Regarding Nunnally

[BakaOnna]

I was browsing Asuki's CG forum, and they had some pretty interesting theories regarding her. Well, this show is done by Sunrise, so knowing them, they could actually pull something off like Dark Nannally out of their asses. Not to mention the producers and people are giving these crazy hints.

Here's a list of some of these hints (Warning you now, these are possible future spoilers. Read if you dare.) :
So basically the show, extra materials, and staff/cast interviews keep on throwing out tidbits that Nunnally isn't all she appears to be.
-Nunnally getting "sick" early in the season because Lelouch kept going out so much, and her actions during that scene
-Mao's line "you siblings really are something!" in 16. Nunnally also heard the entire conversation between Lelouch and Mao, including that bit about "you should have said kill, not shoot." She never mentions it though. >_>
-Nunnally's talk with Euphie in 21, where she basically tricks Euphie into answering who she loves, Lelouch or Suzaku. >_>
-Nunnally's phone call to Lelouch in 23 (despite saying in 22 she wouldn't request something like that)
-The sound dramas have highly implied that Nunnally can in fact walk if she wanted to.
-pre-shot in the legs Nunnally has a tendency to mess with other people's things (steals Marianne's hat, breaks Euphie's plate)
-She's a child of Marianne and Charles, and you know all too well what the other one is capable of. C.C. said it herself, the blood doesn't lie.
-In picture drama 8, Nunnally, in a very different sounding voice thinks to herself, "not long after, brother and I would realize that tenderness wasn't the only thing in this world"
-Nunnally's voice actor, Kaori Nazuka, keeps saying creepy things about Nunnally:
--"Nunnally is a girl of many secrets."
--(during episode 16 recording) Nazuka: "can I show 'it' yet?"
Taniguchi: "no, not yet"
--etc.
So... is this seemingly crippled girl more than she seems? Discuss away! :laugh

[Marsala]

There have been a number of hints that Nunnally is more than she seems, but I think that to become a credible villain, she would have to be established as much more than a blind, disabled girl in a wheelchair early in R2. Before hearing recent spoilers, I theorized that Nunnally might be given Euphemia's former position as lieutenant governor of Area 11, probably under Schniezel. After hearing the spoilers...

...it seems that Nunnally will be FULL governor. Needless to say, it's downright terrifying. Why would Nunnally be made governor, unless she was more suited to the position than Clovis or Cornelia?

Also, Nunnally is the foil to Rolo. Rolo seemed to be a sweet, innocent sibling of Lelouch, but he had a terrible dark side. Nunnally is even more sweet and innocent than Rolo, so logically her dark side should be even more... Yeah.

[DukeLaGold]

There have been a number of hints that Nunnally is more than she seems, but I think that to become a credible villain, she would have to be established as much more than a blind, disabled girl in a wheelchair early in R2. Before hearing recent spoilers, I theorized that Nunnally might be given Euphemia's former position as lieutenant governor of Area 11, probably under Schniezel. After hearing the spoilers...

...it seems that Nunnally will be FULL governor. Needless to say, it's downright terrifying. Why would Nunnally be made governor, unless she was more suited to the position than Clovis or Cornelia?

Also, Nunnally is the foil to Rolo. Rolo seemed to be a sweet, innocent sibling of Lelouch, but he had a terrible dark side. Nunnally is even more sweet and innocent than Rolo, so logically her dark side should be even more... Yeah.

Because Nunnally is Lelouch's sole weakness and that the Emperor enjoys toying with people. Just stating the obvious here. >.<

[Rokudaime]

Behold the power of the Evil Nunnaly and her Geass Knightmare

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/961/evilnunallycd1.jpg

You never know, it might really happen.

[Wesley]

So basically...what? She's evil, she isn't evil, she's believed to be evil, dies, but is found she isn't, she's evil, recants, and makes everyone feel bad, or she's evil, she dies, and everyone is happy?

And if she's actually good she's totally worthless. :zaru

What was it I said? Ah yes, when describing the Dune series.

