What do you think of hackers?

[[I am teh Haruka]]

So... my computer got hacked last night. Some guy changed the password to our SBC yahoo. But luckily, my dad was able to call them and they worked things out.

Today, I installed Zone Alarm (free one) to protect my computer, it seems to work just fine.

Personally, I dislike hackers. I mean, it may seem "cool" to some but to me I just don't really care.

So my question to you is, do you like hackers? Why or why not? Or are you a hacker?

[Liengod]

I read a thing on hacking.

Hackers hack because they want to get to information because people don't want them too high class hackers atleast who have hacked the government and what not and they basically hack out of curiousity. I've never been hacked because I have one of the newest PCs on the market and I frequently reformat to avoid viruses.

I don't really care about hackers basically.

[[I am teh Haruka]]

Love the signature.

Anyways! I never really cared for hackers either, until last night. I still don't care too much anyway.

[Liengod]

Ya, usually if you do get hacked its easily eradicated unless you need to get a new computer then I can see how it would be really frusturating, but then there are people who say they get hacked when it is really just a virus and if you get a virus easily and you're virus protection didn't save you it means time for new software or for even a new computer anyway. ^.^

[[I am teh Haruka]]

Ya, usually if you do get hacked its easily eradicated unless you need to get a new computer then I can see how it would be really frusturating, but then there are people who say they get hacked when it is really just a virus and if you get a virus easily and you're virus protection didn't save you it means time for new software or for even a new computer anyway. ^.^

My dad was gonna get a new computer JUST for himself (cause my brother and I seem to mess it this one up a lot. =_=)

But today was the last day for the offer, so yeah. I dunno what he did about it though.

[Marl]

Hackers are fine, as long as they stick to uncovering data the government wants to keep secret. When they start getting malicious - that's something else.

+++Edit+++
Afterthought - they need to find a better hobby. :P

[martimus]

they are 2 types of hackers crackers as they call themselves hack programs and find there weakspots and tell the companys about them hackers basiccly just hack you for information or much more likely for a laugh so thats why i have a lot of programs on my computer that helps protect against hackers and basiccly i dont mind about hackers cause i dont have any persanol information on my pc but i would love to learn to hack

[vmyk13]

people who lacks courage to get a real job.
do something good for their expertise earn hard earned cash for their GOOD work.

[[I am teh Haruka]]

they are 2 types of hackers crackers as they call themselves hack programs and find there weakspots and tell the companys about them hackers basiccly just hack you for information or much more likely for a laugh so thats why i have a lot of programs on my computer that helps protect against hackers and basiccly i dont mind about hackers cause i dont have any persanol information on my pc but i would love to learn to hack

You don't have ANY personal information on the computer? I think not!

If you go to Ebay or buy stuff online, your information stays so you don't have to type it all again. Even if you can't see it, it's still there... somewhere.

And what about passwords? They can look into your passwords, that's what the hacker did last night to me.

[Liengod]

I thought someone hacked my MSN Messenger account once. It was really my friends Mary and Jaime >.>

[Hangatýr]

I despise hackers, personally. Especially the kind who go into stuff like passwords for IM-accounts. They need to get a life, instead of ruining those of others.

[narutorulez]

i hate hackers. a.k.a computer nerds

[[I am teh Haruka]]

I thought someone hacked my MSN Messenger account once. It was really my friends Mary and Jaime >.>

XD

That's funny.

I thought someone hacked into my MSN messenger one day too cause it kept logging me out and told me I logged into another computer. So I changed the password.

^_^;

Plus, my friends don't know how to hack... they don't spend much time on the computer, so yeah.

[vmyk13]

I despise hackers, personally. Especially the kind who go into stuff like passwords for IM-accounts. They need to get a life, instead of ruining those of others.

i agree with you dude.
i think hackers dont have a social life thats why they love them computers
hmmm

[Liengod]

']XD

That's funny.

I thought someone hacked into my MSN messenger one day too cause it kept logging me out and told me I logged into another computer. So I changed the password.

^_^;

Plus, my friends don't know how to hack... they don't spend much time on the computer, so yeah.


XD They did the whole, secret question thing. And somehow they knew it it was probably Jaime because we went out for like 4 months, but then I got my password back and changed the secret question question to something making fun of them I forget, I lolled when they got mad.

