In comparison to S1, will S2 be a failure?

[Sasuke X]

Graham Acre posting about 'dropping' the series after reading an episode 5 spoiler is what made me want to create this thread. It's rather worrying; a fan 'dropping' a series simply after reading information about the plot.

I had a bad feeling about S2 going into it because S1 was almost too good; too perfect. It started the story in the best possible way, got us attached to the characters and ended on the cliffhanger of all cliffhangers. Yet, despite all this, the show had only progressed to the stage where questions had been raised; the mysteries all remained unanswered. With so much ground still to cover and expectations sky high, I always had the feeling S2 would end up being the biggest disappointment in existence.

The first 2 episodes were mostly excellent, yes. However, when both episodes were based on the excellent opening episodes of S1, being as close to repeats as episodes can be without actually being repeats, it's impossible to judge the quality of S2 based on those episodes.

I'm sure most of you have seen my posts in the old CG thread about the possible return of Ashford Academy, which I have named filler school. My reasons for not wanting to see Lelouch going back to Ashford are pretty obvious: Unlike in S1, he has no reason to do so with his cover blown and Nunnally gone... It would be pure stupidity for him to go back there. I DID like the school sections of S1, they blended well with the serious side, but it would piss me off greatly if Sunrise fail to take Code Geass forward, instead deciding to retread old ground and make Lelouch look retarded.

Sadly, it seems certain Lelouch will be made to go back for filler lessons due to Sunrise seemingly lacking in originality and finding themselves only able to repeat what happened in S1. After seeing EP1-2 of S2 repeat what happened in EP1-2 of S1, it's hard to believe Sunrise would miss out on the chance of going over old ground once again and remove Ashford.

Something Graham touched on made me even more concerned about the situation: Gundam SEED Destiny. I watched GS a long time ago, ending up getting bored towards the end and not bothering with the disliked sequel. Graham mentioned that Destiny repeated what happened in the original series and added new characters - Very similar sounding to what seems likely to happen with S2 of Code Geass. Could this be a case of lightning striking twice?

Anyway, enough typing: It's time to vote.

[Fleecy]

People crave too much. It's not good to keep expectations that high; even though S1 was good it doesn't mean S2 will have to be better--it only needs to stay true to its original purpose by tying everything together (or take the other route and leave the end ambiguous).

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Hmm, I don't think I'm expecting too much, actually. I'm naturally cautious of sequels and second seasons :P . I also don't really see much of a point of the return of the school episodes (though my guess is that they return because they're the main source of comic relief, or because that if there's no school episodes, then what's the point of the student council characters? They'd at worst have to leave'em out entirely) and hope there's fewer of those compared to last season, but it doesn't make me think about giving up the series. Perhaps Code Geass r2 won't be the masterpiece that the first was, but I still have high hopes for it to at least turn out decently. In any event, this early in the series, it's far too early to pass judgement on the series IMO - and as far as episode 5 goes: I'll wait to see it for myself before saying that it's "terribly horrible" based on a spoiler.. :laugh

[Zarigani]

No, season 2 is already better. Season 2 will be the reason why Code Geass will surpass Death Note.

[Sasuke X]

No, season 2 is already better. Season 2 will be the reason why Code Geass will surpass Death Note.

If I didn't think you are Geasstarded, I'd ask you to explain how you work that one out when we've only seen semi-repeat episodes thus far.

[xpto]

R1 was excellent, R2's good so far. I say Graham was just paranoic. Either that or i just have low standards.

[IchiTenshou]

R2 is just started
so I dont know which onw is better yet
but R2 is on the way to pass S1 ^^

[Zarigani]

If I didn't think you are Geasstarded, I'd ask you to explain how you work that one out when we've only seen semi-repeat episodes thus far.

It have revealed a couple of things and the next episodes will prove to be amazing. Rollos Geass, the Emperors room etc. Lots of new characters.

It's more of everything. Thus, season 2 is better than season 1.

[Felix]

R1 was excellent, R2's good so far. I say Graham was just paranoic. Either that or i just have low standards.