Assholes trying to outdo other assholes at assholery. Applies just as much here as it does in Dune. :noworry

[p0ltergeist]

Here's my theory about Nunally:

Go back to the end of episode 24. Nunally is alone in "that room" at the school, V.V. enters. Nunally says: "Hmm? C.C.-san?". V.V. tells her that she is mistaken. Nunally seems confused by this (She says "But..."). Is there something about C.C. (and V.V.) that Nunally can detect? Or rather are they unique in that she can't detect something from them? We know they are immune to Geass...

Conclusion: Nunally has a Geass. Perhaps a passive one similar to Mao.

[Mr. Stud Muffin]

Here's my theory about Nunally:

Go back to the end of episode 24. Nunally is alone in "that room" at the school, V.V. enters. Nunally says: "Hmm? C.C.-san?". V.V. tells her that she is mistaken. Nunally seems confused by this (She says "But..."). Is there something about C.C. (and V.V.) that Nunally can detect? Or rather are they unique in that she can't detect something from them? We know they are immune to Geass...

Conclusion: Nunally has a Geass. Perhaps a passive one similar to Mao.

now that is a ballsy conclusion if I ever read one...

for 2 reasons...
1. this would mean that C.C. made a contract with Nunally without telling Lelouch...needless to say, Lelouch would probably try to strangle C.C. but to no avail cause she is an "immortal witch"

AND

2. all geass users need working physical eyes. Nunally's case is different. it is said that Nunally's blindness is caused by the emotional trauma of watching her mother die in front of her eyes. Nunally is, perhaps, not physically blind but chooses to be blind (this may draw some criticism).

But yes, it is has been strongly hinted that Nunally is not simply what we know her to be.

And also because of the following:
Because Nunnally is Lelouch's sole weakness and that the Emperor enjoys toying with people. Just stating the obvious here. >.<

[Marsala]

Here's my theory about Nunally:

Go back to the end of episode 24. Nunally is alone in "that room" at the school, V.V. enters. Nunally says: "Hmm? C.C.-san?". V.V. tells her that she is mistaken. Nunally seems confused by this (She says "But..."). Is there something about C.C. (and V.V.) that Nunally can detect? Or rather are they unique in that she can't detect something from them? We know they are immune to Geass...

Conclusion: Nunally has a Geass. Perhaps a passive one similar to Mao.

Perhaps... though I think it's more likely that Nunnally was merely a potential Geass user like Suzaku has been confirmed to be. (Suzaku had the same reaction to C.C. in episode 22 as Lelouch did in episode 1.) Nunnally may have had her Geass awakened by V.V. in the year since then, of course.

At any rate, we will probably get a shock when Nunnally finally opens her eyes.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

I've always thoguht it'd be just about the greatest mindfuck that could be done to us (and to Lelouch). The sweet Euphie commiting a mass murder though Geass would be NOTHING in comparison to us finding out that Nunnally has a really evil/dark side, knows more than she ouht to know and/or have even carefully manipulated events to become as they are now... :argh

[Rukia]

Here's my theory about Nunally:

Go back to the end of episode 24. Nunally is alone in "that room" at the school, V.V. enters. Nunally says: "Hmm? C.C.-san?". V.V. tells her that she is mistaken. Nunally seems confused by this (She says "But..."). Is there something about C.C. (and V.V.) that Nunally can detect? Or rather are they unique in that she can't detect something from them? We know they are immune to Geass...

Conclusion: Nunally has a Geass. Perhaps a passive one similar to Mao.I liked some of the old rumors I heard. That Nunnally does in fact have a geass. That her geass grants her visions and gives her a glimpse into the future. I think that would make her a little less boring if it were true.

Wesley is right though. If Nunnally doesn't have a hidden side...if she is simply the good girl that she appears to be...then she is completely worthless.

Prince Leon, have you been reading some of these threads in here today. Looks like a lot of other people agree with me that she is faking her disabilities. X3 X3 X3

[Rokudaime]

It going to mega-bummer if Nunnaly told Lulu that she is the one who always give the "strategy-counter against OBK plan" to Britannia's forces.

