I like it how CG watchers won't let characters live anything down.

[Mider T]

Orange's single failure, the Nina/Table-kun affair, Euphimator, Suzufag's betrayal of Lelouch, Shirley's breakdown, or even Kallen's sexual tension. Any time a character in Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R1 or R2 has a moment of weakness and slips up in the slightest, fans are quick to jump on their case. I wouldn't be surprised if Barack Obama compared it to his comments about Pennslyvania (for you Americans). I mean, sure it's a natural occurance in any anime, but this is taking it to the limits. It's happening faster than the Mayuri haters and stronger than the Narutards/Sasuke bashers.

So please, let our characters gain back their dignity. Pride should be a trade for Britannians and JapaneseElevens.

[Corran]

There are reasons for some of these though.

The Nina thing has never happened on a prime time anime before to my knowledge...:hehee
And Orange-kun gets the crap he gets because he keeps yelling "ZEEEERRRROOOOOOO!"

I think those are the main two anyway :P

[Mider T]

But it's only because the people in the show keep treating him the way fans treat him. He was once a respectable "Jeremiah Gottwald"

Now when I mention "Jeremiah" in Code Geass. People are like wtf:oh

[Rokudaime]

Well..but then, what Nina did on Table-kun is injustice...I just cant force myself to forgive that...and about the Suzaku, he killed Camera-kun...

[Oni]

Orange's single failure: And the fact he went banana's afterward everytime you'd say the triggerword 'Orange'

Nina/Table-kun affair: Now I’m very much pro-aristocracy (as an anti-egalitarian manifestation), but I detest every monarchy alive today. Nina is a typical example of the ignorant fool who just so loves the royal family out of some warm, fuzzy ‘oh look at how beautiful and nice those people are’ feeling. They’re just not logical, but they themselves believe they are without reason. Since I’m a 'Secessionist' in my country, one can imagine how she adds to the personal touch Code Geass gives me.

Euphimator: Naive and almost got away with it. She looked at the world through furry glasses. ("Why can't we all just be friends")

Suzufag's betrayal of Lelouch: Suzaku's betrayal of his entire frigging people!! He has done nothing whatsoever for the Japanese, despite his so called 'best intentions'

Shirley's breakdown: Meh, she's just annoying as a side-character.

Kallen's sexual tension: She's hot, period.

[Saruto]

Orange's single failure: And the fact he went banana's afterward everytime you'd say the triggerword 'Orange'

Nina/Table-kun affair: Now I’m very much pro-aristocracy (as an anti-egalitarian manifestation), but I detest every monarchy alive today. Nina is a typical example of the ignorant fool who just so loves the royal family out of some warm, fuzzy ‘oh look at how beautiful and nice those people are’ feeling. They’re just not logical, but they themselves believe they are without reason. Since I’m a 'Secessionist' in my country, one can imagine how she adds to the personal touch Code Geass gives me.

Euphimator: Naive and almost got away with it. She looked at the world through furry glasses. ("Why can't we all just be friends")

Suzufag's betrayal of Lelouch: Suzaku's betrayal of his entire frigging people!! He has done nothing whatsoever for the Japanese, despite his so called 'best intentions'

Shirley's breakdown: Meh, she's just annoying as a side-character.

Kallen's sexual tension: She's hot, period.

Oni supports the Rebellion IRL!? Secessionist eh?

[Oni]

Oni supports the Rebellion IRL!? Secessionist eh?

IRL? As in Ireland? Well I'm indeed a Secessionist (other ways to describe the same thing are: Nationalist and Seperatist) of a random European country, try to guess which one :P

[Saruto]

IRL? As in Ireland? Well I'm indeed a Secessionist (other ways to describe the same thing are: Nationalist and Seperatist) of a random European country, try to guess which one :P

IRL = In real life.

Scotland or Ireland I'd say.

[Oni]

IRL = In real life.

Scotland or Ireland I'd say.

Ah, well yeah I'm an active rebel in real life, though I'm located somewhere on the mainland so not one of those two. :nod

[Mider T]

Whoever compared Orange to a banana don't do it again:pek

Are you from Bulgaria, Oni?

[blazingshadow]

actually i think suzaku is doing the right thing even though he has to betray some of his principles to do it. he is indeed fighting against a whole empire by himself unlike lelouch who has ppl to help him fight.

even lelouch would have to forgive suzaku if he becomes the emperor since lelouch is the guy who always keep saying results always come first.

[Oni]

Whoever compared Orange to a banana don't do it again:pek

Are you from Bulgaria, Oni?

Nope, it isn't in a former communist country either, keep trying :P

actually i think suzaku is doing the right thing even though he has to betray some of his principles to do it. he is indeed fighting against a whole empire by himself unlike lelouch who has ppl to help him fight.

even lelouch would have to forgive suzaku if he becomes the emperor since lelouch is the guy who always keep saying results always come first.

Suzaku joins his enemy so he can change it from the inside. Has he done anything like that? He's like a democratically elected representative, talking about change and everything but doing nothing about it once he has te power to make a difference.

[Fleecy]

No offense, but I find most CG watchers to be too jumpy and intolerant. Never have I seen a mass of people jump up the instant a character makes a mistake and claim "OMG SUZUFAG!" or "NINA TABLE RAPIST!" It's very obvious where the line of love and hate divides and which characters are on which side.

Eternal Love (generally): Lelouch, C.C., Kallen
Eternal Hate (generally): Suzaku, Nina

Mix it up once in a while so I can at least speak intelligently with the fandom...

[Saruto]

No offense, but I find most CG watchers to be too jumpy and intolerant. Never have I seen a mass of people jump up the instant a character makes a mistake and claim "OMG SUZUFAG!" or "NINA TABLE RAPIST!" It's very obvious where the line of love and hate divides and which characters are on which side.

Eternal Love (generally): Lelouch, C.C., Kallen
Eternal Hate (generally): Suzaku, Nina

Mix it up once in a while so I can at least speak intelligently with the fandom...

Don't worry too much about it Fleecy, I hate Suzafag a little less thanks to you. :ohpek

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

actually i think suzaku is doing the right thing even though he has to betray some of his principles to do it. he is indeed fighting against a whole empire by himself unlike lelouch who has ppl to help him fight.

even lelouch would have to forgive suzaku if he becomes the emperor since lelouch is the guy who always keep saying results always come first.