Not even 3 episodes have aired and he is already saying the world is going to end.
Seriously, even if you scream "OMG FILLER SCHOOL", major stuff is happening there, how come you guys are against those episodes?
I wished Light had more school episodes back there in Death Note

[Marsala]

Code Geass is and has always been a very silly show. It is meant for entertainment. Things are not going to make sense. Lelouch will probably remain at Ashford for at least half of R2 and possibly all the way up to the last few episodes. At that point, Japan will be liberated and there will be a final confrontation at the Sword of Akasha that is all headtrippy like the ends of Evangelion, Escaflowne, Eureka 7, etc. Oh, and there will be some completely cracktastic plot twist like Nunnally becoming the final villain.

[ezxx]

oh shi- Marsala with a new avatar

I think it's too soon to start thinking it will be a failure, but I will say it definitely does not have the same appeal as the first season.

[Sunuvmann]

Spoiler tag, what is said spoiler?

[Sasuke X]

I don't believe it's too much to expect the story to go forward in S2. If you don't expect progress, what's the point of watching the series?

The Ashford parts had a place in S1, but Ashford has no place at the point in the story where we're at. We'd be going backwards instead of going forwards.

Code Geass always has been a very silly show.

Silly how? I could point you in the direction of "silly" shows with badly written, predictable stories, poor characterization and bad pacing. I'd expect only someone who isn't familiar to anime to describe CG as silly when there truly are some silly shows out there.

If you want a silly show, look no further than TTGL. You generally only find people who can't string a sentence together raving over it.

Spoiler tag, what is said spoiler?

This is only a guess based on what 2 people said, so no tags.

Graham mentioned that he, like me, hated filler school returning when revealing that's he's dropping the show due to EP5 spoilers. ~Shin~ then commented on his spoiler tagged comment, saying he hoped the part about Lelouch and Suzaku wasn't true.

I might be adding 2+2 and getting 5 here, but I'm guessing it means Lelouch and Suzaku will somehow end up back at filler school together during EP5.

[Vic Vinegar]

ill still watch it regardless of what anyone thinks or spoilers

[Sasuke X]

ill still watch it regardless of what anyone thinks or spoilers

I'm glad you think that way.

Rollo dies in EP6, btw.

[Fleecy]

Just a question, Sasuke X, where exactly are you getting your "spoilers" from?

[Graham Aker]

Sauce:
episode 5 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1540463&postcount=6547)

[Wesley]

Sauce:
episode 5 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1540463&postcount=6547)

I see why you'd want to quit. It sounds like the status quo was reinstated, and you'll have to go through all the same drama from last season all over again when the shit hits the fan, only there'd probably, maybe, be a different result this time.

[Fleecy]

What the hell? I'd want to watch it more after the spoiler! The tension can be cut with a knife if that's what happens in episode five, and it is different from season one because Lelouch and Suzaku weren't (knowingly) enemies back then.

[Wesley]

What the hell? I'd want to watch it more after the spoiler! The tension can be cut with a knife if that's what happens in episode five, and it is different from season one because Lelouch and Suzaku weren't (knowingly) enemies back then.

I imagine it'll be more like "So...how's it going?" "Good...you?" "Me too." "Good. Good." "Yeah." *Leery eyes and they walk away from eachother*

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

I imagine it'll be more like "So...how's it going?" "Good...you?" "Me too." "Good. Good." "Yeah." *Leery eyes and they walk away from eachother*

At worst, yes.. :sweatdrop . At best, we'd have them threathening each other, knife at each other's throat and all that shit :nod . It's a bit strange for the status quo to be in effect at this stage IMO, as they're clearly enemies and aware of it this time, but...

[Shiraishi]

The first two episodes of R2 > Season 1

The first 7 episodes of Geass weren't that amazing, honestly.

[Saruto]

Yo, seriously you guys have way too high expectations. This isn't an Oscar-winning movie by some indie film director that makes you question your humanity and the world around you. It's a freakin animu. It's about 3 rungs above porn. Good entertainment with some nice plot. I'm liking R2 a lot so far, the pace is way faster. Episode 3 of R1 didn't have random main characters getting a Geass until Mao and that was what, episode like 10? Filler school is needed or else we'd only see one side of Lelouch's persona.