[Rukia]

It going to mega-bummer if Nunnaly told Lulu that she is the one who always give the "strategy-counter against OBK plan" to Britannia's forces.If I were Lelouch and I discovered that. I would do everything in my power to destroy her. All Black Knight missions would be focused on killing the new Governor General. I would also regret not ordering Sayoko to push her down a flight of stairs when I had the chance. :sun

[Mr. Stud Muffin]

^^^ I would go totally ape-shit on her...

I'd be beyond pissed...I mean come on...I wanted to annihilate partly for her sake (to create a new/different world).

Perhaps... though I think it's more likely that Nunnally was merely a potential Geass user like Suzaku has been confirmed to be. (Suzaku had the same reaction to C.C. in episode 22 as Lelouch did in episode 1.) Nunnally may have had her Geass awakened by V.V. in the year since then, of course.

At any rate, we will probably get a shock when Nunnally finally opens her eyes.

^^^ I don't quite understand the concept of "awakening" ur geass. I am guessing what u mean to say is that Nunnally formed some kind of contract with either V.V. or C.C. I always thought that the mutual contract was the prerequisite to possessing a geass.

For some reason, the concept of "awakening" your geass just sounds like awakening a sharingan in the heat of battle or during a crisis.

[Prince Leon]

Prince Leon, have you been reading some of these threads in here today. Looks like a lot of other people agree with me that she is faking her disabilities. X3 X3 X3

Have you ever thought that her disabilities were real and somewhere along the way they might have healed? That would be the easiest way for her to "fake" her disabilities, that is being alright after a few years.

Even then, they'll have to explain why she was willing to sit in a wheelchair willingly for all of those years. So I'll refrain from following sheep mentality.

[p0ltergeist]

now that is a ballsy conclusion if I ever read one...

for 2 reasons...
1. this would mean that C.C. made a contract with Nunally without telling Lelouch...needless to say, Lelouch would probably try to strangle C.C. but to no avail cause she is an "immortal witch"

AND

2. all geass users need working physical eyes. Nunally's case is different. it is said that Nunally's blindness is caused by the emotional trauma of watching her mother die in front of her eyes. Nunally is, perhaps, not physically blind but chooses to be blind (this may draw some criticism).

But yes, it is has been strongly hinted that Nunally is not simply what we know her to be.

And also because of the following:

Who's to say a contract is required? I'd still say the conditions for being granted a Geass are still not certain. We know that's why Lelouch and Mao received theirs, but Charles is a mystery, and Rollo got his so he could become an assassin. If my theory is correct, then Nunally would have received it in a similar way/reason to Rollo. I also suspect that for Rollo the Geass was harvested somehow, and that they are collecting these "witches" for this purpose... but I don't have overly compelling reasons for believing that. Just a hunch.

And the reason for her blindness is still a bit suspect. "Trauma", they say? I don't know about that. Her blindness could be related to her receiving a Geass, if the theory is true at all.

As for point 2, I don't recall hearing anything about that. But if that's true, then perhaps her eyes do work after all. Although it would be pretty damn hard to hide that for all those years.

[Goodfellow]

Who's to say a contract is required? I'd still say the conditions for being granted a Geass are still not certain. We know that's why Lelouch and Mao received theirs, but Charles is a mystery, and Rollo got his so he could become an assassin. If my theory is correct, then Nunally would have received it in a similar way/reason to Rollo. I also suspect that for Rollo the Geass was harvested somehow, and that they are collecting these "witches" for this purpose... but I don't have overly compelling reasons for believing that. Just a hunch.

And the reason for her blindness is still a bit suspect. "Trauma", they say? I don't know about that. Her blindness could be related to her receiving a Geass, if the theory is true at all.

As for point 2, I don't recall hearing anything about that. But if that's true, then perhaps her eyes do work after all. Although it would be pretty damn hard to hide that for all those years.

I dunno about that. That girl is pretty stubborn with keeping her eyes closed.

I always assumed that was the reason to her blindness by the way. She was to traumatized to open her eyes:lmao!

Of course, that begs the question why someone just didn't pry her eyes open with force:lmao

[Sasuke X]

It's possible that Nunnally is somehow part of the Emperor's plot, just like it's possible that Marianne herself was. I'm holding onto the theory that Marianne's death and Nunnally being made (or made out to be) disabled were done to make Lelouch hate the Emperor enough to take him on and, ultimately, replace him after showing himself to be superior to him.

