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Fleecy
04-19-2008, 09:58 PM
Well, I still think Suzaku is generally more hated by this fandom, but it's hilarious how these two are almost always mentioned in the "least favorite character" thread. :laugh

Suzaku is my favorite character (got a problem with that? :sun), so obviously I dislike Nina more.

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-19-2008, 10:03 PM
Suzaku of course :P

Shiraishi
04-19-2008, 10:05 PM
Probably Nina...

Suzaku has been much better Season 2.

Stallyns808
04-19-2008, 10:07 PM
Nina, her racism pisses me off.

Prince Leon
04-19-2008, 10:17 PM
Suzaku, easily.

Nina might be an apparent racist but that's nothing compared to Suzaku's epic-level of doucheness.

Kira Yamato
04-19-2008, 10:20 PM
Hate is such a loaded word. I'd say I least like Nena, but only by a thin margin. :P

Batman
04-19-2008, 10:29 PM
Suzaku, easily.

Nina might be an apparent racist but that's nothing compared to Suzaku's epic-level of doucheness.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Amatsu
04-19-2008, 10:46 PM
I hate both of them equally. I want them both to die.

Corran
04-19-2008, 10:50 PM
Imagine if they got together and had kids :wha

Amatsu
04-19-2008, 10:51 PM
nah the only person Nina would want to have kids with is Euphie. It's just hilarious how Nina is a necrophilliac.

Wesley
04-19-2008, 10:51 PM
Imagine if they got together and had kids :wha

That pairing would recieve alot of backhanded support.

Fleecy
04-19-2008, 10:55 PM
Imagine if they got together and had kids :wha

They both like Euphie and both went crazy after their death, so who knows?

But two negatives = a positive? :LOS

Souten Kishun
04-19-2008, 11:38 PM
Nina by a long shot.

Suzaku is one of my top 5 favorites.

Nina is one of my bottom 5 favorites.

Ayer
04-19-2008, 11:38 PM
Nina.

Her character is... harder to imagine IRL.

Fleecy
04-19-2008, 11:40 PM
Wow, what a competition this is turning out to be! :hehee

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-19-2008, 11:55 PM
Imagine if they got together and had kids :wha

Most likelty on't happen; you know how Nina reacts to "elevens" :notrust .

IchiTenshou
04-19-2008, 11:57 PM
um Suzaaku!!

Saruto
04-20-2008, 12:36 AM
Lol, it's 50/50.

Rokudaime
04-20-2008, 12:42 AM
Well..Who should I hate more?

Someone who betrayed his friends or someone who raped the table-kun....Hmmm...I guess I hate someone who is the table rapist that betrayed his friends for promotion.

superman_1
04-20-2008, 12:49 AM
nina..... creepy racist who masturbates with table..... poor table had been violated...

to me...suzaku is still bearable sometimes and annoying but still i dont hate him as much as nina but watever...but i find his "changing the britannia from inside" is wat sounds kinda lame as he hasnt made any progress there..lol.....watever though dont care much for him anyways.....

oka
04-20-2008, 12:50 AM
Suzaku

Nina just snapped when Euphie died. She is already "unstable" before her death.

Suzaku... meh... he was preaching about how 'your ways are wrong" while "my is the way justice" blah blah blah... loads of craps with the current stand he is taking. Hypocrisy at its highest.

Sena Kobayakawa
04-20-2008, 04:06 AM
I hate both and I also HATE Rollo.

wild09
04-20-2008, 04:27 AM
Every time I see Nina in this anime since she says Evelen for no damn reason to that reble she has managed to do something really messed up. She is the only minor character I have ever hated to the point where I wished her death. When I saw her in the intro to R2 I was really pissed off. Man I hope she dies but if she was gonna die she would have a while ago. It's hopeless now...

Watchman
04-20-2008, 04:34 AM
I'd say I dislike Nina more. Her every appearance just reminds me of her racist hatred for Elevens.

I disliked Suzaku in the beginning, when just seemed to be Mr. Naive "Working together makes everything better, lol! :awesome" sanctimonious prick. As it is now, he is simply doing what he thinks is the best way to improve the lives of the Japanese people, and is dedicated enough to the cause to sell out his best friend without hesitation. I like that.

uchiha-alia
04-20-2008, 04:42 AM
i try not to think of nina, that racist just freaks me out.

I gotta say suzaku takes this.

Juanita Tequila
04-20-2008, 04:49 AM
Suzaku of course! He's such an abomination to this anime.

Nina on the other hand with her mindless table fucks, brings wonders to CG. :LOS

xpto
04-20-2008, 11:25 AM
SUZAKU!:argh

Nina looks kinda hot. :LOS

Felix
04-20-2008, 11:41 AM
Nina :awesome

Poison Ivy
04-20-2008, 12:05 PM
Suzaku, I <3 Nina :ohpek

Seitoukaichou
04-20-2008, 05:41 PM
Suzaku pisses me even more off in Season II ... so obviously it his him who I hate the most XD!
Ninarina is close 2nd though o.o
... do I even have a third XD? the hate for those two overshadows anything else xD""""

NaelokQ
04-20-2008, 05:46 PM
Nina is a filthy racist, but Suzaku's boundless hypocrisy earns him my eternal hate.