[Rokudaime]

They probably going to faking among each other in front of the public...

Seriously, why so much hate of Ashford? :P

Maybe you are right..I dont see what is the reason that Lulu should go back to school since his sister is not longer there but then, he probably want to take some break in his life after dealing with those mind-game and war things, although it might bit stupid since Ashford now is sort of Emperor prison for Lulu? :nuts

and Lulu persona kinda fun to watch as well...

About the Gundam Seed and Destiny, they actually recycled the whole idea?:amazed

[Saruto]

They probably going to fake among each other in front of the public...

Seriously, why so much hate of Ashford? :P

Maybe you are right..I dont see what is the reason that Lulu should go back to school since his sister is not longer there but then, he probably want to take some break in his life after dealing with those mind-game and war things, although it might bit stupid since Ashford now is sort of Emperor prison for Lulu? :nuts

About the Gundam Seed and Destiny, they actually recycled the whole idea?:amazed

You can't really compare Gundam Seed Destiny to anything.....GSD was bad. Really, really bad.

[~Shin~]

What the hell? I'd want to watch it more after the spoiler! The tension can be cut with a knife if that's what happens in episode five, and it is different from season one because Lelouch and Suzaku weren't (knowingly) enemies back then.

The thing is that it doesn't serve any damn purpose. It's just another attempt by Sunrise to please its fans through more fanservicy crap.

I mean let's face it, the whole school life thing is almost unnecessary this season. They had enough of that in the 1st season to set up the whole situation. The 2nd season should only concentrate on how Lelouch and the Black Knights will thwart the Britannians. We really don't need more of the high school crap since we get that in just about every other anime.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

Seriously, why so much hate of Ashford? :P

I personally neither hate nor love the Ashford episodes, thank you very much :P . But back in season 1, Ashford served more of a point you might say - it was in a sense a place where Lelouch could hide his true face, where he lived only for the purpose of taking care of his sister, and where the characters could interact with each others as long as they didn't know who they were (if you know what I mean), and where we could see some comedy inserted now and then...

But now in season 2, the circumstances are entirely different; the ashford academy is, as Lelouch says, little more than a birdcage made for him, his sister is gone, Lelouch, Suzaku, Kallen and CC knows who the others are, sorta (especially Lelouch and Suzaku knows that they're each other's enemies), and the other familiar faces have gotten some brainwashing and forgotten a whole deal of stuff (and I hope by damn that it doesn't mean that we'll have to go through the same stuff as in the first season). So all in all: I can't see how Ashford serves any greater purpose in this season and putting both Lelouch and Suzaku in it under a sort of status quo seems just.. stupid at this stage... :(

[Wesley]

Just wait until the circle reasoning begins.

"Does he know that I know that he knows that I know that he knows that I know he knows that I know that he knows that I know..."

[Corran]

Graham Arce is just being a big baby.

I haven't read the spoilers but I have always felt like Ashford is needed for another point of view and for Lulu to keep some of his personality because if he was Zero 24/7 then he might lose who he is and what he is fighting to change.

[Wesley]

Graham Arce is just being a big baby.

I haven't read the spoilers but I have always felt like Ashford is needed for another point of view and for Lulu to keep some of his personality because if he was Zero 24/7 then he might lose who he is and what he is fighting to change.

Would that be so terrible? He barely retains a protagonist's mantle as it is. I say cast off the shackles and be the douche everyone knows him to be! The sooner it happens, the sooner the killing fields can begin and everyone can get what's coming to them.

[Corran]

It wouldn't be bad. But it just isn't going to happen. From what I can tell by signs in the opening and other parts of the show, the roles are going to reverse between Suzaku and Lelouch. In the op Lelouch rides the white horse and plays as the white chess pieces this time instead of the black horse and black chess pieces in season 1.
So its gonna be interesting to see where this season leads both characters.

[Wesley]

So its gonna be interesting to see where this season leads both characters.