One of the problems I'm having with all that is: Remember how in season one,
Suzaku was always rambling about how using others for your own goals is Wrong? Thus, by betraying and trading away his best friend to the emperor in exchange for a place in the KoR, isn't he doing basically the very same thing, using others for his own ends? Sure, I suppose it's nice to see him become a bit more "realistic" as such by doing it, but at the same time, it makes him a goddamn hypocrite, straying away from the moral code he for the whole season one preached so much and put so much value on... :notrust.

[Mider T]

I was really surprised....at first I thought people were going to hate Lelouch due to his methods and similarities to Light. And vice versa for Suzaku.

Oni, are you from Italy?

[Oni]

Nope :P Two hints this time:

More to the north and the seperatist movement I belong to is the third largest of Europe, right behind Scotland and Ireland, but it still doesn't receive as much international coverage as it should. :) (This is fun, lol)

[Fleecy]

One of the problems I'm having with all that is: Remember how in season one,
Suzaku was always rambling about how using others for your own goals is Wrong? Thus, by betraying and trading away his best friend to the emperor in exchange for a place in the KoR, isn't he doing basically the very same thing, using others for his own ends? Sure, I suppose it's nice to see him become a bit more "realistic" as such by doing it, but at the same time, it makes him a goddamn hypocrite, straying away from the moral code he for the whole season one preached so much and put so much value on... :notrust.

That's not the same, though it seems that way. Suzaku never "used" anyone, and I mean "used" in the context of "manipulated." He only turned in Zero, but he didn't deceive nor use him (plus he didn't capture him just to get a promotion; he already had that in mind before turning him over) at all despite betraying him. I don't think he's a hypocrite for that at all. What he was preaching about was not betrayal, but pulling strings on people as if they were puppets to do his bidding, which was what Zero was doing. Suzaku on the other hand is trying to achieve results without deception or controlling of others.

[Mider T]

I'm more into European history than the present, are you in Denmark Oni?

Let's talk about Code Geass Geography and history like the guys over at Animesuki

[Oni]

Well if you're into history then two more tips:

The country was formed in the 19th century and is south of Denmark. I guess that narrows it down to two options, which one do you think it is? :P

As for CG geopolitics, I say again: Historical Corporate Gramscism

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

I was really surprised....at first I thought people were going to hate Lelouch due to his methods and similarities to Light. And vice versa for Suzaku.

Never seen Deathnote, so it's not like I have any "Light" to compare him to in the first place in my head :P . I've heard enough about what Light was like to get a gist of what his character was apparently like through; someone who in the end came to believe too much in his own justice, believing that they justified any atrocities he commited, was it? Well, Lelouch isn't yet the same. Through it can't be ruled out that he may end up that way. And I do thinkt hat if you wage war on a tyrannic country and wants to win, you can't do it by being nice :notrust . And should the japanese gain their freedom thnaks to his actions, it's all well and good (of course, the biggest question may be what'll happen after that)....

[Mider T]

You've never watched Death Note? What the hell? Go watch it, quickly!

Oni, I'm guessing Germany out of Germany or Austria, even though you don't come off as German.

[Oni]

Almost there, just move a bit to the West :P

[Mider T]

Belgium? Luxembourg? Switzerland? Hell I don't know.

ON topic: Suzufag, discuss:zaru

[Oni]

Bingo, Belgium. I'm from the Dutch-speaking part called Flanders and according to some recent polls, the majority of Flanders is pro-independence. We've even been without a government for 9 months last year because of a communautarian crisis. When you look at the history of Belgium, there are many parallels with CG concerning things like discrimination, jacobinism, monarchism, imperialism etc.

Since I'm very active in the Flemish independence movement, CG has a really personal feel to it.

On topic: Suzaku should hurry to prove himself, otherwise he'll be the traitor I take him for! 'Kill Zero' is all he thinks of, what happened to 'help the Japanese'??

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

You've never watched Death Note? What the hell? Go watch it, quickly!

I think I'll pass :P . Someday, maybe...

On topic: Well, what can I say? In anime/manga, the characters usually becomes the focus of a lot of interest for the readers/watchers - sometimes making the characters even more discussed amongst the fans of than the story itself. Especially if it's a popular show. Thus people are quick to notice and comment on the failings and stuff like that of the characters of said anime/manga, which in th eend can become soem rather big debates :blink . Maybe we're all just taking things too seriously here in the end, but as long as we have fun, who cares? :P

[Fleecy]

On topic: Suzaku should hurry to prove himself, otherwise he'll be the traitor I take him for! 'Kill Zero' is all he thinks of, what happened to 'help the Japanese'??

He thinks killing Zero will help the Japanese in the long run (and of course further actions can be taken to help Japan after Zero is eliminated), so to him, he is accomplishing two goals at once.

[Oni]

He thinks killing Zero will help the Japanese in the long run (and of course further actions can be taken to help Japan after Zero is eliminated), so to him, he is accomplishing two goals at once.

So he'll just continue down that path, killing Zero, his knights, the Japanese nationalists, the Chinese... At this rate, he'll crush the entire Japanese soul before saving it. If I am first to commit genocide on the majority of a people, and then claim 'differentiation' will end, then that's because there aren't any left to differentiate anyway.

[Mider T]

Flanders eh....heard of it before but can't quite recall the context....

But seriously, DLK for sake of being informed in any anime discussion, go watch Death Note. It's guaranteed to be brought up in multiple references anywhere as a comparison. It's like a philosophy.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

So he'll just continue down that path, killing Zero, his knights, the Japanese nationalists, the Chinese... At this rate, he'll crush the entire Japanese soul before saving it. If I am first to commit genocide on the majority of a people, and then claim 'differentiation' will end, then that's because there aren't any left to differentiate anyway.

I rather think that it rather boils down to "at this rate, he'll help Brittania conquer and oppress the whole world and call that 'peace'", sorta...

[Amatsu]

nah even with the death note paralells unlike Light; Lelouch is the good guy. Suzaku's just an evil faggy bastard and Nina is Orange-kun Jr.

[~Shin~]

I've disliked Suzaku way before the betrayal so it's not like it's just one thing.

I never understood all the Nina hate. Yeah she jacked off. Big fucking deal.

Orange was just awesome.

Kallen is HOT.

I never had a problem with Shirley. Compared to most other CG girls, I thought she was much more realistic.

Never had a problem with Euphie either. She just wanted a happy resolution and was straight on her goals unlike Suzaku.