Velliano
04-20-2008, 06:59 PM
Suzaku, the hypocrite betraying his own kind is worse than Nina's ignorant racism

Tori
04-20-2008, 07:13 PM
Nina, her crazy post-traumatic stress over Euphie-hime's death wasn't even justified. :huh She was just an undeveloped waste of space. :notrust

Kitsune
04-20-2008, 09:54 PM
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w207/Rukiblog/CG23/vlcsnap-69638.png

Nina because she's just creepy.

IchiTenshou
04-20-2008, 10:03 PM
Suzaku betrayed his friendship with Lelouch >_<
Hate Suzaku :yell

Shiron
04-20-2008, 10:18 PM
Don't really hate either of them, but Nina annoys me more.

Roy Mustang
04-20-2008, 10:23 PM
NINNNNNNAAAAA

nina > suzaku

2Shea
04-20-2008, 10:34 PM
Psshh, table fucker over suzaku :pek

Can't ever forgive the traitor :yell

Sorrow-Tear's Champion
04-21-2008, 12:33 AM
Where's the Suzkau's emo friend in the fencing mask option.

dspr8_rugged
04-21-2008, 01:12 AM
I never liked Nina from the very start. :pek

Lastier
04-21-2008, 03:42 AM
Where is the Rollo option? >:

I think I dislike Suzaku more as long as Rollo is not added to the poll.

Rurushu
04-21-2008, 05:01 AM
Suzaku tedious interferences with his Lancelot is annoying,his save the day antics,and his false sense of justice,really pisses me off. Also,the fact that he gets away with killing his father,but all of a sudden when his princess dies,he wants to bring Zero to justice,and sell out his friend Lelouch.

Douchebag certified.

uncanny_sama
04-21-2008, 05:14 AM
nina

why?

cus nina is a fucking cunt that freaks out at everything and while she is sooo smart
she lacks the ability to fucking think rational

like fucking blowing up the entire school just cuz some bitch you met once
gets killed?

go see a shrink bitch :mad

Zaru
04-21-2008, 07:27 AM
Suzaku is a bitch

Nina is an annoying bitch

That's enough to say.

O
04-21-2008, 07:29 AM
Nina is a racist nerd who plans school shootings with a nuclear powered mecha for the lulz, which means she's basically a /b/tard.


Suzaku is a total asshole who would sell his best friend out for a rank and still act self-righteous about it.


Suzaku takes this.

Locksmith
04-21-2008, 11:17 AM
Nina.

Nina is a racist psychopath.

Suzaku has good intentions though I think his methods are naive. As for turning in Lelouch, the man killed the love of Suzaku's life. He acted much more practically minded than usual by handing him over rather than just killing him. The main thing I have against Suzaku at the moment is that he said he would save Nunally and we have seen no evidence of that yet.

MajorThor
04-21-2008, 11:24 AM
Nina.

Nina is a racist psychopath.

Suzaku has good intentions though I think his methods are naive. As for turning in Lelouch, the man killed the love of Suzaku's life. He acted much more practically minded than usual by handing him over rather than just killing him. The main thing I have against Suzaku at the moment is that he said he would save Nunally and we have seen no evidence of that yet.

Suzaku killed his own father and tried to pass it off as justice.

Then he turns around and betrays his one and only friend that he's ever known just for rank. He may say he wants to fix Britainia(spellcheck. fuck) from the inside out....he's just an 11...he wants status. Clear and simple.

Wesley
04-21-2008, 12:42 PM
Did he hate his father?

Watchman
04-21-2008, 12:43 PM
Suzaku killed his own father and tried to pass it off as justice.

Lelouch killed his half-brother and passed it off as Justice, if you want to make things so simple. :zaru

Then he turns around and betrays his one and only friend that he's ever known just for rank.

His one and only friend that has, over a couple months, been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of people, including Euphie and the SAZ, and was using the Japanese people as a springboard for his personal vendetta with the Emperor (This is most likely what Suzaku's perspective of things were, not my personal views on the matter)

He may say he wants to fix Britainia(spellcheck. fuck) from the inside out....he's just an 11...he wants status. Clear and simple.

Wrong. If all he wanted was status, he would not have asked the Emperor to be inducted into the Knights of the Round, would he? He'd have asked to have been made an Earl or something, and BAM! instant status. He wants instead to become the Knight of One, who is designated control of a single Area, and then make Japan better from there. Really, this is, to him, the only feasible option - even if Lelouch does expel the Britannians from Japan, then there's still the whole Empire out there... :doh

EDIT: Wesley, I don't think he hated his father, but thought that his continued resistance to Britannia (Suzaku's father came across as someone who would do something similar to the Japanese plans in WW2 in case they were ever invaded), would destroy Japan completely.

uncanny_sama
04-21-2008, 01:19 PM
Lelouch killed his half-brother and passed it off as Justice, if you want to make things so simple. :zaru



His one and only friend that has, over a couple months, been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of people, including Euphie and the SAZ, and was using the Japanese people as a springboard for his personal vendetta with the Emperor (This is most likely what Suzaku's perspective of things were, not my personal views on the matter)



Wrong. If all he wanted was status, he would not have asked the Emperor to be inducted into the Knights of the Round, would he? He'd have asked to have been made an Earl or something, and BAM! instant status. He wants instead to become the Knight of One, who is designated control of a single Area, and then make Japan better from there. Really, this is, to him, the only feasible option - even if Lelouch does expel the Britannians from Japan, then there's still the whole Empire out there... :doh

