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Shiraishi
04-27-2008, 08:40 PM
What would you do with Rollo? Would you use him as a pawn and go totally crazy asshole on him, or would you pity him and forgive that he took over Nunally's spot?

As things go now, he's going to totally make Rollo his pet and make him kill everyone.

Then throw him into a lake somewhere.

Nae'blis
04-27-2008, 08:48 PM
Probably exactly what he intends to do. Use him, but plan an appropriate way to kill him from the beginning. He is too unstable and dangerous to be left alive.

Lord Darkwolf
04-27-2008, 08:48 PM
Use now ... forgive later if he proved his worth .

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-27-2008, 09:06 PM
Hmm, forgive him if he proved his worth, I think (and I hope this'll be the course that things take). Still, the first option might be the wisest in the end - because as his interactions with the secret intelligence/Brittania has proven so far, he's dangerous even to his own "allies", being almost far too eager to kill...

Wesley
04-27-2008, 09:21 PM
Kill him. How dare he indirectly compare himself to and replace my Nun-nun? His ass is grass. :pek

Fleecy
04-27-2008, 09:44 PM
Well... I'm nothing like Lelouch, so I wouldn't use him at all. I'd just forgive him.

Ayer
04-27-2008, 09:55 PM
:WOW:WOW:WOW:WOW:WOW
I was expecting more votes for fucking him over... (I voted for forgiving him btw.)

Wesley
04-27-2008, 10:09 PM
:WOW:WOW:WOW:WOW:WOW
I was expecting more votes for fucking him over... (I voted for forgiving him btw.)

Give it time. Rollo's the new Suzuka, it's just that no one knows it yet. :zaru

Rukia
04-27-2008, 10:35 PM
I'd forgive him. He's a better sibling than Nunnally. Nunnally is a fucking faker. She pretends to be blind and she pretends to be crippled. We found out during the first season that this was all an act.

And now spoilers indicate...That Nunnally will side with Suzaku against her brother. What a fucking bitch! After everything Lelouch has done for her the last 8 years...this is how she repays him? Good riddance. I hope Lelouch says something cruel to her before he pulls the trigger. :mad

Ayer
04-27-2008, 10:39 PM
I'd forgive him. He's a better sibling than Nunnally. Nunnally is a fucking faker. She pretends to be blind and she pretends to be crippled. We found out during the first season that this was all an act.

And now spoilers indicate...That Nunnally will side with Suzaku against her brother. What a fucking bitch! After everything Lelouch has done for her the last 8 years...this is how she repays him? Good riddance. I hope Lelouch says something cruel to her before he pulls the trigger. :mad

WHOAWHOAWHOAWHOAWHAT (about the spoiler)?
Who says?

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-27-2008, 10:49 PM
WHOAWHOAWHOAWHOAWHAT (about the spoiler)?
Who says?

Check out the "Summary of Turn 6-8" thread...

Fleecy
04-27-2008, 10:51 PM
I'd forgive him. He's a better sibling than Nunnally. Nunnally is a fucking faker. She pretends to be blind and she pretends to be crippled. We found out during the first season that this was all an act.

And now spoilers indicate...That Nunnally will side with Suzaku against her brother. What a fucking bitch! After everything Lelouch has done for her the last 8 years...this is how she repays him? Good riddance. I hope Lelouch says something cruel to her before he pulls the trigger. :mad

I never liked her from the beginning while I liked Rolo from the beginning. What irony. :laugh

Saruto
04-27-2008, 11:08 PM
I'd forgive him. He's a better sibling than Nunnally. Nunnally is a fucking faker. She pretends to be blind and she pretends to be crippled. We found out during the first season that this was all an act.

And now spoilers indicate...That Nunnally will side with Suzaku against her brother. What a fucking bitch! After everything Lelouch has done for her the last 8 years...this is how she repays him? Good riddance. I hope Lelouch says something cruel to her before he pulls the trigger. :mad

LOL WUT


I thought the bullets fucked up her legs and the psychological trauma made her blind....how is she faking it and when did we find this out!?!?

Mr. Stud Muffin
04-27-2008, 11:15 PM
Undecided.