[Mider T]

It's not just the fact she masturbated, it's the fact that she did it with a table--Table-kun--to picture of Euphie--a girl she had just met--who she went lesbian for after saving her life.

All of that wasn't even necessary.

[Oni]

Flanders eh....heard of it before but can't quite recall the context....

Googling a little helps should you be interested. Flemish live up North, Walloon down South, Brussels lays in between. But let me entertain you: We currently have 7 parliaments and 6 governments for a population of a little over 10 million (which in itself is ridiculous but necessary to glue the country together). There are 3 official languages, Dutch and French being the main ones. The Dutch-speaking Flemish are always in a clash with the French-speaking Walloons. It took us 9 (!) months to form a government because our goals are completely opposite. A new state reform has to be realised by 21 of July, or else new elections are mandatory. But the Walloons are blocking every attempt.

As for previous oppression: Our language was forbidden in public, all funds were used for Wallonia, Flemish were required to pay extra taxes, you didn't get a trial if you didn't speak French, we could at best become army sergeants and so on. That was up until after World War I, a lot has changed since then, but we are still being oppressed in various, less explicit, ways. For example, the number of Walloon government clerks in the federal government is considerably higher than the number of Flemish, while we are twice as numerous. More government infrastructure is located in Wallonia as well, including over 70% of the army.

Oh, and last year on a manifestation in Brussels, a group I belonged to was ambushed by police purposely sent over from Wallonia. Had to take a lot of hits, one scolded 'sale flamin' and I was locked away for 8 friggin' hours without any supervision (= no water either)!

So here you have some facts and tidbits on 'The Rebellion' I belong to :P

And you thought US politics were exciting, lol :amuse

Going back on topic now:

It's not just the fact she masturbated, it's the fact that she did it with a table--Table-kun--to picture of Euphie--a girl she had just met--who she went lesbian for after saving her life.

All of that wasn't even necessary.

The artists obviously wanted to point something out to us. If it was true love, Nina would have cried, been depressed etc. Instead she ********* on the picture of a recently deceased (!) and pulled the berserk face.

[Amatsu]

Not to mention Nina is a dirty lesbian racist slut. Heck I'd even like to see Shirley kick Nina's ass.

[~Shin~]

It's not just the fact she masturbated, it's the fact that she did it with a table--Table-kun--to picture of Euphie--a girl she had just met--who she went lesbian for after saving her life.

All of that wasn't even necessary.

And I still don't see the big deal.

IRL people jack off to nude pics of women they don't even know. That doesn't mean I'm going to hate them with a raging passion for it.

[Mider T]

In real life, people don't get lesbian crushes on a inept princess' one minute of half-baked fame right after meeting them and then proceed to pleasure themselves on a government owned furniture in the nightime.

If you know someone like that, then hats off to you:zaru

[Oni]

If you know someone like that, then hats off to you:zaru

Hardcore cosplay! :nuts

Reeeaaallllyyyy hardcore cosplay...

[~Shin~]

Wait, you think FAPPING to a fucking picture on the internet of some random whore isn't as bad as fapping to a picture of a girl using a table?

Let's face it, it doesn't really matter how they're done. When it comes down to it, it's all the same thing. People just seem to hate her because she did it much more openly to a bigger audience (us) than the natural fapper.

[Amatsu]

Again she's a racist psycho bitch even with her table fetish.. So she deserves death.

[Oni]

Wait, you think FAPPING to a fucking picture on the internet of some random whore isn't as bad as fapping to a picture of a girl using a table?

Let's face it, it doesn't really matter how they're done. When it comes down to it, it's all the same thing. People just seem to hate her because she did it much more openly to a bigger audience (us) than the natural fapper.

It was all in an emotional state. When you jack off behind your PC, then that's because you have an excess of hormones. That's not the case here, especially considering this is an unprecedented occurance in any anime.

You can't take the ******** part seperate from the surrounding conditions. Not to mention, it wasn't a picture of Hime-Sama in a bikini or anything. This was pure obsession, like a stalker who **** when smelling his/her obsession's socks.

Again she's a racist psycho bitch even with her table fetish.. So she deserves death.

LMAO we get it already :P

[Mider T]

Well first off I don't fap at all.

And 2nd off, I can't believe you're trying to compare Nina, Nina for god's sake, to anybody.

[Amatsu]

It was all in an emotional state. When you jack off behind your PC, then that's because you have an excess of hormones. That's not the case here, especially considering this is an unprecedented occurance in any anime.

You can't take the ******** part seperate from the surrounding conditions. Not to mention, it wasn't a picture of Hime-Sama in a bikini or anything. This was pure obsession, like a stalker who **** when smelling his/her obsession's socks.



LMAO we get it already :P

alright sorry... it's just that some people just don't understand how we Nina haters roll you know?

[Sunuvmann]

Orange's single failure: And the fact he went banana's afterward everytime you'd say the triggerword 'Orange'

Nina/Table-kun affair: Now I’m very much pro-aristocracy (as an anti-egalitarian manifestation), but I detest every monarchy alive today. Nina is a typical example of the ignorant fool who just so loves the royal family out of some warm, fuzzy ‘oh look at how beautiful and nice those people are’ feeling. They’re just not logical, but they themselves believe they are without reason. Since I’m a 'Secessionist' in my country, one can imagine how she adds to the personal touch Code Geass gives me.

Euphimator: Naive and almost got away with it. She looked at the world through furry glasses. ("Why can't we all just be friends")

Suzufag's betrayal of Lelouch: Suzaku's betrayal of his entire frigging people!! He has done nothing whatsoever for the Japanese, despite his so called 'best intentions'

Shirley's breakdown: Meh, she's just annoying as a side-character.

Kallen's sexual tension: She's hot, period.
Qft.

When people in CG fuck up, they fuck up big.

[Mider T]

So Shirley being "annoying" is fucking up big?

[~Shin~]

It was all in an emotional state. When you jack off behind your PC, then that's because you have an excess of hormones. That's not the case here, especially considering this is an unprecedented occurance in any anime.

Hentai has a lot of that. :zaru

You can't take the ******** part seperate from the surrounding conditions. Not to mention, it wasn't a picture of Hime-Sama in a bikini or anything. This was pure obsession, like a stalker who **** when smelling his/her obsession's socks.

And again please tell me the difference between fapping to some random whore on the internet and Nina's case? Hormones or not it's the same fundamental concept.

Also let me say that in no way am I saying that I like Nina or I think she's right or anything. But I don't see the reason for the strong hate since this isn't like some rare occurrence.

