2012: The Year the Internet Ends

[RyRyMini]

I looked a few pages and searched to see if this has already been made but I didn't see it. I imagine it has to be up somewhere - and if so, I'll delete this.

http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality2
Bell Canada and TELUS (formerly owned by Verizon) employees officially confirm that by 2012 ISP's all over the globe will reduce Internet access to a TV-like subscription model, only offering access to a small standard amount of commercial sites and require extra fees for every other site you visit. These 'other' sites would then lose all their exposure and eventually shut down, resulting in what could be seen as the end of the Internet.On the site above there is a youtube video which explains this throughly.

If it's tl;dr for you, the internet is about to become this by 2012 (maybe sooner or later) if no action is taken.

http://ipower.ning.com/extensions/gfx/netneutrality.jpg

[Sasori-puppet#66]

:uwah This is horrifying.

[Saufsoldat]

So TELUS does that and you expect others to follow? Bullshit, nobody's gonna give up this rich market.

[PerveeSage]

the end of the world is nigh!

[RyRyMini]

TELUS has apparently confirmed that they're not the only ones in it - as it says, ISPs all over the globe.

[Vicious-chan]

lol.. that's gonna cause a riot

[Saufsoldat]

TELUS has apparently confirmed that they're not the only ones in it - as it says, ISPs all over the globe.

And as I said, no sane capitalist would give up the rich market of the internet. That and the fact that they'd break the law.

[The Sharingan_Avenger]

Fuk dem. I'm keeping my net.

[zornedge]

I think this is just one of the issues of Net Neutrality which is currently being breached by Comcast (or was it Time Warner?) that decided to set up fixed prices for a collection of sites you can access, and if you accessed other sites, there were minor fees.

I would cut services with this company so fast it wouldn't be funny, but if this "model" continues henceforth, then there's no real choice except to go underground.

Edit: Here's a link to an article for the bandwidth capping that Time Warner wishes to do and is undergoing a trial period now. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Time-Warner-Cable-To-Start-PerGigabyte-Fee-Trial-On-Thursday-94941

[BrianTheGoldfish]

http://www.humpjones.com/img/fuck_that_shit.jpg

Seriously. Fuck it to hell.

Pardon my French, but god damn. :argh

[Vicious-chan]

I think this is just one of the issues of Net Neutrality which is currently being breached by Comcast (or was it Time Warner?) that decided to set up fixed prices for a collection of sites you can access, and if you accessed other sites, there were minor fees.

I would cut services with this company so fast it wouldn't be funny, but if this "model" continues henceforth, then there's no real choice except to go underground.

or.. riot!! MIGHT MAKES RIGHT! (the fools who don't believe it's true in this world are soo naive and delusional)

[Dionysus]

Haha. That is a crock of bullshit. Any ISP who tries that will no longer be in the internet business. If Telus does it, other Canadian ISPs will nod their head and then not do it to steal business. Then you have the resellers whom the large line owners are forced to sell to. They wouldn't follow along either.

It's the perfect excuse to nationalize the cable and fiber. A wet dream for some.

"All over the world." Hahaha. I can't see European ISPs or Asian ISPs following along. European ones are heavily regulated, and ordinary citizens have more say over that regulation than in North America. I can see this being an American initiative, if the conspiracy does exist. Media companies pushing for content restriction.

No, no. They might dream of doing it, but the reality would slap them in the face.

[dreams lie]

:lmao :lmao

I don't see this happening anytime soon. Or anytime at all. :lmao

[Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki]

The source seems extremely unreliable. However i see the point of the idea.

And as I said, no sane capitalist would give up the rich market of the internet. That and the fact that they'd break the law.

You fail to realize that this is exactly the decision ISPs would love. It's the corporate dream. Right now, internet is basically "free". As long as you can pay an ISP for a connection, you can host your own shit. By restricting this ability, they can suck more money out of people while at the same time preventing competition. Small companies would basically be killed off entirely and thus prevent competition (competition is bad for companies)

This is why we need a Net Neutrality law. To prevent developement like this.

[Black Wraith]

One company does it the rest will wave their hands to say good bye and then swim in the market share that is up for grabs.

Pure genius.