[Raistlin-sama]

i hate hackers. a.k.a computer nerds

sorry, but theres a big diffence there: All hackers are computer nerds, but not all computer nerds are hackers

Personaly i don't care much about hackers, since they never really bothered me... The only kind of hacker i really don't like is those who does it just to destroy things

[rickybuch]

']So... my computer got hacked last night. Some guy changed the password to our SBC yahoo. But luckily, my dad was able to call them and they worked things out.

Today, I installed Zone Alarm (free one) to protect my computer, it seems to work just fine.

Personally, I dislike hackers. I mean, it may seem "cool" to some but to me I just don't really care.

So my question to you is, do you like hackers? Why or why not? Or are you a hacker?
I didnt read all the posts in this topic so this might've already been said but...
You're thinking of a cracker, not a hacker. Crackers hack into computers maliciously, without reason, just to destroy/steal info/make your life miserable ect ect. But a true hacker (like myself) is not a freakin moron and hacks to help people, to find bugs in programs (a lot of hackers are beta testers) and patch holes in your PC so you WONT get hacked. Yah :smile-big Just letting you know, don't be prejeduice <--- severe typo XD :P

[[I am teh Haruka]]

I got CRACKED... not hacked.

Wow...

[Triggenism]

They probably dont want to be evil if you havent pissed them off before, they just want to show their 1337 skillz!

It was a dude from my country who hacked into NASA!!

Friggin respect!

[rickybuch]

They probably dont want to be evil if you havent pissed them off before, they just want to show their 1337 skillz!

It was a dude from my country who hacked into NASA!!

Friggin respect!
Thats some crazy 1337 skills to hack NASA... what country are you from ?!?!? :blink

[Hangatýr]

Well yeah, that's true. Some hackers do hack to make the lives of others easier, and that's the only good type of hacker, and one that should be thanked, in my opinion.

[[I am teh Haruka]]

Well yeah, that's true. Some hackers do hack to make the lives of others easier, and that's the only good type of hacker, and one that should be thanked, in my opinion.

True, but the rest are just... ugh.

[Triggenism]

lol, it wasnt me who hacked the NASA. It was some 16 year old who hacked NASA at his school.. lol

[۩ReYmДN-dono۩]

people who lacks courage to get a real job.
do something good for their expertise earn hard earned cash for their GOOD work.
u have taken my words

[Onijai]

You guys have completely the wrong idea. Your so called "hackers" are probably people, most likely some kid who got bored then, just picked up a brute-force program from some website and used it against you. In that case, they'd be referred to as "crackers" anyway. They basically type in all the different combinations, based on dictionaries or symbol maps, that the password could be till it gets it right, there are other types, but I won't go into it.

"Hackers" are just programmers, essentially. As someone already said, their job is to find flaws in the programming of other people and exploit them - to then report back to the company/other programmers to fix it.

The idea of "hackers" has been totally blown up out of proportion by the media and Hollywood.

[royalguardx]

i kinda don't really care about hackers...if they try to hack me...on my shiet i'll do the same and find out where they live and whoop they ass...haha lol...(i'm sorta of a hacker but i'm a good one that doesn't do it for fun or work) and also i don't really know much hacking techniques.

[Zerolok]

Malicious hackers are often just retards using canned "hacking" programs or sending viruses created by other fools. The real hackers are those that expose flaws in security to protect against the retards.

[Brant Kogasu]

I hate hackers. I hate spyware, viruses and hackers. why do people do it? because people have no respect for anyone but themselves, they are so selfish that they will send out things that can take away someones privacy and ruin one of the most important parts of modern day society in america, our computers. I recently had to F disk my computer, and it pisses me off that i had to. but the worst part is how as soon as I brought my comp back up, i went on the internet to narutofan, hotmail, loserz (Online comic) and homestar and I already had spyware. THOSE SITES ARE RESPECTABLE, NO BODY SHOULD SEND VIRUSES TO UNDESERVING PEOPLE. If you are a hacker or make viruses and spyware I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL YOU DISCUSTING EXCUSE FOR SLIME, IF I COULD I WOULD PERSONALLY KICK ALL OF YOUR ASSES SO YOU COULD GET WHAT HAS BEEN COMING TO YOU!!!!

[DOK]

does being a hacker make me cool?
cuz if it does, im a hacker!

