Too much focus on Geass and mecha in R2?

[Raistlin-sama]

I really loved the first season of Code Geass. Now, the first season had a bit of this syndrome as well, at least with the whole mecha thing. But it was tolerable, because it never took away the focus from the focal point of the series (in my opnion) which was strategy/tactics and of course character development and character relationships. Lelouch's Geass was powerful - yes, but it had certain rules limiting it's use, making it an interesting tool evening the scales between one single boy and an entire empire.

Now, in season 2, it seems like everyone have them. The king was pretty much a given, so no surprise there, but Rollo as well. And not only that, but he's seems amazingly h4x, with the whole teleport or stopping time or whatever thing he has going on. And then there is the mecha. I mean, come on, Suzaku taking out an entire EU army just like that, why the fuck haven't the British empire wiped out the EU resistance yet then? On this one, I'm willing to cut them some slack though, because it was in the first season as well (it was worrying there too tough, at least Lelouchs extremely overpowered mecha in the end) and they manged to integrate it. On the geass part however, I really think they are giving away to h4x powers and thereby removing some of the stuff that I liked about the series.

That said, I am certainly enjoying R2 so far, but I sure hope these concerns of mine are put to shame. Of course a key factor to the succes of the season is getting a similar emotional impact as that of season one, which isn't really tied to the use of geass and mecha as such, so I am hoping they will do that part of the show right, even if they fail on the more tactical/strategic level, which I am still hoping that they do not.

Well, discuss. :p

[xpto]

About Rollo, wait 'till next ep, we'll probably get an info on his Geass.

About Suzaku, that's just Suzaku for you. Always h4x and spin-kicking.

[Rurushu]

I to will agree that Rollo's Geass is haxed,for the fact that he can stop time.
Suzaku to me isn't really haxed,if it wasn't for the lancelot,the lancelot is what makes him hacked,if at any part In my opinion,I enjoy the Geass moments of the anime,a little bit more than the mecha part,although the mecha part provides alot of action for the anime and makes it enjoyable.

[xpto]

Suzaku isn't h4x? :sag Wall-running and spin-kicking in mid-air enough for ya'?

[Wesley]

Lulu's infallability as a strategist is coming back to bite you in the ass is what's up. "Oh he's so fucking smart, he's a master chess player." He can only fail if a broken mecha appears on the scene or if someone whips out some previously unknown geass hax. I mean, heaven forbid something common like the weather mess up his plans. :notrust

[Amatsu]

Shirley or Kallen should get a geass. :laugh

[Fleecy]

Suzaku isn't h4x? :sag Wall-running and spin-kicking in mid-air enough for ya'?

He's just physically well off I suppose. A guy who practices martial arts in real life could probably do that. The only thing "h4x" about him is probably his compatibility with the Lancelot and his apparent ability to dodge bullets.

[IchiTenshou]

Shirley or Kallen should get a geass. :laugh
if my Kallen got a geass :nuts

[Corran]

So three people have Geass now and that is considered everyone? The show is called Code Geass....
Rolo's Geass isn't that hax, we will find out its limits next ep, which I'm assuming has a distance and time limit. So someones mind probably only stops for a few seconds. And if his geass goes out of control like Lelouchs then things will get very complicated and interesting.
I hope to see a female with Geass this season, it's even possible that witchs can't give Geass to females. So many things that need explaining on Geass.
Too much mecha? Season 1 had the same amount of mecha fights by this point :P At least R2 hasnt had as much Suzaku as last season yet hehe

[Amatsu]

if my Kallen got a geass :nuts

haha I can see it now.

Kallen: ::geass' Lelouch:: Zero you will fuck me

Lelouch: ::is geassed:: Yes mistress.

:rofl :lmao

[Graham Aker]

Which makes Kallen more of a shitty character.
Geass + Fanservice = Nina level, though imo, she already is. Nina fucks the table, Kallen fucks the Gurren' cockpit.


Anyway, there's less mecha in R2 actually. Probably due to Lloyd' absence. One can only say there's too much mecha when there's at least 10 minutes dedicated to talking about machine specs and mecha fights. Season 1 had more mecha in 3 episodes than R2 had.

[Rurushu]

Which makes Kallen more of a shitty character.
Geass + Fanservice = Nina level, though imo, she already is. Nina fucks the table, Kallen fucks the Gurren' cockpit.