[Saufsoldat]

You fail to realize that this is exactly the decision ISPs would love. It's the corporate dream. Right now, internet is basically "free". As long as you can pay an ISP for a connection, you can host your own shit. By restricting this ability, they can suck more money out of people while at the same time preventing competition. Small companies would basically be killed off entirely and thus prevent competition (competition is bad for companies)

This is why we need a Net Neutrality law. To prevent developement like this.

lolwut? It would prevent competition? It would throw the ISP out of business and smaller companies would overtake their business.

One company does it the rest will wave their hands to say good bye and then swim in the market share that is up for grabs.

Pure genius.

That exactly.

[Tsukiyomi]

I really don't see this happening. If the ISPs did this all it would take is for a single ISP to not do it and people would flock to them in droves. I know the vast majority of people I know would jump ship if their ISP pulled that.

[RyRyMini]

Plenty of valid points have been made, and it doesn't make much sense for them to do this.

I think I'll wait until this appears on a major news provider before I form an opinion...

[Captain Apoo]

This is very interesting and not unplausible: just look at the stroke those companies at the top have: MSN, AOL, NBC would be pushing hard for something like this and if they grease the ISPs enough, it's a done deal.

[Orochimaru]

Well at least it had a good run.

[Hwon]

I do believe their are laws against companies or businesses agreeing to uniformally change the rate or cost of services, giving consumers no options, and making it impossible for future competition to emerge. At least in the United States.

[Dionysus]

This is very interesting and not unplausible: just look at the stroke those companies at the top have: MSN, AOL, NBC would be pushing hard for something like this and if they grease the ISPs enough, it's a done deal.
In America! :awesome (Sad to say, Canada could get lumped in there if the CRTC doesn't do its job. That's often the case though.) Do you think this would fly in Europe? South Korea, Japan? Bah.

[Ryuk]

I seriously doubt this.

[Captain Apoo]

In America! :awesome (Sad to say, Canada could get lumped in there if the CRTC doesn't do its job. That's often the case though.) Do you think this would fly in Europe? South Korea, Japan? Bah.

Other companies liek BSkyB, BBC, basically the biggest corps in the world would band together to monopolise this shit.

[Black Wraith]

The BBC would get butchered if they even thought of such a thing.

We pay them through taxes and they are bound by that.

[Itachi's Apprentice 3]

The internet is forever :zaru.

[Captain Apoo]

The BBC would get butchered if they even thought of such a thing.

We pay them through taxes and they are bound by that.

We pay a "tax" to them but they can do whatever they want with that money. All their "job" is as a public service broadcaster is to provide niche content to their viewers and they could probably do that better if they were one of the few sites we were limited to using.

[redott]

Jaysus Christ, I really can't imagine the majority of people putting up with this,the internet won't end,people will just go batshit and riot.

[Light Artist]

The higher ups of these companies will get bullets in their heads if they succumb to this. Society has become completely and totally dependent on the vast expanse of the internet. Everybody will raise hell.

[Catterix]

But... how exactly would this happen? Is this going to be a gradual decline? Is it already happening now? Or is that by the time in 2012 when the ISPs reach this quantity that there'll suddenly be an implosion, reducing the internet to this TV like subscription?

Hopefully Naruto will be over by then, so my main leeway into internet downloading will be finished :P

[Dionysus]

Other companies liek BSkyB, BBC, basically the biggest corps in the world would band together to monopolise this shit.
Telecommunications monopolies are the kind that get broken up. (Probably due to how obvious they are and how they directly affect people's entertainment.) It's happened in the US before. Canada. Europe has very strict laws against it and collusion. Hell, the EU forced telcos to lower roaming rates recently.

The US does have strong laws too, but it depends on how pissed off the grassroots become. I'm thinking very pissed off.

[Robot-Overlord]

2012? the internet is not free any more? 0h SH- the Maya where rigth!
ITS THE END !!1:argh

[iLurk]

This is so bullsh-t.

I hate the people who are ignorant, and don't seek the real truth.

iPower are money and power hungry. They make up bullshit stories like this so their could get on television.

If you remember, on May 29, 2008, Canada passed a Net Neutrality bill.