Well first off I don't fap at all.

That's good then.

And 2nd off, I can't believe you're trying to compare Nina, Nina for god's sake, to anybody.

You haven't given me any reason not to.

For god's sake, she's also human. Yeah she jerked off. Some other people in this show have done way worse like murder and they don't get any hate for it.

And lol wasn't the purpose of your thread meant to challenge the people who were too obstinate and stubborn? Your actions seem to be contradictory to that.

[Shiraishi]

Well Euphie massacring a whole arena of innocent people isn't really a little thing.

[Mider T]

^It is when you consider that she was being controlled and tried to fight it.

@ Shin: No, I'm still on track. The purpose of the thread was to question how fans Could not let heroes who had one slip up redemn themselves. Nina did something that simply cannot be lived down when she was already unlikeable, at the rate she's doing things in the series she might end up dead.

[Sunuvmann]

So Shirley being "annoying" is fucking up big?
Forgot about Shirley. I like her. :( She's a good character and that stuff with Lelouch geassing the memories from her was one of the best dramatic scenes in the series.

[Shiraishi]

^It is when you consider that she was being controlled and tried to fight it.

@ Shin: No, I'm still on track. The purpose of the thread was to question how fans Could not let heroes who had one slip up redemn themselves. Nina did something that simply cannot be lived down when she was already unlikeable, at the rate she's doing things in the series she might end up dead.

So?

I'm not going to forget that scene? Yeah, she was being controlled. Still doesn't mean I liked her (I did somewhat).

She was really naive.

[Amatsu]

So Shirley being "annoying" is fucking up big?

Shirley would be cool if she joined the black knights and fucked some shit up the way Kallen does. I mean heck at least then Zero would have two bitches at his beck and call. :laugh

[Oni]

Hentai has a lot of that. :zaru



And again please tell me the difference between fapping to some random whore on the internet and Nina's case? Hormones or not it's the same fundamental concept.

Also let me say that in no way am I saying that I like Nina or I think she's right or anything. But I don't see the reason for the strong hate since this isn't like some rare occurrence.



That's good then.



You haven't given me any reason not to.

For god's sake, she's also human. Yeah she jerked off. Some other people in this show have done way worse like murder and they don't get any hate for it.

And lol wasn't the purpose of your thread meant to challenge the people who were too obstinate and stubborn? Your actions seem to be contradictory to that.

1. Hentai is a different class, do not compare it to anime in general. Anime never shows such acts, the fact CG did should tell you something more than what you state here. Get the message please, they made it this explicitly on purpose.
2. There is a big difference between a 'fapper' (sic) and Nina. When a general sexual lust manifests, one can dispose of it by either watching or performing sexual acts. However, it is not like Nina had to get her rocks off. She just became obsessed FIRST and THEN she manifested that obsession in a perverted sexual act. There was nothing sexual about the princess, Nina created her own reality for this condition to be fulfilled. Because it was obsession-induced and manifested in perversion, it is a big difference with a hormones-induced lust.
3. All characters in CG are relative. An argument like murder is worse than fetish is not relevant at all.

I attack Nina because she has a psychotic obsession with the royalty. That's my fundamental argument, all else originates from this.

EDIT
Good analogy: Nina her behaviour is like a pyromaniac cumming in the bushes while watching an innocent's house burn down. You now understand?

[Amatsu]

I wouldn't be surprised if Nina is so psychotic that she goes around killing innocent elevens for no reason.

[blazingshadow]

Suzaku joins his enemy so he can change it from the inside. Has he done anything like that?he was helping euphie until zero turned her into a crazed murderer. every other thing he does is undone by zero. that is why he has to stop him before he can change things.

he wanted to be the role model for the japanese ppl but they chose zero instead so there is little for him to do other than go up the ranks and take zero out (yet again) and hopefully gain enough influence to bring japan to it's former glory and eventually turn the empire into something more pleasant for everyone.

he turned lelouch to the empire but then again it was lelouch who killed euphie after forcing her to kill japanese. can't blame him for being angry, heck he showed self control since he was really planning on killing him and turning into another orange-kun

the author clearly has shown that both suzaku and zero are 2 sides of the same coin and that neither one is the true correct path nor the wrong path to making things better

[Amatsu]

he was helping euphie until zero turned her into a crazed murderer. every other thing he does is undone by zero. that is why he has to stop him before he can change things.

he wanted to be the role model for the japanese ppl but they chose zero instead so there is little for him to do other than go up the ranks and take zero out (yet again) and hopefully gain enough influence to bring japan to it's former glory and eventually turn the empire into something more pleasant for everyone.

he turned lelouch to the empire but then again it was lelouch who killed euphie after forcing her to kill japanese. can't blame him for being angry, heck he showed self control since he was really planning on killing him and turning into another orange-kun

the author clearly has shown that both suzaku and zero are 2 sides of the same coin and that neither one is the true correct path nor the wrong path to making things better

Lelouch didn't thave a choice. He had to kill her. He didn't want to kill Euphie either he loved her after all... Suzaku though just plain wanted revenge and proved that all he cares about is himself.

It seems a lot of people misunderstand Lelouch. Lelouch may have the "wrong" ideas of how to do things but he's still a good person at heart. Suzaku is selfish and only cares about what benefits him.

[blazingshadow]

Lelouch didn't thave a choice. He had to kill her. He didn't want to kill Euphie either he loved her after all... Suzaku though just plain wanted revenge and proved that all he cares about is himself.all suzaku knew was that zero manipulated her with geass and then killed her, revenge is understandeable if you see things from his point of view

[Amatsu]

all suzaku knew was that zero manipulated her with geass and then killed her, revenge is understandeable if you see things from his point of view

yeah well it's not like he let Lelouch explain himself either. Especially since the whole thing was an accident.

[blazingshadow]

what is to explain? when he figured that zero was lelouch he should have been even more angry. he knew lelouch was euphie's brother yet he was the one who killed her. there is no way for him to make sense out of it other than lelouch is a bastard who deserves whatever punishment he got.

[Wesley]

yeah well it's not like he let Lelouch explain himself either. Especially since the whole thing was an accident.

Why should it matter if it was an "accident" or not? He forced a young woman using some mystical eye-hax that he used without question to murder hundreds of people in cold blood just before killing her himself. If he had any concience at all, he wouldn't have used his evil eye and started his stupid ass "rebellion" in the first place.

