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Empirejoao
03-13-2008, 06:06 PM
Sasuke, Naruto, and Itachi are bloodlusted.



No Edo Tensei- battle in the Sannin Battlefield.




Who takes this?

Esponer
03-13-2008, 06:08 PM
Nice fight: my instinct is that the ball is in Team Kakashi's court, as Sasuke can come close against either of his opponents and provides information, while he might also prove a good dispeller against Itachi's genjutsu. There's a lot of power, intelligence and tactical opportunities between Kakashi, Gai and Naruto, and Asuma (while disadvantaged for having shown little) can be helpful.

It's close, though, thanks to Itachi's best jutsu and how hard Orochimaru is to kill.

sworder
03-13-2008, 06:11 PM
Orochimaru can likely take Kakashi, Gai, and Asuma easily. He just needs to hold back Naruto till Itachi kills Sasuke. And since he's bloodlusted, it won't take long. From there on, rape.

Empirejoao
03-13-2008, 06:12 PM
Keep in mind that Itachi is bloodlusted; as well as Sasuke and Naruto.


Itachi has proven that Sasuke is really not a match for him when he is bloodlusted. In addition, in this fight he is not suffering for blindness.


Naruto being bloodlusted will cause him to make rash decisions that can easily be exploited by Orochimaru's sneak attacks.

IMMORTALx1
03-13-2008, 07:44 PM
I give it to Team Kakashi because and only because thers no Edo Tensai if there was now that would of been a good fight this is kinda unfair because of Kakashis MS Gai's 6th gate naruto's KN4 Sasuke bieng on Steroids from kishi and asuma just chilin.

hockeyguy33
03-13-2008, 07:51 PM
I'd say the outcome of the fight depends on Itachi's ability to control the kyuubi and whether or not Sasuke can counter Itachi's control. Orochimaru would dispatch Asuma and Gai in no time and I havn't seen any weapon in Kakashi's arsenal that puts him on a level playing field with Orochimaru. If Naruto is prevented from using the kyuubi, Itachi would make quick work of him. Sasuke would be able to hold off Itachi, but when Oro steps in along side Itachi this fight is over.

Vangelis
03-13-2008, 07:52 PM
Im pretty sure team Kakashi could win without Asuma really.

Esponer
03-13-2008, 07:52 PM
Orochimaru can likely take Kakashi, Gai, and Asuma easily. He just needs to hold back Naruto till Itachi kills Sasuke. And since he's bloodlusted, it won't take long. From there on, rape.
I used to think Kakashi and Gai could defeat Orochimaru, in a very close fight, thanks to working together. Might be a little too hard for them now, but they have more support than that. Sasuke can hold off Itachi for a long time – we're seeing him do that right now. So if those two do fight a one-on-one, that's Orochimaru against Kakashi, Gai, Asuma and Naruto. You really can't just hand wave the first three and then imagine Naruto has not moved a step before Orochimaru moves onto him.

Those four are definitely going to be dominating Orochimaru, at least if Orochimaru is too aggressive in style. He can't easily kill any one from those four if they work together in close coordination. Really though, both teams would work together, which makes it more complicated. (Sasuke shouldn't risk leaving the other four: it's in his interests to stay close to genjutsu debuff if need be. Itachi might switch target.)

littlebeep
03-13-2008, 07:53 PM
If Naruto gets to start transforming (bloodlusted!), Itachi and Oro will have a hard time stopping him without being killed. Even without Kyuubi, Naruto's Tajuu Kage Bunshin makes this hard for Itachi, and strength in numbers+Henge tricks does in Itachi. From then, I just don't see Oro beating everyone there, although we don't know which summons he can use. Gai+Kakashi alone could give him a run for his money.

Empirejoao
03-13-2008, 07:58 PM
Sasuke is powerless against Susasano (sp?)



When Itachi is really going for the kill, Sasuke is unable to stop. Itachi halted Ameratsu to preserve Sasuke's body. He did not use Tsukiyomi to its fullest extent.


What if Oro fought Sasuke while Itachi occupied the Jounin? I don't see ANY of them surviving Ameratsu; MAYBE Kakashi.


And Susanno is unbeatable from what I can see.