EDIT: Wesley, I don't think he hated his father, but thought that his continued resistance to Britannia (Suzaku's father came across as someone who would do something similar to the Japanese plans in WW2 in case they were ever invaded), would destroy Japan completely.

his half brother killed inocent people for no reason

killing him IS justice

suzaku is an idiot going on war for a lost love
but hes so naive

now he is killing inocent people

at first he didnt kill

now he just shoots the enemy mechas like its not thing

changing from the inside out my ass

hes a traitor

Fleecy
04-21-2008, 04:44 PM
his half brother killed inocent people for no reason

killing him IS justice

suzaku is an idiot going on war for a lost love
but hes so naive

now he is killing inocent people

at first he didnt kill

now he just shoots the enemy mechas like its not thing

changing from the inside out my ass

hes a traitor

:facepalm

Suzaku's father was worse than Clovis. He tried to control the people and was pretty much a tyrant with his position. He had nothing good about him while Clovis at least cared about his brothers and sisters (and had a soft spot for art and beauty despite having no qualms with killing innocents). Plus, at least Suzaku felt guilty about his actions and murder of his father that he was virtually suicidal (until Lelouch Geass'ed him to live). Lelouch wasn't sorrowful at all with Clovis' death. Get that right before you say Suzaku killing his father was worse than Lelouch killing his brother. :oh

Suzaku has changed. He once didn't want to fight at all, but he realized that in order to achieve peace he had t fight. Just because he didn't have an internal monologue that specifically said, "Well... I guess I have to fight to achieve results" doesn't mean he wasn't thinking it. So would you rather have him remain his naive, stupid self and try not to resort to violence, or have him realize that he must fight in order to maintain control? He is not hypocritical in that sense.

But then again, most would probably hate him either way. That's just how the majority of the CG fandom feels.

uncanny_sama
04-21-2008, 05:09 PM
who cares if clovis a cared about his brothers and sisters
of course he would care about them they are his family

but he ordered his troops to kill hundreds of inocent elevens in the getto area
just to flush out the terrorists they were after
he abused his power to hurt the defenceless

there for zero killed him

the black order protects the weak agains the strong who abuse their power

thats why he was killed and thats why in that sense it was justice

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-21-2008, 05:17 PM
Suzaku's father was worse than Clovis. He tried to control the people and was pretty much a tyrant with his position. He had nothing good about him while Clovis at least cared about his brothers and sisters (and had a soft spot for art and beauty despite having no qualms with killing innocents).

I'll agree that Clovis might not have been a complete bastard at least :wink . Still, that last bit sounds a little strange :P

Suzaku has changed. He once didn't want to fight at all, but he realized that in order to achieve peace he had t fight. Just because he didn't have an internal monologue that specifically said, "Well... I guess I have to fight to achieve results" doesn't mean he wasn't thinking it. So would you rather have him remain his naive, stupid self and try not to resort to violence, or have him realize that he must fight in order to maintain control? He is not hypocritical in that sense.

Well, I'm sort of glad that he has sort of matured in a sense as far as his naive beliefs goes, through it does make him at least a bit of a hypocrite to abandon his former philosophy and instead use a more... Zero-like approach to things these days, which he as his former self would have abhored...

But then again, most would probably hate him either way. That's just how the majority of the CG fandom feels.

Funny that you should mention that; In a recent poll that is still ongoping on Random Curiousity that asks the readers "Whom, would you rather want to die at the end, Suzaku or Lelouch?", Suzaku takes a large lead with 76% of the votes.. <_<.

Fleecy
04-21-2008, 11:39 PM
who cares if clovis a cared about his brothers and sisters
of course he would care about them they are his family

but he ordered his troops to kill hundreds of inocent elevens in the getto area
just to flush out the terrorists they were after
he abused his power to hurt the defenceless

there for zero killed him

the black order protects the weak agains the strong who abuse their power

thats why he was killed and thats why in that sense it was justice

So why do you neglect to say that Suzaku's murder of his father was "justice", too? Even Lelouch himself approved or at least understood that Suzaku's father had a horrible greed for power and would have corrupted everything had he lived (and for the record, he didn't care about anyone including his son, as opposed to Clovis who only cared about his family and himself; therefore yes, he is worse than Clovis, which is pretty bad).

Suzaku has tons of faults to criticize, but please; the whole father-killing thing is the least of his flaws (if it can even be considered a flaw at all). He was right for killing his dad and calling it justice--at the very least it is the same as Lelouch's murder of Clovis. Not even that, but Suzaku felt guilty to the point of almost committing suicide (ex. if you knew your dad was a killer but he was still your dad, wouldn't you be conflicted? A normal human being would be). Lelouch, on the other hand, only felt a tad of remorse (which wasn't even for Clovis himself).

Corran
04-22-2008, 12:32 AM
It never occured to me that Suzaku's father was an evil bastard bent on gathering power. Judging by people's opinion of him they respected him for trying to fight Britania.
I understand why Suzaku believed he had to kill him, so all Japanese wouldn't be wiped out. It worked at least. But it's hard to say if it was the right thing to do since Suzaku decided for all of Japan when he did that.