Prince Leon
04-27-2008, 11:20 PM
I'd forgive him. He's a better sibling than Nunnally. Nunnally is a fucking faker. She pretends to be blind and she pretends to be crippled. We found out during the first season that this was all an act.

And now spoilers indicate...That Nunnally will side with Suzaku against her brother. What a fucking bitch! After everything Lelouch has done for her the last 8 years...this is how she repays him? Good riddance. I hope Lelouch says something cruel to her before he pulls the trigger. :mad

What bullshit are you spouting? Nunnally is genuinely crippled from being shot in the legs. Or did you 'just happen' forget that important background tidbit? And her blindness, although different from the norm, is legit as it refers to the Abnormality cause of blindness.

Seriously you need to stop this "pretending" nonsense when the factual information states otherwise.

Rukia
04-27-2008, 11:24 PM
LOL WUT


I thought the bullets fucked up her legs and the psychological trauma made her blind....how is she faking it and when did we find this out!?!?Nobles talked about it. "Physically, there is nothing wrong with her." This conversation took place when Lelouch renounced his claim to the throne.

Rob_Zero
04-27-2008, 11:31 PM
What bullshit are you spouting? Nunnally is genuinely crippled from being shot in the legs. Or did you 'just happen' forget that important background tidbit? And her blindness, although different from the norm, is legit as it refers to the Abnormality cause of blindness.

Her crippled legs are hinted at being faked (at least in recent times) in the sound episodes. Why do you think Mao tied her legs up? Her blindness being faked... that's been hinted by both the director Taniguchi and her seiyu Nazuka Kaori. There's apparently something darker about her, Nazuka has said some very creepy things about Nunnally in a few interviews.

Prince Leon
04-27-2008, 11:45 PM
Her crippled legs are hinted at being faked (at least in recent times) in the sound episodes. Why do you think Mao tied her legs up? Her blindness being faked... that's been hinted by both the director Taniguchi and her seiyu Nazuka Kaori. There's apparently something darker about her, Nazuka has said some very creepy things about Nunnally in a few interviews.

Well her blindness has always been up for debate. Mental blindness can only last for so long. Of course her eyes could have returned to normal and she continued to fake it.

As for her legs, I remember when Mao tied them up. However, until I see her stand up and walk around like nothing ever happened, she's still a handicapped girl/cripple. The last thing I'll believe is info from stuck-up nobles. As for the sound episodes, well there's only so much I can understand since I don't know the language 100%. Still, it'd really take a lot of convincing to pass off the reason she willingly remained cripple for all those years.

Six
04-27-2008, 11:50 PM
Nunnally-sama says to bury rolo alive. :oh

Corran
04-27-2008, 11:53 PM
Can people talk about spoilers in spoiler tags? Some of us are trying to avoid spoilers like me :ano

I dont know what to vote for here, on one hand I do want Rolo to change and let Lelouch grow closer to him and on the other hand I understand how Lelouch feels about him taking Nunnallys place. I'd be furious about it to.
Gah I'll wait a couple eps to see how I feel.

Severnaruto
04-28-2008, 02:29 AM
I doubt Nunnally is actually, genuinely evil, just... realistic about her chances. Pragmatic, maybe. Siding with Suzaku, and the entirety of Britannia, being restored to royalty and given the governorship of Japan, or--she can go hide in China with her brother. I think it's clear which is the better choice.

Before this episode, I'd have said to fuck him, toss him in the lake. But... Rolo genuinely craves love, and that scene of him getting mind-fucked inside his Knightmare was just sad. I chose the 'forgive' option.

Auron
04-28-2008, 02:39 AM
I'd use him like Lelouch plans to do...the order of black knights already has to go up against crazy odds with hax pilots like Suzaku who can take out 500 knightmares by themselves. They need someone like Rollo with a hax geass to even the odds. Use him and abuse him baby

Graham Aker
04-28-2008, 03:59 AM
I wouldn't forgive him since he doesn't need it anyway. This was all the Emperor' plan, Rollo was merely a part of it, he doesn't even know a lot of what's really going on. Sadly, THE Lelouch does not posses such foresight.