Horrible and painful deaths! :mad

And the only meaning as far as chess is concerned with who's black and who's white is who gets to move first.

[Graham Aker]

So its gonna be interesting to see where this season leads both characters.
College :facepalm

[Shiraishi]

Why drop a series over a small spoiler?

That's so sad.

In a series where the little naive princess can go on a massacre with a machine gun, nothing is fucking safe. I honestly don't get it, but whatever. Spoilers of the first episodes said that Lelouch would have memory loss for a lot longer than 1 episode. Also said we wouldn't learn about Rollo for a while.

We found those two things basically in two episodes.

[Saiko]

The People who complain about Ashford are the people who complained about the memory loss of Lolouch and now look how amazing it turned out.

[Shiraishi]

The memory loss wasn't amazing or anything, but it served it's plot.

It lasted one episode.

[Saiko]

The memory loss wasn't amazing or anything, but it served it's plot.

It lasted one episode.

I meant the people who complained that Season 2 will be Mega Fail just because Lolouch has lost his Memories.

They are jumping to Conclusions too fast. Maybe Ashford will be amazing.

My Opinion is that they should have Faith in Sunrise and not abandon a series just because of a spoiler.

[Sasuke X]

So, we're all agreed that S2 will be a failure?

/meant to add a poll

I vote for fail - My reasons are in the first post.

[Saruto]

So, we're all agreed that S2 will be a failure?

/meant to add a poll

I vote for fail - My reasons are in the first post.

Your reasons don't make any sense. You say filler school is what's going to kill it yet we don't even know how long they'll stay focused on filler school. All we have is a spoiler that IS NOT EVEN ACCURATE. All those episode spoilers have basically told us like .0001% of the content of that episode. R2 is freaking exciting with all the new developments like Rollo having a Geass, the fact that numerous people now know that Lelouch = Zero, who the fuck Rollo really is, the Sword of Akasha, etc. These TWO episodes have given me more to look forward to than the entire first 10 episodes of season 1. What exactly will make this episode NOT fail? The entire plot being revealed int he first 5 episodes? Ashford being nuked by Nina? Your not giving the show enough of a chance when it's CLEARLY better than the first episodes of S1.

[Sasuke X]

The Sword of Akasha is obviously a badly named place that has the ability to kill "Gods", meaning C.C. and V.V.

I guessed Rollo had a geass prior to EP2. It wasn't shocking; I expected the person placed closest to Zero to be given the same power as him in case things turned ugly.

Your not giving the show enough of a chance when it's CLEARLY better than the first episodes of S1.

Being in HD aside, clearly better in what way? Repeats do not have a chance of bettering the original versions when they're so similar; the shock factor is taken away.

[Poison Ivy]

The first two episodes of R2 > Season 1

The first 7 episodes of Geass weren't that amazing, honestly.

The first ever episode is one of my favorites :hehee


But yeh I agree, the first 2 of s2 are a much higher quality and it will get better :WOW

[Saruto]

The Sword of Akasha is obviously a badly named place that has the ability to kill "Gods", meaning C.C. and V.V.

I guessed Rollo had a geass prior to EP2. It wasn't shocking; I expected the person placed closest to Zero to be given the same power as him in case things turned ugly.



Being in HD aside, clearly better in what way? Repeats do not have a chance of bettering the original versions when they're so similar; the shock factor is taken away.

That doesn't mean that R2 will be a failure. The "repeats" were needed to bring in people who haven't really seen season 1 or forgot what happened at the end of season 1. With Rollo having a Geass and his loyalty in question, the involvement of the Chinese Federation and possible EEU involvement there's a ton of directions that R2 could go in. It's simply too early to judge it a "failure" just because of filler school...

[Sasuke X]

You seemingly 'forgot' to answer my question about the statement you made in the post before last.

[Felix]

Code Geass S1 Ep 1-8 weren't that great.
Code Geass S2 Ep 1-2 have been great so far, action packed and fast moving.

Where is the fail? Because I'm not quite grasping it

[Saruto]

You seemingly 'forgot' to answer my question about the statement you made in the post before last.


