View Full Version : Tournament 1 - Round 1 - Match 1 - Brooke vs Xirk
Vagrant Tom
06-19-2008, 03:48 PM
The Rules
1. Vote clearly on the victor. You must state a reason why you feel that team would win. Your vote is voided if: You don't have a reason stated, you have less than 100 posts (unless it is decided differently), and if you don't put I vote for: (Participant Name here) at the end of your post.
2. Only 1 vote allowed. If later you are persuaded by someone and choose to vote for the other person, then only that vote will count.
3. No filler abilities, none period.
4. No character hype, yes Zoro is fucking awesome, but please try and be serious and just go off their skills
5. Experience of fighting WITH or AGAINST character's are in play. (eg Baroque Works pairs, such as Mr 4 and Miss Merry Christmas will work well together) EXPERIENCE IS ONLY IN AFFECT FROM CHAPTER 500 AND BEFORE.
6. There is no prep time. But your characters have unlimited time before a match where they can discuss strategy and share knowledge etc. But no actions may be taken before a match.
7. The Incharacter Rule
Characters will do their best to follow a strategy. They will happily attack the enemy (even Sanji will kick a girl if she is the enemy). Characters have no fear (Ussop will not run away). When left with nothing to do and no guidelines, characters will behave incharacter as they would do in the manga.
8. If caught bribing for votes or cheating (making aliases), you will be disqualified from the tournament.
9. Logias are not intangible, they can be hurt by all normal attacks (eg, you don't need water to hurt Crocodile). Zombies character are also the same, they can be hurt with normall attacks, not just salt and fire.
10. A strategy cannot plan for things the characters have no knowledge of. For example, a team cannot plan for Don Kriegs poison if no one on that players team has knowledge of it.
Location: Whitebeard's Ship (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/434/02/)
Teams start at opposite ends of the ship. Teams may not leave the ship.
Brooke
Team Supa!
Franky (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=16135199&postcount=7) - 25
Brooke (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=16195863&postcount=82) - 25
Usopp (Current with Kabuto) - 15 (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=16264732&postcount=105)
Buggy - 5 (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=16136483&postcount=37)
Xirk
Team Xirk
Rob Lucci (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=16135159&postcount=5) - 40
Moria (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=16135215&postcount=8) - 30
Please wait for both strategies to go up before voting. Good luck both teams!
Brooke
06-19-2008, 06:06 PM
Alright then my first tourny and first time posting a strategy so if it's sloppy I apologize.So here we go
So at the start of the match my team will line up in formation Brook and Franky will stand side by side with Usopp standing behind the two of them in the middle and Buggy following right behind Usopp.Like so
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c204/goggleskei/Formation.jpg
This formation is basically Franky and Brook being the main line of attack with Usopp and Buggy being support,Franky and Brook will move slightly away from one another to give Usopp enough space to fire off attacks.
Then as soon as they are in formation Franky will use his Coup De Vent (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/338/14-15/) forward at the opponent obviously destroying the top of the ship including the mast and sending it flying in the direction of my opponent.After Franky uses this attack Usopp will fire off multiple Fire Bird Stars (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/398/12/) to set the debris on fire,so basically multiple flaming pieces of wood are flying towards my opponent.
Basically after this initial attack if the opponent has come into close quarter combat Brooke will use Namuriuta Flan (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/493/16/) on the opponent to cause them to fall asleep,as soon as they are asleep Usopp with fire a Sticky Star (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/466/07/) at the opponents feet to make them stay still incase they wake up,if anyone has any speculation on weither my character will fall asleep also I believe my team won't be put to sleep since in the Manga Luffy and Chopper were the only ones affected and they are not to smart.If my opponent falls asleep then Brook will use a thrusting attack and aim straight for the opponent's head closest to him.Franky on the other hand will use a Strong Hammer attack on the opponents head.During the assault of Brook and Franky Buggy will use a basic Bara Bara attack with a knife coming from both hands to stab the opponent from behind in there lower back.