Anyway, I'll treat him the same way I treat Ougi and the others. It would be pretty stupid to abuse your subordinates as it might lead to you getting stabbed in the back.
Rollo won't be carrying any assassination missions for me, except one... to get rid of Seven Eleven.

Mr. Stud Muffin
04-28-2008, 06:53 AM
never mind...I am now decided...

I would try to pull a Madara on my brother or a Itachi on Sasuke

for u Naruto fans (who read the manga and are caught up, u know what I am talkin' about).

If I were Lelouch I would try to pluck out Rollo's right eye (which is the eye that has the geass) and make it MY right eye...

how convenient...Lelouch's absolute obedience geass would be in HIS left eye and Rollo's mind freeze geass would be in Lelouch's right eye. He would be unstoppable...almost.

G@R-chan
04-28-2008, 08:27 AM
How much can you trust someone who was going to kill you and lied to you all this time?

You can't just forget he's a cold murderer ready to kill/betray when he can, at least for now.
I'd use him because you can't ignore the fact that he could be the one to pull the trigger against you.

Rokudaime
04-28-2008, 09:11 AM
I will make him to do the most evil things in the world...You know, making the sandwich in the kitchen for me everydays...and yes, I will change his name from "Rollo" to "Betty" as well.

Goodfellow
04-28-2008, 10:08 AM
Well I pity him. And Lelouch detests him (out of a valid reason no less).
So whatever happens, DRAMA will unfold:nod

But if I really had to choose...Geass him to kill Suzaku, Charles and everyone else and their dog, durr:awesome.

Genesis
04-28-2008, 11:56 AM
Use him to kill Suzaku. It'd work.

Sasuke X
04-28-2008, 12:51 PM
It's logical for Lelouch to act like a loving brother in order to use Rollo. He's too useful not to use - It's not everyday you get an easily manipulatable geass user...who also happens to be part of the Zero investigation team.

I understand why Lelouch hates him: In Lelouch's mind, Rollo is to blame for him being separated from his sister for a year and accepted the feelings he meant to give his sister. He wants revenge for that year he lost and will take great pleasure in destroying Rollo when the time is right.

There's a chance Lelouch will gain some affectionate feelings for Rollo once he calms down, but it's unlikely when Lelouch is so caught up in his love for Nunnally and anger at being separated from the one person he truly loves.

Rukia
04-28-2008, 01:50 PM
Damn, I hate Nunnally even more after reading your post Sasuke.

Euphemia was your sister too Lelouch! You dumb shit. Euphemia had all of Nunnally's good qualities, and then several of her own qualities that made her better than Nunnally. Hearing about Lelouch's so-called love for Nunnally is disgusting. He had plenty of other family members that have/had their good points. Why were they abandoned/betrayed? Why is she put on a pedestal? Because she pretends to be helpless? What a manipulative little girl.

Wesley
04-28-2008, 02:10 PM
Damn, I hate Nunnally even more after reading your post Sasuke.

Euphemia was your sister too Lelouch! You dumb shit. Euphemia had all of Nunnally's good qualities, and then several of her own qualities that made her better than Nunnally. Hearing about Lelouch's so-called love for Nunnally is disgusting. He had plenty of other family members that have/had their good points. Why were they abandoned/betrayed? Why is she put on a pedestal? Because she pretends to be helpless? What a manipulative little girl.

Lulu could have been pretending to actually care about Nun-nun all those years. Just so others would believe that she could be used against him. :zaru

Sasuke X
04-28-2008, 02:18 PM
Damn, I hate Nunnally even more after reading your post Sasuke.

Euphemia was your sister too Lelouch! You dumb shit. Euphemia had all of Nunnally's good qualities, and then several of her own qualities that made her better than Nunnally. Hearing about Lelouch's so-called love for Nunnally is disgusting. He had plenty of other family members that have/had their good points. Why were they abandoned/betrayed? Why is she put on a pedestal? Because she pretends to be helpless? What a manipulative little girl.

Euphy was only a half sister, while Nunnally is his proper sister. Due to how many half brothers and sisters Lelouch has, he probably doesn't even view them as proper brothers and sisters. There's also the small part about those half brothers and sisters only being related to him because they're Charlie's children, and I imagine that makes him naturally hate them.