With it being revealed that the Emperor's geass allows him to rewrite memories, it's possible that Marianne isn't his mother and Nunnally isn't his sister - It could all be a setup done to open the path for Lelouch to take on his father. We really don't know what is true and what isn't until what happened with Marianne is revealed.

One theory I find interesting is that Nunnally herself geassed Lelouch at some point, commanding him to act as a loving brother and put her above everything else. It's true that Lelouch acts irrationally whenever Nunnally is involved and would go to any lengths for her - Whether that's natural brotherly love or something more sinister is a mystery.

What we do know is that, in a show equivalent to Naruto when it comes to eye techniques, we STILL haven't seen Nunnally's eyes, some 29 episodes into Code Geass. Even blind people must surely open their eyes at some point? It's not as if her eyelids are stapled down.

[wild09]

Evil Nunnally? lol she ain't got no wings how can she be evil!? She's as neutral as they get. And while I'm at it Zino Weinberg is neutral too, he's just in a transitional phase right now, I totally see him quitting the Knights of Round and becoming neutral. How do I know? He ain't got no wings baby! :argh

[p0ltergeist]

Have you ever thought that her disabilities were real and somewhere along the way they might have healed? That would be the easiest way for her to "fake" her disabilities, that is being alright after a few years.

Even then, they'll have to explain why she was willing to sit in a wheelchair willingly for all of those years. So I'll refrain from following sheep mentality.

She was shot several times in the legs as a child (a weak one, at that). It would be total BS if she weren't disabled :laugh

[Mr. Stud Muffin]

Who's to say a contract is required? I'd still say the conditions for being granted a Geass are still not certain. We know that's why Lelouch and Mao received theirs, but Charles is a mystery, and Rollo got his so he could become an assassin. If my theory is correct, then Nunally would have received it in a similar way/reason to Rollo. I also suspect that for Rollo the Geass was harvested somehow, and that they are collecting these "witches" for this purpose... but I don't have overly compelling reasons for believing that. Just a hunch.

And the reason for her blindness is still a bit suspect. "Trauma", they say? I don't know about that. Her blindness could be related to her receiving a Geass, if the theory is true at all.

As for point 2, I don't recall hearing anything about that. But if that's true, then perhaps her eyes do work after all. Although it would be pretty damn hard to hide that for all those years.

^^^ Don't get me wrong...I was playing devil's advocate...I find that that is when people do some of their best thinking...when they are compelled to see the opposing viewpoint.

I totally expect Nunnally to have some sort of Geass.

And moreover, who's to say Lelouch's life has been an entire setup/conspiracy...but I have to admit that would plunge this show into an existential abyss...

[Prince Leon]

She was shot several times in the legs as a child (a weak one, at that). It would be total BS if she weren't disabled :laugh

EXACTLY. Being shot up in the legs and not coming out disabled at least for a few years? That'd be a serious case of bullshit unless it's explained away with some clever device (another Geass perhaps? :awesome).

[Rukia]

Man, Leon. You might as well get rid of Lakshata and Cornelia in your set. I had no idea you were such a Nunnally lover. You are always the first person to come to her defense. :pek

Mao got shot all over his body and he was up walking around an episode later. Britannia has top notch medicine apparently. Why can't you guys accept the fact that Nunnally is a fraud. She liked the attention her brother gave her...the reason he gave her so much is because she was frail and weak. Lelouch is going to be tormented/humiliated by Nunnally fairly soon. Nunnally will reveal that she used/manipulated him all along, but that she doesn't need him anymore since she has Suzaku now. Let's see how you guys explain that one. :zaru

[Prince Leon]

Man, Leon. You might as well get rid of Lakshata and Cornelia in your set. I had no idea you were such a Nunnally lover. You are always the first person to come to her defense. :pek

I don't have a reason to hate/dislike her, so why wouldn't I come when others are trying to shit over her character?

