemia during death is going to find out that she indeed did not achieve what she set out to do,and massacred the Japanese. In my opinion it's cruel to tell someone a lie on their death bed,even if it is for their sake.

Still, it would be even more sad if she died unhappy.

[kenny0o0]

true.. at least what she lastly know, she did "great" in helping the people..

[Fleecy]

Euphemia during death is going to find out that she indeed did not achieve what she set out to do,and massacred the Japanese. In my opinion it's cruel to tell someone a lie on their death bed,even if it is for their sake.

It is cruel to tell a lie to someone who's dying, but it was an extremely big thing... I mean if she found out that she massacred so many Japanese people, her heart would have been crushed in much pain because she found that idea to be utterly repulsive. That can also be seen as very cruel, so I am glad that Suzaku lied, if only to ease her death. I don't know which way is sadder though: her knowing what she did or Suzaku having to lie to her about it just so she could have a peaceful death.

[kenny0o0]

and then Euphire will haunt him in his dream... smile-big :P

[Rurushu]

It is cruel to tell a lie to someone who's dying, but it was an extremely big thing... I mean if she found out that she massacred so many Japanese people, her heart would have been crushed in much pain because she found that idea to be utterly repulsive. That can also be seen as very cruel, so I am glad that Suzaku lied, if only to ease her death. I don't know which way is sadder though: her knowing what she did or Suzaku having to lie to her about it just so she could have a peaceful death.

I guess both options are equally painful.

[Souten Kishun]

It is cruel to tell a lie to someone who's dying, but it was an extremely big thing... I mean if she found out that she massacred so many Japanese people, her heart would have been crushed in much pain because she found that idea to be utterly repulsive. That can also be seen as very cruel, so I am glad that Suzaku lied, if only to ease her death. I don't know which way is sadder though: her knowing what she did or Suzaku having to lie to her about it just so she could have a peaceful death.

There was only one thing for Suzaku to do in that situation: lie. It's not a bad thing at all. To let her final thoughts be happy even if they aren't true. Her effort was more than enough to make what she hoped come true and it would have if not for a complete fluke.

So yeah, I don't see any sadness in the lie personally. I was overjoyed to see it end like that actually. It's still of course sad as hell though ;__;

[Boromir]

Boromir.

'Tebbayo.

[Xion]

Shirley's seemed rushed and random. Plus, I hated her. And he death speech sounded like Orihime talking to Ichigo about wanting to be reborn a thousand times and crap. >_>

So Euphemia definitely. It was out of the fucking blue and heartbreaking since it completely went against everything she stood for.

[Samurai G]

shirley died because she pissed rolo off and caused him to go into a emo phase, euphie died for a noble cause, she was the main carrier for lelouchs united states of japan champaigne

[Nae'blis]

;_________________________;

bandwidth exceeded btw.

[SpitefulSerpent5]

I'd say Euphemia's. Because the goal she'd been working towards, which was working, all fell apart due to the accident-Geass, and her memory was forever tainted as the Massacre Princess. It also had the side effect of making Japanese views towards Britannia even more negative.

Put simply, Euphemia was more important in status than Shirley - Shirley's death was probably as touching on a personal level to her friends, but Euphemia's had far wider implications.

He just about got it right.

Plus I don't really give a shit about Shirley as opposed to the light fondness I had towards Euphie.

Oh, and I had a feeling you would pick the Brittanian Princess iCare. It appears your bias has yet to end. :pek

[Rukia]

NOOOOOOOOOOO! General Bartley!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can no longer make "the monopoly guy" analogies. :cry

[EtherSword]

shirley. but only if i don't look at the whole picture. just the interaction with lelouch and how lelouch reacted with his geass "don't die" and then the final with the scream. i think it was better then euphy's last sentences.

euphy's death had a greater impact to the CG "world" but shirly's death has a greater impact on lelouch. and considering lelouch is 90% of what makes code geass what it is..

What he said. And that I dislike Shirley less than Euphy.

[Ork]

Euphie, Neither of them were particularly well done, as say... the end of Chrno crusade, but euphies was less... overdone.

[DeathGuise_of_Oblivion]

My most heart breaking death is the fact that Suzaku is still alive.



Euphie's caught me off guard and was more of shock before any real emotion. Shirley's I was prepared for but once again more shock than emotion.

[Ian Fenette]

I voted Shirley, since this thread is the most heartbreaking and not the most societally impactful. Shirley's death had me actually going "No! Don't actually die!" and also made me a fan of her. Euphemia's death had me more concerned about Zero and what the heck he was going to do after this. Although it was a bit touching when Suzaku goes "The administrative area is a huge success!"

All in all, I found Shirley to be more appealing character-wise because she was a normal girl. Euphemia was unrealistically ambitious. Furthermore the term "adminstrative-area" makes it still sound like Britannia still owns Nippon, so IMO, it's just giving Elevens self-government.

[Isuzu]

For me, Shirley.