If my opponent wants to use far away combat Frank will use Star Shield to block any major attacks coming from my opponent.While Buggy uses his Bara Bara power to make his hand flying off behind him as to not be seen and sneak around the bottom of the ship to come up behind the opponent and stab them in the heads from behind.Usopp will be giving cover fire using different attacks he has at his disposal any can be effect as at least cover.
If close quarters becomes to intense as in my opponent for some reason doesn't fall asleep (though I can't imagine why they wouldn't) Franky will use Ultimate Hammer (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/373/06-07/) on the floor of the ship to brake it apart,which in case Usopp with use a Smoke Star (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/373/18/) to cover themselves.In the middle of the Smoke Franky will use Fresh Fire (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/336/05/) and Buggy will use Bara Bara Festival (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/20/07/) as a distraction it won't be a big one but with the minor distraction it gives Brooke will use his sword play to attack the opponent.
Everything else will just be in-character of course.
If Moria tries to steal my shadow?
I doubt he would since it seemed in the show he needed alot of concentrated light to do so.If he does try it Franky will break the floor and Usopp will use long Range attacks to fend him off.
For my first strategy I hope I did well,I appreciate anyone of votes for me and try to keep Team Supa! alive.People who vote will be getting reps for me regardless of who they vote for.
StrawHat4Life
06-19-2008, 06:15 PM
Keep in mind you can still edit your strategy until your opponent has put up theirs.
Brooke
06-19-2008, 06:18 PM
Keep in mind you can still edit your strategy until your opponent has put up theirs.
Thank you for telling me if I think of anything else and he hasn't posted yet I will add it.
Vagrant Tom
06-20-2008, 05:23 AM
I think you'll win in ranged combat without a doubt, but I think Lucci can defeat you up close (he is quite literally a beast). Nice first strategy though!
Lucci and Moria are standing on the exterior of the bow of Whitebeard's ship when the fight starts.
The moment the fight starts Lucci activates his standard devil fruit transformation (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/349/04-05/), consecutively he activates kamisori (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/427/09/) and floats directly above Whitebeard's ship with geppou (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/423/04/) up to as high as the tops of the masts of Whitebeard's ship.
As for Moria the moment the fight starts he activates doppelman (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/463/05/) and positions himself directly behind it with he and doppelman facing the rear of the ship.
The moment Lucci identifies Team Brooke he will immedietley recognise Franky as he fought with him in the past.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/418/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/418/12/
Lucci activates kamisori and applies sai dai rin: rokuougan (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/427/11/) to Franky, defeating him.
Sai dai rin: rokougan will defeat Franky once applied because Franky took considerable damage from casual punches from Lucci.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/352/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/418/12/
Rokougan delivers internal damage so Franky's steel skin will provide no defence.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/425/17/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/246/18/
Franky will be unable to react to Lucci's sai dai rin: rokougan, Franky was unable to react to Lucci attacking him with out using soru much less kamisori. No one on team Brooke will be able to defend Franky due to them having insuficient reaction abilites, none of them can react to Lucci's speed. Not even Luffy was able to avoid Lucci's rokougan not once.
After defeating Franky Lucci kamisori's up to Usopp and shigans him in the throat (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/347/12/), defeating him. Lucci then kamisori's up to buggy and applies a rokougan, deafeting him. Niether Usopp or Buggy have the reaction feats to defend themselves.
When Moria identifies Brook he mauls him with Brick Bat (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/463/08/) then reforms Brick Bat into Doppleman consecutively using Kagemusha (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/07/) and strips Brooke of his shadow. Moria used this strategy succesfuly on Robin while she was accompanied buy multiple high tier Straw Hat's, Brooke will be unable to effectivley react to it. Once Brook falls unconciouse Moria throws him overboard. And yes depsite beeing a skeleton Brooke can drown.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/493/07/
Though if this fights takes place during the day Brookes body will be anhilated once his shadow is removed any way.
Then as soon as they are in formation Franky will use his Coup De Vent forward at the opponent
Franky succesfuly hitting my team seams unlikely as he will be unable to see them from his starting postion.
