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Sasuke X
04-28-2008, 01:21 PM
Will Cornelia be the 5th geass user? :mad

I forgot about Mao when I made this post. My bad.

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If you remember, she was wounded and unable to do anything other than sit at the end of S1. When Orange appeared, she collapsed. Spinner then turned up for directions, Cornelia knighted him and she was never seen again.

Surprisingly, it was revealed during EP4 that Cornelia is MIA; not KIA. The only explanation is that someone moved her body before the local government could find her... I can't see her, a goddess of war, deciding to abandon Britannia for no reason.

I see 2 options:

1: Snigger
He headed out Japan to support Cornelia during the chaos. It's unknown what happened after he arrived.

We know Snigger moved Marianne's body - Cornelia told Lelouch. What we don't know is why he would've moved Cornelia's corpse, but it's possible he did since we know he has corpse moving tendencies.

2: V.V.
He likes kidnapping people.

Since he's there to give Lelouch problems, it's possible he took Cornelia, saved her, explained to her about Lelouch and gave her a geass to combat him. It would certainly make for an interesting twist.

I'm going with #2. It seems pointless for her to be MIA if she isn't going to appear later and cause Lelouch problems. It's not that unlikely when the geass user count has already been increased by 2 in the first 4 episodes of S2.

Mr. Stud Muffin
04-28-2008, 01:24 PM
^^^^ I have seen the second theory before...and although it is certainly a possible...I am hoping that it won't simply because Cornerlia is not someone I want with a geass. I would much rather that the show introduces a new character with a geass.

Rukia
04-28-2008, 01:40 PM
Cornelia is hanging out with Marianne somewhere. Both of them surprisingly...are alive. That's my theory. :zaru

I doubt she will have a geass...although I think it would be awesome if she came back more formidable than ever. I like her more than any of the other Royals I have seen so far. I'd like to see her get some payback on Lelouch.

It's hard for me to imagine her being alive though. Why wouldn't she appear when Guilford temporarily became the Governor General? If anything would draw her out, that seems like the type of thing to do it.

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-28-2008, 01:52 PM
Cornelia is probably going to make the kind of return Orange-kun did at the end of season 1! :nuts

Or, if she indeed gets a Geass, she might be the new Mao of this season...

Marsala
04-28-2008, 01:58 PM
Cornelia will probably return, but her major role in the story is done. Lelouch beat her and learned everything that she knew about Marianne's death.

If any others are likely to get a Geass, they are Suzaku and Nunnally. Suzaku has been strongly implied to be a Geass potential (seeing ghostly image of C.C. in episode 22) and Nunnally... well... never trust a character who keeps her eyes always closed in a series where special eye powers are of critical importance.

Rukia
04-28-2008, 02:07 PM
Cornelia will probably return, but her major role in the story is done. Lelouch beat her and learned everything that she knew about Marianne's death.

If any others are likely to get a Geass, they are Suzaku and Nunnally. Suzaku has been strongly implied to be a Geass potential (seeing ghostly image of C.C. in episode 22) and Nunnally... well... never trust a character who keeps her eyes always closed in a series where special eye powers are of critical importance.lol, Schneizel might have a chance of having some sort of geass power. Probably unlikely though since the Emperor didn't show him that sword of Akasha.

Suzaku with a geass? Man...that would piss a lot of people off. Me included. But I think it's almost a certainty. That's why he was able to sense CC in the Gawain. :facepalm

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-28-2008, 02:29 PM
Suzaku with a geass? Man...that would piss a lot of people off. Me included. But I think it's almost a certainty. That's why he was able to sense CC in the Gawain. :facepalm

Plus there's the fact that V.V. is shown at his side in the OP, which is just about the best hint there is for him eventually getting a Geass.. :facepalm

Sasuke X
04-28-2008, 02:33 PM
Cornelia will probably return, but her major role in the story is done. Lelouch beat her and learned everything that she knew about Marianne's death.

That's why it's odd that the writers have kept her in the story...

The only way for her to make an impression on the series now is for her to have a geass - She's no longer a governor, nor does she have an army to command. It would be pointless to bring her back if she's not going to have a geass power to make her interesting.

Of course, she may still be dead, but I can't see why she wasn't announced as dead if that's the case. She certainly wasn't another C.C. or V.V., so there wasn't any reason to use her body for testing purposes or anything.