I already knew about Euphie's death and the way she died just wasn't tragic...it was sad, but because she had no memories of the event that would kill her, and because Suzaku continued to lie to her, I just get teary eyed.

And I love Euphie and Shirley almost equally.

As for Shirley's death, it was unexpected and overall just ":uwah" She died trying to do what her heart told her and help Lelouch. She was murdered for a terrible reason of envy.

And because she remembered, and she talked to Lelouch in the end, it was just insanely tragic. Lelouch trying to geass her into living, the tears, the scream at the end (it still sends shivers down my spine).

I found Euphie being Geassed and going on a massacre almost sadder than her death.

[Familyguy2170]

Voted for Euphy...

After everything that she went through with trying to help things, she's accidentally turned into a murderous psychopath by Lelouch and destroys all that which she worked to create...

She was the kindest person to ever grace the show and to see something like that happen to someone like her...was very, very hurtful...:(

I pretty much agree with that but Shirley's death was sad too.

[LelouchlovesShirley]

For me, Shirley.

I already knew about Euphie's death and the way she died just wasn't tragic...it was sad, but because she had no memories of the event that would kill her, and because Suzaku continued to lie to her, I just get teary eyed.

And I love Euphie and Shirley almost equally.

As for Shirley's death, it was unexpected and overall just ":uwah" She died trying to do what her heart told her and help Lelouch. She was murdered for a terrible reason of envy.

And because she remembered, and she talked to Lelouch in the end, it was just insanely tragic. Lelouch trying to geass her into living, the tears, the scream at the end (it still sends shivers down my spine).

I found Euphie being Geassed and going on a massacre almost sadder than her death.

Yea, I pretty much have the same opinion. Just seeing how Shirley's death made Lulu cry it made me cry. I am still sad thinking about it. :cryI really wish sunrise wouldn't have killed those 2 people. They were both so nice and pretty. They could have killed some guys in this anime too.smile-big

[MechaTC]

I'd say shirley. She's a completely innocent girl who got pulled into things by accident. Shirley loved lelouch so much that she had accepted his alter ego and wanted to help him...only to get killed. Lelouch never wanted this to happen of course making it that much more painful.

With euphie, we knew something like that might happen because of her position in the government...though still touching, it was more tragic as was said already. She was treading in VERY dangerous and sensitive water with doing something like creating a new japan.

Now the question is...what would you do if kallen died? Say...by the hands of suzaku? I'd get pretty pissed : /

[Isuzu]

If Kallen died...

I'd just be like: "WTF Sunrise. Wat. Teh. Fuxx." But I don't think Suzaku would kill her - unless some kind of horrible accident just blew up in their face. They better not kill Kallen off. That would be just too much.

[Nomeru]

I'm gunna say Euphie. I simply liked her more, not that I dont like Shirley, but I liked Euphie more. I didnt expect Shirley to die, or at least not there, but after Euphie's death, I think I kinda expected more people might die in the future. It wasnt necessaraly as much as a supprise as Euphie's death, which is why I choose her.

[LelouchlovesShirley]

If Kallen died...

I'd just be like: "WTF Sunrise. Wat. Teh. Fuxx." But I don't think Suzaku would kill her - unless some kind of horrible accident just blew up in their face. They better not kill Kallen off. That would be just too much.

Kallen's too much of an important character in the series. There is no way Sunrise would kill her off. Let's justnot talk about anyone else dying! It's just so sad!:cry

[Aishiteru]

I'm with Toffeeman.

Shirley's Death is more Heartbreaking for she realized no matter how many times she was reborn, she always fell in love with Lelouch. Even if he was responsible for killing her father.

Euphy's Death is more Tragic because of the accidential Geassing and her being force to kill the Japanese.

I totally agree with this.

But the LuluShirley shipper within me says that Shirley's death wins by any account just because Lelouch was so extremely upset and they could never be physically canon.

:-(

[hcheng02]

I also agree with Toffeeman. Shirley's death is personally more sad whereas Euphy's death is more tragic and impactful in the storyline. Euphy's death was an awesome plot twist too.

However, I would say that Shirley's death scene was done better. I feel kind of guilty saying this, but I found Euphy's death somewhat... funny. It was kind of horrifying to see Euphy screaming and struggling to overcome the Geass, but once she was under its control it became so bizarre that I had a hard time taking it seriously. From the sing-song voice she used to tell the crowd of Japanese to jump off a cliff to the way she looked as a blood-splattered Disney Princess machine gunning down people, I had remind myself that I'm supposed to be horrified rather than just amused. To me it reached critical mass during her death bed. When the scene of

Euphy: Did I do good?
Cut to crowd
Crowd: Kill the witch!

occurred, I just went "No you didn't." :hehee

Am I the only one who thinks that?

[mary no jutsu]

Euphie's death really got to me:

1. That music playing while she died was haunting
2. Her memory was soiled by something she would never ever intentionally committed.

I guess Shirley's death would have been sadder for me if I hadn't at the time known she was already going to die. Thanks spoilers.