Being in HD aside, clearly better in what way?

That part? Refer to:

With Rollo having a Geass and his loyalty in question, the involvement of the Chinese Federation and possible EEU involvement there's a ton of directions that R2 could go in.

R2 is freaking exciting with all the new developments like Rollo having a Geass, the fact that numerous people now know that Lelouch = Zero, who the fuck Rollo really is, the Sword of Akasha, etc.

Those are just off the top of my head. You can speculate about what all that means for the future of R2 but we don't know exactly how it'll all turn out. Raising questions and making people look forward to see the new developments = not fail.

[Sasuke X]

With Rollo having a Geass and his loyalty in question

As I said, I guessed before EP2 aired about him having a geass. It was hardly shocking when it's fairly obvious the Emperor planted Rollo with him and he has V.V. either commanding or working for him.

The issue loyalty issue will be predictable - Lelouch needs ace pilots to fight against all his new enemies and Rollo just happens to be an ace pilot. He will join Lelouch.

the involvement of the Chinese Federation and possible EEU involvement there's a ton of directions that R2 could go in.

The Chinese featured in S1; they aren't a new addition.

It was obvious the other 2 superpowers in the CG universe would get involved in the conflict when the plot advanced to a certain stage.

Instead of focusing on the worldwide war side of things fully, S2 seems set to restrict the story with filler school rubbish for the most part.

the fact that numerous people now know that Lelouch = Zero

How exactly is that a S2 development when people knew at the end of S1?

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The point is, none of the 'developments' in the first 2 episodes were amazing. The only truly amazing parts of the story were repeats - Lelouch's revival and Lelouch's chess style commanding, taken directly from EP2 of the original series.

[Wesley]

I guess people just don't like the fact that Lulu's been given all the time in the world he needs. If I understand correctly that is...

[Saruto]

As I said, I guessed before EP2 aired about him having a geass. It was hardly shocking when it's fairly obvious the Emperor planted Rollo with him and he has V.V. either commanding or working for him.

The issue loyalty issue will be predictable - Lelouch needs ace pilots to fight against all his new enemies and Rollo just happens to be an ace pilot. He will join Lelouch.



The Chinese featured in S1; they aren't a new addition.

It was obvious the other 2 superpowers in the CG universe would get involved in the conflict when the plot advanced to a certain stage.

Instead of focusing on the worldwide war side of things fully, S2 seems set to restrict the story with filler school rubbish for the most part.



How exactly is that a S2 development when people knew at the end of S1?

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The point is, none of the 'developments' in the first 2 episodes were amazing. The only truly amazing parts of the story were repeats - Lelouch's revival and Lelouch's chess style commanding, taken directly from EP2 of the original series.

All that stuff you said hasn't been developed yet. It's "new" as in we haven't seen how this is going to affect the plot of R2. And the Chinese Federation has a much bigger role this season. They were in what 1 or 2 episodes in season 1? Now we have character's from there interacting directly with Lelouch. Anyway, it doesn't seem like anything I say will convince you so I don't see the point of continually trying to prove that R2 > season 1 so far. I'm just going to end up repeating myself since we've only had TWO episodes. There's only so much that we know that I can use. You're entitled to your opinion but I think you're making a mistake judging the series "fail" from what you've seen from the first couple episodes, when there's so much stuff we haven't even been showed yet. It's just too early man.

[Amatsu]

I think season 2 will be a success. I think too many people are worried about all the school episodes. Personally I don't know why. I wouldn't want every episode to be one mecha fight after another. That would be about as boring as any gundam series.

[Fleecy]

Personally, I dislike mecha so... I hope there won't be more of it than in season one. I welcome the school episodes; it brings more humor/lightheartedness and gives a breather to the gloomy theme.

[Amatsu]

I'll be happy as long as Suzaku dies this season.

[Wesley]

They could drop the mecha and "ace pilot" themes altogether and have a real war for a change...but of course that'd make too much sense and be far to ambitious a project.

[Corran]

They tried that, they had a couple of atomic bombs dropped on them for their trouble.....