The "Telecommunications Act" stops network operators tinkering with our network connection.

This is complete bogus.

Thank you for your time.

P.S. -- F-cking read my comment before you post "WHAT!? NO NET NEUTRALITY IN CANDA?" or this sort of trash

[Avenger2112]

If they do that they had better be bullet proof:bang

[Lain]

It's called fresh air. In 2012, maybe you'll all taste some.

[itachiapprentice]

I looked a few pages and searched to see if this has already been made but I didn't see it. I imagine it has to be up somewhere - and if so, I'll delete this.

http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality2
On the site above there is a youtube video which explains this throughly.

If it's tl;dr for you, the internet is about to become this by 2012 (maybe sooner or later) if no action is taken.

http://ipower.ning.com/extensions/gfx/netneutrality.jpg

This is gonna suck:mad

[kingcools]

yeah sure, free market wont let them do that ^^ if one ISP would do that, he would instantly be fucked. therefore this wont happen

[Juanita Tequila]

2012 is the end of the world anyways.

So why bother? :zaru

[Kyasurin Yakuto]

That's messed up. I hope it doesn't happen. >_<

It seems really far out and hard to believe though so hopefully that really is the case because I don't want this to happen.

[raisin-gun]

good thing i have Eastlink not Telus. Telus's services in every telecommunicational aspect sucks in my opinion. everyone will leave telus and move to another ISP IMO so i dont see how this benifits anyone

[nindragon]

Maybe by then we'd be using something other than the Internet. :)

[Z.:M:.Z]

lol.. that's gonna cause a riot

Exactly dude, And ill be apart of it. :zaru

[vervex]

This is fake. It's extremely unlikely that any company, especially in Canada which is a carbon copy of United States most of the time, would try to limit the world wide web, an unlimited source of communication without any boundaries.

Also, I don't trust a reporter with such cleavage. This show is totally unprofessional.

I'll leave it to the Café mods to decide if they wanna trash this thread or not.

[The Space Cowboy]

2012 is the new Y2K

[iLurk]

Trash it.

I've posted evidence, beyond doubt, that Canada's networking WOULD NOT be limited.

We've already f-cking passed a bill.

If they're going to limit my access, I can sue them for millions.

[chaosakita]

This would be completely awful it ever happened.

[Kuu]

If this actually was true I'd be pretty sad for the most part. But I just don't believe it. It's far from logical. =|

[DaNuKA_SAN]

Probably you will see this develop into a business only secure net for safe data transfer, but it would be almost impossible to go from what we have now as an infrastructure to what they're aiming for in 4 years time. Utterly impossible.

The way the net is standardized at the moment, the cost and requirements to switch would be beyond the scope of any one company, and it would require lots of mergers...which would negate earnings imo since in order to diversify afterwards...the scope is huge...let's just leave it at that.

(oh and 2032 is the next Y2K...because of linux...just fyi...)

edit: also just wanted to add...sadly also due to how the internet works...errr...I mean...you can't do shit without the ISP infrastructure almost...

I want to however stress a point on how this would be a loss for the higher levels with smaller providers coming along. The thing is smaller providers would buy what we would call "THE MEGA PACK" of internet services in bulk and then agree with other smaller providers to share or sell acces to the pack from their customers. Obviously the bigger ones would try to ratify this...
However I wanted to add when I was speaking about how the net is currently designed...nothing would stop people from setting up an abstract encrypted layer VPN of sorts over whatever they put in place and release it as Open-Source.
An example we already have of this is the Tor net.

[Tokoyami]

...

No.......just no.

[spaZ]

I highly doubt all of "us" the internet users would allow this to happen.

[Acidblood7]

Wow 2 nobody companies, or as I consider them, and the only thing Verizon is worth is there FIOS, which they don't serve everywhere. So ya Verizon biggest network my ass.

[Nodonn]

Don't believe Athene people, move along.

[DaNuKA_SAN]

Also important, here are the ACTUAL players we have to look at...these guys are the "backbone" of the internet, literally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_carrier

As you can see they're all american, almost.

Anyways the french could always go back to using the minitel...

edit: to the gentleman above, Verizon is a Tier 1 player...be afraid...