Anyway, there's less mecha in R2 actually. Probably due to Lloyd' absence. One can only say there's too much mecha when there's at least 10 minutes dedicated to talking about machine specs and mecha fights. Season 1 had more mecha in 3 episodes than R2 had.

Agreed. More Mecha action in Part One as of now.

[Raistlin-sama]

The amount is not the point, the use of it is, but I digress. That point is somewhat shaky at best.

I think I am talking about this from a different perspective then most of you. I'm talking about the feeling that I am getting from season 2 so far. It seems like they are going to go to far down the geass users road, already symbolized by the Rollo character, in my opinion. Of course I could be proven completely wrong or they may pull it off in a good way.

Lulu's infallability as a strategist is coming back to bite you in the ass is what's up. "Oh he's so fucking smart, he's a master chess player." He can only fail if a broken mecha appears on the scene or if someone whips out some previously unknown geass hax. I mean, heaven forbid something common like the weather mess up his plans.
The whole master strategist thing i definitely overstated, but I'd actually rather see the weather or more importantly someone on his "own level" mess up his plans than overuse of geass. Oh and, the whole "good chess player=good real life military strategist" is a little funny, as the two doesn't necessarily have anything to do with each other at all.

[Goodfellow]

Lulu's infallability as a strategist is coming back to bite you in the ass is what's up. "Oh he's so fucking smart, he's a master chess player." He can only fail if a broken mecha appears on the scene or if someone whips out some previously unknown geass hax. I mean, heaven forbid something common like the weather mess up his plans. :notrust

It has never rained when Lulu has deployed his clever plan:nod

Although yes, I would rather enjoy an episode where the two armies, instead of fighting and engaging in epic duels, rather sit on their fat behinds, waiting for the sky to clear up:nod

[Kasuke Sadiki]

Oh and, the whole "good chess player=good real life military strategist" is a little funny, as the two doesn't necessarily have anything to do with each other at all.

I don't think they're saying that he's a good strategist because he's a good chess player, but rather that he's a good chess player because he's a good strategist. I mean Lelouch had a plan to overthrow Britannia and he was probably working on it ever since his mother's death. He said it himself that obtaining Geass only pushed his schedule forward. So I guess the chess thing is just a quick way of demonstrating his strategic abilities. And yea, I kinda lost my train of thought.

Anyway Code Geass usually does a good job of blending the mecha stuff with the war stuff with the sci-fi stuff and I think they'll continue with that in R2. I doubt we'll get too much of one or the other, 3 episodes in is probably a little early to judge.

[Wesley]

Chess is overly romantisized. Like "Ooo, chess, we're so smart, we're like kings of ole" when it's really all about thinking ahead, and memorizing a combinations of plays. The best players can usually think between forty and fifty moves ahead, but you know supercomputers think billions of moves ahead so that just goes to show you that that advantage isn't all that great since Grandmasters usually manage a draw.

Of course, Lulu's surely not getting by on chess alone. He must have some great insight into the human psyche, while also knowing all of his enemies minds inside ahead. He also knows all about modern weaponry, he memorizes the terrain, he considers the weather, all the while he's inspiring the retarded 11s into doing his bidding.

And he even considers the improbable and hypothetical! If there's something he doesn't know, he can predict that it'll happen anyway and plan accordingly!

They should have started the second season with Lulu having his own Valley Forge, where people were literally eating their own feet. Heaven forbid he has to go through a hell like that though. It's all about what happens to Nuunnnnaaaalllyyyy!

[Mr. Stud Muffin]

It was reported in magazines like Newtype (before the start of the second season) that there would be other geass users. I am just interested in knowing what other Geass abilities there are.

But there is one thing that has made me Like Leouch's Geass...it is, according to C.C. "evolving." Granted, I don't want the Geass to become a sharingan like entity where it can go from 2-tomoe to 3-tomoe then to Mangekyou then to Permanent/Eternal Mangekyou...still, I want Lelouch's Geass to lose some of its limits or gain other powers related to total obedience...

I also don't want the Geass to become cheap...meaning kinda like in Bleach...I don't want characters all of a sudden busting out bankais when bankais are supposed to be extremely rare power-ups.

[Rurushu]

It was reported in magazines like Newtype (before the start of the second season) that there would be other geass users. I am just interested in knowing what other Geass abilities there are.