[~Shin~]

They could drop the mecha and "ace pilot" themes altogether and have a real war for a change...but of course that'd make too much sense and be far to ambitious a project.

There is no "ace pilot" themes in CG. -_-

[Fleecy]

There is no "ace pilot" themes in CG. -_-

Zino's (Zino? Geno? What?) an ace pilot, but he's an exception because he's cool. :LOS

[Wesley]

There is no "ace pilot" themes in CG. -_-

If there's fewer than two dozen mecha pilots to a side, everyone is an ace pilot.

[uchiha-alia]

well tbh when i saw the spoilers up to episode 5 i was very dissapointed. The first 2 CG:R2 episodes were great, and were just to get us back into pace right? well it doesnt seem from the spoilers that things are going to pick up like i anticapated. Maybe im just expecting too much coming off an amazing first season but i expect a toally different formula, and rushing us straight into the action. I wouldnt stop watching the series as it seems graham has but I'll just be dissapointed. Hopfully things will pick up in pace, and its not just a case of more characters + same formula= season 2.

Still, im looking forward to this season as it has great potential, and the inclusion of the chinese repubic and the brittanian conquest really promise awesome things to come.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

So, episode 3 is out. Now, unlike (probably) most other peopel here, I haven't seen the raw. But for those hwo have seen it: since episode 3 was a "school filler" episode, has it after you've seen it dimished your faith in Code Geass?

[kayos90]

EPISODE 3 IS NOT A FILLER, jesus... and if people are still saying that R2 will be a total copy of season 1 like Gundam Seed Destiny then they're total idiots. Some parts are the same, yes, however it's completely different as it's proven in this episode. Plus the development with Rolo's geass and Suzaku will definitely make a plot turn. The chinese and EU were always there and mentioned in season 1, it's just now made an important role in R2. Personally I think season 2 will be good because it's got a crap load of explaining to do for us. We still don't know much about marianne, where nunally is, and anything else. There will be a lot of little revelations here and there. and for the last time, IT'S NOT A COPY

[IchiTenshou]

^^ R2 is going into the major point so I think R2 is better
the first 3 ep were epic :nod

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

EPISODE 3 IS NOT A FILLER, jesus...

Didn't say it was; my use of "filler" is directed at those who called it that before it was aired :P

Personally I think season 2 will be good because it's got a crap load of explaining to do for us. We still don't know much about marianne, where nunally is, and anything else. There will be a lot of little revelations here and there. and for the last time, IT'S NOT A COPY

That's the spirit! :grin

^^ R2 is going into the major point so I think R2 is better the first 3 ep were epic

It's certainly shaping up nicely :nod. Althrough I do think it's in a sense sort of annoying that everything at the school has been reset, sorta.. <_<. Still, Lelouch's going to have lots of fun fooling his would-be jailers for the next few episodes :grin

[Sasuke X]

So, episode 3 is out. Now, unlike (probably) most other peopel here, I haven't seen the raw. But for those hwo have seen it: since episode 3 was a "school filler" episode, has it after you've seen it dimished your faith in Code Geass?

My episode thoughts: http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=15571830&postcount=19

Simply put, I'm more certain now that S2 will be the biggest anime disappoint I've ever experienced.

Also, although not exactly a repeat, EP3 *did* still retread old ground and EP3 of both series are similar. EP4 also looks like it's going to be similar to EP4 of S1.

[Zaru]

I'm not even putting my hopes up - S2 won't be the biggest epic thing ever, but I'll just watch a decent, enjoyable anime which I can eat my muesli to.

For ME, it won't fail.

[Felix]

People are idiots for 2 reasons:
For thinking it will be the biggest disapointment ever
For thinking it will be the second coming of Christ

I loved Ep 3 by the way. Death Note vibe...

[~Shin~]

I never considered S1 to be a masterpiece to begin with so there's not much disappointment from me.

IMO, CG has been the same CG to me. A good show with its fair share of flaws.

Only way I would be hugely disappointed and drop this show would be is if Sunrise decided to gay it up with yaoi or if Suzaku got with Kallen.