I think Lelouch viewed Euphy in a different way: He said she was the first woman he ever loved when he shot her... That doesn't sound like something a brother says to a sister, not outside of incest stories anyway.

Wesley
04-28-2008, 02:54 PM
Euphy was only a half sister, while Nunnally is his proper sister. Due to how many half brothers and sisters Lelouch has, he probably doesn't even view them as proper brothers and sisters. There's also the small part about those half brothers and sisters only being related to him because they're Charlie's children, and I imagine that makes him naturally hate them.

Funny. They look nothing alike. At least they're as different as you'd expect Clamp characters to look from one another.

I don't think Lulu gives a shit about family. He simply makes some silly little exception for Nun-nun, because even a heartless bastard has to live with himself and it's probably comforting for him to act irrational about this one thing.

I think Lelouch viewed Euphy in a different way: He said she was the first woman he ever loved when he shot her... That doesn't sound like something a brother says to a sister, not outside of incest stories anyway.

He was being dramatic. He'd planned all along to kill her, and did it in a way that benefited him best.

Prince Leon
04-28-2008, 03:43 PM
He was being dramatic. He'd planned all along to kill her, and did it in a way that benefited him best.

And you know this how? :awesome

Seriously, stop talking about things you know nothing about outside of second-hand information.

Wesley
04-28-2008, 03:53 PM
And you know this how? :awesome

Seriously, stop talking about things you know nothing about outside of second-hand information.

If I'd actually watched it myself, I'd be saying the same thing. Lulu likes to screw with himself because no one is better than him. It's emotional masturbation. The future doesn't matter to him. He just wants that next buzz.

xpto
04-28-2008, 04:35 PM
I spare him. He's just some fucked up kid. Besides, if he ever gets too fucked up, i can cut his eye off and have two Geasses. :LOS

Nae'blis
04-28-2008, 05:08 PM
Use him to kill Suzaku. It'd work.

Yes, this. At the end of the previous episode it showed Suzaku returning to Ashford. If I were Lelouch, I wouldn't even give him time to say hello. Just kill him as soon as he shows his hypocrite mouth.

Rukia
04-28-2008, 06:51 PM
I wouldn't even be thinking about Rolo if I were Lelouch. I would still be working out a plan to geass Anya and make her my girlfriend. :knk

~Shin~
04-28-2008, 07:05 PM
I don't have sympathy for a faggot who kills people indiscriminately. Nor do I have sympathy for traitors.

I don't know if I agree with what Lelouch is doing but I'll most likely do some messed up shit too.

If I'd actually watched it myself, I'd be saying the same thing. Lulu likes to screw with himself because no one is better than him. It's emotional masturbation. The future doesn't matter to him. He just wants that next buzz.

Sounds an awful lot like you. :awesome

Mr. Stud Muffin
04-29-2008, 01:29 AM
I think Lelouch viewed Euphy in a different way: He said she was the first woman he ever loved when he shot her... That doesn't sound like something a brother says to a sister, not outside of incest stories anyway.

^^^ there is one thing i still don't know...

did Euphie ever say that she loved Lelouch (not as a brother but as a man) or did she say that to Suzaku?

Jetstorm
04-29-2008, 04:22 AM
Use the mental kid since he likes getting the chance to kill then throw him away like the trash he is. :pek

Wesley
04-29-2008, 01:03 PM
Sounds an awful lot like you. :awesome

You think I'm gay for hating lesbians, so what do you know? :zaru

Souten Kishun
04-29-2008, 06:02 PM
I can't believe you bastards "trash him" winning.

Lelouch is just being a further copy of Light if he only uses Rolo for his eyes (geass) ...like Light used Misa for her eyes.

Note: I only watch the DN dub so I don't know how the Light/Misa stuff plays out. (Don't tell me)

Fleecy
04-29-2008, 06:34 PM
I can't believe you bastards "trash him" winning.

Lelouch is just being a further copy of Light if he only uses Rolo for his eyes (geass) ...like Light used Misa for her eyes.

