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Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki
04-10-2008, 12:59 PM
Episode titles and summaries are now out for 55, 56, 57 and 58. See anime board for more info.

What's curious here is the following.

The anime has skipped the actual introduction of Hidan and Kakuzu and put filler characters there instead.

In episode 56, Tsunade gets word of an attack on a temple and she suspects akatsuki.
So basically. What is MENTIONED in ep 56 actually happens in chapter 314 and those events follow the incident in 312 and 313. This means that the anime will need to cover the events of 312, 313 and 314 in episode 55 and 56. However, the summaries do NOT indicate this. They speak only of Naruto's training, and about Naruto meeting up with Asuma.

There are a few possible scenarios, but i'm starting to fear they're totally going to mess this arc up.

the scorpion's tail
04-10-2008, 01:03 PM
Well yeah I see your point.

But their is still a Possibility that their is happening more then what's writen in the summary's.

So maybe the first Hidan & Kakuzu scene is in episode 55 or 56

Felix
04-10-2008, 01:06 PM
I just read the Manga chapters again. The Tsunada scene where she is informed of the Akatsuki movements, happens BEFORE H&K even show up.
So I guess it's all normal for now, but we have a relocation of events...

Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki
04-10-2008, 01:12 PM
I just read the Manga chapters again. The Tsunada scene where she is informed of the Akatsuki movements, happens BEFORE H&K even show up.
So I guess it's all normal for now, but we have a relocation of events...

You're wrong. That scene has already been covered in episode 54.

The scene that happens in episode 56 is when Tsunade is informed about the attack on the temple.

the scorpion's tail
04-10-2008, 01:15 PM
You're wrong. That scene has already been covered in episode 54.

The scene that happens in episode 56 is when Tsunade is informed about the attack on the temple.

Yeah that's true.

I've got no clue as to what happend to the Hidan and Kakuzu vs Nibi scene.

Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki
04-10-2008, 01:18 PM
Totally freaking random idea:

The filler characters are looking for something, right? Imagine if what they are looking for is inside the temple. After all, last time they were looking in some old ruins but didn't find it. Now they'll try at another place, and they'll find that temple because it has some connection to the ruins.

This means that the guys attacking the temple are filler characters. A short part of the arc will be dedicated to dealing with these filler characters. Once that is done, the scene with Yugito occurs and then the anime goes back to Canon again.

Edit: AH YES!

The latest summary basically confirms this. Naruto interrupts his training to go on some mission to the fire temple.

the scorpion's tail
04-10-2008, 01:22 PM
Yeah you could be right. But with Naruto's training progressing, what will happen? That means that Naruto's training is going to be streched out alot.

Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki
04-10-2008, 01:23 PM
Yeah you could be right. But with Naruto's training progressing, what will happen? That means that Naruto's training is going to be streched out alot.

Check the update. The training is interrupted.

.ProFound.
04-10-2008, 01:23 PM
lol i bet they wont cover the arc yall are talkin about for a long time...The anime has started to catch up to the manga again...This is gonna be a filler arc(or a bunch of mini arcs) with canon mixed in(like naruto training, and Tsunade getting word about Akatsuki) but i bet it wont ever actually show them untill the anime gets back on track again

SilverSerpent
04-10-2008, 01:24 PM
This is my theory about the upcomming fillers:

Hidan and Kakazu didnt attack the Fire Tempel for no reason. It looked like they had heard a rumour about it, and that a jinchiruki might have lived there. I think the anime team will use this to incorporate the fillers. If you look at the recent opening you see the boy with a "claw"-hand. He is dressed in a certain type of clothes, and it looks like he could be living there with the monks. He might not be a filler jinchiruki, but at least he has a special type of power.

My guess is that the 3 filler villians is after that boy and his power, and that they will attack the Fire Tempel before even Hidan and Kakazu is introduced. If he indeed is a jinchiruki, Tsunade might just assume that the filler villians are with Akatsuki. Asuma's team will be sent after them, and the anime team might use the chance to expand on Asuma's relationship with one of the monks. This way they can fit in plenty of filler without disturbing the manga storyline, and still introduce Hidan and Kakazu later on.