Basically after this initial attack if the opponent has come into close quarter combat Brooke will use Namuriuta Flan on the opponent to cause them to fall asleep
if anyone has any speculation on weither my character will fall asleep also I believe my team won't be put to sleep since in the Manga Luffy and Chopper were the only ones affected and they are not to smart.
If Namuriuta Flan only works on simple minded idiots and such it won't work Lucci or Moria if it did Brook could have used it on Ryuma or some such.
Usopp with fire a Sticky Star at the opponents feet to make them stay still incase they wake up
Sticky star has only restrained Perona who isn't even peak human, someone as super human as Lucci can easily break out of it and Moria can use kagemusha to escape.
If Moria tries to steal my shadow?
I doubt he would since it seemed in the show he needed alot of concentrated light to do so.
When Moria took Robin's shadow there was no such significant light source.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/08/
If he does try it Franky will break the floor and Usopp will use long Range attacks to fend him off.
When Moria casualy took Robin's shadow none of the Straw Hat's where able to do anything to stop him.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/07/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/09/
Vagrant Tom
06-20-2008, 08:16 AM
I'm going to wait to see what Brooke has to say before voting. It's always good to get a bit of debate going. I suppose Brooke really didn't address how to beat Lucci, which is the major worry here. None of his characters are suited to fighting someone this fast.
Han Solo
06-20-2008, 09:24 AM
I think Brooke's strat is a little weak on how to finish the other team. It's good for a first time, but Luuci is being there, being stupidly powerful. He didn't stop that.
I'll wait for rebbutals.
Dracule Mihawk
06-20-2008, 10:20 AM
I think the strength difference between the two teams is too great but maybe Brooke has a way to counter it... I like his strategy though. Could work. I'll also wait a bit before voting.
Brooke
06-20-2008, 07:43 PM
Counter Rebuttles
Franky succesfuly hitting my team seams unlikely as he will be unable to see them from his starting postion.
He is not aiming for your team with the Coup De Vent he is sending Large amount of debris in your general direction.Though Lucci may be able to dodge Moria showed no feats of speed.
If Namuriuta Flan only works on simple minded idiots and such it won't work Lucci or Moria if it did Brook could have used it on Ryuma or some such.
There was no proof that it only works on simple minded people,if that was the case why would he use it on opponent's he has no knowledge about.My comment was more because Luffy and Chopper fell asleep even though it wasn't even aimed at them.Thus I see no reason why Lucci or Moria would not be put to sleep.
The fact he didn't use it on Ryuuma is no ground at all considering Zoro was meant to beat him period.
Sticky star has only restrained Perona who isn't even peak human, someone as super human as Lucci can easily break out of it and Moria can use kagemusha to escape.
The only way Lucci would be able to get free is using his hands on the deck of the ship,I don't see why in character Brook could not just attack him with the sword while he atmepts to escape.
When Moria took Robin's shadow there was no such significant light source.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/08/
When Moria casualy took Robin's shadow none of the Straw Hat's where able to do anything to stop him.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/07/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/08/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/09/[/spoiler]
That was more to take her out of the fight as all the members were falling one by one.I can't see why anyone with considerable speed could not counter attack while he tries to take it.
Rebuttles to his Strategy
Lucci and Moria are standing on the exterior of the bow of Whitebeard's ship when the fight starts.
The moment the fight starts Lucci activates his standard devil fruit transformation, consecutively he activates kamisori and floats directly above Whitebeard's ship with geppou up to as high as the tops of the masts of Whitebeard's ship.
As for Moria the moment the fight starts he activates doppelman and positions himself directly behind it with he and doppelman facing the rear of the ship.
Lucci and Moria would both be hit with debirs as soon as the fight starts since Lucci transformation isn't instant.Also Doppleman doesn't help against an attack like that if he tries switching with it he would just get hit first.
The moment Lucci identifies Team Brooke he will immedietley recognise Franky as he fought with him in the past.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/418/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/418/12/
Lucci activates kamisori and applies sai dai rin: rokuougan to Franky, defeating him.