Our best chance it seems is to push the Japanese government due to their partial ownership of NTT, a Tier 1 provider. I doubt the other companies would dare loose NTT seeing as that would sever business networking which would be amount to suicide.

[Vicious-chan]

(oh and 2032 is the next Y2K...because of linux...just fyi...).

2012 is the new Y2K

it's actually 2038 and because of unix 32 bit memory for time :P know your binary people!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

[muad'dib]

I don't think any ISP would actually do this. :/

[DaNuKA_SAN]

Actually it's linux's fault...shit had to go get popular and find itself on almost every server in the world...

As for me...my copy of unbuntu 64bit is safe for the foreseeable 290 billion years to come...

[|)/-\\/\/|\|]

That's not gonna happen, we will burn them all!!!

[Vicious-chan]

no, it's unix.. you know unix was first right? and linux came from unix (to a degree) >.> OS X and XP (and I think vista) are Unix based now too. Every OS has a foot in with Unix. That's why they are called "Unix-Based OS"

[DaNuKA_SAN]

XP/Vista is NT based...

The joke went over your head with linux...don't fret lol

/headpat

[Outlandish]

yeah this is why i signed off virgin and switched to o2 :D

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

Look at it this way the Internet is a multi billion dollar industry, but no one uses corporate sites really. No one goes to Coca Cola.com as much as they come here, no one goes to most of the sites for major companies and unless a company takes ownership in other sites and advertises on them to keep them online, no one is going to stay on that ISP.

People would cancel their web browsing if they were restricted to not having freedom, that's why so many people are against the plans that Virgin has in place. There is also the whole bandwidth cap that has been threatened by comcast.

No one is going to pay for shitty service where they are restricted to a few sites or restricted to having to wait longer for the sites they actually want to go to.

[Byakuya]

The world would break down.

[Psycho]

NET NEUTRALITY!!!!! let's keep it how it must be!!

[batanga]

2012? COINCIDENCE? I think not!

[Vicious-chan]

Dem crazy Mayans D:

[Blaze of Glory]

They can kiss my ass

Like hell I,ll let that shit happen

[L. Lawliet]

This is not very plausible.

More money can probably be made with free internet than with paid service; number of customers will drop horribly.

[maximilyan]

telus will fall and die in fire. no other service provider will follow suite.

[-Deidara-]

What Is The Point Of Anything Anymore :facepalm

[Wolfy]

:shrug

Whatever. I mean, really. If this happens, no one's really going to follow suit. Why restrict the net when you can keep it the way it is and watch the millions flock to you because a few other companies decided to limit it?
But, frankly, I think this whole thing is BS, especially since it just happens to be in 2012. There's so many damn conspiracy theories about that year it's not even funny.
I'd be more apt to believe that the world would end in 2012 than this.

[GrimaH]

It's fake news, stop replying to it.

[Chee]

2012 is the end of the world anyways.

So why bother? :zaru

We have to plan the huge party before the end. :zaru

[2Shea]

Lmao yeah, fake news is fake. It'd be a cold day in hell before this happened lol.

[BAD BD]

Srsly the world ends in 2012.:WOW

[Chee]

Lmao yeah, fake news is fake. It'd be a cold day in hell before this happened lol.

By saying fake news is fake...does that make it real? :pek

[Sexta Espada]

You fail to realize that this is exactly the decision ISPs would love. It's the corporate dream. Right now, internet is basically "free". As long as you can pay an ISP for a connection, you can host your own shit. By restricting this ability, they can suck more money out of people while at the same time preventing competition. Small companies would basically be killed off entirely and thus prevent competition (competition is bad for companies)

This is why we need a Net Neutrality law. To prevent developement like this.
Except like said before, the one that doesn't do it will make all the money. The whole of NF, and pretty much every other internet forum for example would leave. That's alot of money lost.

[♠Mr.Nibbles♠]

My stubborness makes this very hard for me to believe b/c if the internet shuts done many businesses that rely on the internet will be effected.

The global economy for goodness sake will take a major set back. With the global economy in so much problems as is something like this will be detrimental.