Him and his damn ego are reason enough to hate and condemn him to death.

[Amatsu]

Why should it matter if it was an "accident" or not? He forced a young woman using some mystical eye-hax that he used without question to murder hundreds of people in cold blood just before killing her himself. If he had any concience at all, he wouldn't have used his evil eye and started his stupid ass "rebellion" in the first place.

Him and his damn ego are reason enough to hate and condemn him to death.

He didn't force her. He jokingly said that. He didn't mean to geass her.

Heck Lelouch even conceded to Euphie.

[Wesley]

He didn't force her. He jokingly said that. He didn't mean to geass her.

Heck Lelouch even conceded to Euphie.

And if he'd kicked her corpse as opposed to being emo afterwards, would you still be defending the "accident"?

[Batman]

Why I hate specific Code Geass characters:

Nina: I don't hate her for masturbating on a table to a picture of Euphie. If anything that made me like her more. What I can't stand is the blind eyed ignorance/borderline fear of the Japaneses. Despite that fact that I don't know (and will probably never know) her influences, familial mainly, its irritating for a person to see a person spend their entire life in a bubble and break down into hysterics based upon their own suppositions about a certain group of people. While there was her initial fear when Suzaku joined the class, and eventually the student council, it was never reconciled. Despite it being a classic case of potential for positive understanding that an entire group of people cannot be judged by anyone's assumptions, she never came to terms that not all Japaneses people are scary. Though I'm aware of the extenuating circumstances, including their field trip where they were taken hostage, all of that time in the Britannia controlled school, etc., but despite the new developments of potential for understanding, she chooses to remain woefully ignorant. Instead she focuses her attention on her wuv for euphie to the point where she has to be taken out by security. Lawls. Which I have to say, I enjoyed watching.

Suzaku: He's too black and white. There are no subtleties with this kid. Everything is one way or the other, yet he chooses to ignore his own hypocrisies. He explicitly stated that the ends never justifying the means, yet he decides to use his friend to better advance his own career, which seems to have degenerated into a kind of Zero assassination exposition. That being said, he wasn't as annoying in R1, he just wasn't in my characters that I liked list, but in season 2 or actually I take some of it back, post Euphie's death was when he went over the wagon. I say that all of his "I'm going to change britannia" rants are now just an excuse for him to avenge his first love. Plus he's incapable of seeing the positives of revolution under the right leader, and avoids the fact that right and wrong are always going to be socially subjective.

Shirley: I don't hate Shirley, I like her obsessive nature. It just sucks to be her sometimes.

Orange: He reminds me of HAMMER!!!!! from s.Cry.ed Oh, I don't hate him either.

[Amatsu]

And if he'd kicked her corpse as opposed to being emo afterwards, would you still be defending the "accident"?

why would he kick her corpse in the first place?

[Saiko]

Lol ? Who hates Orange-kun ?

[Shiraishi]

Anyone who hates Orange-kun hates him for his internet popularity, or that he is somewhat a tad bit of comedic relief in some parts; but mostly, especially at the end, Robo Orange was fucking Godly.

He is a Zero killing machine.

He just won't die.

He continues to fight.

...continues to fight.

[Saiko]

Anyone who hates Orange-kun hates him for his internet popularity, or that he is somewhat a tad bit of comedic relief in some parts; but mostly, especially at the end, Robo Orange was fucking Godly.

He is a Zero killing machine.

He just won't die.

He continues to fight.

...continues to fight.

just :lmao

[Amatsu]

Anyone who hates Orange-kun hates him for his internet popularity, or that he is somewhat a tad bit of comedic relief in some parts; but mostly, especially at the end, Robo Orange was fucking Godly.

He is a Zero killing machine.

He just won't die.

He continues to fight.

...continues to fight.

I don't hate orange-kun. I'm just annoyed that he kept coming back to life every time he got killed. I mean come on how many times does the guy need to get blown up before he stays dead?

[Oni]

he was helping euphie until zero turned her into a crazed murderer. every other thing he does is undone by zero. that is why he has to stop him before he can change things.

he wanted to be the role model for the japanese ppl but they chose zero instead so there is little for him to do other than go up the ranks and take zero out (yet again) and hopefully gain enough influence to bring japan to it's former glory and eventually turn the empire into something more pleasant for everyone.

he turned lelouch to the empire but then again it was lelouch who killed euphie after forcing her to kill japanese. can't blame him for being angry, heck he showed self control since he was really planning on killing him and turning into another orange-kun

the author clearly has shown that both suzaku and zero are 2 sides of the same coin and that neither one is the true correct path nor the wrong path to making things better

So what about him doing something about the discrimination against Japanese while he's waiting to kill Zero? He lets himself be led to the highest ranks and be used for killing Zero, nothing else.

Imagine he would come up to Lelouch with a gun and shoot him in the head. Next, he'll go on national TV: "Hi people, I shot Zero yet again but don't worry, I'll take care of you now, all will be alright."

I don't believe such a thing will be received very well.

And if he'd kicked her corpse as opposed to being emo afterwards, would you still be defending the "accident"?

Dude, he was definitely heart-struck!

Lol ? Who hates Orange-kun ?

Lol, I more or less pity the poor guy, he didn't deserve all that. :P

[Felix]

I don't hate orange-kun. I'm just annoyed that he kept coming back to life every time he got killed. I mean come on how many times does the guy need to get blown up before he stays dead?

Reminds me of Orochimaru
Which is a plus in my book for Orange

[Wesley]

why would he kick her corpse in the first place?

I'm saying you're giving him a pass for a terrible thing he was one hundred percent responsible for having happened, all because he was :cry afterwards. If it was an "accident", and he had an entirely different attitude to what happened, you wouldn't be excusing him.

[Penance]

Funny thing is, if the Rebellion was won that night, and Euphie's death was for nothing, he'd probably (and if he does succeed, he still might) turn into...Suzaku...

[Shiraishi]

Orange-kun has only come back twice or so now.

When he comes back 10 times like Naraku in Inuyasha, we can complain.

[Wesley]

Orange-kun has only come back twice or so now.

When he comes back 10 times like Naraku in Inuyasha, we can complain.

Naraku never died once. He'd be defeated and run away and that only happened a couple times. Naraku's big schit was never allowing a decisive battle to happen until he was absolutely confident he could win, although that's changed just recently in the manga and he simply doesn't care what happens anymore, only that he'll fight it out with Inuyasha and company to whatever conclusion.