Sai dai rin: rokougan will defeat Franky once applied because Franky took considerable damage from casual punches from Lucci.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/352/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/418/12/
Rokougan delivers internal damage so Franky's steel skin will provide no defence.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/425/17/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/246/18/
Franky will be unable to react to Lucci's sai dai rin: rokougan, Franky was unable to react to Lucci attacking him with out using soru much less kamisori. No one on team Brooke will be able to defend Franky due to them having insuficient reaction abilites, none of them can react to Lucci's speed. Not even Luffy was able to avoid Lucci's rokougan not once.
You act like the attack is instant he has to land first and then wrap his tail around Franky then launch the attack.I have no doubt in my mind that Lucci wouldn't be able to be put to sleep in that time period.Even if he cannot Brook is fast enough to react and counter attack Lucci,then with a Combo of all 4 of my people I think Lucci could be taken down.
The only reason Luffy wasn't able to was because it was a one on one and he was held by Lucci's tail.
After defeating Franky Lucci kamisori's up to Usopp and shigans him in the throat, defeating him. Lucci then kamisori's up to buggy and applies a rokougan, deafeting him. Niether Usopp or Buggy have the reaction feats to defend themselves.
I doubt he would be out just like that he took an attack from Kuma and didn't die,and Franky was out of Cola at that point.
When Moria identifies Brook he mauls him with Brick Bat then reforms Brick Bat into Doppleman consecutively using Kagemusha and strips Brooke of his shadow. Moria used this strategy succesfuly on Robin while she was accompanied buy multiple high tier Straw Hat's, Brooke will be unable to effectivley react to it. Once Brook falls unconciouse Moria throws him overboard. And yes depsite beeing a skeleton Brooke can drown.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/493/07/
Though if this fights takes place during the day Brookes body will be anhilated once his shadow is removed any way.
I don't see why Usopp or even Buggy wouldn't be able to counter attack and stop Moria from taking Brook's or anyone else's Shadow Moria doesn't seem all that durable and a direct attack to the face from Usopp or Buggy should be able to stop him from getting the shadow away.
StrawHat4Life
06-20-2008, 11:26 PM
Hmm...Brooke's strat really seems to hinge on Namuriuta Fan being able to activate in time. I could easily see Lucci blazing through Brooke's entire team like a bowling ball. I'm undecided so far.
Kagutsuchi
06-21-2008, 04:40 AM
I only have one question.
How in the world can you hurt Lucci?
Franky couldn't really bust through Lucci's tekkai in his normal form.
http://img39.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/00000418/12.jpg
I don't think Brooke or Ussop can do anything either.
He is not aiming for your team with the Coup De Vent he is sending Large amount of debris in your general direction. Though Lucci may be able to dodge Moria showed no feats of speed.
A few chunks of wood arn't going to inflict any damage to my team.
Lucci shrugged off (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/422/09/) gigant pistol (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/421/18-19/) and multiple consequative gear 2nd attacks.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/418/13/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/418/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/418/18/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/419/04/
Moria can protect him self with doppleman (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/463/07/).
There was no proof that it only works on simple minded people,if that was the case why would he use it on opponent's he has no knowledge about. My comment was more because Luffy and Chopper fell asleep even though it wasn't even aimed at them.Thus I see no reason why Lucci or Moria would not be put to sleep.
There's no proof it works on anything other then fodder or simple minded idiots.
The fact he didn't use it on Ryuuma is no ground at all considering Zoro was meant to beat him period.
Brooke was fighting with every thing he had to beat Ryuma to get his shadow and back and return to Laboon, if putting Ryuma to sleep would work he would have used it.
The only way Lucci would be able to get free is using his hands on the deck of the ship,I don't see why in character Brook could not just attack him with the sword while he atmepts to escape.
Lucci would casualy break free in an instant, sticky star has only worked on people who are not even peak human, there's no evidence to suggest that it would even slow Lucci down.
That was more to take her out of the fight as all the members were falling one by one.I can't see why anyone with considerable speed could not counter attack while he tries to take it.