[Auron]

People are idiots for 2 reasons:
For thinking it will be the biggest disapointment ever
For thinking it will be the second coming of Christ

I loved Ep 3 by the way. Death Note vibe...

I felt the same...I really liked ep3 cause it gave off that early Death Note vibe. Lelouch comes up with a sweet plan and only loses at the end cause of Rolo's hax geass. Sweet episode overall imo

[Wesley]

Only way I would be hugely disappointed and drop this show would be is if Sunrise decided to gay it up with yaoi

I'd actually watch it then. XD

[Zaru]

I'd actually watch it then. XD

Well there's always fanart

Lots of it :arg

[Sasuke X]

I thought the first series was epic. The odd episode aside, I loved every minute of it. It's in my top 5, along with the only other series comparable to CG; Death Note.

After months of waiting and anticipating, S2 just hasn't lived up to it so far. Instead of taking the show forward Sunrise are seemingly happy to go backwards, recycling what happened in S1 and adding some new twists. It pisses me off when S2 could've been so much more than a decent repeat performance.

And, before someone jumps in, I'm going to finish the series no matter what - I want to see how it ends. Even if it does continue to disappoint, I'm sure it will have its moments.

[dspr8_rugged]

I've only seen the first episode so it's too early to say if Season 2 fails in comparison with Season 1. Give me five and I'll think about it.

Sequels make or break the original. IMO, I'd rather not see the latter case happen to this series.

[Wesley]

Well there's always fanart

Lots of it :arg

It's just not the same. :(

I want canon faggotry, not implied canon faggotry dammit! :yell

[FreeFocus]

I don't think so, I'm still watching it faithfully every week, lol. Even if you're getting a little deja vu this season, that's not necessarily bad, and that will most likely change within the next 2-3 episodes at most.

[~Shin~]

I thought you were homophobic, Wesley? :apathy

I thought the first series was epic. The odd episode aside, I loved every minute of it. It's in my top 5, along with the only other series comparable to CG; Death Note.

Geass isn't even in my top 10 so I'm probably not feeling the same way about this as you are.

So far it's been the same as S1 to me.

[Sasuke X]

Sequels make or break the original. IMO

Yup, my other concern is that S2 will tarnish the memories of one of my favourite series. If S2 does fail badly, I'll be reminded of what happened in S2 whenever I re-watch S1...more so than with most other sequels due to how S2 is seemingly going to be a replay of S1.

[Wesley]

I thought you were homophobic, Wesley? :apathy

I hate yuri. Yaoi makes me laugh. :laugh

[Wu Fei]

I REALLY don't get the people who are shitting on S2 already!

I know to each his own.

I only remember the S1 ending perfectly. I hardly remember S1 on an episode by episode basis. So I can't go saying how each ep in S2 parallels S1 therefore making it crap. If u can do that, its ur fault dumbass.

I'm loving it so far. Ep 1 basically let us know where we at and how things are. 2 showed what the fuck happend (omg) and that its to get back on the ball. Ep 3, more looking into the characters and their relationships with little games used to move things along. Answered a question and raised more questions, got us wondering whats really going on.

Its early on. Its doing things right. Its making me want to see some more shit cuz of fucking great cliffhangers like always.

I have faith in the people behind CG. I know only good stuff is coming in the future. If u go watch everysingle season 1 episode and examine it and all to the point that u find so many parrallels and similarities that u lose enjoyment, thats all on you buddy. But things seem very different to me. And its good.

[Sasuke X]

...or you could just have re-watched S1 in preparation for S2 a few days before it started, not expecting S2 to be a repeat performance. Even if you have a memory like mine, you're still likely to see the similarities very clearly.

[Wu Fei]

yea i only watched the finale in prep for S2. I had a jist wat happend thru out the season already.

Still. Either ur greater than others for seeing the similarities. Or ur worst off lol.

I say S2 will be a success.

[Lelouch71]

It really is a shame that some people are bitching about S2 already when it just begun. So far S2 been living up to my expectations and with each episode I'm craving more. This is a little naive, but I have faith that the CG crew will do a good job with the second season. I don't think or at least hope they don't screw up like the people with GSD. Though I'm sure some people will be disappointed since you can't satisfy everyone.