[Shiraishi]

Yeah, so that makes him totally hated and despised.

He's the reason and started hating Inuyasha.

[Fleecy]

Yeah, so that makes him totally hated and despised.

He's the reason and started hating Inuyasha.

Really? Kagome is the reason I started hating Inuyasha, along with Inuyasha himself. :lmao

But unlike Naraku or Elder Toguro from Yu Yu Hakusho, Jeremiah is rather commendable or, conversely, pitiful in the sense that he's fallen so far from his original position.

[Saruto]

Why the fuck are we talking about Inuyasha?

[Wesley]

Why the fuck are we talking about Inuyasha?

People love to hate it.

[Saruto]

People love to hate it.

Because the show is like a never-ending cycle of fail.

[Prince Leon]

Why should it matter if it was an "accident" or not? He forced a young woman using some mystical eye-hax that he used without question to murder hundreds of people in cold blood just before killing her himself. If he had any concience at all, he wouldn't have used his evil eye and started his stupid ass "rebellion" in the first place.

Him and his damn ego are reason enough to hate and condemn him to death.

I'm saying you're giving him a pass for a terrible thing he was one hundred percent responsible for having happened, all because he was :cry afterwards. If it was an "accident", and he had an entirely different attitude to what happened, you wouldn't be excusing him.

You don't even watch the show to understand what is going on among the characters or the story. Reading spoilers and the comments of others about an episode isn't enough to argue with anyone who is watching the show.

The fact of the matter is, the Euphie incident was an accident, not an "accident". You would know that if you watched the show.

As for Lelouch and his reasons for doing what he's done so far, well, it goes without saying that you would have to have been watching from episode 1 up till now. Of course, you haven't done that so you're just going off of unsubstantiated character and series hate here from what you've read.

[Amatsu]

Well it's like Orange-kun keeps going out with a bang only to come back to life. I mean he's basically turned into a joke character meant for fanservice. It just sort of ruins the impact of him dying you know?

[Shiraishi]

Yeah, but he is so epic when he comes back.

And he surely was a good threat last year at the end.

[Oni]

Well it's like Orange-kun keeps going out with a bang only to come back to life. I mean he's basically turned into a joke character meant for fanservice. It just sort of ruins the impact of him dying you know?

Actually, both Orange and Nina are just fanservice to some extent. They represent certain character types so that gives them some depth, but their role is minimal, aside from small and irritating intrusions.

[Wesley]

You don't even watch the show to understand what is going on among the characters or the story. Reading spoilers and the comments of others about an episode isn't enough to argue with anyone who is watching the show.

The fact of the matter is, the Euphie incident was an accident, not an "accident". You would know that if you watched the show.

As for Lelouch and his reasons for doing what he's done so far, well, it goes without saying that you would have to have been watching from episode 1 up till now. Of course, you haven't done that so you're just going off of unsubstantiated character and series hate here from what you've read.

If I want to argue without first-hand knowledge, that's a risk I have to be willing to take. Surely Leon can't say he's never argued without first having comphrensive knowledge on a subject. Besides, it's kind of fun to see how far I can get on bullshit and heresy before someone notices and calls me on it. :P

And I really doubt that. If what I've heard regarding the incident, that his geass suddenly flicked on just as he made a tasteless joke, I would still refer to it as an "accident", because one; he shouldn't be using his mind-hax in the first place. Even torture and brainwashing are lesser evils. And two; the circumstances, as far as I know, were too coincidental for it to be have been a real accident, and he apparently had no indecision making the most of the carnage he'd wrought (of course that's why everyone loves him).

As for his reasons, I've heard this and that, have some vague recollection of what might be considered the plight of the 11s from the one episode I did watch, but you know between the horrible first impression his character gave me, the eye-hax, his age, his appearance, his ability, and his ambition, I don't really care what his reasons or his cause is. He's just out to satisfy his own ego as far as I'm concerned, and that wouldn't change even if I did watch the series, because there's only one way I could be convinced otherwise, and that's willful obscurity. Become a nobody and retire to the middle of nowhere where he could waste away til the end of his days.

[Mider T]

Orange-kun was originally slated to die in his fight againist Kallen, however his popularity made the creators reconsider and he was brought back in time for the finale.

[Amatsu]

Actually, both Orange and Nina are just fanservice to some extent. They represent certain character types so that gives them some depth, but their role is minimal, aside from small and irritating intrusions.

Yeah but I'd even prefer Orange-kun to that slut Nina and her table raping ways. Someone needs to shoot her with a bazooka.

[Corran]

Yeah but I'd even prefer Orange-kun to that slut Nina and her table raping ways. Someone needs to shoot her with a bazooka.

Wow you can't get over that table raping can you? :haha
Was your father a table? :hehee

[Amatsu]

Wow you can't get over that table raping can you? :haha
Was your father a table? :hehee

eh? I thought I didn't obsess over the table thing as much as most people.:huh

[Carly]

If I want to argue without first-hand knowledge, that's a risk I have to be willing to take. Surely Leon can't say he's never argued without first having comphrensive knowledge on a subject. Besides, it's kind of fun to see how far I can get on bullshit and heresy before someone notices and calls me on it. :P

And I really doubt that. If what I've heard regarding the incident, that his geass suddenly flicked on just as he made a tasteless joke, I would still refer to it as an "accident", because one; he shouldn't be using his mind-hax in the first place. Even torture and brainwashing are lesser evils. And two; the circumstances, as far as I know, were too coincidental for it to be have been a real accident, and he apparently had no indecision making the most of the carnage he'd wrought (of course that's why everyone loves him).

As for his reasons, I've heard this and that, have some vague recollection of what might be considered the plight of the 11s from the one episode I did watch, but you know between the horrible first impression his character gave me, the eye-hax, his age, his appearance, his ability, and his ambition, I don't really care what his reasons or his cause is. He's just out to satisfy his own ego as far as I'm concerned, and that wouldn't change even if I did watch the series, because there's only one way I could be convinced otherwise, and that's willful obscurity. Become a nobody and retire to the middle of nowhere where he could waste away til the end of his days.

Whats wrong with the series that you won't watch it?

You sat through that piece of shit, Dragonaut.

[Amatsu]

Whats wrong with the series that you won't watch it?

You sat through that piece of shit, Dragonaut.