Note: I only watch the DN dub so I don't know how the Light/Misa stuff plays out. (Don't tell me)

CG fandom is so narrow-minded when it comes to characters, I find. Naturally, most loved Lelouch from the beginning and hated Rolo, ergo Lelouch must > Rolo no matter how morally corrupt his methods are.

Lelouch is rolling down the path of Light (how ironic :zaru) quickly at this point.

~Shin~
04-29-2008, 06:40 PM
You think I'm gay for hating lesbians, so what do you know? :zaru

When did I say you were gay?

YOU said that you would pick this show back up if it turned into yaoi. Supposedly YOU find it "funny".

I never said you were gay.

Prince Leon
04-29-2008, 06:50 PM
I can't believe you bastards "trash him" winning.

Lelouch is just being a further copy of Light if he only uses Rolo for his eyes (geass) ...like Light used Misa for her eyes.

Note: I only watch the DN dub so I don't know how the Light/Misa stuff plays out. (Don't tell me)

So anyone who uses someone else for an ability they have = Light? :laugh

Fleecy
04-29-2008, 06:53 PM
So anyone who uses someone else for an ability they have = Light? :laugh

Any protagonist with an extraordinary power who is unbelievably charismatic, arrogant, and smart who thinks he's doing the world a favor while using others liberally for his purpose = Light.

Detonator_Fan
04-29-2008, 06:53 PM
Forgive him.
Unless he starts to date Anya.

Sasuke X
04-29-2008, 06:56 PM
I can't believe you bastards "trash him" winning.

Lelouch is just being a further copy of Light if he only uses Rolo for his eyes (geass) ...like Light used Misa for her eyes.

Note: I only watch the DN dub so I don't know how the Light/Misa stuff plays out. (Don't tell me)

Lelouch was always going to develop into Light - It's hardly surprising that he's acting more and more like Light after doing and seeing so many evil deeds. If you thought of Lelouch as a version of Light with some love in his heart you wouldn't be too far off the mark.

Since I've always thought that way, it doesn't bother me one bit that Lelouch is going to use Rollo as much as possible and then lead him to his death when his usefulness fades. To be honest, Rollo is an uninteresting character anyway, so I don't see me getting teary eyed over Lelouch sending Rollo to his death in the future.

P.S: Light makes Misa shoot herself.

Fleecy
04-29-2008, 06:59 PM
Lelouch was always going to develop into Light - It's hardly surprising that he's acting more and more like Light after doing and seeing so many evil deeds. If you thought of Lelouch as a version of Light with some love in his heart and you wouldn't be too far off the mark.

Since I've always thought that way, it doesn't bother me one bit that Lelouch is going to use Rollo as much as possible and then lead him to his death when his usefulness fades. To be honest, Rollo is an uninteresting character anyway, so I don't see me getting teary eyed over Lelouch sending Rollo to his death in the future.

P.S: Light makes Misa shoot herself.

Don't be a jerk. Don't listen to that last part, Koten; it's not true. :zaru

I have always seen Lelouch as the Light-prototype with a heart. Since I neither liked Light nor his deeds, I dislike Lelouch as well and think what he's doing (not overall, but sub actions still count) is wrong and disgusting.

Sasuke X
04-29-2008, 07:09 PM
Sorry, I'll tell the truth now: Light makes Misa walk the plank from beyond the grave out of loneliness. They then both live together in MU happily ever after.


Lelouch has actual reasoning behind his actions, making him a much more likeable character than Light. Nonetheless, he's killed many, mainly for revenge, and used people like chess pieces in order to reach his goal... No character of his type can have a happy ending since, regardless of their initial intentions, by fighting evil with an even greater evil they'll only succeed in becoming a monster much worse than the one they wished to destroy to start with.

As pathetic as it will be, Suzaku will probably end up killing Lelouch and living on. The writers obviously think of Suzaku as a good guy, regardless of how much the fans hate him, and we all know that the good guys win in the end.

Prince Leon
04-29-2008, 07:23 PM
Any protagonist with an extraordinary power who is unbelievably charismatic, arrogant, and smart who thinks he's doing the world a favor while using others liberally for his purpose = Light.