Yeah I probably only make sense to myself :laugh

uncanny_sama
04-22-2008, 02:02 PM
i never talked about suzaku
somebody said killing clovis wasnt justice so i replied to that
then you came and put suzaku in the middle

Zarigani
04-22-2008, 03:49 PM
Actually I dislike Rolo quite a bit. Rookie ain't supposed to do shit.

9th
04-22-2008, 07:34 PM
This was hard, but Suzaku took this one. Even though i would like to see Rolo kill Nina.

Vic Vinegar
04-22-2008, 08:43 PM
nina is the very best character from this season

everything she has done so far has been so perfect and nina

she should be the king of britannia and not that faggot

Amatsu
04-22-2008, 09:34 PM
nina is the very best character from this season

everything she has done so far has been so perfect and nina

she should be the king of britannia and not that faggot

I think I want to hit myself in the head with the sharp side of a hammer after reading that.

Cookies
04-22-2008, 11:45 PM
nina is the very best character from this season

everything she has done so far has been so perfect and nina

she should be the king of britannia and not that faggot

Oh yes. Though she only had one appearance really, and that was her just freaking out because Zero is back. Total Empress material.

Fabian the Fastman
04-22-2008, 11:49 PM
IIYAYUH Suzaku hating FTMFW

MajorThor
04-23-2008, 03:27 AM
Lelouch killed his half-brother and passed it off as Justice, if you want to make things so simple. :zaru



His one and only friend that has, over a couple months, been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of people, including Euphie and the SAZ, and was using the Japanese people as a springboard for his personal vendetta with the Emperor (This is most likely what Suzaku's perspective of things were, not my personal views on the matter)



Wrong. If all he wanted was status, he would not have asked the Emperor to be inducted into the Knights of the Round, would he? He'd have asked to have been made an Earl or something, and BAM! instant status. He wants instead to become the Knight of One, who is designated control of a single Area, and then make Japan better from there. Really, this is, to him, the only feasible option - even if Lelouch does expel the Britannians from Japan, then there's still the whole Empire out there... :doh

EDIT: Wesley, I don't think he hated his father, but thought that his continued resistance to Britannia (Suzaku's father came across as someone who would do something similar to the Japanese plans in WW2 in case they were ever invaded), would destroy Japan completely.

Suzaku is a douche!!! Needs to DIAF. If he was anything like a REAL man he'd team up with Lulu and rapestomp Britainia.

Ninas racism is tolerable tho. She's just misguided.

End result, Suzaku is a douche.

MuNaZ
04-23-2008, 06:55 AM
Suzaku, easily.

Nina might be an apparent racist but that's nothing compared to Suzaku's epic-level of doucheness.

Yeah....

I hate both of them equally. I want them both to die.

I want it to be slowly and painful... :pek

Imagine if they got together and had kids :wha

NO!!!! anything but that!

Jetstorm
04-23-2008, 01:09 PM
Pretty damn even for me. Nina's a fugly racist and Suzaku is a bastard that betrayed his friend and own race yet doesn't mind being the dog of the world's oppressors.

Molekage
04-24-2008, 01:21 AM
suzaku. god hes annoying

nina's just creepy as hell :iik

Mr. Stud Muffin
04-27-2008, 04:44 AM
Suzaku.

But Nina is a close second.

EDIT: This is how I look at it...

I would much rather watch psycho Euphemia fangirl hump a table till she climaxes than watch Suzaku do the most ridiculous 1080 spin kick ever.

Pringer Lagann
04-30-2008, 04:49 PM
Suzaku, the Faggot of rounds

Rin
04-30-2008, 06:49 PM
Suzaku, just looking at his face pisses me off. Nina only annoys me when she does something stupid. So Suzaku takes the cake. :mad

Ronin
04-30-2008, 07:57 PM
Pretty damn even for me. Nina's a fugly racist and Suzaku is a bastard that betrayed his friend and own race yet doesn't mind being the dog of the world's oppressors.

Agree with ya on everything. Its hard to decide between the two, the only thing I disagree with is that Nina is fugly, Nina is more than fugly, shes a troglodyte.

Amatsu
04-30-2008, 08:06 PM
Nina will totally come back as a geass user to try and fuck up Lelouch's shit only to be spin kicked by douchezaku... or pwned by Rollo, Lelouch, and Kallen.

TalikX
04-30-2008, 09:07 PM
Nina is one crazy bitch.

Rukia
04-30-2008, 09:09 PM
I hate Nunnally more.

crabman
04-30-2008, 09:26 PM
Suzaku.

But Nina is a close second.

EDIT: This is how I look at it...

I would much rather watch psycho Euphemia fangirl hump a table till she climaxes than watch Suzaku do the most ridiculous 1080 spin kick ever.

Hm... when you put it that way. I see what you mean.

Still, Suzaku has morales and sticks to those morales which at least makes him a little gar.

Nina on the otherhand... I have nothing good to say about Nina. She's ugly, crazy, always ends up with that huge eyed "I'm crazy" look. You know this one: http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w207/Rukiblog/CG23/vlcsnap-69638.png

And apparantly other people agree since that's the first link on google.

Souten Kishun
04-30-2008, 09:44 PM
WTF Aethos. You used to like Suzaku ...and now every post you make you're nailing him in some form or another.

Way to join the crowd of brainless haters :/

Amatsu
04-30-2008, 09:47 PM
WTF Aethos. You used to like Suzaku and now every post you make you're nailing him in some form or another.