Esponer
03-13-2008, 08:01 PM
Naruto using Kyūbi chakra is a bad idea: he'll stop being useful to his team, and become a third team on his own. And on top of that, Itachi may be able to stop it with the Mangekyō. Pray for Naruto not to use Kyūbi unless you want Itachi and Orochimaru to have this easy. Team Kakashi can win without that sort of raw power, and do better without it.

Empirejoao: susano'o provides defence by the shield, it looks like. Shields defend in one direction at a time. Itachi's going to have trouble from lots of kage bunshin (a thousand, perhaps) and heavy-hitting support.

omg laser pew pew!
03-13-2008, 08:02 PM
Itachi using the Mangekyou on Naruto will more or less make him a easy target for everyone else

Vault
03-13-2008, 08:07 PM
gai solos and im not even joking BTW :pek

nothing can beat a fully gated gai nothing :pek susanno is useless if it cant keep up with the enemy and since gai is an expect of fighting a person who possesses sharingan he will fuck up itachi first then if he wants he can let the others handle orochi but he might decide to solo :vegetant

Esponer
03-13-2008, 09:12 PM
gai solos and im not even joking BTW
Does it really seem consistent to you that Gai could be able to defeat Itachi and Orochimaru at once? Surely that has to come across as a very strange thought indeed.

Pikachu
03-13-2008, 10:18 PM
Itachi solos if Sasuke is not there.

Cyphon
03-14-2008, 03:00 AM
Team Kakashi wins this... too many numbers and too much skill

FoxSpirit
03-14-2008, 06:50 AM
I have to agree that Team Kakashi wins due to the high amount of very skilled ninja on their team.

Pikachu
03-14-2008, 12:10 PM
Susanoo rapes.//

†_Camorra_†
03-14-2008, 12:19 PM
When Itachi would fight serious and not like he did with Sasuke, to immbolize him,he would crush them all ,with one or two moves.Sasuke had luck and Oro in his fight vs Itachi,plus Itachi wanted on purpose not to kill him just to take his eyes. Asuma and Naruto are to weak to face Orochimaru alone.

Agmaster
03-14-2008, 12:35 PM
Before these fucking eyes, villians are merely mediocre.

Truepotential
03-14-2008, 09:45 PM
Gai + Kakashi take Orochimaru.

Rest team up against Itachi.

Kieuseru
03-15-2008, 12:56 AM
Naruto and Sasuke working as a team could probably beat Itachi, while Gai, Kakashi, and Asuma could beat Orochimaru.

the box
03-15-2008, 01:26 AM
Sasuke is powerless against Susasano (sp?)



When Itachi is really going for the kill, Sasuke is unable to stop. Itachi halted Ameratsu to preserve Sasuke's body. He did not use Tsukiyomi to its fullest extent.


What if Oro fought Sasuke while Itachi occupied the Jounin? I don't see ANY of them surviving Ameratsu; MAYBE Kakashi.


And Susanno is unbeatable from what I can see.

itachis not blind therfor no sunnaso

Kieuseru
03-15-2008, 01:30 AM
itachis not blind therfor no sunnaso

Where was it stated that Itachi has to be blind to use Susanno?

best Kage ever
03-15-2008, 05:55 AM
Probably team Kakashi takes this

Kakashi said that with help of Naruto he can defeat Itachi
and if something can defeat Susanoo it is Kakashi's MS black hole jutsu- he will just suck it to another dimension with Itachi too

Sasuke with help of Asuma and Gai probably could take Orochimaru- but still hydra jutsu is a problem- Manda will probably stay at side with Oro so Sasuke wont summon him so only Naruto's Gamabunta can counter Yamata no jutsu

Ryuk
03-16-2008, 11:57 AM
Itachis team wins.

EquinoxF
03-16-2008, 12:48 PM
team kakashi wins simply because they outnumber the enemy

Pikachu
03-16-2008, 01:17 PM
Itachi uses susanoo and a bloodlusted Itachi= unbeatable. He will defeat each of his opponents in quick time.

GameGod
03-16-2008, 05:04 PM
Team Naruto, as I'll call them, will probably win. This is a mega fight with two very strong teams, but this is how I see it.