Well then that disqualifies Lelouch because he's not doing anything for the world. :zaru

Fleecy
04-29-2008, 07:37 PM
Well then that disqualifies Lelouch because he's not doing anything for the world. :zaru

Key word I used: thinks. He thinks he is; "world" in the sense of the small area CG is focused on, which is Britannia/Japan/China.

Lelouch has actual reasoning behind his actions, making him a much more likeable character than Light. Nonetheless, he's killed many, mainly for revenge, and used people like chess pieces in order to reach his goal... No character of his type can have a happy ending since, regardless of their initial intentions, by fighting evil with an even greater evil they'll only succeed in becoming a monster much worse than the one they wished to destroy to start with.

As pathetic as it will be, Suzaku will probably end up killing Lelouch and living on. The writers obviously think of Suzaku as a good guy, regardless of how much the fans hate him, and we all know that the good guys win in the end.

I seriously doubt Suzaku will live on. I think that both he and Lelouch will die, though. Remember that Sunrise obeys its fans. They scream second season? It's here. They scream Orange-kun? He's in the opening. They scream Lelouch over Suzaku? Remains to be seen, but with the format of the story I see both of them dying because one living over the other leaves a bad aftertaste. This is just my theory, though.

mislead
04-29-2008, 07:43 PM
I really dislike the notion of "Lelouch turning into Light", and attribute it to an oversimplified view of their respective psyches. The proverbial "Lelouch is Light with a heart" is somewhat correct, in that Light was nearly a sociopath, while Lelouch continues to be a normal, albeit immoral, human. You can't simply turn a normal human into a sociopath, except under really extreme circumstances, and losing a member of one's family doesn't qualify. Lelouch has emotional ties to a plethora of characters, it's not that easy to nullify all of them. And even assuming it could happen, I'd argue that Lelouch would revert to a "avenger without remorse" persona, assuming he would have found enough motivation to continue, which isn't obvious either; and that still wouldn't be "the same as Light".

On-topic: There's no reason to do anything to Rollo, since he's basically a cornered animal at this point. It's not like he wasn't a simple tool of the real enemy from the get-go either. Lelouch is just being unreasonable and stupid here, which will probably come back to bite him at some point in the future.

Prince Leon
04-29-2008, 07:50 PM
Key word I used: thinks. He thinks he is; "world" in the sense of the small area CG is focused on, which is Britannia/Japan/China.

Then the keyword here isn't "thinks", it's "world". No one would think that you meant the world to mean Britannia/China/Japan in he context you used it.

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-29-2008, 08:39 PM
Since I voted "forgive him", I suppose I'll be the Devil's advocate here but ah well..

What exactly do you expect? I have a number of sisters. If I were one day brainwashed, then snapped out of that brainwashing and discovered that one of my sisters had been replaced by a cold-blooded assassin who would kill me as soon as I'd regained my memory, I'd feel rather pissed and insulted about it too (forgiveness/care for this false brother would hardly be the first thing on my mind then, I assure you) - and if I could "use" this assassin to get back at those who brainwashed me in the first place, I'd be happy to.

Besides, I wonder, do Rollo really deserve the sympathy - if that's what makes most people get pissed at Lelouch's "plans" for him? Is it all about people having a hard time to look past "Rolo’s cute puppy-dog face", to quote a poster at RC? Let's not forget that Rollo is a cold, emotionless assassin/killer who doesn't even care about his comrades and would even kill them for doing something so small as just touching one of his possessions. Yes, he has a Bad Past as you might say - and he could perhaps be said to be nothing but a poor boy used as a tool by the dastardly Brittanian goverment/emperor - though I do wonder if that should excuse him from being what he is. In a sense, he might just be getting what he deserves - coming to care about his victim and end up being used by that victim instead might be just about the worst sort of retribution an assassin could hope to face, after all...

That aside, I do truly hope that Lelouch will come to forgive him and/or care for him in the end. Besides... It's rather meaningless to debate about something Lelouch hasn't done yet though - he did say that he was going to do that - but will he really do it in the end? That remains to be seen and if he really does it, that'll be a (IMO huge) minus point for him that may well lead to his doom, but if he doesn't, so much better :noworry

DeathGuise_of_Oblivion
04-29-2008, 08:54 PM
Forgive him. He's been through so much and I know I would eventually consider him my brother if I were in Lelouch's situation. Thus being said, how could I not expect Lelouch to do it.