Way to join the crowd of brainless haters :/

Hey now I liked Suzaku up until episode 2 of R2. Douchezaku is DO NOT WANT.

season 1 Suzaku was cool though. If this was season 1 suzaku vs Nina I'd be hating Nina more than Suzaku. Season 2 though put Suzaku right up there on Nina level...

Souten Kishun
04-30-2008, 10:40 PM
He's gonna get better, mark my words. He's not the complete douche he looked like in episode 2.

Until then, I'll let you slide :pek

Amatsu
04-30-2008, 10:43 PM
He's gonna get better, mark my words. He's not the complete douche he looked like in episode 2.

Until then, I'll let you slide :pek

Well I have to admit when Suzaku gets utterly pwned by Lelouch I'll probably laugh due to what he did in episode 2...

But fine. We'll see if douchezaku can get better. I appreciate you letting me slide for now.

Nae'blis
04-30-2008, 11:02 PM
I don't really hate Nina, she is just crazy and thus needs help. Suzaku is a loathsome hypocrite who can only be helped in death.

Graham Aker
04-30-2008, 11:11 PM
Who Do You Hate More? Suzaku or Nina?
Kallen Stadtfail

Amatsu
04-30-2008, 11:13 PM
Kallen Stadtfail

::spin kicks::

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-30-2008, 11:19 PM
I hate Nunnally more.

Kallen Stadtfail

Guys, isn't it better to start a thread and/or poll about "Which character in CG do you hate the most?" instead of bringing up other names in a thread that narrows down the choice to either Nina or Suzaku? :huh

Amatsu
04-30-2008, 11:22 PM
I just have to wonde rhow you can hate Kallen or Nunally more than Nina.

DarkLordOfKichiku
04-30-2008, 11:27 PM
I just have to wonde rhow you can hate Kallen or Nunally more than Nina.

Well, nearly all characters of any story/anime/whatever will have his/her/it's haters... :apathy.
As I get it, people hate Nunnally because she supposedly has some evil plot going on and those who hate Kallen seems to do so mainly because of her loyality towards Zero...

Hangatýr
05-01-2008, 07:20 AM
Nina for me, her incessant being a wussy bitch in S1 was just god damn annoying, the only good thing was her fapping.

Pepmoix
05-01-2008, 07:37 AM
Suzaku is a lameass douchebag, so I don't hate him, just feel sorry for him.

Nina, on the other hand is probably the most annoying and retarded character in the history of anime series. And that's saying something.

Rukia
05-01-2008, 08:54 AM
Suzaku is a lameass douchebag, so I don't hate him, just feel sorry for him.

Nina, on the other hand is probably the most annoying and retarded character in the history of anime series. And that's saying something.Nope, that distinction still belongs to Nunnally. What a POS character! :sun

You guys will warm to Suzaku a bit this year...he will be cooler by default since he's hanging out with Zino and Anya.

As for Kallen...she's too hot for me to hate. It's like Yoko from Gurren Lagann...i'm not capable of hating either of them...but I am dissatisfied with the roles they play. Kallen needs a significant storyline this season. Maybe she will betray Lelouch or get pregnant with his baby. CC seems to be getting along well with her...maybe CC and her can pursue a lesbian relationship behind Lelouch's back? In other words, I don't really care...just give her something to do!!!

Shodai
05-01-2008, 09:54 AM
SUZAKU IS THE MAN







(I voted for him.)

SpitefulSerpent5
05-01-2008, 12:14 PM
As I get it, people hate Nunnally because she supposedly has some evil plot going on and those who hate Kallen seems to do so mainly because of her loyality towards Zero...

That's quite odd for me then. Kallen's loyalty is one of the things that makes me like her so much as a character. It seems she'll never abandon Zero and he needs somebody who'll stand by him besides C.C.

I hate Nunally because whenever she appears on screen she only seems to spout the same shallow sentimental crap, and makes the entire scene go slower for me. If she had an evil plot, it would significantly increase my love for her.

So I guess the reasons people hate the characters is the same reason I love them. :huh

Rukia
05-01-2008, 12:19 PM
I just have to wonde rhow you can hate Kallen or Nunally more than Nina.Because Nunnally is an evil bitch. :nod

I'm completely indifferent to Nina. She can keep making her ugly faces all she wants. She doesn't affect the story, and she doesn't eat screen time.

Fleecy
05-01-2008, 03:37 PM
That's quite odd for me then. Kallen's loyalty is one of the things that makes me like her so much as a character. It seems she'll never abandon Zero and he needs somebody who'll stand by him besides C.C.

I hate Nunally because whenever she appears on screen she only seems to spout the same shallow sentimental crap, and makes the entire scene go slower for me. If she had an evil plot, it would significantly increase my love for her.

So I guess the reasons people hate the characters is the same reason I love them. :huh

Well, I hate Nunnally for the same reason you do (and more), not because of the rumor that she would be evil. At least if she became evil she'd be more interesting.

However, I hate Kallen for the same reason you like her (again, and more). I hate her for the reasons I stated in the "Who's Your Least Favorite Character?" thread. She has her good moments, but her way of acting disgusts me. She just made me :facepalm since episode 9.

DarkLordOfKichiku
05-01-2008, 04:11 PM
That's quite odd for me then. Kallen's loyalty is one of the things that makes me like her so much as a character. It seems she'll never abandon Zero and he needs somebody who'll stand by him besides C.C.