Mao got shot all over his body and he was up walking around an episode later. Britannia has top notch medicine apparently. Why can't you guys accept the fact that Nunnally is a fraud. She liked the attention her brother gave her...the reason he gave her so much is because she was frail and weak. Lelouch is going to be tormented/humiliated by Nunnally fairly soon. Nunnally will reveal that she used/manipulated him all along, but that she doesn't need him anymore since she has Suzaku now. Let's see how you guys explain that one. :zaru

Until I see actual proof, meaning when she gets up from her chair and walks around examining things with her eyes, then I won't believe any fraud/evil Nunnally bullshit. Sure, there has been some questionable acts (her legs being tied) in the first season but that's all they are: "questionable". There have been other questionable things mentioned outside the series/anime and in sound episodes, but it's the same as I just said. Until whatever happens takes place, I'll be keeping Lelouch of the Rebellion and Nightmare of Nunnally separate.

Though I find it amazing that you don't seem to have considered her memories getting rewritten by Charles. Or did you not think of that from your auto-hate-o-meter? :awesome

[Marsala]

Even if Nunnally isn't faking her injuries, she's scary perceptive. She could tell that Arthur the cat had an injured leg just by the uneven sound of his footsteps(!). She probably knew that Lelouch was Zero from the beginning; she certainly learned about his Geass from overhearing his conversation with Mao. In episode 23, she called Lelouch to ask to see Euphemia again, saying that the radio broadcast of the SAZ announcement was "cut off". Since it wasn't cut off until after Euphemia had told the soldiers to massacre the Japanese, she must have heard at least that much... which means that she probably deduced what had happened and called Lelouch just to torment him with guilt.

She's evil, I tells you! Eeeeeeeevil!!!

[Rukia]

Even if Nunnally isn't faking her injuries, she's scary perceptive. She could tell that Arthur the cat had an injured leg just by the uneven sound of his footsteps(!). She probably knew that Lelouch was Zero from the beginning; she certainly learned about his Geass from overhearing his conversation with Mao. In episode 23, she called Lelouch to ask to see Euphemia again, saying that the radio broadcast of the SAZ announcement was "cut off". Since it wasn't cut off until after Euphemia had told the soldiers to massacre the Japanese, she must have heard at least that much... which means that she probably deduced what had happened and called Lelouch just to torment him with guilt.

She's evil, I tells you! Eeeeeeeevil!!!Nunnally is the big bad! She is the main villain of this series.

I agree with your entire post. I just want to add some analyze regarding the spoiler rumors as well.Nunnally is supposedly going to call Lelouch at the end of the episode. She is going to do so via Suzaku's phone. Suzaku will spend the entire episode trying to make Lelouch slip up and reveal that his memories are restored. Nunnally has decided to assist Suzaku in this endeavor even though she knows that Suzaku will most likely pummel and capture Lelouch if let's it slip that he's Zero. Nunnally wants him to fail.I remember when she said Suzaku was the only person they could depend on during the Ashford hostage situation at the end of season one. Nunnally has abandoned Lelouch...to be honest...she was probably only using him from the beginning. Sayoko has probably seen glimpses of her bitchiness...that's why she left her servant position.

[Marsala]

Nunnally is the big bad! She is the main villain of this series.

I agree with your entire post. I just want to add some analyze regarding the spoiler rumors as well.Nunnally is supposedly going to call Lelouch at the end of the episode. She is going to do so via Suzaku's phone. Suzaku will spend the entire episode trying to make Lelouch slip up and reveal that his memories are restored. Nunnally has decided to assist Suzaku in this endeavor even though she knows that Suzaku will most likely pummel and capture Lelouch if let's it slip that he's Zero. Nunnally wants him to fail.I remember when she said Suzaku was the only person they could depend on during the Ashford hostage situation at the end of season one. Nunnally has abandoned Lelouch...to be honest...she was probably only using him from the beginning. Sayoko has probably seen glimpses of her bitchiness...that's why she left her servant position.
Okay, let's be fair to Nunnally. She is probably extremely devoted to her brother. I doubt that she intends him any real harm, at least not yet. She just wants to be able to live with him in a world where they can be happy. The problem is that she may be a freaking psycho who wouldn't hesitate to repeat Euphemia's massacre, use Nina's nuke, or wipe out the whole world with the Sword of Akasha if it meant that she could be with (and control) Lelouch.