Right now, with S2 being a repeat of S1, I'm going to go with the theory that she's the Mao of S2.

Goodfellow
04-28-2008, 02:43 PM
Actually, I think she's just in mourning. She's hiding somewhere, cursing Zero and missing her lost Euphemia:nod

Soon enough, she'll return, screaming ZEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Rukia
04-28-2008, 02:49 PM
Actually, I think she's just in mourning. She's hiding somewhere, cursing Zero and missing her lost Euphemia:nod

Soon enough, she'll return, screaming ZEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!Hmm. ..no chance of Cornelia trying to persuade Lelouch to give up his madness then? I always sort of hoped that Cornelia and Lelouch would be able to have at least one sentimental chat at some point. (One of my biggest disappointments from the first season.) It's unlikely because of the whole Euphemia thing...but maybe, just maybe...Cornelia discovered something. I don't know...about Marianne. Maybe she blames the Emperor for everything? (lol, a lot of maybe's.)

Prince Leon
04-28-2008, 03:46 PM
I don't see any reason for Cornelia having Geass. Unless it's just for the purpose of increasing the number of people who possess Geass.

Zarigani
04-28-2008, 03:47 PM
Isn't she dead?

Prince Leon
04-28-2008, 03:52 PM
Cornelia didn't die. She was revealed to be MIA/in hiding long before the second season started.

Sasuke X
04-28-2008, 03:55 PM
I don't see any reason for Cornelia having Geass. Unless it's just for the purpose of increasing the number of people who possess Geass.

What's the point of her being alive if she has no power to do anything?

Wesley
04-28-2008, 03:59 PM
What's the point of her being alive if she has no power to do anything?

It's there in case they want to do something with it.

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-28-2008, 04:00 PM
What's the point of her being alive if she has no power to do anything?

She'll have the power to make a desperate last charge against Lelouch, of course! :zaru

Rukia
04-28-2008, 04:06 PM
They like having a lot of people against Lelouch that he doesn't know about. At the end of the first season...Viletta has gained her memory and knows his identity. Shirley has also figured it out. Jeremiah is still alive and has been turned into a machine with an unstoppable Knightmare. Nina is planning on nuking the school in an attempt to take Zero with her. Suzaku has been informed of geass, and has been able to figure out Lelouch's identity as a result.

Cornelia is alive to be another one of these factors that Lelouch is unable to predict. He will be on the verge of achieving a great victory in a future battle, but Cornelia will interfere and cost him dearly.

Prince Leon
04-28-2008, 04:07 PM
What's the point of her being alive if she has no power to do anything?

Last I checked Cornelia doesn't need Geass to be able to do anything.

Rukia
04-28-2008, 04:08 PM
Another good reason for bringing Cornelia back? She's a hottie. Obviously hotties aren't needed as much as they used to be with Anya around...but she's still a good addition to the Britannian roster. :nod

Sasuke X
04-28-2008, 04:09 PM
Cornelia is alive to be another one of these factors that Lelouch is unable to predict. He will be on the verge of achieving a great victory in a future battle, but Cornelia will interfere and cost him dearly.

How? Her knightmare was destroyed and if she was planning on changing the course of a battle she'd need men - She obviously doesn't want support since she's abandoned her position and not contacted Guilford.

Unless someone has turned her body into a cyborg...thing like Orange, the only way she can cause problems for Lelouch is by using a geass. The way she's chosen to remain missing tells me she's going to appear randomly at the end of one of the episodes, that episode ending with her geass reveal.

Prince Leon
04-28-2008, 04:13 PM
Cornelia has already proven she doesn't need Geass to fight equally against Lelouch.

We don't need another Geass-user so soon just for the sake of having one. Otherwise it'd turn out just as bad as DBZ and Bleach giving out SS-forms and Bankai like they were water.

Sasuke X
04-28-2008, 04:18 PM
Cornelia has no army to command using her strategic skills and no knightmare to ride. We've only seen her command armies and pilot a knightmare so far, so her past abilities are meaningless at this stage.

It's obvious someone got to her before the local government: She couldn't have gone anywhere in her condition and would've been put into an hospital if she was left. The only question is who took her, and there are very few candidates who would've done so...

Zarigani
04-28-2008, 04:19 PM
Cornelia didn't die. She was revealed to be MIA/in hiding long before the second season started.