With all the DN/CG comparisons going on, I want to say something. Lelouch is better than Light. Maybe not as a genius, maybe not as a methodical psycho, but he's better. Better at being a HUMAN being. When Shirley was suffering so much mental pain and confusion, he sacrificed his feelings(whatever they were) for her. He was completely honest with her about how he had just lost a really good friend who could've become more. How much he realized he was going to miss her smile and her laugh. You could tell it hurt him having to do that.

Lelouch's abandoning the Black Knights to ensure the safety of his sister proves that he couldn't sacrifice her for the sake of his new world. Light was willing to sacrifice everything for the right to be the "god" of his new world. Regardless of whether it was his family or not. As long as he could be the ruler of it all. I noticed how Lelouch never said he would lead the new world, merely that he would create it. For me, that meant something.

I don't know. Maybe I have too much faith in Lelouch as a character. I know I've been wrong before in putting my faith in fictional character's. Or series director's (I'm looking at you Fukada). But I want to believe Lelouch is still human, and chooses in the worst of times to cling to that. Though he may believe that his inability to do so is what caused his initial downfall.

Sasuke X
04-30-2008, 10:48 PM
One small additional comment about the Code Geass/Death Note similarities...

Death Note fans will remember when L revealed himself to Light to see the reaction and the two acting like friends whilst trying to find a way to kill the other for a lengthy part of the series... Doesn't Suzaku going back to Ashford, introducing himself to Lelouch and (presumably) acting like friends whilst trying to kill each othe remind you of Death Note a little?

I'm betting that EP5 will end with Lelouch sitting in a chair and laughing in an insane manner, with him going on to declare that he'll act like Suzaku's friend and eventually kill him.

The whole memory loss issue being all a bit too similar to what happened in Death Note has already been covered, but we're seeing ANOTHER Death Note rip-off already. If the similarities between Lelouch and Light weren't enough to convince you that Code Geass (the anime) was inspired by Death Note to a certain extent, the constant oh-so-similar twists must make you think about the issue...

dspr8_rugged
04-30-2008, 11:28 PM
Lelouch will definitely use Rollo with delight. Why wouldn't he? Two Geasses are better than one for his Rebellion.

Imagine if Rollo starts believing that he is the "real" brother to Lelouch that when Nunnally comes into the picture, he'd kill her and Lelouch will be devastated. :kukuku

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-30-2008, 11:35 PM
Imagine if Rollo starts believing that he is the "real" brother to Lelouch that when Nunnally comes into the picture, he'd kill her and Lelouch will be devastated. :kukuku

Hmm, I haven't pondered the possibility that he'd kill her, through I've wondered what would become of him if Nunnally died during the course of the story...

Lelouch71
05-01-2008, 01:03 AM
One small additional comment about the Code Geass/Death Note similarities...

Death Note fans will remember when L revealed himself to Light to see a reaction and the two acting like friends whilst trying to find a way to defeat the other for a lengthy part of the series... Doesn't Suzaku going back to Ashford, introducing himself to Lelouch and (presumably) acting like friends whilst trying to kill each the remind you of Death Note a little?

I'm betting that EP5 will end with Lelouch sitting in a chair and laughing in an insane manner, with him going on to declare that he'll act like Suzaku's friend and eventually kill him.

The whole memory loss issue being all a bit too similar to what happened in Death Note has already been covered, but we're seeing ANOTHER Death Note rip-off already. If the similarities between Lelouch and Light weren't enough to convince you that Code Geass (the anime) was inspired by Death Note to a certain extent, the constant oh-so-similar twists must make you think about the issue...
Not that Suzaku don't deserve to be used like that. He sold Lelouch out for more power and took Nunnally away from him. Lelouch has every right to get revenge on him.

Sunuvmann
05-01-2008, 02:12 AM
Prolly Geass him into subservience first chance I got. Just to make sure.

