Geass Power Discussion

[Shiraishi]

So right. We now know that four people in the show, so far, have got the power of Geass. We have our main character Lelouch; a side antagonist for a few episodes in the crazy Mao; you have the main antagonist who is the Emperor and Lelouch's father; and finally you have Lelouch's fake brother, ███, and super solider brother Rollo.

First off, we know that Lelouch and Mao both made contracts with C.C. Emperor is almost 100% to have gotten his from V.V; seeing as it makes perfect sense with the Nunally thing. Also put in the ED credits where V.V and the Emperor are together. Rollo, also, probably got it from V.V; but who knows? There could be a D.D out there or something.

The powers themselves:

Lelouch - Influence or take over body
Mao - Hear thoughts
Emperor - Change memories
Rollo - ? (I'm going with teleportation)

Lelouch had one eye; same with Rollo.

Mao and Emperor had both eyes with the Geass.

What are your thoughts on the Geass powers themselves?


Is Lelouch's one time limit a good thing?
What is Rollo's power?
Strongest Geass?
What other Geass power would you think could work?

[Sunuvmann]

Good thread Tyler.

Lelouch's is the most useful. One word and you've eliminated a person.

Furthermore it encompasses what the Emperor can do as you can order someone to forget and remember something else as true. Of course the emperor would be more thorough in doing so.

Lelouch's one time limit is rather good as it prevents him from being broken.

Rollo seemingly has the power of teleportation/stopping time. What I wonder though is how the hell he can get that to work for a mecha. And how that is even a Geass power. It doesn't make sense. All the other ones are manipulating the mind of others. It just doesn't fit in the Geass universe :argh

Only other one I could think of is the ability to see through the eyes of others that you Geass (like Mao but the in terms of perspective). And that when you have full Geass control you are able to spiritually inhabit their bodies like a mind puppet.

[Shiraishi]

I would like to see the power of seeing the future.

It's somewhat corny, but I would like to see that.

Maybe Rivalz? :LOS

[Six]

Was C.C.'s ability to show memories, considered a geass power? She used it twice on lelouch and once on Suzaku.

Lelouch:
Accidentally showed her own memories to lelouch on that cave.
Brought to him his true memories in R2.

Suzaku:
Showed him the time he killed his father.
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and IMO, same as above, Lelouch's geass is the most powerful(so far) as it can be used a huge variety of ways and is not as limited as the emperor's, mao's, or rollo's.

[Sunuvmann]

Not a Geass since she doesn't use her eyes. She uses her forehead. :LOS

[Marsala]

Suzaku has been said to be a potential Geass user; that's why he could sense C.C. in her KNF in episode 22 and why his physical abilities are so outrageous. If/when Suzaku fully awakens his power, it will probably be a strength/speed enhancing Geass that takes him to truly superhuman levels.

Rollo's Geass is the craziest so far. Time stop is almost unbeatable. It better have some heavy limits.

[Kunoichi no Kiri]

There was some interview with someone that stated that Suzaku does have a special power, but it isn't geass.

[Penance]

That would figure-there's the fact that he saw the 'Witch's Shadow', and not everyone can see that...

[Graham Aker]

What is Rollo's power?
Rollo - time stop

I've said this before. He did three things in a blink of an eye(attack Urabe, Kallen and get in front Zero). You can't do that with teleportation. Rollo stopped time, attacked Urabe and Kallen, then moved in front of Zero, then returned the flow of time. Furthermore, in ep. 3, he snatched away Lelouch' gun and held him at gun point from behind, something you can't do with teleportation.

Illusionary and mind affecting powers, I assume, needs eye contact just like Lelouch' Geass.

Strongest Geass?
Imo, Rollo'. Time stop, is hax, he can practically kill you and you wouldn't know it.

What other Geass power would you think could work?
Precognition

[Kunoichi no Kiri]

ZA WARUDO

[TWF]

Ledocuhe doesn't get Za Wurdo. He can't pick up Steamrollers. :zaru

[G@R-chan]

Rollo's geass is broken, it seems he doesn't have a limit of how many times he could use it in a row, or the time he needs to wait for another execution seems really short.

Lelouch's geass is fine, he needs direct eye contact with the target, he can only use it once on each person, and it's permanently activated now.

I wish I wouldn't have Mao's geass, damn it's horrible to listen to all the thoughts in a 500m radius.

The emperor seems okay, he needs direct eye contact too with his target.

Rollo and Charles's geass aren't activated permanently, it seems they don't have overused it yet.

[xpto]

Rollo - Za Warudo.

I have a feeling the Emperor is the most h4x ever with ALL of the Geass powers with pretty much NO limitations. It'd suck if he could only change memories.

[Watchman]

*feels like an idiot for not knowing what Za Warudo is* :(

Lelouch's Geass is going to get some upgrades, I think. I agree that Charles is going to have more wtfpwnage than simply wiping memories, and Lelouch is going to need to be able to fight that.