So when she returns, we will see her pretty pissed at Zero, huh?:laugh

Prince Leon
04-28-2008, 04:24 PM
^Most likely.

Cornelia has no army to command using her strategic skills and no knightmare to ride. We've only seen her command armies and pilot a knightmare so far, so her past abilities are meaningless at this stage.

So the solution to all of that would be to give her Geass? I'd hope the writers are more creative than that. Otherwise they might as well give Suzaku or Nina Geass as well.

And as for the thread title, anyone else who gets Geass would be the 5th not the 4th. In order of appearance: Lelouch, Mao, Charles, Rollo.

Rukia
04-28-2008, 04:26 PM
Cornelia will be brought back as a love interest for Lelouch. :ruri

Sasuke X
04-28-2008, 04:31 PM
And as for the thread title, anyone else who gets Geass would be the 5th not the 4th. In order of appearance: Lelouch, Mao, Charles, Rollo.

Bah, I forgot about Mao when I posted the thread. Shite.

I don't want her to have a geass either; this geass stuff is getting old. I would've preferred her to be dead in all honesty, she played her role in S1 and her character had a good run. Bringing her back in any form seems weak on the writing side, which doesn't surprise me after watching EP1-4 of S2.

She could be given a new, all powerful super knightmare, but that would be even weaker writing than bringing her back with a geass. :/

Fleecy
04-28-2008, 08:01 PM
I don't think Cornelia will get the Geass... If anyone I think it'd be Nunnally next.

KuwabaraTheMan
04-28-2008, 08:02 PM
Cornelia has no army to command using her strategic skills and no knightmare to ride. We've only seen her command armies and pilot a knightmare so far, so her past abilities are meaningless at this stage.

Um, and?

With her position it would be pretty damn easy to obtain a new Knightmare, not to mention that Guillford has control of a lot of me, and he's under Cornellia's control, even if they're out of contact.

Aavalon
04-28-2008, 08:05 PM
She could have been used as another Orange-kun experiment. Mech-Cornelia on her way.

Nominal23
04-28-2008, 09:19 PM
I hope she doesn't get a geass, we have enough geass users around. I do, however, hope she's still alive. I think Zero needs someone to match him on the battlefield in terms of commanding / giving orders. :LOS

Sasuke X
04-28-2008, 09:29 PM
Um, and?

With her position it would be pretty damn easy to obtain a new Knightmare, not to mention that Guillford has control of a lot of me, and he's under Cornellia's control, even if they're out of contact.

...and if her plan was to command an army against Lelouch she would still be governor of Area 11 - She's gone into exile for a reason or been forced into exile. Either way, she's not going to restart commanding the Britannia army after playing dead for over a year.

If she returns, she'll be alone. Since she can't do anything alone without a super knightmare (and her jumping out in a new knightmare to surprise Lelouch would be awful storytelling), I'm betting she'll return with a geass to shock viewers. I don't see why else she'd abandon Britannia if she hadn't acquired a godly new power.

The other option (aside from Snigger + necrophilia) is that the research team who experimented on Orange took her body to experiment with. I can't see them taking that sort of risk with the body of the 2nd Princess - They could've used any body.

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-28-2008, 09:32 PM
I think Zero needs someone to match him on the battlefield in terms of commanding / giving orders. :LOS

Isn't that Schneizel's role? <_<.

Rurushu
04-29-2008, 12:20 AM
Cornelia is a tough opponent even without an Geass,why would Cornelia want an ability that would bring to her even more sadness,she seened what the Geass did to her Brother Lelouch,I highly doubt she will wanted to follow in his footsteps,even if it is to get revenge against him.

Also,I doubt Cornelia is alive and even coming back to Britannia.

Wesley
04-29-2008, 12:54 AM
She sounds like a fodder villian Lulu stepped on on his way to Stardom. The fact she's probably a good looking girl is the only reason anyone is speculating.

Mr. Stud Muffin
04-29-2008, 01:00 AM
She sounds like a fodder villian Lulu stepped on on his way to Stardom. The fact she's probably a good looking girl is the only reason anyone is speculating.

Game. Set. Match.

KuwabaraTheMan
04-29-2008, 02:57 AM
...and if her plan was to command an army against Lelouch she would still be governor of Area 11 - She's gone into exile for a reason or been forced into exile. Either way, she's not going to restart commanding the Britannia army after playing dead for over a year.