But there is one thing that has made me Like Leouch's Geass...it is, according to C.C. "evolving." Granted, I don't want the Geass to become a sharingan like entity where it can go from 2-tomoe to 3-tomoe then to Mangekyou then to Permanent/Eternal Mangekyou...still, I want Lelouch's Geass to lose some of its limits or gain other powers related to total obedience...

I also don't want the Geass to become cheap...meaning kinda like in Bleach...I don't want characters all of a sudden busting out bankais when bankais are supposed to be extremely rare power-ups.

I know how you feel but I serious don't think there will be any more Geass users introduced. Lelouch,Rollo, and Charles I think their done with giving people their Geass,since they still need to explain how Charles got his.

[Rukia]

Well, i'm not going to debate the geass part of the question...I could go either way on that one. But I will say that I disagree regarding the mecha. How has R2 focused on the mecha too much? 3 episodes in...they haven't focused on the mecha at all. Maybe you are forecasting based on spoilers, but it's useless to speculate on that without actually seeing these spoilers in action. One new frame this season (a mass production model based on an older generation unit), and only one brief Knightmare Frame skirmish. I think a lot of fans would complain that they haven't focused on mecha enough so far this season. (Like I said...only one battle so far.)

[Muk]

Kallen + Geass + Fanservice = Tabel-kun :awesome

as far as the geass is concerned ... we just started the serie ... give it a little time

mecha ... well that's suzaku for ya ... and i don't like it either

[Zarigani]

Nah, I like mecha.

[crabman]

Well, i'm not going to debate the geass part of the question...I could go either way on that one. But I will say that I disagree regarding the mecha. How has R2 focused on the mecha too much? 3 episodes in...they haven't focused on the mecha at all. Maybe you are forecasting based on spoilers, but it's useless to speculate on that without actually seeing these spoilers in action. One new frame this season (a mass production model based on an older generation unit), and only one brief Knightmare Frame skirmish. I think a lot of fans would complain that they haven't focused on mecha enough so far this season. (Like I said...only one battle so far.)

Agreed! Even Rollo's hacked frame is due to his geass. Probably wouldn't be so great if he couldn't stop time and stab you.

And blah blah blah Suzaku, when HASN'T he been able to take on an entire army and live without a scratch? Scratch that, when hasn't ANY main mecha person been able to take on an entire army and live?

Gurren laggen doesn't count!

[Nae'blis]

The focus is needed I think, although I would have preferred if Geass users weren't all popping out of the woodworks.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

There aren't that many Geass users in code geass.. Yet. I think that at most, we'll see one or two more users of geass, eithr new characters or someone who will receive geass later on.

In any event, I'd rater we get a lot of focus on mecha and geass than Ashford academy :P

[xpto]

Ashford is necessary and fun filler. :pek

[DeathGuise_of_Oblivion]

That said, I am certainly enjoying R2 so far, but I sure hope these concerns of mine are put to shame. Of course a key factor to the succes of the season is getting a similar emotional impact as that of season one, which isn't really tied to the use of geass and mecha as such, so I am hoping they will do that part of the show right, even if they fail on the more tactical/strategic level, which I am still hoping that they do not.

Well, discuss. :p


............*pistol whips you* :sun Don't start with me. The only problem with last season was the goddam pizza throwing Ganymede episode. Thats IT! Mecha=Awesome. <-----Fact! More Mecha=More Awesome. TTGL didn't have a couple of shits flying around and everyone simply amazed by it. Everyone had one. Even Yoko had a Sniping Table one in the beginning. The fact that in the last five episodes EVERYONE gets an upgrade made TTGL the shit to watch. Because even side characters that had absolutely no plot importance got some upgraded shit. That and boobs. :nod

Gawain was awesome and in my opinion should've wiped the floor with the Lancelot. But now we have Rollo's Vincent to do that for us. :hehee

[Jetstorm]

Ashford sucks as of now. >_>

Also there has been hardly any Mecha and having 2 Geass users pop up isn't that bad. If there were something like each knight of the round having one then it would be too much.

Granted stopping time is too badass for a fag like Rollo. :pek

[Nae'blis]

^ lol @ Rollo. One of the most enjoyable aspects of the anime was Ashford Academy and the interplay or seemingly mundane matters (the Shirley love and subsequent incident remains one of the most emotionally gut wrenching for me) and the seriousness of his role within the Order of the Black Knights.