Edit: Spent to much time writing my post. Looks like i have to catch up with a new summary

the scorpion's tail
04-10-2008, 01:26 PM
Check the update. The training is interrupted.

Yeah I just noticed. :amuse I didn't see it at the time I made my previous post in this topic.

lol i bet they wont cover the arc yall are talkin about for a long time...The anime has started to catch up to the manga again...This is gonna be a filler arc(or a bunch of mini arcs) with canon mixed in(like naruto training, and Tsunade getting word about Akatsuki) but i bet it wont ever actually show them untill the anime gets back on track again

That's a Possibility. But I don't think this filler will be longer then 15 episodes.

Kojiro Ganryu Sasaki
04-10-2008, 01:27 PM
Psychosis, the anime is 80 fucking chapters behind the anime. Saying that the anime is close, is very inaccurate.

This is my theory about the upcomming fillers:

Hidan and Kakazu didnt attack the Fire Tempel for no reason. It looked like they had heard a rumour about it, and that a jinchiruki might have lived there. I think the anime team will use this to incorporate the fillers. If you look at the recent opening you see the boy with a "claw"-hand. He is dressed in a certain type of clothes, and it looks like he could be living there with the monks. He might not be a filler jinchiruki, but at least he has a special type of power.

My guess is that the 3 filler villians is after that boy and his power, and that they will attack the Fire Tempel before even Hidan and Kakazu is introduced. If he indeed is a jinchiruki, Tsunade might just assume that the filler villians are with Akatsuki. Asuma's team will be sent after them, and the anime team might use the chance to expand on Asuma's relationship with one of the monks. This way they can fit in plenty of filler without disturbing the manga storyline, and still introduce Hidan and Kakazu later on.

I think that is reasonable actually.

Felix
04-10-2008, 01:32 PM
Psychosis, the anime is 80 fucking chapters behind the anime. Saying that the anime is close, is very inaccurate.



I think that is reasonable actually.

I took a similar conclusion (Forgot about the Asuma-Chiriku connection) by reading the chapters a few minutes ago
I agree throughly

.ProFound.
04-10-2008, 01:32 PM
if they would quit doing 1 chapter per episode(unless they already did, like i said i havnet watched naruto in a while) then 80 chapters isnt really that much.

the scorpion's tail
04-10-2008, 01:37 PM
This is my theory about the upcomming fillers:

Hidan and Kakazu didnt attack the Fire Tempel for no reason. It looked like they had heard a rumour about it, and that a jinchiruki might have lived there. I think the anime team will use this to incorporate the fillers. If you look at the recent opening you see the boy with a "claw"-hand. He is dressed in a certain type of clothes, and it looks like he could be living there with the monks. He might not be a filler jinchiruki, but at least he has a special type of power.

My guess is that the 3 filler villians is after that boy and his power, and that they will attack the Fire Tempel before even Hidan and Kakazu is introduced. If he indeed is a jinchiruki, Tsunade might just assume that the filler villians are with Akatsuki. Asuma's team will be sent after them, and the anime team might use the chance to expand on Asuma's relationship with one of the monks. This way they can fit in plenty of filler without disturbing the manga storyline, and still introduce Hidan and Kakazu later on.

Edit: Spent to much time writing my post. Looks like i have to catch up with a new summary

Yeah this is also what I think. I predict Naruto going for some random reason on the misson with Team 10.

SilverSerpent
04-10-2008, 01:41 PM
After reading the latest summary it looks like the anime team found a good way to include filler without messing around with the cannon like they did in Bleach :(. I think i shall trusth them, and hope that they will be able to deliver an interesting arc. It might even save the later episodes from the slow pace.

Geg
04-10-2008, 02:06 PM
You're reading too far into it I think. There's nothing to suggest that Hidan and Kakuzu is behind it, especially since they're going to do a filler arc first. They're just going to have a little expansion on the role of the Temple and the 12 Shinobi guardsmen probably for around 10 episodes or so and then get into Hidan and Kakuzu.

•Sharingan Squid•
04-10-2008, 02:10 PM
Oh lawds fillers :argh

Ecclaed
04-10-2008, 04:27 PM
I was very scared for a moment there. As long as it's just an interruption of training, I don't care so long as filler does not replace canon events.