If she returns, she'll be alone. Since she can't do anything alone without a super knightmare (and her jumping out in a new knightmare to surprise Lelouch would be awful storytelling), I'm betting she'll return with a geass to shock viewers. I don't see why else she'd abandon Britannia if she hadn't acquired a godly new power.

Returning with a new Knightmare would be bad storytelling, but returning with a geass power to shock viewers wouldn't be?

I think a new Knightmare would make a lot more sense logistically. MIA or not, the Crown Princess has plenty of ways to acquire a new Knightmare.

We also don't know if she's abandonned Britannia. I highly doubt it. Guilford hasn't heard from her, but that doesn't mean that she's left the nation as a whole. That remains to be seen.

Juanita Tequila
04-29-2008, 03:05 AM
Oh god no. There's too many Geass users as is! If there's anymore then it would be overkill. D:

Prince Leon
04-29-2008, 04:34 AM
She sounds like a fodder villian Lulu stepped on on his way to Stardom. The fact she's probably a good looking girl is the only reason anyone is speculating.

Wrong. Yet again. :facepalm

It's baseless comments like these that prove you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Jetstorm
04-29-2008, 04:49 AM
I'm doubting her having a Geass but I do believe her return will either reveal something to Lelouch or give him fits when he is on the verge of victory.

Also Suzaku's spin kick is enough hax. Him having a Geass is overkill. :ruri

Graham Aker
04-29-2008, 06:39 AM
Probably out there, trying to find out what the fuck happened to Euphemia that she started an ethnic cleansing, which is OOC of her, which would ultimately lead to her discovering the Geass.

As for what happened in 25... well, the doctors might have gotten to her and tended her wounds, after that, she just, bolted the fuck out fo there. Cornelia is a bright lass, she must also be wondering why the fuck couldn't she remember Zero' identity(even though lawl, she wasn't Geass to forget). She can't do it if she's Governor-General because of her duties and the attention.

And I imagine she keeps contact with Guilford, only she doesn't tell him where she is.

Cornelia will be brought back as a love interest for Lelouch. :ruri
Nah, Lelouch will decapitated her with a bazooka.

No half-incest in CG, nope. Sunrise = jerks for not giving us what we want.

I want a Nina table orgy.

Wesley
04-29-2008, 12:12 PM
Wrong. Yet again. :facepalm

It's baseless comments like these that prove you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

"Sounds like" and "probably" are meant to imply that. :pek

Though your belief she actually stood a chance against a main character like Lulu is equally suspect. :zaru

Sasuke X
04-29-2008, 12:29 PM
Wesley, you seriously need to stop posting about a series you haven't watched. If you're trying to somehow look smart by showing how you know the series without watching it you're failing.

Returning with a new Knightmare would be bad storytelling, but returning with a geass power to shock viewers wouldn't be?

I think a new Knightmare would make a lot more sense logistically. MIA or not, the Crown Princess has plenty of ways to acquire a new Knightmare.

We also don't know if she's abandonned Britannia. I highly doubt it. Guilford hasn't heard from her, but that doesn't mean that she's left the nation as a whole. That remains to be seen.

*Cornelia jumps out from behind a knightmare sized bush* Cornelia: ZERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRO!

I've been waiting 1 year for this moment - To jump out and surprise you with my new super mecha; the Eupheminator. Even though I could still be using the Eupheminator against you with an army behind me, I decided to do the stupid thing - Give up my position, my friends and my dog - In order for Rollo to appear behind me and kill me... Wait, who the hell wrote this shit?

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...There's a good reason for her to have disappeared if she's discovered the truth and gained a geass. With understanding and a super-natural power, planning to kill Lelouch when the chance reveals itself (he has been guarded by Britannia up until now) by herself wouldn't be quite as stupid as jumping out in a super mecha and screaming ZEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRROOOOOO. Her having geass could also reveal some information about V.V. though flashbacks, where as her jumping out in a mecha would not add anything to the overall plot.

Rob_Zero
04-29-2008, 12:42 PM
Wesley, you seriously need to stop posting about a series you haven't watched. If you're trying to somehow look smart by showing how you know the series without watching it you're failing.

Keep telling him that and he's just going to neg you. Wesley thinks he has a right to troll for a series he hasn't even watched just because he didn't like the first episode and is confounded by its popularity.