So I guess the reasons people hate the characters is the same reason I love them. :huh

It's probably a simple matter of "Whatever floats your boat". Though I think that if people hate Kallen for her loyality towards Zero, they might as well hat Diethard, for example :laugh

Severnaruto
05-01-2008, 04:23 PM
It's probably a simple matter of "Whatever floats your boat". Though I think that if people hate Kallen for her loyality towards Zero, they might as well hat Diethard, for example :laugh

Well, at least the writers have never felt the need to show Diethard in the shower or in a bunny suit. The constant fanservice for Kallen--and how some people just lap it up--annoys me more then anything else.

DarkLordOfKichiku
05-01-2008, 04:26 PM
Well, at least the writers have never felt the need to show Diethard in the shower or in a bunny suit. The constant fanservice for Kallen--and how some people just lap it up--annoys me more then anything else.

I might agree that the bunny suit was a bit overkill, but otherwise.. Are you saying that we shouldn't get any fanservice at all for one of the hotest girls in the series? :wtf

Amatsu
05-01-2008, 04:34 PM
Because Nunnally is an evil bitch. :nod

I'm completely indifferent to Nina. She can keep making her ugly faces all she wants. She doesn't affect the story, and she doesn't eat screen time.

She tried to blow up a school because she's an ugly emo lesbian and shit. I mean seriously couldn't she have slit her wrists like normal people?

Pepmoix
05-01-2008, 04:50 PM
Well, at least the writers have never felt the need to show Diethard in the shower or in a bunny suit. The constant fanservice for Kallen--and how some people just lap it up--annoys me more then anything else.

Would you actually rather see Diethard in a bunny suit?

I think that the kallen fanservice it's some sort of compensation. The girls have Lelouch, Suzaku, Rolo, Schneizel and the rest of bishies whom they enjoy so much and cope much of the screen time with their pretty-boy faces. Why kid ourselves, the series has a very strong yaoi air about it, and the Kallen fanservice, as I see it, it's merely done to catch the attention of young japanese males and give them something to fap to (not that I'm complaining). Otherwise, without kallen getting her boobs and rear on the screen, or withut the newly added Anya's loli looks every now and then, most of that audince would go away.

Maybe it's a sad fact, but that's how it is. Compensation of Bishies by means of Boobs on screen.

Souten Kishun
05-01-2008, 05:10 PM
I just have to wonde rhow you can hate Kallen or Nunally more than Nina.

Look past their appearances. It's as simple as that :facepalm

Nunnally deserves no hate though ~she's done nothing to warrant it yet. Sure a little annoyance makes sense, if you hate her optimistic attitude (wtf), but beyond that people are just being stupid.

Nope, that distinction still belongs to Nunnally. What a POS character! :sun

You guys will warm to Suzaku a bit this year...he will be cooler by default since he's hanging out with Zino and Anya.

As for Kallen...she's too hot for me to hate. It's like Yoko from Gurren Lagann...i'm not capable of hating either of them...but I am dissatisfied with the roles they play. Kallen needs a significant storyline this season. Maybe she will betray Lelouch or get pregnant with his baby. CC seems to be getting along well with her...maybe CC and her can pursue a lesbian relationship behind Lelouch's back? In other words, I don't really care...just give her something to do!!!

You win dumbest post of the day :zaru

Amatsu
05-01-2008, 05:23 PM
Look past their appearances. It's as simple as that :facepalm

Nunnally deserves no hate though ~she's done nothing to warrant it yet. Sure a little annoyance makes sense, if you hate her optimistic attitude (wtf), but beyond that people are just being stupid.




eh? I like Kallen's personality and character. Seriously I don't see why she should be hated.

and I agree with you about Nunally.

Souten Kishun
05-01-2008, 05:44 PM
eh? I like Kallen's personality and character. Seriously I don't see why she should be hated.

and I agree with you about Nunally.

Yeah, I know, Kallen can be likeable. She's pretty OCD though, which is why I'm not a huge fan. She doesn't seem to have that much of a justification to follow Lelouch nor did she have much of a reason to hate her mom so much. She's too close-minded. Supposedly she fights for her brother but I think she's half-lost that motive now. But generally, yeah she's ok. Her scene with Ohgi last ep really gave me hope in her again.

You just give Nina too hard a time. The only thing she's a bitch for is being a frightened racists against the Japanese. Everything else isn't that bad. She definitely should've thought things through before almost blowing up her friends, but she's a typical overemotional high schooler. That can be forgiven... I guess xD

Rukia
05-01-2008, 05:49 PM
Oh please...it's only dumb if you are naive enough to believe every word. Personally, I think that was a hilarious post. I am still patting myself on the back. :nod

Fleecy
05-01-2008, 10:18 PM
eh? I like Kallen's personality and character. Seriously I don't see why she should be hated.

and I agree with you about Nunally.

I know I created this thread to find out just who was the most hated character (for a while it was Nina, and then it was Suzaku! :awesome), but I feel obligated to say something about this.

Never say, "so-and-so doesn't deserve hate" or anything along those lines. Characters who are to some degree important to the storyline have more than one facet to their personalities. There is always something to be criticized, even something that seems to be a good trait.