I remember Wesley doing this with Higurashi and TTGL as well where all he did was bash and criticize certain aspects of it even though he hadn't watched any of it beforehand.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

I remember Wesley doing this with Higurashi and TTGL as well where all he did was bash and criticize certain aspects of it even though he hadn't watched any of it beforehand.

So he does things in reverse, sorta? The more he bashes an anime series, the more he's going to like it, and the more stubbornly he watches a series, the more he dislikes it? :laugh

[Amatsu]

So he does things in reverse, sorta? The more he bashes an anime series, the more he's going to like it, and the more stubbornly he watches a series, the more he dislikes it? :laugh

I don't even think he watches the anime's he bashes. I mean as far as I know he quit watching TTGL and he never even tried Higurashi but found reasons to claim that they sucked.

[Wesley]

I remember Wesley doing this with Higurashi and TTGL as well where all he did was bash and criticize certain aspects of it even though he hadn't watched any of it beforehand.

TTGL was...a very active thread about a series I used to like before the main character asserted his role by personally devouring pretty much everyone's, including mine, favorite character. So, I was pissed off, I had an audience, and I had some time on my hands. I made alot of people angry, but I think I made alot of people laugh too. I don't really know, but I managed to get away with it for a couple months.

Higurashi was due to SaiMoe 2007. Damn foreigners screwing the voting results like that, it was unforgiveable. The Rozen Maidens would be avenged! But I would be temp-banned for it. There won't be a repeat...so long as Horo kicks everyone's ass. -_-

I trolled Geass off and on during the first series. Not really with alot of vigor, even though I hated the first episode. I guess I had better things to do (or troll) at the time.

Right now I'm mostly just curious about how the new season is being recieved by people, but as I learn more about what happened last season, I'll make the odd comment and joke that only I would probably find funny.

I'll cut it out if I really end up bothering people though.

[Mider T]

Wow you can't get over that table raping can you? :haha
Was your father a table? :hehee

Now read your post Corran, then forget everything you know about CG and reread it again.

Think before you speak.

[Carly]

If Kallen saved my life i'd be fapping on my table too to a picture of her.

[RAGING BONER]

wait...people are getting on Nina's case cuz she fucked a table? wow, like none of you nerds ever masturbated before.

how about the fact that she's a psycho racist twat? lets hate her for that eh...

and Suzaku is just a cunt, pure and simple. He's a defeatist race traitor. He's like that black guy who sold out other black slaves trying to escape using the underground railroad, yes, he's THAT guy.

Orange-kun is awesome and Shirley just needs to get plowed, nothing wrong with these 2.

[Oni]

wait...people are getting on Nina's case cuz she fucked a table? wow, like none of you nerds ever masturbated before.

how about the fact that she's a psycho racist twat? lets hate her for that eh...

and Suzaku is just a cunt, pure and simple. He's a defeatist race traitor. He's like that black guy who sold out other black slaves trying to escape using the underground railroad, yes, he's THAT guy.

Orange-kun is awesome and Shirley just needs to get plowed, nothing wrong with these 2.

That post was rather pretentious...

[Seitoukaichou]

It just made a point XD ... a rather good point.

We hate Nina and Suzaku, not because of a "slip up" o_o" It's more of because suzaku's a damn hypocrite, as well as because of him many good people died. Nina is more of a crazy person with her xenophobic antics. But still that's a sign that they are well made characters, or else we wouldn't hate them so much.
And who hates Orange-kun o.o!?. He has become a legend and has more fans then all the side characters (heck everyone 'cept Kira&L XD) from Death Note together. His live is about irony. And his reappearance at the end made him even more pwnsome XD!

[Carly]

wait...people are getting on Nina's case cuz she fucked a table? wow, like none of you nerds ever masturbated before.

how about the fact that she's a psycho racist twat? lets hate her for that eh...

and Suzaku is just a cunt, pure and simple. He's a defeatist race traitor. He's like that black guy who sold out other black slaves trying to escape using the underground railroad, yes, he's THAT guy.

Orange-kun is awesome and Shirley just needs to get plowed, nothing wrong with these 2.

They think Nina is fucked up and hate her for masturbating on the table because she was pleasuring herself to a ordinary photo of the woman that saved her just recently. Her admiration for her went to the levels of "creepy shit" and she was doing it near poor Nunnaly too. lawlz.

If you was saved by some dude would you then go home and pleasure yourself to a photo of him you found in the newspaper?

[IchiTenshou]

mochiron ^^
I wont let my Kallen live anything down X3

[/root]

People get on Nina's case?

Please.

Nina is a legendary character. Not only for the table affair, but also the legendary facial expression when Euphie goes batshit insane and dies.

and the reason everyone talks about those two things when they talk about Nina is because, to be perfectly honest, they are the only two notable things she ever did.

[Wesley]

Didn't she build some kind of bomb?

[Lastier]

So please, let our characters gain back their dignity. Pride should be a trade for Britannians and JapaneseElevens.

Where is the fun in that?

[IchiTenshou]

Didn't she build some kind of bomb?

um ya in season 1
on her Knighto Mare :nod

[Wesley]

um ya in season 1
on her Knighto Mare :nod

So how come no one mentions, while the table incident and :argh are so infamous?

[Amatsu]

They think Nina is fucked up and hate her for masturbating on the table because she was pleasuring herself to a ordinary photo of the woman that saved her just recently. Her admiration for her went to the levels of "creepy shit" and she was doing it near poor Nunnaly too. lawlz.

If you was saved by some dude would you then go home and pleasure yourself to a photo of him you found in the newspaper?

Nina's so creepy she probably has a fetish for raping tables in front of blind girls.

[Mider T]

Nunally knew what was going on.

Nunally knows all:pek

[Amatsu]

I think after episode 3 it should be obvious that Lelouch cares about everyone and doesn't see them as just pawns. Well maybe he see's Rolo as one but for good reason.

[Wesley]

I think after episode 3 it should be obvious that Lelouch cares about everyone and doesn't see them as just pawns. Well maybe he see's Rolo as one but for good reason.

If he really cared, he wouldn't cause trouble in the first place. :notrust

[Amatsu]

If he really cared, he wouldn't cause trouble in the first place. :notrust

yeah it's not like those people didn't become loyal to him with their own free will or anything. At the beginning of season 1 Lelouch saw it as a game but he doesn't see it that way anymore.

and heck if Lelouch didn't care about anyone he wouldn't have fled the battle just to save Nunally last season. Not to mention that he wants to keep his friends at the school out of danger.