[Marsala]

*feels like an idiot for not knowing what Za Warudo is* :(

Lelouch's Geass is going to get some upgrades, I think. I agree that Charles is going to have more wtfpwnage than simply wiping memories, and Lelouch is going to need to be able to fight that.

Encyclopedia Dramatica (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Za_warudo) is your friend. Actually, no, it definitely is not a friend, but it's useful in this single, solitary case.

[Graham Aker]

*feels like an idiot for not knowing what Za Warudo is* :(
Reference to Dio Brando, of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, who can also stop time. Probably the most popular time stopper to my knowledge.


I wonder if Charles being able to talk to spirits is a Geass power.

[Watchman]

Encyclopedia Dramatica (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Za_warudo) is your friend. Actually, no, it definitely is not a friend, but it's useful in this single, solitary case.

*Looks at link*

WTF!? A steamroller? That guy does seem pretty awesome, though. :P

[Poison Ivy]

Rollo - time stop

I've said this before. He did three things in a blink of an eye(attack Urabe, Kallen and get in front Zero). You can't do that with teleportation. Rollo stopped time, attacked Urabe and Kallen, then moved in front of Zero, then returned the flow of time. Furthermore, in ep. 3, he snatched away Lelouch' gun and held him at gun point from behind, something you can't do with teleportation.


I hadn't realy thoight too hard about this before, I';d always just assumed teleportation. But you have a good point, I'm pretty sure it must be time alteration now.

[Watchman]

Hmm... Rollo's seems too broken. I like my Geass with limitations. If he had the same ability, but it required eye contact, I'd be fine with it. As it is, it appears to be:


Spammable
Unlimited
Not require eye contact
Not have a downside like Mao's (Oh shit! Imagine Rollo living in frozen-time-verse! :omg)


EDIT:

Actually, upon further reading, Rollo's ability may be neither Time-stopping nor teleportation.

On a forum on FF.net I frequent, there is someone who claims Rollo's Geass is an illusionary one, rather than a time-stopper, and he puts some good reasons to it.

"something a mere illusion doesn't quite explain."

Not so. An illusion doesn't have to be limited to just vision. For geass, misleading all of the senses at once is no problem.

On the other hand, time stopping is a universe-level power, far exceeding the abilities of any other known geass. Moreover, why would he only use a power like time stopping in the presence of those he is going to use it against? Why not use it before they even see him at all, thus eliminating any chance they have of preparing themselves? The only explanation for that is that his power only stops time for people he can see the exact location of, which cannot be the case because radio conversations that happen in real time between people close to Rollo and people further away from him do not pause when he uses the ability.

[Rokudaime]

Lulu Geass kinda powerful IMO.

It basically Power Word Kill if Lulu decided to kill anyone...and I guess that is the best way to use Lulu Geass because of the one time limit since dead people dont revive.

[Locksmith]

I'd say the limits on Rollo's time stop are probably that he can only stop time for a limited amount like 10-20 seconds before re-entering the time stream and that he more than likely has to recharge for a bit before he can use the ability again.

[blazingshadow]

lelouch's geass is the strongest as well as the emperor's. they both have the ability to manipulate others however they like it. if it wasn't for CC, lelouch would never have changed back to zero. if rolo becomes a problem all zero needs is a chance to look him in the eye directly to make him his lackey. heck he should have done the same to mao instead of just making him shut up

[Felix]

I think Lelouch and the Emperor got the same power. Lelouch, if he gives the command, he can also rewrite people's memories.

[blazingshadow]

yeah but lelouch's has the side effect that you don't remember the time you were geassed because of brain damage

[Felix]

yeah but lelouch's has the side effect that you don't remember the time you were geassed because of brain damage

We can't say that for sure. C.C used her power to make Lelouch remember. What if it was possible for the other people as well?

[MarryGoRound]

Good thread Tyler.

Lelouch's is the most useful. One word and you've eliminated a person.


If Rollo's Geass enables him to stop time/teleports, I don't see how Lelouch is more useful , regarding the destruction of your oppononents.

I can see why it's overall the most useful, but honestly , if Rollo's Geass allows him to teleport/ stop time, his is by far the most dangerous in a life/death battle. But obviously Rollo's Geass wouldn't be that broken, and as you say it doesn't fit into the Geass pattern, so my statement is , in all honesty, pretty much void.

But I like to ramble.

[Goodfellow]

I'd say that Lulu and the emperor has had the most powerful abilities so far. It's hard to differentiate them (heck, they might even be the same power. Lulu has fucked up memories before so...). Rollo's ability, whatever it is (I wonder those eyes on his K-Mare's shoulders amplify the effect?), is powerful in a combat situation, that's true, but it lacks the utility of what the emperor and Lulu got.

You can stop time now, cheers. Now you got a few seconds to think about your persuasive argument! Or something. Anyway, good luck with that.

Meanwhile, Lulu can make you his bitch. Literally:zaru

[Shiraishi]

Yeah, Rollo also seems to be a tough match against the Geass power from the Lost Colors game.

If the fucker can teleport AROUND Lelouch's Geass, he is pretty much gonna own.

[TWF]

Lancelot > Geass.