[superman_1]

i dont think S2 will be a failure..... the first season was amazing and left stuff to be uncovered.... S2 will just build up on it and we will get to see more stuff in there.... hopefully it should be good and interesting... already liking the episodes so far... just hope they get better and better...

[Detonator_Fan]

No.
Reason: Anya.

[Rurushu]

R1 was really excellent,R2 so far is really good,but not as good as season 1,but who knows we have 20 more episodes left.

[Auron]

yea i only watched the finale in prep for S2. I had a jist wat happend thru out the season already.

Still. Either ur greater than others for seeing the similarities. Or ur worst off lol.

I say S2 will be a success.

There have definetly been similarities between the two seasons...I spotted them easily and I haven't rewatched season 1 in months. I do have a better memory than most but still. I've still enjoyed S2 a lot tho. I don't think the similarities are crucial enough to affect the quality of the series but we'll see what happens in the next few episodes.

[Sasuke X]

Just quoting something I posted in another thread: It's more appropriate here. I'll leave the doom and gloom until EP5.

Episode 1, S1: Lelouch goes for a bike ride with Rivalz. Rivalz takes him to play chess against a noble, Lelouch winning. Lelouch gets caught up with terrorists, ending up witnessing a massacre. C.C., who Lelouch had rescued, is shot in the head by the Britannia solders who massacred the people in the room. Just when Lelouch is about to get killed, C.C. revived and gave Lelouch a geass. Lelouch used his geass to make the soldiers slaughter each other.

Episode 1, S2: Lelouch goes for a bike ride with his brother, Rollo. Rollo takes him to play against a famous chess player, who just so happens to be a member of the mafia. Lelouch wins and things turn ugly. Just then, terrorists attack and everyone panics. Lelouch gets separated from Rollo, ending up in a room where there's been some kind of massacre. C.C. appears, before being shot through the heart by Britannia soldiers. Just when Lelouch is about to be killed, C.C. revives and helps him remember his true identity; Zero. Lelouch regains his geass and uses it to make the soldiers kill themselves.

Episode 2, S1: A Britannia solder enters the hanger where the massacre took place in a Knightmare. Lelouch uses his geass on her, commanding her to give him her Knightmare. Once outside, Lelouch helps the terrorists he bumped into earlier defend against Britannia, commanding them like chess pieces. Suzaku, piloting a new super Knightmare, appeared when things were going too well, destroying most of the terrorists. Once the chance appeared, Lelouch used his geass to reach Clovis, a member of Britannia royalty and his brother, making him call off the attack on the terrorists. Lelouch kills Clovis.

Episode 2, S2: A Britannia soldier in a Knightmare appears just after Lelouch made the solders kill themselves. Lelouch used his geass to get the soldier to give him his Knightmare. Lelouch then starts commanding the terrorists, now working for him, like chess pieces, fighting off the Britannian attack. Rollo, piloting a new super Knightmare, appeared when things were going too well, taking out most of the terrorists. Before Lelouch is killed, his plan is carried out and, not only did it allow him to escape, it killed a member of the Britannian royalty.

I'd do EP3, but I can't remember EP3 of S1 well enough. Just like EP3 of S2, it seems it wasn't very memorable.

Going on the preview and situation Lelouch finds himself in, only having a small force, I'd bet money on EP4 of S2 being a near identical repeat of EP4 of S1.

[Mr. Stud Muffin]

Sasuke X, I can see why u are wondering wether S2 will exceed expectations or even match them...

the first two episodes have been near repeats, the prisoners being held in R2 is similar to Suzaku being held captive in S1 and as u mentioned, GSD was nearly a repeat of GS.

Honestly, I am going to wait till Episode 8-10 to make a judgement. But yes, the first 2 episodes are indeed cause for concern. If R2 had been THE first season, people would have been very impressed, not that others aren't impressed. But people like u and me tend to be more reasonable since we are fans but not Geasstards. The repeat of episodes and the general direction is, like I said before, cause for concern.