[Nihonjin]

You guys have completely the wrong idea. Your so called "hackers" are probably people, most likely some kid who got bored then, just picked up a brute-force program from some website and used it against you. In that case, they'd be referred to as "crackers" anyway. They basically type in all the different combinations, based on dictionaries or symbol maps, that the password could be till it gets it right, there are other types, but I won't go into it.

"Hackers" are just programmers, essentially. As someone already said, their job is to find flaws in the programming of other people and exploit them - to then report back to the company/other programmers to fix it.

The idea of "hackers" has been totally blown up out of proportion by the media and Hollywood.

You said EXACTLY what I was about to say. :oh

Most people hate hackers because of one bad experiance they had with them...Imo its stupid.

If an american walks up your door step, rings your bell and shoots you in the kneecap for no reason you probably wouldn't say "I HATE AMERICANS" simply because the guy is American (or you'd be a racist O_o)...

You'd probably say: "I HATE THE PSYCHO WHO SHOT ME IN THE KNEE FOR KNOW REASON WHAT SO EVER".

But seeing as most people don't even know the word "hacking" isn't necessarely bad...they asume all hackers create trojans/virusses, and hack passwords.
And hate them for that reason..

[DOK]

what good has come from hacking?

[Zouri]

I hate hackers. I hate spyware, viruses and hackers. why do people do it? because people have no respect for anyone but themselves, they are so selfish that they will send out things that can take away someones privacy and ruin one of the most important parts of modern day society in america, our computers. I recently had to F disk my computer, and it pisses me off that i had to. but the worst part is how as soon as I brought my comp back up, i went on the internet to narutofan, hotmail, loserz (Online comic) and homestar and I already had spyware. THOSE SITES ARE RESPECTABLE, NO BODY SHOULD SEND VIRUSES TO UNDESERVING PEOPLE. If you are a hacker or make viruses and spyware I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL YOU DISCUSTING EXCUSE FOR SLIME, IF I COULD I WOULD PERSONALLY KICK ALL OF YOUR ASSES SO YOU COULD GET WHAT HAS BEEN COMING TO YOU!!!!

Dude, calm down. I learned to program in Java and other such languages, so technically that makes me a hacker. And trust us, most of us don't do that kind of thing. Makes me sick when the profession that I'm looking towards can be degraded like this.

Besides, most "hackers" today are little kids who got a program that infects someone's computer or does something to a similar extent. Harldy hacking in any sense of the word.

As to what DOK asked, it's already been explained but hackers look for bugs or defects in programs.

[dmby]

true hackers are people who are employed to test and fix programming flaws.

Fake hackers are kids who get a hold of a trojan and send it in an email about penile dysfunction.

[monk3]

i hate those h4xx0rz in warcraft. they are such n00bish h4xx0rz

[dmby]

^totally, the ones who say I \/\/|LL p\/\/nj0r j00!

[Zouri]

^ Ugh, leet. I'm not against it, I do use it sometimes. But I hate it when people use it EVERY-FREAKIN-WHERE. What was cool, having the CGC (Computer Gaming Club) page in our yearbook in leet. What's not cool, 5 year olds that use it in every conversation there in.

Maybe what I said is hypocritical or something, I don't care.

[dmby]

^ Ugh, leet. I'm not against it, I do use it sometimes. But I hate it when people use it EVERY-FREAKIN-WHERE. What was cool, having the CGC (Computer Gaming Club) page in our yearbook in leet. What's not cool, 5 year olds that use it in every conversation there in.

its not the leet speak im against its the noobs who use it all the time in CS

[Zouri]

its not the leet speak im against its the noobs who use it all the time in CS

Ah yes, Counter-Strike. Where all tech fads go to fester on in a undignified existance.

And that was what I was trying to say, guess I didn't get my point across to clearly. Oh well, no harm done.

[dmby]

Ah yes, Counter-Strike. Where all tech fads go to fester on in a undignified existance.

oh its too true. some people are on 24 hrs a day.

[louuster]

^same thing for wow, wtf these people never sleep?
Back to the hacker thing, as most people said, those that help eliminating security flaws are good.
The little punks who think they're t3h l33t because they got a program that fucks another computer are not.

[Zouri]

oh its too true. some people are on 24 hrs a day.

Well, for some people I guess it's enough of a reward to know that they can run backwards and shoot some guy in the head with only 5% health and no armor using a sub machine gun, while they avoid getting shivved. Or something like that.