No one on your team is as fast as Sanji, Sanji wasn't fast enough to save Robin. (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/477/09/) Moria can steal any shadows from your team with out any real trouble.
You act like the attack is instant he has to land first and then wrap his tail around Franky then launch the attack.I have no doubt in my mind that Lucci wouldn't be able to be put to sleep in that time period.
Lucci dosn't have to wrap is tail around the target, that's just an option to prevent the oponent from dodgeing it, Lucci owned Franky with out using soru twice, Franky can not react to Lucci kamisori-ing up to him and consequatively using sai dai rin: rokuougan.
Even if he cannot Brook is fast enough to react and counter attack Lucci,
No way in hell. As far as speed goes.
Lucci > Kaku/Base Zoro/Ryuma > Brooke.
then with a Combo of all 4 of my people I think Lucci could be taken down.
You going to have elaborate more on that, explain how they would accomplish that with evidence to support it.
The only reason Luffy wasn't able to was because it was a one on one and he was held by Lucci's tail.
Luffy still didn't avoid the rokougans that didn't envole Lucci's tail.
I doubt he would be out just like that he took an attack from Kuma and didn't die,and Franky was out of Cola at that point.
He didn't die but it k.o-ed him, though Kuma's pressure cannon is external Lucci's rokougan in internal, the ammount of cola Franky has at his disposal dosn't affect his durrability.
Cyphon
06-21-2008, 08:22 AM
I only have one question.
How in the world can you hurt Lucci?
Franky couldn't really bust through Lucci's tekkai in his normal form.
http://img39.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/00000418/12.jpg
I don't think Brooke or Ussop can do anything either.
If Brooke's song puts him to sleep then i would say tekkai would be released
Vagrant Tom
06-21-2008, 02:47 PM
Alright this is the 24 hour warning, so everyone please vote!
I'll cast my vote tomorrow morning.
Brooke
06-21-2008, 03:39 PM
Ehh it looks like I basically lost this lol.Ehh well no one on my team can really beat Lucci regardless,and yes my strategy did hinge on Namuriuta Flan but every strategy has to have base.
Ehh well if anyone does vote for my strategy I appreciate it and all.Maybe I can enter the next tournament that comes around try to get a better powerhouse on my team.
TheOftViewer
06-21-2008, 04:50 PM
I vote for Xirk
I like Brooke's strategy a lot, and I think it would be a very effective strategy against a team that doesn't have a powerhouse like Lucci. However, Lucci is there. Doppleman should be able to tie up Brooke while Lucci takes down Franky, and from there, any plan to take down Lucci with Moria interfering is going to fall apart.
StrawHat4Life
06-22-2008, 10:02 AM
Brooke has a solid strategy but his team just got a bad match up. I don't see Brooke being able to put the opposition to sleep before Lucci comes barreling in.
I vote for Xirk.
Cyphon
06-22-2008, 10:15 AM
I think Brooks strat would work if he could lul Lucci to sleep, but I have trouble seeing that happening. My vote will go to Xirk
MrChubz
06-22-2008, 11:34 AM
Vote Xirk
I can't see the wood from a destroyed mast even tickling Lucci. After that's over nothing's stopping Lucci from beating the living crap out of Brooke's team.
Vagrant Tom
06-22-2008, 01:57 PM
I must also vote Xirk
Brooke had a great plan, but sadly he has very little capable of taking out the tank that is Lucci. His speed is damn fast to and Xirk played him quite safely here. Good game though.
Lucci's isn't really going to be taken care of especially since his first target is Franky. And Franky is the only one on the other team with enough power to take out Lucci.
Vote Xirk
TheOftViewer
06-22-2008, 03:22 PM
This match is closed.
Final vote tally:
Brooke
-none-
Xirk
TheOftViewer (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=16887779&postcount=17)
StrawHat4Life (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=16901765&postcount=18)
Cyphon25 (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=16901908&postcount=19)
MrChubz (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=16902880&postcount=20)
Vagrant Tom (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=16904869&postcount=21)
Kuya (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=16905906&postcount=22)
Xirk wins with a count of 6-0
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