[Wesley]

yeah it's not like those people didn't become loyal to him with their own free will or anything. At the beginning of season 1 Lelouch saw it as a game but he doesn't see it that way anymore.

and heck if Lelouch didn't care about anyone he wouldn't have fled the battle just to save Nunally last season. Not to mention that he wants to keep his friends at the school out of danger.

Yet he kept right on going once it supposedly stopped being a game. And what a fucking patroit. Ditching a fight to save a family member. A crippled moe loli family member even. *cough* *cough*

[Ssj3_Goku]

^ Family bonds can be very strong. Would you let your loved one get hit by a car while you where playing a video game? ( if you knew it would happen).

[Wesley]

^ Family bonds can be very strong. Would you let your loved one get hit by a car while you where playing a video game? ( if you knew it would happen).

Of course not. I would however stake my family's lives on the line if I'm trying to lead my nation towards independence from a tyranical government. Just as the Founders did.

[Amatsu]

Of course not. I would however stake my family's lives on the line if I'm trying to lead my nation towards independence from a tyranical government. Just as the Founders did.

What would be the point of winning the fight if Nunally wasn't safe? After all Lelouch was fighting for HER not himself.

[Wesley]

What would be the point of winning the fight if Nunally wasn't safe? After all Lelouch was fighting for HER not himself.

He's involving a shit load of people supposedly for her sake. :notrust

He wants to have his cake and eat it too. Heaven forbid someone close to him die because of his little rebellion. He should just quit if his determination is really that weak. It'd be better for everyone.

[DarkLordOfKichiku]

He wants to have his cake and eat it too. Heaven forbid someone close to him die because of his little rebellion. He should just quit if his determination is really that weak. It'd be better for everyone.

Well, in a very real sense, Nunally is his reason for starting a rebellion in the first place. If she were to die, then his efforts would be all for nothing - he even says as much himself at some point. So while it perhaps wasn't the best thing to do to leave a battle in order to save her, considering that she's his reason for it all, it's the logical thing for him to do, otherwise his main reason to fight in the first place would be all but gone.

[uncanny_sama]

its a fucking anime forum

let the people bitch about the characters

at least well have something good to talk about
other then the bullshit kishimoto is serving us

[Wesley]

Well, in a very real sense, Nunally is his reason for starting a rebellion in the first place. If she were to die, then his efforts would be all for nothing - he even says as much himself at some point. So while it perhaps wasn't the best thing to do to leave a battle in order to save her, considering that she's his reason for it all, it's the logical thing for him to do, otherwise his main reason to fight in the first place would be all but gone.

He's no business fighting then.

[RAGING BONER]

Lelouch needs to cut the bullshit...fighting for Nunally? nigga please, stop lying. He's fighting for the throne of Brittania pure and simple...to do that he needs to kill off his rat bastard father and his pussy little siblings. Creating a happy fantasy world for Nunally is just a side effect of all that.

[Mider T]

Lelouch needs to cut the bullshit...fighting for Nunally? nigga please, stop lying. He's fighting for the throne of Brittania pure and simple...to do that he needs to kill off his rat bastard father and his pussy little siblings. Creating a happy fantasy world for Nunally is just a side effect of all that.

I think Eleven please would be more appropriate here.

[Oni]

Lelouch needs to cut the bullshit...fighting for Nunally? nigga please, stop lying. He's fighting for the throne of Brittania pure and simple...to do that he needs to kill off his rat bastard father and his pussy little siblings. Creating a happy fantasy world for Nunally is just a side effect of all that.

Now you're simply being insulting towards anyone fighting for his or her ideals.

[Amatsu]

Lelouch needs to cut the bullshit...fighting for Nunally? nigga please, stop lying. He's fighting for the throne of Brittania pure and simple...to do that he needs to kill off his rat bastard father and his pussy little siblings. Creating a happy fantasy world for Nunally is just a side effect of all that.

When did Lelouch ever care about the Brittanian throne?

[Carly]

its a fucking anime forum

let the people bitch about the characters

at least well have something good to talk about
other then the bullshit kishimoto is serving us

Leave Kishimoto alone, Its not his fault he's a mediocre writer.

[G@R-chan]

When did Lelouch ever care about the Brittanian throne?

Never, he wanna destroy Britannia, that's in contradiction with taking the throne.

He'll kill all his Imperial siblings to make Britannia collapse because there wont' be legit leaders anymore. Just imagine the chaos for Britannian society. :kukuku

To believe in Social Darwinism and think they're right to do bad things just because the Emperor says so. Good riddrance.

[Rokudaime]

When did Lelouch ever care about the Brittanian throne?

No....He just want to be Japanese Prime Minister:nuts

[Mider T]

Wonder what he'll done once in power...

And why do you all call Kishimoto a medocre writer? His manga hooks you.

[Rokudaime]

Wonder what he'll done once in power...

And why do you all call Kishimoto a medocre writer? His manga hooks you.

I dont know about you but I am really not interested with his manga anymore..I just didnt feel the excitement just like I used to be when I read the spoilers thread anymore...In fact, I hardly care about the chapter release as well..It basically take me 3 or 4 days to download the scanlation and read them..Sometime, I didnt even bother read it after I downloaded it....Kinda sad huh?:oh

[Mider T]

I disagree, I believe the manga is more exciting then ever now. What with finding the answers to questions from the beginning of the series, it's all coming together.

Even if I didn't like it, I couldn't give it up. It's just not in my nature.

[Rokudaime]

I disagree, I believe the manga is more exciting then ever now. What with finding the answers to questions from the beginning of the series, it's all coming together.

Even if I didn't like it, I couldn't give it up. It's just not in my nature.

I didnt give up the series..It just I dont really put Naruto in my top 10 list anymore..I just read it when I really free.

[Batman]

Kishi is a good writer. He just stopped trying for some reason.

Also I'll never let Kallen live down that bunny suit.:awesome

[Mider T]

Some good ol fashioned first episode fanservice huh?

[Jetstorm]

When the fuck did this table fapping happen? I only remember her fugly crying face after Euphie died.

I need links. :argh

[Pringer Lagann]

Episode 12, dood. I missed it the first time as well.

[Oni]

When the fuck did this table fapping happen? I only remember her fugly crying face after Euphie died.

I need links. :argh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezwhZC4R-eI

[Mider T]

Yeah I remember I had to go back and watch that because I didn't quite recall.

lol @ Oni posting Nina's fail and spreading her it.