[akuma no omoigakenai saku]

I don't think that the people who say they hate all hackers on here are being prejudiced. They, like me, just don't know what to call who, and why? (was that a real sentence?...meh).

I didn't know the difference between a hacker and a cracker until I read it in this thread, and I think there is a good reason that people don't know.

What I've been able to grasp so far is that hackers hack systems to fix bugs and crackers are dicks. Here's the problem. Soccer players play soccer, dishwashers wash dishes, hackers hack, and crackers...hack?

Shouldn't crackers be cracking thing, less they be hackers by definition.

I think to fix this misconception, the good hackers should change the name of the whole group, and leave the "hacker" tag to the virus-using punks.

Beta Tester is good when it applies (like when you are specifically on payroll), but we need some new names for you people who are out there finding bugs as a freelance thing.

"Software integrity analyst" would be perfect, and would look great on a resume, under work experience or as a hobby (like saying landscape engineer, topiary sculptor, and child care professional instead of lawn mower, hedge trimmer, and babysitter).

You could charge consultancy fees and be all set.

[Tine]

depends, heh.

[lastmn4ever]

i personly dont ike the bad hackers like evryone els when i saw what they can do in the runescape massacer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGKlns62w1A

[troublesum-chan]

Now lets not a few bad bananas spoil the bunch...those dS wifi haxxors are meanies, though...destroying my stainless tetris record with their hax...

[Psycho]

i've hacked during some time, but not people, companys, the government, the IRS, etc... but i never changed anything

now i just do game cheat hacks

[Tsukiyomi]

It depends, are you talking about real hackers or what people refer to as hackers?

I'm a hacker by the traditional definition. I hack to learn, the majority of hacking I do is of my own programs (such as hacking windows or photoshop) and of my schools network in high school. Never to cause damage or steal, but to learn.

I hate the wannabe hackers who break into systems to cause damage or write viruses to destroy or steal information. I find those people pathetic.

[The Black Knight]

If an american walks up your door step, rings your bell and shoots you in the kneecap for no reason you probably wouldn't say "I HATE AMERICANS" simply because the guy is American (or you'd be a racist O_o)...





ohohhhhhhhhh......I'm sorry, but...We all know somebody on these forums that would say that.......*cough* PK *cough**cough* :amuse

[jakuzo]

I really don't hate hackers. I don't have a reason to. But having your computer hacked doesn't sound very pleasant either....

[amaterasujutsu]

I don't like hackers. I suggest that you should go to Microsoft and download a free software called window defender, and some other similar software if you like. Go there and read the description to see if it'll help.

[destroy_musick]

as my programming teacher once put it:

hacking is juvenile and to most professional programmers, easy and vulgar, it does nothing but prove how childish some people can be.

Of course he was more talking about script kiddies

[Kayo]

meh hackers.. thats so out these days

[metal_uzumaki]

Just as long that they don't get any personal details then their fine.

[Tsukiyomi]

as my programming teacher once put it:

hacking is juvenile and to most professional programmers, easy and vulgar, it does nothing but prove how childish some people can be.

Of course he was more talking about script kiddies

Script kiddies aren't really hackers.

Even professional programmers do some hacking in the most traditional sense. Its essentially writing ugly code because it works and you have to.

I've done that in many programs I've written, hit a roadblock then ended up writing some ugly code just to get the job done.

[Ha-ri]

Hackers - Good
Crackers - Bad

[Heldensheld]

Some hackers can be cool...

Like if they hack into Iraq.

[Konata Izumi]

Hackers and crackers aren't really that big of a deal. But the people who make spyware? They are much worse. If i were the ruler of the world...

[Mindfuck]

Some hackers can be cool...

Like if they hack into Iraq.


Hahahahaha, funny.


Well, as Fluffier said, hackers and crackers aren't.. that big a deal. Depends on what they hack into. Making spyware is much worse, but beeing hacked sucks.

[Iria]

Good movie. Cool music.

After that I got one of those tool bars and postulate-punted all my friends and sent them e-mail color bombs.

Ahh, back in the early days of the internet, with the "key-board cow-boys" and all that :cry

[Sakashi]

personally i've never been hacked. pro because of the 3 firewalls i have on 24/7. Router, windows, zonealarm. lol

but yea, they're dead annoying once they start messing with ur personal stuff, e.g. money, info, accounts.