In fanfiction, why do people hate Mary-Sues? Because they are designed to be perfect, without fault, and the idol of everyone's eyes. Why do people hate optimistic or sweet characters? Because they view their personalities as too idealistic and shallow, or too sickeningly sacchrine. It is the same for people who detest overly sweet foods--the same for people who detest overly sweet characters. It's not wrong to hate a character for being so cute/sweet to the degree that no fault can seem to stain them, and some hate that. Some hate that purity or overdose in sacks of sugar in them because they see that as irritating.

Why do people hate Nunnally? Well, you may get an unorthodox opinion like from Rukia, who thinks she is evil and wicked (possibly further on in the plot). But, as I see it, the majority of her haters dislike her for the reason of being what I stated above: too sickeningly sweet and perfect. I'm not talking about physical characteristics (though some people judge on a character's appearance, too). I'm talking about the typical "tee hee I love you and you love me" character that gets on people's nerves. In real life you may not hate a person like that, but Nunnally is a character. Characters are rinsed and repeated to the degree that they become dry and dull, and she is certainly no exception.

Why do people hate Kallen? I could go on a tangent here like I did on the "Least Favorite Character" thread, but come on now. Not everyone is a flaming pervert or someone who particularly enjoys an anime for its lecherous inferences. However, it is rare. That's exactly why everyone freaks out when people don't like Kallen: "But... How can you not like her?! TEH BEWBS! You don't like TEH BEWBS?! :uwah" Of course, I am not just taking aim at the excess of Kallen fanservice. It's her personality as well. You may have a preference for characters like her, but others may not. Some people don't like characters who scream "DIE BRITANNIA! :yell" and then whisper "Omg help me Brother, they're gonna kill me! :cry" Her moods are tumultuous and jerky, she is wishy-washy, she is too dependent on Zero, and she is extremely impulsive to the point that people could consider her stupid (i.e.trying to knife people three times in the exact same fashion).

Now, just because the majority likes a character does not mean that character should not be disliked. Ergo, something popular is not always great, and something great is not always popular. It is the same individualistically; even if you love a particular character, that does not mean others will be guaranteed to as well. True, it is not pleasant when people hate on the characters you love, but it happens, and they have every right to dislike or like a character. Unless you yourself can somehow convince the haters to like the character in question, they will continue to see the character as they do and think of them how they please.

I'm sorry for going off topic here (but at least it was still focused on hatred! :zaru), but it just irks me when the fandom says "he/she doesn't 'deserve' to be hated." Saying that just makes me scrutinize their character more and be able to pick out faults more easily...

Amatsu
05-01-2008, 10:23 PM
Yeah, I know, Kallen can be likeable. She's pretty OCD though, which is why I'm not a huge fan. She doesn't seem to have that much of a justification to follow Lelouch nor did she have much of a reason to hate her mom so much. She's too close-minded. Supposedly she fights for her brother but I think she's half-lost that motive now. But generally, yeah she's ok. Her scene with Ohgi last ep really gave me hope in her again.

You just give Nina too hard a time. The only thing she's a bitch for is being a frightened racists against the Japanese. Everything else isn't that bad. She definitely should've thought things through before almost blowing up her friends, but she's a typical overemotional high schooler. That can be forgiven... I guess xD

Well she is pretty wet for Zero... So in a way she's got her own reasons for following Lelouch.

Besides no offense but I'd rather take Kallen over Shirley since not only is Shirley a nuisance to Lelouch but her entire character is based around the student council setting her up on dates with Lelouch and really that's all she cares about. Shirley is possibly the most simplistic character in the series at least compared to Kallen.

But compared to both Kallen and Shirley; Nina has done far worse things. Being a crazy psycho racist for one, being a table rapist for another, failing at breaking and entering into euphie's place, trying to blow up the school because her lover euphie died ZOMG!!111 I mean shit at least Suzaku's got a bit of a head on his shoulders. Nina just needs to die a horrible death.

Souten Kishun
05-02-2008, 02:28 AM
Well she is pretty wet for Zero... So in a way she's got her own reasons for following Lelouch.

Besides no offense but I'd rather take Kallen over Shirley since not only is Shirley a nuisance to Lelouch but her entire character is based around the student council setting her up on dates with Lelouch and really that's all she cares about. Shirley is possibly the most simplistic character in the series at least compared to Kallen.

But compared to both Kallen and Shirley; Nina has done far worse things. Being a crazy psycho racist for one, being a table rapist for another, failing at breaking and entering into euphie's place, trying to blow up the school because her lover euphie died ZOMG!!111 I mean shit at least Suzaku's got a bit of a head on his shoulders. Nina just needs to die a horrible death.

Yeah, Shirley is simplistic... and that's why I luv her :3 Whether she is a nuisance to Lelouch or not doesn't matter to me. Everyone is basically an annoyance to him anyway :sag Besides, people who screw him up make the story more interesting. She also thinks thing through, tends to be more caring, and isn't impulsive like Kallen.

But enough about Shirley :zaru

Your list of Nina faults is good ...but table rape does not count as a crime :yell At least we see eye to eye with the other stuff. And even though I tend to agree with the negatives of Kallen more, I can see the support for her just as clearly.

Fleecy~ duly noted, but hate is still such a strong word to associate with a character who is so nobly good (as Nunnally is). Rumors be damned, anyone who feels hatred toward Nunnally at this point is crazy.