I would be really upset if the you know who's didn't get their killer entrace.


This means that the guys attacking the temple are filler characters. A short part of the arc will be dedicated to dealing with these filler characters. Once that is done, the scene with Yugito occurs and then the anime goes back to Canon again.

Edit: AH YES!

The latest summary basically confirms this. Naruto interrupts his training to go on some mission to the fire temple.


I'm betting that the filler will try to underline the relationship between Chiriku
and Asuma, and emphasize Asuma overall to garner more impact towards later events.

Still, I don't understand the lack of certain characters in the new opener.

durtycheese
04-10-2008, 04:38 PM
lol the anime is a joke, nothign but filler crap

MasamuneX7
04-10-2008, 05:18 PM
They will probably use this opportunity to show the "power" that Kakuzu mentioned the Fire Temple monks having. We never saw this power in the manga because Kakuzu and Hidan trashed them almost effortlessly.

The filler will likely develop this portion to hype up the Fire Temple and the 12 Guards by having them play a part in the defeat of the filler villains and or the filler "jinchuuriki" kid. When Kakuzu and Hidan hear a rumor of a "jinchuuriki" there, they'll be taking a stroll there and defeat all the monks by themselves, making their power seem much more frightening due to the amount of hype they got in the filler sections.

Who knows, perhaps the filler villains will shed some light onto the origin of Hidan, if they're from that same village he was, which was never stated in the manga.

Saf
04-10-2008, 05:32 PM
Yeah... but...

What if info on Hidan, Kakuzu, "Theurgical Enlightenment" (The power the monks used), the 12 Shinobi Guardsmen, and Jashin is forthcoming later in the manga?

The anime is taking a big risk covering what could show up later in the manga. And for those who say it's unlikely - remember when we thought Raiga was okay because the Seven Shinobi Gatana were unlikely to ever come up again?

Man, the anime should stick to random-ass filler, not trying to cover dangling plot bits that might come up later.

Kurumie Tsurashima
04-10-2008, 05:42 PM
I just hope we get more overall info on H n' K, period. i.e. past~

MasamuneX7
04-10-2008, 05:46 PM
Yeah... but...

What if info on Hidan, Kakuzu, "Theurgical Enlightenment" (The power the monks used), the 12 Shinobi Guardsmen, and Jashin is forthcoming later in the manga?

The anime is taking a big risk covering what could show up later in the manga. And for those who say it's unlikely - remember when we thought Raiga was okay because the Seven Shinobi Gatana were unlikely to ever come up again?

Man, the anime should stick to random-ass filler, not trying to cover dangling plot bits that might come up later.

There's no point in the manga going back and covering that info.

Creator
04-10-2008, 06:39 PM
God i hate fillers. :shakefist

But Tsunade's has a part in it, i dont mind. X3

Finn Mac Cool
04-10-2008, 09:32 PM
Yeah... but...

What if info on Hidan, Kakuzu, "Theurgical Enlightenment" (The power the monks used), the 12 Shinobi Guardsmen, and Jashin is forthcoming later in the manga?

The anime is taking a big risk covering what could show up later in the manga. And for those who say it's unlikely - remember when we thought Raiga was okay because the Seven Shinobi Gatana were unlikely to ever come up again?

Man, the anime should stick to random-ass filler, not trying to cover dangling plot bits that might come up later.

While Kishimoto isn't really involved in the anime, I imagine they could still send a memo or something saying:

Can the following characters/plot threads be expanded in the anime?
Hidan's religion
12 shinobi guardsmen
2-tailed jinchuriki

The whole process (not encounting time in the mail) would take up at most 10 minutes of people's time.

NECROFANTASIA
04-18-2008, 03:27 PM
Maybe we'll end up getting more of the Akatsuki Zombie pair? Like they'll get some parts in this filler as well as the whole arc they had in the manga?

I dunno, too weird.

Kusogitsune
04-18-2008, 11:29 PM
That arc was mostly crap anyway. Whether they add filler to it or change it or whatever, it doesn't matter. It'll still be crap.