[Rayy-Chull<3]

so they want me to pay extra so i can google something or watch a video of some kid falling off a bike?:pek
Just see how far they get....:LOS

[kulgan18]

The point is if they really wanted they could.

All they have to do is have all the major companies agree to those terms, and next thing you know you are browsing narutofan at 1kb/s, while the big sites get unlimited speed.

Why do you think they keep pushing and pushing for this idea despite how every time people protest it? obviously there is BIG corporation money involved to this(and am talking big).
Enough money to make the ISPs interesed.

And people like the RIAA and MPAA would love it too. You are basically destroying everything that is annoying for the big corporations and governments in one big move.

After all the shit ISP have been seen doing, like restricting P2P access, you really think that they are above this?.

The have the same mentality as them.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

The point is if they really wanted they could.

All they have to do is have all the major companies agree to those terms, and next thing you know you are browsing narutofan at 1kb/s, while the big sites get unlimited speed.

Why do you think they keep pushing and pushing for this idea despite how every time people protest it? obviously there is BIG corporation money involved to this(and am talking big).
Enough money to make the ISPs interesed.

And people like the RIAA and MPAA would love it too. You are basically destroying everything that is annoying for the big corporations and governments in one big move.

After all the shit ISP have been seen doing, like restricting P2P access, you really think that they are above this?.

The have the same mentality as them.

But big companies won't keep their money in a sinking ship. People aren't going to keep paying for the service if it doesn't work.

[Chlorine]

HOLY SHITPISSFUCK!
THE MAYANS WERE RIGHT!

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

HOLY SHITPISSFUCK!
THE MAYANS WERE RIGHT!

Oh my God, the Mayans were right, its Queen Elizabeth's Diamond Jubilee. Whatever will we do?

[Traveler]

They would go out of business in 10 days or less if they ever do this :zaru.

[Cardboard Tube Knight]

My point exactly.

[Denji]

Just try and take my Internet.:sun

[nanni]

:lmao right I believe you

[Lezard Valeth]

This thread is a bad joke. :facepalm
---------------> Landfill

[LouDAgreat]

I guess thats what happens when Corporate interests take over free-roaming internet. Anything for a profit. If taking over non costly free services gave Corporations a little profit, they would go after it in no hurry.
I hope this is stopped. I hope people all over the world protest what is happening here. We must and we will.

[auto-matic]

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

[Chlorine]

:zaru:zaru:zaru
In before landfill :edu

[Lezard Valeth]

Why is this thread still alive? :facepalm
It's a ridiculous fake. It's terrifying to see how much people are buying anything they're told without looking for evidence.

[Chlorine]

We all die in 2012, so whats the point? :zaru

[Chu-kun♥]

Wait,is that the complete internet...Because if it's the complete internet,and not just Version's internet then......:cry That's utter terror,the end of the world terrible... Okay,maybe only 8/9[or 7/8] as terrible as that but..
Hm,a joke..Evil Verison and their anti-internet jokes :P

[Xenuftw]

Hmm. Well i suppose if they all did it this would work, but then again what business has ever been honest?

Simpe really, if they did this the internet would die, it's been built on being a place of freedom, and if you have to pay it's not a freedom it's just a dom, and we all know dom sucks balls.

Now the simple way to counter this would be to create an isp who does the normal thing now, thus getting all the people and making a second microsoft, a microsoft which is greater and more powerful than ever before.

Honestly, it's not going to happen. People will just not pay it, or go to an ISP who's not doing it and oh happy days this new dooms day theory gets flushed down the loo.

[Hustler]

i would still post in Nf through telephone :sun they are not stopping me :kukuku

[Saufsoldat]

We all die in 2012, so whats the point? :zaru

We die in December 2012, I'd like to use the internet in my last 11 months on earth :pek

[Nao Yuki]

I needz my internet friends!:scry

[element_fighter]

:sparta they will not take the internet! or they will have a fight on their hands

[Azure Flame Kite]

I've never even heard of these people...

[desjr]

Very interesting thread.

[Axl Low]

http://www.humpjones.com/img/fuck_that_shit.jpg

Seriously. Fuck it to hell.

Pardon my French, but god damn. :argh

I have to agree.

[S.A.S]

No kid <.........>