Sasuke vs. Itachi: Sasuke has beaten Itachi as of Chapter 393. Saying that Itachi's bloodlusted doesn't take away his blindness. He was bloodlusted in the fight, yet he couldn't do more than lightly poke Sasuke in the head in the end. But it would be wise for Kakashi, Gai, Asuma and everyone else to stay out of the way because of their inability to hurt or hinder Susanoo.

Naruto vs. Orochimaru: Naruto goes to KN4 to take this. Kakashi, Gai and Asuma leave the area, and KN4 obliterates everything.

If Orochimaru were, however, allowed Edo Tensai, the battle would be a bit more interesting. He could get the Third and Fourth Hokage and sacrifice the Third (the weaker) to kill KN4. However, KN4 would be too hard to get hold off, and probably 'kill' the Third Hokage again, and end up being sacrificed to the Fourth Hokage, leaving Orochimaru against Kakashi, Gai, and Asuma. If I were them, I wouldn't at that point bother with tactical moves; I'd just send Gai to the 8th Gate if possible and watch him rapestomp Orochimaru. More on that coming.
If Gai can go to the 6th Gate at maximum, I'm still pretty sure that repeated punches will break Orochimaru down too many times for him to keep regenerating. What would be a very bad idea for Gai would be to go for Asakujaku: The Morning Peacock, because although it does huge amounts of damage and will probably split Orochimaru into 360 parts, it is only one set of hits, and puts more strain on Gai than necessary, and will allow Orochimaru to regenerate from it as if it were only one set of hits. If Gai keeps nailing him, then when Gai finally is unable to take the strain, Orochimaru should be virtually out of chakra. At that point, Kakashi should be able to go to 1st Gate and use Omote Renge: Forward Lotus followed by as powerful a Raikiri as he can do and punch through Orochimaru's no longer self-regenerating body.
If Gai does go to the 8th Gate, he'll probably put so many holes in Orochimaru per milli-second that he'll stop regenerating before Gai even dies. Then, one more punch and bang. Down goes Oro. :zaru

Ico
03-16-2008, 05:13 PM
This is a really nice fight. I think that Team Kakashi could win this:kthumb

Pikachu
03-16-2008, 05:59 PM
If this is Sasuke w/o Orochimaru fusion then Itachi + Oro win.

Perestroika
03-17-2008, 03:36 AM
itachis not blind therfor no sunnaso

You got that from a bad translation. Itachi can use any MS jutsu, whenever he wants. All he says about Susanoo in relation to the other two is (to paraphrase liberally) "This is the 3rd jutsu born along with the others on that fateful night".

With that being said, I think Itachi and Orochimaru can take this.

Kakashi's MS is too slow and his aim is too bad. Orochimaru is too hard to kill. Sasuke is shit in front of a bloodlusted Itachi, with no possible deus ex machinas. In addition to that Naruto is very susceptible to Itachi's genjutsu and his MS could seal the Kyuubi away as well. Asuma is lol. Gai is no joke, of course, and he could pose a serious threat with 6-8 Gates. But Orochimaru's regenaritive powers are way too much of a promblem here, not to mention the his White Snake Final Form. And if someone is stupid enough to cut the White Snake, everyone gets paralyzed. Amaterasu can take out a few of them in one go. And Susanoo will nullify anything and everything the other team has.

Basically, Itachi and Orochimaru have several important advantages here.


He was bloodlusted in the fight, yet he couldn't do more than lightly poke Sasuke in the head in the end.

What fight were you reading?
Itachi was an idiot, who fucked around first with Tsukiyomi just to "show" Sasuke how he'd take his eyes. Then he had to be careful with Amaterasu so as to not damage Sasuke's head, in fact, he probably couldn't aim for most of Sasuke's upper body as he stopped the flames once only his lower body was gone.

Esponer
03-17-2008, 12:23 PM
Lucid Dreaming, do you really believe that Sasuke would appear "shit" in front of an Itachi not holding back? Itachi's best non-Mangekyō genjutsu did nothing, his tsukuyomi did nothing, his attempts at taijutsu and ninjutsu were generally surpassed, and Sasuke seemed to be in control of the situation against amaterasu. Susano'o is the one card Itachi could play to step above Sasuke's level, but with very powerful support on Sasuke's side I doubt Itachi will really find himself comfortably being the one choosing the pace of the fight.