Wesley
04-29-2008, 12:55 PM
Wesley, you seriously need to stop posting about a series you haven't watched. If you're trying to somehow look smart by showing how you know the series without watching it you're failing.

As much as I admit that I haven't actually watched the series, you'd think it'd be obvious by now that that isn't the case. :notrust What I am doing is showing my contempt for a popular series by applying the standard fair to it. (Good looking) Female characters = worthless/motiviators. Defeated villians = obscurity/converts. Main character = invincible ambition.

Keep telling him that and he's just going to neg you. Wesley thinks he has a right to troll for a series he hasn't even watched just because he didn't like the first episode and is confounded by its popularity.

I want to neg you again, but I can't. :(

The only series who's popularity has confounded me lately is Gundam OO's. I actually watched that and that people actually liked it baffles and frustrates me to no end. Apparently good looking characters acting out in whatever way they choose is popular with a large audience.

Rob_Zero
04-29-2008, 01:09 PM
I want to neg you again, but I can't. :(

The only series who's popularity has confounded me lately is Gundam OO's. I actually watched that and that people actually liked it baffles and frustrates me to no end. Apparently good looking characters acting out in whatever way they choose is popular with a large audience.

The ultra-pedantic man in me wants to tell you that "whose" is the posessive form and that "who's" is only "who is".

Anyways, whatever. I won't see your neg anyway since you're on my ignore list. And the fact that you're not trolling out of confoundment of the popularity makes no difference, since you're still trolling out of pure dislike for the series.

Wesley
04-29-2008, 01:16 PM
The ultra-pedantic man in me wants to tell you that "whose" is the posessive form and that "who's" is only "who is".

Anyways, whatever. I won't see your neg anyway since you're on my ignore list. And the fact that you're not trolling out of confoundment of the popularity makes no difference, since you're still trolling out of pure dislike for the series.

I don't mind having grammar pointed out to me. :noworry

And only losers use ignore lists. :pek

Nae'blis
04-29-2008, 02:17 PM
No, this idea should die in hell fire. People who should have Geass are people who wouldn't be powerful otherwise (Emperor excluded since he is the "King"). Might as well give Suzaku a Geass.

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-29-2008, 02:48 PM
No, this idea should die in hell fire. People who should have Geass are people who wouldn't be powerful otherwise (Emperor excluded since he is the "King").

Well, true enough; most people who gets Geass seems to be people who have at one point or another been powerless, But this might've been true to the emperor as well, once upon a time...

Might as well give Suzaku a Geass.

Well, that'd obviously be overkill... but it's not impossible that he'll get one, unfortunately :(

KuwabaraTheMan
04-29-2008, 04:11 PM
*Cornelia jumps out from behind a knightmare sized bush* Cornelia: ZERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRO!

I've been waiting 1 year for this moment - To jump out and surprise you with my new super mecha; the Eupheminator. Even though I could still be using the Eupheminator against you with an army behind me, I decided to do the stupid thing - Give up my position, my friends and my dog - In order for Rollo to appear behind me and kill me... Wait, who the hell wrote this shit?

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...There's a good reason for her to have disappeared if she's discovered the truth and gained a geass. With understanding and a super-natural power, planning to kill Lelouch when the chance reveals itself (he has been guarded by Britannia up until now) by herself wouldn't be quite as stupid as jumping out in a super mecha and screaming ZEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRROOOOOO. Her having geass could also reveal some information about V.V. though flashbacks, where as her jumping out in a mecha would not add anything to the overall plot.

I don't think anyone is calling for her to jump out like an idiot screaming 'Zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeero'.

But that doesn't mean she can't get a new Knightmare frame. Like I said, she has the position to get one without a problem. It would make a lot more sense than her randomly getting Geass.

It would make a lot more sense for her to return when Guillford is getting owned by Lelouch and make a dramatic return turning a losing battle into a winning one. It would also fit with Cornellia's character a lot more.

Pringer Lagann
04-29-2008, 05:52 PM
Nunnally has a better chance of obtaining the Geass.

Marsala
04-29-2008, 06:16 PM
Nunnally has a better chance of obtaining the Geass.

Seriously, she does. When V.V. first introduced himself, Nunnally thought that he was C.C., which suggests that they "felt" the same to her because she is sensitive to Geass-givers like Lelouch and Suzaku.