[Pringer Lagann]

Behold the power of the Evil Nunnaly and her Geass Knightmare

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/961/evilnunallycd1.jpg

You never know, it might really happen.

A fellow reader of the Knightmare of Nunnally? :LOS

[Pepmoix]

Okay, let's be fair to Nunnally. She is probably extremely devoted to her brother. I doubt that she intends him any real harm, at least not yet. She just wants to be able to live with him in a world where they can be happy. The problem is that she may be a freaking psycho who wouldn't hesitate to repeat Euphemia's massacre, use Nina's nuke, or wipe out the whole world with the Sword of Akasha if it meant that she could be with (and control) Lelouch.

OR... She could've been geassed by the emperor to not remember Lelouch and what happened to her mother, thinking that she always has been part of the 'crown'. As far as I know, thecnically speaking, she's not really blind. She just chose not to open her eyes anymore, so she could still be geassed.

[BakaOnna]

I can see the theory of Nunnally actually helping the Emperor as a means of achieving a safe and peaceful place where she and Lulu can live happening. Oh the irony of it! Maybe that's why I like that theory. :nod

Also in the Knightmare of Nunnally manga, she's quite possessive when it comes to Lulu. "Don't take away my brother from me!" And while manga may not be canonical to the anime, I won't be surprised if her anime personality is similar to her manga counterpart.

[Rukia]

Nunnally isn't possessive of Lelouch at all. She knows he has been at Ashford Academy this whole time. And she didn't give a fuck. She was content to sit in her luxury wheelchair with Suzaku as her manservant. Suzaku probably dresses her, paints her toenails, does any little fucking chore she asks of him. (Needless to say...Suzaku will also be shocked when she opens her eyes, steps out of the wheelchair and attacks him with her vicious speed.) Nunnally is so fucking manipulative.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

(Needless to say...Suzaku will also be shocked when she opens her eyes, steps out of the wheelchair and attacks him with her vicious speed.) Nunnally is so fucking manipulative.

I'd sort of like to see this happening. Suzaku's shock and face'd be priceless :nod

[dspr8_rugged]

*points up*

Nunnally will put Suzaku's infamous spinning kicks to shame. :lmao

I can see the theory of Nunnally actually helping the Emperor as a means of achieving a safe and peaceful place where she and Lulu can live happening. Oh the irony of it! Maybe that's why I like that theory. :nod
Oh, that would be a nice twist. Lelouch is going to be devastated if that happens.

[Nakor]

I wouldn't be surprised if she did have a Geass.

But she will still be one of the good guys.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

But she will still be one of the good guys.

Out of curiousity, who are the good guys exactly? :wha

[Rokudaime]

Nunnally isn't possessive of Lelouch at all. She knows he has been at Ashford Academy this whole time. And she didn't give a fuck. She was content to sit in her luxury wheelchair with Suzaku as her manservant. Suzaku probably dresses her, paints her toenails, does any little fucking chore she asks of him. (Needless to say...Suzaku will also be shocked when she opens her eyes, steps out of the wheelchair and attacks him with her vicious speed.) Nunnally is so fucking manipulative.

That why she fitted to be Lulu's sister..They just like sibling as Mao said...Manipulative!

[Nakor]

Out of curiousity, who are the good guys exactly? :wha

The ones fighting for freedom.

[Severnaruto]

The ones fighting for freedom.

Except, those who fight for 'freedom' resort to questionable methods, and one of the themes in CG has always been moral ambiguity. Episode 4 pretty much put all notions of Lelouch being 'good' when he said that he'll become evil, in order defeat a greater evil.

The only person who could've been considered truly good is dead.

[Nakor]

Except, those who fight for 'freedom' resort to questionable methods, and one of the themes in CG has always been moral ambiguity. Episode 4 pretty much put all notions of Lelouch being 'good' when he said that he'll become evil, in order defeat a greater evil.

The only person who could've been considered truly good is dead.

While lelouch did say that, none of the other elevens said that...we have to wait and see just how far they are going to go for freedom. So far, I'd say they are still the good guys.