DeathGuise_of_Oblivion
05-01-2008, 03:08 AM
The whole memory loss issue being all a bit too similar to what happened in Death Note has already been covered, but we're seeing ANOTHER Death Note rip-off already. If the similarities between Lelouch and Light weren't enough to convince you that Code Geass (the anime) was inspired by Death Note to a certain extent, the constant oh-so-similar twists must make you think about the issue...

Right. Because memory loss ISN'T an old anime cliche'......riiiiiiiight. More like, one of the oldest LITERARY cliche' ever AMIRITE! AMIRITE!:awesome

Rurushu
05-01-2008, 10:25 AM
Not that Suzaku don't deserve to be used like that. He sold Lelouch out for more power and took Nunnally away from him. Lelouch has every right to get revenge on him.

Yeah,but it all comes down to who gives Nunally a better life. When Suzaku turned Lelouch in to face his father,his memory was tooken away,and his sister replaced. Nunally was probably given the rank of governor,which means she could have been given a better life.

DarkLordOfKichiku
05-01-2008, 10:32 AM
Yeah,but it all comes down to who gives Nunally a better life. When Suzaku turned Lelouch in to face his father,his memory was tooken away,and his sister replaced. Nunally was probably given the rank of governor,which means she could have been given a better life.

A better life... as a politcal tool? :neutral

Sasuke X
05-01-2008, 11:33 AM
Right. Because memory loss ISN'T an old anime cliche'......riiiiiiiight. More like, one of the oldest LITERARY cliche' ever AMIRITE! AMIRITE!:awesome

So, you're saying it's pure coincidence that the only series that have lead characters quite like Code Geass and Death Note also have plot twists that are near identical?

Memory loss isn't anything new, but a genius losing his memory, along with his power, becoming 'good' and then returning to his true 'evil' self isn't quite so common. Feel free to give me examples.

DarkLordOfKichiku
05-01-2008, 11:49 AM
Memory loss isn't anything new, but a genius losing his memory, along with his power, becoming 'good' and then returning to his true 'evil' self isn't quite so common. Feel free to give me examples.

Hmm, the first example that comes to my mind would be Star Wars KOTOR 1 (assuming that you follow the "evil" route of that game :grin).

Souten Kishun
05-01-2008, 06:13 PM
P.S: Light makes Misa shoot herself.

Can someone besides Fleecy PLEASE tell me this isn't true? Preferably without sarcasm.

PLEASE?!

Sasuke you have seriously sunk below my lowest expectations for you if that's true. I was even starting to regain my respect..


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Sasuke X
05-01-2008, 06:49 PM
There's no need to get upset about me revealing something as small as that - Don't be a drama queen. She was a poor character anyway...

~Shin~
05-01-2008, 07:04 PM
Can someone besides Fleecy PLEASE tell me this isn't true? Preferably without sarcasm.

PLEASE?!

Sasuke you have seriously sunk below my lowest expectations for you if that's true. I was even starting to regain my respect..


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No it's not true.

Sasuke X
05-01-2008, 07:19 PM
No it's not true.

Lying to the guy isn't going to make him feel better when he discovers that I am in fact telling the truth at a later date.

Souten Kishun
05-01-2008, 07:28 PM
No it's not true.

Thanks Shin pal :gar

That set is fucking incredible btw.

There's no need to get upset about me revealing something as small as that - Don't be a drama queen. She was a poor character anyway...

To you.

Well, actually I don't like her either, but I don't want to know what happens to her before it happens.

Seems like you seriously want me to go on another rant :awesome

Seriously, why do select forum goers have to be such dicks. Can I get him banned for that??? Fuck, I seriously hope this is a hoax considering you get as pissed about spoilers as I do.

Sasuke X
05-01-2008, 07:34 PM
I'm doing you a favour be preparing you in advance. I really don't understand your bad attitude here...

Burn this into your memory: Episode 25, near the end, Misa shoots herself in the head.

Severnaruto
05-02-2008, 03:36 AM
I'm doing you a favour be preparing you in advance. I really don't understand your bad attitude here...

Burn this into your memory: Episode 25, near the end, Misa shoots herself in the head.

It's hilarious how you got some people banned for posting minor spoilers, yet you do it yourself.

Btw, don't believe Sasuke X. Still, posting shit like this just to screw around with people isn't very... nice.