Of course I even think it's pretty crazy to feel hatred toward Nina. Only mature racists and people who kill the weak for fun -Britannians like the Emperor and the Black King- really deserve an association of hatred. Extreme annoyance is the more accurate word for Nina.

Amatsu
05-02-2008, 04:57 AM
Yeah, Shirley is simplistic... and that's why I luv her :3 Whether she is a nuisance to Lelouch or not doesn't matter to me. Everyone is basically an annoyance to him anyway :sag Besides, people who screw him up make the story more interesting. She also thinks thing through, tends to be more caring, and isn't impulsive like Kallen.

But enough about Shirley :zaru

Your list of Nina faults is good ...but table rape does not count as a crime :yell At least we see eye to eye with the other stuff. And even though I tend to agree with the negatives of Kallen more, I can see the support for her just as clearly.

Fleecy~ duly noted, but hate is still such a strong word to associate with a character who is so nobly good (as Nunnally is). Rumors be damned, anyone who feels hatred toward Nunnally at this point is crazy.

Of course I even think it's pretty crazy to feel hatred toward Nina. Only mature racists and people who kill the weak for fun -Britannians like the Emperor and the Black King- really deserve an association of hatred. Extreme annoyance is the more accurate word for Nina.

Well considering that I've never seen any other anime character outside of a hentai rape a table (heck I don't think I've even seen that IN hentai) I think it truly is a crime!

Immortal Kage
05-02-2008, 06:39 PM
If Suzaku was more like Uncle Rukus(sp?) of Boondocks I'd like him.:LOS

Since he isn't, he can burn in hell.:mad

Ritzbitz8
05-02-2008, 07:19 PM
I picked Nina. I still have faith Suzaku will redeem himself in the end...

How could Nina possibly make up for her season of epic failure??

KallenIsSexy
06-26-2008, 10:06 PM
and the award for douchebag of the series goes to.........


Suzaku

Rukia
06-26-2008, 10:13 PM
and the award for douchebag of the series goes to.........


SuzakuGreat screen name.

Has Suzaku become more hated? I thought Nina was winning this battle for a while. He has easily passed her though.

Blue_Mercy
06-26-2008, 10:30 PM
Have to be an important character to get my hate, Suzaku all the way.

Kira Yamato
06-26-2008, 10:35 PM
Great screen name.

Has Suzaku become more hated? I thought Nina was winning this battle for a while. He has easily passed her though.

Nina should still be in the lead. She's hated by everyone including the table

BlackSmoke
06-26-2008, 10:46 PM
Nina, because rational feelings drive Suzaku, Nina is just a fuckin loser.

Ssj3_Goku
06-26-2008, 10:49 PM
*To Nina*

http://xs228.xs.to/xs228/08264/where_is_your_god_now948.jpg

enigma6
06-26-2008, 11:10 PM
poor table didn't stand a chance, the government so is cruel to them, not even the table deserved her fail

IchiTenshou
06-26-2008, 11:16 PM
Suzaku just need to die already >_< and Nina too
both shi-ne :yell

aliklik
06-27-2008, 01:11 AM
nina is a great character she's represents a very important brittanian archetype

that said though I CANT STAND HER

atleast Suzaku is bearable, plus he contributes to cool fights.

all nina does is make bombs that dont go off

Blaze of Glory
06-27-2008, 01:29 AM
Suzaku, never have I ever seen a more blinded oxymoron than him in any anime. Nina is all talk and the sort of idiot you see hanging out at your local library.

Jaded Heart
06-27-2008, 02:45 AM
Between Suzaku and Nina, definitely Nina. :pek

Teleq
06-27-2008, 07:17 PM
Hate Suzaku the most, then Rivalz, then Nina.

Aerik
06-27-2008, 07:54 PM
nina

I hate her because of her insanity and design

Sazuku on the other hand isnt my favorite character but I dont mind seeing him, especially in R2 since I just love the Knights of round

Lock Ree
06-27-2008, 11:18 PM
Definitely Nina.

Nae'blis
06-27-2008, 11:26 PM
I think I've been hating Suzaku for so long that it is blinding me to how much I actually really loathe Nina. I'd say nearly equal, Suzaku being a bit more because of his attitude of late.

Fleecy
06-28-2008, 09:17 PM
Oh my God they're TIED! :argh I thought Suzaku was at least fifteen votes ahead!

PradaBrada
06-28-2008, 09:20 PM
Broke the tie :beardthing

Sawako
06-28-2008, 09:22 PM
Oops, I tied it. :lmao

PradaBrada
06-28-2008, 09:24 PM
:C........ :beardthing

Bradbot
06-28-2008, 09:47 PM
Nina....:zaru

Blaze of Glory
06-28-2008, 09:53 PM
Suzaku is the biggest stupidest little bitch ever

I hate him more than any other anime character

But I hate Nina too ..her love for Euphie is scary.. and disturbing ... :iik

mary no jutsu
06-29-2008, 12:10 AM
Eupie sure did have a great way of attracting the most "interesting" people around her.

I vote nina.

son_michael
06-29-2008, 10:51 AM
Suzaku


and so once again the tie is broken:LOS

Rurushu
06-29-2008, 11:18 AM
Heh..Suzaku has 69 votes.
Nina has 67 votes

I wonder if the creator of the series really aimed for these two characters to be the most hated.