If Itachi tries to focus on using genjutsu on Naruto, Sasuke will release him and Itachi will probably find he's wasted his time and put himself at an overall disadvantage.

GameGod
03-17-2008, 02:50 PM
What fight were you reading?
Itachi was an idiot, who fucked around first with Tsukiyomi just to "show" Sasuke how he'd take his eyes. Then he had to be careful with Amaterasu so as to not damage Sasuke's head, in fact, he probably couldn't aim for most of Sasuke's upper body as he stopped the flames once only his lower body was gone.

Itachi had a big wish for Sasuke's eyes. Too bad he looks pretty dead now. Susanoo was the only thing he had that could keep on Sasuke's level, and it drained his chakra and eyesight so quickly that it only took about ten minutes of using it to seemingly kill Itachi. Unless he can kill Sasuke in that amount of time (which I doubt; Susanoo's speed, agility, reflexes, etcetera aren't that high, so as long as Sasuke keeps out of his reach, he'll be fine), Itachi's a gonner against Sasuke, who, by the way, is also bloodlusted.

Taniko
03-17-2008, 03:07 PM
Itachi > Naruto&Sasuke
Orochimaru > Gai,Asuma,Kakashi

Itachi kills Sasuke with Amaterasu especially if Sasuke doesn't have the WhiteSnake power. Naruto wont be a problem for Itachi since Naruto has no defense against Tsukiyomi.

The three Jonin are no problem for Orochimaru either. Oro onehitkoes Asuma in a few seconds and Kakashi cant do shit against him. A few strong jutsus and its gameover for him.
Gai's attacks are useless against Oro due to his insane regen-abilities.

Itachi and Orochimaru win this fight without too much trouble.

GameGod
03-17-2008, 03:23 PM
Itachi > Naruto&Sasuke
Orochimaru > Gai,Asuma,Kakashi

Itachi kills Sasuke with Amaterasu especially if Sasuke doesn't have the WhiteSnake power. Naruto wont be a problem for Itachi since Naruto has no defense against Tsukiyomi.

The three Jonin are no problem for Orochimaru either. Oro onehitkoes Asuma in a few seconds and Kakashi cant do shit against him. A few strong jutsus and its gameover for him.
Gai's attacks are useless against Oro due to his insane regen-abilities.

Itachi and Orochimaru win this fight without too much trouble.

Itachi > Naruto & Sasuke? I'm sorry, but this doubled me up. Sasuke beat Itachi in their fight, and both were bloodlusted like both still are. Itachi can't touch him with anything but Susanoo, which will soon get him killed.
What's more, there's KN4. The unstoppable fury of power of the Kyuubi. He would make sure Sasuke had plenty of chakra while the two fought Itachi's only weapon, Susanoo. Both will have plenty of chakra by the time Itachi dies.

Orochimaru > Gai, Asuma and Kakashi?
This makes more sense, but in the end, Orochimaru is unlikely to win. Gai can open the 6th Gate and then pummel him into oblivion, draining his chakra as it tries to regenerate him. Once Gai is unable to keep up the assault, I'd place Orochimaru at 30% chakra maximum, with one or two lost limbs from Kakashi's implosion attacks. Now, the battle depends on which two limbs he lost. If it were his legs, then he can't move, so Asuma will destract his arms from the front, while Kakashi opens 1st Gate and uses Raikiri, and sticks it inside Orochimaru, splitting him into so many peices he's left with 2% chakra after Kakashi's Raikiri. He'll probably begin falling unconscious now, and Kakashi could implosion off his two arms and therefore nullify his jutsu. His remaining chakra would be spent sealing the blood, so he would be chakra-less. Asuma uses his bare hands and rips Orochimaru's head from his snaky body. Fight won.:zaru

MS81
03-17-2008, 06:36 PM
well this fight would be awesome if Asuma gives one of his blades to Naruto while Sasuke gives the kusanagi to Kakashi to fight Orochimaru to even the odds.:thumbs